An excellent presentation! I recently visited an exhibit of Alicja Kwade's work at the Langen Foundation in Germany which was absolutely magnificent.
@contemporaryartissue
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much for watching and for your kind words. Alicja Kwade's work is indeed something special. I believe I saw some installation views from the show at Langen Foundation. Simply brilliant
@jaydubya3698
2 жыл бұрын
A few things: 1. What this video tells me is how curators claim to be always looking for the "next big thing" and yet seem to prefer work among contemporary installation artists that often have a similar look and a common set of materials: concrete, raw wood, mirrors, cloth, rope, rebar, stone, cardboard. I mean, if I see yet ANOTHER installation with a sculpture made of cardboard boxes, bent, crushed and tied together with rope and set near a pile of bricks and wall hangings of blank square wood panels that you can buy at Home Depot, I think I'll just set the whole damn thing on fire. It's lame. It's old. It's NOT fresh. 2. I tend to agree with Jerry Saltz' beef with works from artists like these five: often (not always) the ideas for the work seem to sit separate and apart from the work itself. The problem that I have with most of the work here (not all of it...some of it is good) is that even if there were explanations tied to the work, it STILL wouldn't be interesting to me. Explanations help to flesh out work like Agnes Martin paintings or installations by Felix Gonzalez-Torres, but not most of this stuff. In my mind, the work is too far removed from the ideas. 3. Many people who brand themselves as "conceptual" artists seem to worship at the alter of Richard Tuttle. In looking at the work of these five, much of it echoes his ideas about what art is about. I mean, I like to hear Richard Tuttle talk about his work, but most of the actual work itself isn't interesting to me: much of it just seems half-heartedly conceived, lazily executed and then dressed up with long, silver-tongued explanations about why the work is important. Again, this is old and tired.
@firestarter7680
2 жыл бұрын
the point is, for me, that the curators push conceptual art because then the public needs them, the curators, to explain why that thing is to be considered art. basically they are promoting themselve
@jaydubya3698
2 жыл бұрын
@@firestarter7680 There may be some of that, but I think it has more to do with embracing postmodernism to the extreme. Many curators, especially at large museums, want to be seen as not accepting institutional norms and as blowing up old narratives about what art is supposed to be. I think that's part of the reason why you see so much conceptual art that's deliberately obtuse. As far as they're concerned, if you don't get it, it doesn't matter because the artist and the curator don't really care if you get it or not. In addition, the explanation is more important than the work because craft is irrelevant. After all, that's an "old" way of thinking about art and anything that anyone makes can be considered art.
@contemporaryartissue
2 жыл бұрын
Hi Jay, thank you for tuning in and for your very interesting comment. I believe there is a strong case for all three points. With this list, we have used object data and career facts, as always. So the list indeed illustrates institutions and curators favor these types of multidisciplinary artworks strongly. There wasn't a painter, photographer or draughtsman in sight for miles while compiling this list. I agree when it comes to the distance between the work itself which is the vehicular medium of the idea, is often too far from the idea itself. Certain artist succeed in reinventing conceptual and installation art - otherwise why call them 'Neo'-concepualists. I believe, from this list, Gander, Kwade and Sala do a great job and even succeed in having a homogenous body of works.
@jaydubya3698
2 жыл бұрын
@@contemporaryartissue To me, Gander's and Kwade's work is hit and miss. Some of it is good, but most of it seems a bit derivative and is typical of what my comments were about. I mean, Gander: cloth hung on a picture frame? I've seen this type of image ALL OVER THE PLACE. It's not original in execution or concept. Kwade? A rock on the ground? Ummm...OK. Rocks on a metal ring? I can buy smaller versions of this stuff for my garden on Etsy. I'm not sure about Sala. From what's presented here, Attia's work seems to be the strongest and I like what I saw from Nkanga as well. I hate to sound like a dick and don't get me wrong...I'm totally NOT against these people making a living at what they're doing. Have at it...enjoy what you do and having people tell you you're a genius...make your money...travel around...get interviewed. That's awesome. It's just that I get frustrated with the pretense of artists and curators asking us "to question predetermined concepts or rationality and memory" when looking at a stump of wood in the middle of an empty room and suggesting that it's new or enlightening or truthful because the fact is, it's not. I may suggest something to you, but it suggests nothing to me. And that's the whole point.
