thanks for the shoutout! i appreciate it and this is definitely a cool video concept 👍
@harshdeepsingh4612
Жыл бұрын
Really love your stuff especially your ayaka and nilou stuff helped me alot
@adityasangeeth4255
Жыл бұрын
Should have said balls in the last
@imadaga69420
Жыл бұрын
Never though I'd see you get mentioned by zaj
@nanathedelta8561
Жыл бұрын
This is the same Jamie on KQM, right ? 😅
@hmmmtao6911
Жыл бұрын
@@nanathedelta8561 yes that's him
@seang7578
Жыл бұрын
I honestly keep forgetting to do Abyss and I’m convinced that it’s just a subconscious self defense mechanism to keep me from losing my sanity
@mattgriffin0231
Жыл бұрын
I 36 starred the first time, but I honestly just refuse to do it again. I don't have two full teams that can clear on the first try and I'm not going to spend the time to do the entire thing again.
@certainperson
Жыл бұрын
@@mattgriffin0231 What teams did you use the first time?
@DokaHabbo
Жыл бұрын
@@mattgriffin0231 you can try getting 3 stars on specific chamber,, on diff days, for example day 5 for chamber 1 , day 10 for chamber 10 and day 13 for chamber 2, with diff teamcomps, that way it wouldnt be like youre forced to do it all in one go (one try) and one day. this is a grinding game rmb
@Jugbot
Жыл бұрын
I mean if they just added some qol features it wouldn't be so bad but yeah I don't replay abyss for more stars because it's a pain.
@SmartyPoohBear
Жыл бұрын
Missing out on easy 33 stars, though.
@jucovipicapiedra5124
Жыл бұрын
Hoyoverse: The abyss is too stressful for the players. Also Hoyoverse: *Adds the fucking Wenut into the abyss*
@wilhammartins9898
Жыл бұрын
And that's the sole reason I'm gonna play wuthering waves for a week before touching Genshin again.
@Maeda_Toshiie
Жыл бұрын
That interview was a complete joke.
@LizardKingRequiem
Жыл бұрын
Yeah they love to talk out of their ass its crazy
@Chestyfriend
Жыл бұрын
Players: We want more difficult content! HYV: Okay, we made abyss more difficult. Players: Noooo why is it more difficult!?
@LizardKingRequiem
Жыл бұрын
@@Chestyfriend abyss is the ONLY CONTENT, dont even try it
@FelisSolos
Жыл бұрын
they seriously need to stop putting these bosses that keep going underground,its not even difficult its just straight up annoying 😭
@gericjohnm.olivar9563
Жыл бұрын
It also makes no sense going underground on a literal marble room😂
@yae_123
Жыл бұрын
Pull for yae, super easy with her
@Link-kr2bc
Жыл бұрын
@@yae_123ah yes lemme just pull yae rn and built her before the abyss resets again
@gericjohnm.olivar9563
Жыл бұрын
@@oh-noe difficulty isn't the issue. It's the stupid system of breaking something (shields, hit elements/stuff to stun enemies, etc) Tbf, today's abyss really has the highest HP pool in history (floor 12)
@yankeng2896
Жыл бұрын
@@gericjohnm.olivar9563 Cant deny the enemy mechanic are annoying, but It only make sense that the hp pool is only going to get higher and higher with more mechanic available to player to provide adequate challenge
@mitreagameplays1667
Жыл бұрын
"Can we have more endgame combat content?" "No" "Ok but can abyss at least be fun?" "No"
@thorizon2187
Жыл бұрын
*angry fish stare and walks away*
@lennihein
Жыл бұрын
I was genuinely excited for the reset, to battle Wenut again. That's how starved we are for content.... That I was excited to do Wenut AGAIN. After a couple tries I managed it with 7:00 on the clock, but man, what a horrible chamber 12-3-2nd is.
@undeniablySomeGuy
Жыл бұрын
i am genuinely starting to think hoyo doesn't want players like us to keep playing.
@LizardKingRequiem
Жыл бұрын
Tea
@OktavianusCelestialine
Жыл бұрын
Abyss is also like Gacha, sometimes it can be fun, sometimes it can be annoying.
@Commando23414221998
Жыл бұрын
The animation at the start with the mob placements for each floor is so good! Credit to whoever formulated it.
@aksel9294
Жыл бұрын
true that was a nice addition
@undeniablySomeGuy
Жыл бұрын
zajeff channel visuals are so clean
@nandha-one9819
Жыл бұрын
@@undeniablySomeGuy yeah right, that was super clean.
@gmacdonalddc
Жыл бұрын
I don't know if you read these, but a "Conclusion" section with a clear "these are the best couple teams" would be great. The current format of vid feels kinda open-ended and breezy "just do whatever, anything works" -- I get the massive audience you're speaking to with various availability of options, but for example, the hierarchy of Best Weapons you do for character breakdowns is one of the most helpful things about those vids. Something similar would be great here. Thanks again for the vids, love the content!
