Terrific video, covered the history better then many film professors I've had.
@DillonTrinhProductions
5 жыл бұрын
is that bad?
@Xitaychin
5 жыл бұрын
On the contrary - good.
@tomiemyspace5054
4 жыл бұрын
@@DillonTrinhProductions Bad ... very bad for the professor
@fanboydee
10 жыл бұрын
I looked at Battleship Potempkin while I was studying, and this 15 minute video made me appreciate it more than a couple of hours of lectures and seminars.
@PaulKretz
4 жыл бұрын
1:36 I graduated from Russian State Social University just across the road (no more than 100 meters really) from this building (ВГИК)! And *I often walked there by with my mates* ... That was around a decade before I got interested in filmmaking... What a life twist that I'm now watching this =)
@rolinychupetin
10 жыл бұрын
Amazing! WOW, I wish I had had you Mr. Hess as my cinematographic history teacher back in the day. I find myself watching this video twice, thrice even. Thank you so much.
@tommythailand5878
5 жыл бұрын
Great video
@siliconbrush
10 жыл бұрын
Your understanding of the history and art of editing is stunning, will recommend you to all my filmmaker friends
@lighthackerslimited
10 жыл бұрын
Have to say, I just came upon this channel and from the few videos I have watched thus far, it is seriously well produced. Keep up the good work.
@serc_
8 жыл бұрын
You guys are crazy for releasing these videos for free! They're too good to be free.
@brianstraight9308
10 жыл бұрын
Fascinating video! And here I thought "montage" was all about showing a character trying on a variety of wacky outfits while set to popular music.
@FilmmakerIQ
10 жыл бұрын
Brian Straight well it still is by the strictest definition ;)
@FenceDaGreat
10 жыл бұрын
Haha, glad you finally see the potential of montage. There are different types of montage. The kind you described is what I like the call the "Rocky montage". Rapid editing used to convey long (in the case of Rocky, EXTREMELY long) spans of time while only showing parts of a time frame which could be a couple hours to a couple months. The type of montage you described is perfectly legitimate (within the real of those who believe in montage), regardless of how ridiculous the circumstances are. I'm gonna go out on a limb here and guess you're referring to some sort of low-budget/quality teen flick.
@sumtoleung5420
9 жыл бұрын
what a great video, but if it possible that you guys can suggest or show more scenes illustrating these ideas. Because the ideas are fairly abstract, without consuming enough examples, quite hard to comprehend how these thesis come into practice. Just a suggestion, really impressive and well-explained.
@FilmmakerIQ
9 жыл бұрын
Sumto Leung Good idea - I think we will eventually come back and explore these topics further. We also have a section of our site opening soon which will have workshops and we will want to do some practical experiments with these concepts.
@heathermerrill6126
4 жыл бұрын
This was the best description of Montagne that I have heard. Excellent breakdown of concepts and historical facts. Thank you!
@nikitalakhman6843
8 жыл бұрын
Узнал об истории кино своей страны из зарубежного канала. Парадокс!
@sayantandutta7284
9 жыл бұрын
Just Outstanding..Brilliant Video..To describe the most complex things of non-verbal arts in terms of words are actually impossible, but this Man has this rare quality to describe that like our grate filmmaker Satyajit Ray.
@GDF2
10 жыл бұрын
John, you were right when you said to wait until ‘Montage’! As with that posting I’m reminded of Derrida and ‘deconstruction’ but with this lesson there is much more! Montage editing reminds me of the structure of documentaries. An example would be a WWI documentary in which the filmmakers show a German artillery piece firing and cut to an explosion of an artillery shell in the French lines. Obviously it’s not the same shell fired, but the edit suggests that. Again, images are picked and chosen to advance the narrative much as we do in our work as historians! When you discussed Sergei Eisenstein’s film “Battleship Potemkin” and the way he used montage editing to illustrate the concept of the Marxist Dialectic, I was reminded of the structuralist Saussure and his notion that language is made up of ‘signs’. According to Saussure the ‘sign’ is a combination of the ‘signifier’, or sound/image, and the ‘signified’, or the idea/concept expressed by the sign. Think of giving someone a rose for Valentine’s Day, it’s not just the act of giving someone a flower the intrinsic meaning of the ‘sign’ is passionate love. Lastly I would recommend a book, “The Commissar Vanishes: The Falsification of Photographs and Art in Stalin's Russia”, by David King. It’s basically the same idea as Eisenstein’s ideological montage editing, only done through the medium of Soviet era propaganda photos!