@contemporaryartissue
2 жыл бұрын
@@jaydubya3698 I don't think at all you are being a dick. It is absolutely your right to share what you think and it makes sense as well so don't worry! For the case of Gander, the cloth on the mirror is actually marble resin. Makes it an entirely different artwork... Kwade can sometimes be a bit predictable indeed. Yes, Attia and Nkanga are strong indeed!
@airtimedroneguy6449
Жыл бұрын
The history is great
@contemporaryartissue
Жыл бұрын
Thank you 🙏
@fatoomgierdien2181
2 жыл бұрын
Wow wow..... THANK YOU.
@contemporaryartissue
2 жыл бұрын
The pleasure is ours, thank you for tuning in!
@arthurwild2046
2 жыл бұрын
Anri Sala and Kader Attia both work in France. Kader had a gallery in Paris before and was closed last year because of Covid, he was just named as curator of Berlin Biennale; Anri Sala once studied in Paris and represented France at the Venice Biennale.
@artlifealways...
Жыл бұрын
Nice...artlife always i2f the artist...one love...blessings...51
@contemporaryartissue
Жыл бұрын
Blessings to you too!
@MakhdoomSadiqKhan
2 жыл бұрын
Wow awesome ❤️💞
@contemporaryartissue
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for tuning in!
@squarz
2 жыл бұрын
I can't honestly blame who is really estranged from contemporary art.
@contemporaryartissue
2 жыл бұрын
These seven artists aren't of course representative for the entire contemporary art scene. The results of this research indicate that neoconceptual multimedia artists do better at institutions, art prizes and biennials
@squarz
2 жыл бұрын
@@contemporaryartissue yeah this art is not made for people but for established institutions
@willjooo
2 жыл бұрын
@@contemporaryartissue Yeah right, elitist navel gazing. If you have to explain things with an essay throwing in sociological, political, philosophical, ethnological, blah, blah, blah....concepts, it is art that connects with, engages, and enriches very few people. I love art. I love contemporary art, but this stuff I just walk right past - I've got much better things to do then waste my time on this.
@hazelwray4184
2 жыл бұрын
@Michael Mach does beauty threaten the political establishment?
@firestarter7680
2 жыл бұрын
@@squarz and curators
@jhb61249
9 ай бұрын
I was born with crayons and paint brushes in my hands. I began formal art studies just after earning my BA degree. I have studied and produced for over 50 years. I love learning and looking at most art, but this is not included. It's just so boring to me. And yet I stare for days at good minimal painting and drawing. I'm just not interested in decoding riddles and trying to figure out what someone might have been thinking or feeling when they took a dump and left the shit behind.
@vandolmatzis8146
2 жыл бұрын
William Kentridge
@contemporaryartissue
2 жыл бұрын
William Kentridge was born in '55 so could not be included. Thank you for tuning in!
@erendiravioleta
2 жыл бұрын
What about Sarah She, she should be on the list.
@contemporaryartissue
2 жыл бұрын
Sarah Sze was born in 1969 while this list takes on artists born after 1970. But great shout!
@dumuzidtherisingphoenix
2 жыл бұрын
why this artist is influential? are they influenced other artist or they just famous?
@contemporaryartissue
2 жыл бұрын
Both! In particular since the 2010s, they have been so present in the art world they have influenced many artists at this very moment. Further, they are indeed the seven most famous artists today born after 1970
@firestarter7680
2 жыл бұрын
@@contemporaryartissue the art world, yeah right,
@AlessandroCardano
2 жыл бұрын
Honorable mention goes to Jose Dávila, Mexican architect and sculptor with works in public and private galleries across the world. =One Love= -A
@contemporaryartissue
2 жыл бұрын
Excellent suggestion! Thank you Alejandro for sharing and for tuning in.
