Do you prefer this 11-15, 22-17, 8-11, 23-19, 9-13, 17-14? Or this 11-15, 22-17, 8-11, 17-13, 15-18?
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11 ай бұрын
7 years late, but I figured I would reply to TikkiTakkiRikki, anyway. The line I would prefer would be the first option, but the moves would be completely different. Here is the issue, In checkers the goal is to attack the opponents weakness. The Weakest area is the double corner. The Strongest area is the single corner. For Red: The #1 & #5 squares are the weakest spot. The #4 square is the strongest spot. For White: The #28 & #32 squares are the weakest spot. The #29 is the strongest spot. ----- The move 11-15 is the best move for Red because of 3 key factors: 1. It advances from the Single Corner to the Center. 2. It doesn’t disturb or weaken the Double Corner. 3. It threatens to Attack Whites Double Corner with the follow up move 15-19. White has 2 very powerful responses. The 2 White moves are 22-17 or 23-19. ------ The move 22-17 is considered to be the best because it is an aggressive counter-attacking move. White move 22-17 has a follow up idea. White follow up idea is the move 17-14. Basically, White plan is to counter-attack Red Double Corner before Red attacks his Double Corner. It’s an aggressive move. Players who like attacking and playing more aggressive usually play this way. ------ The second best move in his position is the move 23-19. The reason 23-19 is considered to be second best move is because it is a defensive move. 23-19 prevents Red from playing 15-19. White “defends” his double corner by putting a checker on the 19 square which prevents Red from occupying it. It is a defensive move. Players who like defending and play more restrictive/positional usually play this way. ------- Now that I have explained the above information, you can see why I am saying the moves TikkiTakkiRikki talked about are not really accurate. After 11-15 & 22-17 The move 8-11 wouldn’t really be played. The move 8-11 doesn’t Attack enemy Double Corner and it doesn’t Defend your Double Corner. It is neither offensive or defensive so for that reason it isn’t a great move. The move is a playable move for sure, but it isn’t one of the best moves in the position. What are the better moves? 15-19 or 9-14 Do you see why? 15-19 attacks White weak Double Corner 9-14 defends Red weak Double Corner Lets say a player playing Red doesn’t know the above information and they just casually play 8-11. White best response is 17-14. The move 8-11 is like a small error. If white responds with a different move besides 17-14, the move they play would also be seen as small error. Keep in mind, the move 8-11 isn’t a losing move. It’s a small error, but it doesn’t lose the game. Players can still win, draw, and lose from this position. The reason I label it as an error is because when you consider the other move options Red has in this position. You can see how it doesn’t really measure up to those other moves. We can confidently say 15-19 & 9-14 are better moves in this position. ------ I, personally, have always favored the move 9-14 in this position because I think it is more Classical. White main response to 9-14 is 23-19. We can understand why white plays 23-19 in this position. White idea was to play 22-17 and follow up with 17-14 to counter attack Red weakness. Red stopped the counter attack by playing 9-14, but Red still has not lost his original threat. Red original threat is 11-15 and follow up 15-19 attacking White weakness. This is why White often plays the move 23-19. The move has a defensive purpose. White is trying to stop Red’s attack. ------- After the following moves are played, we reach a famous starting checker position. 1. 11-15, 22-17 2. 9-14, 23-19 On move 3, Red has several different Checker Openings they can play depending on the move they play. A. 8-11 B. 7-11 C. 6-9 D. 5-9 ------- Now, Some people might be wondering why I told TikkiTakki I liked the following position: 11-15, 22-17, 8-11, 23-19, 9-13, 17-14 I like the above position, but I just explained for 5 mins how I wouldn’t get into that position. lol Well, The truth is I do play the above position. I use a different move order. I reach TikkiTakki line thru transposition. So when my opponent plays 11-15. I respond by playing 23-19. The move 23-19 is a defensive move protecting my Double Corner. I’m not a very aggressive player so I try to defend first. If my opponent follows up with 8-11, I play 22-17. I defended my Double Corner successfully. So now I begin offensive operations with 22-17. If my opponent plays 9-13, they follow directly into my trap. I play 17-14 attacking into there Double Corner breaking it up. Here are moves TikkiTakki said: 11-15, 22-17, 8-11, 23-19, 9-13, 17-14 Here are my moves: 11-15, 23-19, 8-11, 22-17, 9-13, 17-14 If you play them out, you reach same position. The order of the moves are slightly different and the difference between the moves are extremely important. ------ 22-17 is more punishing. It can punish beginners or less experienced checkers players. The issue is when you play vs. good players. The move 22-17 lets good players strike first. 1. 11-15, 22-17 2. 15-19 Red moves first and if you don’t play 23-19 defending your 19 square. You give the Red player the ability to strike first. This is one of the reasons I stopped playing 22-17. I find the 15-19 line extremely annoying and a lot of good players will go into it. 23-19 is better at keeping good players at bay, but it comes at a cost. The cost is when you play vs. beginners or less experienced players the 23-19 doesn’t have same power. 22-17 is more brutal because it is a direct counter attacking offensive move. 23-19 is a defensive move and you can’t punish an enemy opponent with a defensive move. So yeah!
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