Kronos might be discontinued but is still king compared with the Nautilus
@dessiplaer
Жыл бұрын
I would love to have had a Kronos. It was dissapointing to me when they excluded Karma on the Nautilus. Thanks for the video.
@dhpstudios2009
9 ай бұрын
I totally agree
@NightOrchids
3 ай бұрын
I was Surprised about no Karma as well.. im sure i read somewhere that Stephen Kay went across to Yamaha.. but correct me id im wrong
@mikaela543
Жыл бұрын
Not loving the Nautilus but I have a Kronos that rocks, after 3 years playing it I am still learning, this thing seems to have no limits.
@FranciscoDiazMusic
Жыл бұрын
I just bought a nautilus in the beginning of this year 2023. I own 3 Kronos keyboards. I can honestly say that the nautilus is a simplified Kronos. It does have Same sound engine. I have compared it side by side and there is no difference in sound. The cutback is in the built of the body: Smaller screen, Less knobs, Simpler look… not as classy as the Kronos with the wooden panels, abundant knobs and controls, and huge touchscreen. Kronos was just built like a tank! Nautilus is a great keyboard for the price. I wish I had waited to get the AT version. I got the original version… But I agree with you Woody. This cannot be the new Flagship workstation for Korg. Why? Because it’s not bringing anything new to the table or to the competition. I see it more as a transition keyboard in the meantime while they get a true flagship out. the Kronos was out for over a decade. technically speaking, it’s still alive within the nautilus. Just with a simpler body. I hope Korg releases something More powerful soon. I’ve been a korg player from the very beginning. I’m not loosing hope yet.
@dirkkeersmaekers4343
11 ай бұрын
I expect an answer from Korg about the new Montage m
@lunde28
6 ай бұрын
I am a Kronos X player and will now be even more careful with my backups. Would def. miss the controls (faders, ribbon, even keypad etc.) I use them on every gig. Do you know if the Nautilus (if things should go wrong) can read Kronos setlists, ksc, ksf etc. files?
@dimitriboris5974
3 ай бұрын
Wow
@jerryKJose
Жыл бұрын
How on earth can Nautilus or any crappy boards like Nautilus be the flagship without Karma. That is too absurd even to think. Most Korg players Donno about Karma and it’s possibilities. Karma makes Korg unique and stand out from other brands
@Nightowl427272
Жыл бұрын
Aftertouch hasn't been a marketable feature since the 1990s, IOW, it's not some wiz-bang feature that you put in the name. It's a meat-&-potatoes standard feature that, if left out (especially in a flagship board), should be a mark of shame on the face of the manufacturer. Smh...
@jasonfrey5888
Жыл бұрын
I think this is a trend of all all keyboard companies taking sliders off making cheaper parts just to save money I want the real deal let's hope the new Montage 2 isn't going to be like this
@kptamc
Жыл бұрын
The Wavestation engine is also missing on the Nautilus.
@taggartjs
Жыл бұрын
Love your videos, Woody! I came very late to the Kronos/Nautilus party. I bought a Kronos 73 about two years ago when I joined a friend’s prog rock band and it was (is) awesome. EXCEPT I nearly had an aneurism every time I would transport it to a gig. I’m no spring chicken and it just about did me in. So, having more money than sense, I bought a Nautilus 61. Perfect! Now my Kronos is a “studio queen” and the Nautilus goes with me to help me pretend to be my hero, Geoff Downes! 😂 And I couldn’t be happier (and aneurysm free!)
@WoodyPianoShack
Жыл бұрын
killer combo, congrats, best of both worlds!
@trueztruth
Жыл бұрын
Guess I’ll be hanging onto my Kronos for quite awhile longer!
@MrFn65
Жыл бұрын
I am pretty sure they will release a Kronos 2 replacement hopefully at the NAMM show next year. It is interesting how the big 3 ( Yamaha, Korg, Roland ) take turns with their flagship units release times and different feature designs. The Kronos was way ahead of its time but remember that was due to their incredible Oasys before it! In Canada where I’m located, I have many people who bought Nautilus but went back to Kronos.
@synth.s
Жыл бұрын
They had 2 years to come up with a replacement For kromos, the truth is, the era of the workstations is over. That's why Korg is not going to spend that kind of money to develop any other type of workstation. Instead, they introduced the PA5X as a very enhanced arranger since they already knew that everybody is using some sort of DAW integration with synthesizer for music production these days.
@xp50player
Жыл бұрын
Kronos came out 6 years after OASYS. It’s been 12 years since Kronos came out. Forget it, not happening.
@Mtaalas
Жыл бұрын
@@synth.s Workstations are NOT done. I can't get a DAMN done with all the billion euro orchestral libraries and almost every other library for bass, guitar, etc that exists out there... because they are not designed for workstation use. The user interface isn't there, you need to waddle around with a mouse and program some third party controller or something to work with the parameters each single library presents. Orchestral libraries are basically all for film composers to replace real orchestra or engravers who want to hear what they've painstakingly written down and you need to tweak the each small minutia for example of your second violinis performance using hundred CC's to get something decent and usable that gets the point across. Workstations are not about the hardware, they are about the libraries full of decades of experience of these companies painstakingly creating sounds and user interfaces and assigning parameters that make you work FAST. The sounds are not t here to replace real instruments, they're there to get you what you hear in your head FAST and EASY. I've never used one single PC-based library (that wasn't itself a recreation of existing workstation like Korg M1) that's easy and quick to use and integrates into my workflow seamlessly. I'm a PLAYER. I don't want to program CC's... I'm a composer, an arranger... I want results when my creativity is flowing. I can always record real instruments later when i'm done... but I need to get the point across and not lose my focus when i'm creating something. PC based solutions cannot give that to me. They all require you to stop and program the notes painstakingly. Hardware workstations give you exactly that. They know what hardware you have, they know you're a player.. they put so much effort into immediacy and providing what composers and song writers need right at their fingertips. We still need hardware workstations.
@synth.s
Жыл бұрын
@Mtaalas Complete agree with you on this. What I meant is that we don't see workstations like kronos anymore, it's going to be a streamlined version like nautilus, or it's going to be fantom and montage, these are here to stay for another decade at least till one of this companies come up with a hybrid between a mighty synthesizer and a mighty arranger.
