I've been building a deck with most of these cards in quarantine. Its super fun. For me.
@oliveragag8576
4 жыл бұрын
@@mlanier3533 So you're the reasons God's mad at us
@colinpaul2146
3 жыл бұрын
Ah a see you are a man of culture as well
@crazham8332
3 жыл бұрын
Don't forget to put in a reality twist
@double2254
5 жыл бұрын
Obviously the most salty card in commander is Island, when someone plays it everyone just whines
@nelsonmesa6785
5 жыл бұрын
It is known.
@sampayne1949
5 жыл бұрын
Very Known.
@mikemoyer8162
5 жыл бұрын
You got a real laugh out of me with that.
@double2254
5 жыл бұрын
Mike Moyer Happy to help
@joonasjarnvall832
5 жыл бұрын
Thats why you play carpet of flowers
@MagNight
5 жыл бұрын
I like to recur Kindslaver, so I can replace irritating opponents with nicer ones.
@TheCommandersQuarters
5 жыл бұрын
Haha well done
@Crunchatize_Me_Senpai
5 жыл бұрын
That’s awesome
@luddoardo
4 жыл бұрын
Lowered playing speed to 0,75. Nice and calm speech, and he sounds a bit tipsy.
@xenasBS
3 жыл бұрын
"A bit tipsy" is an understatement lol
@panick_9550
3 жыл бұрын
Sounds drunk enough to puke any second
@bannedfromisrael
2 жыл бұрын
LOL
@jeffreyjohnson3687
5 жыл бұрын
I've only played one game in which a Theives' Auction was resolved, and I will never forget how funny it was. I was at very low life, and the guy directly after that turn decided to kill me with my own commander... to which, I said "okay" and began picking up all my lands... which were on his board.
@TogbusPrime
5 жыл бұрын
Reminds me of this one game of Five Star I played YEARS ago. The guy after me was playing a really annoying mono-red that used a buncha cards mentioned here and enchantments since the wipes he chose couldn't wipe them. Before that started going off I killed out non-mutual enemy and the game actually dragged on so long due to him blowing up the board and other shenanigans he forgot and won me the game by killing out mutual enemy first! Easily my favorite game of Magic.
@mikemoyer8162
5 жыл бұрын
I'll admit my own mistake here doing that. My Norin/confusion in the ranks had stolen a lot of beefy creatures. I then proceed to take the beatdown guy first. Lost about half my board. Smooth move, smart guy. Edit to say I was immediately teamed up on (rightly) for the rest of the game. Still came in second though.
@kingfuzzy2
5 жыл бұрын
I love Norin just need a cheap deck I like first to build around : p
@scantron6111
5 жыл бұрын
I played a game once where one player was running a jank ‘chaos’ deck. He successfully played Thieves Auction *TWICE*.
@TheSpikeFeeders
5 жыл бұрын
In this video: Jim's favourite cards in Commander. - Jim
@muzumaki619
5 жыл бұрын
If it gives you extra turns its hated
@TheCommandersQuarters
5 жыл бұрын
Definitely can make the list that way!
@greatbrandini3967
5 жыл бұрын
I have a combo in my Eldrazi deck that can allow me to take multiple turns in a row. Yeah, I'm just gonna swing this Annihilator 4 at you for the next 3 turns
@sampayne1949
5 жыл бұрын
I've played against a 60 card with that stuff, noped out of there real quick.
@schrenjaminsstift92
5 жыл бұрын
time walk
@thedoomslayer8900
5 жыл бұрын
I have a friend that plays Kess, and as many extra turn spells, removal, counters, things to copy spells, you name it, as possible. It doesn't have a wincon except to widdle you down with Kess. So let's just say he's never allowed to play it
@chromium3707
5 жыл бұрын
I remember when I use to play slivers and got targeted 100%
@thebenis3219
5 жыл бұрын
I played Slivers way back in grade school when Legions first came out and learned after a short period of time that nobody wanted to play with me anymore lol. Affinity/Artifacts too. I know juuuuuust how quickly these things spiral out of control. A guy in my play group coincidentally decided to make both of these things for EDH decks, so guess who gets targeted first hahaha. He doesn't seem to get why either, unfortunately.
@alexgermack197
5 жыл бұрын
Somehow i get targeted more frequently with my shirei edh deck than i do with my sliver overlord edh
@nelsonmesa6785
5 жыл бұрын
@@thebenis3219 did you explain it to him?
@chromium3707
5 жыл бұрын
Well better than my food chain combo deck...but that’s no fun. My fun deck is Rubinia and combo with helm of host and conjured’s closet......which honestly taking something every turn is annoying
@chromium3707
5 жыл бұрын
But overlord, morophon is my new go too. Just free spells with cascade
@phyrexian_dude4645
5 жыл бұрын
You know which card grind mi gears? Wayfarer's Bauble... its so cheap and goes in any budget deck... disgusting. On a serious note i hate Stasis... a lot... that goddamn clown...
@xarshoon7157
5 жыл бұрын
Stasis and something like Wilderness Reclamation
@phyrexian_dude4645
5 жыл бұрын
That's a weird form of spelling Seedborn Muse.
