Can you talk about transport submarines like what they did and who made them ect. Any era really
@masterskrain2630
Жыл бұрын
The Machine gun at 8:40 is actually a Quint mount, with 5 barrels...
@Niels_Larsen
Жыл бұрын
Speaking of naval museums, you have visited naval museums in the UK, US and Sweden, but have you visited the naval museums in Denmark, and if not do you think you will visit?
@almusquotch9872
Жыл бұрын
Is it true medieval/early modern Chinese ships were more advanced than contemporary Europeans ones? Columbus' ship vs Zheng He's for example. Are they actually more technologically complex or just larger?
@Moredread25
Жыл бұрын
Has anybody besides Hannibal attack opponent's ships with snakes?
@deadline8416
Жыл бұрын
They did that to our local museum. When I last went I expected all the great dioramas that I knew as a kid, but they'd turned the whole place into something like a playground. Gone were the dinosaur skeletons, replaced by a sand pit full of plastic bones for the kids to play in, and a bunch of blinking electronic crap with multimedia that I could have gotten at home on my web browser. Whoever came up with that wonderful idea should be keelhauled.
@dersaegefisch
Жыл бұрын
Wait, someone actually thought getting rid of the dinosaur skeletons would make kids enjoy the museum more? Well someone clearly never was a child, has some or had anything to do with children at all.
@johnjephcote7636
Жыл бұрын
My father took me around traditional musems in the 1950s and I loved just looking into glass cases. Where anyone found the idea that these should become playthings, I have no isea. Who did they ask?
@robertslugg8361
Жыл бұрын
"What happened with Legos? They used to be simple." Dr. Marshall Kane (RIP) "Community"
@ZGryphon
Жыл бұрын
Similar things are happening to libraries in the US, when they aren't just being closed outright. My local library was a dull little brick building from the 1950s, full of books. A few years ago the town government washed their hands of it and turned it over to a "friends of the library" society, who seem to have decided that the problem wasn't the town being too cheap to run a library, it was that the library wasn't interesting enough. They had a huge fundraising campaign and completely remodeled the place into some sort of Media-Driven Community Center. Conspicuously missing from the radical new floorplan: the stacks. You know. The part where the books go. These are apparently the kinds of things that happen when people stop regarding educational resources as educational resources--that is, public services requiring support--and regard them instead as insufficiently productive profit centers.
@shoominati23
Жыл бұрын
If you got sentenced to be keelhauled, you'd be best off not taking a breath before you went under, lest you were torn to shreds by Shells and Barnacles by the time you made it to the other side..
@jessemijnders
Жыл бұрын
I remember our teachers back in school always loving those 'modern' interactive museums, but I always hated them and loved going to the old fashioned museums with lots of models, paintings and historical artifacts.
@SP-sy5nq
Жыл бұрын
Of course, I'm fine looking through ancient pottery if I can just take it in as is
@Frank-bc8gg
Жыл бұрын
they probably loved it because they could release the class to destroy, I mean interact with, the exhibits so they can sit back and nurse their hangovers.
@CitiesTurnedToDust
Жыл бұрын
"Museums for Dummies, by Dummies". I got news for those Dummies...Dummies don't go to museums anyway, so what the hell is the point of catering to them instead of the people who actually want to see museums?
@808bigisland
Жыл бұрын
Interactive shows suck. Models rule. The tech museum next to V&A is great. Munich and the Verkehrhaus Lucerne have tons of models and fullsize ship diesels and turbines. Amsterdam is even better.
@mancubwwa
Жыл бұрын
Sticking one or two of these interactive displays on top of the traditional collection is not bad, especially if they are done right. But redoing a whole museum this way is just plain awful.
@MsZeeZed
Жыл бұрын
Children who turn into adults who go to museums regularly are the kind of children who are fascinated by complex models. There needs to be room for different learning styles within museums.
@Ensign_Cthulhu
Жыл бұрын
13:10 - this reminds me of what Andrew Gordon said of Jacky Fisher. To paraphrase: "He was recommended for the Service by the last of Nelson's captains still on active duty, and the last of the great ships he built was still in service in the year of the Atomic Bomb."
@chriscraven9572
Жыл бұрын
60 odd years ago, when I was about 9, I started my love affair with museums by travelling in to London by tube to visit them. My favourite was the science museum. Over the years I've seen them change their displays from items with pretty full information attached, to animated displays, flashing lights, 'games', and 'dumbed down' exhibit. When I last visited, just before COVID, there were hordes of kids just running round from exhibit to exhibit not reading or even seemingly learning anything. Such a pity.
@cheesedoff-with4410
Жыл бұрын
They've actually replaced some of the older captions describing the exhibit with far briefer speed readable ones. Case in point, the engines where one first enters the museum.
@kanrakucheese
Жыл бұрын
Meanwhile, Royal Armouries upgraded a scale model display that was meant to be temporary to full time because it proved so popular and helpful for the most laymen of visitors to understanding the scale of the event. Really, I think the models at the NMM need a few humans (even off the ship) to illustrate the scale of the ship. Those more experienced can infer scale from things like doors, but it would help for the average viewer.
@tomburton8239
Жыл бұрын
I don’t remember much about my life as an infant, 60+ years ago. But I absolutely remember visiting the National Maritime Museum at Greenwich. - because of the fantastic models! They completely captured my imagination, and I went on to become an engineer. What a formative few hours….
