It's not even murder at this point. It's a civic service.
@reubensemmanuel5926
Жыл бұрын
@JamesBuggemo On god. I make it a point to seek them out.
@killmonger5097
Жыл бұрын
David’s mom was basically a scav herself
@Jorogumojinx
Жыл бұрын
Lol I've been actively logging on and hunting down every scav since 2020 now. Still not tired of it.
@grahamdixon1699
Жыл бұрын
@@killmonger5097 Sure but there's a difference between scavenging and being a member of a group of scavs
@NikolaiManning
Жыл бұрын
I find it funny when fighting some Maelstrom gangers, they will sometimes say the lines "We're not ALL bad, ya' know!" as they are shooting at you.
@davhot4107
Жыл бұрын
I mean. They are trying to shoot you until death, not torture you. In their f*cked up moral compass that's a good thing.
@Lord_Maraptor
Жыл бұрын
I mean, its true in some sense. The ones we always go against are usually hostile.
@nickzukowski4106
11 ай бұрын
My favorite is "C'mon we can be friends".
@KrummyBrinkleJr.
11 ай бұрын
Wish there was an option to befriend the """"good ones"""" because I know some maelstrom are really just in a bad situation. Also I always want people shooting for me.
@davhot4107
11 ай бұрын
@@KrummyBrinkleJr. Dude imagine having a Maelsrtom girlfriend. 😨😨
@josejosefino7361
Жыл бұрын
I like that everyone agrees that Scavs are on a strict “see one-kill one” rule.
@ireallycantthinkofaname4726
11 ай бұрын
Yes
@Unapologeticweeb
9 ай бұрын
Scavs and maelstrom
@rokkfel4999
9 ай бұрын
@@Unapologeticweebmhm not even humans in my opinion
@rekninhison2345
8 ай бұрын
What are these scavs that you speak of do you mean all the corpses littering every single base operation they have in the city that would definitely not caused by me 😊
@marsacmosaic
8 ай бұрын
I felt the same way lmao
@nni7538
Жыл бұрын
You could include River Ward's opinion on 'which gang is the worst.' As a side note. The Scavs rivals Maelstrom according to River.
@maciejkukla9615
Жыл бұрын
He's a pig.
@wormspeaker
Жыл бұрын
Yeah, I think that the theme of the video is a little muddled. I think he's going for "worst gang to join" as his title says, but a lot of the script talks about how dangerous they are to other people in Night City and how strong the gang is overall. The most dangerous gangs to the average person in Night City is a very different list, and which gang would win in an all out war is another list again. I think this one is just supposed to be which one sucks the worst to join.
@martinjaramillo7446
Жыл бұрын
maybe he mean in terms of casualties, both those gangs would be the worst for the NCPD
@kettlecornman2220
Жыл бұрын
@@martinjaramillo7446poor NCPD imagine living there being a COP it would be an adrenaline rush for sure but def scary
@2ane
Жыл бұрын
id say the Scavs are just a way worse presence in Night City. With Maelstrom you know what you get and you know to just stay out of their way. Best avoid their territory and if you spot one they are easy to identify so go somewhere else. Scavs meanwhile hunt for people and run scams to find victims.
@ThirdEye-47
Жыл бұрын
its important to note that the street kid path heavily implies that you grew up with all valentinos and while you didnt join the gang officially youre from their neighborhood and can relate most to them. i like giving my street kid valentino tattoos especially the big v with a cross on your neck.
@akbarkhan656
Жыл бұрын
Doesn't mean shit, my v is a street kid and it was shoot to kill at Valentino alley, died a couple times when I was under levelled.
@ThirdEye-47
Жыл бұрын
@@akbarkhan656 i never said you couldnt/ didnt fight valentinos as a street kid, in fact most of the missions against valentinos are because they go against padre so he sends you to deal with them which reinforces what i said as hes the valentinos leader. next time try using some logic before you tell someone theyre wrong, the game is my proof for being right, if you disagree you mustve skipped through all the dialogue.
@kliffi96
Жыл бұрын
@@ThirdEye-47dude padre is not the leader of the Valentinos... It's open to interpretation as it should. You're free to choose if you and v like the Valentinos or not. The game on purpose doesn't tell you that you are gang related. Instead it gives you just enough so you could say you got a relation to the Valentinos if that's what you like. You grew up around them and your partner in crime is an ex member. Rest is open to interpretation as it should.
@juanmccoy3066
11 ай бұрын
Yeah Padre is not the "leader". In fact he's not even currently a member anymore. He's an ex priest from the hood who became a fixer.
@OrysB-po1fy
11 ай бұрын
@@juanmccoy3066He might not be a leader or member. But based on the mission where a Valentino rips off the Aldecados. If you insult Padre he can green light your ass and the rest of the Valentinos apparently won’t do anything to stop him. Padre tells V punishing them isn’t his job. So Padre apparently plans to pull up personally. So he clearly has no fear of the Valentinos knowing he killed one of them. Might as well call him El Padrino
@PosthumanHeresy
11 ай бұрын
The Mox are an extremely classical gang, the sort meant to be a community protection force in a lawless area. Not being expansionist and stuff is a pro tbh, because it means you're not getting involved in massive illegal economic ventures all the time and constantly bringing more risk to yourself.
@ouflag6799
9 ай бұрын
But can dudes join the vox i havent seen a male vox member
@stormtrooper1704
9 ай бұрын
@@ouflag6799I assume they can, since Dolls can be male too. If the stuff at Clouds didn't go to shit, I'm 100% sure that Tom would've joined The Mox.
@WhiteRose2002
9 ай бұрын
@@ouflag6799men can join the ranks of the Mox but they generally don’t because A) men are less likely to be driven to sex work than women B) most pornography is marketed towards straight men, however a lot of porn is marketed towards gay men so there are plenty of sex workers who make gay porn but not many straight men do it as their main source of income.
@jamieenoshima5147
8 ай бұрын
@@WhiteRose2002 It's not just SWers tho but described as social outcasts. So just throw in lgbt, autistic, generally ppl in those spaces. Already bordering a lot with being a SWer.
