Would love to see 1 A2 vs 2 Redeemers in a fight with equal number of crew on both sides.
@BuzzCutPsycho
Жыл бұрын
I bet deemers would win via virtue of target focus.
@KarlBarbosa
4 ай бұрын
@@BuzzCutPsycho Yup. And it's a sound comparison since you can efficiently crew, and pay for, two Redeemers for the price and manpower of a single A2.
@realobamagaming
11 ай бұрын
my personal favorite is the redeemer, 100% meant to be a gunship with longer deployment potential, regarding the onboard beds and supplements like food and water included (which is almost exclusive to the redeemer aside from the corsair having a small flask with some water) and forgot to mention that the redeemer doesnt require much crew maintenance
@BuzzCutPsycho
11 ай бұрын
Good point. I did forget that. I do wish the crew quarters were above not below though.
@realobamagaming
11 ай бұрын
@@BuzzCutPsycho i think the manned turret wont bother anyone if there were beds, a small fridge and a small kitchenette instead of the remote turrets that couldve been moved below instead. very convenient for dropship uses as then you could exit the remote turrets and get out of the ship without the need of using ladders
@JohnDoe-wd8rs
11 ай бұрын
@@realobamagamingdoesn’t work as a drop ship because if you stand in the lower level during flight you glitch out of the ship
@seane6616
10 ай бұрын
@@BuzzCutPsychoMe too, I wish that so badly, would love for some cargo and a bike spot
@Hylanvahr
Жыл бұрын
After playing around with the Master Mode swarm in the PTU, I think it's safe to say that both of these ships will decimate light fighters on top of everything else they're already good at shooting. These ships will be even more menacing when the armor system is in place. I wonder if the popularity of these ships will persist after the Polaris and Perseus are released. Maybe the A2 for the bombs will keep her going, but the Deemer I think will fall out of favor.
@BuzzCutPsycho
Жыл бұрын
Death to light fighters!
@JohnDoe-wd8rs
11 ай бұрын
2-3 redeemers will most likely decimate either, it’s what they are designed for bud.
@gyratingwolpertiger6851
11 ай бұрын
Deemers will have their place as a smaller gunship
@asiftalpur3758
Жыл бұрын
I only recently found out how absolute godlike the A2 is crewed with a decent pilot. Its pretty cracked.
@BuzzCutPsycho
Жыл бұрын
I love it. Pure dominance.
@JohnDoe-wd8rs
11 ай бұрын
Yup, I own a redeemer but I always buy an A2 for when sessions get stacked, I pilot and we have a guy from Kuwait that pilots. With him piloting we killed 15 ships one after the other, including 2 redeemers, 4 infernos and even a scorpious. Some we’re fighting one another but they soon all started attacking us.
@invincibearofficial
Жыл бұрын
I daily an A2, did an org v org where my A2 was our capital ship and theirs was a hammerhead. Our size 5 canons had double their size 4 repeaters' range, so we took down their shields before they could even hit us with a shot. That battle turned into us chasing the hammerhead around a few times until we could finalize the kill, without us sustaining any damage.
@ThirsttyRecon
Жыл бұрын
Well a Hammerhead is an anti-fighter not a an anti-large. If a fighter wing attacks an A2 its not going to handle them as well as a Hammerhead. Against torpedoes as well when Counter measures stop being so OP, Hammerhead has more saturation to deal with torps than an A2.
@invincibearofficial
Жыл бұрын
@@ThirsttyRecon fair points!
@BuzzCutPsycho
Жыл бұрын
That's amazing
@ShaighJosephson
7 ай бұрын
As a solo player, I use the Redeemer as my dailey driver mainly for the protection it offers and better solo DPS with fixed S5's...
@BuzzCutPsycho
7 ай бұрын
It is a beast and way better solo
@Zork0815
5 ай бұрын
The A2 is an air to ground gunship while the redeemer is an air to air gunship. We use both ships and the redeemer is our way to go. The problem with the A2 is that massive blind spot on the whole upper half of the ship. Only the small rear remote turret on the back is able to cover a few degrees. Also, the A2 gunners tend to be useless on a target that is under fire by the pilot guns. We use the A2 for GH or JT because of the bombs and the cargo but never without an additional fighter. If you wanna take some cargo from other ships, the A2 is the better choice, but if able, just take the redeemer and an additional C2. For all other uses, mainly combat focused operations, the redeemer is the way to go. So, in a fight between a Redeemer and the A2, the redeemer won't stand a chance because of the bad firing arcs and the massive blind spots.
