Ah, tistina: proof that TCG exclusives are mostly broken as hell...in either amazing or awful viability.
@BasiliusRavencroft
4 ай бұрын
The tistinas are based on a story about an eldritch entity named Q'yth-az
@cipherreese8877
10 ай бұрын
I’m happy to see someone else mention the possible lore connections between Tistina and Adamancipators. My theory is that the Adamancipator Synchro monsters were in the process of being corrupted into Tistinas within their crystal shells before being rescued by the Tuner monsters-explaining why only part of their bodies seem to be made of crystal. They were only partially transformed before being released.
@Rigald02
10 ай бұрын
Or, considering it appeared after, the opposite: as Tistina's corruption goes by crystal, an element omnipresent in adamancipators, it can be assumed they corrupted them in an alarmng rate, or their eggs, lending to a weaker birth (for exemple).
@cipherreese8877
10 ай бұрын
@@Rigald02 Also a very interesting theory
@j.w.7608
5 ай бұрын
Wait the tistina monsters are evil?!
@cephon6198
Ай бұрын
Also icejade, crystal monsters that are also aqua😊
@nael_luna
10 ай бұрын
I absolutely love this archetype, so creative and fun to experiment with. Though it feels like Icejades, just on the brink of something great/powerful that can be an amazing control option but still not there yet
@vla1ne
10 ай бұрын
the two decks have arguably the exact opposite flaws. with tistina, the deck has an AMAZING setup plan, but has no strong endgame plays, as they can't interact too well, while icejade has more difficulty starting up, but once online, it's easily among the strongest board locks in the game.
@nael_luna
10 ай бұрын
@@vla1ne that's why I'd love to mix those two up. But they have setups and playmakers that are too different to combine meaningfully I just wish Konami would turn on their brain and actually give decks which deserve support some love. Not stupid combo and oppressive setup decks
@qwertystop
6 ай бұрын
Icejade also has a lot of counterplay to specifically non-destruction removal, where Tistina is specifically against destruction. Really feels like they should complement each other better, but nope, Icejade wants WATER, not Aqua.
@nael_luna
6 ай бұрын
@@qwertystop which makes me fucking mad... especially because I'm trying to build a good rogue Icejade again... the two archetypes both look insanely gorgeous but cannot work with each other, stupid Konami
@nicholasdaniel2778
10 ай бұрын
To be honest... I actually like this archetype, not because of its versatility or overall playability, but just because of the artwork, each one of the cards is literally something I'd legit make as an art piece, frame it, and put it on my wall. It obviously gives me Eldritch vibes, but also Necrozma vibes, and Necrozma and its Ultra form... Is one of the best Pokemon... in my book.
@October_Wolf
10 ай бұрын
same got the deck max rarity even though its bad just because i looks so nice.
@captainmunchlax4808
10 ай бұрын
I agree, I’d get the XYZ monsters art as a field center if given the option
@duke3327
9 ай бұрын
Looking back at this how wild would it be if this turns out to be part of the Sinful Spoils storyline
@RustedZeus
6 ай бұрын
i actually made an eldlich tistina deck on masterduel recently and the functionality is fun
@SupremeKingZA-RC
4 ай бұрын
It also reminded me of necrozma too bad it’s ass
@Sokaras3
10 ай бұрын
Feeld like Tistinas were made intentionally flawed Aqua when there little aqua support Their level 2 fire is for xyz set up, but makes it difficult to make toad. If they made water level 2 and fire level 1 could not only use toad bit also diabelestar Xyz monster not treating name as crystal god Demigods summon and seach being one effect, so if ashed it doesnt summon itself out
@October_Wolf
10 ай бұрын
just nurfed before dropping teh most op ocg card
@Maikee777
10 ай бұрын