@jamesmaclennan4525
Жыл бұрын
I can recall going as a 7 year old and being not keen to go until I saw the Models. I think my interest in Naval matters started from that Day
@RexStewartoriginals
7 ай бұрын
Thank you for that 'perfect' comment! I've been stating this for years on various forums about models being the pilot to the imaginative mind. Coming across yours (and others on various networks) validate a truth that can't be concealed.
@kilianortmann9979
Жыл бұрын
Rejoice, all hail the angry Russian river pancake!
@ulrichkalber9039
Жыл бұрын
Half potempkin river pancake.
@chrisbruce5711
Жыл бұрын
LOL
@hiruharii
Жыл бұрын
or rather, half of it, it seems
@gordm3527
Жыл бұрын
Glad you got to see the incredible Maritime Museum in Halifax when you visited Canada! And many naval bases actually have their own small personal museums. Cheers!
@nl-oc9ew
Жыл бұрын
Nelson's influence reaches the atomic age. Wow.
@br-v388
Жыл бұрын
There is a very nice little naval museum in Winnipeg of all places, with probably the most complete 4in double mount anywhere in the world.
@TacgnolSimulacrum
Жыл бұрын
I'll throw something in here, having worked at a few museums: 100% leave feedback with the staff as you leave. Alot of times the kiddification of museums is done in a vacuum of visitor feedback by people who have gone to school for museum studies or the like and have very little actual real world experience, and likely didn't go to museums much/at all as a kid.
@br-v388
Жыл бұрын
BINGO. Museums don't hire people with subject experience, but with museum-operation degrees, all of whom are more interested in 'forming the correct thoughts in people's minds' and less with passing on information through the ages.
@michaelimbesi2314
Жыл бұрын
Drach, the reason that they only used half a model is because in those days, the model was actually used to indicate how the ship should be built. By only using a half-model, the builders could make sure that errors wouldn’t be introduced to the ship by having slight differences in the size or position of things on the model. It does also save time and money, since you only need to build half a model.
@redhidinghood
Жыл бұрын
I remember seeing one model (smaller ship, but no idea what/when/where- over 30 yrs ago) that hinged away from the mirror so you could see the internal layout. Basically, a cutaway model converted into a virtual whole model via a mirror.
@Dogbertious
Жыл бұрын
I recently visited the museum myself, and boy howdy that KGV model was an awesome sight to see. I also appreciated the East India Company & Polynesian galleries too.
@hipcat13
Жыл бұрын
So glad they brought the models back. They were one of my most cherished childhood memories.
@seafodder6129
Жыл бұрын
Those builder's models are simply beautiful. And that KGV takes it to a whole 'nother level.
@franksmedley7372
Жыл бұрын
Hello Drach. What a nice video. I liked all the models on display. The artifacts help give more context to things, as you said. I tend to agree that paintings, actual artifacts, and scale models of things, do tend to give one a better mental 'grasp' upon whatever subject you're interested in. As a kid of 15, I remember being in History class when the sinking of the Edmund Fitzgerald happened. Only a few days later, it seemed, the Song about the sinking was on the air near constantly. And I remember after returning to my home State of Michigan, taking the time to go to the Great Lakes Shipwreck Museum to see the recovered ship's bell. Which is taken out of its case once a year and rung once for each missing crewman, or it was... I am no longer sure if they still do that. History is a funny thing... sometimes, it can be as personal as remembering where you were when an event happened. Sort of like myself at various periods of time... like being 3 or 4 years old and trying to make the adults laugh, because they were crying (I later learned that nice man on TV had been shot... J. F. K.). Or being 9 years old, with a complete model of the Saturn V rocket, made with two stands, and a bent rod with string to show the rocket in flight. Each part of the model would detach, so you could remove each piece to replace it upon the Launch stand as they were ejected. Finally, you could hang the combined Service, and Landing modules over the Lunar stand, and later move the Landing module onto it, until the upper part lifted off the moon, to reattach to the Service module, the lower part left on the lunar stand, the upper part ejected, and then finally the Service module was ejected to allow the Command module to land in the ocean (I actually had a Carrier model I put in a corner of the room near my Apollo Mission model, where I set up the Carrier to receive the Command module). Sorry for the long-winded reply. But I felt that at least one of your viewers should point out that History is not just something cut and dried. Something boring, and having no personal impact. History can, and often is, ongoing, and we only realize it is History later in life. And yes, sometimes I even envy my deceased Great Grandmother for having both lived at the time, and actually seen one of the later Wright Brother's Flights.
@paulgammidge-jefferson9536
Жыл бұрын
Thank you. I agree with you about the treatment of museums. I was so disappointed with The Think Tank in Birmingham. Not a patch on the old Birmingham Science Museum. I set aside a whole day to spend there but after less than an hour I left. I am all for getting children involved in history but this was like being in a play area. Unlike the excellent Barrow-in-Furness Dockland Museum. A much smaller museum but I spent an enthralled five and a half hours in there. I will take up your recommendation and give the National Maritime Museum a visit. Love the channel.
