On the topic of Hoid Lightweaver oaths, maybe those are why Nomad FINALLY got a real apology from him. Hoid has been forced to confront that aspect of himself and start to change.
@oneukum
8 ай бұрын
Truths need to be honest. Change is not required.
@king_dot
8 ай бұрын
@@oneukumSelf-honestly causes change, doesn’t need to be a requirement.
@oneukum
8 ай бұрын
@@king_dot I strongly suspect that a) Hoid's penultimate truth is: I did most of it for petty personal reasons b) And the ultimate truth: I'd do it all again for the same reasons
@UnalloyedLore
7 ай бұрын
i do think his reasons are very good. My only real question is what the heck he's up to. We never get to see the full picture with ol' Cephandrius.@@oneukum
@that1oneguy770
8 ай бұрын
wild idea: what if canticle is a chrysalis for a splintered shard? like someone is trying to revive a shard by shoving as much investiture into it as possible
@brandonmack111
8 ай бұрын
I kinda love this. I'm going to have to look for it, but I'm pretty sure there's a wob about reviving splintered shards or something - that it would be very difficult, but not impossible..
@king_dot
8 ай бұрын
I wonder if it’s more a Chrysalis to make Ado 2
@UnalloyedLore
7 ай бұрын
If the investiture on the planet is sourced from the sun, I still don't think its enough to bring forth a shard. Maybe its a giant battery.
@egwenealvereiscool7726
4 ай бұрын
Okay but the sun itself clearly has much more investiture and that investitute could be very easily collected. Storing it in a planet is going to be extremely inefficient plus only capture a small portion of the sunlight - most goes into space. So the sun is just a way better battery than the planet.
@godminnette2
8 ай бұрын
I'm fine with gravitationspren being the plate spren for Skybreakers. Something about the law, forming societies, and the force of gravity occupies a similar thematic space in my mind; it goes beyond the powerset.
@traviscofer2519
8 ай бұрын
kind of a "gravity is a universal law" kind of thing, same.
@archierowe3893
8 ай бұрын
It makes perfect sense to me. Windrunners and Skybreakers both fly like the wind using gravity. One gets windspren and the other gets gravityspren. Windrunners had to get windspren because of the name and because Syl needed to be pretend to be one in the first book.
@pleaseclap7890
8 ай бұрын
On the topic of Hoid dating someone who became a Shard, I’m guessing it was Valor. Hoid never reached out to her despite the fact that he was willing to ask Autonomy for help, even when Valor seems to want to talk to Hoid according to Sazed. It could be some awkwardness about how Valor used to be someone he loved.
@Sheija
8 ай бұрын
So basically..Valor is a dragon confirmed?
@externalgills6886
8 ай бұрын
New headcanon: When they broke up, Hoid got the dog. She's been battling for custody of it ever since. That's what got her attuned to Valor. Hoid does not want to test her now that she's a Shard.
@lilibellenada7519
8 ай бұрын
sp basically, the story about the dog and the dragon?
@rainhunter5546
8 ай бұрын
I think it's Cultivation. "She and I never did get along" still reads like bad breakup more than anything else to me.
@Sheija
8 ай бұрын
Highspren appear as a rip in the fabric of space time, so you could link them conceptually in that they have infinite mass (kind of like a concatenation of gravitationspren - or they would attract that).
@msyverw
7 ай бұрын
I think you did a great job pronouncing my unpronounceable name, Argent! Sorry to put you (and the audio listeners) through that 😅
@leviseverson1552
7 ай бұрын
Bro, I just finished The Lost Metal TODAY for the FOURTH TIME and I still had no idea who Ruri was
@curtiswfranks
8 ай бұрын
"Grand Apparatus" feels like a steampunk invention. But its description feels like a Type II Civilization sci-fi setting.
@UnalloyedLore
7 ай бұрын
The name has me speculating on possible cosmere races that could be callbacks to the mechanicus of mars.
@obviousalias132
8 ай бұрын
Renarin's weird trick with Moash reminds me of Allomantic Gold/Malatium shadows and how Miles used his. Shallan's trick reminded more about Shai's explanation about how she soulstamped the wall into a mural.
@heatherrockwell9012
8 ай бұрын
"Sometimes you get nicer when you're dead" is the plot of my recent Heathers fics.
@Halrax_38
8 ай бұрын
I think I’ve read that one lol
@heatherrockwell9012
8 ай бұрын
@@Halrax_38 Oh? That’d be quite the coincidence. Which do you think it is?
