I remember testing this game before it was released. At my favorite arcade “goldmine” in newpark mall california there were some people out front surveying people about video games and offering a chance to test new a game. I signed a release paper and went to a location in the city of sunnyvale which is in the silicon valley. I was not told who the maker of the game was and got paid 20 dollars. There 15 other teenagers and we tested this game for about an hour. We were asked what we thought of the game and what name it should be called. We were all impressed cause this was different than any other arcade game we had seen. It was about a year later when it was released.
@The757er
4 жыл бұрын
Jhayman Myles what did you say the name should be?
@broccolihart1
4 жыл бұрын
You are a part of history my friend. Great story.
@BrianMartin2007
4 жыл бұрын
Jhayman Myles that’s awesome! I taught myself to drive and I was 12 when my mom let me driver her Mitsubishi Galant 5 speed. Almost got it to third gear when she told me to let my sister try (she was younger lol)
@Afrikanxl
2 жыл бұрын
@@The757er I'm guessing most of them said it was hard to drive 😉 since it was so advanced for it's time.
@ChannelZ3RO
4 жыл бұрын
I had the Genesis version. I'd spend most of the time flinging my car off the loop, on purpose.
@beniswenis9081
2 жыл бұрын
so did i, tried to see how many seconds of air i got
@DCookStaVideo
5 жыл бұрын
I loved the manual option, I'm sure that lead to my love of manuals now.
@PatmanQC-Arcade-Documentaries
5 жыл бұрын
LOL, that was a great feature that they included
@herbderbler1585
4 жыл бұрын
I'm sad manuals seem to be a dying breed in the US. It's just so much more satisfying to control the drivetrain directly.
@jpcrafton69
5 жыл бұрын
I fondly remember when Hard Drivin' hit the arcade at the local state university. The force-feedback wheel was a revelation, even though the speed was rather subpar compared to the super-scalar racing games. Still, the full 3D polygonal graphics were rather compelling. First time around the track, I over-jumped the drawbridge and subsequently wrecked. Later, when I saw the sequel Race Drivin' at the arcarde, I was overjoyed. The extra stunt tracks, as my 18-year-old-self said, "freaking sweet". Or maybe "killer". Something like that.
@PatmanQC-Arcade-Documentaries
5 жыл бұрын
Yes, that's exactly my feeling when I first saw and played the original arcade cabinet. This was also the first Racing game we couldn't go full throttle around the track. You had to respect the speed limit signs otherwise like you said you were going to crash. I'm pretty sure I over jumped the drawbridge as well Race drivin was so cool when it came out, my absolute favorite was the corkscrew. Thanks for watching
@Marzimus
4 жыл бұрын
Or "rad dude!" 😂😂
@SatanIceCream
4 жыл бұрын
so perfect at the time -- polygons, feedback wheel, CLUTCH AND STICK, and 'real' dynamics.... what fond memories!!!!!!!
@PatmanQC-Arcade-Documentaries
4 жыл бұрын
Absolutely, it was the first realistic driving simulator
@bOoStInVT
4 жыл бұрын
I've learn how to drive and using stick shift from playing this game in my early teen years. My Dad took me out for my first test drive when I got my permit in his manual stick shift car. While driving he ask me if I had been driving his car when he not around due to me knowing how to stick shift. I said no I've learned it from playing Hard Drivin' '!!!!
@PatmanQC-Arcade-Documentaries
4 жыл бұрын
LOL, that's hilarious. I learned to drive with the game outrun I but no clutch
@Marzimus
4 жыл бұрын
Classic!! 👍 Save the manuals- never go auto. 🤜🤛
@broccolihart1
4 жыл бұрын
That's hilarious.
@Hellwyck
4 жыл бұрын
I'm English so we're pretty much 90% manual gearboxes. Over here if you pass in an auto you can't drive a manual.
@DTM-Books
4 жыл бұрын
I to,d the same thing to my driving instructor back in 1990. He reacted with horror, as though I just confessed to murdering squirrels with a lawn mower. Grownups in my town were absolutely terrified of videogames.
@pacman2k1
4 жыл бұрын
stunts was my first game played on a PC(486 DX 50 with 8 MB of RAM). a dream became true! i still own some machines which run dos and i play it from time to time! it's just great! i can remember how many tracks we build and exchanged in shool for competition... :)
@PatmanQC-Arcade-Documentaries
4 жыл бұрын
Stunts was really really good. Like you said, the track editor especially was so awesome.
@skierpage
Жыл бұрын
This is very timely, last night I was at the California Extreme pinball and arcade game show playing Race Drivin' over and over with other attendees (hi, "Kid Dakota"). I completed the Super Stunt course (!!) and only got 82, 000, so the tales of people scoring a million are crazy. In the 90s arcades it was such a struggle even getting to that super high crest after the corkscrew that I was never able to refine my technique on it (I think shift into 4th and coast down the vertical drop). The game told you to use the clutch when shifting gears, but I think you can shift from gear to gear without penalty. I would use the Speedster but I think the original Roadster had less twitchy handling. In addition to being an early true 3D polygon game and a realistic simulator, Hard Drivin' was an early open world game. You could drive all over. I wasted money driving around the backs of buildings looking for Easter eggs. Besides the cow ("MOOO!") and the circular skidpad, you could hit the speed limit signs and they would immediately flatten with an unrealistic "KLANG". The physics was accurate until you crashed, and then the game would do crazy things like catapult the car backwards far faster than it was traveling, or spin for no reason. 11:03 I never saw a two-cabinet linked Race Drivin', that would have been so fun. Arcade-History says only 100 units of the Panorama three-monitor arcade version were made ($13,995 in 1991 dollars is $31,000 today). I never heard of a five-screen version, their page says "Several 3 and 5-screen versions of this game were modified for use as driving simulators for use by human performance researchers. For a time the 5-screen version served as a platform for a high-performance driving simulator program." Someone brought a prototype of Hard Drivin's Airborne to CA Extreme years ago, that was great. It's playable in MAME online at the Internet Archive's Internet Arcade.
@Heat0ne
4 жыл бұрын
Wow, this was my all time favorite game growing up. I still make sure I take down phantom photon every time I see it in an arcade. Thanks for all the great info on it!!
