As Dave Grohl would say, I have another confession to make. I am a fake Half-Life fan. I have never watched Freeman's Mind. I heard about it multiple times, but I never knew what it even tackled or how it was made. So no, I didn't leave a Garry's Mod praise section out of the video on purpose. It's one of the best things Half-Life Source has done, as many have pointed out. I just never actually took that into account because I just kinda hard-focused on what the game meant to Black Mesa, which is what I know best about it. Again, sorry. Try to mentalize a section talking about Garry's Mod's integration with HLS at the end of the video, around the part when I say you should remember Half-Life Source. Expect an ukulele apology video in the future.
@DropsOfMars
9 ай бұрын
If you have missed Freeman's Mind up to this point, it is now required viewing to also watch the completely unedited Half-Life VR but the Al is Self-Aware series. I don't make the rules
@maplecatstars
9 ай бұрын
@@DropsOfMars ARGHHHH THAT TOOOOOOOO god im such an idiot
@lambdrey
9 ай бұрын
As I know it, most people only buy Half-Life Source to have it as a port of Half-Life in Garry's Mod.
@loco4loco
9 ай бұрын
Yep
@TylerTMG
9 ай бұрын
i dont gave gmod but i got it
@TylerTMG
9 ай бұрын
haha sale was great
@HinkHall
9 ай бұрын
I just like owning weird valve games like condition zero deleted scenes
@thepizzacarpizza1056
9 ай бұрын
Half life source is just a gmod dlc Nothing else
@IsmailofeRegime
9 ай бұрын
My live reaction to the original HL was being five or six years old and being confused why the boxart promised cool action whereas I was stuck walking around a peaceful science facility with a bunch of old men chiding me for not going to the test chamber. Then I mashed buttons on my keyboard until I hit "E," acquired the HEV suit, and the rest is history.
@nechdaught3412
9 ай бұрын
And that’s why the hazard course exists
@HerrMarajin
9 ай бұрын
Original Xen wasn't as bad as people say. But Black Mesa's Xen is absolutely amazing.
@White927
6 ай бұрын
Yes but I kind of hated the final segment.
@Blaz_Haz_KATZ
9 ай бұрын
Yes, even though Half-Life: Source is terrible it has also helped to create a lot of stuff Like Freeman's Mind & the Gman Squad And also being the only way to use Half-Life stuff in Gmod HLS may be bad, but without it, we wouldn't have a lot of cool HL stuff that we have today And without HLS we wouldn't have HLVRAI So I am grateful that Half-Life: Source was made
@maplecatstars
9 ай бұрын
that is true! in some sense, half life source wasnt all bad, and the things that came from its integration with the source engine were great. i just wish it hadnt gotten to the point it has :(
@V1ultrakillreal
9 ай бұрын
We also wouldn’t have the black mesa game
@giberic
9 ай бұрын
I wonder how functional Half-Life Deathmatch: Source was at launch. It's really broken now but i wonder what it was like back then
@maplecatstars
9 ай бұрын
WAIT i know you!!! you made that temptation stairway speedrun video! that video is SO good, dude! and also the more recent half lfie 25th anniversary frag dump, youre like a legend and a half edit: AND THE HD CAIPIRINHA REMASTER TOO youre so real for that
@maplecatstars
9 ай бұрын
also yeah i could probably take a look at that, but idk if itll have the same amount of info as half life source, worth a try though :-)
@giberic
9 ай бұрын
@@maplecatstars oh thanks. My channel used to just be a dumping ground for stupid shitposts I would make (some of which got real popular for some reason) but I'm focusing on half life and valve-related content now. I guess older versions of HLDM:S probably wouldn't have been archived as well as HL:S
@darkrauser1
8 ай бұрын
It worked fine when I first played it around 2009. It was just Half Life 1 graphics with the physics and shaders from Half Life 2, things like ragdoll physics, shiny water, actual shadows instead of blobs, more realistic looking flashlight effect, etc. Other than that, it pretty much played like the original.
