Errata: - The battle map is now available digitally when you purchase this supplement. - Moria is featured in the first LotR film. - The skeleton outside of Balin's tomb in the movie is Ori's skeleton. Balin's skeleton is INSIDE the tomb, of course! - Durin's kin were the "Longbeards," not the "Longbeard elves"! Support the channel by joining my Patreon! www.patreon.com/thaumavore Sign up for my newsletter! bit.ly/ThaumavoreNewsletter
@arsenikritchever501
8 күн бұрын
Thanks for the heads up about it being digitally available! I had pledged for physical and digital copy during the Kickstarter and received both but have not received any notifications about the digital battle map being available.
@BrewerMeister
8 күн бұрын
Hey, the Moria scene is featured on the SECOND disc of the first movie on the extended edition dvds/Blu Rays, so you were partially correct :P
@DaveThaumavore
8 күн бұрын
@@BrewerMeister sure👍, I’ll take it
@davidbudzik5970
8 күн бұрын
Correction: Moria was in the first LOTR film.
@DaveThaumavore
8 күн бұрын
Thanks. I've added that to the pinned comment.
@johnschwartz1641
8 күн бұрын
First film, and first volume, but weirdly the second book.
@DaveThaumavore
8 күн бұрын
@@johnschwartz1641 thank you. That’s the reason I made the mistake. I’ve been re-reading the books and then misremembered how they organized it in the films.
@andyn2854
7 күн бұрын
@@DaveThaumavoreAlso second disc of the extended edition.
@JB-gj8pu
8 күн бұрын
Tolkien often wrote his stories like how we play RPGs. He started with a vague notion of Middle-Earth and would discover what was in it by writing the adventure chapter by chapter. "But I met a lot of things on the way that astonished me. Tom Bombadil I knew already; but I had never been to Bree. Strider sitting in the corner at the inn was a shock, and I had no more idea who he was than had Frodo. The Mines of Moria had been a mere name; and of Lothlorien no word had reached my mortal ears till I came there." - J.R.R. Tolkien - Letter to the Poet W.H. Auden
@quickattackfilms7923
7 күн бұрын
That’s awesome
@frankrafaelsen7260
8 күн бұрын
This might be the best setting book ever published for a rpg. It is that good.
@HeilSol
6 күн бұрын
even better than the "Forgotten Realms campaign setting" ? Hard sell, but I'm buying this anyway.
@scottwarren3948
6 күн бұрын
@@HeilSolnow we're talking
@DeadMarsh
8 күн бұрын
Best ttrpg reviewer on KZitem. Hands down. Absolute quality and detail.
@EpicBubbleSA
8 күн бұрын
Love freeleague's One ring stuff, the shire suppliment is still such a cosy world building book. Just a correction the mines were in the first movie.
@DaveThaumavore
8 күн бұрын
Thanks. I've added that to the pinned comment.
@obadiah_v
Күн бұрын
Still waiting for mine to arrive, so I am vicariously living through your review. Thank you
@jacobgerhard9525
8 күн бұрын
My first ttrpg delve into moria was MERP moria by I.C.E I picked up dwarowdeep along the way but man is that overwhelming. After your review I think I'm ready to brave what lays beyond Durin's gate again. Thank you!!
@jasonnewell7036
7 күн бұрын
Seriously, I adore the feel of the One Ring books.
@Flint138
7 күн бұрын
@DaveThaumavore - you are a pro. Thank you. Because of your reviews I am running Ruins of Symbaroum with Shadowdark combat mechanics for my next campaign and will likely purchase this to incorporate the Delving-Travel rules. Thank you for everything!
@samdoorley6101
7 күн бұрын
Thanks for the analysis Dave, I this was already on my list of things to pick up (I mean, the OG mega dungeon, how could it not be?). But after your review it's been bumped to the top of my list. Free League just keeps hitting homers.
@carltonbauheimer
8 күн бұрын
The map of Moria is so gorgeous I'm tempted to buy this even though I dont play the LotR rpg. I'll find some way to run players through it with something else.