@PatmanQC-Arcade-Documentaries
4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for watching, that you enjoyed it
@GrandCamino6
4 жыл бұрын
Excellent video on my absolute favorite game series. I was 15 back in 1989 and learned how to drive a manual on the full sit down version of Hard Drivin’. It must have been 3 years later I hopped in a 1970’s Toyota Corolla with a manual and drove it on a dirt back road with friends like I had been driving a manual for years. It was my first time. I would love to own one of these one day to share the experience with my son. There was one playable Hard Drivin’ at the arcade casino at the Santa Cruz Beach Boardwalk a few years back. Not sure if it’s still there or not.
@PatmanQC-Arcade-Documentaries
4 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much. It's always been one of my favorite games as well. I learned to drive with outrun a few years prior though
@manuhonkanen2111
4 жыл бұрын
I had the C-64 version on cassette. I taught that the difficulty of the game was because it was so hard!
@stewartfullerton1965
5 жыл бұрын
I owned the C64 version back in the day, it broke my heart. Never realised it was made in 3 weeks, its pretty much the C64's ET.
@PatmanQC-Arcade-Documentaries
5 жыл бұрын
I knew the game was bad but it wasn't until I started putting this video together that I found out the game was made in just under three weeks. That's a great analogy comparing it to ET. LOL
@RJARRRPCGP
5 жыл бұрын
Yuck! That port is an epic fail! Even the one reported to be for the ZX Spectrum, looks better! Looks like the Amiga port, is likely the second-best.
@scottbreon9448
4 жыл бұрын
That was just a lazy port. Stunt Car Racer/Stunt Track Racer proved that a game like that COULD be done on the C64
@sky173
Жыл бұрын
Great video. I had a full-sized version of this game back in 2001. I found it for $400. I had to drive 1000 miles to pick it up, and it worked great. Sadly I had to move and sold it because it wouldn't fit in the new house. I wish I never did.
@PatmanQC-Arcade-Documentaries
Жыл бұрын
Holy cow, even back then that was a great price
@raymxslappedyall3660
4 жыл бұрын
The music on the instant replay for genesis was the awesomest
@PatmanQC-Arcade-Documentaries
4 жыл бұрын
It is really good
@dannyrichardson8019
4 жыл бұрын
I've never clicked a video so fast.
@PatmanQC-Arcade-Documentaries
4 жыл бұрын
LOL, thank you my friend
@CaptainFoufeu
4 жыл бұрын
When I was a 15 year old freshman in high school in 1992-93, the arcade behind the school had one of the multi-screen versions that had the super stunt track. I played it every day. Eventually, I had recorded the top score on the machine, and only got better until only my initials filled up the entire top ten. The owner of the arcade asked if he could video record me playing the game as a tutorial. I certainly said yes, and while he recorded, I gave tips on it, such as speed and where to line the car up for certain stunts. I even beat my all time highest score while doing it! Every Friday, the arcade had a competition for a certain game in the arcade, and finally the week for Hard Drivin' came. Quite a few people tried to dethrone me, but nobody even got close to my lowest score on the top ten. Everybody was blown away when i actually played it, setting another all time top score. They just couldn't believe that I could drive like that at my age. The truth is, my dad had taken me out to drive in the mall parking lot since I was 8, and out on normal roads since 12. When I was 18, I raced production stock for my wealthy uncle in the private racing club he belonged to. That was lots of fun, but there was excessively difficult new driving training I had to undergo, as racing is quite different than normal road driving.
@JustinMacri007
4 жыл бұрын
CaptainFoufeu wow nice childhood story i remember this game we have to see if they can brijg it back with a whole new design system and stuff.
@ChromeCobra420
4 жыл бұрын
Boy, shit is getting deep in here.
@danbanks7930
4 жыл бұрын
Who remembers stunt driver... that was a good one
@PatmanQC-Arcade-Documentaries
4 жыл бұрын
That was excellent. I loved the track editor that came with it
@PatmanQC-Arcade-Documentaries
4 жыл бұрын
@mimseydemon I think it was called 4D stunt driving in Europe And stunts here in America
@moogsmiley4157
4 жыл бұрын
Stunt Driver was just as enjoyable!
@simonbealing
4 жыл бұрын
Hard drivin was hands down one of the hardest arcade games I ever tried. I was only 12 back in 89 though! A driving sim with a wheel and pedals back then was fantastic. Great documentary, thanks for the trip down amnesia lane:)
@PatmanQC-Arcade-Documentaries
4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for watching, glad you enjoyed it. I think the reason it was so hard is because it was a legit driving simulator. I love the game though and still do
@mariomendoza6419
4 жыл бұрын
I liked the fact it had a clutch on the arcade that was cool
@mikequinn7835
4 жыл бұрын
Ohh it was the hardest driving game Atari Games ever did...I agree with you on that. I played it back then too and the steering physics was hard to grasp at the very first turn I made in the game. The game later on had its 3-D engine or parts of it be transplanted to a later driving game in 1996 that they did called San Francisco Rush(which THAT game became a successful racing franchise for the home market shortly on the N64, spawning two games and a 3rd that also saw release on the Dreamcast in the early 2000's) in which by that time the company's corporate culture or business in the way they produced coin-ops more or less changed under WMS/Midway ownership.
@tomyyoung2624
9 ай бұрын
Yes sxm rádio Aberdeen Wa right
@davidgregory2434
Ай бұрын
I remember that back in 97, a lot of my friends learned how to drive a stick off that cabinet
@westoncharm7467
4 жыл бұрын
I actually learned how to drive with this game, as well as, 18 wheeler.
@mattd2275
4 жыл бұрын
Ridge racer for me!
@floyd9572
4 жыл бұрын
Taught myself how to drive stick on one of these machines.
@NYCQuint
3 жыл бұрын
Ditto!
@thisfreakingguy3833
4 жыл бұрын
I remember the music for the replays of crashes when I was a kid I laughed so hard I cried... needless to say it got my quarters every friday...
@Daveybird
7 ай бұрын
Sounds like accident report music on the news.
@jblack5323
4 жыл бұрын
It’s criminal that they actually sold that C64 version. Tbh that NES variant looks horrible too.