@richmcgee434
Жыл бұрын
With very few exceptions children don't go to museums by themselves, and if they do they're rarely welcomed with anything but suspicion. Most attend only on school trips, but if directors expect parents to make family trips as well then they'd better not dumb the exhibits down to the point where adults don't enjoy them as well. You can appeal to a wide spread of age groups if you're smart about it. There's a big audio-visual Sesame Street display in one of our local museums that obviously draws kids, but it's also a nostalgic draw for loads of Gen X parents and even grandparents who grew up with it, and it's loaded with clips and artifacts of older episodes that haven't aired in decades and facts about the origins and production of the show. It's a babysitter display, but you can learn from it if you pay attention.
@ZGryphon
Жыл бұрын
Today I learned that there is such a thing as the Barrow-in-Furness Dockland Museum, which I now feel a strange desire to see immediately.
@SamCogley
Жыл бұрын
@@richmcgee434 I would agree - there is definitely room for museums to include interactive elements that would appeal to both younger and older audiences, while still displaying artifacts, artwork, specimens, or whatever it is that they are dedicated to. I've encountered a few art museums that have worked up excellent tablet or phone-based displays with headphone audio components that go a lot more in-depth about the artist, who they were, how they worked, the time period in which they were working, the subject matter of the painting, sculpture, etc. than any placard next to the artwork could possibly do. They're also a great place to include workshop areas where both kids and adults can take art classes - nothing like having some inspiration if you're going to try your hand at creating your own art. Science museums are definitely another area where hands-on types of exhibits can be both really informative and entertaining if done right - physics particularly lends itself well to interactive displays. Some museums in the past have been done up in a manner that is just...stultifying, and there is no need for it.
@richmcgee434
Жыл бұрын
@@SamCogley 100% agreed. There's nothing wrong with using technological advances to make a better experience, but there's also no excuse not to use those advances to offer a deeper degree of learning for those who want it. Make your exhibits accessible and enjoyable for every age group - but maybe remember that at the end of the day, the adults are the ones bringing the kids and making the donations, whether they're teachers or parents. Have to give them something too.
@SamCogley
Жыл бұрын
@@richmcgee434 If you have a museum dealing in some sort of subject matter that might appeal to younger audiences, and the displays don't engage them, the parents aren't going to bring their kids back. There's definitely a balance to be had.
@JoshuaC923
Жыл бұрын
One can look at pictures and blueprints all day but models let you visualize something you can't get from prints, awesome
@mbryson2899
Жыл бұрын
As a kid in the mid-70s I enjoyed the models and the preserved exhibits the most. The Museum of Science and Industry was amazing. A real U-boat, a large model of the U.S.S. Chicago, the Spitfire and Stuka, et al...seeing them in 3D really captured my imagination. Thanks for the tour, Drach, you've shown me so many things I otherwise never would have seen.
@SteamCrane
Жыл бұрын
The U-Boat gives a new dimension to Das Boot.
@AWPtical800
Жыл бұрын
8:33 that's got five barrels, Drach. Unless you're Picard arguing with a Cardassian while under interrogation.
@paulkirkland3263
Жыл бұрын
I agree with you 100% about the NMM - it used to be a serious maritime museum back in the 1980s. I hope the trustees are coming to their senses. For example, they can ditch the AK-47 as used by pirates off the Somalian coast, hence a "maritime" connection - absolutely laughable.
@davidkillin8466
Жыл бұрын
Really nice refurbishment/upgrade of the museum. I agree with Drach that ship models really steal the show, especially if so detailed and lovingly crafted. The artefacts along side, with such impeccable lighting, also adds well to the design
@gordonfrickers5592
Жыл бұрын
Thank you Drachs, this is very encouraging. It's seriously good news to learn the museum has moved beyond kiddification. I was probably 7 or 8 years old when I first visited, it wasn't kiddified then and my parents were my guides. I have returned many times since, most recently to see the well presented exhibition of paintings 'Turner and the Sea'. Kiddification, well said, a very famous sailor I know well, who is among other things a Master Mariner (ship captain and RNR) told me he resigned from his directorship because of the direction the museum took. I dare not here quote his heartfelt comment which was in today's terms is neither politically correct or wok ... For many years the National Maritime Museum was my favourite museum. In my early days as a budding marine artist access to resources was free, guided by very helpful staff. I researched quite a few ships and seamen there and was given guided access to the huge warehouses full of material rarely displayed. today part of the purpose of my large websites is to share that knowledge via the 'further reading' pages. At the NMM I most notably researched the voyage of George Anson (1740 to 44) and Anson's 64 gun Centurion of circumnavigation fame. Several spectacular paintings resulted however there was an element of quid pro quo. While examining the superb model of Centurion I suggested the staff try an endoscope inside her. What was discovered as a result of my observations was astounding. When fees for researchers were introduced the cost for me (with travel and accommodation needed) soon became prohibitive so that was the end of that except for a few years while I was Official Artist to HMS Victory during the run up to Trafalgar 200. On the off chance any museum staff read this the 'Centurion incident' is not the only time my being given access has proved valuable for a museum. Although it's a bit late for me, I recommend museums review their policy to 'serious' researchers and keep in mind, some of us specialist can being information that will surprise their already knowledgeable staff. By the way, the Musée national de la Marine in Paris is currently closed while undergoing a major upgrade, who'd like to see the results?
@BrbWifeYelling
Жыл бұрын
Re Musee de la Marine I know I certainly would. That model of L’Ocean is simply breathtaking!
@anthonyjackson280
Жыл бұрын
Interesting point about degrees of separation. I am 63, my grandfather was at Dogger Bank, Jutland and was recalled for Dunkirk. Also the mirrored model is an ingenious way to save footprint space - although on the real ships did the screws counter-rotate?
