Scouting tutorial AND comprehensive documentary on a prolific cheater? Take my comment for the algorithm bro😭
@edgeman1135
10 сағат бұрын
Heartwarming: there is a legitimate reason to hate the person you already disliked.
@athaya2992
4 сағат бұрын
real asf
@LKenjiF
3 сағат бұрын
I remember one of Hersons recently uploaded videos was Andrew and some other player just yapping. Super annoying and unfunny, but I assumed Andrew was just an irritating individual. Even people like myself who aren't that great at civ6 can clearly see how bad Andrew's moves should be.
@Sam-kh5pb
20 минут бұрын
this comment proves nicely how this whole farsical investigation, some would say witchhunt, was succesful!
@PotatoMcWhiskey
Сағат бұрын
Damn, i need to play more MP I can't believe this guy tried to doctor screenshots
@6leumas6
Сағат бұрын
Yes potato we DO need more MP videos!!! 🙏🏻
@kb8619
45 минут бұрын
@@6leumas6 Agree
@T2002W
28 минут бұрын
With your influence within the Civ community, a few videos about Civ6 MP could give the MP scene a bit of a boost!
@LKenjiF
5 минут бұрын
We would love to see you compete in CPL
@vaidast739
10 сағат бұрын
Not playing civ for a month when cheating method is not working is mad. It means he doesn't even like the game. It's just for internet points.
@Waggabagaboo
10 сағат бұрын
Taking a hiatus like that implies long time use of the cheating method and complete insecurity without it.
@karthikeyan020
8 сағат бұрын
It is also possible that he doesn’t want to damage his rating point advantage as ranking even 2nd in any casual lobby could seriously reduce his lead. This also explains why he doesn’t use the information moderately. It’s because even this cheating can only advance his game start by a small amount. Converting a bad start to a decent start or a decent start to a good start.
@512TheWolf512
2 сағат бұрын
or he doesn't enjoy the game *as much* without an advantage. some people just enjoy screwing over others
@blaubeer8039
3 минут бұрын
may have been simply calculated: he's so reliant on it to maintain his rank that playing a month without it would *immediately* expose what's been going on. quite mad either way.
@NotFlappy12
11 сағат бұрын
The edited screenshots in the appeal completely seal the deal. This removes even the tiniest bit of doubt that he was somehow just lucky in every single game.
@Deadlyspark
6 сағат бұрын
Yeah, it really removes any doubt. Tampering with evidence automatically makes him guilty, or else why hide it?
@CustodianShieldCaptain
4 сағат бұрын
Herson narrates well, just when one set of evidence seemed damning enough the hits just keep on coming and getting worse.
@mephistopheles1949
9 сағат бұрын
12:15 "There is clear best move that any strong player would spot immediately" Well well well. I'd say that I never did consider myself as a strong player but here I am.
@MJ-in2xt
7 сағат бұрын
Funny I got to that part and thought “wow I’m so bad that if I won a game people would accuse me of cheating!”
@arctoses4973
11 сағат бұрын
7:00 This video was made because someone called herson's scouting trash
@GretaHenrici-d8o
11 сағат бұрын
cheating on civ 6 is crazy lmao
@nilsp9426
9 сағат бұрын
Sadly almost all games attract a cheater at some point, especially if there are rankings involved. Some of them would even have been very succesful without cheating. One good comparison is Riolu cheating in several Trackmania titles. He was only able to cheat without streaming. He regularly broke records while streaming. But somehow it seems like he thought he deserved the ones he didn't get. He then frequently got them offline using a software that slowed down the game, granting him superhuman precision. Maybe Andrew's case is similar: maybe he was frustrated with bad luck at the beginning of the game, thinking he deserved better. He does seem like a decent player, since no one suspected him cheating before and he was able to convert his early advantages so often.
@SadL1337
11 сағат бұрын
Ok.. I just saw that settler at 15:00 ..this is crazy! not moving the scout first is SO damning.. none would do that!
@SadL1337
11 сағат бұрын
and then at 19:05 ..well.. I am without words
@abelgonzalez158
11 сағат бұрын
So blatant!
