I like this bloke's presentation! He gives you a reason at the end to keep checking back for updates
@Timeyy
10 жыл бұрын
I could listen to Professor Brailsford all day!
@BGroothedde
10 жыл бұрын
I'm not a fan of Apple and Apple products, but they took part in the revolution of computing. It's amazing how far things have come since this Apple gem. I also must add; I love how Professor Brailsford talks about these things. I imagine he could make the most dull subject pretty interesting to listen to!
@buzzert1
10 жыл бұрын
Professor Brailsford is great! I love hearing his stories of computing back in the old days. More please!
@thecassman
10 жыл бұрын
I remember i used to literally sit and watch pre-98 screensavers for ages when i was young. They were, back then, amazing. It might have even been the little things like that which made me want to go into Computer Science... Not WHY something does it or WHAT it's for... But HOW does it work.
@Laffen47
10 жыл бұрын
Why do I find these old stories told by this charming old man so incredibly relaxing, interesting and nice...
@jdgrahamo
10 жыл бұрын
Because there's no annoying 'background' music, and he doesn't grimace and yell and gesticulate frantically like some I could name.
@glitchxero4687
10 жыл бұрын
So I'm looking at the folders behind him... "XML, PPML, Buffy the Vampire Slay... wait, what?"
@ThisIsMe1240
10 жыл бұрын
I thought the same thing maybe he's is a fan. lol
@philipmylan654
10 жыл бұрын
I'm loving these stories about the halcyon days of computing from Prof Brailsford. More please, Computerphile!
@ScottStruzik
10 жыл бұрын
I could listen to this guy talk about computers all day long.
@lactobacillusprime
10 жыл бұрын
Love this series of videos you are making. Please keep them coming, thoroughly enjoyable.
@jmglor
10 жыл бұрын
This was a major flashback for me. I had a Mac Plus in high school around 1988 and I loved it. It was my only computer for a number of years. I still have it in my garage, and I imagine it would still work if I plugged it in and turned it on, but the hard drive might be dead at this point, and I don't know if I have any boot disks.
@YtterbiJum
10 жыл бұрын
4:05 "Kmart" Wow, what an amazing relic from the past.
@danielearwicker
10 жыл бұрын
Wonderful stuff! NB Bit-mapped displays were not unusual in 1984. They were the norm in small home computers. Text-only video hardware was more common in IBM mainframe terminals. As a kid I used to design my own icons on the ZX Spectrum in 1983, copying from articles about the Apple Lisa in Byte magazine!
@TheGreatSteve
10 жыл бұрын
Your Buffy folder reminds me of the bag my dad bought for his video camera with "Take That" on it!
@MichielHaisma
10 жыл бұрын
I really really really really like this video and the extra, I could listen to him all day!
@E-StudiosEU
10 жыл бұрын
I loved the sound of that keyboard when typing :D felt so damn heavy & rugged :D
@BastetFurry
10 жыл бұрын
Well, the Commodore folks had Geos as an answer. Sure, only 320x200 versus 512x368(or so) but for only around 600 Deutsche Mark IIRC back then when the complete package (C64-II, 1541-II and 64 KByte REU) came around. And it had color. :) And 1985 came the Amiga 1000 with Workbench, a multitasking(!) window based GUI, completly obliberating any chance for Apple to make a huge impact over here in central Europe.
@jimbass1664
9 жыл бұрын
I remember when we got our Macintosh at school in 1984. We all spent five minutes going "Wow!", spent five minutes playing with Macdraw and then realised that with 128k there was nothing else you could really do with the damn thing and went back to our BBC's. Which only had 32k but if you learned assembly language you could make it dance.
@LB_
10 жыл бұрын
My dad still has one of these at our house! I used it a couple times when I was a kid, it still works!
