Pirate: Give me your cargo! Me: Fine they're your problem now. Pirate: Wait no
@denverbeek
3 жыл бұрын
FEED THEM. THEY ARE HUNGRY.
@xblackdogrunsx
Ай бұрын
What's really funny is when you jettison all 792 slaves and the pods clank together... *boom* *kaboom* woops lost some credits
@julbot1
4 жыл бұрын
I think it's funny that you don't even need passenger cabins for Imperial Slaves. You can apparently just cram them into cargo containers.
@SporeFreak2010
4 жыл бұрын
Well, yeah, they're Cargo, cargo goes into the cargo hold. why would you store cargo in the economy class passenger cabins? makes no sense. :/
@esotericegoism7536
4 жыл бұрын
Figured they put them in storage
@SporeFreak2010
4 жыл бұрын
@@esotericegoism7536 yeah, they store them..in the cargo hold the place you store things. what is there a storage room compartment along with the cargo hold?
@Ethan-pb7vf
4 жыл бұрын
i wonder what 100 tonnes of slaves looks like
@Roodj1
4 жыл бұрын
What’s even better is most real life applications of cargo areas are depressurized sooo....
@Asghaad
4 жыл бұрын
i wonder if he realizes that trading "imperial slaves" to pirates means he transfers those poor sods from "type A" indentured servitude into hardcore "Type B" slavery ...
@DerAykac
4 жыл бұрын
He made that point.
@sanghelian
4 жыл бұрын
Especially when the imperial reasoning is that tve exact opposite, turning type b slaves to type a's is a win-win scenario for both the slaves and the empire.
@Splozy
3 жыл бұрын
They turn from men into women?
@kevinflaherty1
3 жыл бұрын
@@Splozy Trans-slave trade
@brentsims6218
4 жыл бұрын
My most morally repugnant action in elite: I was running a smuggling mission delivering slaves to a place I had never been before. I arrived at the Outpost and marvelled at is strange shape. It was a science Outpost, I had never seen one of those before. Wait... Why am I smuggling slaves to a science Outpost in an anarchy system on the fringe of the bubble!?!? "... GOOD LUCK FUCKERS!!" *Mission Complete*
@fileoffish1403
4 жыл бұрын
Brent Sims oh shit you just deliver a soon to be Frankenstein
@lazarusmagellan2367
4 жыл бұрын
Brent Sims they’ll become superhuman
@davidentz7440
4 жыл бұрын
Same thing with unlocking the engineer Ettienne Dorn in Colonia. He wants 25 occupied escape pods. What would a lonely engineer 22000Ly away from the bubble want with occupied escape pods? Who cares, here you go Ettienne, now give me my grade 5 light weight life support.
@varvarith3090
4 жыл бұрын
Class D personal.
@troybrice4531
4 жыл бұрын
@@davidentz7440 I knew he needed the life pods, but it wasn't till I actually got there that I read his little write up on it. Man that pissed me off. I couldn't bring myself to do it. The extra jumps / time it took me to get back to the bubble was not a problem for me as I had been out exploring the black before the guardian FSD was around, or before the Thargoids had invaded. That said before deep core mining became a thing, my largest trade transaction was from smuggling in a type 9 full of battle weapons to a prison in civil war. Lord of War ☠
@arrynroyce72
4 жыл бұрын
Imagine the pirates of elite looking for a graphic artist to design the decal they all share.
@stapleddominoes3326
4 жыл бұрын
@Queen Nidus there are books?
@Angelchaser29
4 жыл бұрын
Fun fact, if you turn off your life support with slaves in your cargo hold the game turns them into units of raw meat that you can sell
@RubixPsyche
3 жыл бұрын
Ah so we got cannibalism up in here as well
@fosty.
3 жыл бұрын
For real? I'm not evil enough to try it.
@traderofgoods6500
3 жыл бұрын
This isn't a fun fact. This Isn't A Fun Fact At All!
@Lukr4tive1008
3 жыл бұрын
Is it a fact? Sure, is it fun? Absolutely not!
@svenfricke2961
3 жыл бұрын
In Elite 2:Frontier, if you had no life support on your cargo room, the slaves you loaded at A arrived at B as Fertilizer.
@attacheli9591
4 жыл бұрын
Stellaris players: "First time?"
@Spootnik
3 жыл бұрын
Thinking back on it, it's crazy how many games I've played that feature slavery as a game mechanic in space. It's been a thing since the 90's at least and no one has any issues with it. I'm glad though since it's a great dark tint to a space setting.
@attacheli9591
3 жыл бұрын
@@Spootnik Of course, who would betray the God Emperor's wishes?
@dreadpirateted3827
4 жыл бұрын
I always laughed when I failed in saving all 8 hostages in a liberate mission. I accidentally kill the type 6 hauling them, with only like 5 hostages collected. You can't turn them in as a partial completion. My rational has been utterly awful sitting there back at the dock, pondering on what to do. "Maybe someone will find them" as I jettison them inside the hangar, ignoring the prompt informing they'll be destroyed. Or "hey, look I'm not going to kill you to save my conscience. Soooo, I guess I'll sell you on the black market. You're welcome."
@57thorns
3 жыл бұрын
Yes, that is a problem. I once happened upon six illegal escape pods at a ship crash site. So I left them there. Occasionally you have to to something in game and pretend it is something else because the game does not give you the options.
@SWIFTO_SCYTHE
4 жыл бұрын
3:16 "they wanted me to deliver these virgin slaves but they never said they had to ARRIVE as virgins" *headshaking and facepalm*
@willagrey7116
4 жыл бұрын
I almost fell out of my chair....