@thewildmage36
5 жыл бұрын
@@xarshoon7157 just wait until every green-blue oathbreaker deck plays one seedborn muse and one prophet of kruphix. When I played prophet of kruphix in an oathbreaker game, my opponent refused to continue until I pulled out the ban list. Then he proceeded to buy like 15 copies of prophet of kruphix on tcgplayer, saying that they'd surely spike sooner or later.
@xarshoon7157
5 жыл бұрын
Joshua Blair nice thanks for the tip
@kingfuzzy2
5 жыл бұрын
Wasting a card like high tide as a 15+ turn way to win with a prison deck irks me. High tide deserves better jankier treatment smh.
@Shippo89
5 жыл бұрын
Something that causes a bit of salt but a ton of laughs is watching a beatdown player take the game. There's always at least 1, usually 2 combo players that don't have a problem losing to an infinite combo but heaven forbid they take a few hits from 8+ power creatures.
@Frosthief
5 жыл бұрын
Reminds me of my playgroup. By far the most effective deck is my buddy’s Kefnet. Not because it’s strong, but because it’s literally just an indestructible 5/5 that swings every turn starting on turn 4. My group is very casual and it’s basically unkillable.
@mewe0
5 жыл бұрын
@@Frosthief nobody plays arrest or prison term?
@CanisMythson
5 жыл бұрын
Try 20 8/8 Giant Adephage tokens with Trample. I've done that. Still working on upgrading Primal Genisis
@TheMasterplanter
5 жыл бұрын
My favorite commander deck runs Atarka as the commander. People get pretty salty when I suddenly play her and pump her with a form of haste to surprise one shot.
@helioscomis3732
5 жыл бұрын
Linear creature based aggro decks are pretty powerful in multiplayer due to how unassuming they look prior to them doing something that makes them ridiculous. I think the only reason most people get upset is because they see the beat-down player as not playing the team aspect of commander and basically free loading off the other interactive decks. When you play a pod with combo and there is one player whose deck can't interact with that combo and it forces you and the other players to extend yourself to prevent the combos while said beat-down player just forces your life totals down it can be a little grating.
@JimWolfie
5 жыл бұрын
I love how only like two cards ready see play in cedh and everything else just drops off because there's so much free counter play to them
@ms.aelanwyr.ilaicos
5 жыл бұрын
cEDH is diet Vintage, so it makes sense that, in the same way as that format, the universe of cards that matter is a proper Frankenstein's monster--plus some cheap interaction
@dataghost2307
5 жыл бұрын
Sick! Swat cats! 👍
@JimWolfie
5 жыл бұрын
@@ms.aelanwyr.ilaicos it's still commander
@ms.aelanwyr.ilaicos
5 жыл бұрын
@@JimWolfie True, and my Kamigawa-Block-Constructed-legal mono-Blue control deck is still Vintage
@NeonXtheCamper
5 жыл бұрын
@@ms.aelanwyr.ilaicos It's closer to Legacy actually, a pile of properly tuned decks will often butt heads for a while before winning.
@harryturner9201
5 жыл бұрын
Sensei's Divining Top because a lot of players don't know how to use it and it makes the game much longer.
@kingfuzzy2
5 жыл бұрын
Mulligan me.
@jackcharron2813
5 жыл бұрын
Void Winnower. I’m the only one in my pay group who has one, and even I understand how annoying it is to play against.
@royplatt455
4 жыл бұрын
I just can't even with Void Winnower. I swear.
@thomashanby9844
4 жыл бұрын
My group just straight-up banned Winnower, and I have no problem with that
@papanurgle8393
4 жыл бұрын
I adore the card.
@Punk3r77
3 жыл бұрын
@@papanurgle8393 same, my playgroup plays a ton of blue 0/2/4 drop counterspells. Aside from a cavern of souls, its just about the best answer I have in my colorless new kozilek deck to stop people from just countering every eldrazi I play.
@TwinkleTwilight
5 жыл бұрын
As someone who plays on MTGO often, Sensei's Divining Top is my absolute most hated card. The person who plays Top is often 30 minutes into their clock when everyone else is hardly past 5. I get that it's powerful but man it slows down games to much, constantly waiting for the Top player to pass priority, and lorde forbid that they actually activate it!
@SomeRandomDude821
4 жыл бұрын
"I play Cabal Coffers." "Wake of Destruction, naming Swamp."
@sykorixgraveborn7142
5 жыл бұрын
Anything that says infect on it, (Although i like infect, only when im playing it, not when anybody else is, because when i play it, i build it wrong) 😂😂
@TheCommandersQuarters
5 жыл бұрын
Haha great answer!
@nickfullerton3842
5 жыл бұрын
Use leeches
@sykorixgraveborn7142
5 жыл бұрын
@paladinodlanier at least it gives you more time then right😂😂
@benjaminnewman9828
5 жыл бұрын
Even with the house rule of 15, if anyone see infect in my group they become the target.
@nickfullerton3842
5 жыл бұрын
That's a start
@TheGrifcannon22
5 жыл бұрын
I'm not adverse to MLD as long as they have a follow up to it. Don't destroy everyone's lands then pass the turn, you better win the game.
@thebenis3219
5 жыл бұрын
Same boat. If MLD is done, I'm cool with it so long as it leads into a win soon after.
@fabioarturospada4178
5 жыл бұрын
A friend used to play GAAIV and had MLD, but the only damn wincon in the deck was Approach of the 2nd sun. Wrath of God -> Armageddon 2 hours into a game is so aggravating and unfun. He took that deck apart real soon.