@nothing3887
Жыл бұрын
He would be bad at doing that since his biases will come into play regarding the “best teams”. Therefore this is the best form to leave it at.
@tyl3rni
Жыл бұрын
WOAAH THE EDITING IS SO GOOD
@ellosteve
Жыл бұрын
REALL
@ptm_tobi
Жыл бұрын
0:40 this concept with showing the actual abyss floor in 3d with the enemies in the right spot is extremely cool, thanks editor-san :D
@malcolmlee7875
Жыл бұрын
For the first time in like a year I tried doing Abysss again and I got to Floor 12 pretty easily and then remembered why I’ve only once ever gotten to 12-3💀
@diogoschneider2479
Жыл бұрын
Never thought I would want the ruin serpent back 💀💀
@justsomeguywithahandlebarm2456
Жыл бұрын
Nah that shit was much worse
@julianrossreyes8966
Жыл бұрын
Hoyo: Oh so you want all of them back ok, **next abyss with golden wolflord, wenut, and ruin serpent**
@manfredstorm7599
Жыл бұрын
@@julianrossreyes8966 wait and see they put 2 different abyss herald/lectors plus the wolf lord in same side of the abyss
@jaei6680
Жыл бұрын
I'd take wenut over any of the other Serpent Time-Wasters.
@diogoschneider2479
Жыл бұрын
@@jaei6680 but the others have considerably higher times to do damage, the wolflord needs a geo and the ruin serpent has some RNG in the spinning phase. Also they don't have huge resistances (that 90 anemo resistance is so absurd 💀)
@lukio3935
Жыл бұрын
I'm a 1.0 player and this abyss made me really glad I've started investing vertically into my units. this abyss would've been such a pain in the ass otherwise
@crt137
Жыл бұрын
to leave a serious comment, great video! Love seeing Sucrose being used - I can confirm she is amazing in National. To comment on Ganyu Freeze, she can clear Wenut with VV support relatively comfortably (her Burst gets max damage when it goes down because of the massive hitbox) but it is true Freeze does absolutely nothing for her. As for mono-Cryo, she does not have many mono-Cryo options besides being used alongside Shenhe and Ayaka which is a pretty F2P unfriendly team.
@RuneKatashima
Жыл бұрын
Sucrose as a Hyperbloom driver is amazing.
@よしみ-x5j
Жыл бұрын
Thank you for the point about Ganyu. She is great for Wenut, Zajef made a small fail here. Maybe thinking about how freeze is useless, dunno, but what he said is just wrong. And yup, Sucrose is great!
@jdayyy8003
Жыл бұрын
Yeah, was about to comment on that as well. Ayaka and Ganyu teams are really good with Wenut. Chipping damage with Es and CAs while the worm is stalling.
@Mehieddin7
Жыл бұрын
"love seeing sucrose being used" sucrose being as good and even better than a c0 kazuha in most situations at the cost of being harder to play:
@joeyisabsb1
Жыл бұрын
ive always liked when I can hear the players buttons frantically clicking
@AnserStar
Жыл бұрын
hey, just wanted to say i really appreciate the work you do for the community zaj c: keep it up
@rubykeys8418
Жыл бұрын
I enjoy seeing this type of content. This is the first abyss I don’t bother 36 star because of the wenut.
@marcheluis
Жыл бұрын
I found out that Melt Ganyu with Nahida makes beating the Wenut in time a lot more comfortable, mostly because you can just pelt it from range and can keep the burning going fairly easily. First half I just went for Hu Tao + Double Hydro.
@RuneKatashima
Жыл бұрын
Another weird thing about Wenut hitbox is when I used Yoimiya to gun it down, she'd fire at his tail but Rain Sword and Rain Arrows would fire at it's head-ish. Probably fucked up my vapes cause I stood right next to it's tail.
@zadokutah2315
Жыл бұрын
Also happened to Hu Tao and Diluc. Everytime that abomination weakened, My character always get pushed next to its tail or body, regardless where they are before the thing fell. Truly peak enemy design from Hoyo
@APcGamer
Жыл бұрын
If I were to summarize my opinions on this abyss, I can just say: "the developers don't play their own fucking game"
@999noheart
Жыл бұрын
this also explains the disconnect between some characters' supposed roles and their kits
@APcGamer
Жыл бұрын
@@999noheart exactly, like for example: this abyss is supposed to "advertise" Dehya, but literally the first chamber punishes you for not using shields
@999noheart
Жыл бұрын
@@APcGamer feels like they think their game is played as 'i have hu tao on my party for when childe is on cooldown'
@mistflower5945
Жыл бұрын
I recently got Shenhe, and you'd best believe I tried so hard t make my Ganyu and Ayaka freeze teams work in the 2nd half. It was painful, I lost years of my life and needed Prototype Amber Mona, but I did it and I feel vindicated.