@JetHammer
4 жыл бұрын
yeah that was real bad lmfao. I had to pause.
@EvelynSobie
3 жыл бұрын
mega cringe even a year later
@wilkham2678
3 жыл бұрын
I laughed. I feel bad now.
@catbaux
4 жыл бұрын
Great video! My friends had a hard time getting into the roleplay aspect but I'm happy to see others embracing it. When I started, I worked primarily with the Diamond Frogs in Lan Wang. I would smuggle weapons to bring down "the man" but would never trade slaves - until I did a covert transportation mission in which I didn't notice the cargo was slaces until I was already handing it in. I broke my own moral code and in my anger, I lashed out - I took on an assassination mission of a local politician to clear my conscience but failed horribly. I was stuck in a prison 100ly away, the furthest I'd ever been, and used it as a opportunity to move on from working with slave trading thugs - even if I wasn't trading them myself, I was helping an evil that I couldn't agree with. After some me-time in the asteroid fields, I pledged myself to Winters and got to work fighting Torval to rid the galaxy of slavery. To make some side cash, I worked with Federal factions until they offered me a Specs Op job. It was good money so I took it on, not knowing the mission would be to destroy passenger liners from another Federal faction. Even the Feds weren't above taking innocent lives. I decided to get away from the corruption of the bubble. I decked out a Diamondback and set off for Colonia and beyond. Even though civilization is a cesspool now, maybe our colonys in the future will have a better chance of peace and fairness for all. Maybe I'll come back a better person with a clear mind of how I can improve our state of affairs - but for now, it's just me and the wonders of the galaxy. Fly safe, commanders o7
@Roodj1
4 жыл бұрын
Jake Butineau my CMDR is an explorer for the most part, or data deliveries. I make good money scanning systems sand selling that data.
@timesthree5757
4 жыл бұрын
I went to Calonia to bring the cesspool. Working to establish my own empire. Were every one is my serf. My dream is that no one even breathes without my consent. Then I will amass a fleet and conquer the Federation and Empire. I will make a Galactic Empire in my name. My will be done. My Empire. I am the Dark lord of the Sith!
@stanettiels7367
3 жыл бұрын
In my head, I’d pick up slaves and would keep them with me on exploration, you know, for company. They’d be partying on my Beluga at the bar and jacuzzi area (I’d even have Lavian Brandy, beer, tobacco, performance enhancers and food cargo so they wouldn’t run out.) I’d inspect the ship just before going home and if anyone burned any of my upholstery with cigarettes, I’d jettison them. All of them. There wouldn’t be any discussion about who burned the seats, they’d all be jettisoned (I run a tight ship). DO NOT mistake my hospitality for weakness, you ungrateful peasants. If they were respectful and didn’t damage anything, well at least I gave them the ride of their lives before being sold.
@tropper15
4 жыл бұрын
When i got my anaconda, i named it "zero value". I made the money to buy it by fitting a pirate python, blasting cargo ships's thrusters , and ripping out all their low temperature diamonds Then selling them to the black market. The income to buy that ship will never appear on any space tax documents, hence the name I did a small portion of slave trading with my conda, wasn't my thing. After using it for combat I modified it to be an armed miner/cargo ship, and thus has remained in that role.
@tropper15
4 жыл бұрын
I went from stealing diamonds to mining them myself thanks to the stolen goods
@pizza6383
4 жыл бұрын
@@tropper15 lol
@kubajackiewicz2
4 жыл бұрын
Me: i didn't trade slaves too much Also me: *checks stats for black market profits* ~ 380 milion earned from slavery
@troybrice4531
4 жыл бұрын
Haha I couldn't bring myself to run slaves. I had no problem however selling Type 9's full of battle weapons to anyone, even prisons.
@mjtechnoviking44
4 жыл бұрын
“Slave trading was a big part of my career” *fussy Aisling noises*
@useddentalfloss2484
4 жыл бұрын
No shame in Autodock. I'm lazy, so I use it all the time. Even though sometimes I do turn it off if I'm crunched for time, manual for me is still *faster*, but not necessarily *better*.
@DerAykac
4 жыл бұрын
Can´t agree more.
@drefk1973
4 жыл бұрын
three things I never use: Flight assist, auto dock and Solo play. I have no problem with others using it, but it's not for me
@user-jm8sy5ox2j
4 жыл бұрын
People give you trouble for using auto dock while they fly tiny ships around. Auto dock is almost required for those really large ships like the cutter, beluga, anaconda and corvette that barely fit through the mail slot
@Halinspark
3 жыл бұрын
@@user-jm8sy5ox2j I can get through the mail slot better than autodock usually can, but once I get to my pad I prefer to let autdock take over and put her down.
@lucasduque8289
3 жыл бұрын
I personally use auto dock for when I'm busy doing something else, like deciding the next station or system I'll jump to or checking if I have any bounties to claim at that system, stuff like that. While manual docking might be faster, it requires 100% of my attention, and it might be more productive to let it happen automatically while I do something else. But since launching is so fast, I never use auto launch anymore.
@innsj6369
4 жыл бұрын
I hauled imperial slaves one time, but it was too heavy on my conscience. I made my money using glitched skimmer and tourist missions, although those are a different moral dilemma entirely... I consider my character in Elite as someone who has made a transition, literally and figuratively. It's good in this game that you can make your own stories this way, I like reading other CMDR's personal stories.
@milanondrak5564
4 жыл бұрын
I made my Imperial rank doing combat and rescuing people from burning space ports in my Beluga, "Sarumo Kikara Ochiru". Also delivering tons of data.