@Vaderi300
5 жыл бұрын
Personally my feeling is that 2 turns is the absolute limit, if you didn't have a plan to win within 2 turns you are just screwing with the table and are making the game worse for everyone else.
@NecroAsphyxia
4 жыл бұрын
Honestly you know what I hate more than LD? The cheesy G deck tbat takes advantage of no LD and over extends super quick, knowing it doesnt matter because no one is allowrd to touch his toys... This is why G is so stupid busted in "casual edh"
@tatsuhirosatou5513
4 жыл бұрын
@@Vaderi300 I wouldn't put a turn limit on it just if they have a plan like avacyn or kaali the vast is out and protected.
@goozilla123
5 жыл бұрын
Normally I'd say island, but forests are actually degenerate
@BeCurieUs
4 жыл бұрын
My playgroup HATES the mill archetype. Even when I am not even attempting to mill for the kill, people just hate seeing cards end up in the graveyard. It is kinda like people hate their creature becoming counter vs killed. At least if someone murders it, it lived, but it just getting countered or ending up in the graveyard without being played just hurts something extra.
@papanurgle8393
4 жыл бұрын
Double down and play Geth. The best part? You win with their milled combo pieces.
@Punk3r77
3 жыл бұрын
Man, sounds like your playgroup enjoys fun.
@roercula8425
2 жыл бұрын
This honestly sounds super toxic. I get that some things are worse than others. But all these exclusion of playstyles that are just part of the game and that arent even OP in general is very upsetting i think. At some point why not saying "loosing isnt fun for me" and collectively stop the game before anyone looses. I mean seriously i had people get angry at me for how i untap my lands.
@halfjack2758
4 жыл бұрын
I love land destruction. Especially when you stick stax pieces on top of that
@Leivve
5 жыл бұрын
Surprised Nekusar wasn't on the list of commanders that make people salty.
@w47765
5 жыл бұрын
Nekusar can accidentally kill himself since you are technically giving a vital resource. If he denied reacting to your shenanigans then he'd be more annoying but it's the supporting cards that irritate people. Waste not is dumb.
@TogbusPrime
5 жыл бұрын
@@w47765 Yeah, but he's in blue and black and those include every card that can permanently give something Infect. I've never seen it done, not do I do it in mine, but there are plenty of people in my meta that talk about it and yeah, that's gonna be real annoying.
@felixbillington6151
5 жыл бұрын
People like cards. In my meta we keep the nekusar player alive to fuel our hands then kill them with creatures
@steveng6721
5 жыл бұрын
Nekusaur is not a problem at all. Just remove his megrim style effects and all he does is help you go through your deck
@markuskoivisto
5 жыл бұрын
I play Nekusar because win or lose, games are shorter and we can play two games in an evening rather than one.
@edwinmillian2493
4 жыл бұрын
This is why I'm reluctant to play commander sometimes. When playing there's always something to complain about for some people. There are mean things to do in this game but when it comes to playing against people with different decks we have to accept the fact that they can be hard to beat.
@크레스니
5 жыл бұрын
Decree of annihilation and teferi's protection combo. Now that's going to make people mad.
@dagothur5800
4 жыл бұрын
obliterate its better for that combo, im try to used, but i realize its not fun lol
@tatsuhirosatou5513
4 жыл бұрын
I just play every board wipe and land wipe I can with avacyn angel of hope
@lillylazer_666
5 жыл бұрын
With the land destruction, I do run some of it. Green is very strong in EDH, and one of the main reasons is that greens main game plan (land ramp) isn’t punished. Most other colours do have hate for their main themes but because so many people hold lands as a sacred resource, green gets a free pass for doing a lot of broken stuff. I’m quite happy to have some land hate especially if our playgroup is going green heavy.
@astonerdarkly222
5 жыл бұрын
i think mass land destruction / bounce / disruption is rightfully hate-worthy but i do feel you on the lack of punishes for ramp. i'd love to have some effect that pings each player for the difference between their land count and the lower one, for example
@tj2themax
5 жыл бұрын
Chaos is Too Chaotic Category *Timesifter not shown* Timesifter: Am I a joke to you?
@ferdithetank7535
5 жыл бұрын
Also High Mind, Eye of the Storm, Grip of Chaos, Knowledge Pool etc.
@childodoom
5 жыл бұрын
My wife plays Timesifter in her deck. I freaking hate that card. :P
@kwikdraw7332
4 жыл бұрын
I'll see your Timesifter and raise you a Possibility Storm. I will continue hating that card until I build Mishra, Artificer Prodigy. Then it will probably become my favorite card
@ms.aelanwyr.ilaicos
5 жыл бұрын
I would say the the throughline on these cards is that most of them, if left unanswered, effectively end the game--but many don't, in fact, end the game on the spot. If you don't like to/know when to concede, you won't like playing against most of these. Well, that, plus cards that can allow a less sophisticated third actor to hand your opponent a win (e.g. Rhystic Study)
@CrimsonHiroX07
5 жыл бұрын
Land destruction... Friends don't let friends play land destruction. That said, that is why I play artifacts... But if they blow everything, they're kinda a lost cause... As for Back to Basics, teaches players the power of basic lands. Zen Triplets I'm ok with, as long as I'm playing my clone tribal deck. And because it is clone tribal, whatever they can do, I can probably do better. Atraxa, she is #2 on my kill-on-sight list.