@whoareu9079
Жыл бұрын
Mono cryo ayaka with shenhe, diona and anemo character with vv it beats wenut quite easy
@よしみ-x5j
Жыл бұрын
Ganyu is great for Wenut and one of the best choices. Zajef either thought just about freeze mechanic, or dunno...
@SSP50505
Жыл бұрын
I don't even need advice on this cycle but I just like watching your videos, Mr. Zachef. Perfect mix of knowledge, tips, laughter, interesting ideas and more.
@gamestory2834
Жыл бұрын
Zajeff was proven wrong on wenut, as players has already beaten it with the basic f2p nilou team (no key Nilou-DMC-Collei-Barbara). You do need to be good though. That part is right, and you need a good first part run. Look up Dubstep gun's runs.
@Jockey107
Жыл бұрын
This abyss in particular needs to give people a guaranteed 5-star standard character/weapon after completion
@baguette_connoisseur
Жыл бұрын
Tell me you are joking please.
@youraveragedude6356
Жыл бұрын
Reading these comments make me realise how much my account has changed over the year. I used to hate people (like me rn) that say "I cleared floor 12 without an issue what's so bad about it". Nowadays I usually do one or two abyss runs everyday, even speedran bottom half with 3.5/4 cost internat. Currently trying to get a good time with 5 cost Ayaka. Trust me, it gets easier. You could always try pulling for more damage if you're struggling.
@Jockey107
Жыл бұрын
@@youraveragedude6356 I've already 9-starred it. It's just really annoying, is all
@Mehieddin7
Жыл бұрын
why would u want one when 4* alternatives are mostly better
@proroms6668
Жыл бұрын
More videos of this pleaseeeee. More Power Zachef!!
@kagakai7729
Жыл бұрын
Funnily enough, the whales had an ESPECIALLY great time on this abyss- I believe the C6 R5 Raiden mains figured out in the first 8 seconds of the abyss going live that the Wenut's weird hitbox meant you could absolutely _cheese_ Raiden dragonstrikes to kill it in like 7 seconds.
@Raudent
Жыл бұрын
huh
@Junaed6666
Жыл бұрын
That’s where you are wrong. Whales don’t know how to do dragonstrike. They know how to swipe tho.
@kagakai7729
Жыл бұрын
@@Junaed6666 They know how to do it, they just don't bother because why would you waste time trying to line up a heavily hitlag/RNG dependent gimmick that only really benefits a scuffed character like Diluc when all your units can fight god lmao
@joeyisabsb1
Жыл бұрын
whales with c6 r5 units dont think that way at all, in fact they don't think. Its always going to be an easy 36* without the cheese and with little effort.
@kagakai7729
Жыл бұрын
@@joeyisabsb1 except whales don't care about the 36 star. They're not in it for 600 primogems every 2 weeks. Why would they be? The goal of whales has always been speedrunning- to clear the entirety of spiral abyss in under a minute, for example.
@kurapikakuruta698
Жыл бұрын
i am a free to play with not big investment on Nilou and I still could 9-star floor 12 using Nilou bloom and Raiden national my raiden team was first side and my Nilou team was in the second side
@SaniOkMEDVED
Жыл бұрын
This type of content is really good and useful. I'd be happy if you to do it every time new abyss lineup drops!
@vincikeeper1581
Жыл бұрын
I'm a casual player, who easily pass 9-11 floors, don't even bother or want to pass (only when I'm bored) 12 floor, it isn't worth my nerves and stress, I want to relax, enjoy the game and have fun.
@maxcarter50
Жыл бұрын
I was pretty proud of managing to 100s clear the Wenut with my Alhaitham, Yelan, Nahida, Kuki team. Was easier last week coz I steamrolled side 1 with Raiden National and had more time for side 2, but this time I tried to force mono-geo instead... and my mono geo output is subpar coz no redhorn. Took me a while to get the perfect rotation off. That 8 second window on Wenut is rough.
@d3m3nt3d_t3acup_
Жыл бұрын
My fastest wenut clear with the same alhaitham clear was around 70 seconds, but it took a lot of resets to figure out, and even then I haven't been able to replicate the time in subsequent runs
@titaochen5249
Жыл бұрын
Holy editing, the quality of these just keeps improving.
@skypianoprogression1942
Жыл бұрын
Thanks to chef Zajef I cleared this abyss: DMC Xingiu Raiden Bennet in first half (Oven i guess?) and Nahida, Yae Miko, Kuki and Alhaitam with Harbinger of dawn on second half, thanks for the recipes chef
@jyusatsu
Жыл бұрын
Yeah I struggled with this abyss since I main mono geo, Ayato and Alhaitham and I don't have a built pyro dps. What I did is I finally built Xiangling and slapped EL with Raiden's mid Emblem set to her and used her with my Itto team for 1st half to break those cryo shielders. For 2nd half, I tried Ayato, burnmelt Ganyu but I fail miserably to 3 star wenut so I brute forced it with my Alhaitham quickbloom team and did a lot of retries to get it coz I fvck up. It was frustrating but finally getting 36 star is satisfying.
