Karl Urban did great in Dredd, with wearing the helmet the whole movie.
@Robert399
9 жыл бұрын
The problem in movies is that armour in general is not protection; it's a fancy costume. I haven't ever seen armour stop attacks in a movie, the weapons just go straight through.
@MrPobanz
9 жыл бұрын
Robert R Hobbit 3, when the heavy armored orks fought those peasents... oh wait, yeah you're totally right. Though i think Game of Thrones did quite a good job at not being totally hilarious when displaying armored people fighting.
@belongaskip
9 жыл бұрын
Robert R There's one scene in Troy where Achilles' greaves protects him. :)
@Robert399
9 жыл бұрын
belongaskip lol I remember, Hector spends like 10 seconds trying to grope his calf and Achilles shakes his sword arm to make it appear as if there's something preventing him from his stabbing the fool.
@Elivasfq
9 жыл бұрын
Robert R Troy as you remembered, First Knight(1995) with Sean Connery, at least in one scene i think, and GoT at least sometimes. That's it, as far as i know. Love Hollywood.
@ArnandKularajah
9 жыл бұрын
Robert R In Kingdom of Heaven, Orlando Bloom's chainmailed arm specifically prevents a sword cut from lopping his arm off when he is fighting on the battlements. Frodo's Mithril shirt stops a speak thrust by a Cave Troll from killing him. These are two that immediately come to mind. I would say that in Hollywood, Armor protects when it's relevant to the story that it do so.
@JTWilliams74
10 жыл бұрын
Interesting to note, at the very same battle where Henry V was wounded by an arrow to the face, the leader of the Welsh rebel army, Henry "Hotspur" Percy was killed by an arrow to the face when he lifted the visor on his helmet.
@13pen537
10 жыл бұрын
Such irony.
@Evilmonkey7270
10 жыл бұрын
NO SKYRIM JOKES!!!
@HaNsWiDjAjA
10 жыл бұрын
Another example was Agostino Barbarigo, the Venetian commander at the Battle of Lepanto, being killed by a Turkish arrow when he momentarily lifted his visor to gave command.
@Evilmonkey7270
10 жыл бұрын
Elle Sea I *SAID* NO SKYRIM JOKES, DAMMIT!!!
@Evilmonkey7270
10 жыл бұрын
Elle Sea Fuck off...
@bluewales73
10 жыл бұрын
This makes me scared to even go outside without a helmet.
@HamsterPants522
10 жыл бұрын
Just invest in a casual hat and reinforce it with plates and padding. Folks would be no wiser.
@nutyyyy
10 жыл бұрын
Good thing i've got my 12th century replica Crusader Helmet to keep me safe outside in the big scary world xD
@HamsterPants522
10 жыл бұрын
***** You wear a gorget underneath a frogmouth great bascinet? Well, whatever floats your boat.
@WhyUbrown
10 жыл бұрын
Poor Oberyn should have watched this video and listened to Tyrion...
@TheShiz9797
8 жыл бұрын
should have just ended him quickly
@Eidenhoek
6 жыл бұрын
Did he *have* a pommel?
@sanctumsomega
6 жыл бұрын
Its dead...leave it be. #killthismeme
@junoguten
9 жыл бұрын
When I see that film hero with the ridiculously tough breastplate and partial plate armour on top of chainmail, and I see the hair flowing, I guess I'm just gonna grab a hold of his hair and render the rest of his armour irrelevant with my club or mace. I would use my sword, but something tells me that as the hero of the story, his ransom will be worth an infinite amount of in-film money.
@DamnFuckLazy
8 жыл бұрын
+junoguten Mount & Blade Warband?
@junoguten
8 жыл бұрын
DamnFuckLazy Brilliant game :-)
@schwarzerritter5724
8 жыл бұрын
Don't you know only evil henchmen wear face concealing helmets?
@hacheurdepoulet
9 жыл бұрын
From now on, I'll be wearing my fifteenth century Barbute 24/7, 'just in case' :D
@scholagladiatoria
9 жыл бұрын
hacheurdepoulet Please post pictures.
@hacheurdepoulet
9 жыл бұрын
scholagladiatoria Will do, ass soon as I get it ! I started re-enacting and needed a helmet, this video convinced me :-) Also, do you know a Blacksmith called 'Marek'? My company mostly buys stuff from him, but I ain't sure of the quality .. Thanks in advance for your response !
@hacheurdepoulet
9 жыл бұрын
hacheurdepouletAlso, his items look quite expensive.
@hacheurdepoulet
8 жыл бұрын
+Meng Lee Hi :) I am serious but i'm talking abour real armour, for actual fighting, the helmet you're proposing isn't thick enough thanks tho!
@cato1213
10 жыл бұрын
Case in point: Agostino Barbarigo, one of the main commanders of the Holy League's fleet at Lepanto, lifted his visor up so that his orders could be heard more clearly over the din of battle. Just a few minutes later, he took an arrow to the eye and died soon after.
@Drakwdeanrer
8 жыл бұрын
2:25 "..shooting weapons at your head..." Me: immagining archers shooting swords, maces, axes out of their bows. :D
@THExWASP
10 жыл бұрын
my favorite helmet were the buckets the crusaders used they always looked so fancy
@patfcat3187
9 жыл бұрын
This guy took 12 minutes to say that helmets protect your head.
@scholagladiatoria
9 жыл бұрын
Pat Fallon Did he? What a twat.
@jimheaton9503
9 жыл бұрын
scholagladiatoria To be fair, "he" also suggested that protecting your head is A Good Thing...