@frostfang83
10 жыл бұрын
Did anyone notice the books and folders on his shelf? Java, XPath 2.0, PHD Supervision, Buffy the Vampire Slayer. I love this guy
@DoctorVince
10 жыл бұрын
X Window, the graphic for UNIXs, was out and popular by the time the Mac came out.
@THOMASSU63
10 жыл бұрын
But the price for a Unix workstation was at least five times that of a Mac. And, X-Windows weren't as nice looking and functional as MacOS
@ratron
10 жыл бұрын
That's true, The Macintosh wasn't the first computer with a GUI and a desktop metaphor. The Xerox Alto and later the Xerox Star had that in 1979 and 1981. So to say these aspects made the Macintosh revolutionary is giving it way too much credit.
@willfreese
9 жыл бұрын
After working with our Bell and Howell Apple II, the Instructional Media Lab in the Department of Education at Montana State University-Bozeman was delighted to get a Macintosh 128K. They may have called it a toy, but it was our workhorse back then. Much more practical than the early versions of Microsoft Windows.
@1KevinsFamousChili1
10 жыл бұрын
6:24 "Hello World" ahhh the first code of any computer science student :D
@tcfonts
10 жыл бұрын
At the time the major drawback I saw for the Mac was that there wasn't an easy way to get your files from the Apple IIe transferred to the Mac format. The user base for the IIe was huge and there was quite a lot of business apps and therefore data. If they had simply offered a port for and options to purchase a 5.25" drive, I believe this would be a different world today. Does anyone remember when DOS machines had both a 5.25" and a 3.5" drive? Jobs never learned his lesson even with the Next computer which featured the ill-conceived magneto-optical drive. Data transfer-ability is the key for adoption of new platforms.
@typograf62
8 жыл бұрын
Early versions of Turbo Pascal had an option for recovering your source if you had exited without saving. You just started the program again from the command prompt with an asterix. The source was still in memory because DOS did not initialise memory and did not have virtual adresses.
@jannevaatainen
6 жыл бұрын
Great video! As people say, Xerox was of course before Mac, but Macintosh OS really was so much more refined and user friendly than any other Graphical UI, at the time. It really is like the iPhone of computers.
@mrbrdo
10 жыл бұрын
I love this guy (the professor). These videos are probably the most interesting out of all Brady's content for me - not to say that others aren't interesting. Can't wait for new stuff from him! PS: If you're going to film more computer screens, get a more appropriate camera, that was mildly annoying :)
@LMacNeill
10 жыл бұрын
Aldus Pagemaker quickly became the "killer app" for the Macintosh. Especially once the Apple Laserwriter was released (if I recall correctly, that was early 1986 or so? Just about 2 years after the Mcintosh first came out?) Had Aldus Pagemaker and the Apple Laserwriter both been released at the same time as the original Mac, I think it would've been a larger commercial success. As it was, the initial sales of the original Mac were pretty slow. But by 1986, you could buy a Mac SE, a Laserwriter, and Aldus Pagemaker all together, and it became a raging success compared to the earlier sales. Imagine being able to actually CREATE and PUBLISH things right from your DESKTOP!! It was truly spectacular!! A *gigantic* leap from what was available before -- and even though it was all quite expensive when compared to other computers on the market then, it was still FAR cheaper than the equipment and expertise that were needed to publish things before this stuff was available. This is a prime example of what I was talking about in my comment on the 202 Jailbreak video. One step leads inexorably to the next, and suddenly things that were only available to an elite few are available to nearly anyone. I'm really enjoying these trips down memory lane with Prof. Brailsford. Reminds me of why I got into the Computer Science field in the first place -- all of these things were taking place while I was in high school and college, and I really loved being a part of it. Thanks so much for making these videos!
@cgdermot
10 жыл бұрын
I got one of these at home, never booted it but I'm sure it still works. Got it back in 1999, some one was going to through it out and I saved it. Happy I did :). It's stored away with some C64's, Amstrad 1512 and a few other gems.
