The funniest part of BC nowadays is when a new hard stages comes out, people get stuck on it, and then the answer all along was to just run biobone (sometimes with minisaurus) and then spam low CD units with like maybe Bahamut or a broken backliner for support. Wow, isn't strategizing in the modern era just so fun and challenging!
@LucasIVYT
Ай бұрын
I've had my fair share of "okay strategizing isn't working, but what about triple research rock courier?" and then it works
@Oscar-mj8fq
Ай бұрын
@@LucasIVYT2024 meta
@PeaLabs
Ай бұрын
@@LucasIVYT Japan's laws on video games make them very weird to balance. Like in the US, the biggest governmental thing surrounding video games is the ESRB rating system and child gambling. Their laws make gacha games from Japan less balanced, a good amount of it should be rethought.
@Twattea
Ай бұрын
@@LucasIVYT what you think of the cap'n had+ Moby Dick+ back to school all share normal and crazed whale
@wlatislov
23 күн бұрын
Bad boys(L) 🗿
@Pudding404
Ай бұрын
I still can't believe we sacrificed old fortuna for 0.87 sec reduced cooldown. This is tragic.
@DiceyMuch
Ай бұрын
Alternative title: Sleep deprived man rants about how much a 52 frame a difference makes for 36 minutes and 20 seconds
@Timtams72
Ай бұрын
The tripe bun bun when I spawn rock research:
@penguinmaster222
Ай бұрын
@@Timtams72 Baby boom:
@Doomfriend2brother
29 күн бұрын
Golden: @@penguinmaster222
@XskullDrSkull
Ай бұрын
Sanzo detected
@InsertFunnyThingHere
Ай бұрын
Outclassed by Manic Titan Cat
@Ozdestro
Ай бұрын
sanzo outclasses this comment
@Documents_Of_Carnage
Ай бұрын
I loved when Sanzo said "It's sanzoin time" and started to Sanzo all over the place
@h1people._____.
Ай бұрын
It’s that one person who makes battle cat videos!
@nogginthepoggin
Ай бұрын
This comment is outclassed by sanzo
@jovindsouza3407
Ай бұрын
Biobone+minisaurus is the very embodiment of "balancing what's that??" It's unbelievable that it exists but I have to admit it's very funny.
@tomacmar
Ай бұрын
nah, cheating heart + kimono champs
@booh5453
Ай бұрын
@@tomacmar bad guys cheating heart
@tomacmar
Ай бұрын
@@booh5453 if you wanna nuke enemies with lasvoss, i don't have lasvoss so i use the other 3 slot large research up combo
@theomegameep6570
Ай бұрын
that shit knocks biobone and minisaurus out of the park
@encrypted2558
22 күн бұрын
@@booh5453poopie dookie
@fabiandarkness2090
Ай бұрын
35:20 can confirm, had Vigler for like 6 months now and haven't spawned him even once. Goated unit tho
@iandean1112
6 сағат бұрын
He's useful against relics for me, but the np wasn't cheap
@birrock4
Ай бұрын
I think the Boulder into roadblock joke could've been that a fallen boulder can obstruct roads and passageways(?
@LucasIVYT
Ай бұрын
something like that!