@thisname5ucks
9 ай бұрын
small correction: Half-Life Source is still able to be purchased, but it doesnt show up in searches
@theblunderbussbrothers9547
9 ай бұрын
Man, I remember when steampipe came out. I was 15 at the time, and had been making all kinds of crazy, wacky maps between 2009 and then. In an instant, steampipe permanently deleted all my map files (which I hadn't backed up) and I lost so many funny maps I'd made. Curse you, steampipe.
@CrAzYpotpie
9 ай бұрын
Ummm... How? Never lost anything when steampipe happened, it just broke a lot of mods.
@theblunderbussbrothers9547
9 ай бұрын
@@CrAzYpotpie I had all my map files inside Episode 2's maps folder.
@Deliveredmean42
9 ай бұрын
Yikes, you were young back then. So it was unforunetly that you didn't knew that is not a good way to save your source files, even outside of the steampipe dilemna.@@theblunderbussbrothers9547
@maplecatstars
9 ай бұрын
yikes indeed :/ had a similar thing happen to me, back in 2018 my pc started acting up and in the process of deleting steam i got rid of all my original garrys mod screenshots from like 2014 and 2015, ive never recovered mentally since
@CrAzYpotpie
9 ай бұрын
@@theblunderbussbrothers9547 I am sorry to hear it, but that is 100% your fault.
@Mods_o_joy
8 ай бұрын
i legitimately have never had issues with HL:S, played the entire thing through and through multiple times and only ever encountered one bug, and that was a sequence break where i was able to skip a puzzle ONCE.
@brickshitter8015
9 ай бұрын
Your sense of humor really hit home for me. Subbed; looking forward to seeing your channel grow!
@maplecatstars
9 ай бұрын
thank you brickshitter8015
@foxy629
6 ай бұрын
basedshitter8015
@PurpleColonel
9 ай бұрын
HLS should be remembered for the awesome projects people made by reigning it in, like Freemans Mind
@maplecatstars
9 ай бұрын
whats that? one of my biggest inspirations in my comments? life has peaked also i am sad to announce i am actually a fake half life fan and have never watched freemans mind :[ i shouldve by now, i deeply regret leaving it out of the video
@PurpleColonel
9 ай бұрын
@maplecatstars aw well thanks :) this video's too good to be inspired by any of mine
@maplecatstars
9 ай бұрын
if i got a compliment from you that must mean im doing something right haha, thanks a lot dude appreciate it! keep up with the good content too
@VidyaMusicVids90
9 ай бұрын
I remember the original Half Life, Even the demo for it. Few years ago I wanted to replay it and I accidentally got source. I was wondering why everything seemed wrong and spoiled it. I eventually got the good ol version over time. The original is prime IMO
@essurio
9 ай бұрын
Oh, hey. It's a new video! Glad to see you upload something again. :)
@maplecatstars
9 ай бұрын
:) hi
@bjoernschumacher5852
9 ай бұрын
There was something like an inofficial patch to HL:S in the internet, that proclaimed to fix this sh*t up.
@odinatra
9 ай бұрын
It did. Also combined maps into larger ones and made game feel quite fresh, even if MP5 became OP.
@diogo763
9 ай бұрын
I still cant believe I played half life for the first time 3 years ago through the source version. It had so many issues
@mckelepic
9 ай бұрын
i like the one second appearance of ricochet, genuinely love that game and play it with friends all the time
@moskitoslayer
9 ай бұрын
Half life source is dead ? I don’t remember it being alive in the first place
@ThatGenericPyro
7 ай бұрын
OnLY *hAlF* aLiVe
@Josuemaneiros7
9 ай бұрын
More like half-assed port
@Roach1
9 ай бұрын
slight correction; half life source hasn't been taken off the steam store, its been delisted, you CAN still purchase it outside of bundles if you have the URL for it, it just won't show up in searches anymore and yeah i'm pretty sure this was done for gmod and no other reason, people would've been pissed if you just couldn't buy hls at all anymore
@I_Am_Wasabi_Man
9 ай бұрын
i dunno what song that is, but it sounds like the nastiest cover of paralyzer by finger eleven (good video btw, just that intro song brain blasted me)
@maplecatstars
9 ай бұрын
lmaoooo now that you mention it it kinda does sound like it song name's in the description btw, i only used live versions to avoid restrictions
@tidepoolclipper8657
9 ай бұрын
While a part of me would wish they would pull an anniversary edition with the game and majorly touch it up on Source 2; it would probably feel to some extent redundant since we now have Half-Life: Enriched. That basically replaces the Source version at this rate, even if the game can still be found on STEAM.