@TheBaron48
10 сағат бұрын
like u should be banned for that move even if u are not cheating, for throwing or hurting my eyes😂
@TheBaron48
10 сағат бұрын
and he had to think for like a solid 5 seconds before making that move, its enough time to not make that move just to not arouse suspicion🤣
@jonathanbauer2988
8 сағат бұрын
the only time any of those moves could be natural is if it was me playing, because 5 hours in I'm going to be braindead and do inefficient things- the difference is that I will not be getting lucky 100% of the time xD I am just actually bad
@sillyboy9314
11 сағат бұрын
Andrew "I love cheating and stomping low level lobbies" CIVPLAYER
@blatantmoose454
10 сағат бұрын
Maybe we should put him against zuck in the civ 1v1
@RocketPropelledMexican
10 сағат бұрын
He really ain't beating the elo pedo allegations
@rift8966
10 сағат бұрын
I was sold on him cheating just by you guys painting the path of his scouts and warriors going straight towards goodie huts and city states. His edited appeal photos sealed the deal, lol.
@christianj.bardsnes2394
11 сағат бұрын
I remember first watching UnderCiv playing CPL way back, and Andrew was always such a meme in the chat or as a joke in the games due to his weird play style. Just absolutely griefing, its gonna be weird watching now after this revelation, if he takes the shame and leaves the game for good. Either way, good work by the CPL admins and to Herson for explaining in such detail and with evidence for us non-CPL players, who just send their scout in what looks like the best direction in the moment
@mjohnstone2399
9 сағат бұрын
Watch UnderCiv a lot and always wonder who Andrew was with that timeout in chat. Used it once for the memes. lol
@512TheWolf512
Сағат бұрын
reminds me of how dream was caught. him refusing to name the "statistician" he "hired" was the admission of guilt for me. if you have haters, they will always find a way to get to you
@liampouncy7808
10 сағат бұрын
I find this whole situation really quite funny. It would be one thing if he was an upstanding pillar of the community, but from what I've seen it isn't like he was particularly well liked. Good riddance.
@athaya2992
4 сағат бұрын
tbh if he was a good/nice person he wouldnt cheat hahah
@pimppenguin511
8 сағат бұрын
Oh man, someone call an ambulance. What a slam dunk. I watched the entire thing. Really appreciate the thorough analysis and all the work you and the CPL team do. Thank you. Also great vid.
@raw1175
7 сағат бұрын
This makes the Herson vs the world video even funnier
@dogetube-7193
4 сағат бұрын
That’s exactly what I thought of, it was so recent too
@grippercrapper
11 сағат бұрын
Herson for public prosecutor 🇺🇸
@adamguthrey6160
11 сағат бұрын
Bruh, I remember you jokingly referring to Andrew as a cheater a few months ago in your videos! was that before or after the investigation started?
@beemz8841
10 сағат бұрын
In all fairness it didn't feel very... Joking? It felt more calling him out for playing in a bizarre manner and lo and behold
@beraor4296
8 сағат бұрын
many people have been calling andrew a cheater for a long time
@jimystimz4731
5 сағат бұрын
I followed that scouting advice in my last PvE game and it revealed my continent so much faster. thanks.
@ALittleMessi
Сағат бұрын
The advice to load it into replay or scout better? 😉
@matsiv5707
10 сағат бұрын
Wake up Babe, The video about Andrew is finally out. Shame he didn't release a diss track instead of a document for appealing
@kiranearitachi
11 сағат бұрын
I need to take the plunge and actually join a novice game instead of being intimidated im going to die
@kamilkarczmarczyk9445
11 сағат бұрын
I was playin before novice games was so popular like nowadays. On 10 games 9 times I was on last position, my record was to die on Korea from scytia in 38 turns. It’s good to go on novice to train mid game and late uncontested (usually), but get experience on normal ffa, you will learn how be aware of what ur opponents do, instead of focus only on your own development. Good luck
@yetitobediscovered
10 сағат бұрын
its really not as bad as you think! I recently started playing a few months ago, you got this! Just make sure you understand all the rules and have the right mods:)
@fosterwalrus8413
10 сағат бұрын
Yo true I’ve never played a cpl game before wanna play one XD
@kiranearitachi
10 сағат бұрын
@fosterwalrus8413 do you want to i have 2 others who were interested in a super novice game with just 4 of us dm me same name in the server
@SkyForceOne2
10 сағат бұрын
well, now that Andrew ("the novice stomper") is gone, you dont have to fear :)
@dogetube-7193
4 сағат бұрын
Writing that long of an appeal document knowing damn well you’ve been cheating for a hot minute is crazy, he really has no shame
@hitchikerspie
10 сағат бұрын
Man this is years of hatred being justly unleashed
@dashyz3293
11 сағат бұрын
This happened similarly a while back with a friend of mine's teammate. I don't wanna name any names, but he was toxic, insufferable to listen to(according to my friend), and would constantly ask his teammates to do certain scouting moves that suspiciously ended up always working.
