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@nomadbrad6391
Жыл бұрын
Why not try and trade Aaron Rogers straight up for Zach Wilson.....Aaron would be walking into a VERY nice situation with the Jets for his FINAL 3 years and the Packers could let Jordan Love battle Zach Wilson....if Zach Wilson fizzles, the Packers GAIN tons of cap space going forward and then let Zach Wilson walk at the end of 2023.
@scourge8097
Жыл бұрын
"The Packers would want 2 1st round picks..." They would? Why? Because PFF said they could still get 2 1sts and 2 2nds for Rodgers? That's ridiculous. A team like the Raiders would be a great fit. You work with Rodgers, you find a place he wants to go and you work out a reasonable trade. The Raiders would EASILY get it done with their 1st...or how about their 2nd plus their 2024 1st? Gives them a year with Rodgers, their own top 10 pick and the Packers get a top 40 pick and a future 1st. Rodgers get Adams, Waller, Renfrow, the Raiders only take on a ~15M cap hit for 2023. They'd have to pick up the 57M option...but they didn't have to pay the signing bonus, so they'd agree. That's just one basic common sense solution off the top of my head. Nobody says they HAVE to get multiple 1sts for him. Hell, the Raiders could trade down to ~20 with a team that wants to move up for a Jalen Carter type and use THAT pick to trade. Any trade would have to take place after June 1st, so the agreement would be in place, and the Raiders would be effectively drafting for the Packers like it were the NBA and JUST like people speculated they were doing when the Broncos took Surtain 2 years ago. Trading Rodgers is NOT unrealistic. Another....how about the Titans? Rodgers has land in Tenn, they've got a nice Defense. How about their 1st for Rodgers? Rodgers is likely playing 2-3 more years and a team that has the talent, but that is lacking a QB could easily trade for him.
@vote_for_pedro2024
Жыл бұрын
I’m so proud that there is a chance my Detroit Lions were last nail in the Packers coffin
@DJ-mf6ft
Жыл бұрын
As a Seahawks fan, we thank you lol
@dapperhobo7264
Жыл бұрын
As a Bears fan I thank you, love to see it!
@1Packersgamer
Жыл бұрын
Well so much next yr ya will go back to being bums
@ifheavenwashuman
Жыл бұрын
Rodgers, and the Packers*
@BussyBop
Жыл бұрын
As a Vikings fan, I thank you
@EasterMegs
Жыл бұрын
As a Packers fan and someone who owns a Rodgers jersey, I hated his attitude in the off-season last year. It seemed like he dangled leaving the team in order to get a massive paycheck, and it really felt like he didn't care about his fans or team at that time. Him leaving a year after getting that deal would be another slap to the face. I think a lot of us are souring on him.
@ericpeterson541
Жыл бұрын
As a packer fan: you couldn’t see that behavior from him for the past few years. Selfish guy.
@championthewonderhorse9733
Жыл бұрын
it got worst when he joined the team only to throw his rookies under the bus and then the coaches. Toxic.
@jameshines6486
Жыл бұрын
Matt Lafleur is the problem.
@choosecarefully408
Жыл бұрын
I have a partial theory. 1) He won once early & tweeted about it. He didn't "feel" it. It didn't matter to him. 2) Caring about _what_ fans? Doesn't anyone remember what disdain & disgust he was treated with before he ever played in a game? 3) Did you hear what he said in the preseason? He suggested to HC Matt Lafleur that they simplify the offense to ease the rookie receivers into the offense & by all accounts, Lafleur's hard drive needed to be rebooted. Then we got nine weeks of boring, insipid football featuring Aaron Rodgers throwing dimes to receivers who dropped them. I've noticed that no one *ever* listens _to_ Aaron Rodgers as a person, but everyone *makes demands of him* all the time. Maybe most QBs are like singers & like the mindless screaming fans but he couldn't care less. His focus was the quality of his work & he couldn't get anyone, fans, coaches or even teammates to have the same priority. I'd feel a bit empty too if my Greatest Accomplishment didn't cause anyone to respect me as a person.
@beastraban9282
Жыл бұрын
Remember he said “ players only come to Green Bay , because of him” Arrogant Rodgers
@adamhart5330
Жыл бұрын
Rodgers attitude has been the biggest problem with the team for 3 years now. The minute anyone else fuks up its like he throws his hands up and says "see what im talking about its everyone else but me" and that doesnt build chemistry with ur teammates. Throwing them under the bus publicly and then having that attitude with the team must really rub ppl the wrong way. Its like he has been in a mental fight with the front office for 3 years now and instead of making the best of it and being a teammate and a Packer its been all about him and how he doesnt have A B or C when he literally takes up more than 1/3 of the entire cap space. On top of it he isnt really sure each year the past 3 years with this melodramatic attitude? Well make ur damn mind up and if chooses to come get that 60 mil again he'd better be all in.
@Captain_Neckbeard
Жыл бұрын
Same as Brady
@CaptainQueue
Жыл бұрын
OK but this year It did come down to one game -- Week 18. Drops of perfect passes, fumbles and stupid penalties by four usually dependable players doomed the Packers season. Everyone would be singing praises of Rodgers and Green Bay if Jones hadn't fumbled in bounds.
@forwheelinallday
Жыл бұрын
That huge contract and subsequent cap hit pretty much ties the Packers hands in what they can do.
@everettcalhoun8197
Жыл бұрын
You dont need to read the tea leaves to understand rodgers. He is in it for the money and will always protect his legacy Detroit new that and exploited his weaknesses.
@stevejarred6484
Жыл бұрын
Hey! Rodgers is a multiple MVP winner so he has a bit of a justification to be a prima Donna. None the less, the past is still the past and Rodger’s “player’s years” are coming to a close: How many more games of Rodgers and the Packers having their butts handed to them before someone in Green Bay says enough is enough?
@stevenvox6549
Жыл бұрын
@@stevejarred6484 They may have to trade him for less than two first round picks. They will be unloading a contract which is holding them back.
@davem5333
Жыл бұрын
It was bad that Watson dropped a cake. I am sure no one feels worse than Watson. What irked me was Rodgers icing Watson, ignoring him for at least the next two games. The best thing would have been redemption. Go back to him and give him another chance.
@rbo7
Жыл бұрын
Stop recycling retarded comments. He had 3 more targets in that very game. And then 3 more targets in EACH of his next 2 games. Did you even watch the games?