@coolguymcfly
Ай бұрын
@@LucasIVYTmaybe it could’ve been associating the first two letters in road and last two letters in block to make rock lmao
@Muvie-z4g
Ай бұрын
that "for the gays joke" was peak
@scheeep7376
Ай бұрын
I love watching these video where you ramble on about strategizing, but it also makes me realize just how terrible Razorback is in terms of Battle Cats enemy design. Someone once described him as a "lock-and-key" enemy, and that is a perfect descriptor of him. If he's in a stage, you must bring a specific unit (Bombercat) that absolutely trivializes hi, or die - that is practically the antithesis of strategizing. I suppose Metal enemies and Behemoths also have a similar issue, but it's most evident with Razorback. I'm surprised that you listed Cameraman's slow speed as one of her weaknesses, since it's also one of her strengths. You've probably covered it in a previous video - her slow speed allows for easier stacking, and also makes her preferable for stages such as Kappy Jr. or Crazed Moneko. In fact, her stackable power is so ridiculously strong that she and Paris shred early SoL to pieces - the other day, I was making BCU stages in the style of early SoL (more specifically, I wanted to replace Neverending Cat Story and Castle of Fish), but Paris and Cameraman were so powerful that I had to overtune the enemy magnifications to the degree where the strategy boiled down to mindless meatshield + camera or paris spam. Just out of curiosity, what would you consider as a "superboss" in Battle Cats? The Advent bosses? The Tower bosses? (my gosh i went completely off-topic)
@LucasIVYT
Ай бұрын
usually event bosses or story bosses
@ghost-qm2lj
Ай бұрын
Yeah razorback is lock super basic lock and key, why did they think lock and key works well in a STRATEGY game??? Doesn’t help that bombercat is really hard to get
@scheeep7376
Ай бұрын
@@ghost-qm2lj ah right you were the one who used "lock and key" to describe razorback, and it couldn't be more accurate - people also hate Super Metal Hippoe and Sir Metal Seal for the same reason (though to lesser extent since there are more crit hit units), and Behemoths (though chances are one is probably going to bring Courier regardless of whether there are Behemoths or not) - it's also why Colossus Slayer and Behemoth Slayer (not sure about Sage Slayer) are stupid and bad for the game's health (Witch Killer and EVA Killer are excused because collab funny) on another note, whilst looking on mygamatoto (Spica has issues presumably because of UBlock) for my previously mentioned BCU thing, i realized that it's not just SoL 11~12 which are copy-paste subchapters - SoL 11~15 (Neverending Cat Story ~ Parthenon) are all just carbon copy stages of previous subchapters but buffed (exception with the three enemy debut stages, Labyrinth of Hades is cool), that's five subchapters of copy-paste filler - wow early SoL is boring af until Low Tide Beach
@ghost-qm2lj
Ай бұрын
@@scheeep7376 Yeah, metals and behemoths are unfun because they limit strategy. Metals force you to use crit units and you instantly lose if you went into a stage unprepared and SMH/SMS shows up. Some of them are also just way too annoying like metal doge and wild doge. I agree with you, a good chunk of early SoL are just remake stages, but even worse than the early UL remakes because there was such a limit amount of enemies. Labyrinth of Hades is a good stage because bun bun black and kory synergize well, although Octo kind of killed it. I really hated playing early SoL since it was so boring. Also, spica works fine for me and i use ublock. What issues are you having with spica?
@theomegameep6570
Ай бұрын
i think superbosses are bosses like luza, Mecha bun, relic bun, and meta filibuster. as well as the final boss for each respective story mode section (eoc, itf, cotc, and aku realms) and uril for both towers.