@jamieenoshima5147
8 ай бұрын
@@ouflag6799 It's not just SWers but described as "social outcasts". So intepreting that as lgbt, autistic, generally ppl in those spaces marginalised folk in small communities. Already bordering a lot with being a SWer as a lot of trans/lgb and disabled and neurodivergant ppl are sex workers
@Dithyrambos-h5e
11 ай бұрын
I think the most narratively interesting gang is the NCPD. You have very relatable characters and then you have their leashed cyberpsychos. They're the gang that convinced everyone they're legitimate and brazenly engage in the worst sorts of corruption, with any sort of redemption found only in the low-level true believers like River Ward.
@justinh9674
10 ай бұрын
You’re exaggerating. Sure like in any dystopian universe the police sucks ass but they most definitely help more then the gangs. They are corrupt and often look the other way but they won’t cut you up for parts or operate on you for fun. Also we meet a few good cops beside river. And lastly nobody ever complains for MaxTecs free help
@ThejollyFrenchman
8 ай бұрын
Some of the archived calls you find from the NCPD are disturbing - where the police high ups send their own people into gang ambushes, presumably because they weren't corrupt.
@GadgetsGearCoffee
6 ай бұрын
@@ThejollyFrenchman where did you find those calls? (spoiler free hopefully?)
@ThejollyFrenchman
6 ай бұрын
@@GadgetsGearCoffee Don't remember exactly. There's one in Kabuki - not far away from Wakako. There's a cop sitting on a chair who got tortured to death by the Tyger Claws. In Watson, in one of the factory areas you can find some cops who were ambushed by Maelstrom - along with messages from the police chief. The first message is to his officers, where they complain about not having backup while being sent into gang territory, and he threatens to fire them if they refuse to go. The second message is to the Maelstrom boss, negotiating a fee for the officers' assassination.
@anwa3237
4 ай бұрын
@@GadgetsGearCoffee If I recall correctly, there's one in a small parking lot near Megabuilding H8. Slightly to the southeast of its base I think. There's a small group of Tyger Claws and one or two dead guys on the ground.
@EricIsntSmart
Жыл бұрын
I liked maelstrom, especially DumDum, had no issues with working with them. Then i scanned Royce and Lars and noticed what they're wanted for.
@Xxsorafan
Жыл бұрын
What were they wanted for? I shot him in the face before I looked
@EricIsntSmart
Жыл бұрын
@@Xxsorafan Royce has multiple counts of r*pe, corpocide, homicide, forced cyberware instillation, that kinda stuff
@BebeSensei
Жыл бұрын
@@XxsorafanRoyce specifically was wanted for serial rape and sex trafficking, among lots of murder counts
@Xxsorafan
Жыл бұрын
@@BebeSensei okay I don’t feel bad that dum dum dies then at the expense of shooting Royce when prompted
@BebeSensei
Жыл бұрын
@@Xxsorafan yeah LOL Even when surrounded by bad people Royce managed to be worse
@emmanuelstalder6968
Жыл бұрын
When facing gangs, I have kind of a "moral code". Like, I don't execute downed gangers, and I don't specificaly try to kill them in a fight. I hold that code against 6th Street, the Animals, the Tyger Claws and the Valentinos. On the other hand, when fighting Scavs, Maelstromer or Wraith, I always shoot to kill, and finish off every surviving goon after a fight.
@finnvost9349
Жыл бұрын
I always avoid fighting Valentinos whenever I can 6th street, Animals and Tyger Claws I'm focused on retaliation and Scavs Maelstrom and Wraiths I kill on sight
@ZestyKatto
Жыл бұрын
i always leave one person alive on the ground when i fight gangs, in a roleplaying sense it's a "fuck you" to send a message to the rest of the gang as the remaining survivor would probably never be the same person again
@PobortzaPl
Жыл бұрын
At Kabuki Market one can overhear two people talking. Apparently, they're small vendors located there and one of them doesn't have the money to pay Tyger Claws tithe. The other says that selling anything, implants or even a body part, would be a wise move, because if Tyger Claws found one of the vendors lacking in payment to them they will execute every other vendor at the market. So for me Tyger Claws make 4th place on my "shoot on sight" list, right after Maelstrom, Scavs and Wraiths (these 3 are put by me in alphabetical order)
@PobortzaPl
Жыл бұрын
@finnvost9349 Main problem I have with 6th Street, that puts them higher on my "kill on sight" list than Animals and Valentinos, is that they're supposed to be anti corporate, while they quite gladly do the corpos bidding. Animals are for me just a bunch of mercenaries
@Ra1nRover
Жыл бұрын
Tyger Claws, Maelstrom, Scavs and Wraiths are the once who I kill the most.
@calvin10
Жыл бұрын
Valentinos combat theme is the best. Never knew combat could feel cool and chill af.
@Valkyrioneu
Жыл бұрын
Also the Valentinos ladies look best out of all the gangs :D
@asiblingproduction
Жыл бұрын
@@Valkyrioneuits all about them Animals ladies bro wtf are you on about 🥺
@kendotek9414
Жыл бұрын
🤣🤣🤣@@asiblingproduction
@flynnhunter416
Жыл бұрын
@@asiblingproductionI like muscled women but holy hell, no thanks to those roided out fuckers. If that's what you like then you go to town but I'd sit this one out
@northstar6920
Жыл бұрын
@@Valkyrioneu Feels like such a waste killing them...
@ryanchase9332
11 ай бұрын
In my first playthrough, I was happy to live and let live with the gangs who didn't try and actively kill me. But I got to the final story section with the VDBs, specifically when you've leaving and Brigitte taunts you about Evelyn Parker. Long story short, I walked out of that church wearing her coat and a good chunk of her insides. Which started a prolonged one woman war between me and Pacifica that continues to this very day.
@steinarbergstl5799
11 ай бұрын
Yeah, the Voodoo Boys die, each and every one of them, every playthrough I do. If you're going to make it a standard operating procedure to betray every hired hand that works for you then don't be surprised if the chickens come home to roost when you fuck up and try to screw over someone powerful enough to turn your entire crew into a red stain on the floor. And walls. And ceiling.