@chrisboling3487
4 жыл бұрын
Power surge+ mana barbs + urzas armor Trestideciphobia + tree of perdition Havoc festival + wound reflection Darksteel plate + pariaha's sheild + hornets nest Razor swine + goblin tunneler 😈😈😈
@chrisboling3487
4 жыл бұрын
I currently run all of these except the 1st 3
@apexofhumanity
4 жыл бұрын
$2000 for tabernacle! I'm pretty sure I have one. Can't wait to get home and double check.
@LTJ
5 жыл бұрын
In my last game I had Mystic Remora out (but I always try and ensure that I get Solemnity out ASAP after it 😃) I also had Smothering Tithe and Rhystic Study...so it was...do you want to pay 4 and 2 and 1...for some reason the game turned into archenemy...😆
@andrewl9191
5 жыл бұрын
Yeah, it's a great card and I like getting, it. All of them are. I definitely had a Rhystic and Smothering during a recent game and it was tough to keep track of and probably annoying for everybody else. Eventually if they don't mention it and don't mention paying, I just draw my card and make the treasure. You need to hold yourself accountable though. If you've got the Mystic or Rhystic and you miss the trigger, you can't go back. You can for the Tithe though, because that's not a "may."
@caligo7918
4 жыл бұрын
Not sure if this will be read... "Rising Water" is a blue enchantment (3U) that reads: " Lands don't untap during their controllers' untap steps. At the beginning of each player's upkeep, that player untaps one land that player controls." If you want a white version on a stick: "Holori, Dust Drinker" (2WW) does the same on a 2/2 body. This slows everybody down if you don't have a way to untap all your lands with other means, like "Prophet of Kruphix", "Wilderness Reclamation", "bear umbra", "Magus of the Candelabra" or "Nature's Will". You could even make all lands creatures and add an "Intruder Alert"
@Pesola
5 жыл бұрын
I played Iona once (when she was still legal to play), never again, my playgroup hated me for few weeks for that, no fun was had because I literally stopped 3 players for playing because I choose optimally and banned black color.
@flusterfluff
5 жыл бұрын
Against Riku, Azusa, and Tatyova, an ex-friend of mine just set Iona on the table. I'm so glad she got banned.
@aor8722
4 жыл бұрын
So basically, Commander Players whining about almost everything?
@ACertainGuy0
5 жыл бұрын
Smothering tithe with stasis........am i a horrible human being? probably. am i sorry? absolutely not.
@C.J.33
4 жыл бұрын
watching this, like every card is in a deck of a friend or myself. yes, one friend even has a foreign tabernacle he paid $350 for. didn't know the level of toxicity that exudes from our table. I used to run atraxa but have toned down the hate a bunch. I now run Rashmi for some fun double casts. rhystic study is in that deck, along with time stretch, ulamog, and a few others in this video. My atraxa was AIDS compared to Rashmi though.
@EpicToadRage
4 жыл бұрын
Liquid Metal Coating and Splinter. When going up against a mono colored deck, use Liquid Metal Coating to turn one of their forests (or whatever) into an artifact as well as still being a forest. Then, use Splinter to remove target "artifact" from the game, then also search their hand, graveyard, and library to remove all other cards of the same name (Forest!) from the game. Only lands left are the ones on their battlefield. 😈
@Callyn9x
4 жыл бұрын
Eww, gross, glad I don't play mono decks
@EpicToadRage
4 жыл бұрын
@@Callyn9x only reason I knew about it was because someone did it to me. I was playing mono black, and was getting mana screwed. 7 turns in, and I finally dropped my THIRD swamp... and then he did that to me. I had 2 swamps to my name at that point. All the rest were gone. I sat there in shock for at least a full 2 minutes... then conceded.
@FirekingBarong
5 жыл бұрын
Ashnods Altar popped straight into my mind, i see this card and just know Bullshit is comming ^^
@agentmtg890
5 жыл бұрын
Any counter spell that cost less then spell countering almost all rebound crap ohh i finally got twelve mana to play my big baddy nope one mana back to your hand deck ect that shit is gerrrrrr
@andrewdsadfsdafvxcvfsafznw2
4 жыл бұрын
11:34 A bunch of salty Commanders are in Azorius? Weird...
@marcusthompson7229
4 жыл бұрын
Favorite most hated card, also leads to alot of thats a thing? Divine Intervention.
@negativeneggie3885
4 жыл бұрын
I like how they hit practically every card that I’ve ever seen people groan at in commander. There is not a single card on this list that I have not seen used to murder a game. And with the cards in commander always expanding, there’s always a new annoying commander card that comes out.
@izaiahsundquist6877
4 жыл бұрын
You know those cards you love? Here's a video with them and others like it to choose from.
@alexanderson5143
5 жыл бұрын
One of my friends has a deck with all three of the cards in the thumbnail. It’s a B*tch to play against.
@alexledet
5 жыл бұрын
My dad has a hydra deck and DESPISES when I have Cytoplast Manipulator out
@Arvaniz
5 жыл бұрын
The same thing I said when I read the salt list on EDHREC... What? No PERPLEXING CHIMERA??
@ferdithetank7535
5 жыл бұрын
That one is not utterly oppressive, but rather fun and... sometimes perplexing. It speaks for itself pretty well.
