This guy is talking nonsense. The brain heart gut run very well on ketones.
@annettestephens5337
7 ай бұрын
Keto has always been a high fat diet and after a short adjustment period the human body does fine. I eat all animal products with all the fat that comes with my meat. It’s not that hard, honestly. I have had many other health problems completely resolved by eating this way. There is a growing movement of people who have become disillusioned by the nutritional advice that the ZOE team crank out and chosen to eat high fat/ low carb and regained their health.
@zamfirtoth6441
7 ай бұрын
Very true, they are currently becoming scientific dinosaurs rapidly. The big problem for them is that the people are waking up, and not just about nutrition.
@stevelanghorn1407
7 ай бұрын
Exactly. Yourself and many others besides. ZOE needs to have a nutrition policy rethink to offer a more balanced approach.
@SpindlyScoudrel
7 ай бұрын
The problem is you're talking about anecdotal evidence, not science.
@annettestephens5337
7 ай бұрын
It is my evidence though. I am not advising others, as these people are. I did follow the government advice of low fat / high fibre for many years and only since I dared to take my dietary health into my own hands have I seen marked improvements in my overall health, especially the calming of my gut inflammation.
@eddjcaine
7 ай бұрын
@@annettestephens5337I think if that works well for you, and you can adhere to it long term with no ill side affects (lipids e.g) then that’s absolutely fine. I don’t think there’s much to “wake up to” nowadays as the scientific literature examines all of these dietary approaches, and finds them all equally effective, statistically speaking. As you say, you have your own subjective truth I.e the thing that works for you, but I do believe that public messages need to weigh up both pros and cons of any approach, and that’s what Gardner does here. The idea that anyone needs to “wake up” suggests to me that you think this is the only correct approach, and frankly the mud slinging that goes on between these many camps is tiring.
@loomcc70
7 ай бұрын
I can't believe this guy. So much half information with an obvious bias
@JB-ip7vr
7 ай бұрын
I started Keto + Intermittent fasting in September 2023, I dropped 55lbs/4 stone/ 25kg so far on Jan 19th 2024. Blood pressure dropped 15 points. I can summarize it in the following way: - Don't eat processed foods - Avoid rapeseed oil, canola oil, vegetable oil, sunflower oil, non extra virgin olive oil - Consume instead Extra virgin olive oil, Ghee, butter, Extra virgin coconut oil, or avocado oil. - Consume nuts, seeds that are low carb high fat like pecans, walnuts, macadamia nuts - Consume eggs, avocado, tomatoes or sardines, for lunch - For dinner load up your plate high with keto friendly veg steamed broccoli, peppers, onions, tomatoes, mushrooms, asparagus, green beans take your pick - Pick a protein source - salmon fillet, chicken thigh, chicken breast, steak, pork, lamb. Don't eat too much of this pick a moderate amount, excess protein converts to sugar. - On top of this add extra virgin olive oil, nuts, seeds to increase the fat content - Supplement with electrolytes to avoid keto flu- magnesium, calcium, sodium, phosphorus - Supplement with psyllium husk powder to increase your fibre to slow digestion and increase nutrient uptake - Eat blackberries, raspberries with full fat greek yogurt for dessert.
@donwinston
7 ай бұрын
You are full of crap.
@anthonyhulse1248
7 ай бұрын
That’s basically my exact diet. 👍🏻
@rickduker4969
7 ай бұрын
I wonder why you need to supplement anything if your diet is healthy?
@RedDragon-eh8hx
7 ай бұрын
The reason to supplement was given! However, taking electrolytes to avoid the “carb flu” is only needed for the first few days while your body gets used to the low carbs (and excreting quite a lot of fluids). Not everyone gets it. From what I’ve seen it’s mainly those with a very high carb diet that suffers from it the most.
@donwinston
7 ай бұрын
@@RedDragon-eh8hx Is their a supplement for cardiovascular disease caused by wacko diets like this?
@girl_on_fire_x_x
6 ай бұрын
Jars of fat instead of creating ketogenic meals is just ridiculous. It's not hard to eat fatty cuts of meat and green veggies for dinner. Or fatty fish like mackerel with a salad for lunch. I feel like people just dont understand what ketosis is. High LDL is not a disease, nor does it directly correlate to heart disease in the same way as high Triglycerides do. Do you know what does directly correlate to heart disease? High sugar consumption/ high carb diet leading to T2 diabetes. Whole grains are not a necessity for longevity and health.
@andrewtaylor5639
7 ай бұрын
With the greatest respect to Zoe, why would you have an anti Keto man commenting on the keto diet. A better presentation would be to have a number of advocates proposing their views on various diets with scientific back up, and the viewer can then come to an informed decision. I am a little concerned Zoe is promoting a diet that is based on prejudice and preconceived ideas.
@Caladcholg
7 ай бұрын
There is clearly something suspicious going on here no?
@zamfirtoth6441
7 ай бұрын
Nothing surprising here, they cannot allow the other perspective because plant eaters would end up looking like idiots, or maybe more accurately, ideologues. The evidence is LOUDLY going against any of the proponents of eating indigestible fiber for your proper nutrition.
@stevelanghorn1407
7 ай бұрын
Precisely!👍
@garyroberts3859
7 ай бұрын
They do it because Zoe has no credibility.
@Caladcholg
7 ай бұрын
@@garyroberts3859 they have an amazing opportunity to save face and stop this nonsense, or they can become an international part of the dishonesty problem. Balls in their court.
@blaflupa
7 ай бұрын
Jonathan, this attempt at 'playing average' doesn't align well with the scientific theme. The constant use of basic metaphors and an unchanging tone is falling short. To elevate the channel's credibility, consider bringing in a host with more depth and versatility. It's time for a substantial change to enhance the overall quality.
@benjaminkoie2405
7 ай бұрын
The Netflix documentary, featuring ZOE, sadly mixes the climate change challenges with dietary recommendations. There is a powerful bias from ZOE to have us eat climate friendly food. In my opinion there is an unhealthy mix up of 2 important struggles. A keto diet with primary fat sources from olive oil, fat fish and minimized fat from dairy and meat seem to be completely disregarded. For whatever undisclosed reason Christopher Gardner/ZOE seem locked in their views that fully plant based is the only way to go. I am not convinced.
@ascarby
7 ай бұрын
money
@stevelanghorn1407
7 ай бұрын
Absolutely right! If they are promoting themselves as “science-led” and supposedly keeping up-to-date on the latest unbiased research (if it exists!) ZOE should make a genuine effort to be more balanced in their approach. They should also address the many who are achieving remarkable health improvements on diets that include red meat and animal-sourced fats etc. Instead they are becoming ever-more plant-centric.
@redragna3648
7 ай бұрын
@@ascarby Yeah it's money (not a whole lot of money in vegetables btw, but there is a ton in meat and dairy), when every study around the world shows that eating more fruits and vegetables is beneficial to health. But yeah sure, let's go with your theory that isn't supported by any evidence.
@Caladcholg
4 ай бұрын
@@redragna3648 If you think you can turn a higher profit on meat and dairy than you can on refined grains, you are out of your mind.
@rosemontgomery5029
7 ай бұрын
My PCP always tells me that my LDL is high, so I always remind him that my triglycerides are low and my HDL is high. That's generally the end of the discussion. My ratios between LDL/HDL/triglycerides are excellent. Why does the medical world (such as Dr Gardner) mention only LDL?
@delwoodkelp8590
7 ай бұрын
What is your HDL and LDL...How "high" is your HDL... I have a friend that had a HDL of 103... formerly told that was "good" but science now agreeing that high is bad.....
@RobertWinter2
7 ай бұрын
They only mention LDL because we have a drug for that.
@mintee8638
7 ай бұрын
Search "low carb down under ldl". I would be interested in both sides having a conversation on this topic.
@ssa8479
7 ай бұрын
@@RobertWinter2 Exactly! The med program tells your PCP your numbers are off the traditional recommendations, and the medicine for that. The doc's not thinking beyond that. Maybe a doctor or nurse who sees this can comment, but I heard that doctors bill based on the "complexity" of the patient. So no health conditions, bottom of the billing chart. As the number of conditions increases, the billing goes up and your insurer will pay ... or, in this days of deductibles and out of maxes, you will.