@llcdrdndgrbd
9 ай бұрын
Also I hate Placide for some reason, just can’t stand that guy
@Jm96RoCk
8 ай бұрын
Respect sister
@thumbhead3370
11 ай бұрын
What I hate the most about the Voodoo boys is how unbelievably stupid it is that the animals, or literally anyone else, haven't smashed up all their servers and killed every single one of them way before the game even starts. They are literally trying to kill everyone who isn't in their gang, and Netwatch knows that, yet never takes direct action against them? Ok maybe they are somehow for no justified reason afraid that they would lose that fight. Arasaka wouldn't, Kang Tao, Militech, they wouldn't either. Surely the corpos would work together for that one, and even if they don't Netwatch only would need one to agree. Even then, its not like big dumb brutes like the animals wouldn't overwhelm them through sheer force of numbers. Even extraordinarily powerful individuals, like V, can only quickhack so many people at a time. Even stupider, they kill literally anyone that does them a favor. Zero gangs would survive like that in the real world, let alone a brutal dystopia barely held together by tenuous agreements and honor between gangs to not just slaughter each other in the streets all the time. The VDB's would be getting contracts put out against them every single day from every fixer attracting the attention of very powerful gang members and solos because of their stupid policy of openly being proud of betraying every non Haitian. Just ask Maelstrom just how fucking bad betraying the wrong solo can fuck you over. The VDB's of course can learn that lesson too, their entire elite netrunning squad, their leaders, all dead because they betray you for literally (LITERALLY) no reason whatsoever for absoluteley no gain. Even if you let them get away with that, I doubt they learn their lesson and continue pissing everyone off. Realistically, the second Netwatch believed the black wall was in danger either they or the animals being paid by Netwatch would have stormed the crypt and beaten all of the VDB's to death. Also, Placide, what the fuck does he mean when he says "dey call us dis" when you ask him about their name? They literally CALL THEMSELVES the Voodoo boys. What the fuck are you talking about Placide? Why is he so stupid and infuriating? The fact that the game doesn't give you the option to see through his painfully fucking obvious deception regardless of your stats is so frustrating to sit through, especially so on subsequent playthroughs. God I hate the Voodoo boys so fucking much.
@TresTrefusis
11 ай бұрын
The Voodoo boys are stupid dangerous runners on top of having their own Netaccess setup, not just the chairs but all of the hardware as well. No one has moved in or said anything because they will fry you in your sleep from across the city. I don't like them either but netrunners in Cyberpunk are terrifying.
@DancerVeiled
9 ай бұрын
Yeah, I had the attitude of "Screw me once, shame on me, screw me twice, I'll flatline all of you." Didn't even feel bad.
@pax6833
8 ай бұрын
@@DancerVeiled Netwatch not only destroyed their backstabbing virus, but also gave a means to extract extra revenge on them when it turns out they lied about helping with the biochip. Wish they gave an option to text a thank you note to that Agent. Fuck the VDB.
@marauderhealth9639
8 ай бұрын
Despite being a three months old comment, still tossing a random thought in. I reckon the VDBs survive because they are extremely good at hiding themselves. Culling the gang would mean culling all of Pacifica, and generally that's a big no-no in morals and ethics. And since they are so ridiculously difficult to find via netrunning as well, can't rely on tracking them through the net. As for the reason they kill every outsider they work with, that ensures nobody can question those outsiders for details about the VDBs. After all, dead men tell no tales.
@HappyBuffalo347
4 ай бұрын
There's lots of graffiti on voodoo boys turf that says VDB or Voodoo or whatever. They definitely call themselves that
@-nav-398
Жыл бұрын
I think in NC the general idea is to try and go the route Jackie took: stick with a gang that can watch your back long enough for you to try and go solo merc. Then you should have some gear, some chrome, and be in a better position to stick to whatever morals you have left after growing up in NC. I 100% agree with your assessments about each gang.
@sillylittlesheepjax6009
Жыл бұрын
Not realistic to think gang will just let member go when he gets bored😅 im suprised val just let Jackie leave
@crisisasp5396
Жыл бұрын
@@sillylittlesheepjax6009 isnt there a whole lore thing where jack and only and 1 other guy left the valentinos?
@jackbassdrop9412
11 ай бұрын
@@sillylittlesheepjax6009I mean it’s not exactly realistic for V to be able to single handedly raid Arasaka on his own either. We’re legends in this game, anything goes
@justinh9674
10 ай бұрын
@@jackbassdrop9412Well considering how insanely cromed out V is it’s not too insane to believe an Arasaka raid is possible. Even though it happened two times Arasaka doesn’t expect a handful of peopel just showing up, they’re more prepared for a vehicle attack from another corp (example is how they managed to shoot down the Militech av in the rogue ending while failing in stopping entry in the others)
@seijuroakashi9178
9 ай бұрын
@@justinh9674Considering its possible to finish the game with only Kiroshi Optics installed, its not the chrome that makes the solo
@kymanihall3174
Жыл бұрын
As a Jamaican I wanted to like the Voodoo Boys so much man - and that intro in the church was atmospheric AF buuuuut after what they pulled on me and Evelyn on my first playthru its on sight subsequently ESPECIALLY Placide. Had no issue with maelstrom until I read that new novel - now its on sight too.
@davidinass
Жыл бұрын
What did maelstrom do?
@kymanihall3174
Жыл бұрын
@@davidinass Spoilers for the novel if you haven't read it and plan to - don't read any further Basically they tortured and killed a bunch of innocent people just cuz they were vaguely connected to the protagonists who did a job on maelstrom's turf (didn't really even cross maelstrom they robbed Militech). Imagine someone slices up your coworker cuz you robbed an amazon warehouse in their neighborhood basically. Also they sliced up hanging dead bodies at live events to make sculptures as a sort of performance.
@sundown6806
7 ай бұрын
Maelstrom likes to kidnap people and stuff them full of implants. You can see that in both a cyberpsycho mission with the Valentino and the mission with the monks. There's also a mission where they kidnapped a ripperdoc and forced her to work for them. And also there's another cyberpsycho mission where they took one of Brick's last supporters and tortured him into being their attack dog. They're not very nice.
@HappyBuffalo347
4 ай бұрын
NC is a dog eat dog place. I wipe the VDBs on my way out of the church but I dont hold a grudge after that.
@lyrictdk
2 ай бұрын
I wanted to like them too, I thought it was cool that they were so reserved and kept to their own. Then it became obvious why they kept to their own, anyone who works with them ends up flatlined.