@BuzzCutPsycho
5 ай бұрын
You will be happy to know in Master Modes the A2 has been pooped on and is much more sluggish. IN many ways.
@raidellcorps
Жыл бұрын
7:40 thank for including ship use philosophy. Ship design and performance obeys the intended function. ... which sadly is always at the risk of being changed :C
@BuzzCutPsycho
Жыл бұрын
No worries. I always try to consider the role and purpose in the review.
@user-iz8mj3jt2n
Жыл бұрын
I don’t agree with the statement that the pilot guns are crap on the A2. The 2 S5’s have double the engagement range and deal devastating dps. The capacitors on the A2 also allow you to run high charge counts for laser weaponry…even if you gimbal down and run 2 S4 weapons, that’s still very efficient. I think another thing always overlooked are the redundant components the A2 has, along with its countermeasures. Those alone help justify this ships price if they don’t nerf it. My pledge is a Redeemer at the moment but waiting to upgrade to an A2, which I have been daily driving for the last year. I didn’t even buy it for the bombs, but for everything just mentioned. Great video bud, keep up the good work.
@BuzzCutPsycho
11 ай бұрын
Thanks man. In 3.20 I will try the big guns over the gimbals.
@Ono_on0
Жыл бұрын
your video brings some neglicted knowledge to the players everytime, love it.
@BuzzCutPsycho
Жыл бұрын
Glad you like them! That is what I'm always trying to do here. Esoteric knowledge is too common in SC.
@planah6198
5 ай бұрын
A2 should have the option to replace the bomb racks with torpedo racks
@BuzzCutPsycho
5 ай бұрын
Lol that would be crazy. It is supposed to be able to use smaller bombs tho
@capz3217
8 ай бұрын
So, the A2 is on sale, and I've got a Merchantment-Upgrade for my Redeemer back from the time when it was 0 $. I guess I can shell out the 27 $ for the Warbond-Version. You know, just in case.
@BuzzCutPsycho
8 ай бұрын
That way you can drop a nuke from orbit. Just to be sure.
@capz3217
8 ай бұрын
@@BuzzCutPsycho That's a pretty Alien concept to me. But I'll give it a try.
@KittyCommanderr
Жыл бұрын
Love my Deemer that said I also almost bought an A2 last IAE. I would agree the A2 is a better gunship and combined drop ship. The Deemer fits a more niche role in the PvP setting. I can't wait for A2 drops please CIG give us a reason to be a well organized group.
@BuzzCutPsycho
Жыл бұрын
Fat
@KittyCommanderr
Жыл бұрын
@BuzzCutPsycho lol I'm guessing you meant "facts" but I never do know with you Buzz.
@haiuuu7
Жыл бұрын
A2 is godlike right now, but when they cut on tricord and if master modes land, it will be a heavy nerf, because the main thing going for the A2 is the crazy maneuverability.
@Hylanvahr
Жыл бұрын
Yep, MM is going to change the whole game. Some will like it (like me being a daily big ship pilot), but I think it will be a deal-breaker for others.
@BuzzCutPsycho
Жыл бұрын
Manuevers and guns
@spacenord8618
11 ай бұрын
I have a redeemer and think it needs more thrust speed like when it first came out and then they slowed it down So I’m hoping it gets a speed boost
@BuzzCutPsycho
11 ай бұрын
Very possible especially with master modes.
@bobstark4201
11 ай бұрын
Just an FYI, the A2 by default comes with two gimbaled size 4 cannons for the pilot. You have to upgrade to non-gimbaled size 5's if you want that.
@BuzzCutPsycho
11 ай бұрын
Based. Ty.