@A_Simple_Neurose
4 жыл бұрын
@@milanondrak5564 I wish you knew Japanese, so that you could at least write that correctly in romaji.
@milanondrak5564
4 жыл бұрын
@@A_Simple_Neurose so do I. I only know little bits here and there but can only write phonetically.
@stanettiels7367
3 жыл бұрын
In my head, I’d pick up slaves and would keep them with me on exploration, you know, for company. They’d be partying on my Beluga at the bar and jacuzzi area (I’d even have Lavian Brandy, beer, tobacco, performance enhancers and food cargo so they wouldn’t run out.) I’d inspect the ship just before going home and if anyone burned any of my upholstery with cigarettes, I’d jettison them. All of them. There wouldn’t be any discussion about who burned the seats, they’d all be jettisoned (I run a tight ship). DO NOT mistake my hospitality for weakness, you ungrateful peasants. If they were respectful and didn’t damage anything, well at least I gave them the ride of their lives before being sold.
@morzanstormbringer7722
4 жыл бұрын
Saw some player eject slaves near Gidzenko Station in Charmunda. Was more impressed that the Space McDonalds had a working ice cream machine than the amount he spilled into space when he got a scan from me.
@Wanderer628
4 жыл бұрын
It'll be interesting how it will work when we have space legs. Any of the containers should have screams, begging and sobbing coming from inside that you hear when you walk past. I mean if you want to make money from the business you shouldn't hide away from the implications of it.
@DerAykac
4 жыл бұрын
That would be awsome (for my immersion).
@Sammie1053
3 жыл бұрын
Depends on the type though, right? Only if it's illicit slavery, not "Type A", as they know what they were getting themselves into and are basically on a Greyhound bus between jobs
@jonathanthompson4734
3 жыл бұрын
Shame there's no in ship space legs :|
@Koozomec
4 жыл бұрын
What did i think about slavery ? "Row,row, row the boat..."
@joyce_rx
4 жыл бұрын
o h.
@harrythebait9793
4 жыл бұрын
O h no
@wolfe8035
4 жыл бұрын
XD
@XenoZbornak
3 жыл бұрын
"Life is but a dream!"
@theorbificator4175
4 жыл бұрын
This is the kind of meta inuniverse commentary I wish there was more of.
@emiliouchila
4 жыл бұрын
i think it would be cool if you could free slaves. like take them to a refugee mega ship, or a station that helps slaves and I-slaves to achieve freedom.
@DerAykac
4 жыл бұрын
Sounds very awsome, though i would be on the other side of that spectrum (the one beeing hunted cause he trades slaves). There are so many ways to make our pirate lifes more miserabel and more fun at the same time, it baffles me they don´t implement such things.
@Wafrum
4 жыл бұрын
I think that is a brilliant idea!
@Halinspark
3 жыл бұрын
That would probably lead to being able to pirate ships like liners and cargo vessels and take slaves. People like having both good and bad options, after all.
@thatdarnskag5043
3 жыл бұрын
Imagine the gameplay opportunities. Interdicting slavers and forcing them to either jettison slave pods or trade for the slaves with commodities. Then players take the slaves to safe harbour. They could even make an event out of it for populating new star systems.
@DJB1ack0u7
3 жыл бұрын
@@thatdarnskag5043 Was just thinking that would make for some neat roleplay in open. You could also be morally questionable vigilantes who destroy ships with slaves in their cargo holds, claiming that the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few. If you want to fight slavery and still manage be the bad guys that is.
@AlexanderosD
4 жыл бұрын
I've yet to get into slave trade in ED. Character RP wise, I have no incentive to as a rogue, semi-Federation friendly scavenger. But I have read that it can be a lucrative and interesting business.
@VaeVictisXIII
4 жыл бұрын
If you want to go balls to the wall you can run it with a cutter for quite the tasty profit, just make sure to have your baller pilot cap on when you go through the letter box at 350 m/s xD
@harrythebait9793
4 жыл бұрын
I ran slave only one time.... That was when I first started We became friend I think Then I realized its illegal So I abandoned him in space Hahahaha Technically not a slave runner
@gibster9624
3 жыл бұрын
In the tv show Black Sails, there was a pirate Captain who was a former slave. At one point they hit a massive haul and needed a place to keep it safe. The nearby fort was the obvious choice but badly needed repairs. With so many on the island with stuffed pockets finding laborers to fix the fort was impossible. At one point the pirate captains closest friend had to make a hard choice and use slaves to fix the fort and lied by omission to the pirate captain about a certain ships who had precious cargo which ended up being full of slaves. One of my favorite parts of the entire show that really showed the complexity of morality that the character who despised slavery the most was put into an extremely tough position where he himself had to use slaves for labor. Important to note that they paid and freed those slaves and never even fixed the fort but instead converted a huge cache of gold into a more precious material that was easier to move and hide. I've wanted to model my commander after this captain and having the option to fight against slavery through multiple ways would be incredibly cool.
@souldry
4 жыл бұрын
I wish to fight the evil anti-slavers of the galaxy. They are a blight upon the glorious, humanitarian service I provide. People need people and I help them come together.
@DerAykac
4 жыл бұрын
You sound like you like Warhammer 40K :D
@souldry
4 жыл бұрын
Staubsaugore Oh no, I’ve been found out! :)
@tristansuarez-perez2346
4 жыл бұрын
I felt targeted when you said you could just launch slaves into the supermassive black hole cause I did exactly that during distance worlds 2; 32 metric tons worth of innocent people, locked up inside tiny canisters for months only to be dropped into a black hole, it was undoubtedly the most evil thing I’ve ever done.