@Akif-ln4vp
Ай бұрын
The fact that courier is not just a really broken anti behemoth and anti red. It also have one of the best worker up combo in the game
@noobysanwich
Ай бұрын
kunio
@Akif-ln4vp
Ай бұрын
@@noobysanwich they give the same effect but courier combo have him and a great anti Zombie in it. And also kunio can only be obtained through an event
@literallyaloafofbread
Ай бұрын
Cheating Heart + Bad Guys go brr
@ClaireTheSaltyHypocrite2309
Ай бұрын
i’ve tried using those combined but it really doesn’t seem to be much better than bad guys
@_TripleAAA_
Ай бұрын
@@ClaireTheSaltyHypocrite2309Bad guys is about the same time same as the triple small combo (2.63s for BG vs 2.61s). Adding Cheating heart saves an extra 1.73 seconds and is about a 67% increase to both so yeah it’s not crazy. Especially since many medium cooldown meat shields already hit minimum/close to minimum cooldown
@0broop0
28 күн бұрын
@@ClaireTheSaltyHypocrite2309stuff like ramen hits 2s anyway, but heavy assault cat goes crazy
@clobzz
Ай бұрын
the crazy thing is the units that are present in minisaurus…a meatshield of which is 2s cooldown normally but being present in a research combo means if you use it, its just a cheaper mohawk, and then the best critical hitter in the game, which especially if you have cost down on him, you can just spam tf out of him
@UniversalPlanetGaming
Ай бұрын
24:20 i heard some Souptasta in there
@AddiTheGrea
Ай бұрын
oh no I hear it
@unlegendaryduc
5 күн бұрын
I can't unhear it now lol
@shau_20
Ай бұрын
I love stock images, great vid btw :)
@Tankozilla13
Ай бұрын
24:07 thats why a canned Juice considers rock the best unit in the game
@penguinmaster222
Ай бұрын
The power of minisaurus+biobone makes rock even more broken and spammable than he already is…
@TheStrangestLad
Ай бұрын
great video to watch while popping off because i finally beat UL after 3 years of playing
@Tem07
Ай бұрын
What is funny to me, is that I feel Bellydancer is strong enough *without* research combo that I don't use it with her unless she is my only meatshield. She can definitely work as a solo meatshield depending on the stage.
@OwOMoment
Ай бұрын
this video really made me think about how if it wasn't a flat decrease but percentage instead, it kills off many things like boulder, ramen, etc (although to be honest the effect will prob still be noticeable) which can be good or bad depending on who you ask, however imagine the % based research on units like abaha/idi, how it could've been on stages like infernal 50 idi chain and such, or cybepunk making cyber stacking slightly more bearable, it probably isnt as powerful even for uber players, however to be honest, I think i would've enjoyed the percentage combos more, just smth to think about
@astablemultivibbrator8538
Ай бұрын
You answered your own question. Percent-based reduction is too strong for long cooldown units, but barely significant for short cooldown units.
@OwOMoment
Ай бұрын
@@astablemultivibbrator8538 it was never meant to be or phrased as a question, just a simple thought (as the last 4 words of the original comment said)
@CupapiTG
Ай бұрын
Nice video. Can you imagine if research combos were percentage based? I wonder what % the Sm combo would have to be to be useful? Maybe 15 to 20%. The M might be 25 to 30%, The L should be 35 to 40%. Seems pretty hard to really balance, though. Anyway though, as you said, the fact that it's a flat increase shines some very needed light towards the low-cooldown units, especially meatshields.
@Choccymilkaddict
18 күн бұрын
Bad guys (especially +cheating heart) is just a free win on every 4 crown Sol stage
@AhidepociereMartynov
Ай бұрын
29:06 I know exactly who that is lmaoooo At least you had the courtesy to censor the name.
@Akif-ln4vp
Ай бұрын
My ramen after getting bio bones combo : an impenetrable fortress of ramen
@OTal-Clemente
Ай бұрын
"Lasvoss spam" is wild lol
@christianalthorgo5224
Күн бұрын
17:54 actually didnt think i was watching for this long until you said it 💀
@TaseenAlim
Ай бұрын
First you made the dasli video, then the bahamut video and now this. I am loving these videos! Which topic would you make a video like this on next?
@dabludino2831
Ай бұрын
Nothing is more as OP as Cheating Hearts? + Kimono Champs/Bad Guys
@kubo7553
Ай бұрын
That's like 4 seconds reduction
@rifai_7568
Ай бұрын
@@kubo7553 its may be small but its really helpful
@arandomguy8979
Ай бұрын
im only 10 seconds into the video and i already know its gonna be peak
@oilflanker
Ай бұрын
I have a full slot saved for triple research now it’s also convenient for crowned sol since I just find half the amount of units for lineup building
@Pufferfish_Pond
Ай бұрын
25:37 "aside from that (zombie enemies) boulder cat basically perfectly stalls everything" Cybear who literally oneshots rock: am I a joke to you?