@CoolCong-nz4rt
9 сағат бұрын
Starts with A?
@Hifuutorian
2 сағат бұрын
@@CoolCong-nz4rt Starts with A?
@zaphery1
10 сағат бұрын
Really similar to catching cheaters in chess. You have the most human move and then you have the top engine move.
@guardrailavender
10 сағат бұрын
But in this case, it’s even worse. Not even a hypothetical Civ 6 engine could make the moves that Andrew did because Andrew was moving based on information that an engine wouldn’t have.
@luka188
10 сағат бұрын
Andrew was playing civ like he was playing chess. With perfect information. While all other players and even the hypothetical perfect civ engine would be playing with imperfect information. Literally making better moves than any hypothetical perfect Civ engine moves could ever be.
@nilsp9426
9 сағат бұрын
But it is even clearer than that. In chess you could always have some doubt that somehow the player was smart enough to find the engine move (at least with players who do not cheat >500 Elo points above their true level). You need to find a clear pattern. But here, the pattern of movement makes no sense with the information he should have had. "I know best how scouting works" doesn't apply here, since no level of skill (beyond computing the seed number to a map in your brain and then memorizing it perfectly, which is ridiculous) could achieve what he did.
@tajemniczywasacz
6 сағат бұрын
@@nilsp9426 Playing a move or game like over 500 elo above is not that impossible to happen. There are players that are good with puzzles but suck in game. Like me for example. For reference i have 1200 elo rapid and 2400 elo in puzzles lol
@nilsp9426
57 минут бұрын
@@tajemniczywasacz tldr: you are not great at puzzles and bad at games, the rating system is not at all comparable for the two.
@jacksonvaneekeren5660
5 сағат бұрын
As someone new to Civ 6 thank you for the scouting tutorial and the interesting deep dive into a competetive online community I did not know existed.
@znJakobnz
10 сағат бұрын
The blue cs minimaps are crazy. also, ain't no way the Andrew disdain was warranted, you sensed it.
@512TheWolf512
Сағат бұрын
nah, I don't think so. I think he was a hater first for unrelated reasons, then investigator second.
@reckutragebbe3864
9 сағат бұрын
Andrew was the biggest villain on the civ 6 community I has ever know.
@chessguy99
7 сағат бұрын
You haven't met Esdeath.
@insceldaron
9 сағат бұрын
19:23 these Scientific City State maps are absolutely crazy. Even speaking as a "bad" Civ player by the standards of this channel, who doesn't do competitive multiplayer: this is so blatantly map-hacked
@JK-qi7pp
10 сағат бұрын
The ridiculous thing is that Andrew would still be a good player without cheating. Probably not absolute top tier but a great player nonetheless. It's abominable to ruin the integrity of CPL in such an unnecessary fashion purely for his own enjoyment.
@grippercrapper
9 сағат бұрын
@@JK-qi7pp There’s no doubt Andrew is a good player. The problem with being a good player is that other people will rise to the challenge and create a deadlock. Andrew is using this cheating stuff to get that extra lift over the other good players. No matter how hard his competition worked to get ahead of him, they had no chance unless they were willing to do the same thing. It’s all too human.
@ЕвгенийСмирнов-у7с
7 сағат бұрын
I would say the game of civ where everything goes right and everything is meh has such a different experience and result afterwards.
@willywonka6487
3 сағат бұрын
he isnt good. he doesnt know how to scout. He has no experience. If in a random lobby without cheating he would be back of the pack
@Hifuutorian
2 сағат бұрын
That's something that is true for all cheating competitive players. You see it a lot with speedrunners who know exactly what they have to do but cheat to remove the elements of luck that would get in their way, etc.
