NOTES: As I mentioned in the video, I did try lifting the TDP and even overclocking, and I think my best result was about 3500 in Time Spy. A good uplift, certainly, but still about 850 points short of the average. Sorry for the swear at the end, but I really felt it 🙂
@christianmino3753
10 ай бұрын
If the prayer and the underwear didn't do it this cards just dust in the wind my friend ;) - - I'm sure I speak for the whole community when I say this, thanks for your hardwork! - Chris
@typerightseesight
10 ай бұрын
id put a psu cpu this thing tower together but im pretty sure it would just be a vacuum cleaner if the psu was at the bottom.
@radzimeg
10 ай бұрын
the swear at the end was there just to set the mood, don't be sorry, it was funny
@moorhen6156
10 ай бұрын
just a thought probs won't solve the problem but when you DDU you have ticked the option to not install window display drivers right?
@Splarkszter
10 ай бұрын
I'd replace the GPU, if it's faulty that's it. If nobody else has that problem or when you replace it it doesn't happen again that's it.
@johnmakris2973
10 ай бұрын
I think the gpu works as intended. It did challenge you after all.
@ThatOneTechno
10 ай бұрын
lol
@RobBCactive
10 ай бұрын
😆😉
@cytro
10 ай бұрын
Lol, this got me, nice one
@balazsmiklos9509
10 ай бұрын
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@AlizHalo
10 ай бұрын
It's in the name
@XmaXma6
10 ай бұрын
The german creator "Rawiioli" has the same issue with his asrock challenger. He also has an lp a380 from asrock wich works as expected. Something seems to be wrong with the challenger version
@kraio-sfu
10 ай бұрын
I’m getting an lp a380, good to hear there aren’t any issues there
@nsreturn1365
10 ай бұрын
well its ashrock overheating classic, sure they make the smallest gpus, that comes also at a price( non existent heatsink)
@bdub1682
10 ай бұрын
@nsreturn1365 all of the benchmarks show it hitting only 60c Tho interestingly power usage is half of the tdp consistently
@dapottis
10 ай бұрын
not surprised, asrock products are dog shit
@ryanspencer6778
10 ай бұрын
However, I have a Challenger A380 and as far as I can tell, it worked fine when I did gaming tests with it.
@TheBcoolGuy
10 ай бұрын
That's proof to me that sometimes, less is more. Good on you for seeing the whole troubleshooting process through. It turned into a much more interesting video than yet another review of some product I'm not going to buy anyway.
@emlyndewar
10 ай бұрын
He didn’t do anything right. If you’re having such a massive problem, that isn’t the same as normal users, then you reinstall. To not do so, is pretty wild.
@ThatOneTechno
10 ай бұрын
lol
@EbonySaints
10 ай бұрын
@emlyndewar You can, and I did for mine, but it's *extremely* inconvenient for almost every user to perform a fresh install of their OS. I didn't have much left to my digital name when I did it, so I wasn't phased, but there are plenty of people who would have issues doing that, either out of stupidity or no extra backups. It's not the IT way, and for Iceberg, I would assume that he should have given it a try first, but for most normal people, it's a death sentence to their data. Going forward, he could have an image of a clean Windows install with nothing other than the basics and use that for videos like this. That seems like a good option.
@b0ne91
10 ай бұрын
This sweet baby has been going strong in my media server as a transcode GPU for a year or so. Very happy with it - but that's its only purpose.
@twiistedpanda4781
10 ай бұрын
I use that in my media server too! It`s also cool that I can play light games on my projector too
@AshtonCoolman
10 ай бұрын
I got one for my plex server and it's great.
@And-vx6ry
10 ай бұрын
How many fps can it do in coverting 4k 120fps 1440p 120fps from h264 to av1 ?
@b0ne91
10 ай бұрын
@@And-vx6ry It's a media server, so I don't re-encode in AV1. Hardware encoding will never give the quality I need. I usually grab 4k DV remuxes. The transcode is usually h265 to h265 or h264 when friends connect to my server who don't have compatible device. AV1 does work, but I don't have enough clients that support hardware decode and I'm not bandwidth limited where I have those clients (home network). You wouldn't want to re-encode h264 to AV1 anyway, that's a massive quality loss. Either you encode raw captures in AV1 or you get raw blu-rays, which are h265 (when talking 4k) and encode from source - hardware encode would yield terrible results here.