@juliebrown8375
7 ай бұрын
Although there was a hypothesis in the 1990s that suggested that HDL was protective to some extent, that hasn’t really been completely confirmed in subsequent studies. Measures like non-HDL cholesterol or total to HDL ratio aren’t as accurate for assessing risk as LDL or, even better, ApoB. However, the low carb community is clinging to the to the outdated idea, because it fits their beliefs better. pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/37437107/
@anthonyhulse1248
7 ай бұрын
The downsides of following the keto diet happen when you don't follow the keto diet. I eat a ton of dark leafy green veggies with my keto diet. Not sure where you guys get the idea that the keto diet lacks nutrients or fibre. I've healed my non-alcoholic fatty liver. I've got all my blood metrics back to normal. I've lost 60lbs. My blood pressure is excellent. Along with weight training and powerlifting, I am now stronger, fitter and healthier than I was for a couple of decades. Thanks, Keto and the Low Carb High Fat community.
@Jhumanghjngg
7 ай бұрын
Or maybe just thanks to losing 60lbs, stop eating crap and lifting? Guess that would be too simple
@littlevoice_11
7 ай бұрын
Agreed. Keto can have lots of non starchy vegetables, wholefood forms of fat, lots of fibre, EVO etc Fermented foods Nuts and seeds Fish A few berries Avocados Herbal tea Coffee Unsweetened drinks Everything Zoe recommends 😊
@stevelanghorn1407
7 ай бұрын
Well done! And you’re one of many. This is all a little plant-biased I suspect!
@anthonyhulse1248
7 ай бұрын
@@Jhumanghjnggor maybe I could only lose 60lbs while gaining muscle while on keto? How about that?
@anthonyhulse1248
7 ай бұрын
@@Beatrice-nx5ldyou can eat as many veggies as you want as long as you keep total carbs low. There’s not many carbs in cabbage or kale 🥬
@victorycall
7 ай бұрын
While I acknowledge that we shouldn't be willfully blind to the potential cardiovascular risks of eating an extremely high fat diet, "you won't like it and you probably can't keep it up anyway" are utter non-arguments. Also, I call shenanigans on needing to strictly limit protein to achieve ketosis. I am an age 51 woman, 130 pounds (59 kg) and I strive to eat a minimum of 100 grams of protein per day, and I am routinely in ketosis. That's more than twice the protein the US RDA says I "need," and more than the keto police says should be eaten. My husband very helpfully tells me when my breath smells like nail polish remover, and this is how I know I'm in ketosis. I eat meat, fish, eggs, cheese, nuts, and vegetables, and butter. By getting sufficient protein (and 100 grams is not "high protein" but merely sufficient at my age and size), I am going to stave off sarcopenia and osteoporosis. By maintaining low blood glucose and high ketones, I am going to stave off neurodegeneration including dementia, and keep my mood stable. By getting plenty of dietary saturated fat and cholesterol, I am supporting my hormones and will minimize the unpleasant side effects of the menopausal transition. Will I develop cardiovascular disease as a result of eating huge amounts of saturated fat? Time will tell. I've been eating this way about 4 years, I feel fantastic and I won't change. While I watched the video, I enjoyed my dinner of ground beef, brussels sprouts, and onions, with butter over all. Earlier for lunch, I had 2 cans of sardines. Breakfast was black tea with spices. Later on before I retire for the night, I might have some cheese, so I can sleep deeply and have some wild dreams. This is not necessarily a "typical" day for me, because a lot of days I eat One Meal a Day (OMAD), and I don't get hungry even when I don't eat all day. I'm delighted with my way of eating and I don't feel restricted or deprived in the slightest. Keto may not be a good fit for everyone, but for some of us it's given us the best health of our lives.
@stevelanghorn1407
7 ай бұрын
Absolutely right!👍
@mintee8638
7 ай бұрын
A few sources I found interesting on this is if you search, "low carb down under LDL".
@juliebrown8375
7 ай бұрын
Protein consumption triggers insulin release which blocks ketosis. It's not "shenanigans", just physiology. There's no need to go into ketosis to lose weight anyway, you'll "burn fat" if you just eat at a modest calorie deficit.
@robblankenstein6825
7 ай бұрын
Actually she's right. You don't need to do a epilepsy style keto diet to get into ketosis. Professor Bikman was correcting this idea years ago.
@victorycall
7 ай бұрын
@@juliebrown8375 I've got no need or interest to lose weight. I'm 130 lbs., 5'6". I adhere to my low carb way of eating (which often has me in ketosis) for all the reasons I mentioned in my original post: prevent sarcopenia and osteoporosis, maintain balanced mood and hormones. But since you brought it up, if eating at a modest calorie deficit were actually an effective, feasible way to lose weight, EVERYONE WOULD DO IT. Why doesn't basic calorie restriction work most of the time? People get too darn hungry cutting even a small amount of calories. What's one possible solution? Eat very low carb to greatly reduce the body's production of insulin, reducing hunger. Eat less AND be less hungry.
@jonathanhijlkema8247
7 ай бұрын
Right now I am trying to get of of a meat only diet into a more vegetarian keto diet, but I have been on a meat only diet for about a year and before that I was on a very low carb diet for about a year as well and it took some time to adjust. I had low energy, less sport performance and constant hunger, even right after a meal at first when I started low carb. I felt like I could not get energy out of The fats I consumed and even though I ate more calories than before I kept losing weight. Probably a portion of the weight was waterweight due to the decrease in muscle glycogen, but it continued for multiple weeks, so it probably went beyond that. But after a while I adjusted to the diet, my sport performance returned and I gained weight again. Now I don't notice any negative effects, and only have the benefits. For me the benefits mainly are a big reduction of health issues I could not resolve in almost a decade of trying everything I could think of. I had a lot of food intolerances which gave me heartburn, bloating, rashes, dizzynes, inflamed joints, hair loss a few hours after meals for multiple hours, pain in under my ribs around the liver or gallbladder, itchy skin and more unexplained issues. I only tried this diet after having tried a lot of other things, and having been to multiple health experts that weren't able to help. Although I think a vegan diet is great for the planet and the animals, it was for me the biggest trigger for my problems. All my symptoms got worse and more new symptoms like pain around my liver, rashes, hairloss and itchy skin after meals arose. The exact origin of my issues isn't one single thing, I don't blame veganism at all, and If I could point to one thing, it would probably be the rice and pea protein powder that had a bad effect on my stomach and bowels and seemed to start the explosion of health issues afterwards. But the true origin probably wasnt that, but a very long period of extreme diets. The diet I followed was mainly for sportperformance and before that for muscle building. The overload of carbs, sugars, pollutants perhaps and likely other factors like stress etc probably accumulated for a long while. I used to do semi pro sports and ate a very extreme diet which in the last few years before I also got a burnout/over training consisted of about 1200 grams carbs daily with a lot of veggies around 500grams, with about 150 grams of added protein from either powders, chicken, fish or dairy, which probably came with a lot of the above mentioned pollutants, but it also might have been a huge burden on my organs that enormous amount of food. However nothing showed up on blood tests, stool tests or other tests, besides some unexplained inflammation markers and low levels of white bloodcels, so that's just what I think might be the case. However after having taken out carbs my health markers in my blood returned to normal, and most of my other issues have disappeared or reduced in severity. The meat only diet, which I doubted and am against on ethical grounds, but I tried out of desperation actually resolved the most problems, far beyond the low carb diet. However I doubt it's the best diet, I don't enjoy only eating meat, and I think a diverse diet is probably best. So I am slowly trying different things to hopefully heal my body or my gut. I tried the Gasseri and Reuteri yoghurt, I make homemade kimchi, try to replace meat with cheese, seem to be able to handle some pumpkin seeds and chia seeds and so far things look to be going into right direction. However I still can't handle carbs, I tried some home made ginger thee and had awful bowel issues. Al in all, I am thankful for the carnivore diet person who convinced me to try it, or I would never have probably. So to anyone who has a similar issue, you might benefit from an individual approach, and not adhere to nutritional scientists with how I see it, after having watched 'You are what you eat' a ethical bias. I really like Zoe, but I don't think they gave the keto diet here a fair trial.
@anthonyhulse1248
7 ай бұрын
Good for you for being so thorough 👍🏻
@TNTpaintballCANADA
7 ай бұрын
Having a 40 year vegetarian offer his opinion on the keto diet wouldn't have any bias showing through would it? These kind of videos is why I don't watch ZOE much anymore. Too much "expert" opinion and not enough good science.