@bobstark4201
11 ай бұрын
As of right now, I use the A2. I melted my redeemer. On paper, the Redeemer is awesome. It's a beautiful ship and they did an amazing job building it's look, inside and out. However, my crew and I either die or get death spins every time we use the Redeemer to do service beacons or bounties. The NPC pilots purposefully run into you. The A2 however, even though the stats are so similar, takes a lickin' and keeps on tickin'. It just has much more survivability in my experience. Plus it carries cargo and ground vehicles. It also turns better than the Corsair (at least it feels that way). It doesn't seem to turn much worse than the Redeemer either.
@BuzzCutPsycho
11 ай бұрын
It also wins those ramming matches!
@bobstark4201
11 ай бұрын
@@BuzzCutPsycho Haha, I’ll have to try that. The HH is supposed to be able to ram into other ships, can’t wait for that to be functional. Cool to see the shock absorbers inside the ship tho.
@ianroy2615
Жыл бұрын
Loved the video, just very curious about the website tools you used to detail the ship specs and radargraph?
@BuzzCutPsycho
Жыл бұрын
Spviewer.
@gaivy9159
4 ай бұрын
How do you slave the remote turret to be able to use it in the pilots seat?
@BuzzCutPsycho
4 ай бұрын
You just hot to use it and make sure nobody is in that remote seat. But it is not the big turretso nly the tiny nose one
@gaivy9159
4 ай бұрын
Yeah I am just confused on how you use the Remote Turret without exiting the pilot seat and then entering the remote turret seat. If you can use the remote turret gun without leaving the pilots seat, that's what I need to know how to do.
@Ryan-ro9qv
Жыл бұрын
A connie andro fully crewed, (copilot, snub pilot, both gunner) has got to be one of my favorite gunships.
@ozramblue117
Жыл бұрын
Same and far more balanced than the op deemed or A2 which is also a bomber and a hauler and outmaneuvers anything close to its size.
@BuzzCutPsycho
Жыл бұрын
It sure is cool no doubt. Great entry level crew ship.
@uss_04
9 ай бұрын
Was hoping you had an erkul link in the description when I found your video. Otherwise nice comparison. Looking for a fun ship when I got me and 2 guys who just want to gun at ERTs in PvE and chose that. A2 is great but it’s too much ship when someone else is running the C2
@BuzzCutPsycho
9 ай бұрын
I'll do that from now on. But it is always grade a military and laser cannons where repeaters aren't possible
@gyratingwolpertiger6851
11 ай бұрын
Took a fully crewed A2 out to a JT sometime in 3.17. 21 kills before we left for repairs.
@BuzzCutPsycho
11 ай бұрын
Now that's awesome.
@gyratingwolpertiger6851
11 ай бұрын
@@BuzzCutPsycho Multi crew can be a absolute force multiplyer when done properly.
@Gazbeard
3 ай бұрын
A "full crew" is the elephant in the room. There are far more solo players in SC than there are multicrew and org players. This will only get more pronounced once the singleplayer Sqn 42 releases and people cross to the MMO Star Citizen. From that perspective, the Redeemer is a better buy as it's more powerful in the hands of a solo player than the A2 ... and less vulnerable despite the manouevrability disparity.
@BuzzCutPsycho
3 ай бұрын
All changed now this is old and pre MM. Right now they both suck LOL
@PantherKen
Жыл бұрын
You, Sir, are another resounding endorsement that for my upcoming CCU chains I will be adding the Redeemer to the list of what I'll be working on during IAE. Always grateful for your insights and perspectives. The snacks and drinks included on the Redeemer definitely tip the balance for current and future utility! * gives a sharp salute * 🫡
@BuzzCutPsycho
Жыл бұрын
You're welcome! I try to be as informative as possible and unbiased. Some ships have a purpose and others don't. These two are a solid choice between one another.
@DakkaDakka12
10 ай бұрын
But how good is the A2 with 3 crew? you need to judge ships equally so if you have 6 ppl in the A2 you need a 2nd Redeemer or if you have 3 in the Redeemer then you should only have 3 in the A2. I personally see these ships as being in different roles because of the turret placement. A2 has all turrets on the bottom of the ship with good visibility on targets below the ship even after you pass the target. Redeemer cannot bring one of its big turrets to bear on ground targets (top turret) and it's bottom turret can only target enemy ground units that are in front of the redeemer, the ship's belly blocks the turret from shooting ground targets behind the Redeemer unlike the A2. Redeemer to me is designed to control a area against primarily other aircraft, it is a mini hammerhead.