@DaveThaumavore
8 күн бұрын
It's a triumph indeed.
@haukionkannel
3 күн бұрын
The whole book looks really nice! So it is a trasure to a Tolkien fan! And Yeah, the map is not too bad neither… 😊
@ChrisChapmanIAm
7 күн бұрын
Fantastic review - I backed the book and it is just as you describe. I think it the best supplement that Free League has published for ToR 2e to-date.
@Inuruk
8 күн бұрын
I have the collectors edition version and its absolutely gorgeous. Definitely moved to the top of my list of games I want to run
@RPGTherapist
6 күн бұрын
TOR is easily my favourite RPG. I'm a huge Tolkien nerd, and anything that lets me delve into that world is guaranteed to grab me by the throat. And the MAPS!!!! @DaveThaumavore, PLEASE tell me you got the cloth map?! So, so horny! I actually did a 'review' of TOR over on my channel (which you encouraged me to start, so thank you so much🙏), and I may or may not have gone a bit overboard on how much I love the cartography in these games. So beautiful. Thanks as usual for all your work, Dave ❤
@Dre2Dee2
2 күн бұрын
Honestly what I think would be SUPER cool: Run the mines of Moria as a solo-campaign during Balin's expedition. However it ends, it ends (even if that means my PC ends up dying) THEN run it later as a DM for my playgroup. They'll be entering the mines at a way later point, and who knows! They might come across some of the old gear, artifacts or even skeleton PC left behind 😂
@Etlelele
7 күн бұрын
When searching for a location, the heroes can repeat the Scan roll as many times as they wish, so they're never locked out. They just suffer a journey event every time they do.
@DaveThaumavore
7 күн бұрын
@@Etlelele yes.
@ChonmageXIV
8 күн бұрын
Great video! First you make me buy Forbidden Lands and now The One Ring 😛 I've been having a blast solo exploring the forbidden lands, and I am sure I will have equally fun exploring Moria.
@jasonandkrishandy-kraus123
7 күн бұрын
Great review of a magnificent book. Thanks, Dave!
@ambrosius
7 күн бұрын
Wish that this book would’ve come with some pre-written adventures. Sadly don’t have much time to sit and prep an adventure, and it’s really hard to do well. The book is gorgeous though.
@paulwest8575
2 күн бұрын
Nicely done Dave. Regarding the logistics angle I had a bit of inspiration. How about using the "scarcity" element we agree exists as a positive for the GM and players? In other words, the Orc Clans have their own troubles with food (despite the cannibalism present). I think a GM could figure out a way to create a schedule of sorts where provisions ebb and flow; when they ebb, the clans have more troops out foraging and less within KD, this flows the other way when enough provisions make it back to Moria, but it is short-lived. Lots more to ponder in furtherance here, but I think it would allow a more believable setting with a TOR group of 4-6 exploring Moria without the ever-present threat of being completely overwhelmed by Orcs. Just food for thought.
@misterballista
7 күн бұрын
Best RPG reviews on KZitem
@WombatProphecy
6 күн бұрын
I love the collectors edition, it looks so ominous. Sets the tone for players when they see me take it out
@margaritoamapolo4891
8 күн бұрын
Great review! congrats!
@DaveThaumavore
8 күн бұрын
Thanks!
@Mytholder
8 күн бұрын
Thank you for the review!
@DaveThaumavore
8 күн бұрын
My pleasure!
@MrElliptific
7 күн бұрын
It's pretty easy. Anything produced by Free League or Chaosium goes automatically on the spend radar.
@jasonnewell7036
7 күн бұрын
Fortunately for our group, the hardcore Tolkien fan (me) is the one who runs the game
@haukionkannel
3 күн бұрын
Same here! But still it is worth of it! It is nice to be the guide to players in the Tolkiens world.
@jasonnewell7036
21 сағат бұрын
@@haukionkannel I just got mine yesterday, and heartily agree.