@wiredelectrosphere
Жыл бұрын
For me scavs are the ones I never miss the chance of killing when I see them and valentinos are the ones I try to avoid killing all the time
@ibannash
Жыл бұрын
You missed the Badlands gangs(Aldecaldos and Raffens). I know they technically aren't from within Night City, but they are involved.
@tron9683
Жыл бұрын
He didn't miss them, because they aren't gangs (in the context of this game/lore). They categorized as nomads, and naturally wouldn't be included in a list like this.
@Ra1nRover
Жыл бұрын
@tron9683 the wraiths are a gang. One of the loading screen splash text says it.
@rustyjones7908
Жыл бұрын
@@Ra1nRoverThe tabletop considered the raffen shiv a nomad family though, so I can see the arguments either way. Hell, one of the nomad clans was a corporation.
@andrewcarter9649
Жыл бұрын
@@rustyjones7908 Wraiths are a specific subset of Raffen though, effectively having coalesced into a gang in the badlands around Night City rather than just being scattered groups of exiled Nomads.
@judgedrekk2981
Жыл бұрын
Aldecados aren't a gang really but if we classify em as such then they're by fart the best gang in the city the wraiths are just as bad as the scavs...probably worse since somehow they pissed them off too LMAO how do you do that? think about that here you are operating outside the city most of the time and somehow you've pissed off even the worst bottom feeders? dayum dawg!!!! lolz
@OscarLT321
Жыл бұрын
Even though killing and incapacitating makes no real difference game wise, whenever I see maelstrom or scavs incapacitated I tend give em a quick melee
@draochvar9646
Жыл бұрын
Yea, when those lowlifes are involved, leave no survivors!
@scottwatrous
Жыл бұрын
At this point the only gang I won't engage is the Mox, and the rest of the gangs, if they go down they get the sword.
@Ozzianman
Жыл бұрын
Quick melee? Gotta inject them some acute lead poisoning.
@scottwatrous
11 ай бұрын
@@Ozzianman lately I been using a nerotox knife to the chrome to finish the job as required. Satisfying thunk.
@ser_igel
9 ай бұрын
my V is rich enough for her to use bullets and when we're talking about scavs or maelstrom i'm acting as a ripperdoc who mistakes lead for chrome
@HalfBreedMix
Жыл бұрын
32:33 minor correction: If I remember correctly, you CAN join the Valentinos even if you are NOT Hispanic/Latino(a).
@med5674
Жыл бұрын
I would honestly like to see more of the Mox seeing as what we see of them is rather limited compared to the others and they’re mostly a paragon of morality and virtue in the criminal world to the point where Judy joined them for a time and continued working with them after she left.
@juanmccoy3066
11 ай бұрын
Huh? What game did u play? I wouldn't call them virtuous in this game or in the broader table top universe. Can't think of a worse word for them. Not even "relatively virtuous" would fit. The mox exploit hookers and johns the way corpos exploit employees and consumers. I guess to you, that's virtuous. Guess the whole point of the game flew over ur smooth ape brain but whatever.
@georgewilliamson5667
25 күн бұрын
I always fucked with the Mox. Like yeah they're running prostitution and porn and all which are often pretty shady businesses even in our world, but at least the Mox make real efforts to do it all legit and actually protect their workers. They're small, at least for now, but with what a big business sex is in NC and the fact that the Mox makes an effort to keep sex workers safe, I could see them grow as more and more sex workers go to them over other groups as the Mox will actually treat them with some level of respect.
@Brntnugget
Жыл бұрын
Another interesting note about 6th street ( Small spoilers for phantom liberty), they will actually work for NUSA sometimes, as seen and told by reed when he calls them in to help take out a max tac convoy. Although reed is clearly using them, it’s interesting that 6th street is willing to do all of this for very little just cuz of patriotism
@Napoleonic_S
10 ай бұрын
they're the MAGA of Night City, lol...
@jordangeles
Жыл бұрын
Ngl. Scavs are KoS for me. Same with tiger claws; it’s too many sex crimes and abuse for me.
@seikatsuragi7237
8 ай бұрын
May seem weird, but I dislike Tyger Claws even more than the Scavs. At least scavs don't go pretending they are honorable and "good", Tyger Claws are too hypocrite for me to not engage in a shootout with them if there's a minimal provocation from them.
@DachiffDisco
4 ай бұрын
@@seikatsuragi7237 also they like to pretend theyre not arasaka's organized crime branch
@misterkirikou
Жыл бұрын
So basicaly stay clear of all of them , the valentinos and the mox are the only ones not too messed up
@draochvar9646
Жыл бұрын
Joining the Mox is definitely the better option than staying on your own, since they'll have your back. Just be aware that that membership comes with the obligation of returning that favour and that you can't drag them into full-on gang wars or commit autrocities whilst attached to them. In essence: if you're a regular, reasonable person, joining the Mox is probably your best bet. If you're a bit more of an ambitious person, the Valentinos are for you, just keep the additional risks of politiking, gang-wars and backstabbings in mind.
@misterkirikou
Жыл бұрын
@@draochvar9646 i havent played in a while but from what i remember backstabbing isnt really an issue with the valentinos ( in comparison with the other gangs )
@draochvar9646
Жыл бұрын
@@misterkirikou there are some things that come up in files you can read and the whole mess with Arasaka/ Militech
@jdmmike7225
Жыл бұрын
I have a particular distaste for the Scavs and the Raffen Shiv. Tho im not a big fan of The Voodoo Boys either. Their willingness to just try & rub you out multiple times always gets to me. I always wipe out their leadership. I got no prob with 6th Street & is usually intrigued by Maelstrom. Great video 🤙
@Aquamarine175
Жыл бұрын
0:46 FYI lizzy borden was a real life serial killer that took the life of 3 people with an axe (i think it was her family members) in the nineties
@saint.7198
24 күн бұрын
1800’s*
@Aquamarine175
22 күн бұрын
@@saint.7198 I meant 19th century but yeah
@legend7951
Жыл бұрын
With the valentino's origins I had imagined them to be two separate gangs, with the original lady-obsessed valentinos fading away by the times of cyberpunk red. Maybe they adapted and changed to fit the Night City post-2020 though.
