I think my biggest issue with the Western Silent Hill games is, rather than making their own Silent Hill game, they were trying to make their own version of Silent Hill 2. I've read that allot of that was due to Konami's meddling though, so i don't hold the developers solely responsible as from interviews with the devs you can tell they wanted to do better with the IP but weren't given the freedom to actually make the game how they wanted.
@elvangulley3210
6 ай бұрын
They failed by even agreeing in the first place. If team silent isn't doing it its not silent hill and shouldn't be made. If they made their own silent hill it would have sucked and not been silent hill. And what Konami made them do also wasn't silent hill and sucked.
@handlebarsmustache
6 ай бұрын
They wanted resident evil hill😢
@cappedminer369
4 ай бұрын
@@elvangulley3210dude that’s way too fanboyish of you. Seriously grow up
@elvangulley3210
4 ай бұрын
@@cappedminer369 get better taste
@cappedminer369
4 ай бұрын
@@elvangulley3210 how so ?
@darthtravis28
6 ай бұрын
I really love Downpour story, the excecution was not the best but Murphy's story is maybe my personal favorite second to James'
@TheMightyPika
6 ай бұрын
SH 1-4 are Japanese, and contains things that the Japanese fear: Losing grasp on reality, isolaton, disconnect from others, town-sized conspiracies that you aren't in on, mostly related to larger society either being against you or you not fulfilling a societal expectation. SH Homecoming is American, and contains things that Americans fear: Domestic violence, toxic families, dangerous members of heirarchy, guilt, mostly related to the family unit and the many ways it can fail you or you can fail it. SH Downpour is Czech, and contains things that Czechs fear: being trapped in an oppressive millitant system, visual signs of economic collapse, when the good people are crushed by the evil ones, mostly related to the depression of being an unhappy cog in a cruel machine beyond your control.
@arealhumanbeing4651
6 ай бұрын
would you consider silent hill origins something in between?
@TheMightyPika
6 ай бұрын
@@arealhumanbeing4651 I don't think Origins or Shattered Memories count as they're retellings/retcons of a pre-existing game (SH1) and aren't something made uniquely from from their respective studios' imaginations. They're far too limited in keeping to SH1's story, characters, and setting, whereas SH 1-4, Homecoming and Downpour don't have that crutch to lean on. They make their own anxieties, make their own characters and settings, and make their own pros and cons. That's why I still stand by that Homecoming and Downpour are valid and worthy works of art - Small studios with limited budget did their best to make something they felt was disturbing and didn't remake something - their errors (and successes) are unique, and that's valuable. I'd way rather have something origional and flawed than something marginally better quality but is a remake of something that's already superior.
@arealhumanbeing4651
6 ай бұрын
alright i appreciate so much your answer...seriously it was kinda of good. it also shows that other cultures can produce and create their own silent hill. i feel that in a way silent hill is a very much universal experience
@user-rr6rl1cr2t
6 ай бұрын
Your description of the Team Silent Quadrilogy, is essentially a perfect recap of Higurashi When They Cry, another reason why I'm super excited for Silent Hill f
@johnernest5843
6 ай бұрын
This is an extremely fascinating take, especially the bit about Downpour. Thank you for this!
@stormp2982
6 ай бұрын
Silent Hill 3 a Masterpiece
@CrashHeadroom
3 ай бұрын
Naaah 2 was a masterpiece, don't get me wrong still love 3 ((have an original day 1 copy of both that and 2 lol)) BUT it felt more like a fever dream. Very disjointed, bit of a rushed story and they did Harry dirty :'(.
@DAtlantida
6 ай бұрын
I had the same surprise as you with Shattered memories, is good, though I really miss the first 3
@corypowercat7277
6 ай бұрын
Homecoming did have one of the freakiest bosses to me though. Scarlet. Also One More Soul to the Call is a good ost. Other than that these games fall flat on the lore of the series and don't understand what they are working with.
@Sarah-qx4vz
6 ай бұрын
She was cool but not scary to me. Didn’t feel like a Silent Hill enemy because it wasn’t abstract enough. The Closer was an enemy that creeped me out a lot. Shit like that
@SolarDNA
6 ай бұрын
Completely agree about Homecoming especially. I couldn't even get the Y axis invert option to work. Only thing that game had going was a couple kind of cool bosses like Scarlet.