@bragdale
Жыл бұрын
I will always agree Rodgers is the most talented QB I've ever seen playing. But he is a hell of an asshole. To me, he hurts the team. I want to see him go.
@rbo7
Жыл бұрын
@@bragdale How is he an ass whole who hurts the team?
@gosseschukken2018
Жыл бұрын
Hell we all saw what he did when rodgers finally trusted him. Imagine if they had him for full potential all season
@willv5158
Жыл бұрын
A few years ago, everyone was saying Crosby was done because he had a bad year. The next year he came back and did an outstanding job. Aaron Rodgers had to deal with rookie receivers, and the Packers tried to tell everyone that Alan Lazard was a #1 receiver. He also had to deal with an offensive line that was not very good. I hope he comes back next year, and see what happens. I went through the 70's and 80's so I know how bad it was. I hope we never go back to that period, but this fire everybody attitude is getting old.
@redbeard2969
Жыл бұрын
An aging QB and an aging kicker are two very different things. That being said, I am biased as a bears fan and hope you are wrong lol
@jamesschenck3786
Жыл бұрын
@Richard Charles how exactly is a team that lost Davante, didn’t gain anything in return to help the team, more talented than last year? The o line was banged up all year and this young receiving group is seriously one of the 3 worst in all of football. They were carried by the defense and run game, and when it mattered most rodgers choked. If you watched the packers this season then you’d know Rodgers was not the same qb as last year, he really did struggle. This year was statistically worse for him than his first year as a starter in 2008, 26 tds to 12 int with a rating of 91. He was missing easy throws, couldn’t hit the deep ball like he always has. That’s not a team thing, that’s a Rodgers thing. As a life long packer fan, it’s time to trade him and go all in on Love. This offense isn’t talented enough to win with a qb being paid the money he’s going to be paid next year especially if he isn’t a top 5 qb anymore.
@cachanillaSMG
Жыл бұрын
No wayyyy you just compared a kicker getting old to a QB getting old
@willv5158
Жыл бұрын
@@cachanillaSMG I didn't compare a kicker to a QB. I was pointing out the ignorance of the so-called fans. GB used to be considered to have some of the most knowledgeable fans in the NFL. Now, todays fans do the wave while the Packers are on offense. Any little hiccup in a players abilities and they want them fired.
@EvanMerkes1
Жыл бұрын
Guess what? The 70's and 80's are here again.
@rhd26
Жыл бұрын
Aaron rodgers is the Kanye west of football
@championthewonderhorse9733
Жыл бұрын
LaFleur is a bad coach. He has been comprehensively outcoached in crunch games and the conduct of Quay Walker, Rasul Douglas, Jarran Reed and Davante Wyatt showed they have no respect for LaFleur and have tuned him out.
@garyhoffman503
Жыл бұрын
Massive Duck 🦆
@IggyPelman
Жыл бұрын
The Packers need to move on from Aaron Rodgers. He's not going to be around for very long even if he does play and, as the man said, he's paid to make things happen. Things didn't happen and he's partially responsible for that. MIA during OTAs and a bit of a prima dona.
@Wolf_3125
Жыл бұрын
How is he supposed to do anything when the front office didn't invest in the offensive line or receiving corps? They wasted a 1st round pick on Jordan Love in draft that featured several prominent receivers. They have several opportunities to draft receivers before that and put all the pressure on Adams. The front office is responsible for this lost season and so is the coaching staff. THEY deserve to be fired!! And that waste of life Jordan Love deserves to be sent to Ukraine!!!
@MyName-pl7zn
Жыл бұрын
Stay or leave Aaron is a boat anchor on the Green bay packers
@dontcare8429
Жыл бұрын
Rogers got you one Superbowl trophy and some participation awards.
@ericglenn9984
Жыл бұрын
The Packers releasing Rodgers and trading their best guys could prove helpful. Build around Jordan Love.
@PackManSports
Жыл бұрын
He can't get released or traded. This is why: kzitem.info/news/bejne/sqWusICCnqx4qmU
@stevejarred6484
Жыл бұрын
Releasing Rodgers and trading good players seems like eating a lot of crow, don’t you think 🤔? As a Detroit fan, I’ve seen too many players leave a Detroit team, the guy becomes a force to be reckoned with and people say: “How could Detroit be so stupid?! What were they thinking 🤔?!”
@Wolf_3125
Жыл бұрын
No
@barstoolentertainment
Жыл бұрын
As a life long Packer fan, I blame the powers that be for the situation. Rodgers was an MVP QB, now he has hit the wall. Some of it has to do with the quality of the receivers, but most of it is with Rodgers motivation. He is a Drama Queen and it is all about him. Time to move on. It sucks that the Packers will be mired in mediocrity, and that is the fault of the management.
@notboblowski0624
Жыл бұрын
🤣😂🤣
@garyhoffman503
Жыл бұрын
BINGO!
@tiggerwoods100
Жыл бұрын
Name one thing he said or did that was all about him?
@barstoolentertainment
Жыл бұрын
@@tiggerwoods100 His holding out and crying about how he has been treated. Then demanding more money or he would retire. All his actions were about him becoming the highest paid QB in the NFL. Now he will drag out the retirement thing. Football is about paying attention to actions not words. If you think Rodgers is some form of saint or blameless, you need to stop drinking Kool Aid.
@sputnikalgrim
Жыл бұрын
I’m a Wisconsinite and yes I’m a lifelong Packer fan. Everyone is making way too much of this. It’s football, teams rise and fall it’s set up that way. Yes his attitude has changed, he’s 40 he’s watched guys come and go, he’s fallen short of expectations, he’s ironically found himself on the other side of the Brett Favre drama… so what, he’ll leave eventually and the Packers will still be here. I wish they’d have won 6 rings with him but it didn’t happen. This organization isn’t ever going to run the way we want it to because there’s no owner that. An make an angry irrational decision and just fire somebody. There’s no fear in the front office, it’s why Joe Barry still has his job. Everyone knows that win or lose the games will be sold out and jerseys are still going to sell.
@xavierdaly5534
Жыл бұрын
@@notboblowski0624 thats what someone from wisconsin is called though
@informanti
Жыл бұрын
@@notboblowski0624 You sound like your mom was one or two cigarettes away from causing you to ride the short bus.