@ALittleMessi
53 минут бұрын
A lot of cheaters are often decent to great players. At least the cheaters going on to break records or hold leaderboard spots. That's one thing all of these cheaters videos have taught me
@hamhead88
11 сағат бұрын
Much awaited vid
@hamhead88
11 сағат бұрын
Also you didn’t mention that he insulted my religion and two days later god smited him 🙏🤙🤙
@hamhead88
10 сағат бұрын
For the record, he also said I would chose the wife beating pantheon.
@talotalo1192
10 сағат бұрын
@@hamhead88ur religion is more dishonest than adrew will ever be
@classicrockdude7508
5 сағат бұрын
lmao i love how this video was recommended to me, none of the topics are relevant to me yet I enjoyed it. I have no idea who Andrew is, but "Boooooo!!!! you stink!". Thanks for the educational and entertaining video about a game used to play.
@bjrntop7484
10 сағат бұрын
He really is the wirtual of civ 6
@fosterwalrus8413
10 сағат бұрын
I somehow feel like only 8 people will get this reference but I agree with you and I love them for that.
@mewr11
10 сағат бұрын
I had the exact same thought, like "wow this is giving off trackmania cheating video vibes"
@ALittleMessi
44 минут бұрын
The Wirtual and Karl Jobst fans giving him a round of applause
@owendressel7052
11 сағат бұрын
Kino is served
@adamcako5281
10 сағат бұрын
didn't know CSI is getting a reboot
@ryanw3269
11 сағат бұрын
I have been praying on Andrews downfall tbh
@masterfaber1174
7 сағат бұрын
Your dedication to the community is unparalleled, bravo!
@FostedFlake
10 сағат бұрын
This reminds me of when I watched one of your 5 month old vods and someone mentioned Andrew only making 1 scout instead of 2, I suppose you don’t need the second one if you alrea know where everything is
@fosterwalrus8413
10 сағат бұрын
Idk much about cpl but I play casually with AI and I almost always got a scout into Warrior into Settler XD didn’t know two scouts was so broken
@FostedFlake
10 сағат бұрын
@@fosterwalrus8413 they usually have very few barbs plus the ai starts with extra stuff so you kinda need the barb for single player
@athaya2992
3 сағат бұрын
@@fosterwalrus8413barbs in cpl are much more civilized compared to single player ones lol it makes sense to make warrior first
@thefastestgnomeinthewest7426
11 сағат бұрын
damn you andrew...
@T2002W
33 минут бұрын
That Mali game from 2 months ago suddenly makes a whole lot of sense. This guy was far more evil than we suspected.
@harjutapa
8 сағат бұрын
So I've learned two things from this video: 1) Andrew is a cheating sonuvab. 2) top tier MP civ players are making a ridiculous number of decisions factoring in a ton of nuanced data points on seemingly minor choices like which tile to move a scout. Y'all are bonkers.
@attilaedem101
5 сағат бұрын
Those moves sound more complicated than they are... im just a casual singleplayer civ player, who is not even playing on the hardest difficulty, and even i make the moves the pros are making mentioned in the video. Its basically become a "memory move", something you do instinctively after a while without thinking about it, just by playing the game casually... Which is why Andrew's abnormal moves are SOOOO anomalous actually... At the level Andrew was supposed to be these abnormalousmoves are actually the ones, which require actual brainwork to even just CONSIDER, instead of just go for the reflexive, standard moves...
@athaya2992
3 сағат бұрын
i think its already muscle memory for them lol
@Freecell82
19 минут бұрын
I mean, it's just a heuristic. The fact that he's able to explain the moves you should be making in a few sentences tells you it's really not THAT complicated.
@sol_in.victus
6 сағат бұрын
I dont play Civ6 in multiplayer, but it seems like a database of savefiles would be a really good addition to you guys' server, im sure it could be somehow automated and would be great if new cheaters were to pop up to have solid information on games
@thetzar2573
3 сағат бұрын
I'd be more worried about sporadic cheating, where they use some of the map, some of the time, and just have an advantage over the rest of the player base. Unless there just isn't an advantage to be had by being less optimal, I think anyone who is determined to cheat can end up having some plausible deniability.