@PatmanQC-Arcade-Documentaries
4 жыл бұрын
I was really impressed with the NES version considering the hardware
@jamesmorgan3212
5 жыл бұрын
I loved this game as a kid . I have great memories of being at Aladdin’s castle playing it.
@PatmanQC-Arcade-Documentaries
5 жыл бұрын
So do I, it was groundbreaking at the time
@EdgyNumber1
5 ай бұрын
Re: Amiga. That game really needed a CPU accelerator card and extra RAM. I've played Geoff Cramond's F1GP with a 040 processor card with added RAM, totally change the game.
@davidgodinez5014
5 жыл бұрын
You forgot to include the Sega Saturn port of Race Drivin. Only released in Japan but it’s a great port.
@PatmanQC-Arcade-Documentaries
5 жыл бұрын
I also didn't include the PlayStation one version either. I was running low on time with my video which is why I didn't include these two. The Saturn version is excellent though
@victorvovchanchin361
4 жыл бұрын
@@PatmanQC-Arcade-Documentaries what is the model of Ferrari on the thumbnail please if you know?
@Torquenbeans
4 жыл бұрын
@@victorvovchanchin361 probably a 512 Testarossa or some model Testarossa
@victorvovchanchin361
4 жыл бұрын
@@Torquenbeans I thought it was f 40
@taylorberry1735
3 жыл бұрын
Actually, Race Drivin’ (Sega Saturn) was also released in the USA
@kevinfrushour
4 жыл бұрын
I was about 14 or 15 when I sat down at this game at an arcade. I vividly remember pulling around the cars in front of me to get to the front of the race and running right into an oncoming truck. I was shocked. Oncoming traffic? Instant replays? Hooked, i was.
@PatmanQC-Arcade-Documentaries
4 жыл бұрын
LOL, that sounds like me :-)
@jimbo-fk4dq
4 жыл бұрын
Kid: Mom, can we go to the arcade? I want to play Hard Drivin' Mom: We got Hard Drivin' at home. *Hard Drivin' at home:* 4:41
@PatmanQC-Arcade-Documentaries
4 жыл бұрын
LOL
@bluewingracing1051
4 жыл бұрын
Best use of this meme to date :P
@ryanneal6608
4 жыл бұрын
M H
@AchtungBaby77
3 жыл бұрын
I feel your pain! When I received my copy for C64, I threw it out in disgust.
@rtz549
4 жыл бұрын
One of the most fun things to do is on the Genesis; go in reverse on the stunt track and veer off the loop and send the car airborne for a massive jump.
@PatmanQC-Arcade-Documentaries
4 жыл бұрын
LOL I'll have to try that
@banterforbelievers8491
4 жыл бұрын
For the life of me i can't remember the arcade game which was live action. It's a sit down unit. It was a space ship that had scenes of real tanks you shoot at and choices of moving left or right through a tunnel. It was a favorite of mine, but i can't remember the name.
@nathanshaw9688
4 жыл бұрын
I saw this many years later in a random gas station. I thought it was a ripoff of "Stunts" for the PC. But I guess "Stunts" ripped this off.
@PatmanQC-Arcade-Documentaries
4 жыл бұрын
Yes, stunts came out afterwards
@HalloranIllustrations
4 жыл бұрын
Absolutely loved this game. It was a game that you could never get mad at, even when you loose. The instant replays of the crash always had me laughing. A total stress reliever after a bad day.
@PatmanQC-Arcade-Documentaries
4 жыл бұрын
Absolutely, it's a bona fide classic in my book
@whitepeoplergullible9241
4 жыл бұрын
If you are in Phoenix go and check it out at the Cobra bar downtown.
@ZaGoudou
4 жыл бұрын
DOZENS of polygons onscreen simultaneously! DOZENS!!!
@tevinhoward4419
3 ай бұрын
I played midway arcade treasures 3 for the first time in the GameCube👍
@es-ed5ug
4 жыл бұрын
I think most of us remember taking the stunt track and driving off the loop so we could see the replay
@PatmanQC-Arcade-Documentaries
4 жыл бұрын
LOL, I can recall doing that to :-)
@fredzeppelin3969
4 жыл бұрын
A fun trick for us later on was doing an elongated loop inside the tunnel on the Super Stunt Track ( in Race Drivin'). But the best part of both games, was booger-nosed kids couldn't just sit down and floor it around the track to get high scores. You had to DRIVE THE CAR proper.
@ChadKenova
4 жыл бұрын
I can remember playing it on the sega genesis back in the day but always thought the arcade version with a clutch petal was cool. Its funny how many people today cant drive a manual transmission.
@MarquisDeSang
4 жыл бұрын
I had the Race Drivin arcade (the complete and huge model). When I bought my home and moved the arcade, we lowered it in the basement. Sadly it got stuck there and at 600+ pounds, we had to remove and cut parts. In the end I salvaged all the PCB and components and destroyed the cabinet. I sold the parts to a collector. It makes me sad to think about this.
@PatmanQC-Arcade-Documentaries
4 жыл бұрын
I can't believe the cabinet weighed that much. At least you were able to salvage something out of it
@MarquisDeSang
4 жыл бұрын
@jason9022 I wish I did built the house around it. The stairs to my basement are too high when they arrive at the door at the bottom. Yes I was dumb.
@broccolihart1
4 жыл бұрын
MarquisDeSang Oh darn...
@nattila7713
4 жыл бұрын
you animal !!!! ( :D )
@MarquisDeSang
4 жыл бұрын
@@nattila7713 The first day of my new job for an amusement company in early 2001, the boss there ask me to throw in the garbage 6 bran new Lazerdisc player. I did not have a car at that time and was too shy to ask to keep them. I was young and it was my first day on the job. 6x Laserdisc player BRAND new in unopened boxes and I put them in the garbage container. I don't like to think about that, but I saved 47 arcade PCB while working there, so at least some of our history is preserved.
@djwonderbrad
4 жыл бұрын
I was stoked as a kid when I found this at Boardwalk USA, spent half the day on this game and my arms were sore as Hell from the feedback wheel 🤣🤣
@mpaulm
4 жыл бұрын
I still play this once in a while on the PS2. Still hard as hell!