@jester42100
8 ай бұрын
As far as Sunlit Man. The mini planet feels more like a prison. The changing nature of the molten surface could be keeping something in.
@externalgills6886
8 ай бұрын
Maybe the reason you want humans on your science experiment (Canticle) is so that it appears in the cognitive realm, because now there's minds thinking about it. That way you can just travel to it in the cognitive and do something Elsecaller-y, instead of mucking about with space travel.
@KevinHorecka
7 ай бұрын
If The Grand Apparatus is a thing made by a shard, I feel like one of the things shards are often styimied by is the limits to their ability to see into the future. So I think The Grand Apparatus is something that either greatly influences cosmic events or greatly improves a shard's ability to see future possibilities. That said, I think there's a faction we don't know about that is trying to reform the shards into one (a la adenolsium) and others (like wit) trying to prevent them. So if I'm placing a bet, it's that The Grand Apparatus is designed to force shards together.
@thomaspeck4537
8 ай бұрын
About overcoming torment with a sol stamp: I assume you would just change your history to make it so you never held the dawnshard. That seems most consistent with how normal sol stamps work.
@UnalloyedLore
7 ай бұрын
There are some inherent benefits to having been a dawnshard bearer that I think you wouldn't want to get rid of. Like Nomad's skip ability.
@liul
8 ай бұрын
I am so happy to see this video today. I think you are my favorite youtubers.
@curtiswfranks
8 ай бұрын
I imagine that Aviar are like birds. How many bird species are there? Relative to human imagination, the number is effectively infinite.
@Nylspider
5 ай бұрын
1:41:38 The game that Argent was talking about is called Escape Academy!! I’ve played it, it was on Xbox gamepass, and that particular puzzle was so memorable that I still remember what the final solution was (no spoilers tho :3)
@almogdov
8 ай бұрын
To whoever reads this and knows where to ask Brandon questions - in the Wiki it says that the name Adonalsium is derived from a Hebrew word for God. But if you break it to Adon Al Sium - it means in Hebrew - Lord/Master/(God) (Adon) of (Al) the end/ending (Sium). I wonder if it was on purpose meaning that Adonalsium will return in the end or Brandon just made it up because Alsium sounds cool.
@UnalloyedLore
7 ай бұрын
Master of the ending? If this is the literal meaning then it supports my big theory with this being and the shattering.
@almogdov
7 ай бұрын
@@UnalloyedLore That's the literal meaning, the question is if Brandon did it on purpose
@XavierRD
8 ай бұрын
38:35 Baby Shard Tututurutu 🎶
@Ruinlach
8 ай бұрын
Baby shard doo doo doo doo doo doo baby shard
@en-priestess7964
8 ай бұрын
I think Valor is the dragon and vessel that Hoid dated. Based on epigraphs from RoW, like why is he avoiding her if not because they’re exes… “Valor is reasonable, and suggest you approach her again. It has been too long, in her estimation, since your last conversation."
@Grux_ASG
8 ай бұрын
im not going to say this line up is goated, but its goated.
@godminnette2
8 ай бұрын
There's a lot of overlap between Transmutation and Progression: one is considered "neutral" change that is typically a complete, all-at-once alteration, while the other is "positive" and usually involves a sequence of smaller changes (however rapid). However, both are still about change, and can likely be used in some similar ways spiritually; Perception and Intent would likely be the biggest differentiators, here. But that would explain to me why both Shallan and Renarin can do similar things: the Resonance between Illumination and Transmutation is similar to the Resonance between Illumination and Progression.
@xy7596
8 ай бұрын
I am officially on the Edgli-Hoid ship, it would just be so funny, if you are a true believer it even fits with the dating a Dragon
@ericswearingenmusic9967
8 ай бұрын
P
@geosustento8894
8 ай бұрын
My theory is that Atium changes the 'polarity" of a metal. So on its own, maybe, it doesn't do anything. My basis for this is that that's basically what it did to electrum. Instead of showing the user their own future, Atium made it so it shows the user a target's future. So, for example, maybe an Atium-Steel alloy would make a target repel metals since Steel makes metals move away from the user.