@alanhughes6753
Жыл бұрын
8:25 Sorry Drach, the machine gun is a quin-barrelled mount, not a quad (no can easily see 5 barrels there). However the National Maritime Museum is now high on my list of places to visit when I have the time.
@JrgPt96
Жыл бұрын
Also in the COVID period, the builders' model of the Konigin-Regentes class protected cruiser de Ruyter (1902) was placed in one of the hallways of the college I attend. It's a massive piece and close to 1/48 scale I imagine. Also has a lovely original wooden and glass case built around it. I do really like the models the yards make at the same time as they build the ship itself. But they have a weird tendency to end up at the weirdest place. Considering the national navy museum is in den Helder, and that there's a maritime museum in the city as well known for its ship models (in Rotterdam) it feels odd that the model got gifted to the school instead. At least it ended up on display again.
@viandengalacticspaceyards5135
Жыл бұрын
Disclaimer: As a modelmaker, I'm massively biased. Did some work for museums, and when they now say "interactive", they mean "computer screen". The pox on them! We have all the screens we want (and don't) everywhere (like right now...) Some of the best real interactive displays I've seen were at the" Deutsches Museum" in Munich. One example among many was a real periscope,that you could use... to see what's happening on the floor above. I remember that one 40years later.
@SimonJM
Жыл бұрын
A fascinating mini-tour, thank you! There are times when my brain has to do a reset and the simple fact of the usefulness of uniform pulley blocks was one of them. Bloody obvious when you think about it, but not something about which I really did need to think. I hope the people who came up with the jig got, at least, a few beers! At around 8:25 do you mention a quad barrel machine gun? I may have mis-heard and it may have been a type name, but it looks to have 5 barrels, not 4.
@MARGATEorcMAULER
Жыл бұрын
Drach,that was awesome, the joy in voice was palpable. The photos showing how detailed the models were stirred memories of long forgotten passions,you've brought me to tears man.Thank you
@billsugden3734
Жыл бұрын
Glad to see that Greenwich has got some of its mojo back. My only gripe now, as an ex merchant navigator, is that the navigation instruments that fascinated me are now up that damn great hill at the observatory in a much reduced exhibit.
@MissJediMouse
Жыл бұрын
Hi Drach, thanks for the call back to the question on the shells
@gregorywright4918
Жыл бұрын
Two that you visited recently had nice model ship exhibits as a side show: - The USS Salem has a nice collection of different-sized models, plus some dioramas like the Fore River Shipyard in the 1940s. - The Independence Seaport Museum dockside building (next to USS Olympia) has a nice collection of ship models, dioramas and artifacts about shipbuilding from the 1700s to the 1900s, plus the Ship Model Shack of the Philadelphia Ship Model Society, and the Seaport Boat Shop, where you can see small wood boats being built by hand.
@FlyTyer1948
Жыл бұрын
Marvelous collection of models & artifacts. It would be a pity if they were taken off display. Thank you for showing them.
@brianneale2251
Жыл бұрын
Thanks Drach, 2 of my favourite naval vessels in one space, an insect class gunboat and a K class submarine! Sorting my trip down now!
@Jpdt19
Жыл бұрын
Hooray I agree with you 100%. A combination approach is very much worth it. They have a good model of Belfast circa 1942 aboard her that sadly I think gets very little attention but is very much helpful.
@Jpdt19
Жыл бұрын
Hooray for a drach like
@frasermay7825
Жыл бұрын
Same for the Science Museum! They had some great 19th century sailing ship models, once upon a time.
@robdgaming
Жыл бұрын
I once read that the machine for making pulley blocks was invented or developed by Marc Brunel, Isambard Kingdom Brunel's father, who also designed the Thames Tunnel. And his son eventually did many amazing things, of course.
@magnificus8581
Жыл бұрын
I'll be visiting London for the first time next year and definitely plan in spending a good am6of time there. Thank you for the preview!
@patriciaduncan2146
Жыл бұрын
One of my all-time favourite museums.
@alanvcraig
Жыл бұрын
I went to the NMM maybe 6 years ago, it was a triumph of presentation over content. It could be worse, the whole shipping gallery disappeared from the science museum London, replaced with.... computers I think.
@jamestorrence9340
Жыл бұрын
When I visited UK on business for 15 months 1991 - 1992, I was able to visit the National Maritime Museum. I thought it very good, as was the nearby Queens House (name?). I also visited the Chatham Maritime Museum and the various doings in and around Portsmouth. Looking back, that's very odd, as I was in UK on USAF business.
@toyland12
Жыл бұрын
I was there 30 years ago and loved. Could have spent days there. They had a huge model of the battle of Trafalgar for example.
@scootergsp
Жыл бұрын
I would so enjoy a video of you and Dr. Clarke going through this museum. The Kids In A Toy Store analogy just wouldn't do it justice 🤣
@George_Ren
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for this video. I'm no doubt alone in saying that i realy doubt that I can make a trip to London, due to health & mobility issues. So a in depth video like this is priceless to me.
@knightsofn1
Жыл бұрын
I used to live at the top end of Greenwich Park in the mid 2000's and I'd often wander into the museum just to see the KGV model. It's a thing of utter beauty. However every time I went it seemed like they'd moved it further and further away from the main displays. The last time I saw it I had to hunt around for ages and eventually found it wedged in a stairwell. Glad to see it regaining it's rightful position again.