@PatmanQC-Arcade-Documentaries
4 жыл бұрын
The controls definitely take getting used to
@bloodtearssweat1373
4 жыл бұрын
I remember this game. I can't even begin to tell you how much money I dumped into that Arcade. Wish I could get my hands on 1 now.
@PatmanQC-Arcade-Documentaries
4 жыл бұрын
You and me both my friend
@rars0n
4 жыл бұрын
The full-size sit-down unit really was a treat, and the inclusion of a clutch pedal was something that even later legendary manual shifting games like Daytona USA and Sega Rally lacked. Although I wasn't old enough to have learned how a clutch really works in practice, I knew enough to grasp the basic concept and loved it. The only thing I disliked about Hard Drivin', which made it even harder to play on the slower, choppier home versions, is how punishing the physics are. It's not a game that you can play by just mashing the throttle down, you have to really watch your speed and don't overshoot jumps and turns. This is exponentially more difficult on the terrible SNES game, because thanks to the awful frame rate, you have no sense of how fast the car is really going.
@PatmanQC-Arcade-Documentaries
4 жыл бұрын
I played the sitdown version when I was a kid and thought it was fantastic. The Amiga version was Probably the best of the bunch but that's not saying much. It did have a digitized moo when you hit the cow so that was always a plus. Race drivin was very good on the PC. The super Nintendo version was an abomination. One of the worst conversions ever.
@rars0n
4 жыл бұрын
@@PatmanQC-Arcade-Documentaries Yeah, I was a kid as well, it was one of the older games in the arcades when we went on vacation (they had Virtua Racing in the same arcade, which was a ton of fun but also a very different kind of game), but absolutely one of my favorites. For some reason I was always hooked on it. At the time I only had a SNES though so when I played that conversion I was super disappointed. Luckily I hadn't actually bought the game at full price, just rented it. I tried to love it anyway, but the terrible frame rate just makes enjoying that game impossible.
@freeculture
2 жыл бұрын
Maybe it was a cabinet configuration option but i remember you could simply ignore the clutch and just move the lever to do changes. I clearly remember a grown up complaining that it didn't "feel" like a real clutch. I used to play manual and just move the lever. The wheel force feedback was fun. Yeah i played the sit back version of Hard Driving, but did see Race Driving arcade somewhere back then.
@c0rr0s10n
4 жыл бұрын
I learned how to drive as a kid at the bowling alley with hard drivin' and today it shows. i'm a leadfoot daredevil.
@PatmanQC-Arcade-Documentaries
4 жыл бұрын
LOL
@mrwess1927
4 жыл бұрын
Same
@FreddPhucks
5 жыл бұрын
I played hard drivin as a kid back at my local liquor store. They had Hard Drivin and Cruisin USA. Certainly was fun from what i remember. I didn't know there was a sega genesis port. I should definitely give that one a look. Another great upload Pat! 👏
@PatmanQC-Arcade-Documentaries
5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the comments, the Sega Genesis port is okay but the frame rate is not very good. Best to check it out on the midway arcade treasures 2 Compilation
@FreddPhucks
5 жыл бұрын
@@PatmanQC-Arcade-Documentaries Is that compilation the one on ps2? I will check that out cuz that compilation is not very expensive
@skylinefever
4 жыл бұрын
@@FreddPhucks The Midway Arcade Treasures pack could be bought for the PS2 or XBOX.
@FreddPhucks
4 жыл бұрын
@@skylinefever Thanks for the info. I appreciate it
@Froggievilleus
5 жыл бұрын
I remember my brother renting the SNES version and thinking his console was dying since the game ran so slow.
@PatmanQC-Arcade-Documentaries
5 жыл бұрын
LOL that's funny
@RJARRRPCGP
5 жыл бұрын
Heck, I saw SNES game FPS better than 12:50 while emulated on a 486 DX4 100, FFS!(or similar)
@JohnSmith-qn3ob
3 жыл бұрын
Same here, I loved the arcade version then was so excited when I saw it was on SNES. Then I rented it. The slow down problems have been fixed. Kinda funny how the SNES version was the slowest and now it's the fastest. See for yourself kzitem.info/news/bejne/ym-VmqGtnWmUjJw
@kenkobra
4 жыл бұрын
I remember when this game first came out the arcade owner told us it cost just as much as a car.
@PatmanQC-Arcade-Documentaries
4 жыл бұрын
I read somewhere that it was very expensive so I'm not surprised
@johngulotta7951
4 жыл бұрын
I used to play this at the King of Prussia Plaza. I was the best at this game. remember it was a dollar. When games were a quarter? I used to have the gas all the way down and I would jump the first ramp and completely go But I would always land and the second was a a loop game was awesome.
@RJARRRPCGP
5 жыл бұрын
I fondly remember this in an arcade during my late childhood! When in an arcade in Rutland County, Vermont, if not still right in Rutland, on route 4 east and possibly the arcade right in downtown Rutland, Vermont, too! I remember one day of me not wanting to stop playing it! It was a game-boom era at the time, which made sense, because the U.S. economy was very good during that period!
@PatmanQC-Arcade-Documentaries
5 жыл бұрын
That's very cool, I was up in that area just a few years ago
@chosenone101
4 жыл бұрын
They should of used this game to pass driver's licenses back in the day! I loved this game!