@jonathanhijlkema8247
7 ай бұрын
you could just eat cheese, its 50% fat, and has been proven to be heart and artery safe, but I guess it isnt plant based enough to be getting a fair shake here ;)
@victorycall
7 ай бұрын
Even the keto and carnivore communities seem to turn up their nose at cheese as a staple food, and I don't know why. It's delicious, ubiquitous, the macros are great, and it's inexpensive. I understand a lot of people cannot tolerate dairy, but that's no reason for the rest of us to avoid it. I often eat a half pound a day, or more. It's loaded with MCTs too; maybe this is why I'm in ketosis even when I eat "too much" protein.
@jonathanhijlkema8247
7 ай бұрын
@@victorycall it probably in a way falls in between the tribal food idiots that identify themselves by their diet. And thus doesn't really have the social media cheese propagandists lol. I don't know, it's probably not hip and has a bad rep, but I wouldn't be surprised if that is going to change
@victorycall
7 ай бұрын
@@jonathanhijlkema8247 I also believe that cheese will start to catch on in popularity with the low carb factions. It's just too optimal to disregard. There's a cultural memory in the USA of "government cheese" and it was not real pure cheese, it was more similar to Velveeta. Where I live, beef is shockingly cheap and I don't need to always choose cheese for affordability, but with the volatility of prices this is not always the case. Eggs go up and down in price extremes too. If meat and eggs become too expensive, cheese may stay cheap.
@TheAshtonjones
7 ай бұрын
Keto helped reduce my IBS symptoms, I lost 4 stone in weight, and I was never hungry. My cholesterol stayed the same on it, but I’m not sure it was helping my gut diversity. Zoe triggered my IBS, I am for ever hungry and I have piled on the weight again, but my cholesterol did drop a bit. Sadly I wasn’t able to stay on it long enough to have the gut retest. I think the moral is no one diet suits one person.
@hektor6766
3 ай бұрын
Blaming cholesterol, an anatomically produced sterol providing the basis for many hormones as well as tissue generation, for cardiopulmonary issues is like blaming your skin for the scar after you've been injured. Oxidation damages your arterial tissue, so cholesterol, foam cells, platelets and fibrin concentrate at that damage to effect repair. Even the plaque itself is not particularly dangerous, unless a chunks breaks off to become an embolism that may cause infarction. Arterial calcification is more of a concern than cholesterol levels.
@furnsidebarbel
7 ай бұрын
Its been proven that protein does not cause a big enough insulin spike to knock you out of ketosis. He should know this
@ssa8479
7 ай бұрын
I do a simple form of keto. Call it modified Mediterranean diet. Protein is the major focus, I don’t count the fat, don’t slather or pour it on. But 4 eggs a day, liver, beef, lamb, chicken, lots of fish will provide enough fats. And I do eat 2 cups of salad/dark leafy greens, a cup of non-starchy veggies. I’m in ketosis.
@TES-bt8sv
7 ай бұрын
I believe Dave Feldman is researching the phenomenon of increased LDL on Keto diets.
@robbanks1436
7 ай бұрын
It would be very interesting for them to have Nicholas Norwitz on with Dave Feldman to discuss this nascent research.
@rosemarylincoln2583
7 ай бұрын
@@robbanks1436it would be great!
@ascarby
7 ай бұрын
@@robbanks1436 they won't, because it doesn't fit their narrative and they would lose a lot of money.
@lewismcnicholas2631
7 ай бұрын
Seemed to me there was a lot of blurring between keto and carnivore here - you have plenty of cruciferous veg and plants on keto - kind of lost me when he regurgitated the LDL drivel from the 80s
@nigewright8246
7 ай бұрын
Zoe picking the same speakers again…! Get a variety of speakers try Dr David Unwin and his wife
@davidr1431
7 ай бұрын
For those who don’t know, Dr Unwin is a uk family doctor who has used a ketogenic approach to diabetes treatment in his practice with amazing and consistent results in diabetes remission and medication reduction.
@hektor6766
3 ай бұрын
They would destroy his bias.
@geraldfriesen5600
7 ай бұрын
I think stating the threshold for the Keto diet is eating at least 70% of calories in fat is disingenuous. Actually, when a person becomes "fat-adapted" the point is to consume less fat and burn more of your own fat. That is the point when it comes to weight-loss, you want to use your own fat as fuel. Done in the most healthy way, the keto diet becomes about providing enough nutrients for your body to be healthy while using up stored fat to fuel your body's energy needs.
@davidhopkins
7 ай бұрын
Amen! I got a bit lost in the idiocy of this video. Eat very few carbs, adequate protein, and as much fat as you need. No need for a percentage.
@anthonyhulse1248
7 ай бұрын
Exactly 👍🏻
@kazoz3520
7 ай бұрын
Gardner was pointing out the fact that not all low carb diets are ketogenic, that ketosis (measured by ketones in the blood) needs to be reached for a diet to be defined as ketogenic. Not only does the diet need to be low in carbs, it also needs to be very high in fat, as high protein in the diet increases insulin, & excess protein can be converted into carbs, preventing ketosis to be reached. It's a scientific definition - ketosis needs to be reached, otherwise it's not technically a ketogenic diet. As to the goal of a keto diet is in fat adaptation & burning stored fat & that diet fat calorie percentages are not needed, just as long as fat consumed is low enough for burning of stored fat, - you could say the same of any weight loss calorie restrictive diet, eg a low fat diet will also burn stored fat, if calorie intake is lower than expenditure. Ie it's not specific to a ketogenic diet.
@robblankenstein6825
7 ай бұрын
@@kazoz3520 out of date info. You can have more protein than if you are on an epilepsy style keto diet.
@tabletop9258
7 ай бұрын
🎯🎯🎯🎯🎯
@holly869
7 ай бұрын
You should look at new studies being done in high ldl. Keep learning as this is wrong information.
@mintee8638
7 ай бұрын
A few sources I found interesting is if you search, "low carb down under LDL".
@tekgrrl
7 ай бұрын
Ah, rolling out the old lipid hypothesis... Keto is great for metabolic syndrome, I think I'd die from inflammation if I didn't have a Keto lifestyle.
@bonniespeck
7 ай бұрын
And I reversed my SLE Lupus with the WFPB diet, no more inflammation. I think the common denominator is no processed foods. We are both proof that eliminating processed foods can make a difference.
@stevelanghorn1407
7 ай бұрын
Yes!👍
@ausmiku
7 ай бұрын
LOL. So much garbage here. Since 2023 the keto formula has changed. 90% of "keto" books and videos are out of date. Most health scientists now say the 75% fat ratio is wrong, and the protein ratio should be increased. It's difficult, inefficient and also uncommon for the mitochondria to covert amino acids to ATP (energy). Keto is not even the ultimate goal of fat burning, it's beta-oxidation. Ketones are the by-product of inefficient fat burning and disappear when people are fully fat adapted. And the concerns about high LDL and cholesterol have been debunked many times. This video is not with it. These guys need to do their homework.
@Caladcholg
7 ай бұрын
He is intentionally talking about the 'medical grade' keto for epilepsy because he wants it to seem like it's some ridiculously demanding and hard to follow diet. It's an act; anyone who knows the most cursory information about ketogenesis understands is about sugar elimination, and he has more than a cursory understanding. What you are saying is correct, but that destroys his 'total thumbs down' verdict, which was much more important for him to get out there than public health. Science advances one funeral at a time, ego or otherwise.