@FilmmakerIQ
10 жыл бұрын
Wow - neat stuff!
@MaoRuiqi
8 жыл бұрын
John: Your videos being always well executed notwithstanding, there are times that you exceed even your normal high standards, rendering superlatives futile. This incredible video proves the point.
@FilmmakerIQ
8 жыл бұрын
+Ruiqi Mao Thank you so much!
@VivaJoannee
9 жыл бұрын
wow thank you for this awesome video! I am taking film studies in Spanish in Spain and I completely didn't understand anything in class this whole semester, but you explained things so well!
@LuuFromMars
9 жыл бұрын
+Viva Joanne hii, I´m studying film too in college in Uruguay, and have a hard time understanding the differences between the types of montages, did you happen to understand them? if you have, I would appreciate it soo much if you could explain them with simpler terms. Thanks!
@dimasol5306
3 жыл бұрын
You are great and as usual some great content!!!! I like that you speak in a calm and slow way which makes it very easy for everyone to understand and process what is being said as opposed to crash course channel.
@LyneisFilm
8 жыл бұрын
Great job on presenting montage theory and dialectic concepts in an understandable way. Much better than the Wikipedia article I struggled through. Thanks so much. LyneisFilm.
@Guysm1l3y
10 жыл бұрын
These are so well done and wonderfully concise & informative.
@MultiSciGeek
9 жыл бұрын
I think it's great the way these two forms developed and then met to create a balance. Filmmaker IQ can you make more of these? Thank you
@FxTR22
10 жыл бұрын
Interesting information and great expression by telling the story, even without need of a background music to keep listeners attention:-)
@glassjaw2007
7 жыл бұрын
WoW, just marvelous, your level of explanation and research is of high academical order, you could easily be a top professor in a mayor School Film, there are great filmmakers, but being a great teacher of film is not that easy. You have a great gift Mr Hess :)
@Songbirdstress
8 жыл бұрын
Love your films, thank you so much. I live right next to the FEMIS film school which is in the old Pathe studios in Paris. With your talks it's like I get to go lol
@josuelguinez498
8 жыл бұрын
Very interesting! Great work on both "The History of Cutting" videos!
@vlad1972
10 жыл бұрын
Great work, excellent videos! good material, well explained, good rhythm.
@potenvandebizon
9 жыл бұрын
Nice one. Going to keep in mind this brilliant idea of telling abstract ideas.
@monicabaharova891
9 ай бұрын
THANK U FOR MAKING IT SO UNDERSTANDABLE
@Oamiano
10 жыл бұрын
I learn more from your channel then I do at school! Keep up the amazing videos I'm really enjoying these!
@aisbelk
10 жыл бұрын
this show teaches me soooo much that i wish for more videos in less time ! KEEP UP THE GREAT WORK !
@gt-tv3gb
7 жыл бұрын
Holy filmmaking! Talk about enlightening. Thank you for this great video. First thought with the baby carriage on the stairs scene: Brian de Palma's The Untouchables.
@annbrown9273
9 жыл бұрын
Well done. Great explanations and examples.
@starkingbiker
7 жыл бұрын
Our professor showed us this entire video, thats how good it is
@cetinfiliz_
3 жыл бұрын
The best video about Eisenstein's Methods i have ever seen. Thank you Sir.
@nativemuse
9 жыл бұрын
Film School brought me here, you were assigned :)
@MrPashee
10 жыл бұрын
Thank you, Tovarisch Hess! Your channel is GREAT.
@davidbryson1332
9 жыл бұрын
God knows how I would teach without you guys. You're great!
@annamichalska8283
8 жыл бұрын
I have an exam in to days from the history of cinema and this is my form of revision. :) love it!