@heath6499
Жыл бұрын
He 39 not 40 fist off
@mrmega6188
Жыл бұрын
U a badger fan too then? Go green 😂
@lucasandroski342
Жыл бұрын
Not reading allat
@lydellb
Жыл бұрын
I'm not a Packers fan but I am a Wisconsinite and this feels exactly like Brett Favre felt. Team is beholden by contract and by legacy to bow down and have to HOPE that the guy retires or someone will take him.
@dumwyteguy
Жыл бұрын
I think you can agree that at least Brett Favre had charisma depsite being a pain to negotiate with. Aaron just seems like a black cloud of pure ego
@gustavosanchezolea
Жыл бұрын
The difference now is we don’t have a quarterback
@gustavosanchezolea
Жыл бұрын
@@dumwyteguy are you on crack, Brett did the same thing
@chuyozuna2398
Жыл бұрын
Curious since you ain’t a packers fan, what team do you root for?
@buzzedaldrin6317
Жыл бұрын
Bter Favre 2: Electric Boogaloo. And I didn't mispell his last name, that's how I spell his first name. He misspelled his last name for 20 years. I say "Bret" is spelled. B TER. Wanna fight about it?
@jppagetoo
Жыл бұрын
Don't sleep on the Bears. They cleared their roster. They now have $150M in cap space. Wow! They have the #1 draft pick. I think they will auction that off to the team who wants the #1QB. The Colts seem like a logical choice to move ahead of the Texans for that QB and can offer the #4 pick as part of any deal. Yeah, the Bears have work to do and likely won't be a great team in 2023, but they can be a vastly different team by 2024, and quite a competative one if their GM can make the right moves. I am not a Bears fan, I am a Lions fan, so I am saying this looking at it from the outside.
@dennismaxwell165
Жыл бұрын
Being a Packer fan, i did watch a lot of Lions games this year. They play hard and have taken a huge step to the next level. Its too bad you guys didnt make the playoffs. The future looks bright
@buchiklop110
Жыл бұрын
I think the Bears are a year away from being a real playoff contender.
@jppagetoo
Жыл бұрын
@@dennismaxwell165 Yeah, it does seem like the darkness that has been over the Lions for a long time is lifting. The Lions just didn't win games this season to make it in. I see a nice young talented team. I see a good coaching staff. It's something to be hopeful about. The Lions do know that expectations are much higher next season. 9-8 won't be good enough.
@bucketboysx3129
Жыл бұрын
I think the lions can certainly be good. My only thing is we have seen flashes of this before. 10-6 stafford years and then back to being shit. The way I see it this year could be a one off for a lot of the not so good orgs. I don’t think Minnesota will be that good next year for example. But with that said hope they do start getting consistent over the next few years.
@busterbrown1686
Жыл бұрын
The future is bright for the Bears and lions. My Bears have their QB1 and The #1 pick and cap space as mentioned. I have to score some tickets next season.
@wpochert
Жыл бұрын
Ya think?? The moment they offered a 38 year old QB who did not want to stay in GB $150 million guaranteed it was all over.... its not the Matt LeFLuer era that's the problem in the playoffs.. its the Aaron Rodgers era.
@kesleycottrell1416
Жыл бұрын
The Packers can fix their problem by getting rid of Rodgers. His own ego does not allow him to be a team player.
@HayabusaRyu
Жыл бұрын
The Colts would give up multiple draft picks for a 39 year old Rodgers.
@fionnmaccurtain8896
Жыл бұрын
If I were them,I’d trade Rodgers for good picks,draft offensive players and trust Jordan Love.
@smnbrgss
Жыл бұрын
But as was said earlier in the video. Who would take a 40 year old qb who is very much on a downward trend?
@fionnmaccurtain8896
Жыл бұрын
@@smnbrgss I get that but there will definitely be a desperate team that will take him.
@jaehong1029
Жыл бұрын
should have done what Seahawks did last offseason
@adammcintyre3532
Жыл бұрын
Honestly, as crazy as it sounds, trade him for whatever you can get. Just focus on the AFC. Better to get something and have him off the books, than to pay him to retire. If Tua can't come back, the Dolphins would take him for the right price. The Jets would also be happy to take him for a 1st. Not sure if he would want to go to NYJ, but I am sure he would love to go to south beach and throw to Tyreek and Waddle.
@thomasheller1526
Жыл бұрын
Great QB. One SB, move on to the next.
@christopherangeli8847
Жыл бұрын
I tried to warn my fellow Packer fans the trend would continue with playoffs, Lambeau and Lafleur all failing to show up. We scored one touchdown in two games against a team with barely average defense.
@yaakovurow1321
Жыл бұрын
Bottom five
@tomcollins5112
Жыл бұрын
Stats can be misleading. Aiden Hutchinson makes the Lions defense better than it looks on paper. The primary reason why the Packers lost to the Lions was because of his play. It makes me believe the Packers should draft an offensive tackle with their first pick. If they can't block Hutchinson the Lions will sweep them again next season.
@hangguy209
Жыл бұрын
For almost 30 years, Packers has been spoiled with Favre and Rodgers. Now they will finally get to witness a rebuild. Imagine a team playing poorly like Houston Texans, but is called the Green Bay Packers. That's scary because in my lifetime I've never seen such a thing.
@JDBass36
Жыл бұрын
@@hangguy209 The sad part of 30 years of Elite HOF QB play and only 2 Super Bowls and Damm! That kinda sucks in a way
@tomcollins5112
Жыл бұрын
@@hangguy209 I don't think they need a complete rebuild. They've got the foundation for a successful next season. All they really need is some better talent on the o-line.
@vangavenrobles7238
Жыл бұрын
Trading Love away will be a huge mistake that will haunt them in the future
@crzzymnn911
Жыл бұрын
I completely and utterly disagree. Trading up to sign him just to have him as a backup for 3 years was the mistake. Im sure Love WANTS to be traded. All his draft mates are starters while he watches from the sideline as his career passes him by. I dont think Love will ever be a starter for the Packers.
@Knjo0101
Жыл бұрын
Most of what was said here I agree with, but I disagree with the receiver corp assessment. While it certainly was not great Christian Watson looks like he has a chance to become a solid receiver. He is in contention for offensive rookie of the year.