@xXxTripleHxXx
9 жыл бұрын
Pat Fallon Yeah why bother explaining his Statement and providing Facts just stating random stuff is ok because its the Internet right
@Blah81150
9 жыл бұрын
Tracchofyre It's fairly well known that modern helmets don't stop the typical rounds a soldier will come up against, but they're still issued and used. A good reason for that is it makes the soldier FEEL safer about sticking his head around a corner and such.
@xXxTripleHxXx
9 жыл бұрын
Dont be redicilous i bang my had against a wall atleast 10 times a day to get used to being hit in the head so when im attacked or have an accident the consequenses will not be so bad. Nothing ever happended to me during my exersise exept the loss of a few braincells here and there but if you dont have nearly nothing to lose to begin with like me you should be fine
@gerritvandenbosch4681
9 жыл бұрын
This lesson could not be emphasized enough! When I did reenactment you were not allowed to fight without one. 3 points of reference of a helmets importance: 1) when fighting with a Larp weapon I struck a bald man on the head (without trying to add force) and caused him so much pain I considered not fighting him during the rest of the day. 2) While doing medieval reenactment I accidentally struck my charging friend too hard on the helmet, this pushed out a helmet panel. imagine if he didn't have one, luckily he took little injury. 3) Again during reenactment i was pushed into a ditch about a total of 2m fall in total (once you include my hieght) and hit my helmeted head on a rock. Because I was wearing it I suffered no injury.
@brettd2308
7 жыл бұрын
I like how you mention the other, non-weapon dangers that helmets protect from on a battlefield. Until the recent issue of the MICH helmet, it was common for US special forces to wear Pro-Tech skateboard helmets in CQB environments instead of the more bulky PASGT helmet that was standard issue. The reason being that neither could stop rifle rounds, but the plastic Pro-Tech helmets were lighter, had better visibility, and provided much better cushion against bumping into doorways - a greater danger for special forces clearing rooms than enemy headshots were. Even though the MICH is out now and designed to meet spec ops needs, they apparently still use plastic helmets for things like rock climbing in Afghanistan.
@JifftasticGhozt
9 жыл бұрын
I learned a lot about different head protection throughout history from this video. Every one he releases seems to be filled with things I enjoy.
@L.J.Kommer
9 жыл бұрын
I think having the heroes wear very recognizable helmets, like the Hound's in Game of Thrones. There's a lot of ways to make armor look unique. I think it'd make the movie more interesting, and the costume departments could have more fun.
@locchieppese
9 жыл бұрын
I remember an account about William the Conqueror taking off is helmet to show his soldiers he wasn't dead... In movies they need to do that constantly
@yetanother9127
9 жыл бұрын
***** There are accounts of several historical figures (major and minor) taking off their helmets to show their troops that they survived, and then immediately getting decapitated by an enemy.
@williamchamberlain2263
5 жыл бұрын
Snipers
@eckhardson
7 жыл бұрын
Once we had a demo performance on a Students' Day at my university with my HEMA group. I did not have a helmet, but a steel sword and a shield. And some armour, mostly padded. My "opponent" wore a full gothic plate armour. His weapon was a one-handed arming sword; no shield or buckler. Rather, he would try to block my shield and grapple with the left hand. He did not attack my head very much, of course, to not hurt me. I used every kind of attack I could think of to make him fall over and hit the (very few) gaps whenever possible. Suddenly, one frome the audience shouted: "The knight guy knows NOTHING! He's losing! Stupid guy!" In fact, he was the head of our group back then, our instructor, and one of the most skilled fighters I have ever known. If it had been a real fight, he would have hit my head more than once and, what else, would have beaten me in seconds. Well, at least we could show that you are not terribly slow if you have a plate armour that fits well and you are used to wearing it. Helmets are great, guys :)
@96dnibrats
10 жыл бұрын
haha the movies where the characters don't wear helmets piss me off too
@animematt99
10 жыл бұрын
I look forward to videos that you do on armour. I would also love to hear you talk about the types of helmets through out the ages, from viking style (No horns allowed!), the barbute, etc.
@moffxanatos6376
10 жыл бұрын
That was one thing that worried me about the Iron man movie when it was coming out, holywood seems to have an irrational hatred for helmets on anything but faceless mooks or villains, Spider-Man looses his mask in every climactic fight, however, they FINALLY used the HUD idea I had seen used in comics (not just Iron man but also places like Star Wars for stories from the Stormtrooper's point of view, where they have Iron man like HUDs as well) an Historical/Fantasy variation could work as well just without all those holographic interface fiddly bits, simply have that same head close up with a black background and some light on the face coming in in the shape of the visor over the eyes (not bright enough to bother the actor though obviously), you'd instantly get the effect of their expressions while allowing them to wear full helmets. Aside from the first movie they've been quite good at keeping Iron Man's helmet on even in climactic fight scenes.
@Cabochon1360
10 жыл бұрын
Good video. I was watching "Kingdom of Heaven" the other day, and supplied some of my own dialogue: "They're about to attack! All right,boys, take your helmets off! And you -- throw away that shield!" (When soldiers of Jerusalem are rushing to try and hold a breach in the wall, one of them inexplicably throws his shield away before he gets there.) You can have full facial protection, or you can have a wide field of vision and ease in breathing. In SCA fighting, many of us compromise by having barred grills on our helmets. It would have been easy for a medieval armourer to make those; but they wouldn't be very sure against arrows. Probably why you don't see them in contemporary pictures (except for some specialized tourney helms in the 15th century).
@ShiningDarknes
10 жыл бұрын
Nah, only the important guys need to take their helmets off. Shields and helms are for the extras.