@phenyotsatsinyane2351
Жыл бұрын
This Video was much needed. I played 3 playthroughs and I still didn't fully understand which gangs I was up against at times.
@thecomfyshirt
11 ай бұрын
Glad they scaled back to only 8 gangs. If they tried to cram in even half the gangs from the source books it’d have been way way way too much.
@seikatsuragi7237
8 ай бұрын
A lot of the gangs from the books were posergangs, so, they were almost more like a fandom rather than a gang tbh. And some fit better in the 2020 stylen and the real life 90's style.
@archvile7538
Жыл бұрын
It's always a good day when Sam Bram uploads
@notaword1136
11 ай бұрын
I will say, it's kinda funny to me that I've always read the Valentino's large population and strong family themes was a result of their original mission statement, and as such, I assumed a lot of them are actually related to at least 1 of the original members
@abraxasvirus2218
Жыл бұрын
Valentinos for the loyalty, Maelstrom for the aesthetics and Metal Music
@RedRabbitEntertainment
Жыл бұрын
My V always on some anti-fascist shit unless I'm playing corpo. Otherwise they're getting beat to death with gorilla arms.
@jaydenshepard7928
Жыл бұрын
@@RedRabbitEntertainmentanti fascist? Cringe
@RedRabbitEntertainment
Жыл бұрын
@@jaydenshepard7928 Y'all don't say shit when we come to your protests armed.
@jaydenshepard7928
11 ай бұрын
@@RedRabbitEntertainment lmao the fact you need to bring guns to a protest just to avoid getting your shit kicked in says enough as it is, really playing with fire too. The right has always been superior when it comes to violence. Antifa took nothing but Ls everytime they tried to throw down with their right counterparts, so now they just bring guns and rely on the average right winger having more of a life to throw away than they do. People who cant win a fist fight aren’t mentally equipped to win a gunfight. If the bluff ever gets called its a wrap for yall. Better yet I doubt you’ve even been to an event or done shit. Just another shitter typing on his keyboard and trying to reinforce their own fragile ego by clinging to the actions of people they identify with from far away.
@szysi3k
11 ай бұрын
I'm still waiting for my eye lasers and spider legs. Also facism is a way to go in the dystopian techno city.
@nathangordon4891
11 ай бұрын
6th street aren’t necessarily evil They’re anti corporate and actually protect people from other gangs. In ‘stadium love’ they seem popular in the community, and in Panam’s first quest, you give them medications for cyber psychosis that they give out to veterans that need it.
@thesilliestgoose5990
3 ай бұрын
Now including the DLC, Barghest is probably the best option. Mostly former militech who hate corps and the government, and run an extremely well-protected independent city state inside an independent city state. Plus, you get a ton of advanced weapons, armor, and cyberware and they have an albeit rigorous recruitment process that’s open to anyone who is able to fight. That, and they truly do care about the citizens of dog town as a whole and protect them from outside influences as much as they can. That being said, while their ethics are mostly on the same level as the Mox, they sometimes make less than ethical decisions in order to survive like making trade deals with Scavs. Not like they welcome Scavs around, as they regularly get into firefights with individual gangs of them and often refuse to help them.
@keysncoffee7733
Жыл бұрын
Mans casually making a video about joining gangs 😁 Great work on this video! A ton of information I hadn’t known before!
@SamBram
Жыл бұрын
Thanks! Yeah, I mean who doesn't love to make a video about joining gangs on a quiet afternoon???
@DurtyDan
8 ай бұрын
Generally I tend to leave the gangs alone unless they're messing with me. Scavs are the exception, they get cut down by my sword at lightning speed.
@rustyjones7908
Жыл бұрын
I don't like the scavs, but I i do like their holomasks. I just think they look cool. Edit: in the cyberpunk 2020 tabletop there were cyberware suites called "exotics" that were basically furries. Wolves, cats, lions, dragons, etc. I feel like The Animals should have gone that way but i guess it didn't fit the tone CDPR was going for. Too bad their drugs kill libido, only thing keeping Rhino from being best girl. Have you seen the mods that clean her up and clear her roid acne? She's actually got nice features imo. A bit on the butch side but still quite pretty.
@thorveim1174
24 күн бұрын
I think "exotics" would clash with the theme of Animals augmenting themselves the biological way instead of through cyberware
@rustyjones7908
24 күн бұрын
@@thorveim1174 that does make sense. It's kind of ironic that many have to still augment their skeletons to keep their muscles from ripping their bodies apart. No shade, I think that's actually good writing and im-theme.
@thorveim1174
24 күн бұрын
@@rustyjones7908 yup they still take some augments, though most are apparently in-house and dont have electronics (and are stuff like facilitating the intake of substances like steroids to optimize their effects on top of the bone reinforcments), which may on top be an in-lore reason why the VDBs needed help dealing with the Animals: their chief skill is netrunning, but in an Animal there is very little one can actually hack, making the Animals almost immune to the biggest strengh of the VDB. And may also be why they were the hired muscle of choice for an operation against the VDB
@rustyjones7908
24 күн бұрын
@@thorveim1174 indeed, that makes perfect sense. The game deserves credit for it's attention to detail
@DancerVeiled
9 ай бұрын
I thought Placide was a pretty cool guy by first impression, but the 'interview' raised several red flags that told me this guy was bad news.
@thorveim1174
24 күн бұрын
and then you learn that Placide isnt a rotten egg: he is the NORM when it comes to how the VDB treat outsiders.
@Muninnswake
Жыл бұрын
This was a pretty cool breakdown of the gangs in the game, curious of your thoughts on the rest of the gangs from the lore. You didnt even mention the Bozos, which has a member represented in 2077.
@damodeus6990
7 ай бұрын
Mox - Not worthy of a trophy. Everything else - Let the hunt begin
@joshnoritake3167
11 ай бұрын
The valentinos have power AND will basically never betray you. The only concern is that they are kind of like Jackie: they have their sights set high, and they may not have the ruthlessness and cunning to make it to the top and could get backstabbed.