@Apoc500
Жыл бұрын
Yeah, my Geo and Yoi teams aren't suited to this abyss and I really struggled to get that 36th star. I also had to actually level Xiangling and Heizo talents to get a 12-1-1 clear faster than 50s.
@moderatelysavage4071
Жыл бұрын
This kind of video is great! I always 36 star clear, but getting a deep dive into combs is super interesting. The graphic showing enemy position was nice. Good job
@N0XEL
Жыл бұрын
Wenut is really the only thing that makes me dislike this abyss, my best runs with good luck at best take a little over a minute for me but on average its around a mimute and a half which is more than enough for me to clear since i can clear the the first half in 40-50secs easily with wanderer. Honestly much rather what were getting next rotation even though the total hp pool is way higher, the higher hp looks scary but then you remember its aoe and ifyou have proper grouping thr effective total hp is much lower(also no time stalling enemies).
@ardaoguzhan8181
Жыл бұрын
I love how he destroys his keyboard while playing genshin it cracks me up everytime I hear his keyboard
@peterpresto9516
Жыл бұрын
i have 36 starred every abyss until now, and for this one i just left it 33. couldn't care less about it since they decided to make it so hard.
@alatusnms
Жыл бұрын
I love these types of video, very insightful and gives lots of tips on the current abyss and how other teams stand against it. Would love to see more of it in the future. My only problem is that I wished it was released earlier within the abyss cycle, like before it resets because it's so helpful in helping people get their 36*.
@lynca2205
Жыл бұрын
Freeze section was exactly my experience lol. I 3* easy with Rosaria-Kaeya-Kazu in the first two chambers but had to switch them for international for wehnut
@leoniichan1229
Жыл бұрын
There are a few things that I'd like to talk about regarding this abyss. Long article ahead, prepare yourself ehe~ Anyway this abyss is the perfect example of how there are no perfect team for everything. Some people may say some team is good if you play well or invest enough. But the truth is, it is never up to us to decide which team is good, it's up to the developers. That goes for characters as well. For example, abilities that stays at one place and deals dmg. If it gives buff instead of doing dmg it's not as bad, but if it deals dmg, against something that moves around a lot and have very little dmg window, you know how it goes. Other than that, characters with high energy requirement would also be heavily affected by enemy with short dmg window and moves around a lot. Why? Well if the window to deal dmg is already so little, imagine having to make time to generate energy. Regarding the last point some people may say "Well how about just don't use those characters against such enemy?" Fair enough. But you know what I've seen when I discuss about energy hungry unit against wenut? "Well wenut you either one rotate it or it just goes to shit, it doesn't matter if you have enough energy or not". That, is some of the worst take I've ever seen You see, that's the pinnacle of ostrich mindset. "If I pretend I don't see the problem, then the problem doesn't exist!" One guy who I talked to gave me an even better way to explain this mindset: "That's like saying if you can't charge the energy, charge your bank account instead". Bro I can't 💀 Anyway you can try using 160~180% er xiangling (without Raiden shogun) against wenut, and you'll see what I mean. I suggest people to not trust too much on those on paper theory, data etc. Because those "optimized calculations" are only truly optimized when your play is also optimized. Which let's be real, most of us aren't. When you look at the calculation people pulled out, you have to factor in your own play as well. If you are the ultra instinct type of player who'd never take dmg, never make any mistake, why are you even playing this shit game, go play league or something lmao. Yeah, if you died you can always reset. But let's be real, for most people even if they do have the time, they wouldn't bother to retry at all. They'd rather clear it in one go, if they don't get full star, so be it. Which means, for most players the ceiling isn't the preference, stability is. Because for most people, they don't care how fast they can clear, as long as they can clear it in one try that's a win for them. So when it comes to characters that have high energy requirement, it's better for us normal players with normal skill to have more er than recommended. Because when the developers put you under pressure like this (with wenut) you'd much rather to have more instead of less. As I said just now, for most players stability matters more than ceiling. I know that saying something like don't trust the math too much under a comment section of a channel who mainly does math is kinda.. hehe. But I'm not saying that you shouldn't trust them. What I'm saying is take it with a grain of salt. As I said earlier, you have to factor in your own skill as well. Don't take the math as how it is, pay more attention to in practice and more importantly how you perform. You can only know how applicable the math is to you through doing the abyss yourself. Tldr, characters are only good if they are allowed to. So in reality there isn't anyone who's truly "broken". And do more abyss yourself to find out if the calculation from theorycrafters are applicable to you. Man I was gonna talk about how much destruction the wenut have caused in abyss but then I remembered the dumb take about energy and the discussion went off rail 💀 Mb
@imrane161
Жыл бұрын
I just use ayaka freeze team. I can't 1 round it but she clears it on time. ( if i use bennet or mona than i can 1 round it) My ayaka has barely any er 120 or something. But ye i can use freeze basically every abyss cycle A team that can handle almost any situation is ayaka, kazuha, ganyu and kokomi. I use dps ganyu as support. Yes event characters but they allmost all are interchangeable. Don't have kazuha or kokomi use jean 2 slots 1. Don't have jean use any anemo with vv add diona Don't have diona then rosaria or mika. If u have a healer already on the team then use mona/xingqui if not use barbara. I like wenut more than that ruin serpent or wolflord. Those guys gimicks succ. With wenut u can use plenty of things to down him. Ganyu ult, elemental bow charged attack. Mona ult, swirl and more lisa skill works and her ult might 2. U know exactly when he goes down and can prepare for it. I think(?) u can even use bennet ult with beidou skill wich causes overload. When wenut starts his going down phase that's when u prepare your supports. When he actually goes down is when u do dmg. The only way freeze won't be good is if they actually target cryo in abyss. By having cryo immune on both sides. (Btw i even took that ayaka team to those cryo maguu kenki) so even cryo resistance it's able to handle thanks to vv, thrilling tales and bonus cryo dmg. It makes it alot harder tho.