Жыл бұрын
If you love ship models, you need to visit the international martime Museum Hamburg. They have an insane number of large models.
@rydplrs71
Жыл бұрын
10:25, looks like a moon at sunrise to me. Thanks for another entertaining video. 👍
@jakublulek3261
Жыл бұрын
Drach is the only KZitemr who actually sold me on any sponsored product (Squarespace) because he seems really giving a damn about the product itself and promoting what works. Also, I am definitely going to the museum when I am with my English relatives again. Looks amazing.
@InchonDM
Жыл бұрын
I currently have no use for Squarespace, but Drach's demonstrations of the product have convinced me to keep it at the front of my mind for whenever such a need may arise.
@blxtothis
Жыл бұрын
Brilliant, I was bitterly disappointed just prior to Bat Flu when I last visited, I’m definitely returning before the end of this year! Cheers Drach.
@ashleysmith3106
Жыл бұрын
My favourite Maritime Museum would be that in Barcelona, in the original shipyards dating back to the 16th Century (rebuilt on the site of the 13thC. shipyards), with many actual ships and boats, models, and a wonderful full-size Reproduction of the royal galley of John of Austria (famous 16thC. admiral, and half-brother to King Philip II of Spain)
@oldtimer1102
Жыл бұрын
Thank you for the tour. Since I live in the States this is the best view available to me.
@glorgau
Жыл бұрын
MIT also has a nice display of ships models. More in the commercial line though... They are in the main campus building.
@bigblue6917
Жыл бұрын
I very much found the photograph at 11:45 very interesting. In the early days of the railway one of the people who spoke against the railway did so because he said it would encourage people to move away from the coast which would mean they would not serve in the Royal Navy. But as your photograph shows the reverse is true. Many of those who served in the navy did not live near the cost.
@jxh02
Жыл бұрын
7:10 If this is one of Marc Brunel's machines, it has significance well beyond maritime history. Industrial Revolution generally.
@MakeAllThingsBeautiful
Жыл бұрын
Greenwich is well worth a visit, the focal point could be the Museum and Greenwich park and observatory but also lots of naval boating related like the Cutty Sark also you could get to Greenwich on the river cruises if you wished and go past Westminster, Tower of London, Tower Bridge along the way, there is lots of good open spaces around Greenwich and Blackheath is a wonderful suburb/village. See Joolz Guides he does lots of history walks around London including Greenwich
Hi Drach, Thanks for the video. Great to see the models are back; used to love devouring all the details on 10 - 12 foot model ships in museums when I was a nipper. BTW: The multi-barrelled "machine gun" at @8:21 appears to have 5 barrels... so is it a quintuple mount - rather then a quad?
@tonybaker55
Жыл бұрын
My father donated the model that his grandfather, Josue Edward Jandron, made of the barque William Fruing from Jersey. Rumour had it that one of the family sailed on her, or possibly was the master at one stage. I must get to Greenwich to see if it is on display. I remember the model as a kid and it was in a large wooden display case on legs. My mother detested it though and the model was removed in its base, which was a jetty and sculptured sea. The model had no sails set, but was fully rigged and even had small figures on board. It was around the early 70s that it went to Greenwich. From family research, I know my 2nd great grandfather William Frank Le Montais was lost at sea in 1861, but the William Fruing was not built until 1867, so he could not have sailed on her. My great grandfather was born in 1853, so would have been a teenager when the ship was launched.
@AllanSitte
Жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing your experiences at the NMM sir. When I was in the USAF, I was stationed in the UK back in 1989. At one point during my tour, I had a single day trip to Greenwich with the plans to see the NMM. Sadly, my ride broke down and we ended up scrapping any effort to go inside as it was getting close to closing time when we got in town. It is heartening to see that the museum recognizes that they have a service to all spectrum of people, experienced and not experienced, interested in maritime history. The model of the machine to make pulleys was probably the one thing that caught my eye in this video. The little things that had to be developed to solve bigger problems... that is what I geek out on. Suggestion: Recently, the Chieftain conducted an interview of some very high rank US Army officers who are responsible for requirements establishment and procurement when it comes to Army vehicles and tanks. It was a tremendously interesting discussion. Maybe you could make a similar interview with equivalent counterparts in the Royal Navy. The processes for establishing requirements and procurement of new systems for the Royal Navy is likely just as interesting as what was presented in Chieftains interview. Thank you for all that you do Drach. Fair winds and calm seas.
@malcolmtaylor518
Жыл бұрын
There's an extensive collection of ship models at Chatham dockyard.
@peterschorn1
Жыл бұрын
How are vast amounts of huge, detailed warship models NOT wonderful for kids?
@jasonirwin4631
Жыл бұрын
I think the goal was less models more room for information displays that kids can easily understand. This issues is that kids don't care to read information displays that want to look at things. Why museums like this don't take advantage of qr codes and apps like artivive is don't know.
@MadMax-bq6pg
Жыл бұрын
Drach has discovered a new super power! For too long have the dumb-it-downers held sway. FEAR THE DRACH!