@Zamolxes77
10 жыл бұрын
On this note, there is a movie I can think of, when during the battle scenes all heroes wear helmets : "The Messenger - Joan of Arc Story" by Luc Besson - all but Jean. Now granted, they wear helmets with no visor, so part of the face is still visible, but I particularly like how Besson gave each hero a specific and easily recognizable type of armor. La Hire wears this awesome, massive black spiky thing, Jean has this "feminine" elegant plate with chain parts, Duke of Alecon has this amazing richly decorated plate with lions of France, I think, on his chest, Marshall Gilles de Reis armor is similar to Jean's but bulkier, black, with tall shoulders and he wears a mail helm, etc. I hold that movie in a very high esteem, but because it was made by a french director, it didn't enter main stream media, so not many people know about it, although Dustin Hoffman got a Oscar nomination with it.
@MstrCorrin
10 жыл бұрын
something I noticed with the style of helmet you had in this vid. With visor up, it provides a large deflecting cone to head on slashes - especially those coming in over a misplaced shield. Such an attack may force the visor back down but a small price to pay to not only avoid a cut but also transfer a lot of the energy away from the head.
@HandleMyBallsYouTube
9 жыл бұрын
''People shooting weapons at you'' Thanks now i have an image in my head of a someone shooting a dude with a gun that shoots a gun that shoots a bullet..
@CliventheTraveller
9 жыл бұрын
pitkane100 Worse, from "Speed": "You have a hair trigger aimed at your head. What do you do?" Answer: laugh that he d/n have the rest of the gun.
@BloodyCrow__
9 жыл бұрын
pitkane100 Trebuchet that shoots a Catapult that shoots a ballistas that shoots crossbows that shoot crossbow bolts.
@HandleMyBallsYouTube
9 жыл бұрын
***** How about a trebuchet shooting a catapult shooting an undead pox infected burning cow strapped to a ballista shooting flaming crossbows that shoot kinves that split into smaller knives? Is this getting out of hand yet?
@Xandros999
9 жыл бұрын
pitkane100 We must go deeper.
@HandleMyBallsYouTube
8 жыл бұрын
Xandros999 I usually go balls deep and no deeper but whatever floats your boat.
@andrewgillis3073
3 жыл бұрын
At the battle of Wisby, the local militia stayed in the city. The defenders were mostly farmers and tradesmen who had a hodge podge of (outdated) armor. Accounts say the defending soldiers were so tightly packed, the dead couldn't fall down, which accounts for skeletons with multiple fatal wounds. I've done re-enactment in an armet, and was surprised at how well it deflected blows. However, I think a good blow with a real sword square on would probable ring my bell. There are accounts of leaders opening their visors or taking off their helmets to prove to their soldiers they were still alive and in the fight. But yes, helmets are the first bit of kit on should get.
@Altrantis
10 жыл бұрын
Well, when you see earlier periods, when metal was less common and thus the use of armor more limited, you see that, after the shield, which was basically mandatory, the first thing people would use was a helmet. Seems the bare minimum you'd want is a helmet and a shield. The following thing is perhaps a chest piece, probably mail.
@TemenosL
10 жыл бұрын
I would agree. I would think spear, shield, helmet, etc. would be the beginning of a list of priorities of things to get for the cost it took to get them.
@Dorfjunge
10 жыл бұрын
You made me buy a helmet for my bike! xD
@scholagladiatoria
10 жыл бұрын
Good! I cycle (I used to cycle 15 miles every day in central London) and I would never do so without a helmet. I have heard of too many people getting a bump on their head and dying or ending up with brain damage when a helmet would have saved them.
@LionofCaliban
9 жыл бұрын
scholagladiatoria I know of a friend who ended up with quite minor, though hilarious injuries due to a helmet and why I wear them to this day. As it turns out, being swooped by a magpie and having a helmet will give you a very scratched back of the neck and a seriously confused bird.
@REVAN2338
10 жыл бұрын
Greatly overlooked element, that's had a small reduction in usefulness since the introduction. But still an interesting topic for sure, everything you mentioned was more then correct, Awesome stuff.
@enjoythestruggle
10 жыл бұрын
It's also very important to wear gloves for protection. (Sorry - I couldn't resist :p)
@chasecharland1160
5 жыл бұрын
Henry V, his "physician" who saved his life was in fact a dishonored criminal locked in the tower of London, for being a traitor, and a thief who specializes in lock smithing and picking, and it was for these skills he was chosen to create and use a devise capable of dislodgeing an embedded arrow head 3 inches into a man's cheek bone. He was told, succeed or be executed. Needless to say they both survived.
@vinland5558
10 жыл бұрын
People not wearing helmets in medieval stuff gets me really frustrated. The tv series for Game of thrones is a big offender of it, Stannis besieges the largest city in westeros, runs in with no helmet or shield and is the first one to climb the ladders while arrows and large rocks (That crushed another man's head in a few seconds earlier) rain down all around him.