@johnjones3714
2 жыл бұрын
Some Attia a bit like Carl Andre
@contemporaryartissue
2 жыл бұрын
I agree!
@blackwoodmills5860
2 жыл бұрын
Honestly I'm so happy true art is starting to go through a renaissance right now, the wretched mess that was the 20th century modernism is slowly going away to give back the much more deserved space to real artists who spent years training to develop skills in drawing abd painting in the same vein as the great art from 1500 to 1900. That is the future.
@contemporaryartissue
2 жыл бұрын
However, one may not be reactionary. Skill for the sake of skill seems a bit hollow in today's art world. A new synthesis is necessary for sure. Modernism refused any form of tradition, (post-)postmodern re-embraces it
@aquelpibe
2 жыл бұрын
Can you please explain what you mean, "the wretched mess (of) 20th century modernism"? Modernism did not reject traditional painting skills. I think you are talking about something else.
@leuse5614
2 жыл бұрын
@@aquelpibe think pollock, splashes of paint that (i'm gonna say it) literally a child could squirt on a canvas Like yeah we get it you're totally breaking the tradition and what not but it's getting kinda boring a single of each abstract, super minimalist, hyper expressive artwork would've done the job, the second of its kind was already beating a dead horse, let's put this trend to bed PLEASE it's so boring Like, you can be expressive while still withholding even an ounce of skill boomer
@aquelpibe
2 жыл бұрын
@@leuse5614 I would prefer that Blackwood Mills answered the question of why he/she thinks 20th century Modernism was a "wretched mess". You may like or dislike Pollock and Abstract Expressionists in general, but Abstract Expressionism is a small subset of Modernism, and Modernism has produced some of the finest art ever. To say that the works of Matisse, Picasso, and so many other luminaries is a "wretched mess" is the thinking of a Nineteeth Century conservative. Go back to Bougereau and Academic painting then. Most of today´s painting is Academic anyway, that kind of painting never left so there is plenty to choose from. By the way, what does it even mean, to "withhold an ounce of skill boomer"? You lost me there.
@UVbabyy
2 жыл бұрын
@@leuse5614 it is not about who can make them. It is the human energy/movement captured in a painting
@kenjohnson6326
2 жыл бұрын
I never want to hear the fucking word "oeuvre" again in my life. I don't mind a little bullshit, but not 90% bullshit, which is being generous about this commentary. Excuse me now, while I have a whiskey and "question experience."
@fredsalfa
2 жыл бұрын
“Geographica” that’s an interesting word
@ericswain4177
Жыл бұрын
The Most Influential Artists Born after 1970 ? Why because you said so ?
@reethkitchards
2 жыл бұрын
Glorification of youth. Most of these artists are nothing more than clones of Pistiletto and Robert Smithson.
@contemporaryartissue
2 жыл бұрын
Interesting, I believe they are very different than Pistoletto or Smithson
@samuelmuiga3101
2 жыл бұрын
I loved the installation of the legs before the countdown and the flag with still life on top at no. 4, very compelling. There are some "art pieces" I've seen that made me question if they are artworks or just lazy productions.Sometimes beauty isn't the hindrance to creating compelling art. Sometimes the artist simply has nothing to say. It really shows.However,those two installations are very worthy artworks.Without reading any tag or hearing any explanation I can latch on to the conversation,no. 7 was good too, I'd have him higher on my list even though his work isn't my cup of tea. He did have atleast 3 pieces that were great.
@contemporaryartissue
2 жыл бұрын
Hi Samuel, thank you for tuning in and for sharing your honest and must appreciated thoughts. There are certainly some 'art pieces' in here. I agree on no. 7, Ryan Gander. He is in fact my personal favorite from this list and would love to see him ranked a bit higher. I strongly recommend to discover more of his works, preferably in real life during a show of course. They are actually really refined, humorous and often very beautiful too.