I play a tistina list with the xyz armor engine and its fucking cracked. You are a control that can easily otk. This is not a blind going second deck and indeed asks for help to the ocg but not sleep on them. This is the list (post phantom nightmare): Monsters: 1x Etermakina Carnord 2x Crystal God Tistina 3x Demigod of the tistina 1x Tainted of the Tistina 1x Hound of the Tistina 3x Sentinel of the Tistina 3x Gen 1x Ken 2x Ash blossom 3x Returned of the Tistina 3x Fallen of the Tistina Spell and traps: 3x Cyber Emergency 1x Rota 3x Play of the Tistina 3x Breath of the Tistina 3x Divine Domain Baatistina 3x Daruma Cannon 1x Discordance of the Tistina 1x Full-Armored Xyz 2x Infinite Impermanence 1x Sign of the Tistina Extra: 1x Zeus 1x Sky crisis 1x Superdreadnought ....Liebe 1x Number 81 2x Superdreadnought...Gustav max 1x Full Armored Dark Knight Lancer 1x Xyz Armor Fortress 1x Xyz Armor Torpedo 2x Tistina, the divinity that defies darkness 1x Hiita 1x Lyna 1x Wynn 1x Little knight Side: 1x ash 3x droll 3x druler 1x feather 3x book of eclipse 3x cosmic cyclone 1x imperm This is probably not the best decklist but i like it this way, peace
@hyperspacesushi
10 ай бұрын
We absolutely need more Aqua support. Icejades are neat as hell, and I will ALWAYS advocate for them as an archetype/deck, but they focus more on WATER as a whole... Please Konami, I beg, ONE more generic Aqua archetype 🙏 (and if it just so happens to sycnhronise with Icejade, that would be pretty neat 👉👈)
@monkeybooger4999
10 ай бұрын
I agree with giving generic support to types that need it (or level in some cases). But I need aqua support for this deck, I am really liking this otherworldy almost divine monsters vibe going on
@SloopYGO
10 ай бұрын
no more icejades pls, they just activate skill drain but with 2 cards
@nael_luna
10 ай бұрын
@@SloopYGO but it's not easy to do, you need 3 cards for that And it's not even guaranteed you'll open them/searchers for the spells and/or Kosmo (I play the deck so I have some experience with it and setting that up) so it's not overly obnoxious like other meta decks
@kaitai7302
10 ай бұрын
I heard that the next TCG exclusive is going to be Pyro based. Guess they wanted some contrast with two elemental types.
@goldendarius
10 ай бұрын
What they could do is: 1. An effect that is able to flip link monsters by considering them as monsters with 0 def 2. A card that summons tokens on your opponent's field so that you can go first, perhaps semi-floodgatey effect 3. A card that summons monsters from the opponents deck by milling their deck but negates their effects
@arthurpettigrew3074
10 ай бұрын
For those who know of Fate…makes you wonder if ORT decided to pay a visit.
@Sokaras3
10 ай бұрын
Fir their deck i am using small Therions package (as there is a therion aqua), the Full Armored cards (since their boss is and aqua), tottem bird (since they have level 3 winds) In game crystal god is usually used to suicide into opponents monsters to force them all face down 😄
@Sokaras3
10 ай бұрын
Art wise i joked to friend Tistina were AI generated - since they seem have little incommon among them other than "crystal stuff"
@LuciaBee-n3v
10 ай бұрын
The darkness being defied is the Gentle Darkness we just got more Yubelle so I that works with it’s villain role
@electrofire_508
10 ай бұрын
13:34 Nah I'd win
@Animelover3819
10 ай бұрын
Nova, this archetype is basically making the super boss of an ENTIRE FRANCHISE into card form, lacking the complete inability to die its inspiration had. It’s based on ORT from Type-Moon/the Nasuverse and that thing is completely and utterly insane.
@streetgamer3452
10 ай бұрын
I highly doubt that’s really the inspiration. Usually TCG exclusive archetypes are something much more widely known and Ort is not. They’re more likely to just be based on something from lovecraft
@Animelover3819
10 ай бұрын
@@streetgamer3452 it's a crystalline spider that converts all life around it into more crystals and the Xyz monster is almost basically ORT Xibalba.
@streetgamer3452
10 ай бұрын
@@Animelover3819 ye but once again, those aren’t widely known especially in the west and the change X thing into another is just common for monster gods
@Rigald02
10 ай бұрын
@@streetgamer3452 Actually it is more known than you think, considering FGO (the game Xibalba appears) is one of the most successful game on phone, and Type-Moon is quite know as for now. Although most doesn't know ORT as a reference, it becomes evident when you know him. Elder entity is the lovecraftian inspiration, and to be honest, Subterror isn't really based on something know... (and Shambhala isn't a know city by most). For those who don't know about ORT, it's kinda an inovative art style and concept. For those who knows... It is another matter.