@Cambria358
10 жыл бұрын
I saw thats him believing the Red Womans talk of him being invincible
@JimbobHarrigan1984
10 жыл бұрын
One of the best forms of head protection was the standard Roman legionary helmet from the 1st and 2nd century AD, even though it was open faced, the back of your head and neck was protected as the sides of face, later Roman helmets even had a cross beam built in to protect form slashing weapons
@viktorsilva4017
3 жыл бұрын
I want to add my story here, and let it serve as an example: in 2017 i was at a small medieval event here in Brazil, we were going to have a mock battle but with weapons made of hard plastic, instead of iron or steel, for safety reasons. I was fighting a guy with a plastic bladed dane axe, but he glued 3 "blades" of plastic to make it more sturdy and less bendable. It was not an attack, and it was not a metal weapon. I overstepped to attack and in reflex he just moved the axe forward, in the video it's all confusing and hard to understand, but the blade touched my head and i just fell down, not because i blacked out from impact, i just fell from the pain. Hard head aches that day. 3 years later and, i swear, right before the ending breakdown from Domination, i blacked out, had a convulsion at my work, tests and tests later, my skull is still scarring, from that day and now i take anticonvulsives for at least 3 years, it's been about 7-8 months now. Wear them fckn helmets
@ryanturner3176
8 жыл бұрын
To quote... I think it was the 4th edition Warhammer 40k rulebook. "Look at me, i'm a space marine commander, I don't need a helmet" (A reference to adding the "poison gas" rule to a map)
@icantnamethingswell1778
8 жыл бұрын
To be fair 1) 40k is hardly about absolute or sometimes even remote realism 2) A space marine's head is dramatically tougher and more resilient by leaps and bounds than a normal human head. that being said, in an impossible hypothetical situation where I was a space marine, I would opt to have that extra bit of ceramite etc. on my head in battle
@tapioperala3010
8 жыл бұрын
In addition to this, almost every single Astartes uses a helmet in battle; usually the only times when an Astartes doesn't have a helmet on in combat is when it has been damaged beyond battlefield repairs. Not to mention that Astartes helmets are equipped with ie. noise and flash compensating equipment, which are *extremely* important even in a modern combat, let alone in a combat style of the Astartes (which really is that much nastier form of "shock and awe").
@ryanturner3176
8 жыл бұрын
I believe the quote from that old rulebook was in reference to the battlefield addition known as "poison gas". which would deal damage to each model not wearing a helmet, and at that time one of the few space marine models not wearing a helmet was the commander, because he looked cooler without one.
@genericfakename8197
10 жыл бұрын
Maybe the skeletons found with head wounds were the poorest of the ranks and could not afford any armour whatsoever, and the fact that they were poor and perhaps deemed dispensable by their leaders, would explain why they were left on the battlefield to rot while their richer comrades were carried off to have proper burials. (just pure speculation, I have no prior information of this battle, only what was mentioned in this video)
@Meeko1010100112
9 жыл бұрын
It's kinda weird how little we know about what a peasant went into battle with. Did his wife make him a leather gambeson, and he bought a spear and cheap helmet from the smithy in case he got conscripted? Oddly, we don't know. The most numerous soldier, perhaps one who saw more action in their life then the knights leading them (between getting conscripted, the town getting attacked by a roving army, and brigands, it seems possible), and we have very little to go off how they were equipped. I find it hard to believe there was enough knights to fill up just the standing medieval army, let alone the armies of the crusaders.
@SooSneeky
9 жыл бұрын
Meeko1010100112 I believe men-at-arms (professional soldiers) were the mainstay of most medieval armies, they fought alongside knights and generally were armed with a variety of weapons and armour. Peasants were mostly only used as levies and (as far as I know mainly in Europe) archers/crossbowmen
@yetanother9127
9 жыл бұрын
Meeko1010100112 Kettle hats. Many, many kettle hats. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kettle_hat (They could be made cheaply and quickly, and were practical and effective in scenarios that the average levied infantryman could expect to face.)
@vmfjru47
10 жыл бұрын
Love these history videos! More plz!
@PsylomeAlpha
10 жыл бұрын
the way movies could circumvent the need to show the heroes' faces is to give them some more ornate helmets, and give them equal levels of screentime with their helmets on.
@Fluffy52600
5 жыл бұрын
About those head injuries you mention Matt, maybe they were post-mortem? The guy's dead early in the battle, and one of his buddies who has survived up until that point swings his sword/axe at another living enemy. The blow misses or is deflected, and ends up striking the dead man on the ground. (More likely to happen with a missed spear strike aimed at the feet, or arrows flying around) Not all damage done to bodies occurs whilst the body lives.
@heraclid13
8 жыл бұрын
I read a very interesting article on Henry VIII in which it attributed his apparent personality change to his participation in jousting and some serious injuries he received on a few occasions. It is now thought that he suffered traumatic brain injuries that altered his personality.
@Sid_Black
8 жыл бұрын
A helmet also comes with a sortof "moral boost". It is the same with gloves. Even if they are thin, it gives you somewhat more confidence in your grip. Same with a helmet. Just having one on your head makes you feel a bit more confident.
@brianfuller7691
3 жыл бұрын
How important is your head? That's the important of a helmet. The compromise of helmets has been protection and vision..
@wojtekimbier
8 жыл бұрын
Before people get confused, in the video Matt talked about World War 1 "tin helmets" but they were obviously steel, not tin. A British helmet was nicknamed "tin hat" by some of the soldiers, just a funny name for lolz. I hope nobody got an idea that tin was considered a material suitable for ballistic protection
@psychedashell
10 жыл бұрын
The wwii p51Mustang has an interesting story about weighing protection against visibility, it's the reason they swapped from the ridgeback to the bubble canopy.
@rashindus
10 жыл бұрын
Notable exception to that were Polish commanders, who traditionally didn't wear helmets. It can be seen on Battle of Orsza painting, where you can recognize men-at-arms commander Jan Świerczowski by uncovered head, golden chain and mace in hand.
@fifteenthirtysix1792
9 жыл бұрын
I love your videos! It'd be awesome if you put pictures on the screen as you were speaking as examples!
@stuckupcurlyguy
9 жыл бұрын
I think you might be right about the head injuries at the battle of Towton, the wikipedia page at least notes that the Lancastrians threw off their helmets and armour to flee faster from the Yorkists, and the Yorkists didn't take any prisoners.
@sushanalone
10 жыл бұрын
Ive always noticed. We are fairly fragile Beings, and our appetite for slaughter and violence far exceeds our natural buildup.
@frankbongio
7 жыл бұрын
Wow, that was actually quite profound. Congrats.