@Nullpersona
2 сағат бұрын
If they had put even a little effort into obfuscating their actions, this would have been impossible to find. Scout while it loads, adjusting later, to reduce delay. Path to high terrain for vision, and flat terrain for distance, before committing, even if it eats up a few turns. Always moving scouts first into an area before settlers. Building extra scouts just to clear fog. Sure, it might cost a few games in the long run, but still would have provided enough advantage to keep the top spot. Pigs get fat, hogs get slaughtered. If the competitive scene wanted to curb this activity, ranked local save games could be limited to the movement range of units each turn, with a server hosting the complete map. This would prevent use of replay or map vision tools, as well as providing an archive of every game, resolving two issues with one auditable solution.
@Erkoltz
10 сағат бұрын
Mark Zuckerberg 1v1 when
@Jonathanizer
5 сағат бұрын
Thank you (and others) for the many hours you put into investigating this and for explaining this to the community!
@mhse5825
40 минут бұрын
Me scouting: I go this way Herson: Any sensible player would go that (other) way Me: Yes yes! What was I thinking. Ofc I would go that way
@hasbeenbefore
25 минут бұрын
How Civ6 handles cheaters in multiplayer mode. Anti cheat: 🙅♂ Unstable network code: 👌
@glasspaper3
11 сағат бұрын
Wait Herson is your pfp a cute Taliyah icon? If so, extremely based
@paradoxdriver4094
10 сағат бұрын
Considering Herson was a challenger level Taliyah main...
@onebadidea9825
9 сағат бұрын
Now i wanna see the replay when ToA was snagged out from under you when he was playing as Canada. Absolute bull that hes done this for so long to so many people.
@SamvanderGraaf
8 сағат бұрын
great as video, ur getting really good at commentary videos, very wel though out and stil fun, enjoyed it!
@torgor_
11 сағат бұрын
I'd heard it was obvious but not OBVIOUS obvious jesus H christ
@jayjaxx2211
2 сағат бұрын
Solid video. You tracing scout moves did prompt the idea that there exists perfect scout moves, and a tool could be built to determine them, both with perfect and using only known information. Almost like a chess engine. Improving scouting play in general.
@Vladimir5024
24 минут бұрын
Bro...imagine seeing the entire map in CiV 6. The funniest part of the entire 6+ hours game is literally first 50 turns. Finding out where to settle a few cities and wobders and huts and barbs and other civs. Like if I saw entire map I would not have fun in the slightest....
@IzzRei
10 сағат бұрын
I really appreciate you making this vid and seeing the methodology of detection as well as what it looks like when a player is scamming their community. As Karl Jobst says, “cheaters are essentially time thieves”. I don’t play civ6 multi but I would be a bit too happy to see this player removed from the community. I like this sort of content, even the drama side of it. Was there any backlash, any Andrew apologists causing trouble? What’s Andrew doing now? Andrew aside, what other cheats were found and handled?
@belegaranchampionofarnor8906
9 сағат бұрын
These videos on the competitive side of civ is really interesting. Who actually first raised the suspicions? Was it one of the admins, or were there accusations from the community?
@mentalpain13
10 сағат бұрын
Should have just made a dis rap track in response instead of the investigation review 😅 Great vid, keep it up
@tonyalmeida7170
6 сағат бұрын
I also used this cheat during many games, Andrew makes basically the same illogical moves as me, moving the warrior straight to the nearest hut, cs or wonder, when you play without the civ replay cheat you notice the difference, after a time playing with this cheat it becomes very difficult to play without it, I also noticed that over time the game becomes boring.
@jacksonmirasty8575
4 сағат бұрын
They changed his mod tag to inquisitor for this.
@RedRiverCAE
9 сағат бұрын
It is so unfathomably cringe to edit screenshots in your ban appeal and subsequently proving youre guilty just by yourself. God this is awkward.
@jackhew93
Сағат бұрын
This investigation is impressive!
@Harrison_IRL
4 сағат бұрын
GET HIS ASS WOOF WOOF BARK BARK
@SkillZgetKillZ
6 сағат бұрын
4:00 absolute best Zhangye spawn 2024
@Kenion91
5 минут бұрын
The next move is for other pro players to start making those same unnatural, inefficient scouting moves and see if they get the same kind of rewards.