@bryansmith1920
Жыл бұрын
I was born and raised in the garden of England that being Kent I was a Kentish man from 6yrs on living along the A2 so Greenwich Park Greenwich meantime Woolwich barracks all within a short walk away indeed days with mates jumping on a train to wander the streets of London Cutty Sark was a favourite of mine a short walk from the Maritime. In the UK you are but a step away from a thousand years of history
@paulamos8970
Жыл бұрын
I am equally happy to see the inclusion of the models again and information written in more than one sentence. I was lucky enough to spend a whole week at the Liverpool Maritime Museum in 1991 to initially research the history of a yacht that I was helping renovate. She had been on the small ships registrar since her launch in 1896. So I was able to trace the history of her ownership. (6 volumes of the SSR at a time). On the third day when I went to the canteen, I ended up talking to one of the senior model curators and renovators. I ended up being invited to tour the 2 floors of models not on display to spend a day mooching around and spending 2nd afternoon in the workshops where the re-rigging of the age of sail builder's models was being done. Their ability to recreate scale replicas of the standing rigging was very skillful, particularly areas that had been parcelled and wound. Running rigging was very impressive in its replacement where a very long piece of rope that would originally have been one length without any long splices in the length was run up and down numerous times through blocks that didn't have wheels, being done on the model, was a pleasure to have been permitted to observe. I went to the museum again in 2012 and the same kind of dumbing down had occurred, the model floor had been reduced to a room with around ten models in the space that 30+ would have been. I do hope a similar thing has been done in Liverpool as in the National Maritime Museum in Greenwich.
@richmcgee434
Жыл бұрын
Some of that may be budgetary issues. Museum-quality model displays and dioramas do require some fairly expensive continuous maintenance to keep in top shape (even just dusting and cleaning some of the more elaborate setups can be very time-consuming, which eats into payroll). If you let it slide you wind up with things like the NY State Museum's gorgeous model of Grand Central Station - which (despite numerous complaints) had an ever-increasing collection of dead insects littering it for almost a decade and only got spruced up during the COVID shutdown. Used to work for a guy who cast custom resin replacement parts for museum displays. It was irregular work but by far the best paying job his shop ever did, far more profitable than wargame terrain ever was.
@pete7872
Жыл бұрын
Transport Museum in Glasgow went the same way, used to have an amazing model ship room, in addition to many other great displays now just a fancy building with nothing interesting inside.
@strydyrhellzrydyr1345
Жыл бұрын
Yeah... One of my favorite drydocks... I have been looking for it again, and couldn't find it... LOL
@topguntopcat
Жыл бұрын
Whist you were at the Maritime Musum you should have nipped across the road to the old Royal Navy collage. It’s an amazing building also I used to work their
@DanielsPolitics1
Жыл бұрын
7:30 that is a necessary step in the development of the production line manufactured iPhone in watching on.
@Sophocles13
Жыл бұрын
@ 14:55 I love how from the scoring on the nose of that 6 Inch shell, you can get a good visualization of the twist rate the shell had as it passed through the armor. Someone better at math than I could get a fairly accurate idea of the shells RPM at the moment of penetration by the relationship between the shells diameter VS the angle of the scratches (vertical length/horizontal width the scratch travelled) the hardest part IMO would be that the diameter of the nose isn't constant, (usually a variation of an ogive like a secant ogive, tangent ogive, spitzer ogive for elliptical ogive, based on application) so I'm not even sure what method of calculation would best. I Really wish I was better at math. I hope I was able to explain what I'm thinking clearly enough, and I know the info is pretty trivial and would be better found by finding the initial RPM of that particular round leaving the muzzle and then estimate its RPM based on the distance it travelled, but I saw the scratches and the maths of it popped into my head and seemed interesting. Anyways I'm rambling. Anyone good at math want to weigh in?
@tobiasz6613
Жыл бұрын
I think there was a lot of baby/bathwater done in the name of "accessability" and I'm glad some kind of better balance is being sought. Two of my favorite museums are the Scottish Fishing museum in Fife and, the number 1 reason to visit Amsterdam, the Maritime museum.
@DavidM2002
Жыл бұрын
I've visited Greenwich 3 times and loved it. Slightly OT..., when will someone finally build a cover for the Cutty Sark. Yes, I realize that it is rather large and tall. We finally built a cover over the St. Roche here in Vancouver after it sat in the elements for years. A very tall, very nice A-frame structure. It can be done and the Cutty Sark is such a treasure.
@ZGryphon
Жыл бұрын
Heck, the Museum of Science and Industry in Chicago built a giant exhibit hall for _U-505._ After that, I have ceased to believe anyone who says that _anything_ can't be put indoors. :)
@obsessivecorvid
Жыл бұрын
@@ZGryphon Well the Hughes H-4 Hercules(aka Spruce Goose) had a giant hanger built for it at the Evergreen Aviation & Space Museum
@SamCogley
Жыл бұрын
There is still something to be said for standing on the deck of an antique ship, feeling it rock in the waves and smelling the salt air. It's kind of part of the experience.
@rob5944
Жыл бұрын
During a visit to the technik museum in Speyer, Germany I was delightfully surprised to see most of the major units of the British and German fleets on display, plus many of worthwhile exhibits including the Russian space shuttle! Well worth a visit if your around. My native guide wanted to see the latter again since he saw it the first time lol
@frjonathanhill9817
Жыл бұрын
The best maritime museum I have ever been to is that at Hamburg, full of ship models from every era and also giving displays and artefacts going through the entire history of seafaring and the accompanying technologies. Sadly I only I had an afternoon there, where it would take at least a couple of days to see everything properly. I recommend it to anyone!