@grodon909
10 ай бұрын
@@streetgamer3452 To be fair, not being widely known isn't much of a restriction. Like, the cycle of Samsara isn't widely known in the west, yet we have an entire multi-year long running lore archetype(s) about it. If we're thinking TCG archetypes, Ghoti is based on an old linguistics joke/meme thing that only a few people knew about before the archetype, and Gold Pride is almost certainly based on Speed Racer and or Wacky Races from the 1960's; not exactly prominent in the cultural zeitgeist.
@lukeshort2960
2 ай бұрын
I'm surprised you didn't mention "swords of concealing light" as a possible tech support for them.
@TheArmyofHades
9 ай бұрын
I often times wonder about these newer "bad" archetypes and how strong they would be if they came out a few years prior.
@Jiffyscardsandwares
10 ай бұрын
You know if you look at the Tistina archtype hard enough; they mirror the Yang Zings how they all have separate levels and different attributes except for the specific exceptions
@RomulloOLobo
10 ай бұрын
I’m using Tistina with Ken/Gen and Number 30 lock… and I’m in love with it.
@lucasthehumanity8240
10 ай бұрын
Feels like gold pride was the best tcg exclusive deck we've had lately
@EthanKironus8067
10 ай бұрын
For this not being worth the wait, your projected 'enthusiasm' is commendable. Truly. You acknowledged you weren't jazzed about it, but avoid expressing that negativity for much of the video.
@grimnation0745
10 ай бұрын
I play watt/tistina and it works fine with it makes things run very smooth in my opinion I also run xyz number 35 with the difference in LP it packs a punch I walk all over my friends when they face me even against swordsoul.
@monkeybooger4999
10 ай бұрын
That sounds like a funny deck , would you share the list? I am interested in using Tistina and am looking at different ways of doing so
@grimnation0745
10 ай бұрын
@@monkeybooger4999 Crystal God Tistina x2 Demigod of the Tistina x3 Sentinel of the tistina x2 Hound of the tistina x3 Tainted of the tistina x3 Signs of the tistina x3 Divine domain baatistina x3 Returned of the tistina x2 Fallen of the tistina x2 Play of the tistina x2 Breath of the Tistina x3 Wattuna x3 Wattgiraffe x2 Wattcobra x3 Wattkingdom x1 Book of moon x2 Book of lunar eclipse x1 Ash blossom x1 Quaking mirror force x3 Destructive daruma karma cannon x2
@grimnation0745
10 ай бұрын
@@monkeybooger4999 Extra deck: Egyptian god slime x1 Number 35: ravenous tarantula x1 Tistina, the divinity that defies darkness x2 Wattchimera x1 Wattkyuki x2
@grimnation0745
10 ай бұрын
@monkeybooger4999 It more a tistina deck with some watt cards enough to make synchro monsters to attack directly
@monkeybooger4999
10 ай бұрын
@@grimnation0745 Thanks for the answers
@beardedPUCK
10 ай бұрын
If i would think of some monster support for Tistina it should definetly be light. I cant really see anything else being a good option. In terms of a effect, there needs to be more thinking. Maybe some kind of protection or other recycling options. It already has a good offense, but the rest is lagging behind a lot. Im play testing it atm at my locals, so far just with loses, but i ll stay patient and hope the better times to come. :D
@darrenfrederickson5681
9 ай бұрын
a link 1 light recycler would crack the deck completely open lol
@beardedPUCK
9 ай бұрын
@@darrenfrederickson5681 an alternative could be a way to summon the continous trap more easily. Something that would set it on the board from deck and allows it to be acrivated immediatly.
@benoliver5593
6 ай бұрын
@beardedPUCK a link 1/2 would be the greatest answer especially if a hand is almost a dead hand
@neves783001
10 ай бұрын
Konami: Hey, Lasengle, could we copy your homework? Lasengle: Sure, just change a few things around so that it isn't obvious. Konami: Okay. (proceeds to make their own, less-impressive ORT)
@alanthieris4447
10 ай бұрын
You say that, but ORT works entirely on playground logic of being better than and immune to anything else. Which just gets dumber and dumber with each passing chapter from that game. The author was so adamant about making their knock off of Lavos that baddest thing ever that even after you finally defeat the damm thing they shill it further by saying that the one you fought was from an alternate timeline, and the one from YOUR timeline is even bigger and badder.