@MGNeff
7 ай бұрын
Sorry, but BS on several points. Prof Gardner is a well-know vegetarian / vegan advocate. The typical strawman argument from this group is to focus only on the very strict, therapeutic version of keto which is low protein. Most who are on a carnivore diet consider themselves on keto. A non-therapeutic version of keto doesn't need to maintain a strictly high level of ketosis all day long, it is more about shifting during the day. High carb diets severely inhibit ketosis, that is one of the reasons to go low-carb - metabolic switching. I've done considerable personal testing. A big chuck steak - for example - does not raise my blood sugar nor reduce my ketones over the course of a day, despite what Prof Gardner is saying. In fact, nothing that he is saying agrees with my personal testing campaign. It should be a hint that he is practically saying doing a keto diet is impossible, and yet so many are actually doing it. He's just shifted the definition of keto to exclude most of the people who are on keto. A "keto" diet was "discovered" at least 2 million years ago, and that is the only diet that humans and our ancestors were on until relatively recently. The possibility of continuously ingesting carbs like today was not really possible until the neolithic, and even then highly dependent on geographic region. The idea that a professor would say that the brain primarily needs dietary carbs is pretty ridiculous given that such a diet was historically impossible. Our ancestral lineage shifted into deeper ketosis on days not eating (which were many), milder ketosis when meat was available, and out of ketosis when the fruiting season was in. Humans are born in ketosis, and breastfeeding is considered a ketogenic diet of infants (infants have a very high switch rate for being in and out of ketosis). The human brain evolved in ketosis. Seems pretty strange that somehow that has become bad. Bonobo apes are ketogenic when feeding on fibrous plant matter, and shift out when the fruit is in, so a "keto" diet probably stretches back to at least the pan / hominin split 7 million years ago. Nutrition science will not advance so long as hard-core advocates for a particular diet approach such as prof Gardner continue to be presented as objective experts while really just doing brain-dead advocacy in disguise. I wouldn't trust a single study that he led, sorry. It's difficult to take a professor saying things that are obviously wrong or at least incredibly misleading. "keto flu" can just as easily be labeled "carb withdrawal".
@jacqui4green
7 ай бұрын
I believe that having Christopher Gardner discuss the keto diet provides a biased view. He is a long-term vegetarian, and his latest study was funded by Impossible Burger.
@davidhopkins
7 ай бұрын
If true, this is disturbing. Zoe should be providing some info about obvious conflicts of interest like this.
@prossi4216
7 ай бұрын
He is a strong supporter of the Mediterranean diet, based on a lot of evidence, like most nutrition scientists are. Ad hominem criticism won't save your diet from facts. Whether he personally is vegetarian or not it doesn't matter.
@stevelanghorn1407
7 ай бұрын
You said it!
@robbanks1436
7 ай бұрын
@@prossi4216you didn’t address the fact of the Impossible burger funding
@nicopadilla8082
7 ай бұрын
Airing this video without having the interviewee disclose his own biases degrades Zoe’s credibility
@clairerosey9921
7 ай бұрын
Ive done Keto, love it, it’s not so difficult as they say because fat has a small volume. You only need to balance 1 meal at a time and that can be done easily. It also cuts out seed oils which are inflammatory and highly processed… can only be made in a factory! I stopped doing Keto because of going through menopause I was advised by menopause specialists to increase my fibre intake. I never had toilet issues but decided to try and see if there were other benefits for my gut. Zoe seems to be weighted against animal products and I have found this is a much bigger challenge than dropping pasta and potatoes. I would like to see much more actual evidence that meat is so bad based on studies conducted no longer ago than ending up to 5 years ago, which had no links to the usual suspects ‘coca cola, Kelloggs, the sugar industry’ etc… with evidence which is cited to the study itself. Not because I don’t believe as much as I know how much better I feel when it’s included more.
@shiftgood
7 ай бұрын
Crazy... there is no requirement for Fiber in the human diet. You literally need 0g per day to be healthy... Its just material you cannot digest. If you're in ketosis all the benefits of SCFAs (that fiber/biome produces) are already provided by the ketones themselves... even more so.
@transbrown
7 ай бұрын
I am reluctant to criticize a world-renowned expert, but I am somewhat puzzled as to why William Benting (1796 - 1878) was not credited as one of the, if not THE, pioneers of the low-carb diet. I am also somewhat skeptical of the macronutrient percentages mentioned. I have been on "keto-esque" dietary patterns with fat intake of significantly less than 70 percent. Both my keto breath meter and keto blood tests indicated that I was in ketosis. I do concur that this diet is not suitable for everyone. As it turned out, I happen to be sensitive to high intake of saturated fats, which is why I now follow a different eating pattern. Overall, I would have expected a more nuanced answer from the professor.
@youbeever
7 ай бұрын
We, clinical/research scientists and clinicians in the unbiased scientific community, certainly do not consider the likes of Dr. Christopher Gardner, Dr. Neil Barnard, Dr. Greger, Dr. MacDougall, Dr. Walter Willett, Dr. Katz or Dr. Brooke Goldner (just to name a few popular one) world-renowned experts. They are like the Kardashians if you like. They became famous due to online exposure but certainly not due to their "exceptional knowledge". They lack integrity and are unable to dissociate their ideology/religious beliefs/conflict of interest/greed/career progression/thirst for fame from scientific facts. That statement can of course be fully substantiated by empirical facts. Otherwise we would not be saying it. It is actually irresponsible not to call out such so-called "experts" or channels that promote such kind of bias. Proving this is unfortunately beyond the scope of that comment. So feel free to disagree, it is what it is. I have commented in more length on other videos on this channel and elsewhere. I'll try to come back to this as soon as I can as there's a lot to say about this video. People like Christopher Gardner or Chris MacAskill (plant chompers channel) are just driven by ideology or religious beliefs first and then try to push forward any possible explanation or their version of "science" in order to fit their narrative. This is disingenuous, unethical and even criminal as it is affecting the health of millions. For instance it's laughable that Christopher Gardner had the audacity to say that "it would be unethical to carry out RCTs due to the danger that a meat based diet poses" while in the same breath being perfectly OK with a plant-only diet that excludes a complete food group (animal-based food). It is NOT a debate that plant-based food is nutritionally deficient compared to an unprocessed animal-based diet pound for pound. Yet he made that ludicrous statement. Where is the "science" in that? As I often say, even among "experts", common sense is not so common after all.
@davidr1431
7 ай бұрын
Not expected from this professor, that’s for sure.
@sarahsnowe
4 ай бұрын
People in the blue zones eat an average of 65% complex carbohydrates. Diet is only one factor in their longevity, but obviously carbs aren't the villain they're made out to be these days. Until recently most people weren't fat, and people all around the world ate a lot of geographically-specific carbs: wheat, rye, oats, barley, potatoes, corn, millet, and rice.
@austindenotter19
7 ай бұрын
We will come full circle and eat a balanced diet with the 4 food groups that we have had prescribed for decades now. The 1 issue that is forgotten is the lack of physical work and its affect on the body. Prove me wrong
@stracepipe
7 ай бұрын
Also, the amount of ultra processed food that we now eat.
@Atimatimukti
7 ай бұрын
I eat meat once in a while, eat carbs and fat ( olive oil) everyday with tons od vegetables and tons of fruits. I'm 61, never felt better. I don't eat wbeat or dairy at all. I walk every morning in the mountains for one hour and sit only for meals
@robbanks1436
7 ай бұрын
What are the 4 food groups?
@mariettanoordewier-kenkel5040
7 ай бұрын
I grew up in the Netherlands in the 60s and 70s. Everybody was putting sugar in their coffee and tea and in their morning porridge made of full fat milk. We had bread with cheese and jam for lunch, and some fruit. In the evening we had a full meal with potatoes, gravy, and often a sweet dessert. We all cycled, we walked, we almost never ate crisps or had soft drinks. Nobody drank wine or other alcohols at night, only at birthdays or parties, 1 or 2 small glasses. Nobody I knew was overweight back then. Look at the old pictures of people on the beach...
@ascarby
7 ай бұрын
the term 'balanced diet' is subjective and is based on flawed evidence with many conflicts of interest.
@simonround2439
7 ай бұрын
A few points that for his undoubted erudition, Chris has got wrong. Firstly he asserts that your body prefers to run on carbs. Certainly the body will attempt to burn carbs as a priority but that's not because it prefers them, it's because excess glucose is dangerous, therefore your body know it needs to be swept out of the bloodstream quickly. He talks about the keto flu as if this is an actual problem. A few people have mild symptoms when they change their diet, as you would when presenting a different kind of nutrition to your body. I never experienced this at all and those who do rarely have an symptoms for more than a couple of days. He says most people find keto unsustainable. I have eaten this way for a year and a half now. It is incredibly easy, tasty and there is infinite variety. To say otherwise is just propaganda. Then there is the saturated fat red herring. Firstly you do not have to even eat meat to be keto. You could easily be a keto pescatarian there are examples of keto vegetarian and even vegan diets. LDL does not necessarily become raised on keto. Many experience no rise in LDL and those who do usually find that it is accompanied by other positive markers such as higher HDL, lower triglcerides, lower blood pressure, lower blood glucose and weight loss. I am now leaner, fitter and more healthy than my pre-keto self. Not everyone will enjoy this diet but those who do will undoubtedly benefit.