@mrdali67
Жыл бұрын
@@Mtaalas That's so true speaking. Even software Libraries clearly beat every thing of any hardware workstation, it is just not made for and will never be able to beat a good thaught out workstation for the gigging musicians. Most players don't have either the time or skill to learn all the key switches and programming that would require you to set up a comprehensive orchestral library to be usable in a live situation. If you can just sample sounds for easy use live and maybe use some of the onboard synth engines it's all we need. It's just a matter if Korg is willing to convert the current Kronos engines into a format that is easier to support on newer hardware. If you truely know the Kronos it's powerfull enough to recreate any sounds you might need as it is now. All we need really is a no limit on ammount of sound banks you have available, and enough ram for loading more samples without having to reload during a gig. And a better UI than the current one + a well thaught out software solution to support the onboard ui for easy sampling and converting directly to the instrument, which is where Korg failed with the Kronos / Oasys. compared to where some of the competitors are today with a much more modern and userfriendly approach. Even it do cost some R&D it's absolutely not an unimaginable thing when you see what both Yamaha and Korg delivers today in their Arranger boards that is more expensive than the Kronos 88 ever was and has a much easier approach to the common user and sports an onboard Vocal Processor. Just by changing the internals of the Nautilus/Kronos to a modern SoC solution a lot of the problems some users have had with stability would be gone and if they recoded the existing engines to VST format they could theoretically support any of their software products directly in a top board and still be selling Opsix, wavestate etc to those custommers that either just want a couple softsynths or dont have the 5-6 grand for a top board that have it all. A Pro gigging musician won think twice for handing over 6k if the thing works. Hell some of the top Analog "reissue" synths cost much more than this and they have nuch more narrow use ranget and yhey still sell.
@amitaipalmon428
Жыл бұрын
I will not buy a Nautilus because of the cheap user interface: the cramped, slow, dense screen, the missing sliders and knobs, etc. This is a striped down version of the Kronos. Why should I buy second best? (although they made the instrument a bit more friendlier than the Kronos)
@timw594
Жыл бұрын
I was never impressed w the sound engines from the Kronos vs the sound of my old Triton Extreme. Kronos had a hollow bland sound in my opinion... Unlike Kurzweil and Yamaha at the time .. I still love my TE
@jasonfrey5888
Жыл бұрын
I would rather have my sliders more buttons and actual wooden sides a keyboard I play isn't just something I play but a work of art and yes after touch should have been added to this keyboard from the beginning. It wouldn't have cost them any more money
@AdibGomez
Жыл бұрын
Pueden haber miles de modelos nuevos, pero como Kronos 2,no hay comparación,los peones trabajan para el rey,,o sea,KORG KRONOS......
@artie218
Жыл бұрын
I think you didn't mention the tonewheel organ, or I missed it. It seems like the Nautilus is similar to the Modx+ in that it came out after the flagship, but now the Montage and the Kronos are discontinued and neither the Nautilus nor Modx are as capable. Its clear Yamaha has an entirely new product on the horizon, I think KORG should too, or they just decided that its too crowded and would rather offer something closer to a flagship but more affordable. The problem here is Korg made it all about menu diving, so whats the target? Gigging? Studio? I don't know, but if they were leaning towards gigging they should have put drawbars at the very least. they might as well put a spot of velcro for the IPAD to rest on top for all the unused real estate.
@Mtaalas
Жыл бұрын
Nautilus is lower spec and less features all around. It's not a replacement for Kronos and we live in times when Korg probably couldn't keep the Kronos in production anymore and can't get the new one ready and/or manufactured for release... We're waiting..
@svenjonsson4275
Жыл бұрын
Maybe a super expensive successor will come only for the professional musicians maybe with a very powerful computer and capabilites to combine any VST with the engine, but that will be at a pricerange WELL above what non professionals can afford.
@charliesilverman1132
Жыл бұрын
The father of time can never die.
@WoodyPianoShack
Жыл бұрын
very clever comment indeed!
@RajJaiRaj
Жыл бұрын
Not quite. That would be “Chronos”
@jerryKJose
Жыл бұрын
If Korg discontinue Kronos and move with this crappy Nautilus, that means those at Korg has no brains, not smart enough to innovate a monster like Kronos, M3, Oasys … they are simply after low hanging fruits 😂
@chriswins
Жыл бұрын
Are they kidding us? Korg AT-------Korg DT (Dnt touch)🤣
@furiobisotti8150
Жыл бұрын
Let's see if Korg and Yamaha will be really innovative with their new flagships. I am afraid that workstations have been attacked my contemporary VSTs. I play live and turned to full software some years ago. I sold my Montage7 three months ago. I will keep my Kronos 61 beacuse I love it.
@WoodyPianoShack
Жыл бұрын
yeah, you're right, a lot of gigging musicians, including pros, running plugins on their macs with mainstage. probably a better setup for pro keyboard players actually, who have a second mac on standby and a tech to manage it all. if i was to start gigging again, i'd still prefer my electro or one of the workstations.
@AtomizedSound
Жыл бұрын
I’m not a heavy gigging musician but I never use any computer rigs with me. Just me and my Kronos 2 which has all I need to power through shows. That’s not to say one day I might not fool around with them but I prefer a more steam lined approach when playing live
@furiobisotti8150
Жыл бұрын
@@WoodyPianoShack I prefer hugely two midi controllers, a MacBookPro driving GigPerformer and a huge bunch of virtual instruments. I learnt how to make it fast. People tell me that my organ and synth sounds are great. I won't get back unless I see a workstation giving me same flexibility and same power.
@salmanmaqbool9722
10 ай бұрын
Kronos is kronos. This keyboard is just a budget machine
@arcticfoxstudios2018
Жыл бұрын
Kronos was the king of the workstations for over a decade. In that time, other manufacturers caught up and now I would consider the Fantom the king (the big brother, not the cut down version). Korg has been a disappointment in the development department for awhile, resting on their laurels for far too long.
@FugaziSB
Жыл бұрын
Fantom cannot be the King, it doesn't have AT, even if Roland says it does.
@WoodyPianoShack
Жыл бұрын
the most up to date tech is in the fantom that's for sure, in the OS, software and screen. the newly designed keybed is fabulous as well.
@danieldion8825
Жыл бұрын
AT should not be wrote on a keyboard like it is something spectacular…, and on top of that the 73 will not have it. Let’s wait for Korg to release a Kronos successor…. Roland is up there, Yamaha will release a new synth in October, so pretty sure Korg is already working on something new… Started playing keys over 30 years ago, saw a lot of flagship comes and replaced by new ones…
@bigcdub
Жыл бұрын
Have both the Kronos2 and the Fantom7, I prefer way more patches on my Kronos, with all the other problems, the sound can't be beat...
@Jason75913
Жыл бұрын
Kronos2 isn't beaten, soundwise. It's also the only one that sounds closest to being a straight up Kontakt library in hardware form. With a few VA engines thrown in and the crazy Karma accompaniment engine, and then rounded off with a sequencer beyond any other current keyboard. There still isn't anything like it. Fantom is cool, but much lower fidelity and less feature-laden up to a point, but boasts better Ableton integration. Montage also falls behind, and it originally wasn't even going to get a sequencer, but user outcry caused Yamaha to cobble together some very mediocre improvisation after release.
@connor_flanigan
Жыл бұрын
"NAUTILUS is KORG’s flagship workstation. The successor to the wildly popular KRONOS, the range now includes two new AT models." straight from the Korg USA website. this doesn't leave much speculation as to whether or not it's the new flagship workstation or if it's the successor to the kronos. I actually saw/touched one at guitar center last week. what a sad instrument compared to the kronos.