@FriendlyNeighborhoodGeek99
6 ай бұрын
First, i dont hate these games, origins and shattered being my favorite but they could have been better tho
@herwandu12
6 ай бұрын
The story of shattered memory was good but the gameplay was just running simulator
@Zorrio
6 ай бұрын
shattered memories is prob my fav w 2 and 4
@michaelb8176
3 ай бұрын
Origins and 3 are my favorite, and I can get now why Origins doesn't feel like it fits in (Even I agree with that) But i still like it for what it is, a simple everyday man who wants to do the right thing even when he really doesn't have any skin in the game. But he still struggles with his own demons. It's like Alessa had to use him because she didn't have anyone else to help her, and the only way she could give back to him for his help was to make him face his own demons (his past) and move on. At least that's the way I saw it. It feels like Travis is a side character in a main story, and it's interesting to see more of the characters from SH1 and how they react to events around them. I don't think that's a bad thing though. The worst part about SH:O was how hard it was to see on the PSP screen It's the best game bc Travis can hit monsters with a portable tv lol
@Jimboh1637
6 ай бұрын
I wish Climax got to make one more silent hill game.
@nono3060
4 ай бұрын
Uh ohhh Maria wasn’t Jame’s wife, Mary was the wife Maria wasn’t real, just so you know
@vurlient
6 ай бұрын
Babe wake up jayaru posted‼️ jokes asideee the editing and script is 🔛🔝 the way you propose your ideas is something I never really thought of, but holy shit it make so much sense. I love your vids so much! It’s so comfortable to watch!
@silenthillarchives
6 ай бұрын
Thank you! I have been working on my content and learning as I go.
@derekb4977
6 ай бұрын
@@silenthillarchives silent hill 1 2 3 and 4 need an enhanced edition on ps5 👍 we don't need remakes.
@derekkrafcheck5703
3 ай бұрын
One minor thing I think they should of did in origins is to have the original puppet nurses instead of the bubble head nurses
@nycbaby_8743
3 ай бұрын
I just recently played Origins on PSVita it was actually good as a silent hill fan I feel all silent hill games are underrated when we haven’t got a game in 10+ years 😂
@gareckthetailor9918
6 ай бұрын
downpour got some definite wonk but is at minimum the closest in spirit to the og's and has some legit ambition to it :3
@Silent47963
4 ай бұрын
Could of fooled me. Has nothing of value to it at all lol
@johndarrellesilva9695
6 ай бұрын
I like SH Origins also Shattered memories.. I'm playing SH 2 now.. will play 3 after
@celineleclere4007
27 күн бұрын
I really enjoyed Silent Hill Shattered Memories. I remember being anguished when I had to take photos and crying at the end of the game.
@Naterkix
6 ай бұрын
Personally, I'd love to have pants like Travis'. JNCO got nothing on them. Man's got at least 8 TVs _minimum_ shoved in there at any one time. Suitcases for a plane trip? Boxes and a U-Haul when moving? Nah, bruv. Just got some Travis Pants™ and you'll be set.
@canks555
6 ай бұрын
Another banger, jayaru! 🤩
@silenthillarchives
6 ай бұрын
Thank you!
@Badbufon
6 ай бұрын
Shattered Memories was the best of the bunch with a lot of new and really interesting mechanics, but sadly it tripped over itself by trying to reimagine the original. i think that the main take away is that it doesn't really matter if you game is a technical marvel or a buggy mess, if the story is not good, the game will suck.
@samuelc6246
6 ай бұрын
Shattered Memories should be played on the Wii though. It was designed around the hardware, both in gameplay and in looking the best on it. I remember how excited I was for its release, and I mostly really loved it (only physically shaking off attackers wasn't much fun).
@silenthillarchives
6 ай бұрын
I planned to play it on the Wii via dolphin emulator but unfortunately, I didn't have a wiimote or wii nunchunk on me as the control scheme is primarily based on motion and response, so I decided to opt for the PS2 via the PCSX2 emulator.
@ImGonnaFudgeThatFish
6 ай бұрын
The graphics are also quite a bit better on the Wii version
@peckedtodeath7059
6 ай бұрын
Can I just say I love this style of video essay? Where a calm voice reads off a script you can obviously tell has been refined and well thought out with "less is more" in mind. So everything you hear is of substance and you don't feel one point is beating repeated for 6 minutes straight? You also don't get the impression you're being read the back of the game's/movie's box description or being read some history lesson lifted straight from an article. Like it's some high school essay to submit Mrs.Bardquad? The editing is subdued and practical here too. I don't feel like some kid with ADHD is reading the script is fast as possible, and "loud equals funny." Also the editing is seizure inducing because they thought it was necessary to put in some meme in every frame. Definitely a fan of this channel for being one of the only video essay types I can enjoy, take something from, and come out of it feeling like I learned something and didn't just get a headache.
@silenthillarchives
6 ай бұрын
Thank you so much. ❤
@jarlwhiterun7478
6 ай бұрын
I got a headache from reading your overly long comment with no paragraph separation.