@scratchos9816
10 ай бұрын
@@b0ne91I thought AV1 had better videos quality than h264 and h265 at a smaller files size
@flamingscar5263
10 ай бұрын
you sir, are much more dedicated then I am my Dad had a similar issue with a 3080ti, instead of jumping through 10000 hoops to fix it, I just had him RMA it and hes used what seems to be the same GPU happily for over a year now, I could not imagine going through all that work myself unless the GPU is out of its warranty period, and even then by the time a GPU reaches that point I could probably just sell it off for parts and buy a used one for not to much money, especially a GPU as low end as the a380
@IcebergTech
10 ай бұрын
Eh, if I hadn't made something of the A380 then it would have been the fourth video I had to postpone or cancel due to hardware issues in a month. So, it's less "dedication" and more "desperation".... 😥
@GewelReal
10 ай бұрын
@@IcebergTechSometimes you gotta do it
@damasterpiece08
10 ай бұрын
@@IcebergTech i believe techy people call it professionalism :) thanks for your work, your job is to show us the work and results, not what we'd like to see like some clickbaity million dollar company *coughLTT*cough
@flamingscar5263
10 ай бұрын
@@IcebergTech yea that's understandable, I didnt come from the perspective of a content creator, just a techie who's ends up the family's personal tech support
@CyberneticArgumentCreator
10 ай бұрын
I very much doubt the 3080Ti's issues were in any way similar to these A380 issues.
@lucius6950x
10 ай бұрын
Even if this video wasn't the one you wanted to make, I think its a valuable reminder of how you can do everything right and have it all go wrong when it comes to DIY PCs. So don't kick yourself too hard and thanks for the reminder
@TomiWebPro
10 ай бұрын
yea bro so true, my damn diy build sometime turns on, sometimes don't, and sometimes don't even turn off unless i pulled plug...
@pkpnyt4711
10 ай бұрын
The issues isn't about DIY PCs, the real issue is the Intel card is crap (and to some degree PEBKAC). Bottom line. He could have done this using an NV or AMD card and it would have been built no issues. Though I do acknowledge that if you're a noob builder tons can go wrong for you, specially now that people don't read first (like instruction manuals) before doing anything.
@jamesbrendan5170
10 ай бұрын
@@pkpnyt4711didn't he say that he wants to review the A380, though? because using an Nvidia or AMD card certainly is not a way to review an Intel card...
@pkpnyt4711
10 ай бұрын
@jamesbrendan5170 I'm responding to the post lucius6950x made. I'm not responding to wanting to make a video about the a380. He said you can do everything right and have it go all wrong when it comes to DIY PCs. It's a statement that only applies to the intel card and not all DIY PCs.
@alltheotherhandlesaretaken
10 ай бұрын
At 3:07, you can see a slight peak in the “Showing results from the same hardware” graph near where your average score is. This might give an indication that something is wrong with the A380 in general that remains undetected.
@IcebergTech
10 ай бұрын
Damn, good shout. I missed that. Makes me wish I had industry contacts, it would be good to get a bunch of cards to see how much sample variation there is.
@sixospreygaming8949
10 ай бұрын
If you werent overseas and shipping wasnt more than the graphics card itself i would have loved to get you another just so I dont spend the next 6 months wondering. lol@@IcebergTech
@reeveho1384
10 ай бұрын
If you do get a different a380, you should see how the lp version performs against the regular
@mtaufiqn5040
10 ай бұрын
Such a profound opening, well done
@JehanPrasetyo.p
10 ай бұрын
Man i love your content. Edit : Try Another GPU BIOS? Maybe that Model got Power limited?
@dionkill
10 ай бұрын
I had an issue with my now old Gigabyte OC GT 1030 GDDR5 where, for some unknown reason, the wattage would just drop drammatically from the usual 30w during gameplay to something like 15-18w. This made some games completely unplayeable, especially No Man's Sky, where it would be running at 4fps at 1080p. A friend of mine with the EVGA (RIP) GDDR5 version didn't have this issue. And he also had way lower temps, not going above 60°C on an SFF case where i would usually get even 80°C. I thought my old CPU was the problem, but now that I upgraded to a R5 3600 I still have the same issue. My workaround? Getting a 6600XT. Now all games run fine! I honestly have no idea on how to help you mate, still very interesting video and keep up the work!
@jorge69696
10 ай бұрын
Probably power throttling because of high temps. It's likely the memory didn't have any cooling and was reaching 100º.
@yeppyracoony1375
10 ай бұрын
Every 1030 has cooling and all he 1030's i ever went though never had thermal problems even with old thermal paste. @@jorge69696
@alexturnbackthearmy1907
8 ай бұрын
@@jorge69696 Ah, old cards when "Why would you need thermal pads for memory?" was a genuine question.
@krazownik3139
10 ай бұрын
I wonder if running A380 on Linux would give a different results, since Intel drivers are open-source and those on Linux are usually more ahead the curve than those on Microsoft platform.
@MrMunkyMeat
10 ай бұрын
I have an Arc A380 in my system as a dedicated AV-1 encoder. As I already had an RX 6900 XT, it seemed like a good choice for a cheap, drop in stop gap. For that purpose, it has worked amazingly well. It did take me a while to get my settings fine-tuned in OBS. It just didn't make sense to pay nearly a grand for an upgrade to a 7900 XT just for the encoder when the gaming performance difference between the 6900 XT is practically within margin of error.
@mikehank2896
9 ай бұрын
i'm thinking of getting it just for av1, how is it so far?