@Vaderi300
5 жыл бұрын
It's obnoxious, but can often create a fun puzzle.
@GoblinWizardry
4 жыл бұрын
Sol Ring, if there's one card I would ban from commander its this bad boy for being a must have for every deck I've seen!
@darksabrz
4 жыл бұрын
Several of my EDH decks don't have a Sol Ring. I don't use one in Slivers (which I rarely play because of the instant hate, even when there's worse threats actively in play), nor in Atraxa (Fungus/Saproling tribal, zero infect or Superfriends). Not using one in the Golos, Tireless Pilgrim deck that I've almost finished putting together (just waiting for Treacherous Terrain to show up from ordering it online via TCGPlayer and it's done).
@bricksloth2599
4 жыл бұрын
Anyone ever played hissing miasma against a token deck?
@sapphirII
4 жыл бұрын
Sounds like you speak of experience. I'd like to mentions Revenge of Ravens too.(It the only reason I survived for so long when I did an Eldraine wizard's tower with my friends.)
@Alice_Haukea
4 жыл бұрын
I mostly agree with this list. Though I also feel that people just tend to complain about everything. Yes, setting up a bunch of cards that freeze/lock out the game are worthy of making people salty. But then there are other cards listed here that people really just need to learn how to play around. By no means am I some skilled player, (i'm actually pretty mediocre) but I'm not going to get salty over someone having expensive cards or mildly annoying effects. People get so upset about others using proxie cards, but then if they are gonna still be upset about expensive cards either way, then really all it is is them being jealous they cannot afford the better versions of things themselves. Avacyn is annoying, not salty. A simple and budget cost card like Path to Exile deals with her. Mass removal such as Merciless Eviction deals with her. Forced sacrifice deals with her. She is really strong no doubt, but she has many openings. Other than stax and land destruction effects, I feel that everything else is tolerable in reasonable amounts. Again, I just think players like to find something to complain about.
@lepromisedmonke7012
5 жыл бұрын
I only play Armageddon if either it will benefit me tremendously or if I will win almost instantly as a result (never lost when I played Armageddon 🤷🏼♂️)
@liamcolotti6824
4 жыл бұрын
I play ceaseless hunger as my commander. *standing with open arms waiting for the hate train* (P.s. A lot of the time I can cast him for 4 mana)
@eamonbell6378
4 жыл бұрын
This is the least surprising thing I've ever seen.
@wolfsritter8151
4 жыл бұрын
So basically Mtg players are salty all the time.
@carboncuber3147
5 жыл бұрын
My play group hates my commander deck. It's ran by Golos, the Tireless Pilgrim. I run eldrazis in it and one the main win condition is It That Betrays followed by All is Dust. I've gotten the entire table to rage quit doing that once.
@jansenmayfield6317
5 жыл бұрын
This is hot:3 I love the Eldrazi titans as I am a major HP lovecraft fan, and they're obviously based off his work. People don't seem to like them though:p , I've wanted to build something just like this as soon as he was spoiled, but there's quite a few Golos decks in my area now. So hearing you doing this gives me life:3
@carboncuber3147
5 жыл бұрын
@@jansenmayfield6317 Do it! It's such a fun deck to run.
@VISUtaku
5 жыл бұрын
Tainted Strike. I guess, I decoded it's flavour text to: "I don't have the b***s to play Hatred."
@kcmadhatter_4235
4 жыл бұрын
Smothering tide could also go in the well that's just annoying
@paleconfidant380
5 жыл бұрын
My play group only hates stuff that slow the game down. ie mass land destruction, nexus of fate, orbs. Anything else is fair game, (I once saw a turn one blightsteel).
@elizzler
5 жыл бұрын
Can you please do a Scion of the Ur Dragon deck tech? I've been wanting to make one without spending too much and you are my favorite budget channel 🙂
@itzibitzi7611
5 жыл бұрын
Ensnaring Bridge....hate that card!
@Mrbebe1997
5 жыл бұрын
Just wait till you see it with bottled cloister
@itzibitzi7611
5 жыл бұрын
@@Mrbebe1997 Muahaha I know the combo:3 ....playing since 1997:-)
@fsfreturns5242
4 жыл бұрын
About Gaddock Teeg, there was a funny idea I came up with a friend : a 2v2 Commander match with him using Gaddock Teeg teaming up with me using Nikya of the Old Ways as our respective commanders.. Since Nikya of the Old Ways denies me using non-creature spells when she's on the battlefield, I don't have to worry about Gaddock Teeg's effects and concentrate mostly on getting creatures out, which is the Gruul way of doing things anyway.
@psilimit
4 жыл бұрын
Things missed (I don't hate these personally): Meekstone (and friends)
@dannylut9711
5 жыл бұрын
I don't hate cards and I love that EDH gives people different ways to play. People just need to chill and think "Sometimes you win some and sometimes you lose some". Oh and yes, I play most of the cards on the list.
@MrYost-xx5bj
5 жыл бұрын
First time I have seen 666 likes.