@peckedtodeath7059
6 ай бұрын
@@jarlwhiterun7478 Lol fair enough.
@peckedtodeath7059
6 ай бұрын
@@silenthillarchives Of course! Can’t wait to see where your channel goes from here.
@RuminInLove
3 ай бұрын
Origins is my favorite PSP game. Travis is a great character and the ending gets to me on an emotional level every time. The song that plays and the miles on Travis' truck resetting... so good. I love hearing Harry's voice at the end. I like to think that the otherworld existing within mirrors is partially responsible for Heather's fear of mirrors in SH3. It's a small thing, but I love the door sounds in Origins. They're varied and unique depending on location, while the Team Silent games usually used the same door sound over and over again except for extremely specific cases. It's a shame door sounds are bugged and don't play in the PS2 version.
@LosMSR
6 ай бұрын
Some people didn't undetstand the story of Team Silent also called KCET, SH1 was a hit in Japan, but the next ones didn't have the same luck, therefore the saga didn't find the niche, and when SH4 flopped, konami felt that the audience of the game was at western, not at Japan. The issue of Western games is simple, they are based on the movie, the plan of Konami was always increase the fan base, bc the games aren't cheap to make. Since Chris Gans was making a good movie, konami wanted a reboot of the saga, now focus on the movie, even the town will be similar to the movie this time, based on Centralia, not Maine. The games of western, aren't a total fail, for example, Homecoming played with the concept of Maria, now with the idea that Alex coming back as a soldier, that born from a wish scenario, once again on Shepherd's family. Double Helix added another inspiration to the saga "Donnie Darko". Also the monsters, and bosses of this game are really well done, with a lot of mythology. Some fans wanted to destroyed SHH just for PH, but in the world of movies, PH is a guardian of the otherworld, but even the og game, SH2 mentioned The Crimson, an entity that is one with the fog, then in the museum, the picture of PH said "Misty day, Reminds of judgment", a red thing. a crimson thing, just like Valtiel, just like cowl of the higher priest in the order of that angel, just like the red god Xuchilbara. Downpour digged more in the story of the town, of course once again the place was more like Centralia, than the OG town in Maine. Shattered memories brought to the saga the technology as a scary element, something that horror movies avoided for years.
@elvangulley3210
6 ай бұрын
Stop those games suck they aren't real silent hill ph should not be in any game besides sh2
@LosMSR
6 ай бұрын
@@elvangulley3210 Did you watch the movie?
@elvangulley3210
6 ай бұрын
you mean the non cannon trash that couldnt be bothered to do any research about the ip for example silent hill is not inspired by centralia in any way its not ash that falls from the sky its snow there are no guys in hazmat suits and gas mask with big hammers and pick axes the order didnt go arround burning people like witches nor were they trapped in the town in some other dimension the movies got nothing right and should never be used as a reference only sh 1-4 @@LosMSR
@LosMSR
6 ай бұрын
@@elvangulley3210 The universe of the movie is based on Centralia, the games of Team Silent were based on Maine. They did a research but in other town, basically the town of the movies could be another haunted town, lol. So Konami wanted games based on that plot, not the other plot, that's why they were a reboot. Konami wanted a full advertising move, using the movie to promote also the games. They are a business.
@elvangulley3210
6 ай бұрын
@@LosMSR who cares what Konami wanted they are the readers sh has sucked after 4 and those terrible movies exist to infect every game that came after them the western games aren't sh the awful movies aren't sh and Konami definitely isn't sh real sh died after 4 no sh fan would be happy or tolerate Konami puppeting its corpse around all these years letting people that don't understand sh make crap game after crap game after crap movie without the decency of at least respecting the lore
@Jacket430
5 ай бұрын
I've never played an SH game aside from Homecoming but I'm just gonna watch this like I know what I'm watching anyway.
@teddytoppes
6 ай бұрын
thank you for the video! sh games are something that I’ve never been bored of
@alwaysxnever
6 ай бұрын
32:17 there should be a VR silent Hill. Short message could have been a worthy successor to the idea of this game but the story was far less subtle.
@picahudsoniaunflocked5426
6 ай бұрын
45:18 Whew I thought I was imagining the Floating Void chasing me but I must just be stuck in Silent Hill at home.
@rein9039
2 ай бұрын
I played all the games developed by Team Silent, a few months after their releases and I dare to say that Homecoming is a good Silent Hill. The level of action is higher than the other games, but even with all that, it is an action that does not fall into the absurd. It is a moderate action. It seems to me that they are very unfair to Homecoming, which looks and feels like a Silent Hill. The creatures have nothing to envy those of Masahiro Ito. I just don't know why it causes so much rejection among fans. 