@vampyr2936
3 жыл бұрын
This is a fun pass time Not for them, but definantly for me
@vehicleboi5598
3 жыл бұрын
9:14 “If you aren’t mature enough to understand that, I suggest you play in Solo.” me silently cackling in the distance
@risingsun9595
4 жыл бұрын
Oof, that ending is just brutal
@josephviselli1656
4 жыл бұрын
I earned my way to my first anaconda exclusively through slave trading. I have found however some cmdrs I have flown with in discord chats do not understand that you can be pro-slavery in game and anti-slavery out of it
@mbogucki1
4 жыл бұрын
I think it was Donald Winnicott who believed that in playing can people be entirely their true selves. Society is what puts checks on your everyday behavior. So based on that hypothesis you, my friend, are a monster. 😂
@josephviselli1656
4 жыл бұрын
@@mbogucki1How dare you call an honorary Imperial King a monster. Off with your head.
@DerAykac
4 жыл бұрын
@@mbogucki1 Then i gladly confirm: I am a monster too ;D
@Kontorotsui
2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, same here. I am a big fan of strategy games. Somehow some people can't understand that you can win WW2 with Germans and be proud of that, but be no Nazi.
@generichumanname2420
Жыл бұрын
they may not understand because you don't have to be the 'bad guy'.
@HumanityDisappoints
3 жыл бұрын
Dude the docking computer is bae. Let's me set my next point on the map while the game takes me in or out of port
@TheCaptainCrack
4 жыл бұрын
if that would make you a bad person anyone just barely touching GTA would turn into a demon
@StabbySabby
2 жыл бұрын
i only hauled imperial slaves once, and it was by complete accident, but i went on to travel halfway across the bubble to sell them at an imperial-controlled port under one of the imperial powers as for my takes on slavery in elite dangerous, i'm sure that the laws regarding imperial slaves don't affect you as they affect the TREATMENT of slaves, not the HANDLING of slaves, as you are merely a contractor transporting goods from one station to the next and not an end-user. I believe that when you, as a commander, are purchasing imperial slaves, you're not allowed to make use of them, you can only transport them and sell them to another market or deliver them to the customer that ordered them, this customer or market having gone through all the stipulations, regulations and paperwork required to be allowed to legally do this. that is the end-user is contractually obliged to respect the slave's rights, with immense financial and legal repercussions should those rights be infringed. if something happens in transit, it's circumstances that are outside of the customer's or seller's control and therefore cannot be enforced upon. Another set of legal rights i believe imperial slaves have is when their time of servitude is over and they can get into contact with the agency or company or whatever is the entity in charge of dealing with slaves, that entity is legally obligated to provide and pay for the transport of now former imperial slaves back to their respective homeworlds, or provide the funds to do so on their own or start a new life at their new world or even simply continue living with their owner.
@mbogucki1
4 жыл бұрын
I always have a hard time performing morally dubious actions in simulations. Be it Fallout or Mass Effect I end up feeling guilty performing what would be considered evil deeds in the real world. When I try to be a bad guy I just end up turning into, at most, an antihero. In the end, there is a hypothesis that the actions we take in a simulated world, one free of real-world consequences, is who we truly are as a person. 🤔
@boigercat
4 жыл бұрын
I think thats only true for individuals who cant emotionally disconnect from their in game actions. Like how you feel bad doing immoral things in game, there are definitely the opposite and then you have someone like Geist who can easily role play and decide what his characters should feel and then like a actor respond to situations by the rules set for your characters. Playing dnd for example, You basically get rewarded for playing your character by the personality set before the game started. That requires making on the spot choices that go against your true person.
@Hafer_
4 жыл бұрын
That hypothesis only works if you're unaware of it, your motives were corrupted the moment you read about it.
@stanettiels7367
3 жыл бұрын
In my head, I’d pick up slaves and would keep them with me on exploration, you know, for company. They’d be partying on my Beluga at the bar and jacuzzi area (I’d even have Lavian Brandy, beer, tobacco, performance enhancers and food cargo so they wouldn’t run out.) I’d inspect the ship just before going home and if anyone burned any of my upholstery with cigarettes, I’d jettison them. All of them. There wouldn’t be any discussion about who burned the seats, they’d all be jettisoned (I run a tight ship). DO NOT mistake my hospitality for weakness, you ungrateful peasants. If they were respectful and didn’t damage anything, well at least I gave them the ride of their lives before being sold.
@CountArtha
3 жыл бұрын
I honestly love the ethos of the Federation and it's "no free lunch" work ethic. The Empire always defends its slave trade in humanitarian terms as a "safety net" for poor and incompetent people, while a patriotic Federal citizen would just see Imperial Slaves as a bunch of beggars and parasites. I figure my character on Hackworth, who owns several ships and almost never loses money, would be contemptuous of these Imperial deadbeats who took the easy way out and sold themselves into slavery. He's probably glad to help them get the heck off the station where they are just taking up space and food and oxygen.
@Roodj1
3 жыл бұрын
I’ve avoided slavery because I didn’t understand it, but now I see 💰 in it lol. Will do it. Lol. Need me a bigger better ship then my type 6.
@ENCHANTMEN_
3 жыл бұрын
I'd like to note that in Imperial society, having a debt is considered dishonorable, so there's a massive social pressure to enter slavery if you have one you can't pay. Which I'd argue isn't voluntary at all, since not doing it will ruin your reputation.
@natalieclaire1063
3 жыл бұрын
8:50 if this was an intentional joke, youre horrible.