@myopenmind527
7 ай бұрын
If he was talking at a medical conference he would have to declare any funding that he has received and any conflicts of interest.
@Meathead-10810
7 ай бұрын
I found carnivore is the best keto version for me, best health ever for 5+ years now.
@gene8194
7 ай бұрын
I am not sure how accurat is this, because a lot of people proofed with blood test of presence of ketones. Same time huge weight loss is registered as well. If the fat burning wouldn't happen how would our expert explain that people are loosing enormous amount of weight. I am not a doctor but definitely in my own experience with keto can confirm that the ketogenic diet happens even with much higher carb and protein intake.
@FreeFromAllThings
7 ай бұрын
Losing water. Water is bind to glycogen in the muscles, when you are on keto you lose mostly water in the first few weeks and months. This is very well known.
@gene8194
7 ай бұрын
@FreeFromAllThings glycogen is used up constantly, and our body can not store too much. It might be part of the weight loss, but not when people are loosing 50 kg or more.
@FreeFromAllThings
7 ай бұрын
@@gene8194 I didn't speak about the glycogen itself but about the ware which is bound to the carbs in your body.
@robcarhood
7 ай бұрын
@@gene8194Loosing weight is because they eat less than before. Whatever you want to call the diet.
@gene8194
7 ай бұрын
@robcarhood yes and no. If you eat less but little enough to not deplete your carb store you so you will never burn fat :)
@aejiongco
6 ай бұрын
We are different, I am not sold with Christopher Gardner, shying away from meat. So before you all swallow his findings, I would do more research. B12 is so important. You get that from meat. Just one example.
@richardbullanoff
7 ай бұрын
Interesting interview but am wondering if Dr. Westman, who actually studied and uses a Ketogenic diet in his practice had ever been interviewed? Maybe a perspective of going right to the source may be helpful?
@davidr1431
7 ай бұрын
Good point. Zero percent chance of it happening
@davidhopkins
7 ай бұрын
Another solid point. I am losing faith in Zoe's ability to give unbiased information.
@napua5217
7 ай бұрын
Yesplease, let the keto expert explain not a plant based propaganda supporting guy
@Caladcholg
7 ай бұрын
That would go against the business model unfortunately :(.
It has been a year since i started on the carnivore diet. In the first month I healed my eczema, candida, brain fog, digestive issues, pollen alergies, sleep apnea and arthritis in my right hand. As a bonus, i lost 15 kg (i have now a BMI of 20, a perfect score apparently ;-) Dont be afraid to try it if you're having similar issues. Do it at least for 30 days and you'll understand what i'm talking about! Cheers
@hugomarquez3189
7 ай бұрын
My BMI is also 20 on a vegan diet for 3 years, no prescriptions needed, and I’m 40. I also don’t have cholesterol or blood pressure issues. I suggest you check those numbers.
@pedrocorreia2306
7 ай бұрын
If it works for you, keep doing it@@hugomarquez3189
@starmanjesus5679
7 ай бұрын
who cares about you sorry, science is not based on personal opinions or experiences especially for a year diet
@stevelanghorn1407
7 ай бұрын
Such a “Jesus”-like comment…(not)@@starmanjesus5679
@emmabannister210
7 ай бұрын
As Nina Teicholz writes in Unsettled Science , Prof Gardner is Director of the Stanford Plant -Based Diet Initiative PBDI launched in 2021 with a 5 year grant from meat replacement company Beyond Meat. This diet series from Zoe is like the soft drink companies and cereal companies giving away exercise vouchers. I unsubscribed.
@DomDeDom
7 ай бұрын
Extreme is any amount of carbs. It's not an essential nutrient. Anything other than Keto or Carnivore is extreme. Gardner has conflicts. Should have explained this at the start. Dr. Westman finally lost it with this guy. LDL statements are 40 years out of date.
@lorraineh3889
5 ай бұрын
I lose weight in ketosis on very low calorie diets (VLCD’s) based on shakes 600 calories a day, it’s not a high fat diet on that amount of calories. If I do it for 3 months I lose 3 stone. I feel amazing in ketosis, I feel the inflammation leave my body and sleep really well, my skin looks clear and I have no aches and pains. I think this particular podcast is sharing dangerous inaccurate information which is disappointing.
@KetoCookbooksCorner
5 ай бұрын
*This informative piece provides valuable insights into the science behind the keto diet, helping viewers understand its mechanisms and potential benefits for weight loss and overall health.*
@ssa8479
7 ай бұрын
My breakfast includes 4 eggs, a bit of meat, salt, pepper, tablespoon of olive oil, half a teaspoon of pickled ginger or garlic, a few olives, and half an avocado. Two cups of coffee with couple tablespoons of half and half. Lunch can be liver, chicken, fish, beef or lamb, with two cups of dark green salad, couple of cherry tomatoes, a stalk or two of asparagus, a bit of green (string) beans, with a couple tablespoons of ranch or blue cheese dressing. Plus a cup of coffee. No dinner, don’t feel the need. My glucose level today was 82, my HbA1C couple of weeks ago was 5.2. Cholesterol numbers are okay: total 220, HDL 60, LDL 159, triglycerides
@delwoodkelp8590
7 ай бұрын
LDL of 159... I guess your experts have some good history and longer term studies showing you'll do just fine over 20 years. You might link us to those studies proving their theory to be valid. I'd be curious.
@videoartsproductions1
7 ай бұрын
At least your not eating processed junk. Good for you!
@ssa8479
7 ай бұрын
@@delwoodkelp8590 or if you prefer a KZitem version: kzitem.info/news/bejne/upd7052Ln35op6gsi=TV6igWcD3QVJnykj
@skilla2542
7 ай бұрын
Well I'm 5ft 6ins and weigh 118lbs, my HbA1C is the same as yours at 33. And I eat about 50% carbs!!
@ssa8479
7 ай бұрын
@@skilla2542 I'm 65 and a man 😀, so we're both doing good. Fitness and physical activity matter too; I do two sets of 70 pushups and 70 squats, walk 10,000 to 15,000 steps, clock up 100+ "Zone" minutes a day according to my FitBit app. My wife is 57, 5'3" and 107 lb, and she eats more carbs than I do.
@crippsuniverse
7 ай бұрын
This comes across as unbelievably biased. I eat low carb, keep my fat and protein to average levels and eat a ton of vegetables. I lost 3 stone in 3 months, feel great and have kept it up for 6 months.
@here4thebeer
7 ай бұрын
At one point I was around 370lbs, i started a weight loss journey and utilized d a low carb diet and had a lot of success getting down to about 215lbs. However, like in this video I found my total and LDL cholesterol were very high. So I started learning more about diet and started working on a more clean/plant based diet. I'm now 6'ft 245lbs 47 year old man. I don't have very good results from the perspective of weight loss eating this way. I'm one of those people you probably wouldn't look at and think obese but would be diagnosed that way. I wen't from guzzling diets sodas to giving up all added sugars and sweetener alternatives. I drink green/black tea with nothing added except sliced lemon. I've just finished reading Eat To Beat Your Diet (This and Zoe guide my diet). I consume Kefir, Kimchi and eat almost nothing that has been processed. I eat lots of tofu and tempeh. I work do a 15 minute weight lifting routine 3 times per week and walk for an hour 7 days a week. I feel positive this is the most healthy way I've ever eaten.. but I feel I'm just doomed to a life of being overweight.
@mintee8638
7 ай бұрын
A few sources I found interesting on Keto and LDL is search "low carb down under ldl". I would be interested to see a conversation between these two groups.
@rhshrimpton
7 ай бұрын
High total cholesterol and LDL are NOT in themselves accurate indicators of cardiovascular risk. High triglycerides, however, IS a serious risk factor, and keto/carnivore LOWERS triglycerides, unlike higher carb diets. Don't be afraid and maybe dig a little deeper into the research. Wishing you good health!
@juliebrown8375
7 ай бұрын
Can you reduce your portion sizes a little bit?
@DarthQueefious
7 ай бұрын
Maybe look into fasting? Check how many calories you're having. Even on keto or a healthy low carb diet you'll struggle to lose weight if you're consuming maintenance+ amounts
@Kontrabass66
7 ай бұрын
High LDL is a marker for longevity, do not fall into the trap!