@LogiForce86
Жыл бұрын
Still own an Amiga 2000 and a original copy of Hard Drivin' with box and all included. It's my first sim and proud of it, now I have a much evolved cockpit (all Fanatec gear on a Sim-Lab P1 chassis) myself compared to that which once was this first "sim racing" arcade cabinet. Many people acclaim Pole Position to be the first sim, but the first sim in the modern sense of the word that was complete including a cockpit view, damage model, real physics, force feedback steering wheel, 3 pedals and a fully working shifter... it's only missing a handbrake! Hard drivin' was way ahead of its time in my opinion. 😎
@stphinkle
5 жыл бұрын
The reason the console frame rates were low in a lot of the home ports at the time was because almost none of the consoles could replicate the arcade hardware. Hard Drivin used parallel processing of 7 different CPUs to generate the gameplay experience (68010, ADSP-2100, 2x TMS34010, TMS34012, 68000, TMS32010. Its successor, Race Drivin replaces one of the TMS34010s with a DSP32C, and adds a math ASIC. Many of the consoles have one or two CPUs of a lot less power: * Super NES: Ricoh 5A22 (65C816 derivative) Gameboy: Z80 NES: N2A03 (6502 deriviative) Genesis: 68000 and Z80 Atari ST: 68000 Atari Lynx:: 65SC02 Amiga: 68000 PC: 286, 38, 485
@martymissile
Жыл бұрын
It’s hard to believe now, but I remember doing the math back in the day and a buddy and I probably spent $1000 each playing this game, 50 cents at a time. Can’t be right, can it? Hard Drivin’ must have earned the title of world’s first driving sim for consumers. It broke new ground with its force feedback wheel and realistic physics. You know those physics were legit because they were advised by Bill and/or Doug Milliken, engineers and authors of the ‘bible’ of vehicle dynamics called ‘Race Car Vehicle Dynamics’. I remember dreaming about how fantastic such a game could become in the future, and here I am today, a sim racing hobbyist with an infinity better driving ‘cabinet’ on my desk that has cost me roughly the same amount I spent in quarters 34 years ago in that arcade!
@Travelinmatt1976
4 жыл бұрын
Race Drivin' had a secret track. If you loaded the original track and then when the game starts immediately turn left there is a circle track with a column in the middle.
@nickcadwell1094
4 жыл бұрын
I would love to see something like this done for Airwolf. That way you can feel like Stringfellow Hawk flying Airwolf, and your buddy can feel like Dom helping you inside the Helicopter.
@pfmdude
2 жыл бұрын
Atari Games also made game called Steel Talons. Same 3D polygon graphics. Pretty fun game.
@PutItOutThereTV
4 жыл бұрын
I love this content.
@PatmanQC-Arcade-Documentaries
4 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much :-)
@UrbanLAN
4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this thorough review and race down memory lane. HD & S.T.U.N. Runner were my favorite arcade games. In 1990 I received a combo Christmas & Birthday gift in the form of an Atari Lynx with both ports. Both were amazing to me in their own right to have an arcade hit anywhere I roamed. Mastering HD with the laggy controls felt like a feat in itself, but whenever I reached a point of frustration, switched out to STUN Runner. The best part of any of this history is I still have the Lynx, collected many other games since (including Alpine Skiing), and enjoy them for what they are...classics! Subscribed!
@PatmanQC-Arcade-Documentaries
4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for subscribing,Stun runner on that portable was absolutely fantastic and was the only reason I purchased one. Thanks for sharing your story
@brentboswell1294
4 жыл бұрын
I was the kid at the mall arcade who got the high score, and beat Phantom Photon! I was 17 at the time, and I knew how to drive a stick. The younger kids used to gather 'round the machine when I played, it blew their minds that someone could actually drive a stick...
@adesignersperspective
4 жыл бұрын
just discovered your channel, and this is great! if you haven't yet, would love to see a documentary on the san francisco rush series too, which many people don't realize was actually developed off of what atari started with hard drivin' and race drivin' all those years earlier.
@panicfarm9874
4 жыл бұрын
Had this on megadrive as a kid, had so much fun trying to get the best replay crashes
@filipesantos8525
5 жыл бұрын
Thanks now i shall get midway arcade treasures part 2 for ps2 👍😄
@IllaWondah
4 жыл бұрын
You don't need a 50k car to do 130...I was doing 140 in my $250 acura cl😂😂
@RobbieStrike
4 жыл бұрын
Playing on the arcade was fun to watch the crash replay's. I think this was the first polygon game I ever saw!
@PatmanQC-Arcade-Documentaries
4 жыл бұрын
I believe that was the first one on display
@anthonyharder1469
3 жыл бұрын
SUBSCRIBED!!!!! Always loved your videos I just always forgot to click the subscribe button lol I didn't let that happen this time
@PatmanQC-Arcade-Documentaries
3 жыл бұрын
Fantastic, thank you so much
@anthonyharder1469
3 жыл бұрын
@@PatmanQC-Arcade-Documentaries you are very welcome sir
@filipesantos8525
5 жыл бұрын
Fix yourself a sandwich in between frames 😂 horrible ports even the mega drive one is bad
@PatmanQC-Arcade-Documentaries
5 жыл бұрын
LOL, yeah the mega Drive one isn't very good either. There are some games that you shouldn't attempt to port
@filipesantos8525
5 жыл бұрын
@@PatmanQC-Arcade-Documentaries thanks for your wonderful reviews very entertaining great voice and very funny keep it up many thanks 👍😊 and yeah i only knew this game by the mega drive one but after you showing me the c64 one that was really taking the cake 😂
@TheMathius78
5 жыл бұрын
THANK YOU, PAT!!! I love this series ever since seeing it in a seedy mall arcade in Indy. I'd always try to hit the cow to hear the digitized "moo" as well.
@PatmanQC-Arcade-Documentaries
5 жыл бұрын
LOL, the cow was a must for me if I was playing on the stunt track. Thanks for watching
@alobosk
4 жыл бұрын
I actually,, swear to god, learned to drive with Hard Drivin'. And to drive shift stick. And I got my dad into the arcade to show him that game. After that moment my dad gave me the keys of the car. I drove back home that day. That important is this game to me.
@PatmanQC-Arcade-Documentaries
4 жыл бұрын
That is awesome, thanks for sharing
@gregzielinski
4 жыл бұрын
There are a lot of things that are still high end in the cabinet. The brake uses a strain guage which means it's not how far you push the pedal, it's how hard. Much like real brake pedal it takes up pretty quick but as you excert more pressure, the braking is harder. If I remember the swivel chair version locked the shifter with a solenoid unless you used the clutch. Also I think the steering was a 2+ turn potentiometer. The swivel chair also locked into place so you wouldn't swing out during game play.
@PatmanQC-Arcade-Documentaries
4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the info. I'm not surprised considering started out as an actual driving simulator.
@SlaughterDog
4 жыл бұрын
As a kid, I loved playing Hard Drivin’, which was in the lobby of a local buffet. I had it on my Sega Genesis, but I was so enthralled by the arcade’s key, clutch, and shifter, I’d always choose manual and stall it out enough times at the start to rarely be able to finish a lap.