@MrMunkyMeat
9 ай бұрын
@@mikehank2896 It works really well. Just like a drop in encoder really. I use it with OBS and just choose the encoder and go.
@owomushi_vr
9 ай бұрын
The a380 may need a bios update. Intel did release this in firmware use that one
@theftking
10 ай бұрын
Yeah this is why I can't recommend these GPUs to anyone yet, which is a shame because they're cool.
@theburger_king
10 ай бұрын
Iceberg has such a w editing style
@inkysteve
10 ай бұрын
Genuinely laughed out loud when you built up to bollocks. I've never associated your channel with comedy, you should do more.
@markpoint1351
10 ай бұрын
this video still made my day Iceberg🤣 hope you do get a replacement and that it "works" better... but as always, look forward to your next video!!!
@AStickOnCheese
10 ай бұрын
This video was great. No benchmarks, stats, and little gameplay but your editing and commentary rocks.
@ecklesezekiel9804
10 ай бұрын
I think you're the first person I've seen try to use this for gaming. Everyone else seems to buy this for video transcoding. Streaming encodes and media servers like plex and jellyfin. For the price it's fantastic for those purposes and way more value than a workstation card like a Quadro for 5-6x more. It runs entirely on PCIE power so 75w. For gaming though, you're shooting the moon man but your effort was good.
@dudeonlygamingandotherstuf7791
10 ай бұрын
The card itself may be faulty? Would it be possible to get a replacement??
@HappyBeezerStudios
8 ай бұрын
The Arc A380 is the best hardware AV1 encoder around at this point in time. That is the one thing it is really good. The encoder gives good results and the card uses little power. But your introduction is great. The typical user for a budget GPU would also have a budget CPU. Which is why the cutdown on the RX 6400 and RX 6500 XT hurts so much. Typical users for these systems would be on a PCIe 3 board, so those 4 PCIe lanes will be noticeable. Depending on the game it can lose up to 40% of the performance the card could offer. But your troubleshooting is on point. Even rolling back drivers and disabling reBAR. Despite the usual recommendation to use the latest driver and having reBAR on, sometimes things are just weird and the opposite works. Even going to other platforms. You did everything right with troubleshooting. The only other thing I could think of is that either you ended up with a bad card, or it doesn't clock how it should.
@deltasixtwo
10 ай бұрын
let's just acknowledge how Mr. Iceberg read our minds acurately in time when we would think about ReBar. Bravo!
@FireFalcon
10 ай бұрын
I'm still watching the video, but the one issue I had with the A380 was that it didnt boot with my 2500k system. I still use it every once in a while in my rendering system with my 12700k to use at the same time with my UHD graphics
@dakshinaffyt3686
7 ай бұрын
I had found it listed at 12K INR = 150$ .I was about to grab it but then realised Intel GPUs have some optimisation issues
@samstrolia
10 ай бұрын
I had a weird issue with my 6800xt which caused usage to peak at 60% and I ended up resolving by reinstalling windows. Basically went through the same list as you with diagnosing before finally biting the bullet with windows reinstall. Definitely software end of things for me.
@nguyenhoangson5650
10 ай бұрын
What is your temp using the AIO? I'm currently rocking 5700x with asus tuf motherboard, using 360 AIO from thermalright. My idle temp around 35-45, when opening or closing a program it jump to 60. But when I'm gaming the temp stay stable at around 55-65 degree. Is this normal temp?
@IcebergTech
10 ай бұрын
Yeah, that sounds pretty normal from my Zen 3 experience. I have a custom profile running a little bit quieter than usual, so I’m frequently idling in the high 40s.
@sitaroartworks
4 ай бұрын
9:10 - apparently, 3D mark is your obsession, mate. Your "center of the Universe" lol :)
@wolffangalchemist
10 ай бұрын
I am really hopeful the next iteration of arc gpu's is much more competitive with nvidia and amd on the higher end so we can see mainly nvidia's hand forced to drop prices back to more a sane msrp.
@pkmachinegun
10 ай бұрын
I’m hopeful of this as well.
@HappyBeezerStudios
8 ай бұрын
Waht i hope is taht their next cards are available in the midrange segment and with better performance on older APIs.
@MastermindAtWork
10 ай бұрын
I think you might need a different A380, that's not the Challenger version.
@KoenDoesThings
10 ай бұрын
The only idea I even have is Reinstalling Windows but honestly, Windows is bad enough I don't think that reinstall would even work
@IcebergTech
10 ай бұрын
Yeah I thought about that, but I ran out of time as I had to get the video made.
@pingtime
10 ай бұрын
Until this GPU put where it belongs, on media server. Boy she rips trough AV1 encoding like a champs without breaking a sweat, the most cheapest AV1 transcoding capable card in the market, and by a big gap (since the cheapest competitor will be RX 7600 and RTX 4060)
@BReal-10EC
10 ай бұрын
There is definitely something wrong with your card. RandomGaminginHD reviewed this card way back then did it again 6 months ago with the updated drivers that markedly improved performance. He got way better performance and the card was pulling another 15 watts (30+% higher than yours!). Return that card.
