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@imightjustgiveup7119
2 жыл бұрын
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@uraharakisuke1329
2 жыл бұрын
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@MrTommo2304
2 жыл бұрын
@@imightjustgiveup7119 I thought I did, thanks for the heads-up!
@MrTommo2304
2 жыл бұрын
@@uraharakisuke1329 Thanks Kisuke!
@mattstyles2498
2 жыл бұрын
What this really showed is how under utilized the Visards are in this series. They should of been the only ones able to kick A the whole arc or at the very least the 1st invasion.
@bqw2094
2 жыл бұрын
And yet the vizards don't use their hollow powers when fighting the quincies for some unknown reason. It's like kubo WANTED them to take nonstop Ls.
@gammafrost
2 жыл бұрын
Yeah kubo definitely did them a disservice. He could have at least given someone like Shinji a win against one of the sternritter
@joshuakhaos4451
2 жыл бұрын
This bugged the fuck out of me back in the day and did put a sour taste in my mouth. I would have been totally fine with an explanation as too why they dont, whether it was a rule to be let back in or that they were cured of their Hollow powers... Both explanations would have been acceptable, but no. We got nothing and watched the visards get bodied like they were nothing.
@RGA301092
2 жыл бұрын
Meanwhile we have to watch Mayuri get all these undeserved Ws, and of course there's Zaraki and Byakuya who also get all the Ws and favorable matchups (with a few exceptions). It's annoyingly and blatantly clear that Kubo has favorites.
@chavaspada
2 жыл бұрын
@@RGA301092 "undeserved" bro Mayuri was TYBW arc MVP.
@ARandomEliatrope
2 жыл бұрын
@@RGA301092 byakuya? getting favorable matchups? excuse me what lmao???
@kaikrassin8096
2 жыл бұрын
I thought that the whole hollowfied Bankai aspect was an indication that the vizards would play a big role since I thought that Quincy couldn't steal Bankai mixed with Hollow reishi.. Low and behold how wrong I was.
@gammafrost
2 жыл бұрын
It’s a shame. They felt underutilized. Imagine after figuring this out, they would have done a much better job during the second invasion
@andyzhang7890
2 жыл бұрын
Yea, I honestly expected and hoped that the vizards and the arrancars woulda played a bigger role, considering their biological advantage against the Quincy. Guess Kubo just really loves his Gotei 13
@aragaminightmare9527
2 жыл бұрын
I'm curious as to why the Vizard Captains didn't use their Hollow Mask, like there's a war going on wouldn't it be smart to bust out your best abilities that involve using ceros and stuff
@ophhate
2 жыл бұрын
@@aragaminightmare9527 someone on KZitem said that it was probably yamamoto. Like for the vizards to come back they cant hollowfy. Thats pretty logical to me but it could be headcanon
@ophhate
2 жыл бұрын
@@andyzhang7890 dude i was thinking the exact same thing. The vizards should have been the MVP'S of the arc
@andreaodessa9181
2 жыл бұрын
There are so many things I completely forgot about the last arc. I'm pretty sure Kubo ran out of time / health to elaborate more about cool ideas like this and I can't wait to see whatever he comes up in the anime adaptation.
@ndro_gyny
2 жыл бұрын
Watch “the fall of bleach“ 1 & 2 for more on that.
@Chris-ks4sw
2 жыл бұрын
@@ndro_gyny A lot of what was said in that was inaccurate and misleading.
@matthewamayalopez3921
2 жыл бұрын
@@ndro_gyny author of those videos debunked them himself, not credible anymore
@ecc3147
2 жыл бұрын
He run out of time because he was pressure and rushed to finish the manga. He actually had a plan but was not able to finish it. Hopefully anime gives him the chance to finish the story the way he intended to.
@ndro_gyny
2 жыл бұрын
@@matthewamayalopez3921 What the hell are you talking about?
@nephilexfrost7202
2 жыл бұрын
I took hyorimaru looking like that In a different way when I read it. He was PISSED.Toshiro had worked tirelessly and with obsession almost. And having gained bankai, we know that he had impressed hyorinmaru to the point of giving up dominance. He had ceded control of himself to hitsugaya out of respect. He had earned it. Then this fool Quincy comes and just STEALS him, and uses him. Zanpakuto have immense prides. And this was a moment of pure rage and hatred. Hyorinmaru had faith in toshiro, faith he could wield him with full and devastating effect. He knew the Quincy was about to get his payback.
@jacobsunday6561
2 жыл бұрын
Ik they eventually had to get their Bankai back, but I wish they used that to give us more fights with the Captains trying to utilize their shikai alone. They did so with Toshiro & Rangiku vs Bazz B and I found the way they combine their shikai in the fight to be very interesting.
@joshuakhaos4451
2 жыл бұрын
I was hoping for that too back in the day. Sadly we only got 1 decent show of it.
@jacobsunday6561
2 жыл бұрын
@@joshuakhaos4451 right, I just imagined Sajin using Tenken and Momo using Tobimue to make a giant flame sword, that would have been cool
@Bodabodabroadcast
2 жыл бұрын
I actually found that very disappointing. The way that they overpowered Bazz B to the extent that his flames are even stronger the Yamamoto's was just too extra.
@ophhate
2 жыл бұрын
@@Bodabodabroadcast i agree. Bazz legit destroyed them. I guess the bankais make a huge difference
@AJ-kt5zo
2 жыл бұрын
@@Bodabodabroadcast 💙
@kyleoverton334
2 жыл бұрын
The more I keep thinking about this plot point the more I want to believe that Kubo originally had the Visored playing a bigger role in the TYBW arc.