@PatmanQC-Arcade-Documentaries
4 жыл бұрын
That is awesome, a lot of people have told me they stuck with the manual shift and this is where they learn to drive
@JamesElterman
4 жыл бұрын
Nice video. I learned a few things. Perhaps you didn't know the game was also released on PS1 and Saturn in some regions. The Saturn port is very good but was released in Japan only.
@PatmanQC-Arcade-Documentaries
4 жыл бұрын
No I was not aware of that, thanks
@b0rg1010
4 жыл бұрын
I learned to drive a car because of this game. It was the full cockpit version. I always used the clutch and manual gears.. I played it soo much in the arcades on Oxford road, Manchester, UK that my name would always be on the number one slot.. I would have been 16 at the time. Ahhh, great memories. Also, just just before the end of the lap was an off-road piece on the map where you'd drive round a single tower. 👍😉
@PatmanQC-Arcade-Documentaries
4 жыл бұрын
That's awesome, thanks for sharing your story.
@Risperdali
5 жыл бұрын
Have you played "Stunts" on the PC from 1991ish? It's from Broderbund and it's basically a ripoff of Hard Driving but it runs better than the Hard Drivin' ports: kzitem.info/news/bejne/jp6BsWiVoKiAhmU
@PatmanQC-Arcade-Documentaries
5 жыл бұрын
Yes, I love the game. When I first got it the game was called 4d drivingAnd it was everything hard-drivin on the computers should have been. A nice smooth frame rate and a built-in track editor. It was absolutely excellent
@clok1966
4 жыл бұрын
Excellent review. I own a RaceDriving cab and its a blast to compete with friends for best time. I had a chance to buy 2 (link) but didn't, wish I had now. You mentioned physics but (maybe I missed it) you didn't mention the steering wheel pulled against you in corners like a real car. I thas an electric motor that pulls it back when you turn hard.
@PatmanQC-Arcade-Documentaries
4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the nice words, I did mention that there was force feedback inside. I would love to own an original cabinet of this
@johnz581
5 жыл бұрын
Another game which was similar to this was released on PC called Stunts. You could make your own course, and the graphics were decent for the day. Of course it was digital steering so you could drive with a keyboard, but it was fun. The neat thing was you could make your own courses... I still have many of the courses I made back in the day, broke it out used dosBOX and got the old game working...
@PatmanQC-Arcade-Documentaries
5 жыл бұрын
I had that one back in the day but it was called 4D driving on the Amiga. It was fantastic for its time and you're right, it was fun making your own courses. Thanks
@DrTWG
4 жыл бұрын
Good old polygons - means 'many angled' . I flirted with this game but never really got into it. I never used manual shift in video games but I won't drive a real car without manual shift - I hate automatics . There was another polygon game around the time - a combat heli sim called Steel Talons (?) - it was awful.
@PatmanQC-Arcade-Documentaries
4 жыл бұрын
I love the game, always have
@Chris_LFC
Жыл бұрын
Great video,I adored hard drivin and the glory of your name on the top time slot and not just 3 spaces for AAA. BTW what's the game at 20s into the video can't find online and can't remember what I played it on. 👍
@PatmanQC-Arcade-Documentaries
Жыл бұрын
Power drift, I just did a video on it a few weeks ago
@Chris_LFC
Жыл бұрын
@@PatmanQC-Arcade-Documentaries 👍used to love it ,it's on a sega 3d comp for 3ds trying to locate online to buy
@datacipher
Жыл бұрын
Nope. Wrong from the very start. The first game to replicate driving speed wasn’t pole position, it was Night Driver. This guy needs to learn his video game history.
@PatmanQC-Arcade-Documentaries
Жыл бұрын
Sure, if you count driving at night which I don't
@KuraIthys
4 жыл бұрын
I'm sort of surprised, sort of not, that the Atari 8 bit computers didn't get a version but the c64 did. Even Atari didn't wanna support their 8 but micro anymore, huh.
@PatmanQC-Arcade-Documentaries
4 жыл бұрын
I'm surprised to now that you mention it
@thestarglider
4 жыл бұрын
Correction - The Spectrum version was released by Domark Ltd, and programmed by Binary Design, not Tiertex.
@LordmonkeyTRM
4 жыл бұрын
See also the CPC version
@jamesnoble8205
2 жыл бұрын
A retro arcade close to me has this game in a sit-down console but I find it boring compared to the sequel Race Drivin' which has more tracks and more cars to choose from plus improved frame rate and control response. When I went last week I spent a good 20 minutes just finding interesting new and interesting ways to crash. I also successfully went through the loop in reverse
@PatmanQC-Arcade-Documentaries
2 жыл бұрын
That sounds like me when I would play it. I loved watching the crashes on the replay. The second game in the series is much better I especially love the corkscrew that you have to drive through
@Buck3366
5 жыл бұрын
Always love your documentaries. Original games that are genuinely interesting to learn about. Be cool to see one about the games of Indiana Jones. I had a terrible one on C64. What a stinker 😛
@PatmanQC-Arcade-Documentaries
5 жыл бұрын
That's a great idea, I will put that on the list. I think tiertex were in charge of the conversions which would explain why they were so bad
@AtariLegend
5 жыл бұрын
Another really excellent documentary. I loved it. And that flying hard driving version, wow, how cool was that? Well done!
@PatmanQC-Arcade-Documentaries
5 жыл бұрын
Yes, airborne was really cool and I wish they would've put that into production. It would be great to play that an actual cabinet. Thanks for the kind words
@AlanAttack
4 жыл бұрын
I love the way Patman is so kind to each version of the games he reviews....if this was my video i would be saying...."every other version is shit"
@PatmanQC-Arcade-Documentaries
4 жыл бұрын
Well I try to find something positive in everything I cover but sometimes it's just not possible.
@アンドリュー213
4 жыл бұрын
In 2014 On Mobogenie I Found A Game Like This For Android,The Objective In Game Was Collect All Black Points To Unlock Stages And In That Game We Drive An Red Car,Other Thing That I Remember Was The Manual Shift,I Don't Remember The Real Name Of That Game But The Name Was Like "Turbo Odiessel"If Someone Know The Game Name Pls Tell Me,I Want Have That Cuz It Was The Best Game That I'm Played On My Childhood...
