I forgot the to put the Red Dead Redemption 2 results at the end (editing error), but here are the performance stats: 1080p, DF Console Settings, Avg FPS: 34 | 1% Low: 20 | 0.1% Low: 16 Thanks for watching :)
@jounalehtio2317
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the quality content!
@GameFrostYT
2 жыл бұрын
Editing errors are normal, but nice video
@Arthur-jx8bm
2 жыл бұрын
Hate it when you find an error in your video after you've already rendered and uploaded it!
@PanaehaliTut
2 жыл бұрын
You also forgot to mention that 610 motherboards only support 1 memory channel. Therefore some of the stutters are not inherently CPUs fault. Withcher 3 is for sure able to run fluently at 2 core CPU. Same can be said about CS:GO. I've played them without any hiccups on 2c/2t cpu before.
@Varmint260
2 жыл бұрын
@@PanaehaliTut Intel made a mistake on their CES slide - H610 only supports one DIMM per channel, not one channel entirely - two DIMMs like in this video are running in dual channel.
@DawidDoesTechStuff
2 жыл бұрын
The new stock Intel cooler actually looks pretty cool. 😄
@rayirth.upside-down
2 жыл бұрын
True it looks a Zalman
@callofdutysoviet
2 жыл бұрын
The design is the new hottest trend
@gigachadgaiming6602
2 жыл бұрын
Its like a jet engine baby
@gamin546
2 жыл бұрын
@@gigachadgaiming6602 It looks like one, but definitely not as powerful as one.
@Chris-yy7qc
2 жыл бұрын
Sadly it just looks good. Performancewise its the old pig with new make up.
@DrearierSpider1
2 жыл бұрын
The Celeron is the tech meme that keeps on giving haha.
@reloadedspade176
2 жыл бұрын
Love the pfp lol
@My_Old_YT_Account
2 жыл бұрын
@Monochromatik There's some happy customers on the business side usually using them as thinclients
@shortscouture1
2 жыл бұрын
@Monochromatik schools gobble these up, especially the thinkpad 11es
@hyperfarriergaming3328
2 жыл бұрын
Lol
@dycedargselderbrother5353
2 жыл бұрын
@Monochromatik The very first Celerons were pretty good. While the cache-less versions did struggle in office applications, they were a decent value for gaming. The 'A' version that followed ended up being arguably the best processor on the market for a bit of time when overclocked. Intel really wanted to crush AMD's K6 so they went a little overboard with the value proposition. Soon after that it started dropping in value precipitously and has long been the "Is this good enough for grandma's PC?" processor as we know it today.
@MidWitPride
2 жыл бұрын
I would had loved to see how this compares to AMD's 3000g, as they are both at very similar price ranges.
@mtaufiqn5040
2 жыл бұрын
I'm pretty sure that the winner is definitely 3000G
@VioletViolent
2 жыл бұрын
The G7400 would prolly be more apt as a point of reference since that model actually has hyperthreading, unlike this one. It'd mean a 20$ MSRP difference tho
@RK-zf1jm
2 жыл бұрын
Think the 3000g would beat it soundly as its hyperthreaded for one yes its 2 cores but its 4 threads and they are ryzen threads not left over bulldozer stock like the fm2 dual and quad cores
@Tonyx.yt.
2 жыл бұрын
Ryzen 3000g cost as much as i3 12100...
@erikkarsies4851
2 жыл бұрын
LoL The 3000G is here in the Netherlands as expensive as the spanking new i3 12100F (If you have the gpu used here you dont need a iGPU) which will outperform it dramatically. You might have to pay a little bit more for a mainboard though. And I am curious after the Pentium performance !
@MOHAMEDFATHALAH
2 жыл бұрын
The ones that performed near the 10900k were in a specific ASRock mobo and ran at 4.4ghz.
@Yackass
2 жыл бұрын
also running linux and not windows
@WinBeta918
2 жыл бұрын
@@Yackass"That obviously has little effect" Linux had a new update so maybe it did have a bigger effect
@chillhour6155
2 жыл бұрын
Do you know which model specifically ?, I'm looking to do platform upgrade with the new I3
@adiirfan01
2 жыл бұрын
@@WinBeta918 geekbench always get slight boost if you running on linux
I thought finally we would be getting hyperthreading on the Celerons for Intel and the Pentium getting 4 cores and 4 threads, but looks like that's not happening so far. At least it has great single-thread perfomance. Opening up WordPad will be very snappy!
@najeebshah.
2 жыл бұрын
Thats next gen
@Mitsuoxx
2 жыл бұрын
I think maybe Minecraft could achieve 144fps in low settings with this cpu lmao
@TheEnhas
2 жыл бұрын
I was hoping that this gen Celerons would've been 2/4, Pentiums 2/4 + 2 e-cores and i3s 4/8 + 2 e-cores
@najeebshah.