@jamiew1342
2 жыл бұрын
That was always my thought too. It always felt like there was supposed to be a tie in with the Vizored Bankai/Arrancar Resurrecion not being stolen. Like he had to scrap the first half because it made more sense with Kisuke working in Hueco Mundo that there was just the Arrancar connection
@kyleoverton334
2 жыл бұрын
@@jamiew1342 Exactly, especially considering that they do get a fair amount of appearances in the arc. You have the 3 returning captains, who all get a fight, hell Rose and Kensei get to use their bankai in their fight. And then you have all of the Visored return just to gang up on Gerard. But it feels like they should've come in sooner. Like it sucks that they were defeated so easily but I feel like it wouldn't be as bad if they got introduced earlier as the "secret weapon" to use against the Quincy. Let them come in a fight against some of the weaker Sternritter with the Shinigami, give them some shine, and then after the Shin'eiyaku pills are developed, have them go after Gerard. That way they still lose to an overpowered character, but they still end up accomplishing something and don't end up looking like a complete joke.
@AJ-kt5zo
2 жыл бұрын
@@kyleoverton334 💜
@ophhate
2 жыл бұрын
@@kyleoverton334 gerard should have transformed when the vizards hit him. THEN he swats them away. I would have been happy with that
@grmancool
2 жыл бұрын
aizen: spends years planning his betrayal of soul society and uses a god mcguffin to turn shinigami into hollows urahara: heard quincies stole your bankai so I hollowfied it in my free time
@endew4456
2 жыл бұрын
Urahara's one sounds like the title to an Isekai
@nicolaemihai3581
2 жыл бұрын
Aizen: you did what in your what, Urahara Kisuke? Damn, if only I had waited for a little longer for Kyouraku to become the boss!
@GutsNOnions
2 жыл бұрын
I Still Believe Urahara Is Smarter Than Aizen, Pretty Sure Aizen Was Jealous Of Urahara
@nicolaemihai3581
2 жыл бұрын
@@GutsNOnions they could be equally smart or smart enough for the regular person to not matter the difference. It is important the motivation and goals to which you use the intelligence
@itzmrinyy7484
2 жыл бұрын
@@nicolaemihai3581 Aizen's self sabotaging and does random shit for no reason while Urahara has focus. Aizen really just let Ichigo be born and set up his growth as a shinigami only for him to be used by Urahara to seal Aizen himself. Aizen will do things like mentally torture Toshiro or manipulate Momo or allow the Vizards to live, while Urahara might troll people here and there he's not the type to do random side quests for no reason at all.
@zeldakixass
2 жыл бұрын
I was so hyped to see Toshiro's " hollowfied" form and I was really looking forward to see the other captains who got their bankais stolen have a " hollowfied" form, so it was kinda disappointing when we didn't see the others. It would be so cool to get to see them in the anime!
@longsleeve3280
2 жыл бұрын
maybe cuz he hasn't truly mastered bankai
@Smellmyduty
2 жыл бұрын
That’s what I put on the bleach brave souls questionnaire they asked what characters would you like to see next and they had a list but that wasn’t on there so I put other and wrote hollowfief bankai captains down
@AJ-kt5zo
2 жыл бұрын
@@Smellmyduty 💙
@IamtheGL
2 жыл бұрын
We need that adult hollowfied toshiro bankai, OP!
@Harmless_Ficus
Жыл бұрын
Thye better give them the whacky voice filter on the anime to expand on Hitsugaya's hollowification
@justinpachi3707
2 жыл бұрын
Actually Kubo clarified that it’s an application of YHWACH and the Quincy’s Sankt Altar technique. This technique was how YHWACH tried to steal Ichibei’s power.
@jeepamir508
Жыл бұрын
Hm, when you think about it, that actually makes sense. Since all of their abilities come from Yhwach, it's natural that he bestowed some of his own abilities to them, like you can see with Hashwalt
@justinpachi3707
Жыл бұрын
@@jeepamir508 The Quincy Schrift abilities aren't YHWACH's. Kubo explained this in a Q and A. Like with the Almighty, YHWACH has an ability to see names of something people are lacking within themselves. He draws out that power within them by bestowing them that name in the form of a schrift which brings out the true potential of their soul. These Schrifts still remain with them even after YHWACH retakes the piece of his soul he shared.
@jeepamir508
Жыл бұрын
@@justinpachi3707, that's not what I was talking about. Not about Schrift abilities, but Quincy's abilities in general. And Sternritter's abilities as well. That's what I meant. They cannot have the same abilities as Yhwach, since he's the Father of all Quincy. But he could've taught them how to use some of his abilities even a little bit, just like you've mentioned with Sankt Altar.
@vamp567
2 жыл бұрын
I feel like Kubo missed a huge opportunity with the whole Hollow Reaitsu being poisonous to Quincy thing. Could have really given the Vizards a chance to shine a bit, considering they are already hollowfied. The fact no Vizard pulls their mask out against any Stirnritter is disappointing.
It’s funny that Mayuri was the MVP of the War Arc for the Soul Reapers but is not considered a War Potential
@CaptainKotetsu
2 жыл бұрын
@@Rodolphin Not a huge fan of Mayuri but it makes sense. He’s a coordinator and strategist. He’s an MVP in the same way as a general in a real war. Both are huge players but seldom see frontline combat.
@nyankahana6447
2 жыл бұрын
Mommy Kotetsu
@llamathecooldude691
2 жыл бұрын
Every character that messed with Nemu’s body: 😰💀
@lordhades598
2 жыл бұрын
I'm actually honestly surprised they didn't have a vendetta against Captain Kurosuchi since he did multiple sketchy experiments on thousands, if not millions of Quincies. You would think Ywach would've wanted Mayuri to be like one of the first ones to die out of the Shinigami
@manuelacosta9463
2 жыл бұрын
There where so many possibilities with the stolen and then Hollowfied Bankais. We may still see the OP Captains and others in the hell arc, especially given how utterly dangerous the hellspawn have shown themselves to be.