@Cwronaga216
10 ай бұрын
It's interesting that these cards are featured in some of the sinful spoils artwork implying that they are connected to the Snake Eyes and the Diabellstar lore
@Sokaras3
10 ай бұрын
War rocks are better only because they have wvarious warrior support. There is little Aqua support out there
@darkolos5836
10 ай бұрын
17:30 your opponent doesnt have to control at least 1 non-link monster. you can just search demigod with the sentinel, get breath, flip your own monster and get tainted etc.
@jooelewis
10 ай бұрын
You don't need to splash monsters to make Toadally Awesome. You can just play Buzzshaw Shark. Buzzshaw+Right Arm Shark=Buhamet=Toad. This gives you two monsters on the field and a monster that is A. Handtrap Bait or B. Protection so that you can then build a Tistina board. Also the ommition that the deck can easily play Full Armoned XYZ with limited deck resources, since the combos allow you to make it, is something that should not be ignored. Both of these card engines allow you do something significant going first while also leaving room for non-engine like Droplet and hand traps. If you don't like Buzzsaw, you could also play Tour Guide instead. Tour Guide does the same thing btw but is more limited since its only exclusively a line to Full Armoed. Which is actually fine since when you can shift away your XYZ play into something like Tarantula....
@allovertheworld5048
10 ай бұрын
Does anyone else think tistina the divinity that defies darkness sounds like a planeswalker or a legendary creature name from magic?
@pablocarrillo4920
6 ай бұрын
I trate to use the deck for xyz spam and Armored xyz combo(because is easy lvl3 or 4 xyz) and the combo is use Semi god efect in oponent turn and you active armored xyz to xyz 10 Tristina
@Dragon66898
10 ай бұрын
It’s a ruff archetype at the moment, it will most likely get some more support later but it’s pretty. I want more.
@Ramsey276one
10 ай бұрын
I hope more Patissier come out by the time you explain Nouvellez! Angel Cake? Deviled Ham?!
@ZEDEX252
10 ай бұрын
Glory to the rock gods!
@cliffkrahenbill5971
10 ай бұрын
Naw these are discount rocks 😂
@tanjakailer5459
6 ай бұрын
I think it is part from the Fallen of albaz lore not because of the fallen tistina it is because of the Black ICE (the same from the icejades)
@Sta_cotto
7 ай бұрын
So the "Tistina Engine" one could possibly throw into icejades is the OTK combo, right? 1x Fallen, Sentinel, Tainted, Crystal God, Divinity, Domain, and Breath, yea?
@ThatOneWeirdFlex
6 ай бұрын
You're adding 2 card combos and a brick boss monster to a deck that can already just run generic water support.
@Sta_cotto
6 ай бұрын
@@ThatOneWeirdFlex yes, and I have fun with it
@lord_boneman
10 ай бұрын
I’ve been listening to the video for a few minutes and can only think “Damn this sounds eerily familiar. What is the theme in the background?” MFW I remembered this is the Crystal Temple theme from Bravely Default, stupidly fitting. Well played.
@solarknight3942
10 ай бұрын
Nooooo I was so excited for this archetype! WHYYYYYYY
@ZEDEX252
10 ай бұрын
I would honestly just play book of moon and daruma canon in this deck just to reinforce the theme lol
@grimnation0745
10 ай бұрын
I run those in my watt/tistina deck and my friends hate playing against it 😂
@anactualanimal
6 ай бұрын
I mean i don't think the xrystal rot is that, as so far it seems it doesn't take away your free will but rather grants you immortality
@jonny-not-so-bravo617
10 ай бұрын
This needs more support, we can't let another Level/Rank 10 deck fall behind!
@dudebladeX
10 ай бұрын
I looked at Tainted and thought "Oh. So it taints the monster it flipped face-down to emerge. Which is why it's 'tainted'." I wasn't thinking of… That weird, though admittedly humorous tangent.
@lunerblade13
10 ай бұрын
4:51 if you flipped greedily and deep you would have gone full Saruman.
@TheWcasey
10 ай бұрын
Become as Crystal.