@vizender
3 жыл бұрын
My elite dangerous pilots history is one of a former slave, And joined the federation to escape it. He first concentrated on making as much money legally as possible, and his final objective is to fight back against the empire that still legalize slavery. He is full hardcore federation, with some ties with the alliance.
@magicstorm1
4 жыл бұрын
I just bought the game last week.Ehacatl,Leibig station is my home base too.
@ricardoallen786
4 жыл бұрын
had an anaconda, alot of fully upgraded medium sized ships, now I'm rockin an almost A spec corvette with multiple fully engineered modules. I've never been tempted to smuggle slaves, not even once. I've got over 1000 hours in the game.
@wenturbornethedragon3557
4 жыл бұрын
I've often pondered if slavery in a simulator was wrong. It really pulled at my conscience night after night. After watching this my conscience is clear thanks a million.
@ZAP0161
4 жыл бұрын
It tugged on my conscience too, until finally I achieved clarity and shot my philosophical views into a sock
@joyce_rx
4 жыл бұрын
Can you jetisson slaves from your ship? For educational purposes, of course.
@superyuuro2521
4 жыл бұрын
yes you can jetisson whiny passengers too!
@joyce_rx
4 жыл бұрын
@@superyuuro2521 Thank you >:)
@stanettiels7367
3 жыл бұрын
In my head, I’d pick up slaves and would keep them with me on exploration, you know, for company. They’d be partying on my Beluga at the bar and jacuzzi area (I’d even have Lavian Brandy, beer, tobacco, performance enhancers and food cargo so they wouldn’t run out.) I’d inspect the ship just before going home and if anyone burned any of my upholstery with cigarettes, I’d jettison them. All of them. There wouldn’t be any discussion about who burned the seats, they’d all be jettisoned (I run a tight ship). DO NOT mistake my hospitality for weakness, you ungrateful peasants. If they were respectful and didn’t damage anything, well at least I gave them the ride of their lives before being sold.
@drgoutbreak7934
2 жыл бұрын
I love how you have to put that disclaimer at the beginning jesus man
@ballzdeep6974
4 жыл бұрын
Im not a slave driver Im an uber driver
@tuhp5237
3 жыл бұрын
If they didnt want to be slave then they shouldnt have been so good at working
@davidbetters3458
2 жыл бұрын
I wanted to be a morally gray smuggler from the start, but I've roleplayed my way into essentially being an entirely amoral slaver. I even made my character look as repulsive as his trade, and the Keelback he flies has seen better days. I was able to finance a Krait MKII through buying illicit slaves for like 1700cr in one station and selling them to a military dictatorship colony in a neighboring system for 17,000cr a piece. I repeated that process until their entire stock of slaves was exhausted.
@nocturnal1970
3 жыл бұрын
Surely robot technology in this era should ensure human slaves are not required. I just bought this game, going to start on Friday with a new 4k TV. Elite was one of my favourite games for ZX Spectrum 48k back in the 80's, if the gameplay is excellent the graphics don't matter. Elite in simple vector graphics needed human imagination.
@adrian3482
4 жыл бұрын
It's nice to hear a story of people actually grinding to progress in this game. I unfortunately watched a get rich quick guide when I started out and had 1Bn in my first week of play. This is truly not a boast I really think I missed some interesting content.
@elloingo
3 жыл бұрын
We shouldn't question the morals of the princess building her anti-slavery base with slave labour, she was merely roleplaying as her commander
@airtylerb
4 жыл бұрын
I’m indifferent to slavery in the game, I don’t really support it, but at the same time it’s not worth it to me to go fight an all out war to end it. I’m selfish and focused on achieving my own goals, if that means every once in a while I need to make a slave run then eh, it’s their problem not mine.
@vampyr2936
3 жыл бұрын
Even as a Federation Rear Admiral I have to dabble occasionally to pay the bills
@lukalaa1764
3 жыл бұрын
This is a good point. personally I enjoy being a bad guy, or atleast an antihero in Elite. my initial start was purely in trading, before I could afford a cargo ship to transport slaves. after that? well, lots and lots of combat. not going after bounties, instead taking contracts in independent/pirate systems, take wetwork contracts etc and killing my way trought to a python
@OneBaldingWookiee
3 жыл бұрын
These endings man. Subtle and hilarious
@the_real_NYEH
3 жыл бұрын
I bought 15 Imperial Slaves and I was doing a courier mission and got interdicted next to a giant star, and my interdictor used hatch breakers on my cargo hatch and all of my cargo drifted toward the star, when I left I think he saved 3 of the slaves and the rest fucking vanished.
@thecrow4631
3 жыл бұрын
As a commander myself I am of the opinion that whatever makes the most money in the shortest time is what I'll do, if that means trading slaves so be it. At the moment though I engage in deep core mining as it is the most profitable activity.
@2ndsnake899
4 жыл бұрын
Archon Delaine: Geralt but with fat lips.
@DerAykac
4 жыл бұрын
Dude, i can not un-see that now. Thx, i hate it -.-*
@werre2
4 жыл бұрын
who cares it's all bits and most of us are slaves, we have to pay taxes
@c.j.dingus1261
4 жыл бұрын
Aight once I get enough dough transporting passengers and hauling cargo ima get involved in powerplay
@tomusmc1993
4 жыл бұрын
That is pretty solid. My CMDR is not beyond anything. He has fought pirates, saved systems security and helped poor backwards people stuck on a generation ship. He has even refrained from killing thargoids because well. . . No Thargoid has ever messed or bothered him. But.... he will engage in deceptive and unscrupulous behavior including black market slave trading. He is an "ends justify the means" kinda guy. He doesn't mess with anyone until they mess with him or his family/squadron and then well... stuff happens and gloves come off.