@Tasarran
10 жыл бұрын
A friend of mine had one of these; I thought it was pretty primitive, with the monochrome screen, but I sure was intrigued by that new-fangled slide-pointy-clicky input device it had. ;)
@makedaevilmage
10 жыл бұрын
it's so cool to see such an old machine at work, i love the older electronics ;D
@RoyNBarlow
5 жыл бұрын
This man is the David Attenborough of the history of computers. I want a full length TV show on Netflix and Hulu about the history of computers and I want it to be narrated by this guy, because I would *PAY MONEY* to watch that.
@Kommandant7
10 жыл бұрын
Prof. Brailsford has a knack for storytelling. I'd like to hear more from him.
@05Rudey
10 жыл бұрын
Never owned a Mac but i used one of these at work, loved it.
@jonathanfortun
10 жыл бұрын
mmm amazing sound of that keyboard! REAL KEYS!
@4Gehe2
10 жыл бұрын
I have to say these are like bed stories for nerds... Grandfatherly voice explaining base of the world we live in and the tools I work with.
@n6i9k4a
10 жыл бұрын
I like those bedtime stories best. :D
@caveman123ization
7 жыл бұрын
The idea of Professor Brailsford and his daughter playing that Puzzle Game together makes so happy.
@unlokia
9 жыл бұрын
Steve Wozniak has HUGE respect from me - he's such a genuine, lovely man and SO kind. Steve Jobs? I think he was arrogant and controlling, manipulative and greedy. Apple are still greedy now, and of course, they've got all their "justifications" well rehearsed and lined up for deployment for anyone who questions them. Jobs even tried to fleece Woz on a few occasions I hear... some friend. People I respect from Apple and Microsoft - Woz and Bill Gates (another very nice, caring person).
@alloria
10 жыл бұрын
Although I was never a fan of Macs, or Apple products in general, I can appreciate that this machine helped to revolutionise the computing industry.
@pixelation.channel
10 жыл бұрын
It was actually the Xerox Alto the first PC that came with a GUI for the OS. It was released 10 years before this Mac.
@s3vster
10 жыл бұрын
omfgroflma0 The revolutionary feature is that people could afford these for their private use.
@pixelation.channel
10 жыл бұрын
s3vster The Xerox Star, the successor of the Xerox Alto, was an accesible PC, with the same price tag as the Mac 128k, and was released 3 years before the aforementioned Mac. Xerox was the original revolutionary company. Apple and Windows came later, inpired by the Xerox Alto, adding their own touch to the 'Desktop, folders and applications' scene.
@BrianBlock
10 жыл бұрын
omfgroflma0 While I agree with all your points on timing and price, I see the largest difference the Apple made is that is was much more readily available. Not many "regular" folks knew of the Xerox PCs, so it just didn't seem as available. Apple did much better with advertisement to make their PCs seem available to the masses. Xerox is still the king of innovation, but they were pretty miserable at advertisement for the masses, instead of those already heavily into the personal computer scene.
@seth094978
10 жыл бұрын
omfgroflma0 From what I can find, the cheapest the Xerox Star sold for was $6000 in 1985, a year after the Mac was introduced. While it was introduced before the Mac, at that point the Xerox Star cost upwards of $16,000, which I would not consider accessible.
@DFX2KX
10 жыл бұрын
I briefly owned one that looked not too unlike this very briefly. The only Mac could ever say that I actually enjoyed using. Never knew they made harddrives for it!
@TheAlexagius
10 жыл бұрын
This guy does the best computerphile vids
@JonnyInfinite
10 жыл бұрын
@Norbert Harrer you're so right. GEM was about 12 months after this and just as capable as the Mac OS. The Amiga had graphics capability that would blow the Mac away while the Atari ST had a revolutionary MIDI interface still used today by artists like Norman Cook. Again we see revisionist history at work. I'm not saying the Mac doesn't have a place in history, it just has an elevated position due to modern day revisionism and fanboy romanticism - don't believe the hype
@Viscount
10 жыл бұрын
I did not have a Mac, but I did have a Tandy 1000. I used to play king's quest by floppy disk. I believe it was 4 to 5 disks long. I miss those games...