@dimitriboris5974
3 ай бұрын
well i have a korg m50 and it gives me problems and in my country everything is expensive😢
@Michbigheart
Жыл бұрын
Hi! I think that the next KORG REAL FLAGSHIP Workstation will come with " Korg Acoustic Synth Phase 5 " announced at the Superbooth 2023. Maybe it could be the NEXT GAME CHANGER like KORG M1 - T1 - 01W Pro - Trinity - Triton - OASYS and KRONOS.
@DBTL3278
10 ай бұрын
It's odd to hear that kronos is now discontinued. I remember watching the launch event video back in 2011, I believe, daydreaming about getting my hands on one. I got extremely lucky back in 2018 and was able to get a Gen 1 88 key on eBay for $1600. The only caveat was I had to replace a D key and customs hit me with a $90 fee, but it was worth it, and it will never leave me as long as I live.
@AlavonMajor
Жыл бұрын
I’m willing to bet that the next proper flagship workstation from Korg will have borrow a lot from the pa5x as far as form factor and tech..maybe some hybrid analog wizardry under the hood..but the Nautilus is for surely not flagship worthy..not by a long stretch in comparison to its competitors..they seem to be slow at development for a host of reasons I’m sure..I’ll be looking forward to the new Montage on Oct. …. my Nautilus 61 is for sale😄
@WoodyPianoShack
Жыл бұрын
good call on the shared tech platform with the new PA, makes sense. yeah, we can't wait to see yamaha lay their cards!
@Denvermorgan2000
Жыл бұрын
I can't imagine korg leaving a hole in their lineup,
@robmlisanti
Жыл бұрын
Sales
@Victooriux
Жыл бұрын
I think that we definetly use too much faders for quick values controls. So every keyboard that steps in, should get them. And about the AfterTouch thing, yes. I always talk with keyboard fellows that all (or most) of the keyboards should have it since it was created. I know that the companies are traying us to buy a new keyboard as asoon as they release a new one, but they have to start thinking about environement polution. Those capricious business techniques has to end. Let´s get more into the digital developement. Let´s build a really nice, complete and sustainable hardware and make updates and new function only with the IT developement. Awesome video Woody. Regards
@peterkadarmusic9728
Жыл бұрын
The Kronos has a proper control surface. The Nautilus by comparison feels like an appliance. The 73 should be E-E so that the player is centered at the instrument and acoustic patches don’t feel either an octave too high or too low. I picked up a Fantom 07 for a quick throw and go for gigs. The Fantoms are good and can do what you need but they don’t sound as good as a well loaded Kronos.
@drtolgaege
Жыл бұрын
It would be awesome for korg to collobrate with apple silicon chips in their next flagship workstation, loading vsts directly into the hardware, small onboard battery for boot up in 1 second (sleep function) , retina display with 1000 nits, tons of knobs and faders like nord, Bluetooth midi function, also choice for micro kronos option for gigging musicians. Otherwise travelling with macbook pro with m chip and Bluetooth midi keyboard is Better option for me.
@Lael128
Жыл бұрын
Sounds like you want to dive into either the MacBook world or jump into the pool of iOS music production. I kept my Kronos safely at home while on stage I had a Roland RD-700 with my iPad Pro, USB96 Presonus interface (has midi I/O thus I hold it in higher regard than the red boxes everyone goes for) and nanoKONTROL2 to control all of the AUV3 sounds in the AUM host app. A good controller with built in interface would’ve been my choice if the RD wasn’t laying around. And to put things into perspective, nothing can replace my Kronos even though I have Keyscape, Omnisphere, Pianoteq, Kontakt libraries etc… I’ll always go back to the Kronos and mix in the sounds from the VST’s with it. But at this point Kronos no longer leaves the house as repairs are costly, lengthy, and not guaranteed! The Nautilus would’ve been on my radar if it had faders instead of only knobs. The sounds are awesome, and combining them with nice controller features would’ve made it my ideal choice on stage like Kronos used to be. Sorry for the lengthy reply, but I’ve been down that exact path you’re talking about 😅
@drtolgaege
Жыл бұрын
@@Lael128 I have montage 6 and stage 3. It would be fine getting brand new Kronos previous year.
@Lael128
Жыл бұрын
@@drtolgaege You're well served with fantastic machines! The Montage is very VST friendly in my experience. Having it with the iPad worked out well in the past for gigs.
@atrothe
Жыл бұрын
Korg will have something more expensive for sure. They are gonna run out stock and announce something amazing for sure. They make fantastic workstations.
@WoodyPianoShack
Жыл бұрын
i agree, and they recently launched a massively exoenseive arranger keyboard, so still making tbe high-end stuff, so apparently a market for it.
@motownpontiac
9 ай бұрын
The Kronos has and always will kick the stuffing out of the Nautilus. However, it makes me wonder what Korg has in development. It's not like them not to have a killer flagship workstation.
@MrRafalSC
Жыл бұрын
Nautilius vs Wavestate SE ... ? the same price .....
@classicarcadeamusementpark4242
Жыл бұрын
Korg should have added aftertouch in the first place. However, aftertouch is a poorly supported feature in today's top tier keyboard sound collections such as the Kronos, Montage & Fantom. In decades past, aftertouch was a very well supported feature on keyboards such as the Korg M1 where you couldn't live without it. Kronos vs Nautilus. The number one difference is software compatibility. The Kronos was a platform that was very popular and around for a decade. With today's modern workstation style synths, they are essentially a computer platform. Imagine if Microsoft came out with a new version of Windows that was totally or highly incompatible with previous versions of Windows. It probably wouldn't be too popular. And also asking for the users to learn how to drive all over again how to operate it. This is essentially what Korg did with the Nautilus. Due to numerous complaints, the Nautilus went from totally incompatible with the many Kronos sound libraries to "partly" compatible. Many great Kronos sound collections are incompatible with Nautilus. A high percentage. The physical differences between the Kronos & Nautilus are far less significant than the lack of compatibility and that the keyboard operates differently too. This also means all the tons of online Kronos support doesn't apply to the Nautilus. When Yamaha's MODX came out, the MODX6 was just $1299 and the Nautilus at least $2000 or maybe $2200. The MODX is 100% compatible with it's big brother the Montage, but also the highly popular MOTIF series and the DX-7 & other 1980s Yamaha's too. It's weight just half of the flagship Montage model. The Nautilus 61 by comparison shaved off just 2 lbs from the Kronos. The MODX6+ is now $1499, and the regular Nautilus 61 without aftertouch can be bought on sale for $1699. This makes the Nautilus more attractive than it used to be, but still you have to carry almost double the weight to gigs, you have fewer sound collections available to buy for the Nautilus, far less tech support resources online of getting help. The MODX ecosystem is much better than the Nautilus, and this is one of the things that makes it so popular. $1699 is probably blow out pricing for the Nautilus as the real new price is $2199 now with aftertouch (but again, not as well supported of a feature as with older synths). The MODX has a large touch screen which I don't struggle to see also. I tend to think the Nautilus has sold poorly against the MODX, but I don't have sales figures. Every store I've been in tells me the MODX has sold like hot cakes. My best guess is Korg sooner rather than later will have an entirely different new flagship synth that is totally incompatible with the Nautilus and the Kronos. And a total lack of future sound collections will be made for Nautilus. Yamaha likely will make their next synths fully compatible with the Montage, MODX, MOTIF's & DX-7. I feel that alone is a huge advantage. I still runs tons of 10 - 20 year old software on my Windows laptop. With Korg, all to often they like to abandon their users when moving forward.