@PatmanQC-Arcade-Documentaries
4 жыл бұрын
I will have to look into it, thanks
@アンドリュー213
4 жыл бұрын
@@PatmanQC-Arcade-Documentaries *:D👍*
@psychonaut1829
4 жыл бұрын
It was an expensive arcade game, but i couldn't resist hitting the cow every time😆
@PatmanQC-Arcade-Documentaries
4 жыл бұрын
LOL, if I went through the track and didn't hit the cow I would be upset :-)
@TwinStix
4 жыл бұрын
Would kill to drive on one of these again ... so many quarters dropped at the local arcade 😆
@PatmanQC-Arcade-Documentaries
4 жыл бұрын
They are out there because so many of them are sold.Just be on the lookout :-)
@Scripture-Man
5 жыл бұрын
Great video, thanks Patman! :) I often feel Hard Drivin' is overlooked by history - you don't hear much about it, and I don't know why. In my opinion, the game represented possibly the biggest ever advancement in videogame graphics, and the arrival of the machine in my arcade was one of the most memorable events of my childhood. Along with Daytona and Ridge Racer, these three games almost single-handedly defined the evolution not just of driving game graphics, but of all videogames. I remember going to the arcade, playing Hard Drivin, trying to remember the course, and coming home and drawing it all out. I spent ages obsessing over this game. It was beyond exciting! Oh and it was also the first REALLY expensive arcade game here in British arcades. Until then, games had been no more than 20p (about 36c) but Hard driving cost a whole pound per game ($1.80), so this really was a game-changer, and you couldn't just pour coins into it like with other games - you had to persuade your parents to give you the money! In the run-up to Christmas 1989 I was losing sleep at the prospect of owning this game on the Spectrum. Even if the game was nowhere near as good (it obviously wouldn't be), I just loved the game so much and wanted to own it so badly. I completely agree with you when you said you really need to sit in the arcade cabinet to get the real effect of playing this game. That's really true. Watching a video of the game running does NOTHING to capture the "realness" of the arcade game: the way all the controls felt, the feedback they gave, the vibrations, the noises of the road - the deep hum of the engine, and the sound system which gave you an immersive sense of being there. It's like you could just "feel" the road underneath you. Sadly, I never got to see any of the sequels in the arcade, despite eagerly anticipating them.
@PatmanQC-Arcade-Documentaries
5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the comments. I know the game was a pretty big success but I don't hear a lot of chatter about it when it comes to retro gaming such as other classic arcade games. It absolutely was revolutionary at the time and it absolutely was one of the most expensive games to play at the time. It was only $0.50 over here in America but when most of the games were $0.25 it was a bit expensive. I would get a dollar maybe two from my parents and I had to make it last for at least a couple of hours. Four games of hard-drivin and it was gone. LOL I don't recall having this game on the Commodore 64. The first time I played it was on the Amiga and it was a pretty good conversion at the time despite the frame rate. The spectrum port was really good in my opinion. You absolutely had to experience this in a real arcade cabinet. Like you said watching a video of it does nothing for the complete experience. Race drivin was a great game. I loved the super stunt track and especially the corkscrew. Thanks for watching my videos, cheers
@Scripture-Man
5 жыл бұрын
@@PatmanQC-Arcade-Documentaries Thanks :)
@KuraIthys
4 жыл бұрын
I'm constantly surprised at attempts at 3d on these systems. I wrote a line drawing algorithm once for 6502... Probably could be optimised somewhat, though the bulk of the workload is actual pixel plotting. (also the setup for the routine - done once per line, which implies longer lines are better than shorter ones). Anyway, on my PAL atari 800XL, I did a very rough estimate that showed I could draw 500 lines per frame (at 50 fps). This gives you some idea of the performance of wireframe 3d. Let alone trying to do flat-shaded 3d. Even with no game logic at all this represents a scene of less than 200 wireframe polygons. Another thing you can estimate is pixel plotting. Absolute best possible case for plotting pixels is that each requires a single memory store. That takes 4 cycles. On a 1.79 mhz atari (1.77 actually, it being a PAL machine) That means you can manipulate, absolute best case... Just under 400,000 pixels a second. (again, no game logic and also assumes no complications in pixel plotting - which there definitely will be). How bad is this? Let's take the Atari's 80x192 16 colour mode. (writes are 1 byte, so unless your code can exploit this you get no benefit to less than 8 bits a pixel; if anything the masking involved hurts performance) So, 80x192 = 15,360 pixels. That's a particularly low resolution mode too, since it'd be more typical to use 160x192 or 320x192. For a 1.77 mhz PAL machine we get 442,500 instructions a second (4 cycle STA instruction) At 50 fps, an 80x192 image would take 768,000 instructions to update. (best case). So that alone is close to double the performance we have... (and remember 160x192 would be double that again. 320x192 would be 4x that). In fact, even with this best case, updating a 320x192 image would be limited to updating at 7 fps... So... Yeah. Ok, 80x192 would make 25 fps flat shaded 3d doable if you optimised the living daylights out of it. Though even then, with any non-trivial game logic and the likely non-optimal pixel plotting you'd be forced in, I'd be surprised to see anything break 12 fps unless it was very low resolution indeed...
@PatmanQC-Arcade-Documentaries
4 жыл бұрын
Wow, thanks to the technical info. I'm so surprised they even attempted it on the lower powered systems but the almighty dollar rules all so I really shouldn't be
@KuraIthys
4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I'm surprised they tried it too. These systems are just way too slow for it. My estimates for pixel plotting don't account for the complexities of a game. I mean, they don't even account for the complexities of having the clear the screen memory between frames. If you do that the naive way that modern games (or DOS games from the 486 era likely do it) then every pixel cleared onscreen counts too, so just clearing the screen halves your potential framerate. Of course, knowing that. the most efficient way to clear a screen of wireframe graphics is to keep a list of lines drawn and draw them again in the background colour. Ironic that drawing the same line twice would be better than clearing the screen... I mean, I'm impressed when people have tried to do 3d on these systems... But there's a reason it's not a good idea. XD
@SonnyGTA
4 жыл бұрын
I REMEMBER THIS!!!!! You could shift it with a clutch pedal and everything.