@avonzapper
7 ай бұрын
That is interesting, I've been trying to think about the base properties of atium for a bit and my prevailing theory was that it acted as a sort of spiritual version of the metal it was alloyed with. This is because my original understanding of why atium worked the way it did was because seeing the future with that level of accuracy is one of the signature abilities of a shard. So the inversion theory is interesting, but I think it might be a little more than that considering how starkly different atium is from electrum.
@halo6819
8 ай бұрын
Jofwu do be sporting the Illianer beard! By my aged grandmother
@jharkey3
7 ай бұрын
Fortune prick me, but I do.
@robmack519
7 ай бұрын
I like the idea that Canticle is a battery. The odd investiture cycle keeps the investiture cycling so it doesn't become sapient. That makes the most sense to me.
@ijusmix2585
6 ай бұрын
What if the grand apparatus is something used by odium to shatter/kill shards
@prestonc9059
4 ай бұрын
Oooo that would be interesting, do you think it would be before or after the stormlight books?
@ijusmix2585
4 ай бұрын
@@prestonc9059 maybe back half
@jgrowland24
7 ай бұрын
Relating to the Admiral, modern Earth militaries are heavily reliant on both ocean ships and space ships (GPS satellites).
@SneakyTogedemaru
7 ай бұрын
2:23 - elsecallers can make star gates, cool!
@Landis963
8 ай бұрын
27:39 Felt almost like a prison to me. All that Investiture is going to maintain some binding or other, and/or sustaining the prisoner within. And it's otherwise inhospitable because it was never meant for Physical Realm habitation.
@zen_lemming
8 ай бұрын
Came for the Grand Apparatus, stayed for the stick.
@Caterwaulin
7 ай бұрын
For the Who's that Cosmere character before the final clue I thought it was Alliandre, so I was close
@Clamsey
8 ай бұрын
I always enjoy WoB episodes!
@thebookwyrm235
7 ай бұрын
That WTCC was brutal. Even knowing her name I had to look her up.
@carl11547
8 ай бұрын
Hoid's old flame has to be proto-Virtuosity. I mean, he, aside from maybe Shallan and Painter, is the protagonist most devoted to the creative arts.
@OminousToast
7 ай бұрын
What if Canticle is someone trying to absorb enough energy to create the long-awaited 17th shard? Kinda like what that other comment said ^^
@TheFlyingP1g
8 ай бұрын
Has anyone considered that adonalsium might not have had a vessel at all. The name ends in “ium”, the common word ending of a god metal
@TheFlyingP1g
8 ай бұрын
It could have just been something in the order of evolution, chaotic and uncontrolled
@avonzapper
7 ай бұрын
That is interesting but I think the fact that the shards of Adonalsium needed someone to control them afterwards is a small point against this. The shards already have intent, and if they existed without a vessel before why would they need them now? This might be a completely wrong interpretation but that's just my thought process. I do think the idea that Adonalsium is some sort of living substance that has no vessel is very interesting. If this is true maybe "Adonalsiumium" has something to do with why dragonsteel is so coveted. I'm just doing random speculation now but I do find your theory very interesting.
@TheFlyingP1g
7 ай бұрын
@@avonzapper perhaps the previous name for adonalsium was dragonsteel?
@TheFlyingP1g
7 ай бұрын
@@avonzapper last thing I wanted to add, what came first? The power or the vessel? Did a god like vessel always exist or was it more like mother nature, just nature acting in it’s unstoppable order and chaos
@mndrew1
8 ай бұрын
Wasn't "The Grand Apparatus" the official name of the big machine in "The Death Gate Cycle"? The one the dwarves called the Kicksy-whimsy.
@jester42100
8 ай бұрын
I came here to ask Argent what the escape room show he is watching. it sound really cool!
@_argent
7 ай бұрын
I don't remember mentioning a show, I am just a fan of escape rooms 😅
@TheAmyrlinSeat
8 ай бұрын
More pan Hoid please.
@mahmodwattar8169
8 ай бұрын
maybe since virtuosity splintered herself nearby cantacle is trying to absorb the splinters?
@UnalloyedLore
7 ай бұрын
did that happen near Canticle? I thought it was close to Nikaro and Yumi's world.
@mahmodwattar8169
7 ай бұрын
@@UnalloyedLore shit the 3 Cosmere books in a year missed with me ya it was near that planet
@LadySym01
7 ай бұрын
Highspren being tied to a fundamental natural law of the world doesn't seem to out of place to me, considering the fact that the connection between windspren and honor spren is pretty out of nowhere as it is.