@Stoney3K
3 жыл бұрын
Slave trade? My go-to grind is a Keelback loaded with Cobalt in LTT 7768. Going back and forth between Kwolek Hub and Parise Gateway *in the same system* with over a million credits of profit each load. Can't get any easier than that.
@virtuouswanderer5563
3 жыл бұрын
Cam honestly say that I haven't ever intentionally broken the law in Elite never traded illicit goods or attacked anyone other than pirates and bounty targets. I made every credit to my name by doing hard honest work or exploring the galaxy. Sol to the Colsack. Colsack to the witch-head. Etc.
@TheBamaChad-W4CHD
Жыл бұрын
Spastic Gonad tackling big issues. Great video as always
@amesbrice
3 жыл бұрын
When the game first came out, slave trade was the Metta. Its not my fault Fdev made it the most profitable commodity. All the slaves i ejected into space is on me tho.
@roberth.5363
3 жыл бұрын
I only deal in Imperial Slaves. They volunteered. Regular Slaves...NO! Even in a video game I can not step over that line.
@ugli968
4 жыл бұрын
Remember those boiwaste missions back in the day? Lore has it those were failed experiments on slaves and you were hired millions to take them to willing stations.
@pruje
4 жыл бұрын
Been playing Elite Dangerous off and on since beta. I have the top ranks of both Empire and Federation. My character has never once willingly traded slaves. I think I did it once because an engineer mission required it. I can't role play a slaver. I kill them in every game that allows me to do so.
@shelbyseelbach9568
2 жыл бұрын
Not voluntarily? A mission required it? You didn't have to do the mission, you choose to voluntarily. You can lie to yourself, because you choose to believe it. I don't, so your lie is readily apparent!
@southernknight9983
4 жыл бұрын
Slavery is not evil. It's a viable institution and has its purpose in societies at large.
@user-qp4ru6el2s
3 жыл бұрын
That’s just being strategically viable, not morally good
@southernknight9983
3 жыл бұрын
@@user-qp4ru6el2s It is neither good, nor evil, for it can be used for good and can be abused. In Biblical times, it was a form of mercy, for a defeated people and integrating them into your own society, allowing them to live and continue their existence.
@user-qp4ru6el2s
3 жыл бұрын
@@southernknight9983 Bible says to “kill all boys, then all men, then all non-virgin women, leave the virgins for your own amusement” when you capture a city Not to mention in 3300, that’s not very needed to say the least.
@user-qp4ru6el2s
3 жыл бұрын
@@southernknight9983 it can be used for good purposes, but it’s like nuking a city: morally bad on it’s own, only can be saved with circumstances.
@southernknight9983
3 жыл бұрын
@@user-qp4ru6el2s Yes. Genocide was very normal back in those days. It's how people survived back then, by wiping out the enemy, entirely, so they can't do it back to you. To leave women and children alive, to fend for themselves, was a far more grueling death from starvation for there were no men to hunt and gather food for them. Slavery was thus, considered a merciful act of compassion for the survivors, integrating them into your own society. So you see, slavery can be a good thing. Slavery is just another tool for society, which , just like any other tool, can be used for good or bad things. Slavery in and of itself is not bad, nor evil. I am a little surprised at how some people think that it is evil, when it was completely normal, just a few hundred years ago, across the entire globe. Strange, isn't it?
@daveo2992
3 жыл бұрын
We need to start a new bubble on the complete otherside of the map where slavery is legal everywhere right now most of the factions outlaw slavery it's soo vanilla.
@milanondrak5564
4 жыл бұрын
I have achieved a multi billion bank balance and all my ranks without moving a single slave. I've emancipated slaves though. I role play an ex slaves son who emancipates slaves whenever he sees them in transit.
@VaeVictisXIII
4 жыл бұрын
The imperial might shall shackle you! *throws cutters in your general direction* - I used to RP as a bounty/slaver until I went 'legit' with mining before going straight back to it inside a glorious imperail Cutter, hard to hear 650 tons of slaves complaining when you're surrounded by such opulence!
@milanondrak5564
4 жыл бұрын
@@VaeVictisXIII I have a cutter I use to emancipate Slaves. Very pvp focused build, they usually drop their slaves for me to recover once their shields are destroyed if they attempt to fight. If they try to run I mass lock them until their thrusters are broken by savage weapons fire then emancipate their slaves. I don't sell the slaves, I release them at one of my factions stations where they are assisted with finding their family and are helped to get a start in society as a free person. I don't shoot to kill, I want the slaves to live. Until quite recently I had 14,000, 000 cr bounty on me but it was claimed by another commander when I lost to him in a consentual duel to the death against his cutter. It was a close fight, the other Cdr had 13% Hull and no canopy by the time I exploded spectacularly.
@stanettiels7367
3 жыл бұрын
I’d pick up slaves and would keep them with me on exploration, you know, for company. They’d be partying on my Beluga at the bar and jacuzzi area (I’d even have Lavian Brandy, beer, tobacco, performance enhancers and food cargo so they wouldn’t run out.) I’d inspect the ship just before going home and if anyone burned any of my upholstery with cigarettes, I’d jettison them. All of them. There wouldn’t be any discussion about who burned the seats, they’d all be jettisoned (I run a tight ship). DO NOT mistake my hospitality for weakness, you ungrateful peasants. If they were respectful and didn’t damage anything, well at least I gave them the ride of their lives before being sold.
@remo8573
4 жыл бұрын
Very cool content, listened to this as I made some runs around the galaxy myself. Thank you :).