@walterlopez5054
10 ай бұрын
This deck needs more Pizza Rolls.
@fenrisnox5766
10 ай бұрын
Given how the next core set tcg exclusive is being hyped as a pyro archetype, I wonder if maybe it could be in opposition to the Tistina in both lore and mechanics
@scary-sounds
10 ай бұрын
So what where as tistina is an encroaching corruption on others this pyro archetype will be a purifying fire that cleanses the corruption
@qwertystop
6 ай бұрын
Hm. Maybe with Ninja? They have some get-opponents-facedown stuff.
@gloomba3312
10 ай бұрын
okay so I've actually had some decent success with this deck. Admittedly before the AGOV support, but frankly the AGOV support is just a very specific OTK line that we didn't need because Liebe exists. They could've at least let its name become Crystal God while on the field so as to make it easier to use Demigod, that would've done way more for the deck. I topped a tournament by splashing this with Raidraptor Lunalights of all things. Set Serenade Dance or Perfume, pop it with Sentinel and you get both engines firing at the same time, and with the way the Wise Strix line generates so many monsters on field, you have plenty of tribute fodder for Crystal God with enough left over for some Apollousa and CDI shenanigans. Also Eldlich works great with Tistina. Sentinel sending set Eldlich cards to grave for their search effects, while Eldlich itself provides another body for either tributing or overlaying for a train.
@darkolos5836
10 ай бұрын
I know this deck isnt good, but I hightly recommend trying it out. Its really cheap and having a 1-card combo into OTK is really funny. I tested it at my locals multiple times already and its funny when your opponent suddenly realizes he lost :D
@beast11369
10 ай бұрын
I took Tistina to my local two days ago, I didn't top but I technically didn't lose a single match. Score was X-0-2.
@ChrisCrazyMania
7 ай бұрын
Don't care if it sucks, the art is pretty nd I love beautiful body horror. I've already made a deck.
@fabianbeteta5795
10 ай бұрын
GoldenNovaYugioh there is another tech that is very helpful in the deck Tokusano Shinkyojin because it helps with the draw power using monsters equal to level 10 in hand or field and it helps avoid bricking.
@sharkplay1261
10 ай бұрын
Love this card I run it in my Egyptian god deck
@fabianbeteta5795
10 ай бұрын
@@sharkplay1261 not bad
@sharkplay1261
10 ай бұрын
@@fabianbeteta5795 the Tistina trap monster is also helpful as you can summon Egyptian god slime with it
@fabianbeteta5795
10 ай бұрын
@sharkplay1261 good to know
@sharkplay1261
10 ай бұрын
@fabianbeteta5795 if you plan on running a Egyptian god deck I suggest the Tistina trap×1, reflect slime×1 since its searchable, Egyptian god slime×2 the god tribute quickplay spellx2 and a waking the dragon plus what tokusano to add consistency
@RedMage4evah
10 ай бұрын
Tainted of the Tistina is just because it's in the midst of corrupting the opponent's monster you tributed. IIt's in that middle phase where it's tainted from both points of view. Not assimilated enough for the Tistina. And slowly losing itself for the opponent.
@sharkplay1261
10 ай бұрын
This is what I thought aswell
@oscarpine7145
10 ай бұрын
Considering the field spell has the words divine domain in it, can you call out Domain Expansion when playing it?
@uzumakikazu
10 ай бұрын
I still can't believe that Demigod can be ashed to stop it's special summon. That's both hilarious and depressing.
@billman__1010
10 ай бұрын
While I tried my damnedest to make the arch itself playable, I was very impressed by its lore. In fact, I even used the archetype itself as the basis for a whole story arc in a completely different roleplay server with some…equally interesting results! It’s a shame its hype-as-fuck lore failed to convert in playability.
@Hcheeza
8 ай бұрын
This deck works very well with Tearlaments monsters, but the end boards seems lacking and you'll be kinda passive during ur opponent's turn, For me Labrynth is way better
@invertfriend
10 ай бұрын
Tistina are actually not even bad, the main issue is going first and consistency.