@romagusar6133
Ай бұрын
Oh yes enemy with 999,999 attack that you encounter only a dozen times is able to one shot a rock
@TheBestFormOfHumor
Ай бұрын
Does the word "basically" mean nothing to you
@SpoopyChicken
Ай бұрын
I love wotching a 36 minute video essay on a topic that I already know everything about!
@superkonijn988
Ай бұрын
Yeah rock really pushed research combo over the edge. I think all in all research combos themselves are really powerful especially when combined with specialized MS but are only as game breaking as the units themselves allow them to be because the units that benefit the most from research combos are almost always spammable units that were considered great units anyway. Its baffling a unit like rock cat was allowed to exist in a world where Ponos should have known just how powerful research combos are (and i figure they know due the limited distribution of this kind of combo), it having a base 4.8 CD already makes it quite powerful to bring in a generalist line up since the ability to guarantee stall (unless your name is starred UL) is just THAT powerful, let alone the other applications Stone cat has like chip, attack baiting, rusher etc. If rock came out with smnt like 8 sec CD it would still be regarded as one of the best units since its niche is not replicable by almost any unit. A unit like Doron who shares this backswing stalling presistance is considered a huge deal for the unit and i often find myself bringing doron just for that alone and this isa minute long CD unit!. At the very least rock cat is a really versatile and fun unit to play with even if its as overpowered as it is and i think this is one of the reasons people don't complain much about research rock in the first place as opposed to smnt like Courier which has the stigma of Behemoth's and being too accesible where it breaks stages when gotten in the early/mid game. Edit: Also i have to add that while it seems like a waste, adding beyond research L for research rock is actually still a benefit. Most notably this allows it to much more consistantly stall socrates and hypothetically would allow a no gacha clear without cheese if No gacha players had access to research L + S which is insane to think about.
@cherylleang2954
Ай бұрын
this is basically canned juice rock video part 2
@b0mberr330
Ай бұрын
10:20 wasn't attack combo 10/15/20% per level?
@astablemultivibbrator8538
Ай бұрын
It is
@user-ed1kv9dy8s
Ай бұрын
22:24 the cancanest speech
@fbhnied
Ай бұрын
Man, i don't even play this game. Suddenly YT recommended videos about this game and now I'm kinda bingewatching any videos got recommended, including this one.
@daniiii888
Ай бұрын
Now just imagine if research combos were percent based and you could lower the cooldown of an Uber by like 50% 👁️👁️ (suddenly nekolugas are S tier)
@abfs5470
Ай бұрын
honestly I don't think that would be enough to make the average luga good lmao
@LucasIVYT
Ай бұрын
nekolugas turning from 5 years to spawn to finally having a iron legion tier cooldown
@icemast2390
Ай бұрын
Base catasaurus crit chance is 7% (with talents is 12%) We love the comment section and the tendency to call out minor mistakes
@Traltz
Ай бұрын
vigler mentioned perfect video
@axeloctavio5787
Ай бұрын
Literally beat all of 4 star sol with either triple research combo and spam courier and ramen, if that didnt work spam cyborg and haniwa, about at the halfway i got vigler and it went downhill from there
@nogginthepoggin
Ай бұрын
I love research combos Because i can just make enemy suffer trying to hit rock cat over and over and over and over
@ky7501
Ай бұрын
Even if research became %-based, that would open up new strategies for stacking higher cooldown units. If you had a 20% cooldown reduction, that would turn a 2 minute cooldown Uber into a 1 minute 36 second cooldown Uber (-24 s). Even for small units, a 3 s cd would become 2.4 s cd, not as broken but still very helpful
@Aura_BCP
Ай бұрын
MFs be glazing over Vigler without even glazing onto Vigler
@Brightplays
Ай бұрын
22:23Can can does what ever can can can because it can
@supernova3241
6 күн бұрын
20:07 RANGED MEATSHIELD THEORY!!!!