@rontalkstabletop
8 күн бұрын
2:24 THAT'S HOW I RUN COMBAT IN THE ONE RING!
@SilencedScream0
6 күн бұрын
I could absolutely see a campaign here where you are part of Balin’s five year occupation, being sent in for intelligence gathering and trying to stir up trouble between the Orcs so that the clans fight amongst themselves (in the style of Shadow of Mordor), with the campaign possibly ending at the last stand, where Balin (and the party) die epically. Give the players the meta moral choice - do they stay, knowing (like their characters) that it means death, or do they save themselves and flee?
@DaveThaumavore
6 күн бұрын
@@SilencedScream0 this guy Morias.
@RyanoftheNorth
8 күн бұрын
Excellent video and overview of Moria! It is definitely a gem and definitely a labour of love for Gareth Hanrahan, the lead writer, and of course for Francesco et al. For those unfamiliar on how to use the Combat Diagram... I do a overview on how to use the map here: kzitem.info/news/bejne/mneDmZ-ZipZ2eKA It's very similar to how Professor Dungeon master uses his Ultimate Dungeon Terrain!
@QuestingBeast
7 күн бұрын
Nice shirt Dave
@DaveThaumavore
7 күн бұрын
‘Tis indeed, brother.
@opscontaylor8195
8 күн бұрын
I am adapting those token concepts to Tales of the Valiant to allow for no-map/narrative play easier, while still accounting for most of the 20 Framework combat rules. I love those things. More games should do that.
@DenimEyez
8 күн бұрын
Which tokens do you mean? Can‘t find them in the vid
@schemage2210
6 күн бұрын
Looks like another incredible Free League product, but have got to say, this one is so extraordinarily niche I doubt I would have use of it in the rest of my TTRPG life. LotR gaming groups are probably rare enough, but this isn't even the type of product that I could steal from for other homebrew considering how hyper specific it is to the setting and to that one location.
@Runehammer1
7 күн бұрын
it’s god level
@DaveThaumavore
7 күн бұрын
@@Runehammer1 100%
@mau915
6 күн бұрын
Thank you for reviewing this book! I'd also be very interested in seeing a comparison of the LotR books, or really all TOR content. As an aside: the dwarf whose skeleton is shown in the movie, clutching the book, is not Balin. Balin had already died at this point and was entombed there, so this dwarf was leaning against Balin's tomb in death. But still this dwarf is an old acquaintance, namely Ori, the scribe, who was also part of Oakenshield's company in The Hobbit and featured in the movie alongside Balin and the other dwarves.
@DaveThaumavore
6 күн бұрын
@@mau915 yeah someone beat you to it. The errata is in the pinned comment.
@nutherefurlong
5 күн бұрын
This looks pretty great. Has me wondering how Moria was handled in prior editions/ rules, like MERP. Looks like they were very smart about how to tackle it in this one... minus maybe the stat-check-for-content. I guess it feels good if you make the roll, but maybe better to add an extra clue on a roll to justify having the stat, but not obscure it otherwise? I'm not as familiar with this version of LOTR, though what I've seen of the company's own rules it seems pretty sharp. Something that came to me as I was watching, since the creature variety leans on Orcs, but it's like... a lot of different types, with a smattering of weirder things, I admire the restraint in settings like this, rather than to make every room a carnival attraction. I also feel like D&D could learn from the survival roll feature to justify class differentiation, but that's me. It's funny that with all the creations in fantasy that stemmed from LOTR, going back to the source still engages the imagination
@kadeshaderow
6 күн бұрын
12:00 If you're not into Orc-slaying you probably aren't going to have much fun playing The One Ring
@carltonbauheimer
8 күн бұрын
Oh snap solo adventure? Maybe I'm getting it after all.
@IanBoyte
6 күн бұрын
And purchased.