@smakfu1375
10 ай бұрын
So, first thing I would do is pull the fan and heatsink and replace the stock thermal paste with something reasonably high-quality. I'd also check tolerances, ensuring that the heatsink is making appropriate contact with the GPU and that any thermal pads don't have tolerance issues. I had a GTX1060 6GB from Galax that had very similar problems: it came down to the GPU underclocking itself for thermal protection reasons (specifically it should have been clocking at around 1820MHz at steady state with a stable temp around 74c, but was instead bouncing of thermal max at 83c and down clocking to ~1500Mhz). It turned out that the entire heatsink assembly wasn't making proper contact with the core or thermal pads. I had to slightly file down the standoffs so the assembly would make proper contact. Once I did this, temps dropped exactly in line with the other identical Galax 1060 in the same machine (the machine is used for CUDA compute experiments and development). I wouldn't be surprised if a bunch of these cards were pumped out with poorly machined heatsinks. The other possibility is that these cards might have a problem vbios implementation. I would check the vbios info matches whatever is supplied with the latest driver (Intel flashes firmware, theoretically, with installation). However, there are caveats, one of which is if the firmware update doesn't succeed (on a specific system) then it doesn't attempt the firmware update again. I doubt this is the issue, but it's worth looking into - there's a good thread on the subject on TechPowerUp's forums.
@oguzhanakdogan9787
10 ай бұрын
Iceberg, if you are reading the comment section, this is the commnet you should read.
@smakfu1375
10 ай бұрын
@@oguzhanakdogan9787 Yeah, just feels like it's some kind of thermal issue - I'd be surprised if that specific card had a borked GPU core, especially since others have commended on a German fellow seeing the same issue. Hopefully there's a resolution to this issue, as I'd be interested to know what's wrong with it.
@MoultrieGeek
10 ай бұрын
I had similar issues with my Challenger 6750 XT but it was heat not performance. I had to cut the power limit to 190w (with an -75mv under volt) to keep the junction temp from hitting 105. RMAed it and the replacement works as intended. I think ASRock has some quality control issues although I would still look at an Intel PCIe gen 4 setup just in case.
@Lord_RFAS
10 ай бұрын
But you're missing the point: it's supposed to be problematic! Why else would Asrock call the series " Challenger" ! 🤣
@wolffangalchemist
10 ай бұрын
My msi 6700xt mech x2 had similar issues out the box, i ended up re applying thermal past to it and getting some good thermal pads for it from thermal grizzly never went over 65c with a undervolt and slight oc. I have a asrock 6950xt oc formula now and it never exhibited these problems period, would be little concerned if it did as this card is overbuilt as far as heatsinks go.
@-Ice_Cold-
10 ай бұрын
You just answered, kid
@MoultrieGeek
10 ай бұрын
@@wolffangalchemist I thought about re-pasting the card but I've never done it before and didn't want to screw up the warranty. I bought this particular card based on multiple reviews that said the cooling on it was excellent. The new card with an undervolt and mild overclock never gets close to 90c junction temp even after hours of play.
@korosoid
10 ай бұрын
Mine 6650 XT also gets 100 degrees at hotspot. You meant hotspot, right?
@Ka-pj8rx
6 ай бұрын
the a380 is under $100 though. I bought one for my brother's first pc. total spent $400.
@duncanwilliams2350
10 ай бұрын
Dumb idea I'm sure, but could you try flashing some other bios to the card to see if something magically starts working. This sounds like someone screwed up something when they made that particular card revision.
@foster9315
10 ай бұрын
Definitely a problematic GPU given that you've tried every steps I would've tried as well before getting to that conclusion. My first guess would be a VRAM issue, I've had graphics cards underperform when they had even a single VRAM chip not working as intended, where swapping that chip fixed issues. Although it's rare. But if it was the GPU itself, I think there would be artifacts and such, not impossible though. Could be a power delivery issue too perhaps ?
@owlmostdead9492
10 ай бұрын
The a380 is going to be a golden card for dedicated streaming builds, Intel Arc is most useful for their encoders. Intel's H.264, H265 and even AV1 is visually on par or superior to Nvidia's encoding.
@HappyBeezerStudios
8 ай бұрын
And I wouldn't even mind throwing one in if I'd stream. Currrently running a geforce paired with the integrated Intel graphics without issues. Allows me to connect more monitors and have a dedicated encoder that does nothing else.
@rvalent9366
10 ай бұрын
faulty graphics card ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
@chuck2501
10 ай бұрын
check video bios with GPUz maybe even flash a different one :)
@TheAkustikus
10 ай бұрын
I had the same Issue once with an rx570 4GB on a AMD System. The solution was enabling PCIE ASPM from auto to L0s L1 in bios. It turned out the GPU was always in L1 mode and was running on Powersave and couldn't switch to full Power. Hope it helps.