@VitchAndVorty
Жыл бұрын
And most dead captains during the war were actually the most dangerous ones. I'm so anxious to imagine the immortal Unohana becomes a major villain in the future. LoL
@Classic_Glass_Bead
Жыл бұрын
@@VitchAndVorty forget Unohana, Yamamoto becomes a major villain in the Hell Arc already terrified me, sending chills down to my spine
@3slicessenpai
2 жыл бұрын
I wish Soifon also got a little mask herself. Her Bankai literally has a little section for her to place her eye for aiming the missile. It'd be so cool to see her get a DBZ-like scouter.
@Greybears
2 жыл бұрын
One thing that sticks out to me about Histugaya getting the partial hollow mask, are the developmental tropes that have had implications on his bankai’s maturity. Hitsugaya is still an adolescent, and has not reached his prime whether that be physically or with his reiatsu. I think Kubo making it apparent that the hollow reiatsu had unique physical manifestations is a nice duality to the later use of his bankai vs. Gerard Valkyrie in which he forcibly matures his body in order to bear the full berth of his Hyorinmaru’s abilities. It really hits home how juvenile Toshiro is in the grand scheme of things, regardless of his prowess as a captain.
@hypertier
2 жыл бұрын
YOOO YOUR GETTING SOME BIG SPONSERS! This is amazing I’m glad to see that this channel is growing
@crisscore157
2 жыл бұрын
that "ice hollow" bankai of hitsugaya looks just so "cool", it feels almost illegal for it to look so good
@VitchAndVorty
Жыл бұрын
It should even be illegal to utter that pun.
@CitroChannel
2 жыл бұрын
They really could have done some even cooler stuff with this concept. A Quincy trying to steal the Bankai of one of the Visored Captains and failing only to hurt themselves would have been great to see! Maybe use that to give Rose and/or Kensei a win against a different Sternritter before they're wrecked by Mask. And man, I really hope the anime still gives us more information on BG-9. Not only what is K Schrift stands for and can do, but how exactly what is seemingly a robot can be a Quincy _and_ how the Hollow reiatsu can be poisonous to what seems to be a non-organic/spiritual being. So many questions about that guy lol...
@ophhate
2 жыл бұрын
Rose and kensei should not have been beaten. Who cares about bg9?
@Abyssionknight
2 жыл бұрын
I always viewed the medallions as a means of hijacking the signal between shinigami and zanpakutou, allowing the quincy to dictate where the bankai manifests, when it manifests, and what it does while manifested. It's still a part of the shinigami and fueled by their power, it's just that connection between the zanpakutou's consciousness and the shinigami's that allows control that's been taken over.
@dylanedinger1306
2 жыл бұрын
I think that might be why yhwach never used yamamoto's bankai. If they are still tied to the shinigami enough to be brought back using hollow reiatsu then it makes sense that dying also cuts off that connection.
@BILD2057
Жыл бұрын
@@dylanedinger1306 3 months later, but that can't be used as reason for not using Yama's bankai cause Driscoll used Sasakibe's while he was already dead
@dylanedinger1306
Жыл бұрын
@@BILD2057 that is true, maybe it's more along the lines of yhwach seeing yama's bankai as beneath him and The Almighty so he just never uses it
@AJLaz000
2 жыл бұрын
"imagine being so weak that you have to resort to nerfing your opponents to win" - The Schutzstaffel
@Yklowz180
2 жыл бұрын
Its also a big deal that this whole concept came very early when ichigo’s bankai could not be stolen It wasnt that it was incomplete, it was because of something we wouldnt know for over a hundred chapters It was all because his zanpakuto was hollow based
@andyzhang7890
2 жыл бұрын
*Okay but imagine QUINCIFIED BANKAIS… like instead of a single-use Jakuho Raikoben, BG9 modifies it into a fucking gattling gun version… or each petal of senbonzakura spreads fear….*
@waltermalone216
2 жыл бұрын
I was hoping for more stuff like that
@obrians-brown1307
2 жыл бұрын
Since you mentioned that this is Military advancement for the seretei, Imagine if they bring the hollowfied bankai back for the Hell Arc. They could even have a plot develop from it where it does become detrimental to use it.
@Forty2de
2 жыл бұрын
Not many people could explain these drawn-out chapters of the manga to me in a way that I'd stick around for, but you've consistently managed to do it in multiple videos. You're pretty good at this.
@bugsdrabbit3954
Жыл бұрын
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@Pr0digyZRX
2 жыл бұрын
Hollowfied Hitsugya looks kinda awesome fr. I'd loved to have seen a hollowfied adult Hitsugya though
@AJ-kt5zo
2 жыл бұрын
Me 5.
@syn_crazyy
2 жыл бұрын
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@BradHIII
2 жыл бұрын
Toshiro with a hollow mask was so dope. I loved all his forms in the arc
@AJ-kt5zo
2 жыл бұрын
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@Nayuta94
2 жыл бұрын
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@olmodelrio1144
2 жыл бұрын
I like also the idea that in the begining Yamamoto theprised that Quincies could not steal his Bankai and Ichigo's one because they don't have enough data being Yama's Bankai too ancient and Ichigo's Bankai too new but Ywach proving this wrong made me think why they still couldnt steal Tensa Zangestu, but after the hollowfied bankai subplot appear it makes so much sense as Ichigo's is literally a natural hollowfied Bankai
@babaG819
2 жыл бұрын
From my understanding, In Ichigos case it wasn't because it was hollowfied but because it wasn't his true zanpakto. "Old man Zangetsu" is also ichigos quincy aspect, NOT his shinigami/zanpakto spirit, though he recognized both aspects as his "true" zanpakto spirit. So this may also be a role. Basically in order to streal the bankai, you need knowledge of what it is and how it works and not even Ichigo had that knowledge.