@dan-h2g
Жыл бұрын
Step down from the kronos.
@artmaster08ua81
10 ай бұрын
Kronos has Karma .. Nau-- receip from farma Author -- blocks his own chairma
@LightShadow
11 ай бұрын
They will eventually have to bring back the Kronos - I don't see Jordan Rudess playing the Nautilus live and he is their most respected sponsored keyboard player. NO WAY !
@MFitz12
Жыл бұрын
Since it says right on the Korg USA web site the Nautilus line is the new flagship workstation synth, that question is answered. Of course its been over a year since the last Kronos left the factory so that was a bit bleeding obvious. That the Nautilus is not as much machine as Kronos, particularly prior to the AT version is also obvious. Korg seems to be abandoning the high-end workstation market and gearing itself more towards overpriced single-engine synthesizers with its latest releases.
@StargateMax
Жыл бұрын
I don't like the Nautilus. I had the Kronos X almost 10 years ago when it was the newest flagship model, and I loved it, except for one thing -- it booted up forever. I could turn it on, then go and take a shit and wash my hands, come back, and it would still load the system... Now I have the M3 Xpanded, it also slow to boot, but still much quicker than Kronos. Triton and Trinity are very quick, I mostly use those in my studio. I also have the M1 and 01/Wfd, they practically don't even boot, lol, I turn them on and they're ready in 1-2 seconds. :D
@WoodyPianoShack
Жыл бұрын
haha, the naut is just as slow as the kron, don't bother me, i just power it up a long time before i actually need it, go do something else, then it's ready to go when I return! the other day I had it hang up a few times on me, then the unwanted and forced reboot time was super annoying.
@Roboprogs
Жыл бұрын
Power up Nautilus 61, power up Casio 88. Noodle on Casio until Nautilus starts making noises (via USB MIDI from the Casio). Or just make coffee or hit the restroom ;-) I love my N61, except for the 2 1/3 minute boot time.
@hufftalbot9296
Жыл бұрын
Korg are just taking the piss.
@leepride7978
Жыл бұрын
I bought the Nautilus years ago. I don't know about it being the new flagship. people love the nine faders and Wavestate joystick. Montage is coming out anew in October. I think something new will be out.
@walterlebzax9585
Жыл бұрын
There's nothing wrong with my Kronos. If the only distinction between old and new keyboards is the sound engine, it is no longer worthwhile for a person to purchase hundreds of keyboards. They should think about selling software separately from hardware. We don't have to buy a new PC each time a new version of Windows is released.
@ElektronicCricket
Жыл бұрын
I tried a Kronos once and wanted to make a sequence … was very disappointed about using the touch screen. Very difficult to edit ,changing values ,… i work much faster on a pc …for a flagship in this price. Positive thing😊 Korg has generally great sounds … like the 9 engine’s. I have the feeling that they’re making too much different products and they lose their focus on the most important stuff. Why a synth without AT and now after few years. (The same with the prologue … nice synth but no AT)
@mrdali67
Жыл бұрын
Well. As you said it isn't a flagship product. More a midrange product, where the Yamaha ModX is specificly a lowend product that sounds like a flagship if you have an existing quality Keyboard to play it on. It isn't anthing worse than take the Yamaha Genos, which is also made primarily of what I will call "good quality plastic" to keep the weight down without cheaping out on the keybed even the original Nautilus lacks the aftertouch. It feels like a much nicer instrument than the ModX line and also cost more. One thing I don't get tho is how Korg think that 700$ extra for the AT model should be a fair price for adding an aftertouch strip. That makes the AT models sit just a tad lower than the Kronos price before it got discontinued. Do Korg think people is that stupid that they can't see this 2 step model to make people in 2024 pay practically the same for a Nautilus AT as a Kronos in 2012 ? I must say I fully agree with you. Very much doubt there will be a sucessor to the Kronos that will land around the 4.5 to 5K range of price. The market for this type of gear is just becomming to narrow to give enough profit to put the ammount of R&D in comming up with a new system that is future proof compared to software. to make "normal" users buy this. Korg just released the Pa5X last year to compete with the Genos. And the Pa5X Muzikant is just comming now. And I kinda think this is where you will see the most expensive boards in the future. It's more geared to the home users that don't need to be particularely skilled but have enough money to pay for a home / Hobby instrument that sounds fantastic, like Organs was in 70ies - late 80's. The Pro's today will be buying specific interesting polysynths they like and organize recording and software synths/Sample libraries on a laptop instead. Maybe use something like the new Rhodes or other competing "Stage Pianos" as base. This type of instruments with limited ammount of editing but good quality bread and butter sounds that is easy to arrange in like 4 sound zones is becomming more and more popular instead of a titan of a workstation like the Kronos that most but the really pro users never ever learn more than maybe 10% off it's potentials.
@Ast3rixMusic
Жыл бұрын
Wow Korg the upgrade should be free to existing users who purchased the Nautilus expecting it to be a true replacement for the Kronos paid 2300 for the 88 key keyboard. Korg has really lost it. Why on earth would they not include aftertouch in the flagship workstation period? 300 add on? Why? It should have been there to begin with... This was a response to customer complaints I am very sure, however wow they are not the same company they use to be. While I love the sound of the Nautilus I am just taken back by how much it is the same as the Kronos. They didn't do very much to make it a better workstation. They streamlined it by removing some of the menus and downsizing the screen and removing aftertouch.
@WoodyPianoShack
Жыл бұрын
free upgrade... now that's an interesting idea, like a product recall in the automotive industry!
@Ast3rixMusic
Жыл бұрын
@@WoodyPianoShack Yes considering I paid close to $3,000 I expected it to have all the normal items a workstation should have in this price range. They didn't do much in changing the sound and we still have the same tired workflow that is more than 20 years old at this point. I can live without karma, but the sequencer needs to be replaced period.
@EdgyNumber1
Жыл бұрын
*Yes Woody,* I took the plunge and bought a secondhand Nautilus 61. £1299. Excellent condition and warrantied for a year too. I don't need aftertouch but I've got enough there to keep me occupied. I also have a NanoKontrol2 coming to make up for the lost of the faders. A good deal I think. I wonder if there's an aftermarket upgrade to a capacitive touchscreen.