@Very_Questionable
10 ай бұрын
As others may have said, it just may be a defective card, just go ahead and RMA it.
@PerfectMachine
10 ай бұрын
yeah i could never recommend this card for gaming, except maybe the low profile version for really old PCs… I use it for very cheap and excellent media encoding as well as AV1. QSV has gotten very good over the years and the A380 works beautifully as an encoding card alongside my dedicated gaming card.
@goryramsy
10 ай бұрын
Won't work for old PCs.... pcie gen 4 by 8.
@PerfectMachine
10 ай бұрын
@@goryramsy it just runs in an older generation. Runs just fine in my 2004 dell optiplex. Obviously doesn’t run at its fullest potential but it’s much better than something like a GT 710
@joefog964
10 ай бұрын
@@PerfectMachineyou're leaving a lot of performance on the table by not having resizable bar, from what I've seen specifically in regards to encoding
@PerfectMachine
10 ай бұрын
@@joefog964 I know. I have an A380 in my main rig for encoding and I have rebar on. I'm saying that in an old SFF Optiplex, the low profile version is really good when compared to the GT 710 (another half height card). Even without rebar or PCIe 4. That's my point.
@HappyBeezerStudios
8 ай бұрын
I'm not sure how well it would do on pre-reBAR platforms with PCIe 3... For a system that old, getting a LP 1030 might be the better option.
@om4rxt
10 ай бұрын
this might be an issue with this specific version, maybe try a different vbios?
@unclexbox85
10 ай бұрын
This might be a stretch to far (and also probably very costly) but i would suggest trying intel cpu with DDR5, intel doesn't really seems to be that friendly with amd which shows through their software refusing to accurately report it clock speed or even utilization, maybe an i5-13400f + some ddr5 would be better?
@lokeung0807
10 ай бұрын
I guess maybe you can contact Intel directly. I heard their GPU team are very helpful.
@Frightenerd
10 ай бұрын
Loved your channel since I discovered it, keep up the good work. Troubleshooting this seems to be a nightmare
@EbonySaints
10 ай бұрын
It is. I'm almost certain that everyone doing driver development at AXG is testing Arc on 12th Gen and later CPUs with fresh Windows or Linux installs. Buying Arc for any other platform is asking for bugaboos to pop up.
@Castaa
10 ай бұрын
I assume you ensured the GPU and/or vram weren't running below spec for some reason? Just the other day the Afterburner power bar on my 2080 Ti was somehow set to 30%, more than halving my gaming performance.
@Cpt_Wolf
10 ай бұрын
I'll give you a hint. TDP slider in Intel drivers.
@totoriel
10 ай бұрын
hello just want to say all of the A380's are having problems i have an A380 on 3Dmark i get 4418 score, the scores for an a380 can be in the number's of 1230-6120 it's all about how lucky you get with the card ( i tested 10 A380 )
@IcebergTech
10 ай бұрын
10?! Bloody hell!
@totoriel
10 ай бұрын
@@IcebergTech just retested the the with 6120 it got 4 418 i think you need to make a video because a video card can't just lose like 34% of it's performance just like that
@reblitgaming
10 ай бұрын
"Ohh, fck it, i'm done" :D :D :D
@joekoch8485
10 ай бұрын
No one can say you didn’t give an ol college try good sir 💪😂
@AamirM87
10 ай бұрын
Check the PCIE link speed while a benchmark is running. You might need to mess with some ASPM settings in BIOS. But I’m pretty sure that the cards power delivery is faulty. Sometimes the VRM is (or go) faulty leading to card being throttled without anything being seemingly wrong.
@photonboy999
10 ай бұрын
But then the REPORTED GPU FREQUENCY would drop wouldn't it?
@AamirM87
10 ай бұрын
@@photonboy999 Not always. It happens too fast to be caught by monitoring software.
@alexanderrodriguez3837
10 ай бұрын
Its good to see someone else verify what ive gone through with this card. Ive gone through this whole process going insane and thinking to the point that the gpu needed to be rma. I thought i could upgrade to the cpu you have and now i see that wont fix it. So maybe get a different varient of the a380. Like the sparkle.
@laszlozsurka8991
10 ай бұрын
Maybe you got a poorly binned model? My last suggestion is to check if the card runs in PCIe 8 because it might be running in PCIe 1.
@WineLad
10 ай бұрын
I understand the struggles man. I had a rx 5600 xt that plagued me with issues for years. I've now got a rx 6700xt and now i have a stable system i understand how bad and annoying the old card was.
@convextlc9767
10 ай бұрын
Maybe a faulty card, be interested to see if/when you get it replaced if that is what it was.