@paulgordon8771
Жыл бұрын
Love your videos bro, I love this game but your videos have definitely helped hugely in my ability to digest the enormity and complexity of everything going on in this game, And for I wouldn't join but maelstrom definitely intrigue me the most, albeit a bit of a morbid curiosity hahaha Can't wait for you to breakdown mr blue eyes, and everything potentially linked to him, and have you considered doing a video exploring Garry the prophets speeches, although I spoke they do kinda relate a little to mr blue eyes and rogue AI's and that whole side Oh nd also a video exploring Rache bartmos would definitely be dope aswell Thanks again for your well presented and oh so very informative content 😀🙃
@jester_24-78
Жыл бұрын
This man speaks truth you helping avg cyberpunk fans understand the truth of the lore and we all 🤯🤯
@RichHeart89
11 ай бұрын
My way of navigating morality in night city is: "Seek out Panam and Judy, their friends are your friends, everyone else is target practise"
@alexIVMKD
2 ай бұрын
Valentinos make the most sense lore wise if you are a street kid and goes well with Jackie
@mikewoods5905
Жыл бұрын
Yep, yep, this is good breakdown of the Night City gangs. My strategy however is to mine all of the blue carroted minions I run across for scrap-able resources (except for NCPD anyway). How else are you going to feed your insatiable weapon, clothing and chrome upgrade habit. That keeps me aligned with the After Life mercs. I guess if you’re not as capable as V then one of the other gangs is a more attractive option.
@vampiricn1ght
4 ай бұрын
"Animals are dangerous and lethal in melee combat". I always forget this considering I abuse my Sandevistan so much you'd think I'm David Martinez while slashing everything with Mantis Blades
@ghostrecondelta1741
Ай бұрын
Avoid killing :Mox Only during jobs or self defense: Valentinos, Animals, 6th Street, Tiger Claws(Debatable) On sight: Scavs, Voodoo Boys, and Maelstrom.
@Adonisius_Kavata
Ай бұрын
Mox and Valentinos are my favorite. I try to keep out of their way at every oppertunity. The other gangs can all catch a sandevistan powered katana, though
@ZerebusPrime
Жыл бұрын
By the time V is done, the canonical membership rosters of these gangs should be a lot smaller. And by the time my V is done, people should know better than to be around pickups blasting eurodance music.
@jester_24-78
Жыл бұрын
Ngl sounds weird but i kinda respect maelstrom Or at least the ones that arent total cyber psychos. They got all that chrome and are holding it together no relics just them and chrome sure alot of them have started falling to cyber psychosis but there are some that are just built different.
@MisterCynic18
Жыл бұрын
That's the trick though, they aren't holding it together at all. One of the datashards explains they all pretty much go psycho as part of the initiation, and they weed out those that survive but still display empathy or don't engage in enough sadism to pass as psycho. No wonder they tried to zero Brick, guy's just too sane to be a Maelstromer.
@ObnoxiousCamoToe
Ай бұрын
"It was all just a friendly misunderstanding" "Mmm, sure." I don't know why but V's deadpan response is so damn funny to me 😂
@Choom2077
3 ай бұрын
Shiva's death is left in ambiguity. She didn't use any proper coolant when she jacked in the net. Fried herself to a crisp. If you read the emails on her computer, you'd have seen she was trying to get something better to keep herself cool but was not able to. Her tenacity pushed her into jacking in anyways.
@dredgen0268
Жыл бұрын
I really wish they would add like a gang DLC; give us a life path to be a ganger. You get to chose your gang and really let us live out a goon life.
@cliffjumper416
10 ай бұрын
Definitely Tyger Claws and The Mox, they're both my favorite gangs with The Mox being the one I'd probably join
@9999plato
Жыл бұрын
The clouds situation probably didnt work out because the dolls were afraid of having their combat implants kick in at the wrong time. They may have had them turned off. As ide from that there were only 2 dolls with the combat implantrsd. If all of the workers had the same programming and were in on it they might have succeeded. THey needed more muscle and they needed to damage the tiger claws just as the Mox had to establish themselves.
@alfieshepherd6522
9 ай бұрын
They should have joined the MOX after taking over, maybe the MOX wouldn't agree to that though because it would probably start a war with the Tiger claws.
@cairox1509
8 ай бұрын
Judy destoyed the combat chips after the mission
@TheDplo
Ай бұрын
Mox: Judy's chooms are my chooms. Not yet faced any reason to aggro one. Tinos: Jackie's chooms. Neutralize only if strictly needed, preferably non-lethal. Tygers, Animals and 6th: case by case, scanning before. Collateral damage can happen tho. VDB: In my game just before the Netwatch netrunner's choice, got a savefile to test playing both along and against them, but seeing this video i guess the 'against' option will be the playthrough i'll carry on and they'll get into the: Kill on sight list: Maelstrom: Usually spare low-threat downed survivors but don't care that much. Raffen shiv: Shoot to kill + finish survivors. Preying on Aldecados was unforgivable. Plus they were already nearly as disgusting as the Scavs: Given the chance nearby, their bodies ends up into a dumpster, in water or thrown from height.
@negative6442
Жыл бұрын
I hope we get the Inquisitors back in Phantom Liberty. Would love to see them square off against the Maelstrom
@archvile7538
Жыл бұрын
You inspire me so much. I've been working on a Tabletop RPG in 2077 and your videos diving deep in the gangs and corpos of 2077 help me to enrich my story with even deeper connections and complexity I would never have noticed otherwise. I always watch your videos taking several notes to make my description and understanding of this world ever sharper.
@thecthuloser876
Жыл бұрын
>.> Hope you're actually using Cyberpunk 2020 or Cyberpunk RED for it.
@archvile7538
Жыл бұрын
@@thecthuloser876 indeed I am
@thecthuloser876
Жыл бұрын
@@archvile7538 lol, good. I mean, it would be fine even if you didn't... But I just remember around the time Edgerunners came out, there was an article going around on TTRPG circles that was like "how to play Cyberpunk in D&D".
@archvile7538
Жыл бұрын
@@thecthuloser876 that sounds awful. Thankfully we have tons of material to play with in the rulebook and it's DLCs.
@archvile7538
Жыл бұрын
Also, it's surprising the amount of people that played the game, watched the anime and still don't know about the rulebooks.