@fvkc-r-e_2_d_9th-pwr14
2 жыл бұрын
While I am glad you focused on thoughtful conceptually based work, you might as well have called this video, "The Most Influential European Artists Born After 1970", or even "The Most Influential Berlin Based Artists Born After 1970". Seriously, you have no North Americans, no South Americans, one transplanted African, and Only Dahn Vo kinda from Asia. Where is Sterling Ruby, Adrián Villar Rojas, Wangechi Mutu, Adrian Ghenie, Mickalene Thomas, Kaari Upson (RIP), Tauba Auerbach, Cao Fei, or any other number of artists more deserving than many on your list? ...Well, at least there was no KAWS, that's good.
@contemporaryartissue
2 жыл бұрын
One Asian artist, two West European artists, two East European artists, one African artist and one North-African artist. In any case, the list was created by an algorithm so we have no part at all in favoring certain regions, but maybe the art world still has of course. Great anthology of artists though! Thanks for sharing
@ard52192
Жыл бұрын
Not a single American artist on the list. Might we be a little biased? You really should put a qualifier on there: European Artist and idk have links to other videos or channel that covers this. It’s not a good look.
@contemporaryartissue
Жыл бұрын
It is ironic to see how some of these top lists are maligned for promoting too many American artists, but if there aren't any, the algorithm for these lists is all of a sudden to Eurocentric. The algorithm does not favor anyone from anywhere, it simply ranks the artists based on objective career facts. Nevertheless, thank you for tuning in!
@stephenedds9264
2 жыл бұрын
Sorry, all of this is just painfully awful
@jennyhughes4474
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this but I must be too old/uneducated: most of this stuff says nothing to me - maybe because I'm not there?
@contemporaryartissue
2 жыл бұрын
Not necessarily I believe. In any case, thank you for tuning in!
@DanielLopes-jt8yl
Жыл бұрын
Cool! Age and ethnicity don’t matter. Culture identity? There is none. The appropriate appropriation’s have been made. Transcending culture a myth? Not anymore. Imagine where this is going. Wasn’t always this way. Happiness is watching it happen. Yes Jimmy Cricket, when you wish upon a star makes no difference who you are, your dreams come true- “whops there it is”. Thanks CAI! If things keep going as implied post modernist (unknowing?) lead us to a multi-racial/cultural art experience? The intellectual meanderings of it’s theory oft criticized; blended into a sublime “combine”. The appropriate appropriations? A humanistic symbioses revealing a new art to come?
@contemporaryartissue
Жыл бұрын
Hi Daniel, thank you for tuning in and for sharing your thoughts. I appreciate it!
@carmelocaatrad6691
Жыл бұрын
Mas trozos de NADA
@macmccreadie8541
Жыл бұрын
My can they talk up a storm.
@louisearrowsmith5127
Жыл бұрын
Lazy. Uninspired. A.I. voice commentary is the cherry on the cake.
@aquelpibe
2 жыл бұрын
Mostly Germany based artists. Are they really the most influential? Never heard of any of them, and find them decidedly underwhelming.
@contemporaryartissue
2 жыл бұрын
The top three indeed resides and works in Berlin. They are very influential, for sure. Almost every important foundation, institution, biennale or museum has had a show with one of them. Maybe they are not so well known yet because they are so important for only the past 10 to 15 years in comparison to the artists who were active during the previous century
@aquelpibe
2 жыл бұрын
@@contemporaryartissue Thank you for your comment. I find Alicja Kwade´s work very interesting. The rest I can live without.
@celadon7
2 жыл бұрын
Amazing, you never uttered the words climate change, you got in every other postmodern global problem as an explanation for this stuff. No more logs, rocks or instruments posing as art.
@robcoghan5204
2 жыл бұрын
Whinny except for Alicia ,Sala and Atia
@contemporaryartissue
2 жыл бұрын
Gander is one of my personal favorites to be honest, lots of humor in his work
@marianomarini775
Жыл бұрын
Te most influencias artista norn after 1970, all them.living and working in Berlín!!! Jajaja , bit biassed isnit?? Jaja no wonder they artists of your gallery , juaaaaa!!!!?