@LuciferArc1
2 жыл бұрын
@@babaG819 yeah but the hollow reiatsu still resides in it too. It's not the forefront but it is still there. So it's a combination imo. They had no idea what the hell it was, the hollow reaitsu also causes issues, and not even ichigo knew wtf his bankai was at the time
@babaG819
2 жыл бұрын
@@LuciferArc1 yeah that's basically what I'm saying but they CAN steal hollowfied bankai and hollow reiatsu, it's just poison to them.
@phantomzero1982
2 жыл бұрын
@@babaG819 I thought it could’ve been because Ichigo didn’t have a proper Zanpaktou since he didn’t have an Asauchi
@babaG819
2 жыл бұрын
@@phantomzero1982 that might play a role but White is in my opinion essentially an asauchi/ so I'm not sure. White wasn't just a hollow but closer to a shinigami. Also any zanpakto becomes an asauchi when taken by a new shinigami. So when ichigo took rukias shinigami powers and formed a sword, which I don't think was unprecedented as it was illegal to transfer power this way, this should have served as an asauchi of sorts as well. On top of that, ishins soul was connected to masakis to prevent her death, her soul already being fused with White, so ichigo had inherited soul reaper, quincy, hollow and human "souls" at birth. The shinigami spirit being a reflection of the soul. When ichigo awakened his first true shikai with kisuke, he already had a hollow mask on his head so this was basically a substitute asauchi of sorts since it definitely awakened his zanpakto. I'm probably not entirely correct and I think you're probably right but these things were at play as well.
@jonathanmcbride884
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much for this. I had an “ahah” moment at the end of the video due your explaining that the stolen bankai still being connected to the shinigami as I had always assumed they were completely separate. This allowed to realize that Yhwach couldn’t use Yamamoto’s bankai, even if he’d wanted to, since he killed. Naturally, the bankai would no longer exist with Yamamoto dead.
@fer3glockboy167
2 жыл бұрын
I loved the whole idea of bankai stealing medallion i felt it was very well thought out and a good flip for the series.. great video and excellent discussion as always man
@EmanueleCappello
2 жыл бұрын
The way that I pictured it back then it was in the nature of the Quincy. They generate an amount of Reishi roughly equal to that of humans. When they fight, they absorb the external Reishi as if they were breathing. The bankai is an extremely tolling technique (the fact that Ichigo burns himself extremely fast in his first fight with Byakuya is an example), so they need to fuel it fast and Shinigamis are generally a much bigger source of reishi with their reiatsu. Captains have the highest outputs (with Zaraki having the highest, IIRC), so when the quincy use the bankais, they irony is that they are fueling the bankais with the reiatsu emitted by the captains themselves. The drug that Urahara uses temporarily attaches itself to the reishi emitted by the captains, which is then "breathed in" by the quincies. Inside the quincy, the reishi is processed through the bankai to become fuel, but at that point the "antibodies" from the quincy physiology start attacking the alien particles, which are now bound to the bankai, causing a severe anaphylactic shock. At that point, quincies are forced to remove the parts that are being rejected to survive, thus discarding the bankais that, needing a capable host, go back to their previous owners.
@94nat16
2 жыл бұрын
I don't know how much extention we'll get in the anime but I really hope we get to see more of those masks. Imagine one panel with Aizen noticing the masks and making a comment 😆 it almost salt in the wound that it's alright to experiment with hollowfication as long as it's Kisuke!🤣 keep up the good work btw man! So pumped to see the channel growing daily
@DvonParker
2 жыл бұрын
I love that you do this because the way you go into detail about this series is something I enjoy
@mattstyles2498
2 жыл бұрын
What this really showed is how under utilized the Visards are in this series. They should of been the only ones able to kick A the whole arc or at the very least the 1st invasion.
@NeufAtora
2 жыл бұрын
It really shows how much you've embraced the long form content that you call a 26 minute video "short"
@BlackHedgehog
Жыл бұрын
I just noticed when you showed Stark's mask he has the mask lines that Ichigo's mask had which is interesting and I've never noticed. I honestly would have loved for full-on hollowification because an ice hollow mask just sounds amazing. Hopefully the anime rectifies the showing of Byakuya, Komamura and Soifon.
@rmeddy
2 жыл бұрын
Interesting take on the hollowfication and connection of their souls and their bankai but that means that Yhwach could've never used Zanka no Tachi because Yamamoto was killed, effectively neutralizing the medalion?
@nickolaibernar16
10 ай бұрын
I would have loved to have seen Kubo show that the drawback of using hollowfication on Bankai alters it on a fundamental level and changes it in either minor or drastic permanent changes. Not just a one off activation with no negatives
@SirDuckyTTV
Жыл бұрын
After the anime coming back I’ve been obsessed with these videos ended up finding them because it was in my recommendations after watching some bleach brave souls videos keep up the amazing work 🫡
@K3rty
2 жыл бұрын
4:57 the bankai stealing medallion is obviously the modified power of yuha IMO. It even has his flowing blackness themed effect. One of his most overlooked skill is power compartmentalisation. He can share and call back percentages of his power at will. It's a weaker copy of that. Basically a mini, one-target aushcwallen.
@bengrogan9710
Жыл бұрын
I personally think it's more fitting to think of it as the Guincy making use of the same technology that the Substitute Shinigami Badge worked on
@jaydenabrokwa5768
2 жыл бұрын
The advert reminds me of Rengoku (Demon Slayer) eating in the train and shouting "Umai" 😍❤️❤️❤️😂😂
@Mstrskeletor89
2 жыл бұрын
Its always so nice to see the two of you together on screen you two are truly an adorable couple!