@WoodyPianoShack
Жыл бұрын
congrats, that's a killer deal! the nano working out for you? i've been tempted to get one. no screen upgrade is available.
@lanadroismail5313
Жыл бұрын
What a shame to stop Kronos....
@judsonchristudas
Жыл бұрын
@WoodyPianoShack The most up to date Fantom is the latest Fantom, but it's not advanced as the Kronos.
@runestone1337
Жыл бұрын
I've still got the "MADE IN JAPAN" sticker on the top key of my Kronos 61. I wonder if the new Kronos will have one?
@WoodyPianoShack
Жыл бұрын
nice 1, i can tell you that my naut has that sticker too!
@Jason75913
Жыл бұрын
Is the UI still as sluggish as the original Nautilus? And requires more menu-diving than the cheaper Krome EX and older (and cheaper) M50, curse Korg for this assininity. I see the same right side controls on that skimpy front panel. Geez, I hope they at least made its OS snappier.
@WoodyPianoShack
Жыл бұрын
i don't find myself doing much diving on the naut, most essential features that i need are just a button press away to take you to that screen. but yes, it is sluggish, taking a few hundred ms to load a page, change modes etc.
@Jason75913
Жыл бұрын
@@WoodyPianoShack Last time I messed with one at a local store, some of the functions I more often use were a few menu levels deep. Completely unlike Korg's cheaper, and some older, offerings. It is irritating to be paying a lot more for a high-end keyboard and getting a worse usability experience, and it is obvious that it was done to save a few pennies. I tried going through the sequencer for the heck of it, and that was the worst thing of all. Aside from the sluggish UI, the CPU is likely underpowered. Well, it's not like I need it, a Nautilus is pure luxury, I'll wait on the Nautilus' successor some years from now, see how that turns out.
@angelovdweerden6585
Жыл бұрын
I still love my Oasys 😊
@zardoz53
Жыл бұрын
Seems like alot is missing here from the stable Kronos 2, which has aftertouch, KARMA, etc. I will not be switching.
@WoodyPianoShack
Жыл бұрын
i doubt anybody would actually switch from kronos to nautilus, i mean it would be a downgrade right?
@BRJHA80
Жыл бұрын
I think they should bring back the Triton or Trinity BTW, has anyone every wondered why Korg uses a 73 key instead of 76?
@AtomizedSound
Жыл бұрын
Kronos is still King of the workstation keyboards over the Nautilus. It’s a shame they discontinued it but it had to happen eventually. Hopefully the next successor to the Kronos in its power and capabilities will be phenomenal
@imaxximus
Жыл бұрын
I own a triton 88, oasys 88, kronos 61 and 88. The nautilus isn’t a step forward other than in its price. The loss of karma is tremendous loss. I’ll stick with my boards and look forward to them blowing us away.
@trevypoos
Жыл бұрын
I think that Korg are probably doing something similar to Yamaha, but are less keen to share. After all Yamaha announced the end of the Montage recently, and that its replacement was coming later in the year. Presumably this means that their flagship product will be made in the same factory that made its predecessor.
@Rezzidential
9 ай бұрын
What A Downgrade
@pizzagogo6151
Жыл бұрын
Thanks Woody hadn’t head about this, I’ve never used a Nautilus & was a fan of the Kronos, so I am a bit disappointed by the news I really was holding out , & thought there would be a Kronos 3 (& I was hoping for a better VA engine based on the fantastic one in the King Korg)...oh well I guess that’s progress😔
@dvamateur
Жыл бұрын
Korg might still release a full blown workstation with the plethora of sliders and all. To me, personally, I love the Nautilus, and I am especially excited about the Nautilus AT, because that means that the Nautilus is here to stay for while. And it's comforting for me to have a desirable instrument to aspire to at the local music store. I just never warmed up to the Kronos simply due to its aesthetics.
@arcanics1971
Жыл бұрын
I am sure a new flagship Korg will be along before too long. Korg won't leave themselves looking like they aren't competing on equal grounds with their main competitors. But I think we might see a significant jump in price to the Kronos replacement: possibly 5000-7000. This is complete speculation and based on absolutely nothing whatsoever though.
@WoodyPianoShack
Жыл бұрын
thanks, and I think you're right, the new NS4 that everyone is gushing about is priced close to that ballpark.
@Lael128
Жыл бұрын
Korg has been unrivalled in workstations from Triton Extreme, M3, Oasys, and Kronos. This Nautilus is just a Kronos without some useful features (for me at least) like faders 🎚️ instead of only knobs 🎛️ and I’ve yet to test if it has a class compliant built in audio interface like the Kronos or even something budget like Yamaha’s MX line does. I love creating combis in the Kronos and the faders are such an easy way to adjust part volumes on the fly. They should’ve included at least four faders like the MODX and added a mod wheel to replace the axis joystick. When my Kronos broke last October, I chose to repair and keep rather than repaid and replace because none of the flagships seemed up to par except for some Kurzweil options which really had me thinking hard! Anyway, I’m looking forward to what Korg has in store for the future and by then my current Kronos will be over 10yrs old and it’ll be a good excuse to start shopping.
@wilkopiano
Жыл бұрын
I would wait to see what the new yamaha montage is like first. I have heard many game changing things … 😮
@D76-z2h
Жыл бұрын
The standard Nautilus I think responds to a keyboard with AT even though it's keyboard does not have the feature. When originally launched I thought the price was too high so waited until last summer when picked up a new 73 model for around £1550. These new 66 and 88 versions are retailing around £600 more for the AT key bed so wondering if a better route would be to invest in a 66 or 88 Komplete Kontrol instead, that does have AT. So a much bigger bang for your buck considering the options you then have at your fingertips even just sticking with the free bundled NI software. Of course if a gigging musician taking 2 keys boards rather than one, might be a big deal. But for those of us who use them in home studios probably very much worth considering as an alternative. One other issue with the Nautilus is that it uses the Korg USB Driver which makes it ridiculously complicated to hook up to a windows PC if you have lots of other MIDI gear. Simply as unless the Nautilus is listed in the top 10 midi connections, it seemingly is not seen by your windows DAW. There is a workaround however it's overly complex and certainly not plug and play like similar gear from other manufacturers. I love the sound of my Nautilus but Korg do seem to make some very strange choices with their products these days.
@abc456f
2 ай бұрын
I have an M50 and you're right about the editor plugin. I've got it to work but I need it hooked up with usb AND midi din cables. I would have thought Korg had worked this issue out. I'm getting near the point where I want to upgrade to a new keyboard and seems there are issues with all if them. Roland fantom 08, Yamaha modx8+ both have keybed issues. Idk, studiologic numa? Native Instruments? Any suggestions?
@Teeb2023
Жыл бұрын
I hope this heralds the introduction of a Kronos VST... if that's even possible in software with the Karma engine. I really regret selling my Kronos a few years ago, and can't afford to reacquire one.