@johnhargreaves3620
Жыл бұрын
Another good ship museum in the UK for ship models is the Barrow Museum I would recommend if you are around there, well worth a visit as they have a really good selection of shipbuilder's models especially a fine shipbuilder's model of the Mikasa built at Barrow. Regards
@GARDENER42
Жыл бұрын
here's me in Cleator Moor & I didn't know there was a museum in Barrow. I'll have to take a drive down when I'm back in the UK.
@johnhargreaves3620
Жыл бұрын
@@GARDENER42 It is near the large assembly hall at Bae and has the lifeboat outside, use to have a nice little café too, it also tells the story of the shipyard and Barrow as a ship building town worth going its not big but very pleasant. Regards
@GARDENER42
Жыл бұрын
@@johnhargreaves3620 I've been to Barrow on business a few times but never had the time to look around.
@phaasch
Жыл бұрын
Wonderful to see this back, something like as it should be. How many individuals in their youth, went to somewhere like this, were simply bowled over by it, and then became obsessed with kit building their own collection? I know I was. Drawing and painting likewise- my senior school art master was himself tutored by Norman Wilkinson, and so another world of wonder and artistic inspiration was opened up for me. You just couldn't find that nowadays, the degrees of separation are too great.
@plasmaburndeath
Жыл бұрын
The one thing I can see Museums doing is some sort of spin on the "Dragon Quest" style physical interaction with exhibits. I actually used to enjoy the DQ setups in local Malls here in the U.S. a decade ago, good exercise, prizes, puzzles you had to run every which way to solve, just tons of fun. So my thought is it if your gonna try to make it more current, then keep the old and just add a layer of new interactivity, and give kids something to do safely. Obviously keep artifacts protected and safe areas for kids to do parts of the missions but it is tons of fun.
@adamskinner5868
Жыл бұрын
That was great, very enjoyable n interesting, "may I have some more please".
@johnnash5118
Жыл бұрын
I very much look forward to the “Smarting Up” generation to come of age, hopefully within my lifetime.
@brianreddeman951
Жыл бұрын
Back on my visit list!
@bobtookyt
Жыл бұрын
totally worthwhile
@BIG-DIPPER-56
Жыл бұрын
Enjoyable - Thanks ! ! 🙂😎👍
@jacksprat9172
Жыл бұрын
Surprised you're actually back to tell us already! Bet your name was mentioned though I'm a tad surprised Warspite wasn't in the guard ship position. Think you should launch a scathing attack on the size of the fleet.......
@NathanOkun
Жыл бұрын
Effect of explosive filler detonation on an AP or base-fuzed Common shell. AP shells were solid shot in some cases prior to circq-1900 and usually had a filled weight of about 3-4% through much of WWI, going down to 2.5% in the post-Jutland British Greenboy shells. The type of filler did not mean much as long as the filler completely detonated. After WWI, the filler sizes dropped considerably, with the percentages being in the 2.5% (British APC down to 1.4-2.5% (US AP). The improved fuzes (more reliable and resistant to damage during the slamming effects of armor impact) and booster charges (introduction of Tetryl in the late-1920s in place of using trinitrophenol (British Lyddite) or TNT with the earlier fuzes) gave enough of a reliability improvement, if the fuze remained undamaged and the projectile lower body remained uncracked due to the impact, that the higher average detonation power gave similar average post-impact damage to the earlier large-filler AP-type shells. Indeed, post-WWI base-fuzed Common shells used in most cruiser guns after WWI had their fillers also reduced to 3-4%, significantly improving their penetration ability by making them as solid as the AP was prior to WWI. The middle body wrapped around the explosive charge would usually be reduced to many small high-velocity pieces if a detonation (full or partial occurred, though the large number of booster charge failures meant that many explosions, even if the shell got through the armor intact, had virtually intact bases, only 1-4 big nose pieces and several medium-size medium-velocity middle-body pieces, rather like black powder gave in most cases. With 3-5% filler detonating full-power, the shell would usually have only its base plug region either still in one piece or in several large pieces. The nose of the shell would be in bigger pieces than the middle body but in more pieces than the base region. With 2.5% or less filler in post-WWI AP shell designs, the base plug in a large number of cases remained intact, with the nose region varying in damage from that one-piece exploded US 16" Mark 8 AP shell to perhaps a few very large chunks. Being able to get through the thick armor at an oblique angle (longer range angle of fall increases) was considered important to causing maximum internal damage to the enemy warship, so some reduction in the number and size of the shell's body pieces was considered necessary to give the shell the maximum chance of getting inside the enemy target in an intact condition before exploding. Hulls in armored warships during the 20th Century were large and had internal light armor to restrict damage to the smallest volume possible, so hits on the armored regions there required an explosive charge to spread out the pieces of the projectile sideways -- this made base-fuzed Common shells more damage-causing than AP shells, which was why after the Washington Naval Treaty of 1923 restricted cruiser armor thickness, AP shells became either a secondary ammo or were eliminated altogether in anti-cruiser base-fuzed shells. (Indeed, duri9ng WWII in the Pacific, the US Navy realized that the Japanese cruisers had only 1-2" of homogeneous armor, so they had a large number of 8" nose-fuzed HC rounds modified with only a solid steel nose plug (no Auxiliary Detonating Fuze either) and the base fuze -- US Navy WWII 6" and up HC rounds had both a nose fuze and a base fuze to allow various kinds of targets to be attacked -- replaced by older obsolete base detonating fuzes or, when those ran out, by the usual AP shell's Mark 21 Base Fuze. US Navy heavy cruisers now had the option of using, in effect, delay-action AP shells against Japanese cruisers with 6% fillers -- four times the explosive charge of a usual US Navy WWII AP shell! They had the most "bang for the buck" of any WWII ship against their armored opponent.)