@KingVulpes
10 ай бұрын
For a gpu you can get for $99 which is lower than the rx 6400...i think its great for light gaming
@nguyenx86
10 ай бұрын
I had it happened to me more than a decade ago with a Radeon 9600 Pro. After cleaning and replacing the old/dried thermal paste, the card still worked fine, but somehow its performance was dragged down to a level of the 9600 non-pro. No matter what I did on the SW side, it just could not regain the original performance it had. So I returned the card and got a replacement that worked perfectly. I suspect it might be really a HW issue rather than software, but still don't know exactly why till thia day... I think you should RMA and get e replacement then
@HappyBeezerStudios
8 ай бұрын
Was it perhaps one of the 9600 Pro with 200 MHz /400 MT/s memory? Normal would be 300 MHz / 600 MT/s, but some manufacturers did slower cards for some reason. At least they were cheaper to offset that.
@nguyenx86
8 ай бұрын
@@HappyBeezerStudios It was the Asus 9600 Pro with the standard clock speed (400Mhz core / 300Mhz - 600 DDR), and I even checked and confirmed it was running at that speed, even after I replaced the thermal paste, but somehow the card could not regain the performance it was originally shipped with :( So I guess I must have damaged the core somehow... and a few weeks later, it did die... But fortunately it was still under warranty, and I got a 9600 XT as a replacement (it was not new, but working fine till I built a new PC)
@daylight4449
10 ай бұрын
Maybe it is defective. I don’t know
@tyler6602
10 ай бұрын
😂 you're saying this like he asked you specifically and it annoyed you
@LukeTheJoker
10 ай бұрын
Wow! Thanks for the video, looks like there might be a problem with that card! I have an AsRock Challenger RX6800 which consistently clocks much higher scores than the average, I wonder if they just have loose tolerances on some cards.
@jodysin7
10 ай бұрын
You might have a bad gpu
@uhohwhy
10 ай бұрын
Arc A380 vs RTX 2050?
@OG_Gamers_Live
8 ай бұрын
faulty card would be my guess. I have the asrock phantom gaming Arc a770 OC card and it worked extremely well on my AMD 5900x system. (Well above expectations to be fair) and performed just above my rtx 2070 super in my old I 6th gen intel 17 6700 system. But it also struggles on that same system in some games. That it performed well on in the AMD build.
@lorsheckmolseh3345
10 ай бұрын
The a380 has only a 96 bit bus and 1/4 of the units of the a770 (nearly 15.000 timespy points). It is more interesting for video encoding than gaming.
@rcavicchijr
9 ай бұрын
Tech powerup puts the a380 at around rx 6400xt/gtx 1650 performance, so it seems to be at least common performance. I might say the card isn't pulling it's full 75 tdp, but the clocks look like it's where it's supposed to be.
@sitaroartworks
4 ай бұрын
Yes, keep saying that Intel ARC sucks so we can have better price under cost x performances because as a matter of fact Intel improve drivers. Keep on using Windows 11 (that sucks in so many ways) without looking at what is going on with Linux and Intel MESA support right now. ARC 380 by AsRock is one of the best VBIOS default settings compared to Sparkle, just saying. Also, the actual way the Vulkan API (through Proton) renders the shaders and anti-aliasing with the upscaling/downscaling balancement (optimized for 1080p/1200p remember, the only and simple purpose those card are made) is actually better than AMD Radeon 5500, 6400 and 6500. Also, nobody stops you to balance your configuration with a Vega 8 inside the APU, maintaining the resize bar on for 8Gb or more. And you got the best from both sides. Experience, intelligence and honesty isn't something that can be bought from a sponsor in a channel.
@FloatingOfficial
10 ай бұрын
The card is supposed to pull 50-60w. While your a380 is puling 40w. Likely an issue with the card itself.
@SpicySteve01
10 ай бұрын
Pc parts have slight differences when being manufactured. You might get a 7600x that preforms closely to a bad preforming 7700x or a 4060 ti thats close to a 4070
@HappyBeezerStudios
8 ай бұрын
That has always been the case, but the difference shouldn't take away a third of it's performance. His results constantly sat around 3000-3100 GPU score in TimeSpy, but the typical result for a A380 on a 5600X should be around 4500 points, with the average being 4656 Yes, I know it's a synthetic test, but that means there should be even less variation due to randomness. They should all sit in the same 5-10% range. And the A380 doesn't have any huge boost range, they all run on 2000 MHz flat.
@knightsun2920
6 ай бұрын
OHHHHH for crying out loud. Why dose the entirety of KZitem so focused on fragging gamming? Use this card for its strengths; like its (and its sibling the A310) very powerful AV1 encoder capability's on say a slightly older RTX 3090 and dedicate it to streaming platforms like OBS and X-Split Broadcaster suites of software.