@madness8556
Жыл бұрын
I was a huge Korg fanboy having owned over a dozen of their top of the line instruments for over 25 years. I find that the company has lost its way since the release of the Kronos and haven't done anything new or innovative in over 2 decades. I was indeed ready to buy the original Kronos back in 2011 but decided against it after working out that it takes almost 3 minutes for the instrument to boot up! Korg haven't rectified this situation in the last decade. The HD1 sample engine with its gigabytes of waveform ROM doesn't really sound much better than their previous workstation from mid 90s such as the Trinity IMHO. They took away valuable sequencer features such as queue lists and piano roll in their budget Krome workstation. Now they've replaced the Kronos with an obviously inferior Nautilus AT making out that it's such a big deal that they reintroduced aftertouch that their almost 40 year old keyboards such as the DW8000, DSS1 and DS8 had! Wake up Korg!
@delta110a
6 ай бұрын
No sliders, less buttons, no modulation ribbon/strip; smaller display, AT issue from the beginning (extra paid feature), no Karma - how it can be called flagship workstation ? I was lucky when bought K2 88 before end of it's production. Earlier I had K1 73 and it was enough for me. I was thinking about Nautilus (at the beginning) however initial specs was horrible. Nautilus IMHO is a Korg's flagship downgrade.
@Gentlemanrgbg
8 ай бұрын
Kronos is the number one for ever.....who plays a nautilus....no one...all play a KRONOS or Nord Stage....thats a fact
@craigmakarowski6460
Жыл бұрын
Woody, thanks for the comparision, but most people don't really get the Karma engine by Stephen Kay I own the Wavestation and the karma and the M3 and now the Kronos first gen version the karma Engine is miles above most Sequencers Even though the Kronos has a full sequencer in it. once you really get into this item that sets it apart from most other keyboards and the Nautilus, it opens up a new creativity of fun and exploration that is boundless. The only real cool item that Korg really put out recently was the Korg Wavestate albeit 2 years ago, I just got one this year and compared to my Wavestation wow. the wave state is so programmable and dynamic to play. So I hope that Korg is working on a new Flag ship again. teh real issue i see with the high end machines is that they use a PC mother board inside to have the horse power for all the 9 Engines, and as we know that PC's change every 6 months. this makes a machine like the Kronos hard to repair if the motherboard breaks down and replace when they are probably no longer available. so the Nautilus came about! Would i buy a Nautilus yes if I didn't have a Kronos sure. I'm betting that the Karma engine isn't in the Nautilus because of Licensing fees is why it isn't in it sadly. Also the Wavestate inovation was vbecause Korg saw the Raspberry Pi compute module as a solution for the wavestate and the Modwave and the Modsix which produced 3 Low cost synths. Brilliant for sure and the Raspberry pi will be around for a long time I'm betting a a couple of decades for that. who knows what else will come from that. Love your channel a lots keep up the great work and demos! I enjoy them a lot 🙂
@dvamateur
Жыл бұрын
I saw a Karma demo once by Steven Kay himself. Seems like an AI system. To me personally, any types of auto-accmpaniment or arpeggiator are unnecessary. To me, Karma seems to be in the same category.
@elpoder08
Жыл бұрын
Maybe it's just me, but I can't get over the fact how (to me) ugly the Nautilus (61 & 73 vers) look. I just don't dig it. The Kronos 2 on the other hand 😮💨😮💨
@kerryvest
15 күн бұрын
Personally I wish Korg would have kept the Oasis. When I finally could afford one, it had been discontinued. I did get a Kronos and I love it!! I’m really disappointed that they discontinued it. The Nautilus is a major downgrade and I’m disappointed that Korg is calling it their new Flagship model.
@Vangelismusic1
Жыл бұрын
KRONOS is still KING for me, period.
@bryanskrantz
Жыл бұрын
I find it really upsetting that they discontinued the Kronos. There's so much potential there and they could have at least updated the internals. The OS Specifically. 9 engines. 9.come on Korg! I spent 5K US on my Kronos 2 thinking that it'd be future proof. guess I need to rethink that. especially dealing with Korg. and they also removed the Ribbon control.
@jamesedinger4956
Жыл бұрын
The OASYS owners thought they would be future proof too.
@WoodyPianoShack
Жыл бұрын
it'll all end well, imagine if the next kronos has 12 engines, the new ones being the wavestate, modwave and fm one (whatever that was called, opstate?)
@bryanskrantz
Жыл бұрын
@@WoodyPianoShack opsyx. I've had the VSTs of both and they're good engines
@anijon
Жыл бұрын
An assumption, due the current economical situation. Korg doesn't see a point in releasing a "Flagship" right now. As they are not going to put a ground breaking (like the Kronos) Synth only to lose in sales. They will beat this Kronos architecture till people can afford the next flagship. Korg always seem to way ahead of the curve, like the Trinity, Triton, not the M3 & the Kronos. Nice video Woody.
@ChrisP3000x
Жыл бұрын
Just curious, but exactly what "economical situation" are you referring to? And why is no other instrument company halting flagships due to the "economical situation"?
@anijon
Жыл бұрын
@@ChrisP3000x So glad you asked.
@AtomizedSound
Жыл бұрын
@@ChrisP3000xgood points but then again what are the sale numbers on those “flagships” you speak of? Do you know? Or are you speculating? Also not every company is gonna operate the same in putting out products. Korg might be wiser and waiting on a more right time to announce and release a successor OR they are still developing it and it’s not ready yet either. We can argue semantics all day but unless you have raw data for all these companies or what there thought process is, we don’t know
@ChrisP3000x
Жыл бұрын
@@AtomizedSound 1) I never spoke of "sale numbers". So your dead wrong there. 2) I never made any claim that companies "operate the same". So you are dead wrong again. 3) I never made any points. I simply asked 2 simple questions. So you are dead wrong, .....yet again. You are delusionally seeing things that don't exist, and refuting strawmen.
@arthurallsopp9344
Жыл бұрын
You forgot the Organ Emulator engine.
@WoodyPianoShack
Жыл бұрын
perhaps a deliberate blunder to keep you all busy in the comments.....??? :)
@AndrewLeSynt
8 ай бұрын
..... even the grandmother OASYS rulez over the new kromes and nautilus'es ❤❤❤❤
@musicrockzx
11 ай бұрын
The Korg returned famous M1 design to 21st century,
@WildernessMusic_GentleSerene
11 ай бұрын
Synth markets are small, manufacturers must be jumping after the short term demand all the time. I don't know how they even make any money at this synth game? You would think all of these synths would be modular with boards that can be replaced with new technology boards. All the workstation synths I buy have physical controls, with one of the best examples the very inexpensive Medeli AK-x10 with lots of physical control plus a large touch screen that responds as good as any $4000 workstation. Medeli"s great interface is controlling a keybed that doesn't respond well and with a velocity range to mechanics of the bed that is not controllable. Sadly, many pro features are not included for those who need to program their own styles. And there we have the keyboard industry and why we all own so many, using each one for their strength because no one keyboard can do it all or all they claim it can do.