@xkyoshi11
Жыл бұрын
And this, my friends, is why International is arguably the best team in the game. Destroys every chamber.
@rudy2538
Жыл бұрын
International would disagree
@Oliiver003
Жыл бұрын
@@xkyoshi11 International is just ok for Single target and is only relevant for f2p. I wouldnt call that "the best team in the game lul"
@xkyoshi11
Жыл бұрын
@@Oliiver003 Disagreed. International has top tier DPR and scales well with Kazuha's C2. At Whale levels of investment, it's obviously not the best because Childe's constellations are ass. Also, most sheets you see for the team are using the wrong second rotation, extending its rotation time.
@chrisgonzales5335
Жыл бұрын
for the wenut I actually played a scuffed hyperbloom team against it, EM raiden, xq, yao yao and alhaitham. I basically used spread during the wenuts first three attacks and then saved xq's burst once the wenut rises
@christianmoraes7206
Жыл бұрын
Yes pls keep doing these videos! Side note, do u plan on doing ask zajef nilou? I noticed the community posts only had nahida so I was wondering if u just plan on covering her there
@NexusGamerss
Жыл бұрын
I think the perfect characters for this Abyss are Ayato, Nahida and Kuki, since they don't rely on bursts to do HB, you always will be dealing damage on the Nope noodle windows
@Vladoominator
Жыл бұрын
Don't forget Yae
@gilney.mathias
Жыл бұрын
Thats the team i want to do, i just need Nahida + Kuki next banner 😭
@blazn0
Жыл бұрын
I used kazuha, dmc, nahida and yae on second side. Pretty easy with that team.
@nphirea3172
Жыл бұрын
Also, a shenhe buffed ayaka unloads quills enough to poke it.
@itaohs5551
Жыл бұрын
Mihoyo really did just say "buff setek wenut for abyss" and ran with it. Crackheads the lot of them.
@disonalvan
Жыл бұрын
as a new player it's really fun learning about all these different teams
@ishleyro5457
Жыл бұрын
I definitely appreciate these videos, especially when you give tips on things like grouping without the aid of anemo supports, spawn locations of enemies, boss patterns, bugs or recent bug fixes, etc All of that extra stuff is extremely helpful and is particularly helpful toward overcoming my ancient ps4+hick internet handicap (enemies tend to spawn about 6-8 seconds late, per wave)
@superzzo6765
Жыл бұрын
the abyss(domain) preview mockup is pretty cool
@leech1806
Жыл бұрын
I don't know if this is solely a Wenut issue, but apparently Ayaka's Elemental Skill whiffs sometimes even when I'm right beside it (I can see the snowflake visual effect touch it). I thought at first that it was just a visual bug that didn't show my damage, but through multiple trials I can confirm that it doesn't hit at all because of the absence of particles generated by the skill on hit. Anybody else experiencing this?
@sev559
Жыл бұрын
Done alot of Ayaka runs on it and haven't experienced this I'm afraid
@anagramhound
Жыл бұрын
That's weird, cuz even with 160 ping my Ayaka never encountered this bug with the Wenut.
@leech1806
Жыл бұрын
Thing is, this was happening to me at 75-90ms. I only noticed it because of the inconsistency of burst availability in my runs even with relatively uniform rotations; some runs I didn't have Ayaka's burst up even with consistent Fav procs. It wasn't happening in the overworld Wenut, but the Abyss one I was just whiffing my skill every so often.
@thiratw9057
Жыл бұрын
thanks for the useful info. big fan of meta round up , hope to see more in the future ! cheers
@NightmareQueen
Жыл бұрын
After destroying this abyss with melt Ganyu so many times I decided to whip out my dusty old Ayaka to see how she fares against it, since this abyss was designed to sell her banner. My god she sucked against the Wenut. Once again Ganyu proves why she's the best hypercarry in the game, there isn't a single abyss where she isn't one of the best options (and straight up THE best option when freeze works on all 3 chambers.)