@homerhat420
9 ай бұрын
Redesigned Xen feels like victory lap for the devs to me.
@cybernightzero5891
9 ай бұрын
My only thought about HL: Source. I was a bit puzzled when I initially played it in 2011 but overall I'm like "Chill, its HL in the source engine. Nothing more nothing less. (Although the game is much more broken now than when I first played it)
@dippythehippy
9 ай бұрын
The reason the point about the place of black mesa vs half-life is contentious is because, at least in the form you presented, it requires diminishing the brilliance of half-life
@TheOneEpicplayer
9 ай бұрын
Let us not forget Half-Life Deathmatch Source. The official representation of Gordon's state of mind during stasis for 20 years. Endlessly reliving killing himself over and over again in Crossfire...in Source, because Gordon only remembers his past to be in Source (Hence HLS being his recalling of the HL1 events).
@tsuwaque
8 ай бұрын
makes sense
@slipperyfredREAL
9 ай бұрын
neat video but you should speak slower and more carefully so you dont slur your words
@maplecatstars
9 ай бұрын
looking back, i really should xd thanks
@Eksevis
9 ай бұрын
As far as the Black Mesa vs Half-Life argument.. as someone who is sort of in the middle, I think the argument is that Black Mesa was made as a response to Half-Life: Source. not the base, original Half-Life. It doesn't attempt to overwrite it - it's just the remake we wanted from what would end up being the source port. HL1 and BM are definitely not the same, and while BM is obviously more modern, I don't think it's necessarily better than HL1 in [every] way (some - if not most - of the guns feel better in HL1 in my opinion). I think they both deserve to be played
@JoboGamezzz
7 ай бұрын
Kind of sad to see it go as I always had a fondness for hl source even ignoring how it helped with half life 1s community
@tidepoolclipper8657
9 ай бұрын
If the GoldSource version of Black Mesa became an actual full fledged project, it makes you wonder what its Xen would be like compared to Xen from the original Half-Life and Source. There's no way they can just duplicate the Source Black Mesa version entirely. Even if Valve didn't break the Source version of the original Half-Life so much, people don't like the original Xen anyways.
@chewy99.
8 ай бұрын
Yeah I just got it in a bundle yesterday lol
@theblasphemouspickle8181
9 ай бұрын
It's not dead, just delisted to avoid confusion for new comers, you can still purchase the game with a link to the page, this is because valve understands certain games and software still need access to this game such as sfm, hammer and gmod. plus it's not "not how to pro-form a remaster" in fact it was the opposite, when it first released it was actually acceptable, steampipe just ruined it through years of updates.
@chewy99.
8 ай бұрын
1:55 You stole that from Kelski right lol
@maplecatstars
8 ай бұрын
i did? it wasnt my intention :( which video are we talking about?
@elrondmcbong467
9 ай бұрын
HL:S added a butt ton of bugs, oh and shiny water.
@thatguyfromA6915
9 ай бұрын
But that because of steampipe the game originaly had like 3 bugs but after steampipe the game became shit
@GenericName23
8 ай бұрын
This mf speaks in 2x speed
@Steve606_
7 ай бұрын
Half-Life: Source was unfortunately my first exposure to half-life other than Portal 1/2 and Gmod. After playing through it and dealing with its bugginess and that disgrace of a physics platforming part in unforseen consequences, as well as the screwed up HIGHLY IMPORTANT SCENE in we've got hostiles, i just blamed everything on old game design and thought that was that. After actually going through the real HL1 and discovering the rest of the games, it just makes me so frustrated that there's probably so many people like me who had that lump of garbage as their first exposure to the series as well and wrote it off because of that.
@erikpng
9 ай бұрын
About the argument about which is better or whatever, it comes down to preference, but I think playing Black Mesa first undermines all the cool improvements that Half-Life 2 has, so it would make playing HL2 not as authentic so to speak. Instead of "Wow" you get "Oh, cool" Yk.