@LMary125
7 ай бұрын
Love the way I'm eating and feeling with the help of ZOE's podcasts! I've tried KETO (my TC jumped to 284 with LDL 166), I tried vegan and even carnivore for a short while. I am now eating high FODMAP, lots of vegetables, lots of fresh fruits, nuts, and whole grains; meat only a couple of times a week. Thank you, ZOE!! After listening to ZOE podcast on Butter, I have found I don't need a tablespoon of butter in my coffee. You have the best podcasts, ZOE!
@hektor6766
3 ай бұрын
I'm keto, and have never buttered my coffee. I'm 65, work a physically demanding job, lift weights and jog to the local high school track to run sprints three time a week. Needless to say, I feel fine without ZOE.
@ShoppingEmail-dr1fs
Ай бұрын
why would you eat high FODMAP, they are undigestible sugars?
@FurtiveFool
6 ай бұрын
This interview doesn't take into account there are different levels of keto. If you have bad epilepsy it has to be pretty extreme with super high levels of blood ketones, if you are doing it for health then you can go for the lower levels of blood ketones. Disappointing really.
@RobertWinter2
7 ай бұрын
So you get opinions on the Keto diet from someone who's been mostly Vegan for the last 40 years. Of course he's not going to have a favorable view. Talk to people like Dr. Chris Palmer and others using therapeutic nutritional ketosis to treat serious mental disorders. Keto is also being used by people with other chronic medical conditions where drug therapy is lacking. In my own experience, it's not a hard lifestyle to follow especially when my problems come back whenever I stray.
@stevelanghorn1407
7 ай бұрын
Well said!👍
@mintee8638
7 ай бұрын
Another place I found interesting is search, "low carb down under LDL".
@gillsimpson4976
7 ай бұрын
Its been reported that Dr Garner receives funding from 'Beyond Meat'. If this is true he should be openly declaring this to Zoe viewers .
@skilla2542
7 ай бұрын
This is so true. My uncle is a heart surgeon and he said he spent a large amount of time doing bypass surgeries due to consumption of saturates.
@stevelanghorn1407
7 ай бұрын
With all due respect to your Uncle (and the many lives he must have extended) I think it’s becoming ever-clearer that Saturated Fat is not the Demon it was once considered to be. CVD is a very complex process and the latest science is shifting focus away from Saturated Fat (including unprocessed red meat fat) as the culprit and discovering the harms done by a highly processed carbohydrate-rich diet (sugar and sugar-like foods etc.) Also, back in the day when your Uncle’s patients were consuming saturated fats, those who were eating fatty red meats etc also tended to be the types who generally pooh-poohed “healthy eating” advice, neglected their bodies, ate whatever they fancied & also smoked and boozed.
@barbaraholladay8277
7 ай бұрын
@@stevelanghorn1407thank you! True
@eddjcaine
7 ай бұрын
@@stevelanghorn1407actually the balance of evidence is still against saturated fats, at least for CV health. They can be part of the diet, but it’s generally thought best to moderate them, and use unsaturated instead…
@stevelanghorn1407
7 ай бұрын
Many thanks for your comment. Unfortunately, I think 2 polarised agenda have confused this complex issue. ie the “meat” lobby and “plant-based”. One lot wanting to reassure their followers. The other lot (this one for example) wanting to point out the “dangers”! Who is going to be proven right in the long-run? Neither probably. It will be a case of “just eat as little processed garbage as possible”!@@eddjcaine
@eddjcaine
7 ай бұрын
@@stevelanghorn1407 I’m not a plant based advocate (but very flattering for you to think so) - I eat red meat, fish, cheese and plenty of veggies, but I try to moderate saturated fat because I’ve looked at the evidence and I have more confidence in the idea that saturated fat is partly to blame for CVD. It’s comforting to think that it’s one side or another but it really isn’t - everyone just wants to be healthy and most people here want to be slim. Defo no ultra processed food - that’s pretty much the main thing everyone agrees on…
@bettykramos1802
7 ай бұрын
He’s just so so wrong about keto…I’m no longer following this channel…sad..
@davidr1431
6 ай бұрын
What is sad is they would not expect you to purchase the Zoe product so would also not blink an eye at losing you as a subscriber. This channel is a marketing channel, whatever they say. They would be happier with only subscribers who applaud them. The one thing youtube offers is the ability to comment and put an opposing view so maybe some people will be helped avoid falling for the snake oil.
@vhs10907
7 ай бұрын
In spite of the comments about a true keto diet being almost impossible, people who lose weight on keto will not be deterred just because they are told that it is not keto. Their goal is weight loss. I am also unsure of the argument that going on a keto diet, then eating a whole carbohydrate, say a banana, which makes the person's blood sugar spike will deter anyone. The person might argue that one should never eat a whole carbohydrate and diabetes will be avoided by staying on keto. Dr. Gardner's comments that people in the study could not sustain a keto diet does make a good point that most will eventually stop the keto diet, and the problems will surface.
@davidcottrell1308
7 ай бұрын
low carb is the way to go. works for me.
@Leo-vd6in
7 ай бұрын
we have so much misinformation in this reality. It is very difficult to determine which path is optimal. Unfortunately, scientists can't help much. at my current level, the main answer is keto. but it's actually more complicated than just keto. you need to continue educating yourself to understand....
@anitahernandez1207
7 ай бұрын
This particular doctor is not a fan of keto, I have heard him speak about it before. I think a major problem he sees is that fad diets become commercialized and politicized, because a lot of people in the world make a living off the subject and making of food products. Keto was originally very different than the commercialized keto today and I am sure that those poor epileptic children that benefited from freedom of refined and GMO grains would agree. So, non-epileptic individuals react differently to highly processed foods, even highly processed "keto" foods and they may not go into visible convulsions but their nervous system and brain can. Leafy greens and vegetables are carbohydrates. If a person eats 5 cups of salad a day and a half cup of berries, they can still go into ketosis with consuming healthy meats and fats or even an olive oil or avocado oil based dressing. Animals also eat plants and if they are consuming GMO grains or seeds and seed oils, that effects the quality of the meat and therefore the health of the person eating the meat. Same for vegetables that are not organic or that are grown hydroponically. As far as fruit, many have been bred to be sweeter than the original species. So, is the person the problem or the crazy scientist wanting to be a farmer, that decided to make an extra dollar in the lab with a sweeter fruit genome? The original corn that Native Americans ate was 3 to 4 times less sweeter than commercial corn found in the supermarket today. Let's see what this doctor has to say about this without promoting a veggie fad diet that can have equally destructive effects as a commercialized highly processed keto diet.
@bigjay1970
7 ай бұрын
So true
@stevelanghorn1407
7 ай бұрын
Yes to all of that!
@Ginger11111
7 ай бұрын
I’ve been keto for a few years due to an autoimmune I needed to control. I do fluctuate between low keto sis and deep ketosis. I have a blood panel with my physical every year and my numbers are great. Sugar, cholesterol, all good, blood pressure consistently good. I think it’s like anything, be mindful not to go to extremes. Eat your veggies choose healthy proteins and fats.
@bahramabdolkarimi
5 ай бұрын
After the original founder of keto diet died( dr Atkin) the biopsy revealed that he was suffering from severe clogged arteries and late stage heart and renal failure.
@OceanChild7
7 ай бұрын
I've unintentionally lost 13 kg in late 2020 when I had a very hectic work schedule and could afford only 2 meals per day and funnily enough those foods I've eaten fell into keto categorie (including the non-starchy veggies), so I'm pretty sure I was in ketosis some time then, butI wouldn't know it because I started analyzing my diet 2 months in, when all my clothes suddenly became too big for me. I tried to keep keto diet in aware way then and I couln't keep up with it so it must be some glitch in the system for me then)) I've been struggling to lose weight half of my adult life and I'm so happy that this accidental ketosis + IF happened to me. I still think the real reason is IF, not a keto food groups but I don't eat sugar and grains to this day, it's very easy for me, and I managed to keep my weight for 3 years now with no sacrifice. So, although I do not approve of the exremes of Keto, I think there is definitely something there in eating a lot of "clean" keto approved food matched with a meal schedule suitable personally for you.
@lorrainejambor3258
7 ай бұрын
Christopher Gardner is always interesting to listen to, looking forward to the rest of this series.
@JW4REnvironment
7 ай бұрын
He is a great communicator of the basic diet principles! Professor Gardner is doing a great public service to bring us all science-based nutritional insights. I really appreciate that he educates us that the real problem is if we have too much saturated fat or if we have too much refined/highly processed carbohydrate! How great to have a top researcher like Christopher Gardner who can explain what matters to us lay people in a clear and upbeat manner.