@tonylancer7367
Жыл бұрын
I'm pretty sure this is a calculated move in anticipation of what Yamaha will bring in the coming months, it's also not a coincidence that Yamaha also discontinued the Montage. Besides, these companies have a pretty good idea of what the other is doing, so they'll try to be as competitive as they can without stepping toes.
@WoodyPianoShack
Жыл бұрын
that's a good and interesting theory, thx for sharing!
@djkanyon
Жыл бұрын
Korg LOVES menu diving! I tried to use Electribe 2, but after hours of rotating knobs and torturing my eyes staring on tiny screen i just quit... I thought it was one off but no, i tried other synths of Korg and dear god... i'm sure they doing this on purpose to mess with the minds of poor peasants like us! Just kidding. But anyway 2 grands for Nautilus is an absolute steal. To be honest i don't know how Korg will sell all them new Opsixes for the same prices! Wow Korg is weird, but now it's for our benefit. Thanks Woody! Your videos is always a pleasure!
@WoodyPianoShack
Жыл бұрын
thanks for the kind words! yes, you're right, a lot of screen gazing on the electribe. but one of the few pieces of gear I regret selling. and these days. they cost 150 bucks more than they used to so I won't be getting another.
@jeremythornton6090
9 күн бұрын
I have a 1st gen Kronos and I hope I get many more years out of it. The Nautilus just isn’t even close to the Kronos. I hope this is just a stopgap before Korg makes a proper successor to the Kronos.
@sonic2000gr
Жыл бұрын
Well Korg is now about to sell the 600 euro Wavestate/Opsix with a 61 key keybed for about 3-4 times the price. So it looks like they found their new cash-cow.
@WoodyPianoShack
Жыл бұрын
yeah, a lucrative price bump for more keys or AT!
@dariainiowa478
Ай бұрын
I don't think they should have discontinued the Kronos until after the next flagship keyboard was released... I don't want a Nautilus... the Kronos is a board that can do anything you want it to... why do manufacturers think it's OK to leave important features off of keyboards they make?... Korg decisions... Korg made a terrible decision after the Triton was released... the Triton had a touchscreen that let you select patches... no problem there, but then they put pretty much the same synth in the Karma (the Triton didn't have the Karma electronics), but they didn't put a touchscreen on the Karma and then the only way they gave you to select sounds was spinning the data wheel and +1 / -1 buttons... that's a terrible way to access sounds during a gig... they should have added dedicated buttons to select banks and patches... in my opinion, the Karma was released too fast without giving us all we need... that's what I like about Yamaha... they give you the bank and patch buttons you need and you can access pretty much any sound with a few quick button presses... you definitely don't HAVE TO spin a wheel... I liked the layout of the DX7 (and the other DX synths)... every synth should have a data entry slider like the DX synths... you can go from one extreme to the other selecting data INSTANTLY... they still give you the +1 / -1 buttons and patch buttons... data entry sliders are so much faster and better than other systems (and it should of course have the patch buttons)... I remember programming the DX7 and I never wanted anything different... it was an outstanding layout... wheels don't properly replace data entry sliders (I don't like data entry knobs either)... when it comes to rackmount synthesizers, we still want our bank and patch buttons... they could make them small if they need to, but rackmount synths are terrible for selecting patches at a gig... I don't know why there are so many examples of synths without bank and patch buttons... it's more than just convenience... they make fast patch selections no matter where the patches you need are stored... some people would argue that a controller keyboard can select patches, and though this is true, a person shouldn't have to own another piece of equipment just because synths are poorly designed and thought out... not all controller keyboards can select patches... I sometimes use my Yamaha P-70 piano to play my other synths... it has weighted piano action keys and MIDI Out, but it can't select patches with MIDI...
@jordanking7711
Жыл бұрын
Also unless you’re talking about the original Kronos and not the revised models, the Kronos hasn’t been discontinued. Well at least not everywhere as far as I can tell anyway. Even though it may not be on the Korg UK website, it still is on the Australian site. Don’t trust everything that Wikipedia says. Having said that though, I hope Korg releases a new workstation soon, and that the Nautilus isn’t going to be the only one. Especially for those who want more hands on control.
@WoodyPianoShack
Жыл бұрын
interesting to hear about oz, but removed from korg's global page and not for sale in any european or us retails (afaik) means it is very much discontinued! maybe some nos sill hanging around down under, lucky yous!
@DrawAndErase
Жыл бұрын
I ended up getting a really good second hand Kronos that's been perfect a few years ago. I got it for cheaper than a brand new Nautilus and it's been a dream. Just don't have the latest sound packs but who cares, just programme the sounds you need yourself. I love the name of the Nautilus and the design so I hope it sticks around, but as Luke from Korg said this is the current flagship atm since the Kronos is discontinued, but I see the Nautilus as a segue way instrument, this is a way to use the last of the Kronos in a smaller package to bring up their mid range which was previously the Krome while they develop their next flagship. Whether that's the Nautilus 2 or something else who knows, but we probably won't see it until 2025 at the earliest, you also have to imagine that their smaller keyboard range the wavestate and opsix might join the new engines as a replacement for the MOD7. This could be the perfect time for Yamaha to come in and steal some marketshare depending on what the nw Montage can do because the Kronos hasn't really been dethroned since 2011 and it's obvious the Fantom isn't going to do it.
@WoodyPianoShack
Жыл бұрын
ah, interesting that you mention luke's comments! well, it is obviously true that it is the current flagship, but nobody from korg will say if that will always be the case, also feeling your hunch about the inclusion of some of the new engines.
@JKVisFX
3 ай бұрын
My suspicion is that they do have a replacement coming, it's just not going to be called Kronos. They have a lot to compete with with the Montage M and the Kronos was just not there. I'm speculating that the Kronos X(?) will have a much more powerful computer at it's core that will allow it to run many more instances of each engine along with at least 256 notes poly and at least 16 channels, ideally as much as 32 channels of audio out with a USB 3 based audio over USB interface, USB online storage expansion for samples, programs, patches, etc. that can accommodate as much as 4TB of storage, an iPad-sized, glass touchscreen at HD resolution, a poly aftertouch keybed, plus some other additional modulations sources such as a ribbon controller and even their version of the Yamaha "Super Knob." At least, if I were Korg, that's the new flagship synth I would build. I would also make it available as a keyboardless desktop unit and, also release it as an AU/VST3 standalone soft-synth.
@beadlesastout
Жыл бұрын
Many companies are realeasing a lower tier product first to try and entice people to jump in a buy what they think is the top spec product. They then hope once the flagship model cones out those same people(whales) will buy that too. Many tech companies are doing this now, they are releasing their flagship products last once the lower product has sold well.