@jawsome1826
Жыл бұрын
Not to mention he was hurt for the first half the season 💀💀
@ItsJust-Tra
Жыл бұрын
He is not in contention for rookie of the year. No where near it. Please see G. Wilson, C. Olave, K Pickett, or K. Walker. He had a good November and he has potential but that’s it.
@Luka-ft1vv
Жыл бұрын
I agree, but at the same time having a rookie who's dropping a lot of balls be your #1 receiver was a big issue this season. No disrespect to Watson, he's a rookie and did a hell of a job, but if he split targets with someone who could've caught those balls would've been a difference between 8-9 and an easy playoff entry.
@Knjo0101
Жыл бұрын
@@ItsJust-Tra I certainly agree that those names you listed are also in the mix. I very much disagree that he is flat out not being considered. I am not saying he should or will get it just that he certainly is worthy of being considered. In the end I think Walker will end up getting it.
@terry7907
Жыл бұрын
Watson came on in the last part of the year, which coincided with the Packer surge. He was not showing up-literally, since he was injured part of the time-when the Packers were going, what, 4-8?
@VinceLyle2161
Жыл бұрын
It's weird how Packers fans and commentators talk about high expectations for the team. Brett Favre won exactly one Super Bowl, as did Rogers. So in 30 years of excellent, Hall of Fame quarterback play, the Packers have two Super Bowl wins to show for it. Yes, they've been good for three decades, but in that period, the Ravens, Steelers, Giants, and Tampa Bay have also won two Super Bowls without the level of QB talent. The Ravens had Trent Dilfer and Joe Flacco. The Steelers had young Big Ben, who in each of their SB seasons had 17 TD passes. The Giants had Eli Manning, who will always be Peyton's kid brother, and Tampa Bay had Tom Brady for one season and BRAD JOHNSON for the other. It's okay to have expectations. Everybody does. But in the era of Favre and Rogers, only one team could have had legitimate expectations of going to the Super Bowl every year: the Patriots. The dynasty is real, and Rogers more so than Favre has had to deal with it. The Pats have kept rings off a lot of talented fingers. Bottom line: the Packers have a chance to be good for as long as Rogers stays. Once he's gone, there will be years of rebuilding, which will be helped by the cap space Rogers' departure frees up. But at this point, the Packers and those who watch them can have no expectation of postseason success. And that's been the case for a while. Remember, a couple of those 13-3 seasons were not ridiculously strong. In one, people were saying the same thing about the Packers that people were saying about the Vikings this year: soft and lucky. And of course, the Patriots were always waiting for them. Packers fans have had the chance to watch two of the best QBs ever, and Green Bay has been relevant for 30 years, after languishing for 20 years after the Lombardi era. Plus, two Super Bowls (which is more than say, the Vikings can say). The last 30 years have been a win, but by no means have the tenures of the two great quarterbacks been a dynasty. Just consistently good football. You'd think that would be enough.
@kennytoce5946
Жыл бұрын
I appreciate the stillshot of josh in the beginning, u know how to please viewers
@Pr0guY1
Жыл бұрын
This team needs to move on from Arod ASAP
@ifheavenwashuman
Жыл бұрын
No way Rodgers comes back to Green Bay. Best for both sides to move on. Can't see how you can stomach another season of a disgunttled Rodgers. Can't see how Rodgers can commit to a team that refuses to make the necessary moves to make themselves true Super Bowl contenders. There's no upside in staying in this situation.
@gove4103
Жыл бұрын
It was either too many enemas or not enough enemas. It's tough to tell.
@avacadomangobanana2588
Жыл бұрын
I think over the off season you should take some time to attempt long form, researched topics. This weekly updates have been great but you have the talent to be a Jon Bois/ Brett Koleman type if you honed some skills and did some collaborations. Just something to consider
@thetk9145
Жыл бұрын
Yea I don't want think guy to turn into the next j&p
@trewilliams3453
Жыл бұрын
He’s different tho he may not wanna be like them you know. I actually enjoy every video he drops. !
@FootballAnalysis1
Жыл бұрын
Being mentioned with those guys (especially Brett) is very humbling!! There are big plans for the offseason and I can’t wait to share with you guys!
@xvsj-s2x
Жыл бұрын
Interesting breakdown Homie 🏈 knowing when you’re on top, and when to leave the party, are key for personal success 👍❤✌️
@cut1986
Жыл бұрын
He's not on top....
@TimothyMichaels
Жыл бұрын
Not a Packers fan, but can't wait to see how this plays out.
@bradschneider9311
Жыл бұрын
I feel like Packers fans are the ones who don’t want to see it play out…
@mr.football6078
Жыл бұрын
The Packers seasons was on the mud even before its start. They let Adams gone and spent two first round pick on defensive players instead of take a WR. They did everything wrong and now, their future will be hard. Part ways with Rodgers would be the best solution for both, but his contract make it impossible. Packers had two of best QBs ever and won just 2 super bowls. What a waste of talent
@smasher101101
Жыл бұрын
This year started with low expectations imo. the young and gutted receiving core gave me little hope. But although many games were sad to watch I enjoyed watching my team come out there with a chip on their shoulder in the last weeks of the year and make it interesting. Many teams don’t have an opportunity to make every week meaningful and GB did that for me. Not ideal but exactly why I wear Rodgers.
@adamhart5330
Жыл бұрын
hall of fame QB skips OTA's and then literally cries every time his rookie receivers can't read his mind. Rodgers is the biggest problem on the team by far and the dude can't even see it. Delusional. GB needs to move on from Rodgers like they did Favre. Rodgers thinks its his decision to make whether he comes back and Pack is just gonna be like nah dude you want your locker though?
@DizmalxD
Жыл бұрын
Aye man football is football. Gotta love it either way it goes. Super Bowl still gonna get played and we’ll all be watching it with our family and friends. More to it then just winning. All love for the football community ❤️
@Ken_Scaletta
Жыл бұрын
They didn't have a chip against the Lions. The Lions showed what a chip looks like.
@notboblowski0624
Жыл бұрын
🤣😂🤣
@angusmackaskill3035
Жыл бұрын
Thank Aaron for all he has done for us. Wish him well in his future endeavors. Let's see what JLove has.