@dallashill23
3 сағат бұрын
Goodbye Andrew 👋 see you never again
@alonilin
Сағат бұрын
You also could use average number of turns, moves made to find huts, cs and wonders, which is hardeŕ to gather but i think it defenetly gonna show the number differences
@MrJuanRulez
10 сағат бұрын
wow, the end of an era...
@kb8619
10 сағат бұрын
that why its called era
@thecanmanification
3 сағат бұрын
12:15 it’s crazy to me how I (and probably most people who’ve played a decent amount of civ) instantly know that with the civ 6 movement rules this is the best move. Crossing a river and getting on top of a hill in one turn? And he didn’t do it? Lock him up
@kawaiinekochandesu5375
2 сағат бұрын
was kinda hoping you'd touch on his simming abilities too
@Freecell82
Сағат бұрын
God I love petty hobby drama. Low stakes stuff I can follow like a soap opera is entertaining like nothing else.
@therasco400
Сағат бұрын
When you optimize your game you play as a pattern. When that pattern differes from other high skill players by a significant margin its easy to see.
@CoolCong-nz4rt
9 сағат бұрын
Gotta be honest Ain't no way this guy didn't do this on purpose. Like, JESUS CHRIST! Streaming all the games and cheating during almost all of them? Taking a sus break when cheating didn't work? Fucking faking evidence against people who are dedicated enough to look at dozens of hours of gameplay? I'm actually kind of surprised it took him this long to get caught. I don't know what made him do this( some people have hard lives and any bit of recognition can be good for them.) but this just feels bad. Whilst also being hilarious.
@unknown23hornet22
7 сағат бұрын
You could absolutely create an algorithm to catch this.
@DuncanMcDowell
7 сағат бұрын
we do a little Manhattan geometry
@ZeRedSpy
4 сағат бұрын
As someone who found your channel recently - this is kinda funny. Andrew’s been the villain of the satirical videos for a while and it turns out he’s a proven cheat. It’s kinda sad. I think Andrew could have been a top 10 CPL player without cheating. I know folks are going to dog pile his actual skill for cheating - but as you pointed out the way he was keeping at the top of the leaderboard was by making the best possible moves. He just had an information advantage. And that’s still huge - but I don’t think that alone would get like the 120th best player in the world to hold rank 1 for a huge stretch of time. He had to skill to be one of the best and that wasn’t enough for him. I kinda hope he just did it for the money. Because if it’s an ego thing then the man needs therapy.
@athaya2992
3 сағат бұрын
thats so true. even if i had as much information as him, i wouldnt be able to be 1st rank for years 😭 that guy is talented, such a shame that he decided to cheat
@Hifuutorian
2 сағат бұрын
You see that a lot in speedrunners too; People who know what they're doing and would do well without the cheats, but do so to give themselves the advantage they can't overcome.
@deezboyeed6764
12 минут бұрын
People like that have never had a positive interaction in their life. So through cheating they deep down feel like they can control whats happening.
@soorian6493
8 сағат бұрын
Doctoring your own appeal photos is genuinely insane. Why even submit anything at that point?
@samadams2203
Сағат бұрын
Damn that is crazy. Congrats on catching this bozo!
@snowhawk04
9 сағат бұрын
Sounds like CPL should start collecting save files for their ranked games that are recorded. Randomly poll multiple participants to ensure no individual or group can game the system by submitting modified saves.
@tonyalmeida7170
5 сағат бұрын
who would pay for that??
@Gru39
10 сағат бұрын
You convinced me. That's a cheater
@seanloughney559
10 сағат бұрын
My jaw dropped when you said Andrew
@Pangepog
2 сағат бұрын
Herson is a living legend
@darmocat
8 сағат бұрын
14:25 I am not a competitive civ player, but I would have moved onto that hill as well. just because I am obsessed with plains hills city locations.
@PaulDk
7 сағат бұрын
which is most of the times the right play! with bbg, it's a totally different story though - flat tiles will always give yur city center 3 base food yields for example, plus the online speed punishes an extra turn of delay for the second city quite heavily
@darmocat
6 сағат бұрын
@@PaulDk That's good to know! thanks :)
@Hifuutorian
2 сағат бұрын
A player of his skill would have probably moved the scout there first just to be totally certain, plus what PaulDk said.