@CadencePup
4 жыл бұрын
Grave Betrayal, whenever a creature dies, on the next end step it enters on your battlefield under your control with an additional +1/+1 counter. If you can get it out fast, and get some good quick kill spells, you can just steal everyones things and I love it
@robotoaster7894
5 жыл бұрын
I hate the win the game cards
@AntiCommunistSympathizer
4 жыл бұрын
Well I'm the elemental who will never settle down Wherever mana ramp is well you know than I'm around I piss on em when I'm played, cause your pain is all the same When I cascade into lethal, you'll all be cursing my name THEY CALL ME THE WANDERER! THE MAELSTROM WANDERER! I Cascade down, down, down, down, down... Seriously, Maelstrom Wanderer is evil and my brother is evil for using it as his commander.
@photosinensis
4 жыл бұрын
My sins, by category Stax and Tax: 1. Stasis: I did that once. In Gaybros group hug. There was apparently a betting pool on howl long it'd take me to put Stasis in there. Someone one a draft set. 2. Winter Orb: In Urza. Everybody hates it, especially when I tap it to float a blue at the end of the round. 3. Static Orb: In Urza. Ditto. 4. Back to Basics: In Urza. Unfair advantage: 1. Elesh Norn: Yep. In Gaybros Hugs 2. Cyclonic Rift: Every Blue deck I've built. 3. Aura Shards: Gaybros had some enchantment themes at one point. Aura Shards was nice there. 4. Consecrated Sphinx: I ran it in Baral. And then one time I managed to Windfall with it down. Woof. 5. Seedborn Muse: Gaybros Hugs. 6. Avacyn, Angel of Hope: Gaybros Hugs. Rules changes: I have a Gaddock Teeg, but I've never used it. I hosted a draft, and it was in the box. Chaos: 1. Warp World. It and its cousin The Great Aurora appeared in Gaybros. Buying your wins: 1. The Tabernacle at Pendrell Vale: It's in Urza. Elves players hate it. 2. Gaea's Cradle: It's in Ayula. It's what I pull out for a casual game. Oddly, while Cradle is very good in this deck, this deck isn't really doing much ridiculous bullshit with it. 3. Mana Drain: It's in Urza. Players with Ulamog in their libraries hate it. 4. Ugin, the Spirit Dragon: I've run him in Baral and Gaybros. I have a playset from drafting a ton of Fate Reforged. I win: 1. Omniscience: in Gaybros 2. Blightsteel Colossus: I did that in a Baral variant. 3. Ulamog, the Infinite Gyre found itself in my Gaybros deck, but I wasn't intending to cast it. It was anti-mill tech, but it came out the moment I Oath of Druids'ed into it. In "That's just annoying": 1. Rhystic Study: Did you pay the 1? (I've put it in every Blue deck I've ever built.) Annoying Commanders: 1. I've actually played the Atraxa precon. I bought it when it came out. But I've kept it stock all these years.
@xChikyx
5 жыл бұрын
i'm surprised how many of these i play in my decks ahhaha
@mikemoyer8162
5 жыл бұрын
After my own heart. I love when the game gets random and crazy. I have a rakdos flavor deck that is shorter on the wincons but makes everyone play rakdos style. Battle every turn. Discard/destroy. Mayhem and destruction for the great lord rakdos Edit: it has more than an handful of these cards list. Why I mention it. Get down sulfuric vortex and havoc festival... follow up with jokulhaups.
@xChikyx
5 жыл бұрын
@@mikemoyer8162 I have 2 stax deck, 1 taxes deck (augustin doesnt count, it's mostly counterspells), 2 land destruction decks, 1 chaos deck, and besides those ruination for example is a staple in my mono red decks, some of the annoying cards like rhystic study play in those blue decks that ai can afford it, and so on... putting stuff like that makes the game fun some times... Nothing better than a sire of insanity in my vaevictis deck that plays with no hand hahha
@mikemoyer8162
5 жыл бұрын
@@xChikyx I also run a norin and a muldrotha discard. I used to play zo-zu ld that was much loved. I have my version of cedh anje but I never play it, it's too much for people. Not exactly super fun to play either, but if it draws right it's a turn 3 win. That brings the salt beyond 4 haha. Edit: I've only busted it out twice. When I first made it and when some new guy was talking too much trash.
@mikemoyer8162
5 жыл бұрын
@@xChikyx sire of insanity is one of my favorite cards. I'd love to see wizards bring hellbent back.
@xChikyx
5 жыл бұрын
@@mikemoyer8162 it would be amazing as a new precon!
@Ouja
3 жыл бұрын
I hate being accused of pay to win. Dude, I've been playing since Revised. I got 50% of these cards from packs/starter decks, 5% from ante, 40% from trades, and 5% from bulk lots/singleton buys (and I never spend more than $10 on a single card and it's extremely rare I buy singles...I have bills to pay).
@minizoidjohn5552
4 жыл бұрын
Laboratory Maniac, Deadeye Navigator, Mossbridge Troll, Zegana Prime Speaker for fast wins by tapping any number creatures except for Deadeye to make mossbridge troll 25/25 and Exile/Return Zegana drawing 26 cards for each Blue and Colorless mana.
@aquilesvailo4786
5 жыл бұрын
It just happened yesterday. This guy was using Augustin (BW Token control) played Omniscience followed by Smokestacks followed and armageddon... everyone else was pissed.
@Boney_McBonerton
4 жыл бұрын
I dont find this card annoying, but I am shocked that Field of the dead got banned, considering I kinda thought it was useless when I first found it in a pack.