@contemporaryartissue
Жыл бұрын
We do not represent a single artist from this list. The list was assembles using an algorithm ranking all artists based on objective career facts to see which artists are the most pertinent in today's art world. So there is no personal opinion or bias involved in the selection. It rather illustrates that Berlin is one of most important art cities today
@marianomarini775
Жыл бұрын
@@contemporaryartissue and you are german , cummon!! Whats the name of your algoritm , sigfried 01 !!!
@contemporaryartissue
Жыл бұрын
@@marianomarini775 I am not German... The algorithm is by Artfacts
@tommymanuel8687
Жыл бұрын
Wow, that's a lot of bullshit in one video. The only thing that actually made sense was that installation with women buried in sand. 😂
@ravibedi1939
2 жыл бұрын
Is this a joke?
@leniruess1719
Жыл бұрын
it's a no from me
@rudolfkalman4832
2 жыл бұрын
Tam bol šuter😂
@greenleaf9042
2 жыл бұрын
Wtf is this
@cliffdariff74
2 жыл бұрын
The art here looks rather too clinical, and dare I say gimmicky with exhausting labels... and do we really want to see an artist personal histories and mental issues?
@contemporaryartissue
2 жыл бұрын
Hi Cliff, thank you for tuning in and for your very interesting comment. I believe I agree, and it is also interesting they are very similar in this way, all seven. It indicates the art world's preferences, promoting multidisciplinary socio-political, personal and critical artworks.
@contemporaryartissue
2 жыл бұрын
@Michael Mach I agree 100%. Ghenie's work is indeed very direct and moving. No extra context is needed to enjoy his works
@rutbrea8796
2 жыл бұрын
To me this kind of "art" is garbage. Who's behind this to convince people this is art? That's the question 😜⁉️😜😂
@albertinsinger7443
2 жыл бұрын
I would like to know about new mature artists over the age of 60. Young artists are still learning. Any artists under 60 is not worth mentioning.
@contemporaryartissue
2 жыл бұрын
Our video on the most famous painters today consisted of mainly painters above 60, feel free to have a look
@veim22222
2 жыл бұрын
Ageism
@jennyhughes4474
2 жыл бұрын
I'm over 60 & am almost a beginner: always so very much to learn & experiment with; what does age have to do with it?!
@contemporaryartissue
2 жыл бұрын
@@jennyhughes4474 I agree with Jenny 100% for this one. Well put
@albertinsinger7443
2 жыл бұрын
@@jennyhughes4474 I am interested in mature artists who have been working for plus’s 40 years. All artists that are young or just starting out like you I am not interested in. You might ask me why? The reason is simple. It takes about 20 years just to learn how to hold a brush and about 30 years to really understand colors. It takes about 30 years to really find something to say of significance and that is if you are lucky. Most artists never find anything to really say or add.
@justinferguson9779
2 жыл бұрын
Nice but not what I would call great art.
@stlapierre
2 жыл бұрын
temporary CON ART
@ericswain4177
2 жыл бұрын
Wow, Contemporary Art has gotten bad. No real talent needed. ! if you can assemble random or odd Sh#t plus Branding, Marketing, and ambiguous ridiculous concepts then you are the contemporary artist today and this is the new way.
@jennyhughes4474
2 жыл бұрын
Sadly I mostly agree: I must be too old, uneducated or lacking in imagination - or all these?!
@ericswain4177
2 жыл бұрын
No @@jennyhughes4474 your not, I do a lot of Art related research and there is still a lot of great art out there to enjoy. I encourage you to patronize the galleries with art you like and don't be afraid to say when asked whether you like a artwork or not to politely say yes or no, if you do not that's all you have to say. If enough people say no then I would hope the curator of the gallery would change the exhibition to meet the people's desires.
@jennyhughes4474
2 жыл бұрын
@@ericswain4177 Thank you, I hardly go out anywhere now (brain injury & other injuries & mobility problems & coz dumped/neglected get very low & everything feels pointless now) so don't go to art galleries either, I look at art online but I know that isn't the same. I still try to do my art but it hurts so much to do & mostly it's quite rubbish: I only like it if it stands my test of time & I would like it on my wall! Thanks.
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