@williamchamberlain2263
5 жыл бұрын
Very true, and well put. But that's going to ratchet up in synch with the physical ability and resilience of any species or population that engages in actual destructive combat (as opposed to posturing-only): if humans were twice as tough, we'd just evolve and/or learn to strike twice as hard, otherwise the combat wouldn't be decisive. e.g. bears, lions. The only way I can think of to tone down the violence in a combative species is through cultural convention. On the other hand, great white sharks don't generally go in for combat, so maybe there's a mutual-fatality-probability threshold that makes combat impractical. Maybe if we'd invented contact-fused fragmentation grenades before spears, for example.
@thiagoknofel8982
9 жыл бұрын
You do really good work with this videos...
@jackrice2770
Жыл бұрын
I expect Matt snorts with laughter, like I do, every time he watches a Medieval battle scene in movies. It would be suicidal not wear a head protection of some kind. (I didn't realize that wearing a turban in combat was like tying a pillow on your head. Hey, go with ya got.) And of course in melee combat, you need maximum peripheral vision. I suspect the reason leaders got shot in the face was because they lifted their visor so as to better assess their tactical situation and, yeah, with a bunch of arrows flying around...You must take risks in war. Helmets can be a liability in the age of percussive weapons. Story is that in North Africa Patton once chewed out his men for wearing their helmets unstrapped. He insisted they fasten their chin straps. Later an aide told him the men had found that the shock wave from an explosion could lift the helmet backward with enough force to break the wearer's neck. The next day Patton issued a general order that chin straps need not be fastened. The WWII German helmet was called the 'neck-breaker' because an enemy could approach from behind, seize the front of it and yank backwards with enough force so that the little 'lip' on the back would act as a fulcrum and snap the cervical vertebrae quite neatly. I'm sure the German war department designers thought that lip on the back gave extra protection. Reality beats theory again.
@commandopengi
9 жыл бұрын
You could headbutt with a helmet on or in seen in some modern day combatives where headbutting with a helmet as a improvised weapon in grappling ranges.
@ForgottenFirearm
10 жыл бұрын
You know, the more I learn about medieval warfare, the more I appreciate the attention to detail in the Berserk anime.
@JerryJr65
9 жыл бұрын
Helmets get really complicated because there is so much more than just protecting the cranium that needs to happen for them to be effective. Helmets from thousands of years ago also faced the same problems that we still face now of trying to minimize the energy transfer going through it into the skull & neck, which could still be debilitating & fatal even without penetration. The perfect helmet still eludes us, but i think it is funny & really creepy too that the USA now uses the same basic design as the old German helmets of the early 20th century. It speaks volumes when the police show up at your door dressed like Waffen SS!
@jimheaton9503
9 жыл бұрын
It's older than that, really. The "coal scuttle" style helmet is pretty close to a 15th century sallet (open faced, not visored)
@HipposHateWater
9 жыл бұрын
***** Then again, Nazi-Germany barely modified the Renaissance-era Sallet to get it, so you could just as easily say the police are showing up at your door dressed like wannabe knights. Those nerds. :p
@yetanother9127
9 жыл бұрын
***** Even more ironically, the actual Bundeswehr (German military), who are notable for distancing themselves from the Nazis as much as possible, were eventually convinced to adopt a Stahlhelm-style helmet, mirroring other nations.
@JerryJr65
9 жыл бұрын
Jonathan Hughes And thanks again you, and every one else who replied to my statement. I was just trying to communicate a perception i may have developed in childhood. I i'm in my 40's -old enough to remember the films where the guys with the rounded helmets were the home boys, & the classic, saucer helmets were the Brits & the many other nations they represented. The bad guys -the Germans, had that distinctive, cool looking helmet. Our swat teams now have that same style helmet, and they dress in black. And they break in to your home without a warrant, shoot people, and they cover for each other over the incident. If it were just the similarity of style i would have figured it was purely functional. It is a great helmet design. But add all it's baggage with it, i believe it was adopted here in the States for intimidation factor as much as anything else. Again, thank you all for letting us have an actual conversation about it.
@WillKrcelic
4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for inspiring me to wear a helmet on my motorcycle
@HeadsFullOfEyeballs
10 жыл бұрын
Alternative theory for the head wound thing, maybe: Those wounds may have been rarer than other injuries, but people who received head wounds were more likely to die on the spot and be left on the battlefield, whereas other kinds of injuries took longer to die from, and so they recovered or died somewhere else.
@pradanap.m.3195
10 жыл бұрын
I wouldn't call head wounds "rarer" since the head was (and is) almost always a highly exposed target. For anybody not in the front rank, missiles or fragments travelling in an arc are most likely to hit the head, while in hand-to-hand combat the head is THE single most practical target to go for. By virtue of its location, a helmet generally provides much more protection than what it costs in terms of weight or materials.
@HeadsFullOfEyeballs
10 жыл бұрын
Well, the head is a popular target, but it's also the part of the body most likely to be protected by armour. So I suppose it's a question of how much the better protection compensates for the popularity of the target! Another reason for the frequency of head wounds in skeletal finds like that may be that getting hit anywhere else has a good chance of not leaving a mark on the skeleton, whereas the head is all bone.
@lanzhimself
10 жыл бұрын
Would you be willing to do a vlog of putting on a suit of full plate? It is my understanding that it is quite a lengthy process, and I'm sure it would be interesting to watch.
@undertyped1
10 жыл бұрын
I love that houndskull helmet.
@edi9892
10 жыл бұрын
I was really surprised when I could try on a sallet and a close helm and discovered that the latter felt much lighter. This is probably due to better weight distribution (it goes down to the neck)
@Aarchemon
10 жыл бұрын
poor oberyn.
@gordonlawrence3537
9 жыл бұрын
Actually for both road racing and time trials helmets were mandatory as far back as 1982 when I started racing. Not sure ho long before that they were mandatory.