@rockroc1
3 жыл бұрын
My character is an Imperial Trader based out of Achenar. As long as it's legal in our systems I'm going to make those credits. But honestly even I don't like Zemina Torval.
@LordMoebius
4 жыл бұрын
I don't think selling yourself into slavery can be considered any sort of safety net, least of all from poverty. That seems more like an oversight by the devs or in lore, a dirty euphemism used by imperials to diminish what would actually happen, history tells another story of how slaves are usually treated. Working as a slave I can't imagine how you'd be able to rebuild your life easily, I would imagine slaves would have the same difficulties rebuilding their lives, that actual slaves had in the real world, using the states as a real world example( post civil war). Or, would encounter similar problems former prisoners face today, reintegrating into society after paying their debt. Sex slaves today (even in the US) face similar difficulties and hopelessness when it comes to escaping slavery or paying back their "debtor". You'd basically have to start with nothing again. I don't imagine you would be able to keep your job, home, possessions after becoming a slave, especially after being removed from where you live and being shipped to somewhere else in the galaxy, with no money and no contacts, possibly not even speaking the same language when you get to wherever your pilot/slaver took you . We haven't even considered the racial and ethnic implications here (notice the galaxy seems to have very few black people in charge with no black power players and only one black engineer). Slavery tended to fall toward ethnic divisions to determine who was a slave and who wasn't. Who was allowed to be the master and who was the servant usually had some foundations in race and ethnicity, and other racist bullshit. Also can't imagine most slaves being treated "nicely" given the countless examples you gave of them being treated as equivalent to cargo. Personally I find slavery morally abhorrent and won't ever touch them in game EVER. Too many other easy ways to make money. I won't even fuck with Etienne since I don't know what the fuck he's doing with those occupied escape pods. Slavery's inclusion in Elite is sorta disgusting, especially since the moral opposite of freeing slaves isn't presented as a mission or activity type and the pilot is super far removed from the realities of it, turning them into an item on a manifest. It seems like a missed opportunity by the devs. You engage with power play, but you can't setup an underground railroad. You can't buy slaves to set them free somewhere else. Even if it is a game, it's still gross, especially the way people joke and fantasize about it... But I guess that's more telling of the people playing and the choices they would make given the opportunity. There are quite a few studies in ethics linking peoples play style in games reflecting their level of ethics in every day life. One example looked at ceos and other executives cheating in games such as golf or squash and exhibiting similar behaviors in the work place, lying or significantly embellishing their job applications, or using deception and manipulation in the work place to get ahead, more so their those that didn't choose to cheat. So not entirely sure if in game behavior and rational is too dissimilar from the choices people make in everyday life. Not saying that everyone who picks the robber would necessarily go out and rape, murder and steal, but when tested and presented with ethical dilemmas I wonder what they'd probably choose, especially with smaller situations where they might be able to act with some degree of impunity. The sandbox in Elite is interesting, especially with regards to the ethical and moral implications its presents but with alot of issues in game, Frontier doesn't seem to look at them too deeply. I think if they did they'd really have something special, especially if CMDR's were confronted more with the morality of their decisions and we got to see the human costs and scale of things in the universe. Maybe one day if we get space legs we'll be able to get more up close and personal with the universe and people can reconsider the stories the want to tell in game.
@squirrellordsgaming2772
4 жыл бұрын
Didn't touch the slave trade myself, started off as a bounty hunter, then an antisocial explorer addicted to caffeine and distracted by shiny planets and multiple alien ruins, then became a miner till my pilot had more money then what to do with, then became a mentor to a new commander, and ranked up in both Federation and Empire. During all that time, my Avatar changed between a middle aged man, and middle aged woman multiple times, so I guess my commander has kept the sex-change surgeon of the future very busy and very well paid.... Not sure what's going on in my commander's mind, but I'll just roll with it I guess... Not sure I want to know what my commander does in the cokpit while I'm logged out.... I blame a middle-aged life identity crisis. that's why I think my commander got the Pilots Federation License in the first place....
@VaeVictisXIII
4 жыл бұрын
I use to run slavery missions years ago when I started, though never seem to see them on mission boards anymore, and was how I made my mark on the galaxy xD
@jorgejuanazpeitiadelpozo533
3 жыл бұрын
I just mine Asteroids don't have feelings so yeah
@xKumata
4 жыл бұрын
This dude just said "papaya scrolls" instead of "papyrus scrolls"
@SepulcherGeist
4 жыл бұрын
I was hungry
@xKumata
4 жыл бұрын
@@SepulcherGeist replying to comments on a 6 month old video.. you sir have just gained a sub! Most creators don't even read their comments :p
@herpnderpn2484
4 жыл бұрын
Morality? I was upset the first time I had the credits to buy a cargo hold full of slaves, and then I find out that the station the had a "demand" for slaves neither had a black market or wanted to buy them legally. So here I am with a cargo hold full of slaves and can't find a place to sell them. I ended up taking a loss when I sold them. I was just ready to be done. I would deal in what ever is most profitable, oddly enough, that was Wine. Found one outpost that would buy for like 6500 credits. I would make like 6100 per ton on a run that took one jump. That's how I bought my type 6.
@vercoda9997
4 жыл бұрын
With apologies to our ancient ancestors here in Ireland (not many people know that the Irish - well, the Celts, well, the people who were here before the Celts and the Romans and the Normans and the Anglo-Saxons - were also regularly grabbed and sold as slaves; even St Patrick, the patron saint of Ireland, was originally a slave, from Wales), thanks for flagging where’s a great place to sell slaves from! Let’s go! Anyway, maybe they’re all just Wage Slaves like the rest of us - I don’t know that they’re Not - in which case I’m an intergalactic... bus driver. Great. Perhaps I’m ferrying the galaxy’s McJobbers around in a vast gig economy, from one tedious atmospheric plant-painting or catering gig to another. Time to go and bring joy to the masses - or the masses to the joyless McWork that they’re perhaps going to...