@fuzzyhead878
Жыл бұрын
Fun fact for those who haven’t heard of it before, lidocaine is a real anesthetic used when doing procedures on specific areas, such as the neck, gums, or breasts. Kinda cool seeing a substance I see being used regularly in my job (I work at a hospital, don’t worry) is being mentioned in a video game I play, even if it’s being used for less than ideal reasons.
@Skaftholu
Жыл бұрын
I mean, you can buy the stuff right now in hundreds of different forms over the counter. It's not like some magical secret substance that nobody has ever heard of or seen before. Might as well be talking about ibuprofen.
@dr_cachetes6822
11 ай бұрын
I mean... i was also very excites when i saw they also eat food like we do, and breath air! And drive cars! As i do in my regular life, it is so on point omg! They also have a trauma team that goes and picks up sick people... like ambulances! Who would have thought!
@kaiRagin
Ай бұрын
I like that in the 6th Street combat theme there are siren sounds. I guess it signifies their roll and their whole police substitute thing.
@nebeskisrb7765
4 ай бұрын
1) I'm in love with that Mox bouncer. 2) Tyger Claws have the best drip. Also they're prolly the most batshit bloodthirsty as far as I've noticed. 3) Scavs, Borgs and Vodoos on sight.
@gercey3314
Жыл бұрын
I like the comments that try to draw a line between which gangs they kill. I chuckle a little whenever I see them.
@slaanynionysus7420
Жыл бұрын
Nice vid!
@OSIRIS30
3 ай бұрын
I have a soft spot for the Valentinos. For them and the Mox, its all non-lethal. 6th Street, here-and-there. But everyone else, especially the VDB's its blood and skulls.
@zaooza34
7 ай бұрын
Well you can`t join any of them anyway
@lyrictdk
2 ай бұрын
Scavs, Maelstrom, Claws, and the Raffens it's on sight.
@fukurato9539
8 ай бұрын
Finally grabbed cyberpunk at christmas and am so into it. Lov your vids, would love to watch them all instantly xD but i wanna be carefull with spoilers now so i have to wait for some xD
@szymonk.7267
Жыл бұрын
Love the way you deep dive in this horrific and yet so interesting fiction world ... although, is it really that fictional ? I see it more like a dark promise what will happen if humanity will go to hard on the kapitalism and konsumptionist Road
@chloewebb5526
11 ай бұрын
You'd be surprised where the russian mob pops up. I used to be big into the rave scene in Detroit in late 90s early 00s, and whenever it came to venues, pill presses for mdma, or money lending for events - the people on the scene with the most pull had thick russian accents with people who didnt even speak english in the room in most cases. I had a friend who owed then a lot of money before going to prison, and after 12 years he got out and had strangers with russian accents demanding to collect and he couldn't find any of the people he used to deal with to confirm - meaning the debt was passed. Everyone called them the russian mob, and it's something everyone just kind of knew, but it was never something confirmed, just always insinuated and unclear.
@thefez-cat
Жыл бұрын
Main difference between The Mox and actual gangoons is that you don't, so far as I know, see them randomly murdering store-owners, mugging people, kidnapping them, or using heavy military weapons in traffic because someone pissed them off. It's easy to forget the Wraith exist when you're not actually dealing with their bullshit, but given they are by definition "people so terrible the Nomads disown them" it's safe to say that every one fewer Shiv is an improvement to the world. The Scavs are arguably not a real gang, per se, because they don't seem to have any kind of gang hierarchy, just individual cells of murderous assholes with a common occupation and similar aesthetic. But they're every bit as violent, unhinged bastards as Maelstrom -- and the two even do business with each other regular, given one deals in stolen chrome and the other are chrome addicts.
@davhot4107
Жыл бұрын
The Mox actually can blackmail you. Imagine having sex with one then she/he capture it on video and ask you for monthly money if you don't want the video to be sent to your wife, kids and workplace.
@KaitouKaiju
Жыл бұрын
@@davhot4107Dolls don't remember the experience though
@LenoViburnum
11 ай бұрын
"From the moment I understood the weakness of my flesh, it disgusted me."
@killmonger5097
Жыл бұрын
I’d join the Mox for obvious reasons
@pizzathehut2264
Жыл бұрын
Yeah I would join them too. They seem to have less going on around them that could end your life.
@codeinecowboy8607
Жыл бұрын
Rita wheeler is best girl
@mordredpendragon1235
27 күн бұрын
Don't join any of them but you'll probably have to if you don't want to die in that city
@mr.potato7075
4 ай бұрын
She pretty much washed her hair at least four times. What a trustworthy person! So grounded and honest with everyone, especially herself.
@zhefaloosia7953
7 ай бұрын
If my scan saw one affliated with Scavengers, they're gonna die, and their corpse will be unrecognizable.
@mvh-
6 күн бұрын
recently started playing cyberpunk 2077, been binging this channel. Learning a lot about the world is so cool. From a newbie perspective, I seem to have fallen in to the very popular habit of dropping every scav i see. I never touch the mox. But I think Tyger claws are probably the coolest gang and after learning more about maelstrom from this video they are a close second. I'm not a fan of the voodoo boys, I'm not going to lie, I killed them all in the main quest. Valentinos are also cool which is backed up by my soft spot for Jackie Welles. Ain't a fan of sixth street, they seem boring and big headed. Animals aren't my favourite but are definitely unique, and low key terrifying to fight.
@NeonFlare
11 ай бұрын
It would've been neat if there was some sort of gang reputation system in game
@14megasxlr
Жыл бұрын
If tthere were two things I wish thing game had, it would be a more in-depth reputation system that measures per-group affiliation or background simulation and a more in depth bounty system where gangs could send assassins after you.
@AgtPaper665
11 ай бұрын
So, what I'm hearing is that I should continue my journey as a cleasing fire on the streets, saving only the Mox.
@ikarikaoka
Жыл бұрын
Suggestion: why don't you make a video explaining possible reasons that caused V and Jackie's high-stakes heist to fail (or become a double tragedy) in Cyberpunk 2077? I know that some answers may be obvious, but those with a deeper knowledge of the lore can bring a broader and more enlightening point of view. It would even be a way to remember the preparation, the planning, the different interests involved and the details of the mission that inaugurates the central plot of the game. It's good to remember that I'm referring more to the ambitious and dangerous mission of "cheating" and robbing one of the strongest and most influential megacorporations in the world without being restricted to the details and unforeseen events of the plot. That is: if any group had the same intention, what would be vital to do (or invest/take precautions) to at least increase the chances of success without amateur failures?