@notboblowski0624
Жыл бұрын
🤣😂😅
@graham5990
Жыл бұрын
Love is going to be booty cheeks
@Davini994
Жыл бұрын
It's upsetting, but you aren't wrong. 100 million to cut him! Maybe we'll take a cheaper trade. What a donut he's been in retrospect. All that mucking about, with all that talent. He really hasn't led the team like say Brady has. The team have let him down badly over the years too. All in all, what a mess, without a Superbowl for a decade.
@a2zz-gk197
Жыл бұрын
L take through and through
@notboblowski0624
Жыл бұрын
yeah Green Bay has been trash for a while now
@keithroute8906
Жыл бұрын
He needs to be traded for anything they can get for him. A first round pick would be lucky.
@Spongebrain97
Жыл бұрын
I wonder if the Raiders would do so because they have a first round pick, Rodgers would be reunited with Davonte and are desperate to make the playoffs
@PackManSports
Жыл бұрын
He can't get traded. This is why: kzitem.info/news/bejne/sqWusICCnqx4qmU
@notboblowski0624
Жыл бұрын
@@Spongebrain97 lawl didn't Devontae leave green bay to get away from Rodgers?
@BigDingDongers
Жыл бұрын
@@notboblowski0624no because all they would be able to offer him is like franchise tag money cuz Rodgers took 99.9% of the money
@RCSTILE
Жыл бұрын
Rogers and the Packers problems are all on Rogers. His demand for the ridiculous salary he got this year was the reason why he had no seasoned receivers. There was no money to pay them. So boo -hoo-hoo
@detectiveharris8772
Жыл бұрын
Its always been like that
@QwertyCaesar
Жыл бұрын
The Packers will never win the big game with LaFleur at coaching. That gutless *and* thoughtless call in the 2020 NFCC proved that.
@Timothy.365
Жыл бұрын
Take the hit! It will suck, but AA-Ron isn’t worth the headache! The rest of the team isn’t that bad, trade who you can, get any compensation you can get and realize you may not continue like you did with Farve to Rodgers.
@commenterlafleur4226
Жыл бұрын
Jaire has to go. Get a good haul for him.
@jaydendoucette1347
Жыл бұрын
@@commenterlafleur4226why does Jaire have to go? The Packers don’t really have any other good CB’s, and Jaire has meant so much to this team for so long.
@commenterlafleur4226
Жыл бұрын
@@jaydendoucette1347 The Packers have no other players worth anything.
@adamhart5330
Жыл бұрын
Hall of fame QB cries and says he needs talent everywhere on the field or he's gonna have one foot out the pool the whole year and blame everyone else but myself.
@jaydendoucette1347
Жыл бұрын
@@commenterlafleur4226 Adrian Amos, DeVondre Campbell, Aaron Jones, Kenny Clark are all nice players. The Pack defense is Super Bowl ready, the offense is not.
@Steven-zg5bq
Жыл бұрын
60 mill QB scoring 16 pts in do or die at home.........3rd string qb scores 31 with dolphins.....time to rebuild!!!!!!
@jim6161
Жыл бұрын
Roger's wants top notch receivers. But us unwilling to take a pay cut so that they can afford them. Forcing them to go bargain basement shopping. Then top it off with Roger's not working with his new receivers did not help.
@williamludlow3788
Жыл бұрын
I couldn't believe the Seahawks traded Russell Wilson.
@Doc_Tar
Жыл бұрын
Most experts had their season ended before Thanksgiving. Seems to me they were ending the year strong until Detroit's weakest unit (the defense) out played the Packers weakest unit (the offense).
@MallPeaMallCow
Жыл бұрын
Most experts also had them winning the division. Vegas had them at 11.5 wins for 2022. This team under performed and is overrated.
@Doc_Tar
Жыл бұрын
@@MallPeaMallCow I guess it all depends on what you see with a glass when the water in it is at the halfway mark.
@nicholassmith479
Жыл бұрын
They had Jordan Love and they chose to be held hostage to legacy instead.
@oldguysrock2170
Жыл бұрын
I am a 49ers fan. How about GB trade for Trey Lance! Lance and Love, two QBs who never play.
@Wolf_3125
Жыл бұрын
I would trade Jordan Love for a day old turkey sandwich. What a waste of a pick.
@oldguysrock2170
Жыл бұрын
@@Wolf_3125 : We will never know about Love. As long as the Narcissist Rodgers is on the roster, no back up QB will play. Rodgers does not even like to be pulled when Green Bay has a big lead. He does not like to play in preseason games. Look at Green Bay’s last two opening season games, both losses. His ego hurts the team, but he has one Super Bowl in like 20 years as a QB but lots of MVPs.
@nicholassmith479
Жыл бұрын
@@Wolf_3125 You do not like turkey sandwiches, do you?
@desiderious1
Жыл бұрын
The biggest mistake Green Bay made was keeping Aaron Rodgers then paying him huge money that hurt their ability to attract quality talent because of the salary cap. Now they are stuck with an over the hill and overpaid quarterback with a dark future.
@Black_Adam911
Жыл бұрын
Green Bay Packers are in no man's land. Needed to start rebuilding this season. But the rebuild has been delayed by about 3-4 years because of cap space and Rodgers' salary. Packers tried doing two things at once. Can't dole out tons of money on aging declining players and fool yourselves into thinking you're a Superbowl contending team while playing untested drafted players. This needs to be blown up. Oh, and I'm a Packers fan, 34 years now.
@JohnnyAllenwrench
Жыл бұрын
The blame goes everywhere but not enough people talking about how GM Brian Gutekunst failed Rodgers and this Franchise. Got lucky on the douglas and campbell signings, refuses to sign or attempt to get offensive skill positions, throws veteran minimums at any player that openly wants to come to green bay, the list goes on. He has to go!!
@903lew
Жыл бұрын
I do wonder why he only can offer veteran minimum contracts, what happened to all their cap space?
@detectiveharris8772
Жыл бұрын
Who has taken up all of their cap space the last 10 years?
@JohnnyAllenwrench
Жыл бұрын
@@903lew considering we offered #17 more money and he still left ta Vegas all that cap space talk is irrelevant. Overpaid Campbell signed Sanmy Watkins instead of OBJ literally nothing you can pull up supports Gutekunst still being capable of running a team
@903lew
Жыл бұрын
@@JohnnyAllenwrench Not saying he is, just stating that Rodgers contract is going to be an albatross around GBs neck for a long time. Can't complain about not having any recievers when your own cap hit is 30+ milli/year. Giving him the 2018 contract is the front offices worst mistake, the 2022 contract was just sad.