@bentojgaard5434
Жыл бұрын
Nautilus: Outdated 32 bit pc-motherboard from 2011 inside. No room for software improvements, thats for sure 🤷♂️
@WoodyPianoShack
Жыл бұрын
you might well be right about that old motherboard and CPU, but I will say it is just about "good enough" to run the synth anyways so maybe doesn't matter so much.
@dvamateur
Жыл бұрын
Well, maybe one day Korg will get big enough to make their own DSP chips as Yamaha and Roland do. On the other hand, the vast majority of users want the GPU capabily for things like graphic displays and touch screen, so maybe an all purpose CPU is the way to go. Anyway, Korg will know best.
@FlowJunkie65
5 ай бұрын
Woody, I totally agree with you, Woody! I sincerely believe that Korg has something else up its sleeve for their flagship workstation; hence, why they don't market the Nautilus as their "flagship" workstation, like they did for the Kronos. It also seems unlikely that Korg would put the Nautilus up against the Yamaha's flagship Montage M models. I think Korg's next flagship workstation is going to add a lot more features, better user interface, include more sound engines and memory, and will start at about $3,000 -- the same starting price for the Kronos 2 61.
@inperfectsequence7840
Жыл бұрын
Korg seems to only reduce production costs and technical support for products that do not sell as much. This already happened with Krome when they released Kross2 where they managed to give all the power of Krome+ kross with sounds from the kronos and they put it in a cheap casing of a Triton Le on steroids that they called it Kross 2 for less than 800 euros, much more powerful than the Krome, but without a touch screen (an advantage that it does not have sensitive areas in case it breaks). Nautilus keeps everything from Kronos but also has the famous PA 700, Nautilus is a perfect beast for a musical tool for professional arrangers, although I think they removed too many controls from the panel forcing the user to use the touch screen a lot as it happened in Krome. I guess they want to release more stuff as well, although the OASYS is for me the most powerful machine that korg could bring back with a new modern update. Thanks for the video, great informative job.
@sureshbathma4479
3 ай бұрын
Kronos is always a king. Mind it...nautilus is budget frindly..thats all...dont say like that..its totaly iritating me
@mickehaglund4119
6 ай бұрын
I’m happy I was able to buy a K273 and a Kx61. And will hold on to them. But but there is stuff I don’t like about the Kronos. The long start up time and heavy board. And now when they have discontinued it. Makes it even harder to get one for gigs when you can’t bring it with you when have to travel to different countries.. I dunno I don’t like the keybed on the nautilus. Hopefully they working on a new flagship!
@tjsound1258
4 ай бұрын
I can't justify spending this $$$ on an unsupported instrument. I decided instead to buy into the next run of Kurzweil K2700. Korg really dropped the ball on this in my opinion.
@liviou2004
8 ай бұрын
Abolutely agree with you : the Nautilus is not a flagship ! Indeed, Kronos has been removed from Korg websites. But, one thing is sure : you wrote : "Kronos is Dead" but *Kronos is not dead* ! All the people who play on Kronos would never replace it with the Nautilus !! *Nautilus is a so pale copy of the Kronos* ... One thing, among many others, do the strength of the Kronos : all the physical controllers which have disappeared on the Nautilus.The Karma is an extraordinary and creative tool...removed on the Nautilus. Just one example : the Vector Joystick, intially from the Wavestation, has been set on the Kronos...as a great physical controller -> it has been virtually reproduced in the Nautilus screen but at the same time, no other controllers can be displayed. Ridiculous ! Such examples are numerous !
@xp50player
Жыл бұрын
I’ll bet it came down to their endorsees baulking at the lack of aftertouch.
@jordanking7711
Жыл бұрын
The 9 sound engines of the KRONOS/KRONOS 2 Woody are: SGX-1 (SGX-2 on the KRONOS 2 revision and Nautilus EP-1 - Electric Piano CX-3 Tonewheel Organ STR-1 (String Modelling) AL-1 (Analog Modelling from the ground up) MS-20 Polysix HD-1 MOD-7 (FM Synthesis) Hope that helps Woody
@WoodyPianoShack
Жыл бұрын
haha, thanks for that. now do it from memory without pausing or saying umm or ahhh! :D
@lundsweden
Жыл бұрын
@@WoodyPianoShackIt sounds similar to the Korg Z1 features wise. Or a tricked out Trinity or Triton with a MOSS board. But missing is the lovely bowed string model, and comb filtering.
@afterdarkmusic5630
Жыл бұрын
Korg really shot themselves in the foot when they expected us to accept a keyboard without aftertouch. With DAW's becoming cheaper combined with a growing VST market and Midi keyboards also becoming cheaper I have to ask "why would you need to buy a nautilus anyway?" The fact that most of the controls of the nautilus are now on screen pretty much replicates the controls for a VST synth so again why bother with a tiny screen when you could just simply use a VST synth with clear controls on your huge monitor screen. The only thing I can think its good for would be gigging. If I was in korg's development department I would be working hard trying to compete with Native Instruments and Arturia in the midi keyboard market as right now the NI S61 Mk2 is an fantastic piece of kit for a quarter of the price. Oh don't think I am anti korg as I currently have a Triton pro 76 and a triton extreme 76. Both now just used as Midi Keyboards with Spitfire Audio libraries/ Serum VST/ Spire VST giving me just as much scope and control inside presonus studio one 6 than a nautilus or kronus would ever have
@kptamc
Жыл бұрын
I think you give VSTs too much credit. They are a great tool for bedroom or studio producers but the problem with then is the operating systems/hardware that they have to run on. Win10/11 is just a mess. So is the Mac move to M1. People still need a hardware only OS-agnostic solution. You can turn on a 30 year old Wavestation and start playing. I have been in computing for 45 years and I can tell you how much software is no longer usable and 'left behind'. Something you did in a VST in 1993 is no longer playable. I am lucky enough to be able to run a XP virtual machine in Linux to hear some of the old stuff.
@paulmcgeever5343
2 ай бұрын
Karma shouldn't have been removed from a flagship keyboard but i believe it is a licencing thing. Basically korg didn't want pay for it any longer !
@markferreri5814
Жыл бұрын
I was fortunate to buy an 88 version of the Kronos 2. I did not realize what i bought until much later, because i was only thinking I was upgrading from my 88 key Trinity Pro 3 (which still works great, if archaic. I did buy a Roland Fantom 7 and the updated software is easier to navigate, i don’t feel it is as powerful as the Kronos in a number of ways. I was waiting for the Kronos replacement but caved in when I heard about the very sophisticated Pa5X. I bought the 76 key version. Yeah, its an arranger, but compliments my Kronos, Fantom 7 and an Integra 7 Rackmount rompler, by making life easier. Now, I still look forward to a new Korg flagship workstation but really like my Pa5X flagship arranger, and like it more than the Genos i tried. Come on, Korg, bring out a new flagship workstation! Can’t your decern that we all love(d) the Kronos for an entire decade? They would sell like hotcakes 😊
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