@dovesk1
8 күн бұрын
Moria was the inspiration for the 'dungeons' in D&D in the first place
@claudiaborges8406
7 күн бұрын
11:20 on your video about the one ring you said it was just a narrative scene, but the book implies that you’ll be “hunted” and that could mean a literal hunt or a disastrous event happening to your party (literally like those examples in this book)
@Smittumi
8 күн бұрын
Lol, I enjoy Rings of Power... but I know it's just me and about three other people.
@DaveThaumavore
8 күн бұрын
@@Smittumi There are tens and tens of you out there I’m sure.
@Smittumi
8 күн бұрын
@@DaveThaumavore😂😂😂
@davidbeer5015
8 күн бұрын
Same. Though I’m sure There’s more of us than social media would seem to suggest.
@gabrielconroy3631
3 күн бұрын
Tolkien fans of ROP outnumber the haters, the haters are just louder 🤷♂️
@swordsnstones
8 күн бұрын
was looking into this one as well, possible next purchase to mine for session ideas :)
@michaelmullenfiddler
8 күн бұрын
Durin's "kin" were the Long Beard "Elves"!? Either Free Leagues made a hilarious mistake, or you did. Lol. Be that as it may: great video for an excellent product
@DaveThaumavore
8 күн бұрын
lol, my mistake.
@Hjerrick
8 күн бұрын
Pretty sure Balin is laying in the sarcophagus that the skeleton holding the book of mazarbul is leaning up against. I guess that still makes him a skeleton, but not a skeleton the fellowship actually sees
@DaveThaumavore
8 күн бұрын
Cool, yeah.
@kryptonianguest1903
8 күн бұрын
Good catch!
@Inuruk
8 күн бұрын
Yeah, Ori is the dwarf holding the book while Balin is inside the tomb
@DaveThaumavore
8 күн бұрын
@@Inuruk Good to know. I've added this to the pinned comment.
@Inuruk
8 күн бұрын
@@DaveThaumavoreregardless of lore minutiae, love the video, always love to see a lotr fan talking about an lotr product and if I didn't already have the book, this would've convinced me to get it!
@SlightlyTallerHalfling
4 күн бұрын
I need a new library.
@radelc
8 күн бұрын
Preach on RoP. Such a shame. Love these books so much though. Ty for covering it.
@johnberry5296
8 күн бұрын
Came here for the solo mode, maybe someone will do a more in depth view. Good video, though, thanks very much😊
@LupusLore-l5c
8 күн бұрын
As far as the food and logistics are concerned i wouldn't be surprised if the three factions where constantly fighting each other. Since orcs will eat literally any meat whatsoever it probably is a case of surviving off cannabilism and whoever ventures down.
@DaveThaumavore
8 күн бұрын
And what of the ordure most foul?
@LupusLore-l5c
8 күн бұрын
I would imagine that the lower class orcs would be forced to clean it. Tolkien once described orcish military as much more structured then one would believe. I don't think it would be impossible to say that they have dung scrapers. It's also quite possible they throw it in underground streams Wich is why you can get sick so easily from the water.
@DaveThaumavore
8 күн бұрын
@@LupusLore-l5c This makes sense!
@dane3038
8 күн бұрын
That's a little too much dungeon for me but I'd still like to have this because Free League is pretty good to pick at for stuff to drop in my world / system.
@normalusername5223
8 күн бұрын
surely you mentioned the wrong LOTR film having moria was a means to drive engagement from nerds unable to resist hitting you with a "well actually"
@BrewerMeister
8 күн бұрын
Well ACTUALLY *adjusts glasses*, the Moria scene was present on the second disc on the extended edition of The Fellowship of the Ring. So, he was almost correct, lol
@armorman55
23 сағат бұрын
1:30 that is one thicc boi
@Old_Wizard_Minis
8 күн бұрын
Hmm I wonder which version would be easier to convert to Shadowdark?
@benjaminalexander7028
8 күн бұрын
I haven’t looked at it in depth, but I would imagine the 5e version because the stats will be more similar. That being said, you’ll have to do some work regardless, and I would just use the provided stats as guidelines for remaking monsters and treasure anyway. Calculated conversions never work exactly as intended, and if you’re familiar with the game you’re converting from and to, you’ll intuitively have a good feeling for how to represent the thing you’re converting in your target system.