@kgs42
Жыл бұрын
The IWM at Lambeth was cleared out of its exhibits and turned into a kind of Tate Modern leisure destination and I'll never get over the depressing shock of that. Now it sounds like something similar happened at Greenwich. Predictable, I suppose. It sounds as though some amends have been made but grudgingly, I can imagine. It puts me off the NMM as a bucket list item, and that is really quite upsetting. It makes me really angry that silly zealots have taken our museums away from us.
@celiacresswell6909
Жыл бұрын
This is so much better than it was: I was genuinely angry about how rubbish it was 8 years ago: it looked like the director had never been to sea. Quite a skill to turn 🇬🇧 maritime history into something boring!
@jayfelsberg1931
Жыл бұрын
6:47 - The Germans kept the side-by-side forward mounting on the light cruisers throughout WWI.
@patchgatsby9138
Жыл бұрын
If you visit a romantic interest in another country and she takes you to the National Maritime Museum even though she has no interest, you might want to marry this person. It has worked out very well for me!
@mediocrefunkybeat
Жыл бұрын
A few years ago, I went to a Stately Home in the South-West of England and left feeling very disappointed because amongst other issues (rude staff, dirty toilets, poor café) even though the artifacts were on display, the captioning of them was truly dreadful. The worst kind of first-person semi-fictionalised 'accounts' of speculative 'events' that may have occurred in the space written in character, be that the character of a maid, a guest, etc. All at adult reading height In the end we went to an abbey run by English Heritage a couple of miles away and had a fantastic time exploring the grounds. I found the stately home so unbearably patronising that after my visit I sent a really strongly-worded email to the National Trust and after a week or so they - to my surprise - acknowledged that the displays were poor (even though they were fairly new), the staff needed training and that the facilities had evidently been sub-standard on the day. I ended up getting my money back. It looks like the National Maritime Museum have also started to get the message. There is nothing more patronising than pandering to kids. Children that are interested will want to look at everything - including detailed models and old uniforms. Whoever thought flashing lights and large text is inherently more interesting really needs to watch what children actually do in museums...
@generaljemssmjem437
Жыл бұрын
I may visit that along with the imperial war museum since I'm in the uk visiting
@agnyr
Жыл бұрын
Good to hear that. I was there in 2013 and it was... ah, meh :/ Btw, in 1910 the Imperial Japan gave a set of models to the Greenwich Royal Naval College - one of them was a model of cruiser Takao... Are they also visible today?
@kidmohair8151
Жыл бұрын
I don't know a kid worth the name who doesn't *love* a model, including those who are no longer chronologically "kids"
@doncooper6801
Жыл бұрын
Couldn't agree more. When I was attending Woolwich Poly back in the late 1960s, early 70s, I would visit the museum often. Imagine my disappointment when I visited in the 80s. Glad to know the museum is going back to the way it used to be. Perhaps there had been a change in management in the museum?
@britzilla2374
Жыл бұрын
This is great, I went on a grand tour of ship related gubbins in london before summer, ended up doing everything but Greenwich, now that they have the models back however, might consider it again, though, maybe not also Belfast, my lungs have had enough asbestos for a lifetime, and enough stairs
@darrellsmith4204
Жыл бұрын
Bonus points for the use of the word "gubbins".
@magnemoe1
Жыл бұрын
Can not think of anything more kid friendly than large scale models of battleships. Outside of making them radio controlled boats with working guns who can shoot at each others
@richardcowling7381
Жыл бұрын
I know if they'd had the models on display, me and my other half would have spent a lot longer there then we did. Interactive displays can be rather hard to hear when there's a whole load of children chattering away.
@wayneclayton5426
Жыл бұрын
I'm surprised that according to that map of Trafalgar veterans there are none from Hull or Grimsby. I would have thought the Humber region would have a wealth of experienced sailors. Did all the whaling ships & fishing boats owners bar the navy from recruiting their men?
@toddwebb7521
Жыл бұрын
Glad to hear that museum is back to being good
@arthour051
Жыл бұрын
"Large scale, accurate builder's models are a great resource for naval enthusiasts" Bitch please, kids love models! And what is a model if not a giant toy? The inner child wants one!
@trentonarney6066
Жыл бұрын
Why would they remove these?! As a kid and as an adult I love models. When I got to tour the museum at Annapolis the models were some of the best parts. I also liked the bone carving and models the French sailors who had been held captive made and sold to buy food and clothes from vendors.
@firstcynic92
Жыл бұрын
8:27. Quint barreled, not quad. 10:30. Don't use flash when taking pictures of paintings. Get a camera that works well in low light. I get good results with my Sony RX 100 iv, and a steady hand. That one won't fire the flash unless you first pop up the flash.
@donlawson3330
Жыл бұрын
Did you see the Rogers collection at the Naval Academy while you were in the US? Or the collection at the Mariner's Museum in Newport News?
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