@Terradragoon
10 ай бұрын
It's an otk archetype. A very poor one since most of the pieces don't extend on top of creating the conditions, but one allows a monster to attack directly if the opponent has face-down defense position monsters (the ghostrick clause if you will) and another gives a monster 2 attacks in exchange for only letting 1 monster attack this turn. Pair that with the xyz that can double its attack to 4k and unless the opponent has a cheeky set that isn't removed by god into xyz that's gg
@GXrst64tlc
10 ай бұрын
Tistina has too many similarities to ORT from Fate.
@neves783001
10 ай бұрын
A less broken ORT, thankfully. The real ORT basically is a walking Kashtira deck.
@GXrst64tlc
10 ай бұрын
@@neves783001 Oh dear god no. The thing I hate about what you said is that you're not wrong.
@alexrogall4543
10 ай бұрын
I wanna play these and i still dont get them
@pedroflores9167
10 ай бұрын
Face down cards = darkness?
@neogalactic1195
10 ай бұрын
Complicated is a nice way of saying garbage
@elvenatheart982
10 ай бұрын
Someone pl3ase explain to me why an entire archetype would be exclusive to TCG? I mean Kinami, a Japanese company, doesnt want a product they make to be played in their home region (I think Japan plays only OCG RIGHT?))) I also dont know why the whole OCG vs TCG exists as a whole
@natsu330
10 ай бұрын
What if you run ojama trip with it?
@aridehunter8516
10 ай бұрын
One of the cooler looking archetypes in the franchise RUINED BY THE TCG AGAIN DAMN YOU
@Haobeanies
10 ай бұрын
Day 3 of asking for aromage explained
@renaldyhaen
10 ай бұрын
TCG purposely make a "bad" deck. Then, OCG can fix it when it released there.
@SelfReassuringTitle
6 ай бұрын
Whole deck is like $15 though.
@neilkirby6160
10 ай бұрын
So is this just not worth investing any thought to? I love the flavor of cosmic crystal horrors but the practicality is a letdown.
@cliffkrahenbill5971
10 ай бұрын
Hoping they’ll they’ll be Adamaninciptor support? Glad they flop😂
@23gameoverlord
10 ай бұрын
I think aside from it's boss artwork....this is a bad archetype. It's just so scattered and unfocused, and SO limited in 1 strategy that other archetypes can run circles around it.
@Sokaras3
10 ай бұрын
Building their deck. Was suprised how little Aqua type support there is out there
@bakabunny788
10 ай бұрын
there is even less generic WIND support.
@Sokaras3
10 ай бұрын
@@bakabunny788 oh interesting. as for Aqua i was mainly suprised because there is ton of water support
@RenlinkMorales
10 ай бұрын
another discontinued custom cards that got approved tcg. tcg sure makes weird custom cards and discontinue it and make a different archetype with complicated broken effects
@losimeek5193
10 ай бұрын
First, also love your stuff
@bourahlayahia6333
10 ай бұрын
Guys FREE PALESTINE 🇵🇸
@streetgamer3452
10 ай бұрын
I hate this archetype. It’s weak as hell especially as a follow up from gold pride and it’s aesthetic is just adamancipators without any of the flair and it feels all over the place with the names coinciding with the lore
@spyro2002
10 ай бұрын
I'll be honest I don't get what so bad about this deck. All the explanations I've heard are just blabbering buzz words. It looks alright to me.
@gloomba3312
10 ай бұрын
It had the makings of a decent control deck on initial release, combining the effects of Crystal God and Demigod to force the opponent to keep their entire field facedown, with Sentinel and Hound being repeatable combo extension if need be. Their main problem was their reliance on Crystal God to do anything, but they showed initial promise. Then the AGOV support released and it... went in a completely different direction which solved none of the problems it had, that basically ignored their potential as a control deck and geared towards a very specific OTK line that requires your opponent to have a very specific field setup, which not only fails to play through any interuption the opponent might have, but was never necessary because for the same or less effort you can just make Juggernaught Liebe for largely the same result. The hate they get is still undeserved though and the deck can still make some fun and interesting plays.
@AthosZ92
10 ай бұрын
This strategy is so boring.
@Animusfortemorty
10 ай бұрын
This deck is the last push that got me out Yugi. Really hyped at first, good mechanic and at first it seemed a semi-control/aggro deck with a mechanic to disrupt boards but... Let's say that i'm collecting and out of yugi thanks to another joke of konami to TCG players
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