@MasterHigure
4 жыл бұрын
I ragequit after an opponent played time stretch. And then copied it. Twice. I sat down at that board because I wanted to play, damnit. Not because I wanted to watch him play solitaire for 15 minutes.
@valcandestr0yer
5 жыл бұрын
Wanna know what gets around land destruction? Counterspells. MONO U!!!!!!!!!!
@kwikdraw7332
4 жыл бұрын
There is a finite amount of fun to be had in any game of magic. Some people just want to have all of the fun. Also. How did Mill not make this list? Especially Mill for no reason (like a player playing Sphinx's Tutelage and Altar of the Brood in Tatyova, Benthic Druid)? If you're playing Chainer, Dementia Master? Go for it. You're fueling your game plan. But don't mill me just to mill me. And yes I mean you, Ulamog, the Ceaseless Hunger...
@Ultr4l0f
4 жыл бұрын
I uh.... I MIGHT have mixtured with a Red Green blue precon commander deck and put Ruination, Wake AND Worinclex in it. I never heard anyone complain but I felt bad for those I slammed sp i kinda stopped playing that deck. I MIGHT also have ways to cast spells from my graveyard and one or two more land destrucion spells in it....
@Yunjins_Beautiful_Mind
5 жыл бұрын
I pulled a Vorinclex from a GameStop's only IMA booster not knowing how much of a threat it can be. I put it in my deck, mainly focused on the mana doubling aspect while thinking "Eh, someone always has a method of removal, this can't be bad." I was wrong about that in our PG's meta. Whenever I summon Vorinclex, the table goes on full alert to Avengers Level Threat and jumps me lol
@Phoenixofanguish
4 жыл бұрын
People started talking about how I'm using the scarab God as a replacement for my gisa and geralf commander. I love it but people complain they just lose when he's on the board
@alexmusselman7090
4 жыл бұрын
Confusion in the Ranks draws out all the salt from everyone I've ever played my Norin deck against
@WiiTara
5 жыл бұрын
Regarding Land Destruction: I dont mind Mass Landdestruction if the player is able to win from that position. For example He*she has an Avacyn and blows up all of other players land to get in a huge winnig position or someone plays a board wipe and the Titania player plays a Natural Affinity to kill all lands but gets an army of 5/3s. The moment mass landdestruction really grinds my gears if someone plays it just for "fun" or to delay the whole game. Regarding controll effects: Since I play casual I am a fan of everyone trying their best and everyone having fun. Because of that I hate especially the "I take controll of permanent X" effects if the Deck is really like "Take controll"-Tribal. It feels a bit like Stax and Taxes, when your way of playing magic is not letting others play magic. Regarding Combo Wins: I dont have a problem with a well placed Combo Win. We cant all play "Lets dumb creatures on the board and hit each other until only one stands." Combo is a part of magic. The decks I dont like to play against are just the "I wanna combo as hard and fast as possible"-decks because games just are so quick and not very interactive for other players. This also applies to some Commanders I really feel are much stronger than others like Kaalia or Infect. If the game basically has to be Archenemy or player X wins, its not that fun in my opinion.
@DrakonLameth
4 жыл бұрын
I know there's one card in Arena that makes me salty with their Brawl mode (the closest officially sanctioned mode to Commander, but limited to online-only platforms), and that's Field of the Dead. Because everyone *loves* facing decks whose primary goal is to play a bunch of lands every turn and flood the field with 2/2 zombies... >.
@Worldwave
2 жыл бұрын
I think Render Silent is a good candidate because it just makes it so the one spell a player is able to cast that turn is countered and then they can't play. In 1v1's that's almost a time warp for WUU
@violetvulpine5356
4 жыл бұрын
Me. plays Phyrexian Rebirth and Armageddon, no one likes that. Don't touch our lands. Blue control player. I make infinite mana with this combo, I now have infinite life too, I name your commander you can no longer play that card, I can now play with your hand at no mana cost, I now take three turns after this one, I summon Ulamog you cannot block him because of (card) and attack over the next three turns you loose 30 health, exile 60 cards, I win. Is OK and allowed.
@damo9961
4 жыл бұрын
So say I'm playing my Theros, Sun Crowned deck. Would you rather I drop Walking Ballista to win the game or Armageddon to win the game? GTFO
@raymondjhorology
4 жыл бұрын
Best combo ive played was nissa worldwakers -7 put all lands from my library that also become 4/4 beasts eith trample. Gave Yorvo 39 counters , drew genisis wave , played leyline of abundance played genisis wave tapped all my lands for 2 and rofellos and genisis waved through my whole deck playing every permanent and giving omnath my commander who was already a 50/50 due to his floating mana ability gave him +35/35 and all creatures haste with trample 😝 won by trample / commander damage , they were salty af
@imaidiot9359
4 жыл бұрын
I was always hated at my store, because my Golos deck is just named Answers.dec and had a very hard time losing. However, everyone enjoys my new Yidris deck, that just basically throws everything, everywhere. With Scrambleverse, Warp World, Possiblity storm, and the list goes on.
@ylygylygynda
3 жыл бұрын
I used to have a Kambal deck and they HATED IT. Whenever I cast Kambal, my opponents tried to kill him on sight no matter who I played with. There was a game where I had to cast him 6 times. That's 15 mana, which is a hard thing to perform in Orzhov.