@psychiatry-is-eugenics
3 жыл бұрын
Also possible that they got hit with a hammer designed to kill someone wearing a helmet
@frankharr9466
7 жыл бұрын
I wonder if anyone's ever done a production of Henry V with the scaring. I'm now imagining a line of solders, hunckared behing their shields, pushing forward though a missile barage. With lots of tinking as things bounce off the shields and helmets.
@theguileraven7014
8 жыл бұрын
Would Oberyn have survived without a helmet? Anyways, logical reasons aside; a full suit of armor but no helmet has always looked completely ridiculous in my opinion.
@Panzervagon
10 жыл бұрын
Many modern helmets (including those used by the U.S.) can't stop a round from a 9mm handgun, however are better at catching and stopping shrapnel. Though the Russians I believe at some point in the 90's or somewhere abouts had a positively heavy steel helmet that could deflect most rounds at an angle. (it weighed something like 3 kilos, from what I can recall).
@ThePeacemaker848
10 жыл бұрын
I think battle of Towton they probably had alot of headwounds because no quarter was given. A soldier who is down would have been subsequently killed by striking the head.
@markswamy6830
10 жыл бұрын
Holy shit, that is an interesting story about Henry the VIII.
9 жыл бұрын
v
@jvonsimontheii61
7 жыл бұрын
Seán O'Nilbud eww
@elijahoconnell
7 жыл бұрын
A grill on the face part of the helmet is the best
@scholagladiatoria
7 жыл бұрын
Best for what? Not for protection against being stabbed or shot in the face surely?
@elijahoconnell
7 жыл бұрын
scholagladiatoria my train of thought was going towards me thinking of almost unrestricted breathing and seeing whilst at the same time protecting your face against slashes or strikes, kinda like a kendo men or maybe even a fencing mask
@wakaka2waka
10 жыл бұрын
I don't think the lack of helmets are the most annoying thing in movies. The most annoying thing is seeing weapons slash/pierce through solid armor like it was butter or absent. It's very annoying.
@PolluxA
10 жыл бұрын
The bloodies battle in the medieval period was The Battle of Towton. However, The Battle of Watling Street was the bloodiest with numbers estimated at twice that of The Battle of Towton, if not more. Towton numbered 28 000 killed. Watling Street 60-80 000. It's easy to remember both. Watling Street AD 61. Towton 1461.
@hjorturerlend
9 жыл бұрын
PolluxVarangir hmmmmm, I take that number with a huge grain of salt... The Romans sometimes had a bad habit of greatly exaggerating enemy casualties while doing the opposite for their own, especially during the late republican period, but occasionally other periods too - Pydna, Magnesia and the last battle with Mithridates the Great are the best examples. Magnesia for example: 30.000 trained soldiers can´t kill 50.000 of the 70.000 enemy trained and experienced soldiers with only 349 casualties, that´s just not possible x) Personally, I think it has something to do with the fact that the Roman generals were politicians - they exaggerated their victories to win a good post in the next election.
@dmytroy
10 жыл бұрын
For the War of the Roses, is it possible that most of those head wounds are inflicted by heavy 2h weapons like pike, halbers etc? Even wearing a nice helm if you take a full on blow from a polearm it will probably at least give you a massive concussion if not a fractured skull
@joependragon
10 жыл бұрын
Please, DO tell us more about amor :D
@AGermanFencer
10 жыл бұрын
Beautiful Hundsgugel that ! Im going to have mine made in summer :) after the one in the wallace collection :D *excited* awesome vid, as always ;)
@Briselance
9 жыл бұрын
01:27 : In fact, the French issued metal helmets to their infantymen before the Germans. The French had the Adrian modèle 1915, while the Germans had the Stahlhelm 1916. :-)
@yetanother9127
9 жыл бұрын
Briseur De Lance Even the "kepi" caps that preceded the Adrian sometimes had metal rings to both maintain the shape and protect the top of the head.
@TheSamuraiGoomba
10 жыл бұрын
Armor always feels lighter when you're wearing it. 15th century armor would have been amazing. Aside from specialized weapons, soldiers were practically invincible... Until good guns came along.
@pradanap.m.3195
10 жыл бұрын
But reasonably effective firearms were already fairly widespread by the time full plate harnesses were developed! A 15th-century Western European battlefield without firearms would have been a rather unusual sight indeed, and a siege without gunpowder artillery would have been almost unthinkable.
@johncarper2816
10 жыл бұрын
In the 20th century, mass production context, I've wondered how consciously helmets were designed for recognition. The British tin hat and French Adrian were both quite distinctive compared to the German Stahlhelm. Seems like that ought to have been useful during a trench raid or while bombing up the traverses. As an aside, I've heard that Free French forces in WWII tried to get Adrians in place of their US helmets, as they wanted the Germans to know just whom they were fighting.
@LutzDerLurch
8 жыл бұрын
+John Carper I believe in WWI the germans had better technology to stamp the helmet out of a steel plate, without it overstretching and breaking/tearing in the process..
@johncarper2816
8 жыл бұрын
+LutzDerLurch That could be. It does seem that the Stahlhelm design was a very successful one. Completely coincidentally, I was reviewing a US Army Medical Corps discussion of the topic just yesterday, and it seems that some US designs during WW1 were rejected because they resembled it too closely. history.amedd.army.mil/booksdocs/wwii/woundblstcs/chapter11.htm
@metamaggot
8 жыл бұрын
those pigsnout helmets must be pretty good for headbutting
@TheSpaghettiKnight
8 жыл бұрын
Watching this feels really weird after Skall's bike accident.