@Old_Wizard_Minis
8 күн бұрын
@@benjaminalexander7028 thanks. That was basically what I was thinking. I have a smattering of both system's books one ring and lotrrpg. However I want to transition to just one system. Since I'm probably going to have to do conversion anyway to SD. I'm leaning toward one ring now. That way I have a completely different system to play.
@haukionkannel
3 күн бұрын
The one Ring system is really thematic, so if you want to go Middle-Earth one Ring rpg is the way to go! The D&D is D&D and the system does not feel Middle-Earth.
@juauke
8 күн бұрын
Great inclusion of 2 ribbons Are there other Free League products which include ribbon bookmarks? For instance, I know Into the Odd Remastered unfortunately doesn't (in its current print run)
@juauke
8 күн бұрын
Might get into the One Ring 2E RPG one day
@opscontaylor8195
8 күн бұрын
Depends on the line, but a lot of their stuff includes at least one ribbon bookmark. More common with the acid free not magazine paper books, seems like (One Ring, Forbidden Lands) though ALIEN also has a single ribbon (at least my copies, seems they stopped that in ALIEN with Building Better Worlds though).
@juauke
8 күн бұрын
@@opscontaylor8195 oh I see, thanks for the information Which Forbidden Lands hardcovers come with one? Do the ones in the boxed set (normal? Collector?) come with one?
@opscontaylor8195
8 күн бұрын
@@juauke Mine did. 4th or 5th printing.
@juauke
8 күн бұрын
@@opscontaylor8195 okay thanks, that's cool 😊
@karlranseier6885
7 күн бұрын
Argh, I can’t buy another rpg I probably will never run.
@hoodieinfestation
3 күн бұрын
I’ll definitely never run it but the core collector’s edition is so nice looking on my gaming shelf. I can’t bring myself to trade it.
@Joshuadmathews
7 күн бұрын
Question about solo mode in 5e and TOR, is this information relatively the same information or are there differences between solo mode for 5e and solo mode for One Ring? Finally, are the gist of the information in Strider mode reprinted and expanded upon in these solo rules? Thanks.
@jeffkenamon1806
7 күн бұрын
To my knowledge, TOR hasn’t made a Strider Mode for the 5e version. Not sure if they’re planning on it. I haven’t managed to play solo mode in any rpg yet but I’ve been trying to read about how to do it. Mainly because I rarely get to play or even GM much these days. But upon reading Strider Mode, if you’re relatively familiar with 5e rules you should be able to somewhat modify TOR rules to 5e. Of course, TOR has a very different approach to running the game than 5e, so you’d need to understand what the writers were seeking to achieve in Strider Mode. Things like allowing your solo character to be a bit tougher than usual (probably easiest to do by starting at a level other than 1st), cutting down on the number and power of enemies and/or giving your solo character a boost when it comes to hitting DC’s. On the other hand, the addition of a new fighting stance in TOR version doesn’t translate very well to 5e.
@shawntomkin
6 күн бұрын
The solo rules in Moria offer a couple of things. Firstly, they provide basic solo tools, largely repurposed from Strider Mode. Secondly, they include new procedures and systems for managing a band of dwarven allies during Balin's campaign to reclaim Moria. The second part is the bulk of material, since there are new procedures for generating your band of allies, managing them on missions, leading them in battle, etc. The Moria solo rules are included in both the ToR and 5e versions of the book, with minor changes as needed to adapt to the different systems. They are 90% identical.
@Joshuadmathews
6 күн бұрын
@@shawntomkin thanks Shawn! I kickstarted the original One Ring and have the pdf of the Strider mode, but prefer physical copies so really never viewed it. I own both the core for One Ring and 5e, but was wondering which one to purchase for Moria or if to purchase both (the solo rules being a main draw for me to get the book). Thanks.
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