@gummansgubbe6225
10 жыл бұрын
Writing my thesis the university recommended mass11 on vax/vms, on the pcs there were word perfect. And one professor had aquired a Macintosh II fx (x for the numerical coprosessor), including chemintosh and ms word. Worked like a dream. And they never added the x when the Macintosh SE got the coprosessor upgrade.
@GeoNeilUK
10 жыл бұрын
I remember the hilarity of working in a floppy based environment on the Amiga 1200 and its nightmare of disc swapping, a right pain when you only had one drive, back then it was a case of rebooting and swapping if you wanted to run a different app that wasn't on the Workbench disk, I'd have loved a hard disk back then!
@Zuraneve
10 жыл бұрын
Oh man, this brings back memories. I used one of these for games (Beyond Dark Castle) and typing up essays for middle/high school. Sadly, I don't know what happened to it. Either dad took it with him when when my parents divorced, or mom tossed it out at some point.
@ShyamRonline
10 жыл бұрын
I like his narration.
@ZardoDhieldor
10 жыл бұрын
At the end, I was completely distracted by the sreensaver in the background! :D
@MadApplesWA
10 жыл бұрын
I've played with one before when i was in group home ;) believe it or not there still around! my favorite game for it was risk!
@mkvision
8 жыл бұрын
Nice video. I also watched the extra bits. I'm wondering if there are any videos about Microsoft. I would like to see that.
@unvergebeneid
10 жыл бұрын
I don't want to argue against the role the Macintosh played in popularizing WIMP interfaces and the desktop metaphor. But asking "are you sure" is perfectly possible in a text-mode editor as well and it surely wasn't anything new to play graphic games. Heck, the NES had been released a year before and that was the 8-bit era already.
@codediporpal
10 жыл бұрын
I remember playing Dark Castle on my mother's Mac. What a well done game for the time. The programmer for Dark Castle went on to create Flash.
@CusterFlux
10 жыл бұрын
As cool as it is to have an original Mac ( and it is ) - it's 10x rarer to have an original Rodime 20 Meg Hard Drive that still works!!!
@MariusMuntean
10 жыл бұрын
I want to hear the "other story". Mr. Heron, please make it happen. Thank you!
@DrDeeDot
10 жыл бұрын
I think one of the weirdest things about the original Mac and several generations afterward was that to eject your floppy disk, you had to drag the disk icon into the trash can. Intuitively, I would think that would erase the disk, not eject it.
@AvGeekLucky
10 жыл бұрын
I'm still happy typing in on the command line.
@AngusPearson
10 жыл бұрын
Happy that XEROX PARC got a mention
@cyprn6600
8 жыл бұрын
I like the fact that Pr. Brailsford has a "Buffy the vampire slayer" binder on his shelf!
@DreamOfRetribution
10 жыл бұрын
Lol...did you saw the full specification of that thing.....they had to optimise those programs relentlessly in order to make them usable with such a low computing power.....Kudos. Cant imagine this happening today
@DrSteveBagley
10 жыл бұрын
Definitely -- there's some fascinating stories over on www.folklore.org about the creation of the mac. The source code to QuickDraw (its graphics library) and MacPaint are also available over at the Computer History Museum to download (if you like reading 68000 machine code :))
@domsusefulstuff
9 жыл бұрын
Wow. We used to use these at our newspaper in 1996. Always at the forefront we were...
@nuevemillas
10 жыл бұрын
The description asumes everyone of us viewers have already and conclusive decided where to love or hate this brand products for the rest of our lives. In my case I analyze the product's features and price regardless of the brand. I don't think it would be a good strategy of life to commit oneself to or to reject forever a single brand.
@matiasguardaredes
10 жыл бұрын
I love this professor!