@Xainfinen
2 жыл бұрын
I thought that the Wandenreich tactics were really sound and smart and the way to deal with them as well. I understood that this temporally Hollowfication was not enough to make them able to tap into Hollow abilities but was enough to be toxic to the Quincies and in the case of Toshiro, manifest basic Hollow traits because of how his Zanpakuto work, logically other aesthetically flexible Bankai could also display these traits. It did make me think about what could be possible with application of the same principle but for Zanpakuto. Imagine if by way of isolating the Hyper regeneration of Hollow and incorporating it into the Asauchi creation process, you could get a Zanpakuto who's Bankai would repair itself and be impossible to stole.
@willkerr665
2 жыл бұрын
Great video idea! I loved the hollowfied bankai parts.
@loganhayse8771
2 жыл бұрын
I thought during the battle against Gerard; Hitsugaya's hollow form would emerge and try to take over and engage Gerard much like Ichigo vs Byakuya. Instead we got something else.
@mistuhjoestar
9 ай бұрын
I wish Toshiro would've said "now I know how Ichigo feels" when he had his partial mask
@Uberdude6666
2 жыл бұрын
It is interesting, what would have happened if the sternritter tried stealing the bankai of any of the vizard-captains during the first invasion? I like how Kubo just went off the scale with like, gritty and grimdark "shit has hit the fan"-moments, like the panel at 15:13
@GoldtonPlayerTip
2 жыл бұрын
Great video as always! I love the concept of hollowfied bankai and Toshiro's coolest form.
@AJ-kt5zo
2 жыл бұрын
Think it come back-in the Hell arc.
@obsidianblade8762
2 жыл бұрын
I was hoping to hear about this from you! One of my favorite parts of TYBW
@derekrichardson7853
2 жыл бұрын
Oh yeah, remember when that was a thing for like two chapters? Definitely felt like Kubo was saying “nah, I changed my mind. Quincy can’t steal bankais anymore because I want to be able to reveal them without having to worry about them being stolen now.”
@algis-kun8777
Жыл бұрын
More than Quincy vs Shinigami and/or Hollows... this is more of a conflict between the natural forces (the balance between Shinigami and Hollows) and the invasive force that disrupts the natural forces (Quincy) because one or more elements are deadly to them and the other part inherently fuels it.
@km2460
2 жыл бұрын
Awesome vid Tommo! I hope they add more to the bankai stealing sub arc in the anime it has a lot of potential to be even better than what we already got in the manga!
@TheZangetsuTensa
Жыл бұрын
Maybe that's the reason Ichigo dislikes being hollwofied at the beginning of the show It was very unpleasant for him as a quincy, but not that harmful because he was a shinigami. And after the transformation, he was always exhausted.
@andyzhang7890
2 жыл бұрын
IMO there wasn’t really enough of a struggle to actually arrive at the solution itself, I always imagined that it would’ve had something to do with freeing the Espada, like if Quilge survived and ichigo had to actually defeat him (maybe teaming up with grimmjow?) in order to turn the tides. Would also given Ichigo a much bigger role in the second invasion
@nicolaemihai3581
2 жыл бұрын
I just had to pause at 10:23 since you kept that panel on for a bit 😅, can't wait to see how much they censor Ichigo's mom. As for the these bankai, like many other rushed things in this arc, I hope they explain it more. Toushiro looked really good and hoped it remained like that
@truthspreader1996
2 жыл бұрын
Questions! 1) Do the quincies gain the x5-10 boost for having Bankai? 2) Does the x5-10 boost still exist or can the Soul reapers win without it (Overkill maybe)? 3) Are the quincies just wearing the bankai or can they activate it at will (because Yhwach stole the Head captain's bankai and you never see that again even after he dies)?
@pieoverlord
2 жыл бұрын
I have a few problems with the concept and execution of Bankai stealing. For starters, I don't like how it codifies Bankai as a separate entity from Shikai and even the basic zanpakutou (which does at least go on to be important for Kyoraku and Zaraki). I preferred it when it was a sliding scale of initial to full release, as it felt more "spiritual", if that makes sense and feel like it would have been more of a shock if they stole the entire zanpakutou. For how it played out, it bothers me that it was done by Sternritter. They have enough interesting and unique stuff going for them to play with that stolen Bankai just clutters things up. Felt like it should have been another division of the Quincy army who lacked schrifts of their own.
@bengrogan9710
Жыл бұрын
People also are missing the obvious contradiction that is shown in the Story already If Quincy have this Violent toxic reaction to Hollow Reiatsu - how do you explain away Quilge absorbing Ayon and simply being mildly annoyed that it was ugly - Especially considering the fact he made it a point to say it Sklavarei, an ability of all quincy, not his "Letter"
@jammiecreekmore3939
Жыл бұрын
The Quincy are akin to magic users like wizards that require focuses. The medallions act as a focus that they move the soul of the bankai to. This allowing them to use the bankai by focusing their reshi through, kinda like putting a colored lens over a flashlight. The Quincy acts as the battery providing the power. And the bankai is the bulb. Power+ bulb+ lens = desired lighting.