@cliccclacc6561
6 жыл бұрын
As someone who has read Marx and studied dialectical materialism, it's dope to see these theories and ideas used to create my favorite medium. (that medium being film.)
@BillZebubproductions
6 жыл бұрын
The presentation style and personality are without equal.
@fitfulflashesoflucidity227
4 жыл бұрын
The dialectics : eisenstein took it from Marx and Marx took it from Hegel, everything's a copy of a copy
@st8tch790
8 ай бұрын
This has been my slogan for a while. I’m autistic and obsessed with montage and compilation.
@69cuervos
9 жыл бұрын
That's clearly - cool explain , man, examples are plainly neat, definitively Russian first filmmakers were real genius. Thanks a lot for this instructing audio - visual material, man...!
@MrBaervan
9 жыл бұрын
a truly masterful and informative overview, great job! hearing again about the hegelian triad brought back high school memories! :) instant subscription.
@robertosiqueira8856
9 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much for this " FIRST class" .( in the two senses of this expression ) ..... I shall surely be following your... Classes.... and recommending them, as well as your site . Congratulations ¹
@Seftr
10 жыл бұрын
I will definitely use this as an exposition to rewatch and analyze some of my favorite Ingmar Bergman pieces. I'm really diggin' this channel!
@JoeySpanoie
10 жыл бұрын
This was great! Really informative and compact.
@ihabhassan2476
8 жыл бұрын
What a great lesson!! Thanks a lot John, you are amazing my friend!
@diannesashlee
8 жыл бұрын
I seriously love this channel
@CharlesTheClumsy
10 жыл бұрын
Great video as always.
@NEMIHEMERA
10 жыл бұрын
Amazing! Thanks for this John!
@krokart
8 жыл бұрын
The Red shirt inside the black box is a nice touch.
@nictheartist
10 жыл бұрын
Love your videos, so informative!
@CaseyChronicle
8 жыл бұрын
Nice job!! loved the video this ish had me glued! keep em comin!:)
@retrolectrovideo
10 жыл бұрын
Very cool presentation about the different kinds of cutting in the past (-;
@monkeywrench4169
10 жыл бұрын
Another great video, John. Thanks. I really enjoy... LOOKOUT!! IT'S HORSEBOY!!!
@alexyoung6372
8 жыл бұрын
thank you for the information, great video, loved it all, liked!
@GallowaySackett
10 жыл бұрын
Dudley Andrew would be proud. :) Informative and enjoyable. Can see you work hard on these videos for both content and production. Thanks. Makes me wish I was in film school, but not the Moscow Film School. Liked seeing the short clips that are so clear. Seen them in the past, but only very fair condition. Interesting to hear that Lenin loved ‘Intolerance’. No doubt he wanted to be identified as Messiah of the Bolsheviks . Believe that Kuleshov’s idea of the film is born in ‘the edit’ is really true. Hitchcock started as an editor, I believe. The ‘Kuleshov effect’ is an interesting psychological phenomenon. We define emotionally the relationship between different images and then ‘attribute’ those emotions to those on the screen. Thanks again for posting. What’s next on the menu? :)
@LuuFromMars
9 жыл бұрын
This video is really helpful! But I still don´t understand the difference between the 5 methods of montage :( Could you explain them with other terms? I´m struggling with this for an exam
@FilmmakerIQ
9 жыл бұрын
+Lucia Piriz Metric is just based purely on time - cut every 2 seconds. Rhythmic follows the rhythm of the scene - like cutting on action. When character A looks left cut... looks right cut. Tonal: is bring shots of different tones - like a bright cheery exterior followed by a gloomy room interior. Overtonal: starts dealing with chunks of film - it's like tonal but now we're dealing with whole sequences. Intellectual: Takes everything before it and tries to link it to some greater theme or thought.
@japoople
8 жыл бұрын
+Filmmaker IQ can you make a vid on video feedback trail?
@ihabhassan2476
8 жыл бұрын
This is such a great lesson!! Thanks a lot John!