@ralphkassing6821
7 ай бұрын
You guys are really not qualified to talk about keto at all. You’re biased toward plant based diets. Keto flu is not an issue. There is a wide range of keto. 100 grams of carbs to 0. Once you go 0 carbs you find the true beauty of keto. Called the carnivore diet by most. Once you arrive there you get the most amazing results. Weight control, low A1C, normal blood glucose, max energy and all inflammation gets better and for most disappearing completely. Off all meds and BP normal. For a lot of folks, carbs are poison unfortunately.
@robblankenstein6825
7 ай бұрын
Is this the highly biased vegan guy? Wants to look at some of Professor Bikman's stuff.
@robin-jewsbury
5 ай бұрын
Really bad un-balanced view of Keto. I'm fine hearing Christopher's view BUT you should present the alternative view too because a keto person would have a counter argument to each of his points. Most of his points are about the the beginning of Keto being too difficult and uncomfortable - so why not transition slower - there was nothing much about the benefits of keto (apart from the epilepsy story which was presented as something old fashioned) Really you should be ashamed of yourselves for producing this non-comparison pretending to be a comparison video.
@blackpalacemusic
3 ай бұрын
Ketosis is not the optimal human state. Most research shows that low carb diets are detrimental to human health.
@sarab9186
7 ай бұрын
So glad everyone can see how biased this is! But I'm glad he mentioned the fact that refined grains and sugar aren't great...
@ssa8479
7 ай бұрын
Zoe seems to have a bias in favor of vegan and Mediterranean diets/food. Waiting to see if they ever interview people like Duke University professor Dr. Eric Westman (Keto Made Simple), or cardiologists Bret Scher or Nadir Ali, both of whom are proponents of the keto/ low high(er) fat diet or lifestyle. Come on, Zoe, stick up for science instead of trying to slant it.
@starmanjesus5679
7 ай бұрын
they’re not real scientists they just sell keto bullshit
@stevelanghorn1407
7 ай бұрын
Me too!👍
@nicopadilla8082
7 ай бұрын
We need to respect the right of Zoe to advance a vegan and plant based agenda. It’s Jonathan Wolf’s channel and he can put whatever he wants on it. If someone doesn’t believe in vegan and plant based eating, that person can just watch some other KZitem channel (many of the comments here can give leads on what to watch).
@ssa8479
7 ай бұрын
@@nicopadilla8082 of course he has the right to put whatever he wants on his channel (and if he claims it’s based on science, expect it to be questioned). And since it’s an open public channel, viewers can state whatever their opinion is. Need to respect that right too. It’s probably good for his channel to get diverse opinions, some arguments … helps to drive up participation, and may help with the ad money.
@m-hadji
7 ай бұрын
I thought body make Glucose if you don’t eat it like while you sleeping. Gluconeogenesis refers to synthesis of new glucose from noncarbohydrate precursors, obviously I am wrong according doctor Gardener.
@EverlynArchibald
3 ай бұрын
I don't know tho' What you say sounds reasonable to me, but I tried CD diet for a year and my fasting insulin down from 34 to 1.2 a1c from 9.7 to 4.8 my blood pressure is down to 90/60 from 160/100 my pcos and Psoriasis are also gone too. I have lost 57KG/ 125.6lb..half of my weight with 1 hour workout a week(20 mins *3) . All this year, I only have carb from eggs and beef liver . I have beef (1.5 lb/ DAY 4TIMES/WEEK) OR lamb (1.5 LB/D 3 TIMES /WEEK) pork(3 times a week for B1) chicken beef liver (300G/week) salmon (200g/3times/week) duck eggs(5) butter 150g/day I feel really amazing. My brain is clear and work better. I was going to do it for 3 months but I think I will keep going for now.
@MercedPDF
7 ай бұрын
I lost weight doing sort -of keto, a bit more extreme in the beginning when I used to eat butter with a fork and knife, but afterwards it was just like low carbs, almost no fruits except berries, a lot of vegetables, tried to avoid legumes but every once in a while I had hummus, I had a flat white with actual milk. Dropped from about 118kg to 80 in around one year. One thing that also was key was mixing it with some intermittent fasting. Now I'm about 85kg, sometimes I get a bit over, but it's been about 2 years since I'm here. Can't say that the extreme by the book version would entice me. As for LDL, went about 10 points up, but the HDL went much more and to be honest the total number is still ok, I'm not about to get scared of that. All my other blood work was much improved after this, blood glucose, liver function, etc.
@robbanks1436
7 ай бұрын
Do we think that Gardner really is this misinformed or is he encouraged to be biased? Probably a combination.
@Meathead-10810
7 ай бұрын
I think he is very biased and it seems to be getting worse with age.
@robbanks1436
7 ай бұрын
@@Meathead-10810 he is also funded to not try to find the truth
@birdboxlive5191
7 ай бұрын
Bad info bad attitude toward what people can achieve on a Ketogenic Diet my wife and improved our health and hit Ketones goals bad advice from Zoe.
@Maniak76
7 ай бұрын
Keto is the best way forwards for metabolic health. Dont listen to zoe !!
@dundee1080
16 күн бұрын
Someone popped your bubble, buddy?
@wardhamrin3979
6 ай бұрын
We have only eat carbs for such a short period of time in our history lol!!
@Caladcholg
7 ай бұрын
I just have to add, Jonathan looks Hella nervous this whole time haha. The lighting is awkward... you could tell they were not looking forward to this, which is why I think they trotted out someone a blind to change a Gardner. I would love a smartphone filmed 'behind the scenes' look at the zoe studios to see the conversations they had about how they were going to try to do a keto hit job 😅. Because let's face it, at this point, that's all they are doing (even though it seems some employees want to break the mold!)
@davidr1431
7 ай бұрын
Great comment. I bet you are right.
@Meathead-10810
7 ай бұрын
You should not mix carbs and fat, that is the problem with processed foods. It activates the randle cycle.
@jnate5887
7 ай бұрын
Great channel, your work has helped me navigate the rabbit hole of weight loss and building muscle, basically a lifestyle change. Height 5 10 max out at 280lb, after 18 months at 220. Working towards the goal of 190 hopefully in the next 12months.
@seaviewpenangoverseas4603
7 ай бұрын
Step one is look at hormones then look at a complementary diet and lifestyle.
@stevelanghorn1407
7 ай бұрын
Here we go again! LDL cholesterol is the cause of CVD. Really? Are you not keeping up to date on all the latest research findings starting to unravel the real culprits?
@malkum61
7 ай бұрын
You cannot have 10 x less! You can have 1/10th, it's a terrible description.
@drewetpa
7 ай бұрын
The twins study programme on Netlfix put me off Christopher Gardner. It was basically an advert for veganism. Totally lacking in scientific rigour. All the twins were specially selected for TV. They were all rather "telegenic" No mention whatsover of the requirement to supplement to make up for the nutrient deficiencies of a vegan diet.
@DarthQueefious
7 ай бұрын
After a few weeks of keto (eating lots of ham, bacon, sausages etc) my heart didn't feel right so moved to a more Mediterranean Keto (swapping all that meat for fatty fish) and feel much better. Lost probably around 18 lbs in 6 weeks A usual day is: Breakfast: 120g greek yoghurt + 3tsp chia + 2tsp mixed seeds + 3 tsp ground flax + 2tsp oats + berries eg. 20 blueberries + 5 blackberries (sometimes 20g pommegranite/ 30g kiwi). It's really nice. Much prefer it to my old cereal days Lunch: 80-120g Mackerel + cucumber + prawns + 2tsp coleslaw along with a tub of 5 cut cherry tomatoes + 2tsp butter + 1-2tps turmeric & black pepper = microwaved then 3 slices of cheddar cheese melted on top. A weird baseless pizza, if you will. Sometimes I have 2-3 boiled eggs instead of Mackerel and stick the prawns in the fake pizza Dinner: 100g salmon + salad drenched in a mix of olive oil, vinegar, garlic + mix of vegetables, esp. veg like kale + sometimes chicken. The odd sausage now and then I have one or two cups of tea per day each with 1 tablespoon of semi-skimmed milk. Water and Coke zero the rest of the time. Done it long enough now that I don't need to count, log or even weigh foods. Also take a NowFoods "Daily Vits" every other day with a vit D + Iron supplement the other day. It's easy to stick to. Main problem is getting enough calories tbh. I set my goal at 1800 cals per day but generally end up around 1300-1400. If I feel hungry after dinner which I think will stop me getting to sleep, I'll usually have some mussels or seafood, just enough so I feel good to sleep. Now and then I''l do a 20-24hr fast just to keep my body on its toes. Only done 3 of them so far
@wendymendoza1815
7 ай бұрын
Thank you so much for this information
@1marinable
7 ай бұрын
On a first look I do not see you are having aproximatelly 75% calories from fat as you should to stay in ketosis ? Is this just LCHF diet or you actually achieve ketosis
@DarthQueefious
7 ай бұрын
@@1marinable Looking at my carb manager over the weeks, it's usually
@robblankenstein6825
7 ай бұрын
Yep, this is the guy that disappointed poor Dr Westman with his latest Netflix propaganda.