@IndiaTides
8 ай бұрын
I think it is Dharati( it means earth or soil in many Indian languages). You can pronounce it as "the- rati". If your spelling is correct and it is dahatri then it Can be related to atri the sage in Indian mythology.
@rockon1793
8 ай бұрын
Whimsy for hoid ex starts campaigning now
@Sheija
8 ай бұрын
Mercy could be in the core of Canticle healing from her wound from the fight with Odium and Ambition
@elekbuday81
8 ай бұрын
I might be misremembering my relativity, but I'm pretty sure FTL is only a big threat to causality if there's no "preferred reference frame". Which, in the cosmere, there arguable is: the Spiritual Realm. Anything that *would* break causality has already been mediated by the Spiritual Realm to not do that.
@Pablo360able
8 ай бұрын
But there also can't really *be* a "preferred reference frame" because relativity is weird. Basically he just needs to make sure his handwavium is airtight.
@carl11547
8 ай бұрын
FTL travel by any method allows for causality violation, because it allows for time travel into the past. Brandon has repeatedly refused to rule out pastward time travel.
@oneukum
8 ай бұрын
10:00 Valour. Come on. She still is missing him. 16:00 So how does she become immortal? 28:30 A Shard has the Investiture in enormous quantities. A Shard does not need to collect Investiture. And even if it did, that setup wastes almost all of it. You'd build a hollow shell. Why use a sun for that?
@carl11547
8 ай бұрын
How does the Admiral become immortal? Breath? Becoming an Elantrian? Or ... something we don't even know about yet? Maybe she impressed Honor so much she became a Herald. (OK, no, probably not.)
@TheAmyrlinSeat
8 ай бұрын
@@carl11547 I mean, we aren't very clear on the threnody timeline. Maybe she isn't immortal.
@oneukum
8 ай бұрын
@@carl11547 That replaces one unknown with another. Threnody has no perpendicularity. How would she import Breaths?
@Haxerous
8 ай бұрын
12:15 The aether world name could be Dharti, which means earth. It could also be the Sanskrit root word, Dharitri.
@Homar30
8 ай бұрын
"this is fine" 😂
@pranav12333
8 ай бұрын
Grand apparatus is a Dyson sphere might be canticle
@peacheyfour2009
7 ай бұрын
I personally think gravitationspren is perfect, gravity is a Law after all
@dylanmeldrum6444
8 ай бұрын
In regards to the Hoid havibg dated a Dragon. Why not Frost? Yes, Hoid appears to be straight so far.. But isn't he essentially a bard? An immortal bard that wonders around the Cosmere collecting things. Why not collecting sexualities as he goes along. He certainly has the time for experimentation
@wanderingshade8383
8 ай бұрын
39:30 A Shard cloning itself??
@patrickwallen5065
7 ай бұрын
Do you think that Brandon watches these WOB videos and laughs like a super villain?
@DeadlyLazerpunk
7 ай бұрын
I am a stick!
@KwanzaaJuice
7 ай бұрын
Who's Ruri? Who's Alliandre??
@Hugo-qf1wb
7 ай бұрын
631 !!!!
@CudiBuddy4Life
8 ай бұрын
First one here?
@joeybelasco
7 ай бұрын
CAW
@jacobbrozenick8366
8 ай бұрын
Why is it unfortunate that Hoid isn’t pan?
@TheDiabeticGameMaster
8 ай бұрын
Cuz, it'd be fun and it'd fit with his whimsical character.
@jacobbrozenick8366
8 ай бұрын
I’m sure he can be plenty whimsical as a straight guy.
@TheDiabeticGameMaster
8 ай бұрын
@@jacobbrozenick8366 That's plenty true! But, us gays are greedy! You see, we aren't very used to having a lot of characters that actually represent us in fiction, so, often, whenever we get "the vibe" from a character , fans will often make them gay in their headcannon and slashfics and "claim" them so to speak. It's been going on since Kirk/Spock back in the day and, honestly, probably MUCH longer. It's like how Sanderson wasn't intentionally writing Jasnah as Ace at first but after so many Ace fans got an Ace vibe from her, Sanderson decided he liked it, thought it made sense, and decided to canonize it! Now, I don't think that will happen with Hoid. Hoid is one of his oldest and most dear characters. He knows who Hoid is. But, people love the stories so much that they can't help but hypothesize about them and make up their own versions of the characters to have fun with!
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