@kalaaw
Жыл бұрын
"The enemies are a lot less cringe than Wenut" is all I need to know for the next abyss. Finally can 36 stars again.
@bingotries
Жыл бұрын
these videos are so helpful, i build like all my characters but i can never figure out what teams to play, learning where all the archetypes are good has been so helpful
@Aeondrew-
Жыл бұрын
Really enjoyed this video and the tips on enemy placement grouping were nice! Sucks that the Wenut is bugged against Fischl A4. Hopefully that gets fixed and hopefully this is the last we see of it in Abyss. Fun fact: The Golden Wolflord and Ruin Serpent both have only 100% increased HP instead of the 150% that is normal for Abyss Floor 12, probably because they're unreachable for so much of the fight. For whatever reason, it doesn't look like they did this with the Wenut despite the Wenut needing it just as much. (For what it's worth I feel like the Ruin Serpent and Golden Wolflord have longer invulnerability windows, but the Wenut has its increased RES so I definitely still think it needed less HP) I actually managed to beat it with a Ganyu Freeze team by using Ganyu/Mona/Shenhe/Anemo Traveler (yes I'm a Traveler main lol). Mona's a good compromise if you want Freeze for the first two chambers but still need to be able to deal with the Wenut, since her Burst provides good support even without Freeze and takes advantage of the Wenut's stun window well. Ganyu's Burst actually does pretty well against the Wenut since its hitbox is so large, so you get more damage than you'd expect in a single-target situation. Also as a Traveler main might have to give EMC Overburgeon a try 👀
@kismeteors
Жыл бұрын
i like such videos!! appreciate the breakdown of every team and how it performs in each chamber. pls keep making more of them! :D
@alistair2654
Жыл бұрын
Love this kind of content! It's cool to see breakdowns of abyss floor cause usually CCs only do units breakdowns but never really go in depth on the playing field and how do u suppose to use the units adapting to the current abysses and what not
@mastercc4509
Жыл бұрын
Havent played in six months but if they let us do all the abyss cycles weve missed I would consider coming back. I wouldnt mind the challenge but I cant be bothered with the mindless dailies.
@MrKadirbey
Жыл бұрын
I mean you don’t have to do the dailies
@sophialopez128
Жыл бұрын
Tbh I usually clear the abyss on the first day/week with my Childe and AlHaitham teams, but I still enjoy listening to you just talk about stuff. It's nice ^^ Also, I get to have those "So that's how you actually do it" moments, which is also nice.
@_DIFH_
Жыл бұрын
I enjoy these. Beyond specific what I pull for, so it's a way to learn stuff via osmosis. Please continue these. As I strictly only use two teams that aren't great, Noelle and Dori, and have to rely on investment and comfort to 36, this was definitely the least enjoyable 12 since that Herald spam from the start of Inazuma. Shield floors, solo Kenki invulns, Wenut being itself+Hoyo roids. Even though next 12 requires a bow, it's nothing compared to this.
@Caron_2
Жыл бұрын
If it helps anyone, the team I used to clear this abyss' 3rd chamber with ~30 seconds to spare is a Kazuha national team (C6 all the 4*, well invested XL & XQ) on the first half and my C2 Yelan with C1 Hu Tao, Zhongli (I know, I'm crazy but it still worked in the 2nd chamber) and C6 Fischl after already having gotten 3* in the other chambers with Melt Ganyu on the top and double Hydro hyperbloom on the bottom and just barely falling short of 3* in chamber 3. TL;DR: I went full single target with a short burst-y window of dps on the second half and lots of Pyro damage on the first and it worked somehow.
@Equimage_
Жыл бұрын
Waaaiiiit i really like the intro animation. I know you use different ones per video but I wouldn't mind if this one was the most commonly used one.
@Richinnameonly
Жыл бұрын
If anyone is interested aggravate is how I beat the wenut. A team I call aggravated assault, (nahida, tignari, raiden, and kuki.) You use Raiden and tignari for those small damage windows. Kuki's burst should be saved for instantly dropping the wenuts weak spots.
@coledorillo6685
Жыл бұрын
I gotta thank my homies on my hyperbloom team for making the second side easy. I didn't realize people struggled with it but Nahida hyperbloom goes brrrr
@melly__.
Жыл бұрын
What were your teams for... No reason 📝
@coledorillo6685
Жыл бұрын
@@melly__. nahida, yae, kuki, yelan/XQ
@melly__.
Жыл бұрын
@@coledorillo6685 omg I didn't even think about using yae 🤦tysm
@alek4001
Жыл бұрын
Got 36* using Child, Xiangling, Bennet, Sucrose first half and Raiden (emblem), Nahida(EM), Xingqiu(no EM), Kuki(really poor EM/crit build). The key thing is that the first half of the 3rd floor is really easy for vape teams, and you have around 2-20 for the second half. Hyperbloom is very helpfull because it hits the worm wherever it appears. Raiden E is also convinient to get the thing down
@elknolasshrineofraja3966
Жыл бұрын
🌸😹It could be uttered that “I have whaled to such an extent upon Genshin”, of boredom could all Abyss be claimed.😹🌸
@twink4christ
Жыл бұрын
OMGG I HAVENT SEEN U IN AGES MOTHER IS BACK
@skinnylegend1542
Жыл бұрын
@@twink4christ she's mothering so hard
@bobhamburger
Жыл бұрын
👏 M. O. T. H. E. R. 👏
@blubblubblup
Жыл бұрын
MOMMY
@twink4christ
Жыл бұрын
@@blubblubblup u had to ruin it.