@Avarn388
2 жыл бұрын
I really appreciate your content Tommo, but the fact you mentioned how the stealing of the Bankai is never really explained highlights one of my many problems I have with the final arc of Bleach. Stealling the captains Bankai is an awesome concept but really it was something that needed to be explained. Because that raises all sorts of questions. Like are the Bankai and Shikai linked? If so, wouldn't the Shikai be stolen as well? Don't get me wrong; the actual content about the captains lamenting their loss over their abilities(something Fake Karakura did an excellent job emphasizing just how powerful they were, Kyoraku and Starrk) and that struggle is great in concept. I love when stories strip away the heroes main abilities and in turn they need to use their natural skills in order to defeat the bad guys. But as you admitted, this isn't that well fleshed out. It's a shame because with enough time and not having to face pressure, I 100% had faith that this element could have been phenomenal. But as it stands the idea comes off as very hollow(pun intended). My hope is that the anime adaptation will in fact expand on this and many things. That Bleach's final arc will be like Yu Yu Hakusho's final arc being adapted and will vindicate Kubo in the eyes of more casual fans who hated this arc.
@Rodolphin
2 жыл бұрын
Also another miss opportunity about the Bankai Stealing plot, none of the Vizards didn’t try to use Bankai in the first invasion. I would’ve love to see a Quincy shock in disbelief when they can not steal a Vizard’s Bankai. So that way, the Gotei 13 would have a clue of how to counter the Stealing Bankai medallion.
@gammafrost
2 жыл бұрын
@@Rodolphin that would have been perfect and I remember thinking the same thing and the hint was in ichigo’s bankai not being sealed. His hollow powers are mixed with his soul reaper powers which is why the medallion doesn’t work
@AJ-kt5zo
2 жыл бұрын
@@gammafrost 💚
@dalzellk.williams6428
2 жыл бұрын
I love your videos! I watched the entire Bleach anime although I did not finish the Manga I am so hyped to see this last arc animated. The trailer was amazing especially the music and that last shot of Ichigo! I can't wait to watch your reviews. I bet you hit 200k subscribers by the emd of the year!
@gammafrost
2 жыл бұрын
I’m so disappointed that we didn’t get to see Ywach use Yamamoto’s bankai after stealing it. It would have been so cool to see. I wish kubo could change this in the anime but he’s unlikely to
@saitothelonewolf28
2 жыл бұрын
probably couldn't cause he killed him as soon as he had it stolen
@gammafrost
2 жыл бұрын
@@saitothelonewolf28 it doesn’t matter if you kill the soul reaper. Choujorou died but Driscoll still used his bankai afterwards
@AJ-kt5zo
2 жыл бұрын
@@gammafrost 💚 Fair point wish it used too.
@ektran4205
Жыл бұрын
@@gammafrost chojiro's bankai was drastically weaker when driscol used it
@vollied4865
2 жыл бұрын
It's very easy to understand just remember the chapter when ichigo got his true zanpakuto: The Sword is Me. While it is stolen, the bankai is still hitsugaya and so forth. The sword is me.
@joshuakhaos4451
2 жыл бұрын
Sure it would have been nice to get a full explanation to how the Bankai's were stolen, as well as seeing all the Captains who did get robbed get Hollowfied back in the day. But that just leaves more content that could be added to the anime if Kubo and the studio wants too. I'm not getting my hopes up though, but it would be cool to get.
@mariopatlan9595
2 жыл бұрын
I’m really hoping that since the end of the manga Kubo has been able to flesh out those areas of the final arc that didn’t receive proper explanation like the Bankai stealing ability and will implement them via the anime adaptation. Although, It might be just wishful thinking on my behalf.
@ianmiller7882
2 жыл бұрын
Bro we went from tasty treats to imminent danger so quick lol
@jeromep234
2 жыл бұрын
that was actually a great sponsor integration. love it
@ilikestuffyea7379
2 жыл бұрын
Im surprised you didn’t mention the connection more like the muramasa arc was sorta possible inspiration, though I don’t know much besides things from the game and aspects on how they start hollowfing bankai.
@tyrxian6452
Жыл бұрын
I always loved how Hitsugaya's Hollowfied Bankai looks more like a Ressureción more than anything else
@laughingvampire7555
Жыл бұрын
it also makes sense why the Quincy use a bow and arrow to fight Hollows, they wanna avoid contact with them as much as possible.
@marcelocapeljunior3579
2 жыл бұрын
So there is some form of connection between the stolen bankai and their original wielder even if they're being used by someone else. That's a neat detail. Obviously a stolen Bankai doesn't vanish if their original owner is killed, as was the case for Sasakibe's. So I wonder to what degree that connection exists. Because as we know with Tosen, a shinigami can pick up another shinigami's zanpakuto and form a bond with it, which overwrites it in a way, but the Zanpakuto was still called the same.
@STULF20X6
2 жыл бұрын
There is a detail you forgot The very beginning of the arc with the quincy enslaved arrancar attempting to steal Ichigo's bankai. It is the only time an arrancar is shown to attempt to do so via the quincy medallion, and to the one true shinigami hollow hybrid. This should have been another clue just how much a quincy could not handle a hollow's riatsu
@bengrogan9710
Жыл бұрын
and yet...Quilge Opie does just that
@AndrewHahaLee
Жыл бұрын
Aizen: Steals hougyoku and spends several arcs worth of experiments to break down the shinigami-hollow barrier. Urahara: I have a pill for that.
@jeepamir508
Жыл бұрын
Dam, if Visards really missed their opportunity during the first invasion to destroy Quincies with their bankai, since they're already immuned to the medallions. But, as much as there were many missed opportunities with that arc, I really liked that it was Urahara who came up with the idea how to regain the bankai. That just shows how smart he's and why he is one of the 5 secret war potentials.
@kadmodir
Жыл бұрын
An almost unspoken fact about bankai is the fact that the bankai isnt an extension of the shinigami, it's not a friend, nor an ally, the bankai is quite litterally, the manifestation of the shinigami's soul, so when the shinigami soul carries hollow reiatsu so too would the bankai
@birisuandrei1551
Жыл бұрын
It makes sense that the Quincy could steal the powers of shinigami (specifically the bankai as it's the biggest power boost) as they had ONE THOUSAND years to prepare and they got sooo much information about the soul society, they obviously fear the bankai and it's power.