@sinmenon4347
6 ай бұрын
The thing about Origins is that it was supposed to be a remake, but the idea was rejected and they had to use what they already had made and be in time and budget. It was also ported to the PS2 somehow. Meanwhile, Shattered Memory was supposed to be something very different and its own story but it was repurposed to a remake/reimagining of the first game
@deeayenn
6 ай бұрын
Too much for me to cover re individual games here, as I'm supposed to be working. However, great to hear a coherent analysis of these much reviewed games. Really enjoyed listening to your views on them.
@silenthillarchives
6 ай бұрын
Thank you!
@jack_rabbit
2 ай бұрын
JUSTICE FOR COLD HEART
@israelpereira2088
6 ай бұрын
I'm curious about your thoughts about Silent Hill The Short Message,are you going to make a video about that game?
@silenthillarchives
6 ай бұрын
I would love too but I unfortunately don't have a PS5. 😭
@Eomma2023
6 ай бұрын
I just wanna know why no one says that Book of Memories is in their list of worst Silent Hill games?
@johndarrellesilva9695
6 ай бұрын
I like SH Origins ... First one I've finished then Shattered memories after..
@Scorpio_Rising_1
6 ай бұрын
If there’s something I like about homecoming is the lore they built with Shepherd’s Glenn, and the whole sacrifice thing. I also like the more than obvious mention to Cybil in that game.
@derekb4977
6 ай бұрын
I wish these games never happened, a d we got silent hill 5 by team silent we can still hope, Especially since many of the members now work at bokeh games studio.
@LaRanaFel1z
2 ай бұрын
Team Silent will never return but my man.
@derekb4977
2 ай бұрын
@@LaRanaFel1z we can dream, plus some team silent members work at bokeh games studio maybe something can happen at that studio. Silent hill 5 would be epic.
@nicolasriveros943
6 ай бұрын
I said this everytime i watch a review of SH Origins but, the narrative would have so much better if Lisa Garland was the protagonist. The game should've been about her own struggles with her reality bending around them and the fact that she was the one on charge of taking care of Alessa makes her connection to the story much more belllievable than some random dude that was just happen to drive by...
@wolveric0
6 ай бұрын
Silent Hill Origins was quite good, but it feels rushed, balance is way off making the game too easy with the extremely vast amount of weapons you can carry, the enemy design is mix, the nurses and the lying figures are just reused designs from SH2, the one game not related with the story the game plot is based on, and the new designs like the Caliban and Carrion are really good, the Ariel is really creepy but the butcher is a lame attempt of a "Piramid head" like monster and the Remnant is just lazy, Twoback is really cool too though, boss designs for Mamma and sad Daddy are nice aswell, but those quick time events are a nasty poorly aged remnants of a bygone era. I read and heard that the development of SH:O was quite tumultuous to the point of having to start from scratch after a first "over the shoulder" style game attempt. who knows, maybe a little more time on the oven was needed to deliver a better product.
@ghoulkisser
5 ай бұрын
this is just a small nitpick, but its pretty clearly implied that murphy *isnt* wrongfully imprisoned. he put himself there specifically to kill the man at the start of the game
@devanloveland9515
6 ай бұрын
Thankful for the original sh 1-3
@PrismaticDragonfly
6 ай бұрын
I know they're not as well liked as the original 4 (and even The Room gets its fair share of criticism) but I love every game in the series. I think each one has something special about it. It's definitely true that these 4 are weaker than the originals in practically every way, but I could easily replay the Western titles and still be enjoying myself. If we ever get a HD Collection, I hope it includes all the games. As a whole, the series is very inaccessible due to them being on previous console generations and how much it costs to own some of these nowadays. The series deserves better than that.
@PeanutButterAndJellyBros
6 ай бұрын
I believe that the western silent hill game developers received undeserved criticisms by the silent hill enthusiasts. Let's flip the developers here for a second and say that team silent developed Origins, Homecoming, Shattered Memories, and Downpour with minor modifications added to the games whether if that's for gameplay or storytelling reasons, would team silent received the same criticism that the western developers received? Unlikely. I believe the western silent hill games are heavily disliked and put in a position to be defenseless by the audience just for the fact that team silent is not the developer of those games and that's just not fair in my opinion. Majority in the silent hill fan club just don't perceive the representation of an art anymore as they just want to heavily compare games to argue what this game did right versus what that game got wrong. Homecoming was the closest silent hill game in my opinion to try to achieve what team silent did: protagonist with trauma, mentally insane characters, building an atmosphere with the accommodation of the great Akira Yamaoka. Now was it all executed satisfyingly in the end? One can argue yes and the other probably not. I didn't like pyramid head being an executioner in homecoming and the combat gameplay, but they're not good enough reasons for me to dismiss the game. Just my opinion.