@garrswenson
10 жыл бұрын
Awesome lesson, John~
@michaelgonzalez2027
10 жыл бұрын
Great, articulate video. However, Abel Gance should be mentioned in this discussion on early cutting techniques. His La Roue ("The Wheel") is one of the earliest examples of quick cutting and had a profound influence on the Montage filmmakers.
@JakeSickChicken
8 жыл бұрын
This is the coolest shit I've ever seen
@aravindnair2031
8 жыл бұрын
Great job again, this was very informative. Someday your videos will get me into a film school. :P
@ditarf85
10 жыл бұрын
Awesome as always!
@xxhamedxx01
4 жыл бұрын
The most under reacted video in the whole KZitem history!!!
@PaulKretz
4 жыл бұрын
1:36 Учился в РГСУ через дорогу от ВГИКа =))) И часто гулял мимо с однокурсниками. Было это лет за 10 лет до того, как увлёкся съёмками. Вот это поворот =)))
@marxist-leninisttheory8023
9 жыл бұрын
I love both Potemkin and October. I also love Socialist realist cinema. Films like "The Vow" and "Fall of Berlin" had absolutely amazing visuals and in my opinion were better at communicating ideas and telling a story then Eisenstein's films and even in some ways evoked more emotion although that's probably largely due to the fact that they had sound. October is a really long and complex film and can be hard to follow if you don't know your history. There's a couple of other similar films that suffer from that, for example some of Alexander Dovzhenko's work. October does have some great moments. My favorite scenes are probably Lenin's appearance and when Kerensky figuratively becomes the new Tsar. He basically betrays the revolution completely and symbolically restores the Tsarist throne. This is depicted on screen in a very clever way. At the beginning of the film it shows the statue of the Tsar being torn to the ground. Later when Kerensky begins to repress the revolutionaries they play the footage backwards and show the Tsar's statue rebuilding itself. Its brilliant.
@Poweregg28
7 жыл бұрын
Great, great video I've learn more here than in a semester of university.
@hunnyawatramani3751
7 жыл бұрын
I read about the 8 montages. These seem to be the basic ones. It would be very helpful if you make one on the Christian Metz's idea of montages. I love your videos immensely and I love that this channel is so authentic in its information.
@Dodds_world
7 жыл бұрын
Love this!! Would be amazing if you did one on 1920s German expressionism 💪🏻
@IExist.Q86
3 жыл бұрын
Hi sir which editing software u use you're vidios
@FilmmakerIQ
3 жыл бұрын
Adobe premiere and after effects
@The4thAndOnly
7 жыл бұрын
Gerbles... Yup I noticed it.
@Guru-om6lv
4 жыл бұрын
Quite valuable lesson.
@Happaning_tube
9 жыл бұрын
can I ask a question here? I am trying to import 500fps video from mini dv on to a laptop, im using a red white yellow and s video cables into a dazzle video capture card now. the issue is that ether the capture card or the (fairly low grade) software that came with it can only import at 60fps and I lose all of my extra frames for slow motion. if any one knows how to get mini dv onto a laptop while keeping a high frame rate could you let me know?
@FilmmakerIQ
9 жыл бұрын
How did you get 500fps on minidv? That format is only rated for 60i.
@Happaning_tube
9 жыл бұрын
I think I have made a rookie mistake, im shooting on a Cannon XL 1 s and miss took my shutter speed with frame rate. I didn't even know there was a difference to be honest.
@FilmmakerIQ
9 жыл бұрын
119matburn ahh! We'll have a video coming up on Frame Rate one of these days that will explain all those crazy numbers
@Happaning_tube
9 жыл бұрын
thanks man, I just found your channel and it has already became a real asset to me and my learning. keep up the good work and thanks so much for the help.
@eddievhfan1984
7 жыл бұрын
Loving this video. Speaking of ADR (8:08), do you guys have that in the pipeline?
Hello, just wanted to say this was super helpful for me when writing an essay on this topic >
@francescazurlo3182
5 жыл бұрын
This was amazing. Thank you a lot.
@nuan1989
10 жыл бұрын
your thing are great , much better than textbook
@Vincent_Error404
10 жыл бұрын
Awesome video.