@RedMaitreya
Жыл бұрын
It was rigged from the start, which was why Jackie called it a divine comedy moment. If you read the NETWATCH agents laptop during the Pacifica questline; you find out Evelyn was working to double sellout you & voodoo boys.
@kaushalsuvarna5156
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for making these
@hubertrozalski7070
2 ай бұрын
Considering the fact that CP2077 was made by a polish game developer, we should not be surprised that Scavs are mostly Russian.
@Greningas
Жыл бұрын
Scavs have lost their human rights, Animals, Maelstrom, 6 streets and voodoo have abadoned their humanity and dignity for various reasons, so its either Valentinos, Mox or Tiger Claws for me.
@draochvar9646
Жыл бұрын
Tygers are on the same Lvl. as 6th Street for me, if not worse. They're the worst aspects of Asian organized crime distilled into a single organization, held on a leash as Arasaka's attack dogs and filled, top to bottom, with a repulsive assortment of vicious psychopaths. I won't shoot them on-sight as I do with the Scavs but if they cross me, they should not hold out hope for mercy.
@stanimir4197
Жыл бұрын
@@draochvar9646 > won't shoot them on-sight
@andrewjazdzyk1215
Ай бұрын
Man i really have missed a ton of this game doing only the cyberpsychosis gigs, dogtown gigs, car gigs, and main story. I even only ever went to two ripperdocs because i felt so loyal to Victor 😭
@RyanMK666
Жыл бұрын
Honestly if I still don’t have the option to join the Mox in phantom liberty im throwing hands.
@maskedman5657
Жыл бұрын
Thats easy. Its Maelstrom. Wrap it folks. We're done here.
@Seraphim_1172
Жыл бұрын
I think everyone can agree Scavs are the worst by far.
@maskedman5657
Жыл бұрын
@@Seraphim_1172 You don't have to complete chrome out your face though.
@jamestherockwilson3931
Жыл бұрын
@@Seraphim_1172meh, all Maelstrom members are on the verge of cyberpschosis and had to sacrifice much of their own body, just to get in the gang. Scavs can have other goals in life than to harvest organs whereas Maelstromers are in it for the long run. There are instances of scavs being ruthless monsters but there are other moments when scavs show they yearn for something outside of this criminal life. You don't see that with Maelstrom
@MisterCynic18
Жыл бұрын
@@Seraphim_1172scavs are just vultures, maelstromers are actual monsters.
@sebulller
2 ай бұрын
hmmm. Malestrom=shoot on sight. Scavs=shoot on sight. 6th street. Shoot on sight. The mox=leave them alone. Tyger claws=shoot on sight. The voodo boys=DEFO SHOOT ON SIGHT! The animals= bring alot of bullets and shoot on sight. Yeah that is about it.
@oursaisert
11 ай бұрын
if you're of Haitian decent VDB are an automatic yes, i remember my first time playing the game i really wanted to be friend with them, i loved how loved placid was by everyone when you first meet him. Then reality hit but i think if you're from there you have an actual family, even more so than the valentinos. The mox is definitely my go to though
@captaincobalt2111
4 ай бұрын
My stance on Night City's gangs: Mox: They're cool. Everything else: Tasty XP for cleaning up night city...
@ZhukelDror
7 ай бұрын
Always join Maelstrom, no other option.
@staticthewhitewolf7040
Жыл бұрын
Aside from the Mox, I tend to wipe out all gangs I find on the street. Then again you don't find the Mox doing crimes on the street. Tracy Owens found in the Conex shipping container is mentioned in the computer of the last line of the Jitraos supply chain. The one on the roof in the same neighborhood. I put him in a trunk yesterday and can't remember his name. They list her as up for grabs. My favorite gang is only in nightcity for a few encounters. The Aldecaldos and if you play out your interactions right, you get to join them.
@IzzyWitDaUzi
Жыл бұрын
Aldecaldos aren't a gang. They're a nomad nation.
@davhot4107
Жыл бұрын
Mox don't do crimes in the streets but they are vicious manipulators and gasligthers dude.
@IzzyWitDaUzi
Жыл бұрын
@@davhot4107 The Mox are just a bunch of militant prostitutes. I think people mostly like them because Judy but she doesn't even seem to like them that much either after she's been with them a while and see's how they really operate.
@mikete714
Жыл бұрын
Aye got me wanting to start a new game my boy. Lol good info, thanks
@petertrex
Жыл бұрын
hiii new vid from Sam means good day!
@itsmrbigsmoke862
15 күн бұрын
At the end of the day, most of the people in night city are just trying to survive. That includes scavs
@justinmayo7064
11 ай бұрын
Missed one the Wraths. Other wise I shoot on sight in this order: scavs, maelstrom, voodoo boys, 6th street, tiger claws, wraths, valintinos.
@RaidenKaiser
5 ай бұрын
We do the Jotaro gig really early in the game and yet his influence is all over. Makes me wonder if we even got the real Jotaro and just got a double.
@mexamrc
11 ай бұрын
It's crazy how in phantom liberty we literally see 6th Street still work for the NUSA aka Militech.
@johnroberts838
Жыл бұрын
Brilliant video, thank you Sam 👍👍👍
@SamBram
Жыл бұрын
Thank you John. Glad you enjoyed!
@wingless62
Ай бұрын
It's the mox Valentino's 6tb Street Tyger claws Animal's Scavs Malestrom Voodoo boys (From best to worst)
@allengordon6929
Жыл бұрын
Maelstrom period. If cyberpsychosis is inevitable, you might as well embrace it. Also brain damage is probably a blessing more than a curse in the cyberpunkverse.
@ccc2839
11 ай бұрын
why dont you back it up with a source? @@davhot4107
@beoweasel
9 ай бұрын
Royce in particular freaks me out because the times you look at him from the front, he looks weird, but not too nightmarish. However, when he turns his head, you realize JUST how deep his optics are set into his skull and how much the front of his brain pan is missing.
@feint007
11 ай бұрын
I mess with whatever Gang I want, I slow down time like a Magician
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