@ALittleMessi
56 минут бұрын
Karl Jobst would love this
@nilsp9426
9 сағат бұрын
Wow, he really dug himself in with the appeal. Providing nothing but vague statements would have probably served him better than that car crash of an argument.
@Cless84
3 сағат бұрын
weeks or months ago, I remembered (vaguely) coming across a video debunking your accusations that he only plays with low ranking players.
@Uranium_Diet
4 сағат бұрын
straight up hilarious, nobody is gonna stop you from reaching rank 1 now
@Churl-Jiwa
5 сағат бұрын
this video is sadly gonna be biggest thing to come out of civ 6 mp
@aidanfinucane3932
6 сағат бұрын
Incredible ending to the Andrew saga. What a sad person
@dallashill23
2 сағат бұрын
Wild! He’s 28% more efficient at finding goodie huts, yet his choice of scouting movements are suboptimal compared to other pro civ players (because he B-lines through rough terrains and squeezes through risky mountain passes). Absolutely damning evidence.
@RobRoseKnows
7 сағат бұрын
34:54 couldn’t you require all CPL games to save auto saves and use some sort of software to assess how optimal scouting is?
@TheNickVillarreal
10 сағат бұрын
Is it bad that I want to get CivReplay so I can look back at my solo games in the future? I mean, kudos for the dedicated investigation, and it's sad that somebody felt the need to gain an unfair advantage in his games instead of just learning the game. Good that he's no longer skewing the rankings, though
@mewr11
10 сағат бұрын
Not at all bad if you want to use CivReplay for non-cheating purposes. It's a valuable tool for reviewing your play.
@PaulDk
7 сағат бұрын
just for solo play, you dont need civ replay. there are native mods like map replay which dont require you to move save files etc
@binczuofficial9947
2 сағат бұрын
Cheaters in CPL after this video 📈📈📈📈📈📈📈📈📈
@SphealDude
10 сағат бұрын
So is Andrew the one who released a diss track on herson?
@EKEKEKEKEKEKEKEKEKEKEKEKEKEKEK
11 сағат бұрын
If only I could cheat my way to a girlfriend 😢
@Jajunk221
10 сағат бұрын
you can it's just expensive
@V4shStampede
Сағат бұрын
Actually that's where not cheating would be better 😉
@MAXXimizer
10 сағат бұрын
So does the CPL plan on doing full rank resets or adjustments to leaderboards, knowing how much damage Andrew has done to ranked play?
@jakajakos
Сағат бұрын
This video extensively showcased that Andrew is indeed a cheater without a shadow of a doubt
@OldDadGamer
10 сағат бұрын
I dont get why people bother to cheat, is a game get good or lose is not life or death.
@tonyalmeida7170
5 сағат бұрын
virtual proud
@attilaedem101
5 сағат бұрын
"Cheaters don't cheat to get a faster time, they cheat to get a time faster"... Andrew, like some others said, would been a top player (and maybe even the BEST) without cheating... but he wanted to be on top for less effort than it would take, which is why he cheated...If you think about it, its avery humane thing, everyone wants to achieve what they know was capable as fast as possible...
@imradma
Сағат бұрын
love it,joke of a player,hated every game i played with him
@GeeR-d3k
5 сағат бұрын
excellent work. now expose zuck's acct!
@beraor4296
11 сағат бұрын
I see you dont believe in AMMO...
@NG-gy6iv
6 сағат бұрын
The deity AI?
@larrybiglog
10 сағат бұрын
In the future calculate statistics for a mean cs/huts/natwonder using logs per say. If a player is very lucky (
@hitchikerspie
10 сағат бұрын
For the confidence interval on this to be high (>99.5%) you would need an extremely high sample of games, and the appeal could be "Maybe I'm just lucky, you need a larger N" Probabilities can be extremely counterintuitive so I don't think a pure statistics case would be the best one in this specific instance when it's more about optimising scouting movements.
@larrybiglog
10 сағат бұрын
@@hitchikerspie ok but it is very hard to individually track how “lucky” each player is and manually mod each game. Collecting the log of each game will give moderators a flag on who is cheating and who isn’t.
@hitchikerspie
10 сағат бұрын
@@larrybiglog I’m not in the civ admin team, and I’m sure they’ll make a decision they think is sensible for the community. I’ve also found their report doc and the evidence is far more than is presented in the Herson vid.
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