@903lew
Жыл бұрын
@@detectiveharris8772 There's been this one guy on 13-18% of their cap for a while now. Can't remember the name...
@hieunguyen-ie5io
Жыл бұрын
All you have to do is kick this mouthy , overrated, overpaid QB , that would open the door for young people to compete. He has gotten hundreds & hundreds millions from Green Bay anyway, it's time for him to pack up & go waisting the money that he got .
@stevenheminger5539
Жыл бұрын
The thing is the Packers receivers will be better next year that unit had to gell, Aaron should have been working with the young guys during the off season
@KazeShikamaru
Жыл бұрын
The Packers are fucked and I love it as a Bears fan. I do think you are taking it easy on Matt though. I think he is kind of overrated because he has all this talent and has no ring to show for it and if you watch their games. His game management isn't always the best and the play calling has been questionable at times. I also wonder if he discipline guys because you can't have a player pushing trainers twice in a season. So I question his leadership skills. He is better than their last coach but I do think the FO just can't think they can just derp their way to a super bowl on talent alone and not looking at the big picture. They need to answer these questions. Is Rodgers gonna keep declining? Is it time to move on from Jones? Is Matt Lefluer a coach that can get us to a super bowl? This isn't as cut and dry as some think. I think they really need to think about this as they can't just walk over everyone in the division.
@narski82
Жыл бұрын
Yeah just like Bears fans said for years just wait until Favre retires and Green Bay sucks. How did that work out?
@dennismaxwell165
Жыл бұрын
@@narski82 All they got is how about those 85 Bears, they still suck just like theyre fans
@TruthLivesNow
Жыл бұрын
Going into this game the Packers were 8-8 and the Lions were 8-8. The amazing thing to consider is that the Lions had already been eliminated from the playoffs by losing to the Seahawks during the regular season by a 48-45 game. To lose this important game to the Lions 20-16 really does confirm that the Green Bay Packers are in serious trouble! Some have talked about the Raiders being stupid enough to trade Darek Carr for Aaron Rodgers, and Mark Davis and Josh McDaniels may be Stupid enough to do that. The Offensive Line of the Raiders is TERRIBLE, the defense is TERRIBLE, and the Head Coach Josh McDaniels is TERRIBLE. Rodgers is smart enough to retire before playing a single down with that trade!
@rodrigodemiguellamminen5244
Жыл бұрын
I don't understand how the Packers wouldn't trade him for pretty much anything. You mention that nobody would offer two FRPs, but why would the Packers not accept just one? If they're hoping he retires, they might as well take anything in a trade, or am I missing something?
@yetispaghetti37
Жыл бұрын
I agreed with everything you said but man, "this receiving corps is not good"... what? Lol. Watson could be elite next season. Doubs has very high potential and will likely be a really good wr next year. Lazard is a great #3. Cobb or Toure is at the very least a decent #4. And who's to say we don't draft or sign one this off-season?
@Kt31821
Жыл бұрын
Watson WILL be elite. Trust on that. Doubs will be good as the #2, Lazard is likely gone, but i wouldn’t be mad at us getting a slot receiver in the first or a TE. Then our offense would really be dangerous and it won’t even matter if Rodgers is the one throwing the ball.
@calebwinfield1403
Жыл бұрын
How hilarious would it be if Love lead them to multiple SBs after Rodgers is gone
@michaelevenhouse2435
Жыл бұрын
as a bears fan not hilarious at all
@allenlong3690
Жыл бұрын
If they keep Love around.
@patrickjames6748
Жыл бұрын
@@michaelevenhouse2435 lol funny
@emptyhand777
Жыл бұрын
More funny would be keeping Rodgers and hovering around .500 the next 2 seasons after trading Love for a 2nd or 3rd round pick and then Love wins multiple Super Bowls. THAT would be hilarious.
@comic-nick
Жыл бұрын
Not hilarious if you root for another team in the NFC North
@packers12to80
Жыл бұрын
There are a few teams....the jets would gladly take him.....Miami too.
@broizon205
Жыл бұрын
As a Packers fan, this team has no future, this team and franchise are dead. Sure, we have talented pieces, but if we can’t learn from mistakes, and if we continue to have the worst consistency and mentality in the league, then all our talent is useless.
@rickmurillo6857
Жыл бұрын
Maybe mention he had a broken thumb since week 5??? I don't know seems like a pretty big thing to just leave out in regards to Rodger's play. We have 31 mil in dead cap regardless of what happens. If he is traded or retires it jumps to 40.3.
@Zaag17
Жыл бұрын
Praying on the Packers Downfall 🙏
@marksauck8481
Жыл бұрын
Green Bay also has salary cap problems. So does Minnesota. Detroit has a great chance here to take over and dominate the division for some time now. Next year is going to be very interesting.
@patrickroe3260
Жыл бұрын
The worst thing the Packers did wrong is pay Rogers so much that they didn't have money for other good players, especially receivers.
@jonathanrangel7036
Жыл бұрын
I’m just gonna wait and see what happens, there are some crazy smart people behind the scenes who can work numbers in crazy ways.
@stevejarred6484
Жыл бұрын
This implosion couldn't have happened to a more deserving football team! It was like the Packers commited every stupid play in one game than the Lions have in the last 40+ years and the Packers screwed up Lions style!
@neverknow69
Жыл бұрын
omg 80 freaking million for 3 guys to play a game.
@dawnr7798
Жыл бұрын
I’m still upset about losing Adams. It seems that was a huge blow that didn’t help us this season. (I edited to take out MVS, although I didn’t like losing him I don’t believe it hurt us).
@chrisself
Жыл бұрын
Not too worried about valdez-scantling
@toddhampton5513
Жыл бұрын
Adams didn’t want to be here so he forced the trade. The management pissed him off.
@HeHateMe1
Жыл бұрын
Adams wanted out and MVS was overpaid with an 11mil cap hit this season
@stonetank7455
Жыл бұрын
You should be more upset about Aaron Rodgers not working with the new receivers in the OTAs because I promise that didn't help you this season, either.
@dawnr7798
Жыл бұрын
@@stonetank7455 true very true. Aaron is becoming a diva and I don’t like that either.
@Dis-Emboweled
Жыл бұрын
The one thing that doesn't show up on highlight reels is how freaking often A-Aron threw at receivers feet this year. Did MVP stand for Most Valued Pediatrist?