@WorldBeneathYourFeet0
10 жыл бұрын
What an awesome video!
@capitalex5422
10 жыл бұрын
3:54 This explains a lot about the Mac PC designs...
@SigurdKristvik
10 жыл бұрын
I feel like I got a new cool grandpa. No seriously, these stories are amazing.
@TheKing-nh3es
10 жыл бұрын
I have one it's over 15 years old and it still works
@theas2179
10 жыл бұрын
I remember using one of these when I was very young... maybe five or six or so.
@RMoribayashi
10 жыл бұрын
I'm not sure what year it was, but Philadelphia's Drexel University made the original Macintosh a requirement for students. The even had a school-wide network to link them. You could not open a Mac with out a custom extra long screwdriver. They were very popular items at computer flea markets and ham radio fairs.
@nitaalexandru9324
9 жыл бұрын
2:59 Buffy the vampire slayer :))
@MarkusHobelsberger
10 жыл бұрын
I would love to take my today's PC equipment, step into a time machine and travel back to the early times of computing. Would be quite a show I guess^^
@TheBandScanner
10 жыл бұрын
Bought a Comodore Vic in 1982 for $300, it already had the Mac beat.
@TheStevenWhiting
9 жыл бұрын
According to the books, Steve Jobs and Wozniak's book lack of software for it was also it's downfall.
@1006945
10 жыл бұрын
What's with the *Buffy: The Vampire Slayer* binder in the background?
@DrSteveBagley
10 жыл бұрын
If you look carefully you'll find there's all sorts of historical SF and computer geekery hiding in the video… And I don't just mean DFB :)
@soulcatch
10 жыл бұрын
I was wondering that same thing throughout the whole video
@VKRenato
10 жыл бұрын
This, reminds me of the Amiga days and Deluxe Paint ;) Thumbs Up for the Amiga and Atari but not for Apple
@jasondryhurst-smith2409
10 жыл бұрын
Never noticed the Buffy The Vampire Slayer folder before..... what does he store in there? Episode notes?
@zarjesve2
9 жыл бұрын
here you have Xerox system: kzitem.info/news/bejne/oqSo0oenraKAnqw and here you have some serious rectangle drawing 20 years before Macintosh: kzitem.info/news/bejne/lW9r1HewsX9qg34
@erickleefeld4883
6 жыл бұрын
Apple considered their one-button mouse to be an improvement over the original, three-button Xerox design! Their thinking was that they squeezed all the same functionality into one button, via improvements for the interface such as the ever-present menu bar, double-clicking, and highlighting. This was a genuine accomplishment. But the pride in it was perhaps too intense - leading to Apple stubbornly holding onto the one-button design for the next 20-plus years. Nowadays, though, their gesture-based touchpads present the best PC interface on the market for general purposes.
@MagikGimp
10 жыл бұрын
I spy an old Atari ST magazine binder put to new use on the shelf there. The name of the magazine escapes me, I actually have the same binder myself, but my point in mentioning it is that the ST was released not that long after this machine ('85). Interestingly there was a lawsuit made against its graphical user interface (GEM) for being very similar to the Macintosh's so they beat Gates by a year or so (Windows 2 being their first OS with overlapping windows as mentioned in the follow up video.) A possible topic for a future video perhaps?
@DrSteveBagley
10 жыл бұрын
You might want to pay attention to what's on the desk behind the Mac :) I think the binder is from ST User…
@bjrnvegartorseth9028
10 жыл бұрын
What's in the Buffy binder? WHAT'S IN THE BUFFY BINDER!?
@TheGreatSteve
10 жыл бұрын
We have to know.
@DrSteveBagley
10 жыл бұрын
A copy of the university postgrad quality procedures from 2000, handwritten notes on writing a PDF parser, a copy of various Troff manuals and various PDF tech notes from Adobe…
@TheGreatSteve
10 жыл бұрын
DrSteveBagley The truth is boring. I wanted it to be full of pictures of Sarah Michelle Gellar.