@moayadf7608
Ай бұрын
18:50 just want to say that future cost Is less then eraser (105 to 150) cone would've been a better example 🗿👍
@Whitehole5615
Ай бұрын
biobone mini saurus is amazing, as a battle cats youtuber this is in so many of my tutorials you made me think on how and when to use them
@quipo2029
Ай бұрын
I prefer the Cheating Heart and Bad Guys combo or as I call it Cheating Guys
@craberadicator9446
11 күн бұрын
Cant wait for the 2 unit L res combo next year so we can double L res combo.
@galaxygenerator4542
Ай бұрын
Man is the "Professional Babbler"
@user-dk6sh5zk3v
Ай бұрын
I did not know what the reasearch combo did until i watched this video ty for the explanation very cool ❤
@eddy796
Ай бұрын
Im surprised you never brought up Shitaki Sparrow in this video for his stupidly nice combo. As a unit he’s pretty bad, though against St. Doberman and Aku Gory he does really well, but such a low slot combo for angel and even aku stages is crazy nice.
@charleycheng8043
Ай бұрын
How would you feel if research combos were percentage based? I personally think it would be a lot more balanced and fun since a 20-30% reduction on big units sounds really interesting, especially when cycling rushers. I also think the fixed reduction has been really bad recently with the introduction of cone+tf uril
@quanthanhduong997
Ай бұрын
6:23 i love -10% chance to crit
@n2spagooter692
Ай бұрын
Bad Guys/Land-Air Assault is my personal ubercombo banger
@ghost-qm2lj
Ай бұрын
10:21 isn’t attack up 10/15/20 for sm/m/l
@LucasIVYT
Ай бұрын
oh yeah whoops
@Brightplays
Ай бұрын
We love research
@laurentiuslancaster1657
Ай бұрын
With PONOS recently releasing some good Cat Combis lately I'm more in line in trying to get those Ubers rather than Fest units
@Green-ii8nr
Ай бұрын
If the research combo was percentage based then it would benefit those with higher cooldowns
@EnoshimaGuertena
Ай бұрын
I’ve been playing this game for like 6 years or so? Research combos has its place but I frequently use bio-bone even when it’s clear there isn’t much reason to, or it’s worsening my lineup. In my recent experiences, Modern cat feels unusable without research combo. Angel dober having surge feels like an attempted counter to ramen + research but ramen still does the job (usually?). This video just goes into detail on why I naturally bring research instead of just using ability UP combos.
@augusto659
Ай бұрын
Remember when you said "imagine if you Double tap one treasure you go direct to the stage" 2 years after hes here
@G-Shroom-The-Mushroom
Ай бұрын
I love how every Z Killer is compared to cadaver and Cheif cat 2 Late game units that will take you ages of your sanity to aquire
@LucasIVYT
Ай бұрын
Yeah but getting Skele's talents maxed is also incredibly expensive that it's absurdly unrealistic to even get his talents before getting either cadbear or chief
@boxcart4533
Ай бұрын
Research increases both your defence and your offence at the same time more than defence and offence combos… perfectly balanced
@hi2882
Ай бұрын
Cheating heart is busted, someone did 5 slot 3 star UL bc of it
@nicholasali3566
Ай бұрын
God, it feels even better to have Cheating Heart
@misterhappy444
Ай бұрын
Yiik mentioned
@LucasIVYT
Ай бұрын
me playing omori
@Choccymilkaddict
18 күн бұрын
@@LucasIVYTme with bad guys and cheating heart 💀
@Xynbra
Ай бұрын
I have the ubers necessary to do the L + M research combo and it is very funny to spam my way though alot of levels, even using some relatively low recharge ubers like Balrog even though it doesn't make that much of a difference but it does feel like it makes a difference for them
@evanderyorrel3549
Ай бұрын
I love spamming my dasli's with broken catcombos
@GamingwithGamer_dude
Ай бұрын
Bro I have so much copies of the lils but no lil cat like what the heck
@yosoyt6765
Ай бұрын
man i didnt knew vigler was that good i just had him bc he was a wave ¨nuker¨ and his stun
@Totallyrealroddhoward
Ай бұрын
Who needs research combos when you can have cat god and baby boom
@stewygriffan5678
Ай бұрын
Am i tripping or is the 2nd point at 16:40 worded wrong. So far how youve explained its all flat decreases so it can never be multiplicative, so it wouldnt get more and more because 4 - 2 and 4 - 1 - 1 is still both 2.....?? Or am i overlooking something 😅
@SPZ-gv2on
Ай бұрын
Percentage based decreases have diminishing returns while flat decreases don't. 1 second off of 4 is a 25% cooldown reduction, while another 1 second off of 3 is a 33% cooldown reduction. Flat cooldown reduction is exponentially more effective the closer it gets to 2 seconds until it caps.