@qfromqanon
10 жыл бұрын
Where did you buy this particular bascinet? I've seen a lot on many different websites, but most are either weigh to big or are just aesthetically unpleasing. This one though, looks perfect!
@RageEngage
10 жыл бұрын
If only the Red Viper of Dawn watched this video
@BigMikeMcBastard
10 жыл бұрын
Dorne.
@gunshyking
9 жыл бұрын
The Mountain could crush steel just as easy as his skull. The dude chopped a horse head off with one blow and made a man see his own entrails with a mighty chop The Mountain is basically Superman.
@NonApplicable1983
9 жыл бұрын
The mountain is a human with a rather painful glandular disorder. He's strong, but not inhumanly so. That being said, he could have just lifted the visor. In the books Oberyn wears a visorless helmet anyways.
@rogerbuss6069
5 жыл бұрын
I've always been curious why in a case of raising the visor on the helmet to breathe or see better in battle, that they didn't have "bars" or a "cage, similar to a hockey goalie mask added to the face of the helmet to protect better than having NOTHING when the visor was raised......Hmmm.
@MsDjessa
8 жыл бұрын
Really no reason to ignore head protection in pop culture. I mean Batman is very popular even though most of the time his face isn't shown. Boba Fett is really cool probably partially because of his helmet. And judge Dredd never shows his face under the helmet.
@icantnamethingswell1778
8 жыл бұрын
but muh animu
@6272355463637
8 жыл бұрын
But those are all competent heroes (or villains). Less competent heroes need their plot armor and you only get that when you're not wearing a helmet.
@DPSCRIVO
6 жыл бұрын
Would you rather a shield or a helmet if unarmoured? Heard a lot about how both are important but what if you could only have one?
@Radiator95
10 жыл бұрын
The mass of a helmet is also good to protect your neck from snapping about when you receive a strike to the head.
@dougmartin2007
9 жыл бұрын
Lots of doctors who specialize in concussions could confirm the mass of steel is why they never made helmets of leather. (At least no leather helms were ever found at dig sites.)
@LutzDerLurch
8 жыл бұрын
+Doug Martin There were leather helmets. Thick, boiled leather, waxed and polished, with metal chains wrapped around.
@dougmartin2007
8 жыл бұрын
Lutz, where were these found?
@LutzDerLurch
8 жыл бұрын
Doug Martin Well, for example american collections do hold a few specimen from the AWI era. Upon second reading of your comment, though, I have to admit, that they surcived out of the ground. But chains matching them were found.
@dougmartin2007
8 жыл бұрын
+LutzDerLurch Looking over the AWI stuff and I have to say most of the sources say anything made out of leather would have been a hat rather than a helmet. The Revolutionary War was in the period when armor was out of fashion is favor of lighter troops, so helmets were rarely used anyway (as mentioned in the video). That said, I could easily see why someone in the period would put some extra leather on their head for some protection simply because it would be better than nothing.
@rangerroy641
9 жыл бұрын
That is a beautiful "pig face" bascinet in your video. Could you possibly do a video on early i.e. pre- industrial revolution helmet suspension systems especially medieval period. Thank you for your videos and the time you take to make them.
@fleurdelispens
10 жыл бұрын
i have read and heard many conflicting information regarding the weight of medieval armor. Could you please make a later video where you talk about this?
@Tyler_Lalonde-
10 жыл бұрын
there was mail armor and plate armor. if you mean how much did full plate weight. it was around 50 to 60 pounds
@Tyler_Lalonde-
10 жыл бұрын
if thats true then thats not to much weight for the protection. what was the weight?
@Tyler_Lalonde-
10 жыл бұрын
if thats about twice the weight then the average would be around 40lb
@Tananjoh
10 жыл бұрын
Here is a nice survey of plate armour: www.dropbox.com/s/pnleb76ujycyw03/Notes%20on%20armor%20surveyed22a.pdf Here is a forum thread discussing the survey: www.myarmoury.com/talk/viewtopic.php?t=29043&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0 In addition to the caveats and "author's thoughts", note the comment in the thread that some armour may have been incorrectly weighed. Compare the weights for churburg 20 and churburg 18 without arming doublet that's mentioned in the thread and what is stated here: books.google.se/books?id=lqZ2J8lsSrYC&pg=PA72&lpg=PA72 Also note that a few of the suits of armour might already include mail haubergon (short mail shirt) or mail voiders. IIRC one of them from the Higgins museum had a haubergon, but I can't check with the collection database since Higgins have merged with the Worcester Art Museum and they haven't added the collection to the WAM's website.
@elgostine
10 жыл бұрын
that is quite interesting that you mention turbans... in the middle byzantine period (around the 9th to the 13th century) your average infantryman was generally suggested to wear a kamelukion, i.e a thick felt cap, plu,s a turban the fact you mention turbans as being quite cutresistant (and i'd certainly believe that the built up cloth yould certainly help dampen the IMPACT of a weapon
@elgostine
10 жыл бұрын
what you are saying, seems to suggest that the byzantine army was making a good decision, having their rank and file troopers, and their lighter cavalry, wear this type of headgear (of course there were those who could not afford a metal helmet)
@Brainimplodes
10 жыл бұрын
Why do I think of Orlando Bloom in both LotR and Kingdom of Heaven the moment he mentioned long flowy hair? lol
@ramisabreur7961
10 жыл бұрын
Hello! i think that the shield is another important protection for soldiers.......... but unlike helmets ( or at least protective turbans and headgear) the shield faded away from european battlefield by the end of the medieval or early rennaissance era. So by the time of the Napoleonic wars ,Cavalry relied only on their swords to fight against other cavalry or infantry.However, some Asian warriors like sikh still used the shield in the 19th century. Can you please explain why did the shield dissapeared despite it gives the fighter a great advantage? ( using the shield and sword is far better than using a sword alone)
@MikaelDryden
10 жыл бұрын
Gunpowder. With the development of firearms muskets started to become more powerful and more common on the battlefield, making many forms of defense obsolete. Shields started to become smaller to be more maneuverable in combat and duels but eventually disappeared, since no shield can block a bullet.