@BuzzCutPsycho
10 ай бұрын
I would say the A2 is still good. You can run two gunners and a pilot and still access two twin linked size 5 cannons. Both with excellent fields of fire. Even though they're on the bottom they can aim forward and due to the nature of space combat and the A2s maneuverability it can easily keep gunner on target. That and the insane amount of flares still makes it worth it. Redeemer needs some love imo.
@kalikiller1771
10 ай бұрын
A couple patches ago i went up against a fully crewed ballistic (ad5b) a2 with my partially crewed Hammerhead full ad4b loadout. It was fucking awesome but we ended up colliding they survived I didn't. Said his repair bill was over half a mil. I always rock S5 (scimitar v) torps on the HH and softened it up with those.
@BuzzCutPsycho
10 ай бұрын
Scimitar 5s are insane power. Very low arm range too. You're smart.
@kalikiller1771
10 ай бұрын
@@BuzzCutPsycho thank you. I wish those encounters were more common but it's hard getting several turret gunners and even harder to find another big multicrew to duke it out with. Not sure ad4bs were a good loadout overall but they helped with this specific scenario. Cost 1mil all around for the HH to be outfitted with them
@cvsmith122
Жыл бұрын
The redeemer has way better arcs compared to the A2, and not having some one in the rear turret opens a big hole for the redeemer. The A2 has massive arc issues, also you have to remember that the countermeasures and maneuverability of the A2 has not been balanced.
@BuzzCutPsycho
Жыл бұрын
I've never seen or heard anything about them intending to balance or change the A2. But it needs it.
@cvsmith122
Жыл бұрын
@@BuzzCutPsycho Yeah it has been mentioned a while back, a C2 can out turn some light fighters. So all the Hurcs will be getting a rework eventually.
@coreysmith1682
11 ай бұрын
@@iknowu246 The A2 does not need a med bay, to put it in perspective the Perseus does not have a med bay either. the A2 is designed as a bomber ship bomb the target deliver some tanks and then get back out. It is designed to be with a fleet other other ships. That fleet would have medical ships with it.
@marcassin1034
Жыл бұрын
Theses are 2 different kind of ship, not exaclty the same rôle but they are two beast, it seems that "everyone" speak about the A2 bombs and not so much about his fire power who's fucking insane, his manoeuvrability is also very good for a ship of this size. I love the A2, the only problem is that actually the game is not developed to do war pvp and don't give so much interest to play it at all X) So we must wait...
@BuzzCutPsycho
Жыл бұрын
But when we get that war it will shine brighter.
@amd1031
Жыл бұрын
I am a crusader fanboy lol thank you for this informative video. ❤
@BuzzCutPsycho
Жыл бұрын
You are so welcome! I'll be finishing my Crusader LTI collection this IAE.
@amd1031
Жыл бұрын
@@BuzzCutPsycho I have the complete crusader pack with LTI
@12floit33
Жыл бұрын
Once upon a time me and a random dude stuffed a nova tank in a hercules turning it into a monster. Took down an idris with it.
@BuzzCutPsycho
Жыл бұрын
Now that's impressive.
@12floit33
11 ай бұрын
Shield dont really block the rounds of a nova tank so it's easy pickings
@MrKennykyle1
10 ай бұрын
if big ships supposed to have so much CM, than what good are torpedo ships for? You just have a few missile boats to spam and then finish with torp? Something i don't understand
@BuzzCutPsycho
10 ай бұрын
It is far from balanced. Ions on the other hand are good against the Hercules series. And to be honest it is the only ship with that many flares.
@MrKennykyle1
10 ай бұрын
@@BuzzCutPsycho Ares can't really get close to the Hercules without getting shredded by turrets. I guess it will be better to distance.
@theworkshopwhisperer.5902
Жыл бұрын
You make a good argument but you have overlooked something. The Redeemer has a mini fridge!! Comes complete with snacks every time you respawn the vehicle. I would also say the Redeemer only requires two people to make the most of it. The top or bottom turrets are so good with heavy laser cannons. The DPS alone is enough to start hunting hammerheads.