@maplecatstars
9 ай бұрын
yeah i understand, its definitely a preference thing the thing is that most people who prefer black mesa over half life are like me, who didn't really grow up with the original but i also think playing black mesa first doesnt undermine everything half life 2 improved over the first half life, as long as you keep in mind black mesa is a remake
@NickAaron1994
9 ай бұрын
It is hard to get that perspective of someone who hasn't grown up with it, both groups will have their preferences. For me and I've seen other HL1 fans with this complaint that Black Mesa is not as well paced as Half Life, with a campaign that runs 3-5 hours longer than the original for various reasons due to its map designs, extended fights, added plug puzzles, and obviously expanded Xen levels. Xen itself is a mixed bag for me in Black Mesa, the Xen arrival chapter and the Gonarch fight is a masterpiece while I honestly think the Interloper chapter is atrocious. By now we have the perspective that yeah, Black Mesa is a fan interpretation of the original game so it will be inherently different for better or worse. But at launch in 2020 after waiting so long there were a few moments of "oh it feels like it still didn't get the time it needed". Luckily Black Mesa still feels like a fan project at heart and the idea that a fan can come along in Workshop even and re-do Interloper or trim the fat on a few chapters and polish Black Mesa even further makes me think at some point we may finally see a version that does feel perfect.
@maplecatstars
9 ай бұрын
@@NickAaron1994 i also agree black mesa's interloper is big slop, i didnt like the original all that much but black mesa's is so much worse. i like the attempt at shedding more light into the ways the alien controllers... well, control the vortigaunts and also how it feels more like a factory, but that comes at the expense of ruining the pacing set by the previous two chapters, and it just draaaaags oooooon, plus it tanked my framerate in more than one occasion but overall, i think the longer campaign is warranted, just not in that particular chapter. it couldve been more fleshed-out and still not be as boring as it was to sit through dont ask me how though i just like complaining
@erikpng
9 ай бұрын
@maplecatstars I also am a zoomer. In fact you're older than me, I'm pretty sure. Like I was born a week after HL2. And got into the franchise in like 2015. I just think HL2 is such a marvel that Black Mesa takes away from it.
@INFILTR8US
9 ай бұрын
@@erikpngThere's no pleasing some people, apparently.
@Gizayt
9 ай бұрын
The half-life of half-life: source
@maplecatstars
9 ай бұрын
probably a better title
@xenomorphlover
9 ай бұрын
I still play the source version of Half life cause it's the only way to experience this timeless classic in 5.1 surround sound...
@R3TR0--93
9 ай бұрын
thank god Valve acknowledged this POS version and took it off their store!
@SASTSimon
6 ай бұрын
Half life source is really useful to me still. Its a must have garrys mod extra
@zorgapb4691
9 ай бұрын
Like it or not, there is one thing Half Life Source will forever be better than original Half Life And that is AI pathfinding
@kochkochkoch
9 ай бұрын
O sotaque é tão único que eu demorei pra perceber que tu é brasileiro mesmo citando o Brasil kkkk
@clydemarshall8095
9 ай бұрын
It should be kept available for posterity. It was the first way I played Half-Life after all.
@audax117
2 ай бұрын
Ppl give way too much crap to the GTA Definitive Edition and the Silent Hill HD Collection. They're perfectly playable from beginning to end. May not be the best way to play it but it's better than nothing. Besides, SH HD Collection runs on Series X and the GTA DE runs very good out of the box on modern systems, which is a HUGE plus imo. Half Life Source was straight up broken and unplayable
@emerpie
9 ай бұрын
hey i've still got the copy of half-life source in my steam library
@Snufflegrunt
9 ай бұрын
What if I told you that Valve broke HL:S. It used to function perfectly well.
@grasshopper-ln9us
9 ай бұрын
I never had any problems with source, though I played it on mac
@tjhedgescout3052
9 ай бұрын
Why didn't they make a "Re-sourced" update to fix the game? Also yeah Blaz is right, without HLS some popular stuff wouldnt exist, or be completely different.