@chuyozuna2398
Жыл бұрын
This was the first time I’ve seen Aaron Rodgers look very average. Sure he’s not washed but he certainly didn’t look like the deep ball threat he normally is.
@eredinbreaccglas3935
Жыл бұрын
Doesn't matter anymore. I already knew this is going happen, as Arod coming down as to aging and guarantee to a fat contract while he's milking that money, this is the end of packers playoff reign and Arod football career is coming to an end. Whatever the future holds, we have to move forward and wish Arod the best, he gave and did everything he can for the packers, he won 1 super bowl and its not like his legacy is tarnish forever. He's a future hall of famer.
@babycakes1402
Жыл бұрын
He took us to ONE super bowl, back in 2010... What has he done since??? NOTHING! Time for him to go. The packers have this annoying habit of keeping 'fan favorites' around too long & this includes the coaching staff as well. It's a business, do the job you're hired for, no Rodgers, you were hired as a PLAYER, not coaching staff... Do your job or be gone, just like any other business that's NOT nationally televised.
@JaxonSmithers
Жыл бұрын
He's basically 40 years old. Most players can't stay on top of their game past 37 or 38, they start a rapid decline, it is what it is. Brady is an exception, but he's been slowing down a lot lately.
@Drew-oq6eq
Жыл бұрын
Lambeau Field bring your cardboard for seating and standing from freezing to death cheeseheads. What a special place.
@prime-rib
Жыл бұрын
Nobody knows if Lafleur is a good coach or not. He had 3 years of MVP caliber QB play and, shall we say, "generous" officiating. I could have coached that team. Well, this year they got neither of those things and earned a losing record. Next year is likely to be a disaster. They have no idea if Rogers is going to play. They have no idea if Love is the QB of the future, yet have to make a 5th year option decision on him. Then, there's the fact that this year's draft is supposedly stacked with QB talent. I would not be shocked if they take another QB in the first round. Oh yes, this offseason is going to be fun to watch.
@AcidWords1
Жыл бұрын
1. I believe Aaron will retire, just based on body language, but he looked like a guy saying goodbye. 2. The Vikings are a very fake 13-3, and nearing the end of their window. 3. The defense was showing signs towards the end but I believe the offense's inability to stay on the field wore them down. Though we still need to get stouter against the run. 4. Aaron Rodgers is the problem. His attitude is bad for team spirit, and he does clam up in big games. His leaving will be the real test of Matt LaFleur's coaching tenure, and I believe what the team needs. Not to say, I hate Rodgers, I've enjoyed watching him play, but his ego issues were okay when he was an all star QB, he is not anymore. He is very good, but not worth the baggage and paycheck.
@kingrodney441
Жыл бұрын
I love it, win games and play great and no one cares about your attitude, second you become the problem all the things people never liked about you come to light 🤣🤣🤣. If you were brave enough to call him out when he was winning MVPs then all power to you but if not it will come off as turning your back on him while he's down
@derekavery-patz4010
Жыл бұрын
I agree. Compare and contrast the Thompson McCarthey vs Gutekunsk-Lafleur. I think Thompson and McCarthy had way more success and better drafts.
@mgtowlegion652
Жыл бұрын
We should have traded Rodgers to Denver. We could have gotten at least 3 first thunderstorms picks for him now We can't get anything
@chuniquepaceno470
Жыл бұрын
What I don't get is why the Packers would have to insist on high draft picks for Rogers...why not just take a second-rounder for appearance sake and be done with him since it's obviously time to move on Rogers? Is there some rule that requires the Packers to get a bunch of high picks? When the Seahawks unloaded Russell Wilson, the assumption was that it was the team that was holding Russell back and that he would go elsewhere and continue to flourish. As reality set in, such was not the case, but that was not readily apparent at the time and EVERYONE thought that Denver was getting a steal instead of being the suckers.
@ProfessorDisaray
Жыл бұрын
One of the biggest choke jobs ever. Green Bay destroyed Minnesota 41-17 the week prior. Then they played Detroit at Lambeau Field and lost 16-20, Green Bays defensive line kept Detroit in the game with very stupid penalties which knocked them out of the playoffs. 🤣😂
@colinscanlon609
Жыл бұрын
I think this is a bit of an overreaction to a team that almost made the playoffs after such a terrible start to the season. Rodgers is old but 1 year off of back to back mvp seasons with young receivers is really not that worrying. I am worried for what the packers do after Rodgers retires and how they build from that but this seems too early to start the alarms.
@yaakovurow1321
Жыл бұрын
Facts
@ChairYogaForTheAgeless
Жыл бұрын
agree.
@everettknight9488
Жыл бұрын
I love the Packers ,ever since Mean Joe Greene commercial,the difference was he was promoting unity,not his opinions on COVID 24/7 vaccinations and it showed up on the field 🏑 PERIOD.
@responsiblejerk2328
Жыл бұрын
Not sure why everyone is so down on the Packers. Last February everyone thought this season was going to be a bust anyway. I don't think Rodgers is to blame. You can't expect MVP numbers EVERY year. I put way more blame on coaching.
@coachking2398
Жыл бұрын
It’s Jordan Love season I don’t know what the hell he talking about.
@ChairYogaForTheAgeless
Жыл бұрын
I totally disagree with your analysis. What those last four games before the Detroit game told me is the problem is not talent but focus and that is coming from the coaching. What I saw was a total team effort that I had not seen in years for those 4 games. The defense held Minnesota on the goal line for 3 downs and forced a field goal which also leads me to question why they went for it on 4th down from their 30. Lafleur seemed to feel that 1/2 yard is automatic. It is not. You don't do that. Aaron Rodgers is still their best bet and for the money that is the best way to go. The last few years they played well and lost in the playoffs. This year no playoffs . Maybe that will be the incentive to be focused next year. Losing can be a good thing if it motivates.
@CaptainQueue
Жыл бұрын
Yep.
@talesfromthetrip
Жыл бұрын
The Green Bay Packers are the worst best organization in football
@jeffmonaghan
Жыл бұрын
Rodgers will be back next year in Green Bay. He is under contract. He wants the money. And he is still capable of winning.