@edi9892
10 жыл бұрын
I guess that europeans employed more firearms. I heard that they rather reloaded than charged with their sabres or bayonettes...
@ramisabreur7961
10 жыл бұрын
MikaelDryden First thnx for answering............. I know that shield can provide no protection against firearm.......... but i think it is still useful in hand to hand combat........ for example During the Napoleonic wars cavalrymen still fight with swords from horseback...... i think a shield and sword are better than a sword alone........ as i stated the indians still used armour and shield during the british -sikh wars :)
@Darkninja282
10 жыл бұрын
Bairi Rami Depends on the shield a large Aspis shield wouldn't do much in the 1800's. Actually it looks more like a target and slows you down. So a shield and sword are better than a sword alone isn't always the case lots of depending factors. Like bullets or arrows if you are in warfare or not. And speaking of Aspis I wouldn't want to use one against a one handed sword. those straps are highly restrictive.
@kokofan50
10 жыл бұрын
Full-plate armor is likely what killed off the shield because once you have that robust and covering armor shields becomes dead weight. Are you going to to carry extra weight in to battle in a hand that you could be using for other things? Personally I know I'm to be using both hands on a long pole weapon if I could.
@ottopike737
6 жыл бұрын
if visors we down in close combat, then why did French knights ask Smiths to create a way to secure them after the battle of Agincourt?
@scholagladiatoria
6 жыл бұрын
What's the source for that?
@nemanjaarsic987
9 жыл бұрын
Great channel, i love evertthing, but might you doo something about the echo? The room you are in is making a echo, when i listen to you speak more then 10 min. my ears get tired... maybe its just me.
@Tananjoh
10 жыл бұрын
scholagladiatoria Suggestion for armour video: your thoughts about the study where they had people in plate armour on treamills (and the media reporting on it). rspb.royalsocietypublishing.org/content/early/2011/07/15/rspb.2011.0816 I'm interested in your experience about the weight on the legs being a problem and that the armour would restrict breathing (I have read other people's comments saying that they havent't felt that when they wear well fitting plate).
@brandy1999
10 жыл бұрын
Could you talk a bit about effectiveness of mail and plate armor against various kinds of missiles? I think there's a lot of common misconception about this out there and I and probably a lot of people would like to hear a more informed opinion.
@IanSinclair77
3 жыл бұрын
Watch Tods Workshop. His lockdown longbow and Joe shooting the a 160lb longbow at plate with various arrow types might be of interest
@MariusThePaladin
9 жыл бұрын
You'd be surprised at how important helmets are and howmany historical war leader see the significance of helmet. In high medieval time even an army of conscripted dirt poor peasant who couldn't afford their own proper weapon are issued with helmets of the same quality as professional soldiers or men at arms and such! It's almost hillarious to see/imagine a guy with pitch fork and wearing peasant tunic wearing knightly helmet, (hollywood will NEVER do it) but that's how important head protection actually is. Even nowadays, when armor are less significant, helmet is still and essential standard gear for soldier.
@iamfuckingyourwaifuandther2743
3 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately the helmet did not protect his hand.
@Skillabstinenz
10 жыл бұрын
Well, they are just movies. Sacrificing some realism for being able to see their faces, is a useful compromise IMHO. This problem is not limited to war helmets, but also surgical masks and other stuff as well. Dragon Age has the best solution I know. Fully armored while playing, but no face covering helmets in cut scenes and dialogues. How the helmets just (dis)appear, is still unrealistic though.
@dors.sc1
10 жыл бұрын
you can see it before madieval times, many soldiers who didnt wear body armor or wore little body armor did wear helmets
@boriskapchits7727
8 жыл бұрын
It's a pity you can never see the inside of the helmet, padding it has, straps, etc. It seems to be a real enigma. Ancient drawings never show it, in museums they never show it. The modern replicas sometimes do not have it at all. From my experience with modern helmets, you have to make a lot of adjustments to make it usable. How they did it then?
@TheShiz9797
8 жыл бұрын
problem is they would probably have been made of linen or leather, both of which deteriorate over time
@Caradepato
7 жыл бұрын
We know that many helmets had integral padding, usually padded linen, and we know that many helmets had straps, such as Montefortinos or Imperial gallics. I believe there are also mentions of hellenes wearing felt caps under their helmets.
@BeKindToBirds
Жыл бұрын
12:40 Could this also be the remains of soldiers who had received deadly blows through head protection and the armor was salvaged? Or perhaps these were the soldiers who could not afford protection and so were killed more often and left more remains even though they were a smaller percentage of the overall force.
@MsXizan
7 жыл бұрын
Until it rots. Then it rips. Re: Silk.
@WhatTheFarson
10 жыл бұрын
I remember reading somewhere that those who could afford to do so (i.e. knights) would wear a close-fitting bascinet underneath a larger helmet for added protection. In fact, the anecdote I attribute this to mentioned that Henry V used this sort of head protection at Agincourt, and it possibly saved his life after he sustained a blow to the head. Is there anything to substantiate this?
@pradanap.m.3195
10 жыл бұрын
By Henry V's era, the bascinet was no longer worn underneath a great helm (or at least not very often); it had become the principal head protection in its own right, and often furnished with a visor. He may still have had a padded arming cap underneath the bascinet, or the bascinet itself might have had a good lining and suspension; in either case his head would not have suffered the full force of the blow, and a potentially lethal strike was turned into a temporary inconvenience.
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