@maplecatstars
9 ай бұрын
my guess is that by the point valve realized the game was broken due to steampipe 2013, two things had already happened - black mesa was far into development, and a handful of modders were also trying to fix half life source (source pending - i have no idea if thats true) and obviously, i dont think half life source was ever thaaaat high on the totem pole for valve priorities, they basically just let the fans themselves realize how bad it is and that would be that
@RUBEN_Gavril
8 ай бұрын
So this is not the hl source problem this the valve proplem
@icerain381
9 ай бұрын
I'd like to know, does anybody feel like the original plays better than Black Mesa? (I know it's off-topic to the video but like, it just came to mind)
@randybobandy9828
5 ай бұрын
No absolutely not.
@김기우-i5d
9 ай бұрын
Can you say what is the name of music that came out end of intro
@maplecatstars
9 ай бұрын
oh right i forgot to add those lmao if you mean the song at 1:33, it's called Be Bold Like Elijah, by Irontom :) edit: i just put the rest in the description too
@김기우-i5d
9 ай бұрын
@@maplecatstars Thanks !! i really love your intro ! it made me watch your other videos too
@maplecatstars
9 ай бұрын
thanks a lot :] really proud of how this one specifically came out too, glad others like it as much as me
@cadentubeohara3970
Ай бұрын
It’s always been my opinion that half life source is fine the bugs and the minor physics differences just make the game more my type of game because I love funny physics and i unironically love buggy games not to mention I shoot half life 1 scientists in gmod for a quick laugh all I’m saying is half life source can be fun but overall the original or black mesa is better for if you want to seriously enjoy half life for what it is
@blenderguy5659
9 ай бұрын
The main thing that makes half life better than black mesa is the freedom. I don't see you bunny hopping in black mesa, do I?
@Mx.Dmg1999
9 ай бұрын
HDTF somehow is being sold on steam.. enjoyed half life source because ragdolls, didn't come across any bugs as well, the more half life the better :P
@maplecatstars
9 ай бұрын
wdym bro! hunt down the freeman is peak!
@Bericula
9 ай бұрын
@@maplecatstarsI loved it when *freeman* was in hunt down the *freeman*
@maplecatstars
9 ай бұрын
@@Bericula i loved it when mitchell hunted all over the freeman. truly a moment
@Mx.Dmg1999
9 ай бұрын
@@maplecatstars Gunplay is great, story not so much lol
@maplecatstars
9 ай бұрын
@@Mx.Dmg1999 EVERYWTHING about hunt down the peak is great. your just biased!
@OfficalKennyMcCormick
9 ай бұрын
u are wrong cuz u can still buy Half-Life Deathmatch: Source whitch also Includes Half Life: Source
@Insanabiliter_In_Linea
9 ай бұрын
They mentioned bundles in the video.
@OiCCaboose
9 ай бұрын
This dude is speaking English...a language I have spoken since I was 0 and I cannot understand him,
@Group-935
9 ай бұрын
Yay! I will now own a rare digital game in the future! Woohoo! Wait... I don't know if I actually want that. Considering it is not good, not good at all. I only own that version cause I thought it was an upgrade from the original. Oh, how innocent I was.
@agriden_arts
9 ай бұрын
Good video, but oof you talk kind of fast. I had to play it at .75 speed in order to better parse what you are saying.
@maplecatstars
9 ай бұрын
i understand :( i'll try to speak slower next time around
@Pacman009
9 ай бұрын
Wait until the HL:S bashers realize that HL:S was not broken on release and was actually a good port
@kat-dy6jc
9 ай бұрын
this is just straight up erasure lol. even on release HL:S was just, lame. 0 build up until release, literally just dropped it in a bundle. and it was just lazy, a near copy and paste of GoldSrc half life with half baked improvements
@maplecatstars
9 ай бұрын
initially it was at least better than what we have today, but i still wouldnt call it a good port either. i wasnt there to see it though so my opinion might be skewed and this video is a lie and i'm retiring from youtube tomorrow
@maplecatstars
9 ай бұрын
@@kat-dy6jc also w jill pfp
@Pacman009
9 ай бұрын
@@maplecatstars pretty much all bugs weren’t there and it was pretty good. I will be expecting a immediate ukulele apology video by tomorrow. I am holding Simmons from Blue Shift for ransom.