@farmonious420
4 жыл бұрын
3 most annoying cards; Naked Singularity, Knowledge Portal, and Quicksilver Fountain.
@brandoncooper129
4 жыл бұрын
Personally, I hate Vorinclex. It's a great card, I'm just annoyed I don't know anyone, this video included, that doesn't say "Vor-Ni-clex". Lol
@krunchyapples
4 жыл бұрын
I play EDH with a group of friends and I made a dimir ninja deck that focuses on bouncing, etb/ltb effects, and battlefield control for handling creatures. One of my friends decided to make a jund aristocrats deck with a Korvold commander which is usually manageable most of the time until he brings out either Grave Pact or Dictate of Erebos. If i haven't managed to counter it or gotten a lucky snag with Fallen Shinobi or Gonti then I'm fucked cos I won't be able to keep any creatures out long enough to get to my next turn. Being dimir i don't have much in the way of enchantment removal, but luckily everyone else absolutely hates those cards too and they often do have ways to get rid of it. By then he'll have a 15/15 Korvold anyways and about 6 other creatures. Oh, and he also has some graveyard retrieval that can target any card type, so it's not hard to guess what he'll be bringing back with that
@Vince5754Pro
5 жыл бұрын
Mine is Thieving Amalgam. Its a pain in the neck in any game I play, but what really took the cake was when Thieving Amalgam was combo'd with an ability to manifest ALL of the creatures in my graveyard. So rather than being killed traditionally, my friend took 8 creatures and played them as morphs, those died to board wipe, I took 16 damage and he gained 16 life, he then recovered the card from graveyard, played it *again,* another board wipe from a different player trying to survive dealt 16 more damage and killed me. 😒 I don't hold grudges between games, but as soon as Thieving Amalgam or Smothering Tide comes out, all bets are off hahaha
@Flosus
5 жыл бұрын
This might sound wired, but Im get not extremly salty playing against stacks decks. IF (and thats a big if) the players deck is a stacks deck. Which means the deck is build around these sort of effects and break symetri. I have a player in may playgroup who plays Stasis because he thinks ist "relaxing" and just a Draw X for everyone where X is the number of island he has, because nobody can do anything and just passes the turns... He plays also amagedon like efects in some of his decks. This gets me salty. My advise if you are thinking about playing some of these "salt cards" is: If you do it, do it right. You will become a bigger thread, but at least you know exactly what you are doing and profit from it and not drag a 2 hour game on for an other 1 hour.
@lisliaer7999
4 жыл бұрын
As someone who plays Butcher of Malikir in most of my deck, that Tainted Æther who make a LOT of people salty. Ever worse avenger of zendikar drops all those tokens getting sacrificed mmm board lockdown.
@TheMarkob89
4 жыл бұрын
Niv Mizzet, Parun.
@IronShinsDicello
2 жыл бұрын
Oh boy, had a deck that I feel bad about looking back. One of my first commander decks when the format was relatively new was a Jhoira of the Ghitu deck. Gameplan was suspending a giant eldrazi and then using extra turn spells to tick the time counters faster. As soon as a beefy creature was suspended, you would use the land destruction and board wipes to buy time before the big boys dropped. It was horrifying. As soon as I started playing it I realized the salt was warranted. The playstyle just didn't fit the casual nature of my playgroup and the format in general.
@seanclown1744
4 жыл бұрын
One of my friends once made a commander deck using narset and almost every extra turn card. It was gross and no one played against it
@enlightshadow4852
5 жыл бұрын
I cant even get salty at about half the cards that appeared after the land destruction and extra turns part... I only get salty if I'm purely targeted just because. Like... You ever just get so targeted at the start of a game that you lag so far behind and die turn 6 or 7 because your creatures are the ones that are countered? Your artifacts destroyed? Your enchantments exiled? Your tokens removed? THAT is annoying. I dont even mind playing against things like Sen Triplets and I'm quite surprised some things actually had a salt score above 2. I rarely mind Avacyn, Torpor Orb is fine, etc etc y'all get the point.
@thesarcasticliberal
4 жыл бұрын
Play Stasis + Wilderness Reclamation + Kismet + Black Vice for the ultimate salt generation. Only you are allowed to untap lands, all permanents your opponents control enter the battlefield tapped, and Black Vice slowly pings them down as their hand fills up with spells they cannot play (or they just give up).
@bobdole7127
4 жыл бұрын
I've watched several of these videos discussing faux-pas in Commander and I've come to the conclusion that the only way to prevent your opponent from acting like a petulant child is to beat them using three green 4/4's with no abilities. It has to be three, though, because if it was four, then it looks like you're comboing off to make a mass army and this will frustrate your opponent because... combos. If it was two, then it it's just embarrassing to lose to less than three creature, which would frustrate your opponent because... sand in vagina.
@camfunme
5 жыл бұрын
Magic is a zero-sum fun game, if you are having all the fun, no-one else is. Why would people continue to play with you if they're not having fun, because you're having it all. Any card that is great when I have it but horrible when anyone else does qualifies.
@samuelhowarth6571
5 жыл бұрын
I dunno why, but so many Izzet commanders tick me off. Like they're rewarded for doing things that everyone already wants to do. Locust God exemplifies this more than any other, though. There are three in my meta, and I hate it. Drawing cards should be it's own reward, dammit! Why does your boardstate get better too?
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