@alejandronieto576
6 жыл бұрын
Thanks John.
@wjstudios2686
3 жыл бұрын
Thank you very well presented and big respect to mother Russia.
@Mohamed-Kurdi
4 жыл бұрын
I have just watched Battleship Potemkin. Thanks.
@charlie__a
4 жыл бұрын
Love this channel!
@nicejungle
10 жыл бұрын
Very informative. Thanks
@FlyinEye
10 жыл бұрын
Thank you I just learned a lot!
@kamal21dec
6 жыл бұрын
Love your work sir, respect......
@codered4422
6 жыл бұрын
this video has a very good montage
@jjsscc462
10 жыл бұрын
Excellent! Thank you!
@GaskellleoCinema
10 жыл бұрын
Did you just take this down and reupload it?
@FilmmakerIQ
10 жыл бұрын
This is a higher quality ;)
@RaphaelArgentodeSouza
9 жыл бұрын
Really amazing!
@misterStevePikk
10 жыл бұрын
I think I saw the Kuleshov effect clip a few years ago, and I think I remember the actor smiling. I remember because I thought he looked like a psycho when he looked at the coffin.
@ComeAtMe561
9 жыл бұрын
Can anyone help me with finding examples of Metric Montage in other films? I need film names that feature Metric Montage, other than Eisenstein's work- from other directors... Thanks!
@FilmmakerIQ
9 жыл бұрын
+AlexCordes11 A lot of music videos may be cut to the beat. So look to films that have musical segments (although editors will spice it up with cutting on action beyond just cutting to the beat).
@llewgibson
6 жыл бұрын
Just stumbled across your video mate, really love the content. Liked straight away, We should connect!
@harish5595
9 жыл бұрын
Wow suprb..its done in green matte?
@bredmond812
8 жыл бұрын
I've been looking for these kinds of concise videos on film technique for a while. Thanks for your contributions. I want to ask, have you ever seen the video "A Method to Martin Scorsese's MADNESS - Frame By Frame" by the Film Theorists? They discuss the intermixing of Italian Neo-Realism and Post-Modernist. I wonder if your video is a more precise description of what Martin Scorsese is doing. You are describing the difference between continuity editing and montage editing, whereas it seems he is describing the work in terms of similarities to movements that use the editing techniques like you describe. Am I right? Can you comment on how you would view Scorsese's method? The video I am referring to is easily found on youtube.
@FilmmakerIQ
8 жыл бұрын
+Brandon Redmond I'm familiar with Film Theorists and I like their stuff. I hadn't seen that video till just now: Link for others reading: kzitem.info/news/bejne/rq2Dl56Ej51-p4o I think it's a fine video but I think all video essays about any particular director are forced into a position of over exaggerating things. Lots of films before Scorsese blended continuity coverage with sequences of montage - look at the grand daddy of them all: Citizen Kane. I think what they're trying to incorporate is more the "style" of those movements but they over reach in terms of the actual practice. Italian Neo-Realism didn't invent continuity - like all realism movements it was moving away from staged to a realist view - something that took technology to enable. Post Modernism, in the way I see in this example, was not just montage, but drawing attention to the filmmaking craft itself not necessarily with time shifts but tricks like freeze frames, dolly zooms and sound effects. French New Wave did a lot of this. Truthfully I'm not fully read up on these movements but they all have very wide gray zone between them. I don't think I could or really even want to box Scorsese into any category and say this is his method. I think you really have to look at the works individually. Goodfellas and Aviator aren't working in the same angles ;) On top of that I think a fair bit of understanding the production history is helpful - we credit directors often for happy accidents. A good director enables an atmosphere where happy accidents can happen, but film still is a collaborative effort.
@bredmond812
8 жыл бұрын
+Filmmaker IQ Thank you. I appreciate your quick and comprehensive response.
@unhingedt.v6530
10 жыл бұрын
thanks for uploading
@Joemama-cb1vy
2 жыл бұрын
I’m dying at you putting “Goebbels” as a voiceover because you said it incorrect when filming 🤣🤣
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