@jjcarver80
2 жыл бұрын
lol living/working in Japan, I love seeing Americans enjoy Japanese treats. They're even better here, with local shop producing fresh snacks daily.
@in-craig-ible6160
2 жыл бұрын
You know, Soi Fon's Bankai gives her a face mask already. Would be easy for Kubo to redesign it slightly for the anime version, give her a proper Hollowfied Bankai. Not sure how Komamura and Byakuya would look Hollofied, though. Would still like to see it though.
@kevina6416
2 жыл бұрын
would have loved to have seen 4-1 Espadas fighting against the Wandenreich. The bulk of the hueco mundo forces consist of Neliel, Grimjow, and Harribel. Im not surprised Quilge was in charge of Hueco Mundo. Not to imply he's weak.
@screwaccountcreation
2 жыл бұрын
Hollowfied hitsugaya was awesome. I agree we should have seen hollowfied versions of the other captains as well. All of them would look amazing. I would also be interested in additional abilities granted by the hollowfication but that is probably unlikely to be revealed. Still would be cool for a hollowfied Komamura bankai move or a hollowfied Soi Fon special reveal!
@skyrogue1977
2 жыл бұрын
Imagine if Yhwach actually gets to use Zanka No Tachi in the new anime. Probably just to summon zombies but still.
@gammafrost
2 жыл бұрын
That’s what I want more than anything!!!! For Ywach to use the most powerful bankai in the series!! People were hoping he would use it against Ichibei but it never happened. Ywach would look so cool covered in flames
@1234andrewjacksmith
2 жыл бұрын
They could also go with the easy option of yhwach lost it since the medallion lost its powers temporarily and so it just vanished because has brought up by cang du the medallion also keeps the bankai around
@AJ-kt5zo
2 жыл бұрын
@@gammafrost 💙
@ektran4205
Жыл бұрын
it would be drastically weaker if yhwach used it
@parrishharris3008
2 жыл бұрын
Your absolutely right we should've been able too see more fights transformations and characters perform this tactic 😢😭.
@AJ-kt5zo
2 жыл бұрын
💜
@thepurplebox380
2 жыл бұрын
I think what's understated in this video is the tie from "Bankai stealing" to "The blade is me". Effectively, by stealing the Bankai of a person, you're stealing a part of themselves. Which is why you see so many of these captains who ostensibly should be quite competent even without their Bankai become so distraught. It also establishes how hollowfying oneself can impact someone's stolen Bankai. You're hollowfied, so your Bankai (which is you) is also hollowfied.
@Bricksgaming710
2 жыл бұрын
Lol Mr. Hat and clogs the ultimate plot device 🤣
@afz3003
2 жыл бұрын
I need to read this arc again. I don't even remember any of this subplot
@Aurora-313
2 жыл бұрын
What upsets me is the Visored could've been the perfect vehicle to show how Hollow power is poison to the Quincy. Two of the three Visored captains have Bankais that can be used around others. Imagine if Kensei and Rose, upon hearing about the Bankai sealing, were among those who chose to sacrifice their Bankais in a coordinated effort to understand the techniqu. They're the obvious choices because they have Hollow masks to fallback on (power that's technically supposed to surpass a Shinigami in Bankai anyway). Their Bankais get stolen, they hollowfy, the Bankais snap back to their control, critically injuring whichever Sternritter they happen to be fighting. (Maybe go so far as the Sternritter themselves drop the stolen Bankais like hot potatoes when they see the masks, giving crucial in-verse evidence to Kisuke's explanation as opposed to puilling out of his ~~Kubo's~~ ass.). But its very clear Kubo favoured some characters over others. Mayuri was just.... ass-pull extraordinaire in that last arc... :/
@ghostridernz17
2 жыл бұрын
No he knew hollow power is poison based off ichigos mom so he had a very good reasoning backing him i wish the visord just had used their masks in general in the fights but i wonder if they wore their masks wouldn't quincy also be their kryptonite? Couldn't it just be they get hit once and just die because quincy power obliterates hollows? Thats what we dont know because kubo rushed and thats the only other part i wish we get explained to us or see in a fight but im a fraid it might cost the life of one of our favorite visord boys if it is a both can one shot each other with their respective powers. And the final fight with ichigo doesnt help either cuz well ichigo has quincy powers merged with his hollow in perfect harmony and idk if a hollow powers would effect ywach the same as it would the others but thats what i hope oh and the ending ofc i want to see a better version of it. Tldr i want to see a better visord fight and use their masks during the fights and a better ending fight/ see ichigos bankai hahahahaha
@kevinbell5674
2 жыл бұрын
I'm guessing the Bankai stealing medallions are actually old technology developed after their loss 1000 years ago but were made before they mastered Vollstandig. The Sternritter are at such a high level of strength that they don't even really need to steal Bankai's to give them an advantage. It was more of a flex on their part then a necessity, and it never hurts to weaken enemy forces when you can.
@thomashost272
2 жыл бұрын
I think the reason Soifon does have a mask is because her Bankai works differently from Toshiro's, with Soifon it's just her Shikai growing in size and turning into a rocket launcher, whereas Toshiro's grows around his body actively for the Bankai, allowing more wiggle room for the mask to be present as part of the Bankai, as a result I suspect Byakuya might have one as well, being made of the Senbonzakura blade "petals" and had Rukia had her Bankai at that time, her Bankai would have a mask of ice similar to Toshiro.