@venmalass757
Жыл бұрын
Alhaitham Yae Miko Nahida and r5 sac Kokomi feel extremely comfy against wenut so I never struggled this cycle but I also do recognize that this is not a team easily accessible to most f2p players
@ryujinkurogami1683
Жыл бұрын
Funnily enough, there are some 40s-ish speedruns of Wenut using Eula at low constellations (down to C0, actually) posted on bilibili. Some of them are shared in EulaMains, too. The goal is basically to battery the hell out of Eula so she can get her burst back up twice before the thing can even start its flight phase. I've done my own run on it, but others have done it with lower constellations (lowest cons is C0 at 42s, iirc).
@loukas9442
Жыл бұрын
I stopped at 12-2, I didn’t even want to try. I just wanted to save myself from chasing the annoying boss around and losing my sanity.
@uwiki2426
Жыл бұрын
Honestly these videos are great, they slightly reduce my suffering when im clearing
@azka7495
Жыл бұрын
Yeah I like to see this kind of content. Like ❤ also my only issue with this abyss is this stupid worm. I tried several teams but still missed the last star. I actually gave up hhhh. Wish I had time but it’s the end of the semester. I might try the teams u used After the abyss reset I used: Zhong Ayato Benny Xiangling Al haitham Koki nahida yae I got 35* Before I used several teams but still missed the last star
@poyax.
Жыл бұрын
I actually appreciate WeNut in this current Spiral Abyss. I don't have Nahida and I always use Fischl/YaoYao/Dendro MC in my Alhaitham, Xingqiu, Kuki Hyperbloom team. I always failed to 36 stars this current abyss with that team. But when I swapped in Collei, it all of a sudden became a breeze and quite easy to 36 stars it. I realized that I really needed a 2nd Dendro character who applies dendro fast for the Alhaitham Hyperbloom team and Collei is one of the better Dendro applier next to Nahida. She applies dendro faster compared to Yaoyao and Dendro MC. Xingqiu can apply hydro fast thru Alhaitham's normal attacks and hydro swords while Kuki can proc Hyperbloom so fast once every second. Alhaitham can apply dendro fast as well but because of reactions it's still not enough so another quick dendro applier is great. If enemies are easy enough then Alhaitham, Xingqiu, Kuki is enough. But enemies like WeNut exposes not only how good you are with your rotations but it also exposes how good your team actually is. Alhaitham, Collei (Nahida), Xingqiu, Kuki is a very very strong team. Minmaxing my team comps is really important for me because I have a really bad ping, 360ms.
@RuneKatashima
Жыл бұрын
Second Half Ganyu BurnMelt. Destroys Hydro heralds and Wenut.
@blade5_c185
Жыл бұрын
For the part where the entire bloodline of water creatures try to end your hole career, I used melt Ganyu. I decided to use bennett, Ganyu, xiangling and lastly...... Albedo! Turns out, the elevator is VERY useful. And the bonus em that he provides? Huh, icing on the cake.
@anagramhound
Жыл бұрын
Cleared with Rational 1st half + Ayaka Shenhe Freeze 2nd half all the way from 9f to 12f without changing team once. I might have starting to like Wenut fight, or this current abyss in general lol.
@felipeandrade3880
Жыл бұрын
This is the worst abyss by far, i just have two possible teams bennet+xianglin and tighnari spread, it is sad that i have most of the characters and most of them is useless 1 half - chongyun + xianglin + bennet + shenhe 2 half - tighnari + nahida + yae miko + kuki
@ryzhik9608
Жыл бұрын
W for using Chongyun!
@ferend4038
Жыл бұрын
Actually I like this abyss cs It actually need my one year of farming this f-ing game and diversifying my teams. I mean we all complained abt no endgame, so here it is😅
@mokiiiiiiii
Жыл бұрын
Genshin players when the abyss is actually a dps check:
@wilburforce8046
Жыл бұрын
Something Zajef forgets with Nilou is that you can clear Weknut much faster if you just run Nahida C0 driver with Xingqiu and spam seeds for ST. The speedrun video he shows is with an AOE centric Nilou team, but you don’t need AOE Nilou for this abyss you can get away with just driving Nahida bloom. So the investment level needed for Nilou this abyss is a lot lower then Zajef thinks.