@JOSClaudess
6 ай бұрын
God these western SH games are all trash... I would only take Shattered Memories as an exception, that game really had some thought put into it. Great video btw!
@Monojuli4n
6 ай бұрын
Hey @jayaru, another banger of a video, I really enjoy listening to them while I work or while I'm eating, really good stuff! Btw I am currently writing a script for a video about Control that will become a Alan Wake retrospective, sort of, and I wanna know if you want to be a part of it in some way, I would love to talk about it considering that you're about to drop a Alan Wake retrospective as well, let me know if you're interested, I think it could be fun c:
@silenthillarchives
6 ай бұрын
Hey Julles! Thank you for the support and kind words! Means a lot to me. And sure! I would love to pitch in and lend my voice. You can contact me via my gmail (channel about me page) or my discord server. :3
@nykTelevision
6 ай бұрын
Aw no Book of Memories? 😂 Great video tho!
@silenthillarchives
6 ай бұрын
Thought about it, but it's not playable via emulator, unfortunately. Maybe one day!
@brandon221234
6 ай бұрын
One small correction, a little after 21 minutes you say that James killed his wife Maria, Mary was his wife, not Maria. 🙂 good video though.
@silenthillarchives
6 ай бұрын
Thank you for the heads-up! Didn't notice that till now.
@weirdautumn
6 ай бұрын
I will never forget how Homecoming gave me the UFO ending on my FIRST PLAYTHROUGH. 💀 To me it's the worst one of all western SH games. It just sucks in every way. My SH buddies and I used to make so much fun of games dialogues and characters' models too. Photoshopped them into memes etc... good times hah. That's unironically the only good thing about this game lol
@DAtlantida
6 ай бұрын
Thanks!
@silenthillarchives
6 ай бұрын
Thank you for being my first donation! 🎉❤
@Itsberserkintime2024
3 ай бұрын
I tend to be more of an Origins/Homecoming apologist and a HUGE Downpour hater 😅, also Shattered memories had a lot of potential
@noneofyourbusiness4616
6 ай бұрын
The opening sentence of this video is bizarrely structured and off-putting.
@SilentHillHallows
3 ай бұрын
I only played a bit of homecoming , I need to resume it for sures
@feral_optimist
6 ай бұрын
yo, tasty vid❤
@silenthillarchives
6 ай бұрын
Thank you ❤
@kahlilbt
6 ай бұрын
Not for long!
@Dontworrybehappy-cn1rp
6 ай бұрын
0:38 silent hill 3. My Favorite Game. I Love this Game.❤️
@silenthillarchives
6 ай бұрын
It's my favorite too ❤
@Gruntvc
6 ай бұрын
The only one I bought at release was Silent Hill Homecoming. At least I got the soundtrack CD as a pre order bonus, so, wasn't a total loss. And I agree that I was disappointed with Homecoming's twist. We did eventually get the game Homecoming should've been, Spec Ops The Line. Military horror done right. Double Helix did a much better job with their Strider game. Shame they then got bought by Amazon.
@minion568
2 ай бұрын
silent hill origins. only one i beat with out cheating. it's a nice game if you want to at least get started with the series without much fear. aside from the monsters the size of a house. can even turn the flashlight off if you want to avoid monsters.
@picahudsoniaunflocked5426
6 ай бұрын
2001 subs now😉👍
@NeonFlamingo1337
6 ай бұрын
Another sh video essay of something i already know to much less go
@Silent47963
4 ай бұрын
Origins littlerally botched the whole story. They don't even know the story of Silent Hill 1. They basically mixed the movie into it. It doesn't fit into "canon" at all. Characters, motivations and events are all changed to fit their version of the story. They also don't understand the otherworld AT ALL. The whole game is a total fabrication.
@ubercomrade
6 ай бұрын
I HATE the "heros journey". It is not the only story telling style. It is easy to consume and boring.
@ricodontworryboutit3296
6 ай бұрын
Origin contradict the first games story and characters and done half ass with bad game mechanics. homecoming had a good idea but excuses horrible the fact it story is not all that great and the twist is the worst in any silent hill game. it makes it seem like the town is a sentient being.which downpour does the same but it's a resort town that has a spiritual power under because it was bulit over a indian burial ground.shatter memory is a poor excuse as a remake and it was introduced as a remake but later introduced as a reimagine cause it goes out of way to not be silent hill
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