@Elunvira
2 жыл бұрын
tbh this explains Ichigo's first Zonpaktuo not being an asauchi (or w/e their called) and why yawach nor any other quincy could steal his bankai Don't want to make a whole paragraph but essentially it's based on the importance of the souls. Hollows essentially amalgamations of souls and riatsu infused together rather than the soul controlling the riatsu (like the supreme guy's hand) and this prevents the Quincy from gaining the Arrancars powers. Ichigo further proves this point as his Zanpaktuo was created by him at the start, thus no Quincy could steal a part of him while all other bankai where only conduits using a third party and the medallions only transfers the power to them before being channeled into the Zanpaktuo. The pill basically forces the souls within the shinigami to hollowfy and temporarily capable of manifesting outside the persons body. This would explain why only 1 captain became some what hollofied while others didn't as his Bankai uses him as a medium and the rest are already manifested outside the body. The only difference is the sequence of channeling of power. Without Kubo explain in detail, it more or less seems like the sword infuses both powers to one and allows the communication of the host and "parasite" but the hollowfication infuses the power together before being channeled into the zanpaktuo
@r3gret2079
2 жыл бұрын
Toshiro's hollowfied bankai is one of the coolest looking things ever. I wish we had more time with him in that form cuz holy cow, that shit was awesome!
@AJ-kt5zo
2 жыл бұрын
🐲💙
@r3gret2079
2 жыл бұрын
@@AJ-kt5zo ❄🐲💙
@Dark_Rhapsody
2 жыл бұрын
Any Captain: [Insert bankai name here] Any qunicy: We didn't say you could do that. :/
@Smellmyduty
2 жыл бұрын
That was my idea for the next round of bleach brave souls characters I even put that on the end of the year questionnaire when they asked what would you like to see next
@zenkairanger
2 жыл бұрын
I can’t wait to see this animated! 👊
@NeufAtora
2 ай бұрын
My question about this is how they knew the medallions would work and how they tested them. We never hear of anyone randomly losing their bankais at any point.
@skeptischism1324
2 жыл бұрын
Kommonura had a really cool Shikai, but he ALWAYS goes straight to bankai. I think I only saw him use a Shikai ability once. I think during the fake karakura town arc.
@truthspreader1996
2 жыл бұрын
Yep that's the one time.
@severussin
2 жыл бұрын
This is effectively a Bleach poetry channel now
@jeepamir508
Жыл бұрын
I think the fact the Hollowfication works so successfully is explained right here at 16:08 - Cang Du said that he, the one who had stolen Toshiro's Bankai, must kill Hitsugaya to make his bankai fully bend to himself (Cang Du). Which means that, even though their bankai is stolen, it's still connected to its original owner (captain) as long as he's still alive. Which is why the Hollowfication can successfully affect Quincies through their use of Bankai - the captains are still connected to their Zanpakto spirits, because it's more than just reishi particles and rejatsu. Zanpakto is the extention and the part of Shinigami's soul, which is why you cannot fully steal that and which is why Quincies felt the effect of Hollow power in bankai. Basically, Bankai is the part of Shinigami's soul, and since Shinigami's soul got Hollowfied, so did the Bankai, which in term means the harm to Quincies.
@bengrogan9710
Жыл бұрын
there is one part that needs to be explained away If the Hollow Reiatsu is so toxic - why when Quilge fully absorbed Ayon was it only a cause of mild annoyance to him rather than sending him catatonic - He even explicitly stated he absorbed it with Sklavarei, a standard quincy ability not something to do with his powers as the jailer
@1234andrewjacksmith
2 жыл бұрын
based on the whole Bankai is the true from of a zanpakuto which is why damage is permanent on it and Toshrio seemly inability to talk to Hyōrinmaru after it happens that the very spirit of the sword is stolen(the mind of the bankai) in a way it is some what similar to the whole zanpakuto rebellion arc filler where the sprit manifested and so they can't use Bankai but still can use shikai(apart from Ichigo of course because reasons) I have seen someone claim that Yoruichi said that the power of shikai comes from the world itself tough I could not find it personally I would say since the direct physical form of the zanpakuto remains with them that with focus and training they can still use their power to get shikai because they still have the soul and body that births that power since after all the blade is me a zangetsu is Ichigo, Hyōrinmaru is Toshrio and so on they still have the tool they imprinted their soul on that is separate and so because they still have power their soul can still produce the limited from after some time and maybe right away though we never see that in the TYBW I do wish we saw more of the hollowfied bankai for the captains but soifon at least might have the she used it since it took a while for Toshrio to show the hollowfied version and well Urahara does say even if just for a second it will be enough so another one is well they didn't remain hollowfied for very long basically it Yhwach and the Quincy’s Sankt Altar technique which is power steal the skill turned into basically an item for lesser ones to use
@RGA301092
2 жыл бұрын
Since communication and relationship between Shinigami and Zanpakuto plays a significant role in their power, I wonder if Hitsugaya was nerfed even more besides simply not having his Bankai. His mention of the limited ice his Shikai has doesn't seem to fit with the fact that he still has the ability to generate all the moisture he needs with Tenso Jurin, controlling the weather within a 12 kilometer radius. Hitsugaya seemingly not even attempting to use Tenso Jurin to at least work around his seemingly limited ice could either just be plot stupidity (like Soifon not even attempting to use her own Shikai's ability against BG9), or perhaps without any communication or possibly even presence of Hyorinmaru, Hitsugaya was completely incapable of even using Tenso Jurin and thus had to rely on the Vacuum Ice combo as a workaround.
@milagrosmiracle80
Жыл бұрын
I really do hope we get to know more in the anime when we get to this part. I hate the fact Kubo had to rush this final arc but I hope the anime gives us more information
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