@patshea9043
3 жыл бұрын
Tbh people can get all in there feelings if they want, but tbh slavery absolutely will waaay more prevalent if and when humans reach space
@patshea9043
3 жыл бұрын
Like fully live In space
@blargiefarg93
4 жыл бұрын
Currently you're tied with the pilot as my favourite elite youtuber. Honorable mention to down to earth engineering
@lazygizmo
3 жыл бұрын
Morality of the Slave Trade Smugglers: Haha people go cha ching!
@doormaat5033
3 жыл бұрын
what do you have on the other modules of the ship? you only showed optional internal
@benni1015
4 жыл бұрын
Just asking, slaves are in the cargo space. Can you throw them out of your ship into interstellar space ?
@Soulman999999
4 жыл бұрын
Yes
@stanettiels7367
3 жыл бұрын
I’d pick up slaves and would keep them with me on exploration, you know, for company. They’d be partying on my Beluga at the bar and jacuzzi area (I’d even have Lavian Brandy, beer, tobacco, performance enhancers and food cargo so they wouldn’t run out.) I’d inspect the ship just before going home and if anyone burned any of my upholstery with cigarettes, I’d jettison them. All of them. There wouldn’t be any discussion about who burned the seats, they’d all be jettisoned (I run a tight ship). DO NOT mistake my hospitality for weakness, you ungrateful peasants. If they were respectful and didn’t damage anything, well at least I gave them the ride of their lives before being sold.
@SDM09Tiny
4 жыл бұрын
I managed to explore the vastness of the void without ever finding an imperial system for 2 years... Ive heard people throw around the term slaves and whatnot before but ive never bothered to listen in. only recently have I found an imperial system and finally see them on the legal market... I was shocked and disgusted... decided it better to leave before doing something I'd regret. Left with an Imperial Eagle to leave a good name and ventured off in a paper plane for the rich, only to do the most savage thing imaginable, hunt...
@Anarchy_And_Bacon
3 жыл бұрын
Nothing says black market trading like the screams of the 752 slaves in my cargo hold frying as i turn on silent running and barely get my type 9 through the mail slot at 180km/hr
@darthkillerhog
2 жыл бұрын
lol
@hollywoodundead1010
4 жыл бұрын
Man I love RP people put into this game and the variety of stories is amazing. I started the game as the first person from an earth like planet and it’s the first “warp” capable ship. So I named it Phoenix #startrek n have been exploring the system hoping to find an energy source that will help end the resource wars happening on my planet.
@captiancholera8459
3 жыл бұрын
While I understand it's a game I refuse to trades slaves considering my ancestors (relatively) recently were. Also RP reasons but mostly the latter.
@kingplayze914
3 ай бұрын
"Cargo hold at maximum capacity"! lol.
@sv7017
4 жыл бұрын
3:13 lol that joke worked on me.
@suavevalen
4 жыл бұрын
abomination thy name is slavery, and imperial slavers will always be targeted and eliminated
@CMDRunematti
4 жыл бұрын
this game needs a good scripting system to create fast and easy things like actually hearing their streams and banging in your ship... it's obvious, from that canonn incident that scrotum anything must be an enormous work for them
@RandomPerson-tc8pj
3 жыл бұрын
Well imp slaves are illegal in LTT 8456 and the black-market prices are below the prices at Hackworth
@VanuOfMILF
3 жыл бұрын
I frequently buy slaves, just to blow them out the cargo hatch right outside a star's exclusion zone.
@darthkillerhog
2 жыл бұрын
Lol nice thats the spirit!
@johnnyhshify
4 жыл бұрын
Form a unit hunting slave owners.
@silvercat18
4 жыл бұрын
They may even be eaten, or stranger things like being made into living art.
@Drescher1984
3 жыл бұрын
Landing on your own, pff, that's for when you got to close to a star or when you bounced of a planet and damage your ship computer.
@AmbroseBoaBowie
3 жыл бұрын
I’m going more for the boba fett style. Profit is profit but I’m not going to jettison some one into a super nova you maniac!
@ratatoskt.silent3274
4 жыл бұрын
No slaves for me, random gta5 killings weren't for me either, and the single player interactive torture scenes even put me off finishing that game. That said, shocking the captured spy a couple of times, back in one of the WoW WotLK quests wasn't exactly hard to get through.
@hermaeusmora345
4 жыл бұрын
I've made Billions of Credits via Slave Trading. One time I even had to Dump 700+ Slaves. Oops.
@dizzyallen1481
3 жыл бұрын
I just restarted my career and was just wondering which power to pledge to, (first time pledger) I was gonna pledge to the dude against slavery but once I saw your vid i wanted to make sure there wasnt any legit reason for there to be slavery in elite. Now I think I can definitely say im ready to fight slavery. Haha.
@samspenceley6374
4 жыл бұрын
Dude please keep making these videos. I'm a returned noob to Elite and your videos have made me excited about the game again with your insight, intelligence and love for the game. Thank you
@magburner
4 жыл бұрын
It is a game, they are not real people, so pack them in for the profit.
@user-qp4ru6el2s
3 жыл бұрын
People judging you and even trying to hunt you down as a slaver will also be doing it in a game-unless they’re harassing you in real life, that is indeed retarded, exclude em-and all consequences will also be only in the game where you’ll get your ship destroyed
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