@jmorales8
7 ай бұрын
Just incorporated the Rysefureke method into my keto routine, and WOW! The energy boost is unreal, and I'm torching fat like it's nobody's business. Feeling fantastic!
@tabletop9258
7 ай бұрын
I'm surprised Zoe would have this professor on again? He seems to just be regurgitating outdated info about the keto diet. I can only speak from my own experience with keto over last couple years where I lost close to 40 pounds, Never had keto flu, Never have felt better Mentally an energetically and my bio markers are top notch. You do not need as much fat or as little carb as they have said in the past to still get the benefits. And by the way Your brain loves fat as a energy source, And it actually makes all the glucose it needs and no more when it's not constantly force fed it all day. I also have to ask how many of the subjects in his experiment were actually fat adapted? That would make a huge difference, and is actually not talked about here....🤷
@davidr1431
7 ай бұрын
He is involved with Zoe, that’s why.
@starmanjesus5679
7 ай бұрын
again personal experiences based on an ideology are not science are just ideology
@tabletop9258
7 ай бұрын
@@starmanjesus5679 Yep, and I'll take personal experience all day every day.....
@starmanjesus5679
7 ай бұрын
@@tabletop9258 to do a real keto diet you need a real doctor following you, the do it yourself diet and opinions add nothing meaningful to this subject
@davidhopkins
7 ай бұрын
True....but many of us have a personal experience at odds with this guy's claims. And there is plenty of competing science. Bottom line, this video is not a fair representation of the full picture. I'm disappointed.@@starmanjesus5679
@ferencbodnar2969
7 ай бұрын
Thanks to the Rysefureke method, my keto lifestyle is thriving. Beyond weight loss, I'm experiencing a remarkable surge of vitality. Results are absolutely amazing!
@terenceclark6858
7 ай бұрын
I am 69 years old now when i was a child, a well balanced diet was 60% carbs...30% Protein...10% fats. Processed food was in its infancy and i believe those proportions were about right.
@edgrimshaw379
7 ай бұрын
There is never any data presented on these casts just opinions and waffle without solid information
@janeabbotts
6 ай бұрын
Not for me. I need to get my fibre really low, so a meat based diet is it for me. And.....from what I have seen lately cholesterol is not the boogie man it was previously thought....old 'science'.
@ferencbodnar2969
7 ай бұрын
Transforming my keto journey with the Rysefureke method has been phenomenal. It's not just about shedding weight; I'm gaining an unmatched vitality. Loving the outstanding results!
@mhenderson908
7 ай бұрын
another biased view
@jovale7521
7 ай бұрын
Very anti keto. And ldl not bad for everyone. Carry on with whole grains if you want arthritis.
@donaldanderson6578
7 ай бұрын
LOL
@quickcinemarecap
7 ай бұрын
00:02 The ketogenic diet consists of 70-75% fat, a significant increase from the traditional 30-35%. 01:35 The ketogenic diet has been around for 100 years as a treatment for epilepsy. 03:17 Ketogenic diet shifts body from burning carbs to burning fat. 04:50 The body prefers carbs over fat for energy 06:15 Shifting to a keto diet can affect hormone profile and may cause keto flu. 07:50 The keto diet is very high fat. 09:20 Many people struggled to maintain a low-carb ketogenic diet. 10:48 Cutting back on added sugar and refined grains is crucial for a healthy diet.
@AI-vs7sm
7 ай бұрын
The main problem here is that you are asking subjects, who are not motivated to follow the keto diet, to whole heartedly embrace it! That's because Gardner and your channel are plant based biased, and don't want an objective study! You just want to stand up and say ,oh, keto bad plants good! Thousands of people follow keto ,or low carb, or carnivore and have success, because they are committed to doing it! Beside , low carb is not high protein, and Gardner knows that ,he has said in other videos that protein in any diet tends to hover around 20%! He and this site are so biased that it is laughable!! Beyond meat funding is icing on the cake! Almond flour , of coutse!
@davidrutter6886
7 ай бұрын
Poor; several misleading statements; not up to the usual standard. For example the commentary on what your body and brain prefer was misleading; at rest most people will burn fat, not glucose. Glucose is reserved for exertion and for parts of the brain. On LDL, if you are consuming more fats, increases in HDL and potentially LDL wouldn't be unexpected; no mention ratios, decreased triglycerides etc. and no reference to the latest science on this.
@deborahcambria3005
5 ай бұрын
Totally biased against meat. Cardiologists are worried is the result of study? Science??????
@costillero2189
7 ай бұрын
Where do people get these ideas that you need to eat so much meat? These results make me suspect that it is not that most people can't sustain a keto diet, but that most people don't know how to cook diversely enough.
@ProvocativeSloth
7 ай бұрын
True. In order to sustain a keto diet, you need to really enjoy cooking, be open to trying new foods and be willing to spend time ever day prepping meals from scratch.
@LeeBoris974
7 ай бұрын
@@ProvocativeSloth That goes for any diet.
@user-qe6bl1lb7u
4 ай бұрын
Love your show and style. I almost never find errors but I think Christopher was to form in his dismissal of low carb high fat diets due to increases in lipids. A 2008 study published in The New England Journal of Medicine showed that a low-carb carbohydrate diet like Atkins had a more favorable effect on blood lipid levels than both the Mediterranean diet or a low-fat diet. This is definitely food for thought if this week’s study shows that the Mediterranean diet is better for preventing heart disease than the low-fat diet, it is quite likely that the Atkins diet is even more effective. Atkins measures up well or surpasses the other diets in additional studies as well-one in 2010 that shows that low-fat, Mediterranean and low-carb diets lower heart disease risk by lowering blood pressure and one more recently in 2013 that show that low-carb diets are just as effective as low-glycemic-index, Mediterranean diets on lipids. I was shocked when I saw these studies in the 2008 NEJM paper 5:43 in particular
@HobzyMcRuse
5 ай бұрын
so much dribble and nonsense here from Gardner. Keto meals are very easy: avocado with egg, salmon, fetta cheese and salad drizzled in olive oil. Or how about macadamias, walnuts and pecans with blueberries, raspberries and full fat greek yoghurt. The variables are endless. Gardner just has a high carb, plant-based agenda, not based on any real science.
@ShazWag
7 ай бұрын
Makes sense. Extremes of anything aren't good. It's all about finding the right balance for you.
@healthquest365
7 ай бұрын
Excited to dive into the world of diets with this special episode! 🍽
@JuanDiegoGruk
7 ай бұрын
The Rysefureke method is the secret behind my upgraded keto lifestyle. It's not just about losing weight; I'm embracing a new level of vitality. Results are truly impressive!
@myopenmind527
7 ай бұрын
Very disappointing and misleading Zoe Podcast. So much bias on show here. I lost 36lb on this diet in the first four months of 2023. Never felt so healthy in my life. My cholesterol improved. My ALT returned to well within the normal range . My fatty liver resolved. You really need to have Eric Westman on your podcast. He’s been using this diet for the past two decades. There’s no mention of leafy green and other veg on this diet. My advice is do your own research. Zoe is defiantly anti keto and for very poor reasons.
@MichaelToub
5 ай бұрын
Great Video!
@je6374
4 ай бұрын
There is mention of gluconeogenesis. But aren't insulin spikes due to gluconeogenesis 'demand-driven', which is much different from the 'supply-driven' gluconeogenesis you get by eating processed carbs? It's also a shame they don't mention how many grams of protein you 'need' on a daily basis, and what they define as 'need', because there is obviously a difference between the amount of protein you should consume to simply not waste away vs. to thrive and be/feel healthy.
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