@Pilotgeek
9 ай бұрын
@@Pacman009 Can confirm as someone who bought HL2 on 5 CD-Roms, HLS wasn't broken on launch. I don't think it was meant to be an improvement, just their old game on the new engine to make it more seamless for new players who hadn't played the original yet. With the original codebase meant to run on Windows 98, I think Valve thought moving it to Source engine would be more maintainable. As we saw, that wasn't the case.
@SigtryggrWithWhiskers
9 ай бұрын
Half life source is awesome. I don't have to ride the stupid intro train. The updated technology makes the game look amazing and modders fixed it years ago. Honestly the half life fanbase just keeps hating on it because they've been doing it since forever, and new fans hate it because other people hate it.
@cannonbyrd1755
9 ай бұрын
What mods?
@SigtryggrWithWhiskers
9 ай бұрын
@@cannonbyrd1755 half life source fixed
@cannonbyrd1755
9 ай бұрын
@@SigtryggrWithWhiskers hmm mite check it out. HL:S how how i first played the game and i didnt notice anything wrong on my first playthrew, but then again, i wouldnt have known what to look for
@Saneful_insanity
9 ай бұрын
I hate it because the art styles of hl1 and the source engine don’t go together. Every time I see that hl2 water in half life 1 it makes me want to barf.
@thename1029
9 ай бұрын
We also hate it as people unknowingly stumble upon it and decided to play it getting the worst half-life experience, especially if they don’t know how to mod it.
@ikagura
9 ай бұрын
Why not giving it for free for Gmod owners?
@Blend_it
9 ай бұрын
maple, i know you get this alot but... 🌟let's get married🌟
@maplecatstars
9 ай бұрын
deepest apologies, i am married to that grind, dab
@Blend_it
9 ай бұрын
@@maplecatstars idk if i should do a downbad response or accept my reality of losing to the grind...
@KimFareseed
9 ай бұрын
HL:S was the last game remaining in the HL1 compleat bundel for me, so picked it up durring the aniversary sale. The game exceeded my low expectations I had for it after all I had heard. Was unpolished, but not the broken mess that I expected. 6:53 I wonder how that happen. Didn't get that when I played HL:S.
@maplecatstars
9 ай бұрын
6:53 happens when you turn on the flashlight, i also wondered to myself at first "weird. why isnt it doing the thing"
@npc_citizen9276
9 ай бұрын
Half life source was butchered beyond belief because of STEAM PIPE. I love half life source. It was good on release but god demolished by steam updates.
@milddiffuse
9 ай бұрын
it was alive?
@maplecatstars
9 ай бұрын
believe it or not!
@hoodglasses8237
9 ай бұрын
Even listening at half speed, I can barely understand what you are saying. Slow down and enunciate my guy.
@maplecatstars
9 ай бұрын
i will :( that one's on me, sorry
@hoodglasses8237
9 ай бұрын
Your writing is great - the public deserves to hear those words clearly through your beautiful lips. @@maplecatstars
@pedrotzexpacial3612
9 ай бұрын
Tf2 video when?
@maplecatstars
9 ай бұрын
whenever valve removes pyro from the game (celebration video)
@pedrotzexpacial3612
9 ай бұрын
@@maplecatstars and remove the sniper rifle
@maplecatstars
9 ай бұрын
@@pedrotzexpacial3612 TRUE ‼️‼️
@THEnicholasvancosky
9 ай бұрын
While Half-Life: Source is absolute rubbish, I'm not a fan of the decision to delist it. It's a part of Half-Life's history and I feel like the option to experience "that one weird version of Half-Life that exists for some reason" should be available for interested individuals. If you hate how busted it is that much, just get the Half-Life: Source Fixed mod since it makes it a more acceptable experience.
@polocatfan
9 ай бұрын
it's not delisted. you get it free with half life deathmatch source.
@THEnicholasvancosky
9 ай бұрын
@@polocatfan oh
@coderamen666
9 ай бұрын
I might just play this game to laugh at how buggy it is.
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