@SpanishBroomaker
10 жыл бұрын
My dad had one of these, I remember them! :)
@F0r3v3rT0m0rr0w
9 жыл бұрын
used one of these when i was real young, or maybe that was the apple mac 2 ? not sure. also interesting that even then Steve jobs had an issue with people messing about with his hardware. even his employers thought he was a bit of a tight arse about it it seems.
@shayneoneill1506
10 жыл бұрын
Yep. It was all about that printer. Applewriters are (STILL) great printers. Old applewriters from way back then are still out there in perfect working order. They where built to last , and they had to work for that price too. But even the earliest macs coupled with a lazer printer turned the pair into a full blown desk top publishing system that could be used for commercial publishing, and they dominated that field, and for good reason, the combo made fantastic looking output, even by modern standards. They still do dominate the publishing and graphic arts field really.
@sorengrebs
10 жыл бұрын
i remember playing that game, that was some time ago
@damejelyas
6 жыл бұрын
thank you sir
@Scribblersys
10 жыл бұрын
So... what's in the Buffy binder?
@CrazyTobster
9 жыл бұрын
By 1986 we had one of these in our house, my Dad was given one so he could work from home, it was state of the ark and very much had the 'Wo factor' :-)
@CrazyTobster
9 жыл бұрын
Steve Jobs didn't like networking either. He said it was an "un-pure way of computing" - He believe in saving work on a disk and handing the disk to the next person. :-)
@Desmaad
9 жыл бұрын
Toby Whaymand He'd later change his tune, though: shortly after the release of the original Mac, he came up with his Big Mac concept which heavily involved networking. He was only able to realize it during the development of the NeXT Cube.
@abpccpba
10 жыл бұрын
Jobs went to Xerox Park and saw the origin windows machine running Small Talk the operating system; windows, mouse and network etc. from Xerox Park. In other words Mac was a basic copy of what he saw at Xerox. You can still find Small Talk now called E-toys; some of the most remarkable art you will ever use; Object Oriented - exp. each unit of the alphabet is an object. Take a look; will be worth your while.
@General1Cal
10 жыл бұрын
Hey I remember those macs in 88 maybe 90,... by 95 IBM had taken the net chatting up on yahoo color, html, and docs are common. html the good old days.
@Santreim
10 жыл бұрын
Can't stop reading Buffy Vampire Slayer on the background
@nriab23
10 жыл бұрын
My old school in 2005 had cupboard full of those damn things. Was actually allowed to take as many as I pleased but then I realised it couldn't do anything useful I never bothered.
@Fiyaaaahh
10 жыл бұрын
9:10 And it had a screensaver too!
@PuchMaxi
10 жыл бұрын
I noticed the XML and XPath books, I didn't spot any Python books though! ;)
@SuperFranzs
10 жыл бұрын
I love MS-DOS. i have it on my old,old,old toshiba laptop. i can play doom 1, on half-the-screen without lag
@ecdhe
8 жыл бұрын
The keyboard doesn't look like the original keyboard. As Steve Jobs always hated complex keyboards, that Mac 128K had no keypad nor arrow keys (you will notice the iPad lacks those as well). The arrow keys were added in subsequent versions of the Mac.
@OSX86Geek101
10 жыл бұрын
My dad had a Macintosh SE I used to play with. Eventually it broke, sadly.
@JackSassyPants
9 жыл бұрын
Did they ever unlock that Adobe Acrobat? I need to know.
@antiHUMANDesigns
10 жыл бұрын
I got an Amiga500 in 1986, and it was incredibly much better. Mac and PC could not match it.
@CharlesVanNoland
7 жыл бұрын
It's so friendly!
@woofer2121
10 жыл бұрын
buffy binder in the background?
@Roxor128
10 жыл бұрын
CRT flicker is unavoidable. You will never see a CRT screen without it, either on camera or in person.
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