@EbonySaints
10 ай бұрын
Welp, I can't say that I didn't expect that. Arc in general is a case of "Works on my machine!" if it does exceptionally well or better than expected, and "Completely busted" if it does not. As someone who has owned an A380 for a year at this point, it has been a up and down ride over the last year as Intel plays catch-up with the others. As far as media encoding goes, it's the best bang for buck GPU out there, especially in the low-profile model that doesn't require extra power. It's *the* reason to buy the GPU and I was initially using it to convert my BD library to AV1 until I got lazy. For gaming however... I mean... it does it... 95% of the time... which is better than launch. Frankly, when I saw your CP2077 numbers, I thought everything looked okay because that's about what I was getting with it on the same settings sans FSR/XESS, though I haven't played in forever. Then I looked at the other numbers and kinda did a double take. I haven't touched RE4 outside the demo because I'm broke, but with my overclock, I could get 50+ FPS before it crashed, which doesn't sound great at all now that I think about it, but 30 seems low. There's been a few times where I've been pleasantly surprised by the performance of the A380, but I realize that I am very easily in the minority and I've had to completely reinstall Windows 10 to get it functioning back in the dark ages of overwhelmingly bad drivers. Frankly, there's a *lot* of questions about Arc's performance that even to this day, leaves people in the dark. There's times where it punches way above its weight and does great, there's unexplained weaknesses that seem way below their potential. There's rumors of CPU overhead. There's reports that Alchemist was Raja's attempt at making Vega 2.0. There's the fact that just about every major driver release updates the firmware and if something goes wrong during that, then you're up a creek without a paddle. And since Arc isn't all that popular, all this information and more is buried across multiple forums, subreddits, discord channels and more, almost certain to never be found by anyone wanting or needing the information unless they go down a rabbit hole. And Intel AXG keeps mum. Sure, they're doing a syspheian task of catching up to twenty years of driver development admirably, but there's almost no word from them about Arc otherwise. They're probably trying to make sure that Meteor Lake's launch, which includes Alchemist GPUs on die, isn't going to be a travesty like the original launch, because unlike discrete GPUs, where someone presumably has a basic idea on what they're getting, laptops rarely have that savvy of a base. I can't blame you or anyone else for a bad experience with Arc or the A380. It's a new take on the old days, where you can get a lot of bang for your buck, but only for specific purposes and only if you jump through hoops. Also, those TimeSpy and FireStrike numbers are probably *horrifically* skewed by the low number of benchmarks, the people doing the benchmarks being OC'ers by heart, and the fact that Intel does disproportionately well in synthetic benchmarks (22 in TS graphics and No.1 FS graphics score, I have a useless achievement to my name!🥲) There's times with my A380 that I was on the heels of an RX590 with Geekbench. The guy with the top overall score, ScatterBencher, has like 5 results and used a waterblock with the best version of the card.
@giserson2
10 ай бұрын
The fact that nothing changes between rebar off and on makes me think it's a windows problem, like rebar is enabled in bios but for some reason not in windows. Someone else mentioned checking the PCI-E bandwidth in GPU-Z, it is entirely possible that the GPU and motherboard(s) aren't playing nice with eachother, though I feel like that shouldn't be the case when you've tested three different ones with the same results. Could be a bugged V-BIOS as well.
@eggnogg8086
10 ай бұрын
Maybe vbios? Idek if they have tools for that yet, was power consumption and clock speed normal?
@sitaroartworks
4 ай бұрын
8:49 - no, it's not. GEN3 only for gaming isn't to even remotely considerable a bottle neck because GEN4 is something better conceived for video encoding performances. And you even didn't touch the hardware AV1 argument which performs better than nVidia in terms of space saving (video compression). :)
@svdspl8570
10 ай бұрын
Yours card power consumption seems low, only ~40-ish watts when other test of this card talk about ~75 watts while gaming, it kinda matters what was your power consumption when you lifted tdp, did it go up?
@Elomentoplayz
10 ай бұрын
I knew something was up when on it had worse scores than the GTX 1650 on Userbenchmark, the site of Intel cultists.
@arnislacis9064
8 ай бұрын
I have ARC A750 Limited Edition, but I want to upgrade to some Radeon RX 6700XT or 6800XT.
@Marc_Wolfe
10 ай бұрын
Do any of the tested games run in DX12 or Vulkan. Since Intel apparently just translates everything to some form of those, like proton/DXVK. Doom 2016/Eternal, Fortnite. I think Control too.
@sitaroartworks
4 ай бұрын
6:53 - Let me ask you something: what is the sense of using Futuremark stuff as a point of reference where that "engine" isn't available in any of your tested games? You need a better and proper setup. Test Unreal engine games, Unity games, Frostbite engine games and also, retrogaming if you consider retrogaming playing on GOG Galaxy from the 90's unitl today. You are underestimating this card.
@Del_UK
10 ай бұрын
I know this might sound dumb to some people. In Windows under device manager, did you disable all the other audio devices, except for the one you use to play sound through? I use a Xonar Phoebus sound card, so I have High Definition Audio Device(onboard Realtek) and AMD High Definition Audio Device disabled. (RTX 3070, no audio drivers installed.) For me, this cleared up some stuttering and a slight increase in frames per second, when playing games.