@PatmanQC-Arcade-Documentaries
4 жыл бұрын
Absolutely, it started out as a driving simulator
@SonnyGTA
4 жыл бұрын
PatmanQC - History of arcade game documentaries I learned that later from your video! I tend to make comments DURING the video! Haha. Man, this channel is amazing! I’ve watched like 10 videos already!!
@PatmanQC-Arcade-Documentaries
4 жыл бұрын
@@SonnyGTA That is awesome, glad you enjoy my content so much :-)
@moiquiregardevideo
5 жыл бұрын
The hard drivin CPU board was the most expensive. It was actually two large boards, each containing about 120 TTL chips. There was 3 CPU: TMS34010 for graphic DSP... For 3D computation Motorola 68010 for general computing. Despite all this, the refresh rate was probably 10 per second.
@PatmanQC-Arcade-Documentaries
5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the info, it sure made an impression on me
@moiquiregardevideo
5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the thumb up. I was impressed by the capacity to create a real 3d world ; the first driving game that allowed to turn around, drive in opposite direction. I liked to crash the car on the loop and observe the replay of the accident.
@ramanagment
5 жыл бұрын
I taught myself to drive a manual using this arcade game. True Story!!
@PatmanQC-Arcade-Documentaries
5 жыл бұрын
LOL, that's awesome. Goes to show how realistic the game was
@liltwistofcaine
4 жыл бұрын
Same here.... unfortunately I learned to steer in hard drivin like I was Burt Reynolds outrunning cops....
@shanetorok3293
4 жыл бұрын
I had the snes version... It was horrible. Played it for 5 mins and never touched it again
@PatmanQC-Arcade-Documentaries
4 жыл бұрын
I could not believe how bad that version was.
@Fitforacting
4 жыл бұрын
Lolz @1:58 no sales means don’t go out in Spanish. Great video though
@PatmanQC-Arcade-Documentaries
4 жыл бұрын
Thanks, I'm a little rusty on my Spanish
@WalterDiamond
4 жыл бұрын
Great video! I was 13 when Hard Drivin' came out and spent most of my paper route money on it. As a commented far down the page noted, the game could only be played for so long before it would just fall to pieces and glitch out. I recall it was over the 500,000 mark, which took about an hour. Race Drivin's physics would slightly different and would was able to break 1,000,000 several times on the Stunt Track. The real winner, though, was the Super Stunt Track. You could gain time and play forever. My PR was over 5 million, which took four and half hours. Did that at 15, and had never driven a car. I remain opposed to automatic cars to this day.
@PatmanQC-Arcade-Documentaries
4 жыл бұрын
Thank you. I have read a lot of comments from people who learned to drive stick on this game. Goes to show how realistic this game was. :-)
@skierpage
Жыл бұрын
That's crazy. I just completed the Super Stunt course at California Extreme pinball and arcade game show and only got 82, 000. Please make a video with commentary of your techniques in a real cabinet or using MAME! It was such a struggle even getting to that super high crest after the corkscrew that I was never able to refine my technique on it.
@jamesnoble3502
2 жыл бұрын
Also I successfully went through the loop in reverse without crashing. It is possible. (Original Hard Drivin')
@PatmanQC-Arcade-Documentaries
2 жыл бұрын
LOL fantastic
@Phoenix2312
4 жыл бұрын
Oh wow... I cannot wait to see him rip the worst port of this game apart... The Amstrad CPC Port... *Waits with Baited Breath* - WHAT!? THE C-64 WAS THE WORST PORT??? HOLY BLOODY S**T!
@PatmanQC-Arcade-Documentaries
4 жыл бұрын
LOL, it was absolutely terrible. I knew they couldn't compete with the arcade or even 16 bit versions but I was blown away at how bad it was
@Phoenix2312
4 жыл бұрын
@@PatmanQC-Arcade-Documentaries You and me both! I honestly thought the CPC would be the worst... I was a CPC Owner and while I gave Hard Drivin its best - It was LOUSY!!! I didn't expect the C-64 to be WORSE though! THAT IS NOT NORMAL!
@DarkpawTheWolf
4 жыл бұрын
I was hoping you'd have a review of this. I LITERALLY learned to drive a manual trans because of this game. I had the shifts down pat, and when I bought my first car, it was a 5-speed manual...no problem. Also worth noting is that the girl that ran the arcade in my mall clearly didn't understand electronics. One night I was having some fun with it, popping the clutch, and she threatened to throw me out of the arcade because I was going to....get ready for it.....burn out the clutch on the game. lol
@PatmanQC-Arcade-Documentaries
4 жыл бұрын
LOL! That is too funny! Thanks for sharing :-)
@tonygreene81able
4 жыл бұрын
As much as I miss the early 1980s, I don't miss shit home ports we got.
@PatmanQC-Arcade-Documentaries
4 жыл бұрын
We definitely got our share of bad ones but on occasion true gems would stand out
@hunter371
4 жыл бұрын
It's probably one of the shortest games on the Genesis, but I really enjoyed playing this as a kid and making that cow moo. Never got a chance to play the arcade game but it looks awesome.
@PatmanQC-Arcade-Documentaries
4 жыл бұрын
The arcade game was much smoother.
@beanmchocolate3900
4 жыл бұрын
Your voice is SO COOL! It sounds like Microsoft Sam!
@PatmanQC-Arcade-Documentaries
4 жыл бұрын
LOL, thanks for the complement
@GamingHistorySource
5 жыл бұрын
Entertaining & informative ! :) You have my full endorsement ! Just learned about your channel from a comment on my video, Let's Compare ( Lotus Esprit Turbo Challenge ). Excellent videos !
@PatmanQC-Arcade-Documentaries
5 жыл бұрын
I thoroughly enjoy your channel as well. Thanks for the nice words
@TexRobNC
4 жыл бұрын
I'm pretty sure the original Hard Drivin was released with 3 screen support as well. I can remember playing SO many variations, standup, sitdown with single screen, sitdown with 3 screens off the top of my head.
@PatmanQC-Arcade-Documentaries
4 жыл бұрын
It was released with three screens. I've never seen that one before though and would love to try it
@skierpage
Жыл бұрын
@@PatmanQC-Arcade-Documentaries11: 13 You say there was a five-screen version?!
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