@Dubstep_Gun
Жыл бұрын
Beat it with OG Nilou team(Collei/DMC/Barbara). So it's lot lot lot lot lower than Zajef thinks
@jaysenstoudt7610
Жыл бұрын
I was actually able to 36* this Abyss first run with my C3 Dehya mono pyro team (C6 Bennett, C6 Xiang, and C6 Sucrose) on one half and my C6 Yae Miko, C2 Nahida, C0 Kokomi, C0 Kazuha Quickbloom team on the Wenut half. I really expected that I'd have to swap my Dehya team to make up for the slow clear, but I guess that's what consts and Signature Weapons get you.
@Hexqbe
Жыл бұрын
The Spiral Abyss is one of the most effective ways [for] players [to] test out their party composition and combat strength. If we design another type of permanent endgame that is similar to the Spiral Abyss, it might end up creating excessive anxiety for our players - not everyone is interested in Musk Reef.
@Ethos711
Жыл бұрын
I had really good luck this rotation with Childe, Xiangling, Bennett, Sucrose* first half and Nahida, Kuki, Yelan, Xingqui for second half. *(I replaced Sucrose with Zhongli the second time through and it was super smooth. Like one try, smooth.)
@AegisZero
Жыл бұрын
I haven't tried 2nd team for the second half because of the double hydro abyss.
@Ethos711
Жыл бұрын
@AegisZero00 Nahida can handle them rather easily. Dendro is extra effective against the hydro shield, so they go down pretty fast.
@AegisZero
Жыл бұрын
@@Ethos711 thank you. I now have full stars on this abyss. lol
@-Arkin
Жыл бұрын
THE EDITOR NEEDS A RAISE
@reeo2874
Жыл бұрын
I like this kind of content ! Keep it comin'
@mez_mez
Жыл бұрын
I'm not up to date with Sauté team wow what a name
@unteejo3678
Жыл бұрын
I’m waiting for double worms 🐛 + wolflord 🐺 bundled together on the same side.
@TheSilverHermitMage
Жыл бұрын
I'd like to apologize to the perpetual mechanic array, at least it stayed on field for more than TWO SECONDS
@sylent0253
Жыл бұрын
Funny how hutao is in the thumbnail yet she is one of the best wenut slayers lol
@beastwithin7772
Жыл бұрын
Well made video. Keep doing more Abyss videos Zajoof. Gladge
@bobsoeterbroek4421
Жыл бұрын
I dont like the only 50 primo mentality of many players. I struggled a lot, had to come back another day for a different buff. The more satisfying to finally clear it
@PedroHenriqueSobreiro
Жыл бұрын
At least i discovered that my nilou and ayaka teams are pretty well built
@trupa9399
Жыл бұрын
Please keep this content up! Ty
@1Henrink
Жыл бұрын
Appreciate this content Mr.Zajeff. Thank you.
@infamousnilraeh549
Жыл бұрын
Awesome video. Definitely need to do this again
@DeathDawns
Жыл бұрын
sunfire ayato also feels pretty good against the cryo abyss lector since he cant get knocked back
@rayanexyz
Жыл бұрын
So that's why my aggravate team struggled that much
@diogoschneider2479
Жыл бұрын
I'm evaluating if the 50 freemogems from the last chamber of floor 12 are worth getting or if I should prioritize my sanity 🤡
@mismismism
Жыл бұрын
Can confirm, it's not worth it, not even close.
@crocworks
Жыл бұрын
I 36 starred this Abyss. All of Floor 12 Side A used Amber, Xingqiu, Sayu, Hu Tao 12-1B + 12-3B used Nahida, Bennett, Yanfei, Ganyu; 12-2B used Sucrose instead of Yanfei.
@zivi8157
Жыл бұрын
i ended up using wanderer, layla, xiangling, and benny for first half and nahida, xingqiu, yelan, kuki second half and just doing a few runs to have my bursts up for each chamber. the only actually well built character in the first half team is layla, so that one was a pain and for 12-3 i had to rely on getting the right widsith buff for wanderer and ended up getting the 36 stars within the last second. i also have a pretty strong nilou and tried it for the second half, but it just couldnt get the wenut in time, so i relied on hyperbloom for the better single target. last abyss i used a nilou team with yaoyao for the first half just to get chamber 3 and that could 3 star it as well
@peted2783
Жыл бұрын
This is the only abyss so far where I’ve had to switch teams between chambers 2 and 3. I simply couldn’t get enough damage from Keqing hyperbloom (I don’t have kuki) to kill the Wenut and had to switch to Hutao double hydro to 3*
@lavender_honey9242
Жыл бұрын
got 36 stars pretty easily with yoimiya double hydro and ayaka freeze (used diona in the previous rotation, then got shenhe). the wenut was annoying but overall, there's nothing impossible when your team has almost two years of investment. thank you for an insightful video!
@FirstLast-qq9zh
Жыл бұрын
Omfg I thought I was doing less damage with my aggravate team. Good to know im not going insane.
@alexegoleanu942
Жыл бұрын
I had no idea Fischl's A4 doesn't work on Wenut, this means my Keqing is pretty strong
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