@ballbuster6642
10 ай бұрын
Hello! I'm a big fan of your videos, and I've been binging them lately. Would love to see a video on the E5-1650 or 1660 v4's and a potential comparison to the 2667 v4, 1680 v2 or any other X99 or Xeon chips!!
@AnEagle
10 ай бұрын
The only thing you didn't mention is completely reinstalling windows, or maybe trying on linux, but at this point it sounds like a damaged a380
@hazerou8601
10 ай бұрын
Maybe try installing the DXVK thingy and see if it helps?
@obnot
10 ай бұрын
Who needs gaming benchmarks when you get exceptional storytelling instead?
@MK-xc9to
10 ай бұрын
Well , if an ARC is with R Bar off as fast as with R Bar on than something is wrong . I would try a Game which is known to benefit from R Bar on ARC a lot only to see if R Bar make a difference on your System . Personally i would install a new Bios or at least clear CMOS . My bet is R Bar , you can check with GPU-Z if its enabled or not .
@thegreatTBA
10 ай бұрын
Is that a benjamin button reference?
@IcebergTech
10 ай бұрын
I don't know, I've never seen it. A happy accident, perhaps? EDIT: Oh I get it, the "curious case" thing. Sort of, but also a reference to the book "The Curious Incident of the Dog in the Nighttime", which itself is a reference to "The Hound of the Baskervilles".
@thegreatTBA
10 ай бұрын
It seems that i have flopped
@Kim-fm2vo
10 ай бұрын
If this is in the video already, sorry if I missed. But did you happen to check how many PCIe lanes the GPU was using in GPU-Z? It's possible it's being throttled by bandwidth. True dedication though! Nice video
@Triro
9 ай бұрын
You might just have gotten unlucky and got a defective card. Guess the silicone lottery isn't on your side this time. Or Intel could've messed up some low level hardware firmware on your card. You really never know.
@Redstoneluchs
10 ай бұрын
Yaaay new iceberg video!!!!
@zeka1309
10 ай бұрын
Could the mismatched ram be messing with how the gpu interacts with rebar? Otherwise I can only think about the chip being bad. Maybe you won the gpu lottery but in the wrong direction.
@darthkermit5219
10 ай бұрын
I ended up building a whole new system just so my arc a380 would work. Upon completion of the build, I decided to experiment a little and put my rtx 3060 in the new pc to see how it compared to my old gaming rig, and it was WAY faster than my previous machine. So much faster, I couldn't justify taking it out and only using the new pc only for the a380's av1 encoding. As it stands now, I have the rtx 3060 PLUS the a380 installed on my msi z690 pro with a 12600k cpu. I can now play AND stream on the same pc in 4k@60fps. Nvidia and intel must have some kind of secret sauce, because this combination has resulted in the sum being more than the parts. I guess it has to do with their sharing gpu ram, or something. No driver conflicts, no issues, just a dramatically better experience gaming and streaming. Not to mention, only needing one pc to do the work previously done by two. As much as I had grown to despise the a380, it did end up being the catalyst for my best upgrade yet.
@scarfaceReaper
10 ай бұрын
Does it only work with that mobo or something else
@HappyBeezerStudios
8 ай бұрын
That means you now have a great streaming setup. The A380 is indeed really good at AV1 encoding, but just too weak for gaming. For new, demanding games it's simply too slow, and for older games it lacks hardware support for D3D 9
@alexturnbackthearmy1907
8 ай бұрын
I mean...3060 is already a580 level of power, if you needed a standalone card then a380 is no better then 1650.
@CopperHvH
10 ай бұрын
But what about reinstalling windows. That’s the recommended way to swap components anyways
@GraveUypo
10 ай бұрын
probably a crippled card with half-speed memory or something. sure used to be common back then.
@drphibesrises
10 ай бұрын
I think it is an issue with that particular GPU. I have not tested that GPU but I have had similar issues with other cards. Changing brands made a difference.
@catherinemorgan2741
4 ай бұрын
Resident Evil 4 SYSTEM REQUIREMENTS MINIMUM: Requires a 64-bit processor and operating system OS: Windows 10 (64 bit) Processor: AMD Ryzen 3 1200 / Intel Core i5-7500 Memory: 8 GB RAM Graphics: AMD Radeon RX 560 with 4GB VRAM / NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1050 Ti with 4GB VRAM DirectX: Version 12
@CasuallyHuman099
9 ай бұрын
Intel need to reduce the pricing for the badest performance like around $60 maybe.
@hrtech0158
10 ай бұрын
Maybe It’s the cheapest gpu that supposed hardware AV1 encoding
@RichardArkax
Ай бұрын
I don't know why but KZitem removed my subscription from you.. always trying to cancel the actual good entertainment. btw perfect take on the 380. i personally think getting a used 1080Ti for the same price as for this is way better. in my market 1080Tis go for circa 120€
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