@dynamite6507
Жыл бұрын
You could trade him for (1) 1st rounder (1) 2nd and a contingent 2nd. Plus the cap won't affect you as much. There is no trade clause for him. The sooner they do it the better. They need to get Jordan Love busy and great line and one or 2 weapons at wr's. They will be alright. The buccs would be a great spot.
@thomasconrad_2754
Жыл бұрын
as a packers fan idk i love rodgers and watching him play but also we are going to end up paying him to much for what he can give and i want him to retire but at the same time i don’t bc ik that he is such a huge piece to the team and their success. idk i don’t want to trade him bc we won’t get much back but i want him to retire or play and make the decision soon so our team can either go into win now or build around love
@jimfarrell7196
Жыл бұрын
The only people that don’t recognize the fact that Rodgers is done are LaFleur and the Packers front office. It’s time to bite the bullet and move on. Rodgers is no Brady, not even close.
@user-nd7rd8jo6h
Жыл бұрын
Love how 2020 is Matt's fault even though Rodgers is the one who didn't run on that 3rd down. He could have easily picked up enough yards to make that manageable 4th down, and if they failed, back up Brady and the bucs on like the 3yd line. Instead, he throws a pass that had no business being attempted. The FG kick was not a bad move considering the Packers literally had 3 straight turnovers, and the Defense was getting shit done to even keep Rodgers in that game that should have been a blowout. Brady makes a fantastic throw, and they go on to win, but if Brady doesn't, they punt the ball back with plenty of time left on the clock to score 6. It's not ideal, but Rodgers not running it on 3rd is why that was an option. However, Rodgers raced to that podium and made sure to rube the blame all over the coach... Matt doesn't throw passes into the dirt... Rodgers did.
@cgirl111
Жыл бұрын
If you are spending that much of your cap on the QB that QB can't expect to have Pro Bowl type weapons.
@khalilscott3921
Жыл бұрын
Yeah it’s going to be a depressing for Packers fan next season
@brianmurphy9935
Жыл бұрын
The trade scenario made 0 sense. If they wanted to move on from him, why would they demand 2 first round picks? That's an incorrect assumption that makes your whole argument fall apart.
@tommynguyen8942
Жыл бұрын
I like the excuse how not so good receiving core is for Roger or any qb that’s deemed to be great but shit on DJ of the Giants.
@Wolf_3125
Жыл бұрын
The organization failed Rodgers. Refusing to draft receivers and offensive lineman when they had several opportunities to do so and wasting a 1st round pick on Jordan Love in a WR heavy draft is the reason why this season was a failure. Jordan Love is a waste of life.
@brianpeterson6976
Жыл бұрын
I have a feeling that some of this can be attributed to the coach, yes Rodgers is a major part however three straight seasons with M.L. isn't helping IMO.
@pasm05
Жыл бұрын
There is zero accountability in green bay. How many more decisive games MLF has to loose? Gutekunst has destroyed draft classes year after year and Mark Murphy does absolutely nothing
@juwankane5150
Жыл бұрын
I don’t want this to come off the wrong way but I think this was a kinda half-baked analysis and you could do better. You say there’s issues with the defence yet don’t really touch on what those were other than “they’re average, here’s the stats”. You rightly criticise LaFleur and the coaching staff without going into why they deserve that criticism further than, bad loss bad time. WHY is it happening and is it all on LaFleur? You fucking nailed the cap situation but even then you could dive much deeper. I don’t think the Packers are coming close to a Super Bowl for a number of years but I really don’t believe the situation is as dire as all that. There will undoubtedly be a down year coming but there’s definitely hope to be had. On offense, Doubs looked like a solid possession receiver, Watson was a genuine deep threat. I imagine they go receiver again in the draft and that room looks a hell of a lot better then. The Tight End situation is genuinely dire tbf. Tongan looks a shell, Lewis is almost certainly retiring and Deguara is more of a full back, utility guy. The O Line has 2 genuine all-pros in Jenkins and Bakh. Tom seems to be a massive hit. There’s depth in Nijman (RFA) and Runyan. Myers is concerning to me but they’ve persisted with him and a third year jump isn’t out of the question. Jones probably comes back and Dillon is a solid all round back. Love has the tools to take over and I’m a believer but I do think Rodgers is back for one more year so it will be a shame to not see him with the keys. If he does get the chance with Rodgers retiring, he’ll be a very solid QB in the LaFleur system. He looked great against the Eagles (one drive), was very solid in preseason and I think his last season deputy job against KC was extremely admirable in really tough circumstances. Either way there’s consistency at QB. This offence probably gets better not worse next year (although it’s likely more of the same…) The defence is maddening. The coordinator is awful and probably isn’t getting sacked if LaFleur is to be taken at face value. There’s 2 talented first round rookies already on the roster, one that loses his head and one that only played late on in the season. Stokes should be coming back and hopefully pushes on. Jaire is that guy but gets played 8 yards off when he’s a menace in press man. Gary is a legit All Pro talent but has an ACL year which is worrying. TJ Slaton is solid, Clark is legit. Safety is the major issue here. Savage is not the guy we thought he was and Amos looks like he’s lost a step. I see this being an average unit again with some vague/naive hope that Barry finds a way to not suck in situational situations. LaFleur has earned the chance to go on into the post Rodgers era. The losses are bad but not always on him, and 3 13 win seasons are better than some franchises have had in the last 20 years. The best year was when Rodgers played the Shanahan ball properly. Gute will be defined by Love and his success but he’s been a great GM all things considered. I just don’t think it will be a spiral downwards in the next few years. At worst it will be a holding the ship together whilst the cap recovers, and then a good team should emerge from the ashes in 3 years time.
@wendyphillips5002
Жыл бұрын
I grew up in northeastern wisconsin in Brown county in the town of Preble. I need and want to see the packers win and go to superbowls. However, it is the packer offense that has changed in many ways not just rodgers getting one more year older. The offense had great trouble converting 3rd downs to first downs. There is something wrong that brought them to a 4 wins and 8 losses record. Those 4 straight wins raised our hopes too high. The loss against the Lions was crushing. The packer back up quarter back is somewhat unreliable. The packers need a high draft pick for a quarterback in the future. Where do we get the next Rodgers, Favre, or Bart Star for the next 10 to 15 years?
@lawrencefranck9417
Жыл бұрын
If he retires after 6/1/23 the forty million would be split over two season. Essential you’d have 26 million a year for two years for Jordan Love. Not an expensive quarterback room.
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