@BuzzCutPsycho
Жыл бұрын
Hey those snacks used to explode the ship !!
@theworkshopwhisperer.5902
Жыл бұрын
@@BuzzCutPsycho sounds about right knowing this game.
@draconusspiritus1037
11 ай бұрын
Is it just me being childish? You popped off the flares in the Redeemer and the first thing to go through my mind was SPARKLE FARTS!!!.
@BuzzCutPsycho
11 ай бұрын
You're good.
@draconusspiritus1037
11 ай бұрын
I use an M2 for salvage claims. Spend 50K for a salvage claim, I prefer a claim on a C2 or M2. If it's a C2 I can usually expect anywhere from 500K to 1M worth of cargo in it. Bexalite, Gold, Taranite, maybe some Quant. Personal best haul so far being 150 SCU of Quant from a c2 claim. If it's an M2, it's almost always contraband like Maze or Neon. A bit more hassle finding a place to sell it but a much bigger payoff.
@GentlemanBroncos
Жыл бұрын
the deemers cool point really tip the scales, who cares if its not as good its badass lolz
@BuzzCutPsycho
Жыл бұрын
Haha solid point
@Wh1terider
Жыл бұрын
Agreed with the A2. It's lacking medical, unless you cram a C8R in.
@BuzzCutPsycho
Жыл бұрын
You could fit one in.
@BuzzCutPsycho
11 күн бұрын
Now we have Ursa medical
@Wh1terider
11 күн бұрын
@@BuzzCutPsycho That's what I've been waiting for. The crazy workarounds were too janky for me.
@ozramblue117
Жыл бұрын
I don’t like how effective the whole Hercules series is. They do everything too well compared to other ships, making taking other choices a self handicap. As for redeemer I think they’ve gone about it all wrong. It should be tanks af through hull and armor akin to terrapin or retaliator. Instead of that second shield which makes no sense it needs more hull and also better maneuverability through use of a more effective boost system which would take ages to run out but recharge very slowly. It should be a rough beast that can eventually tire out and come home bruised af from its outings. That’s my opinion and why I avoid both ships… however your advice and observations are sound.
@BuzzCutPsycho
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the comment. I agree 100% about the Hercules line being too powerful but at the same time I'm selfish and enjoy it as it is. :) maybe bring the others up a bit? At least in terms of counter measures.
@pws_comanche
Жыл бұрын
The A2 is fun, but the same amount of people can crew 2 Redeemers and a Cutty Blue.
@BuzzCutPsycho
Жыл бұрын
Sure. But you can get the same two twink link S5 cannons on an A2 by running a crew of 3. Same as the deemer.
@pws_comanche
Жыл бұрын
@@BuzzCutPsycho I'll take a 3 man deemer over a 3 man a2. Not over a full crew a2 tho
@ThirsttyRecon
Жыл бұрын
I think one think people always conveniently ignore in comparisons is the per crew efficiency in running multiple vs single craft. If I have 3 people, how much damage can I output or how efficient am I going to be in the task in a Redeemer vs an A2? If i have 6 people, would I be better off with a Hammerhead than an A2? Or is a Redeemer with 3 crew + 3 escort vanguards going to outperform a single A2 with 6 crew? CIG needs to make having crew on multicrew large ships worth it more than having them fly their own craft.
@BuzzCutPsycho
Жыл бұрын
The issue is you're even better with an A2 only using the double S5s like a redeemer. Full crew is fun but mostly larp now sadly.
@supraeric
Жыл бұрын
lets go
@BuzzCutPsycho
Жыл бұрын
Based
@LOoNyTOoN1336
Жыл бұрын
o7
@0BLACKESTFUN0
11 ай бұрын
mercury star runner for me better than the redeemer , alone for piracy and versatility of having the option to have either a fury in the back for additional man power or cargo. it has speed and no hardpoints wich can break so its a flying rock
@BuzzCutPsycho
11 ай бұрын
Based choice
@katsucurry4175
9 ай бұрын
you mentioned capital class decoys, are there different sizes of decoys? is it more effective the larger the decoy is?
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