@LucasIVYT
Ай бұрын
What im trying to say is 3-1 has a bigger leap than 4-1
@blazie42069
Ай бұрын
biobone, vigler combo, and the asiluga combo are all pretty busted
@baidman3148
Ай бұрын
very infomitive thx lucas
@LudovicoPetroleumScallywagVII
Ай бұрын
Moral of the story: more cats in the gate game is good
@Bander_gaming
Ай бұрын
I can't believe he didn't mention kuu when talking about long cooldown units (maybe he found a better waifu)
@JohnPaul_kun
Ай бұрын
7:40 not only it's not for everyone but is impossible to get now because killer cat is now a remove content which why you can't get the bad guy combo anymore which is really annoying but oh well
@LucasIVYT
Ай бұрын
fym removed content??? no its not???
@anotherjason
Ай бұрын
Verger owners know the true limits of how far research combos can go
@CuriousNeon
Ай бұрын
Kon kon kitsune~!
@clash_king1025
Ай бұрын
Research combos is the reason I started seedtracking for Ubers LMAO
@yeamelol
Ай бұрын
I did not realize it was 36 minutes long , but I'm not complaining
@grassvfx
Ай бұрын
Also having half of your lineup dedicated for combos slaves isn't always an issue cause M-L research combos eats up your money if you spam. If you don't have the money to use your units, the units don't exist(?) 🤷♂️
@OATHOFVIRTUE
Ай бұрын
if you ever see me spawn vigler, just know i'm cooked and have nothing else to spawn
@TheCatfishCrusader
Ай бұрын
That map jumpscare got me 💀
@Rleasure0XD
Ай бұрын
Im always strapped with vigler+riceball
@osrakhlil8863
Ай бұрын
you HAVE to see the treasure in battle cats
@MusicalGuy1
Ай бұрын
I have Lasvoss and Vigler so if I get the lasvoss combo, I can have a research up large and medium. (I am in the middle of itf 2 and just getting courier cat)
@Brightplays
Ай бұрын
Honestly imagine if research combo was percentage instead of flat.
@robot2022-sl3tg
Ай бұрын
I love learning stuff
@blubbyblub88
Ай бұрын
L+M research with courier tho. ik its like really inaccessible cuz u need 2 ubers for it but like... once u get it... courier has slightly over 2 sec cd
@meijustmei4634
21 күн бұрын
"Xtra Large only reserved for the gays." - Lucas IV
@Quinimunn
Ай бұрын
TROPICAL CRUST IN ROCK SEGMENT LETS GOO
@Sporketto
Ай бұрын
no way lucas video rel
@Saddy231
Ай бұрын
Yo. Could you make a "best combo of every category" along with the best combo line? For example cheating heart is the most efficient for the ammount of units while the best comho line would be cheating heart + the bad guys Do it but for all combo categories :3
@SilumanTomcatReborn
Ай бұрын
i have that list
@rickypayton7946
Ай бұрын
Has he ever heard of the bad guys cat combo?
@romagusar6133
Ай бұрын
Proposition: make a video about gamatoto, ototo corps and canon mechanics
@EnoshimaGuertena
Ай бұрын
You know UL 3 star is bad when the right amount of peons could somehow kill rock cat
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