2 жыл бұрын
@@TheEnhas next gen pentiums will be quad cores and celerons 2/4 config as far as current leaks go. Though this years pentoum 7400 is going to be quite a capable budget cpu with 2/4 golden cove cores.
@cosminmilitaru9920
2 жыл бұрын
@@najeebshah. How many years have you been saying that, a decade?
@hotmeal8531
2 жыл бұрын
Damn atleast those new intel stock coolers look nice! I even liked the look of the stock cooler that came with my 11400f
@cosminmilitaru9920
2 жыл бұрын
But it barely cools a garbage Celeron CPU.
@justinbuckley
2 жыл бұрын
I love how intel have managed to make their stock cooler even cheaper!
@w19ely85
2 жыл бұрын
12th Gen Celeron, RGIHD giving the people what we really want lol 😂
@Redmage913
2 жыл бұрын
Just from background operations alone would I never go back to a two threaded system for Windows. The system would be fighting itself way too often for any productive use :/ Looking forward to the new Pentium video!
@ayuchanayuko
2 жыл бұрын
Its fine so long as you keep your system clean.
@KiraSlith
2 жыл бұрын
@@ayuchanayuko > Keeping it running Clean > Running Vanilla Windows 10/11 You can only pick one these days. So much spyware sheet in Windows you can't get the full grunt out of any machine, made painfully obvious by the fact a Linux distro w/ WINE (when your choice of Linux distro isn't busy breaking itself) still runs Windows programs and games far faster than Windows can.
@ayuchanayuko
2 жыл бұрын
@@KiraSlith Sure I run Linux too, but Linux right now is also getting way more bloated unless you run some lean distro (e.g. Mint) with XFCE. Even Zorin with XFCE is slow. Don't even get started with Elementary. When you do get faster performance with WINE, good luck with compatibility and hardware acceleration, not to mention the multitude of WINE configurations you have to keep. I have Vanilla Win10 in all our PCs. Heck, its even running smoothly in a 2GB Atom tablet with 32GB emmc (32bit Win10). I could even play Killing Floor 1! I also have it running well enough in a Atom-based Celeron laptop with 4GB RAM and a 500GB HDD. Sure they both slug up if I enable my Oracle DB2 server but thats not their workload. Both of them I could do light Photoshop comfortably for web design or photo retouches. A fresh install shouldn't slug the system up, else something else is wrong, like a dying HDD or an overheating CPU. Had the same experience with an MSI laptop (E350, 2GB RAM, 320GB HDD). Win10 kept hanging but continued, Mint was faster and responsive but things eventually just stops loading. Apparently the HDD was dying. Same banana with a Core Solo laptop. Same banana too with a colleague's old Atom laptop. My experience with all our 4GB Core 2-era PCs where users kept reporting of being slow, was that the users kept installing all these crap either in their browsers or autoruns. That and running Chrome! Switching to Firefox and Chromium finally made them able to multitask. Meanwhile, the other users who were "clean" were able to Photoshop/InDesign/Firefox/Chromium cleanly. Same systems. This "dirty" usage's ramifications are magnified when using an HDD as the system will keep on swapping to disk. Using an SSD will help but you'll be killing your SSD faster, especially DRAM-less ones. I even got a Pentium 4 Cedar Mill being used as a "type writer" machine for guest users. No problem there. At most, what I've disable to increase performance for HDD users is to disable the built in Windows antivirus. Superfetch eventually dies down once it stabilizes. Only had to do it for the HDD-based Pentium 4 and another HDD-based Athlon II X3. Linux is not the magic solution. It does have an environment that prevents autoruns and bloated browsers from easily happening for the common user. But at the end of the day, its all PEBCAK assuming okay hardware and clean & lean software config. Anything more than a Core 2 Duo should be fast enough. Especially so anything starting from Sandy Bridge. Skylake/Zen and above is a bonus.
@prateekpanwar646
2 жыл бұрын
@@ayuchanayuko I had i3 6100 (2 cores, 4 thread) I was spending more time to disable task manager tasks, clearing task manager every 10 mins than actually using it. I won't recommend even my enemy a dual core. Just buy old dell optiplex with i5 3rd gen/2nd whatever you get. It'll be 4c/4t still like 2x of celeron and whole pc will cost like 1/4th (1/2 after few upgrades). There's 0 reason to go for a celeron, If you are paying for h610, ddr4 ram, ssd and new everything then you should be able to go for i3 9th gen atleast.
@Negiku
2 жыл бұрын
@@prateekpanwar646 IMO, 2 cores/4 threads are just fine for daily usage and very light gaming, especially with ssd. Maybe you have too much programs or something. For browsing and desktop publishing, 2c/2t is also fine for the most part. I'd however never buy 2 threaded cpu
@KouroshFarrokhzad
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your hard work on this - all of us interested in budget builds appreciate it!
@GameFrostYT
2 жыл бұрын
Its great that this cpu has impressive single core performance but 2 cores is really not enough for daily use in 2022, like it can probably do web browsing but thats about it. Some games will have issues running on this. If it was 2c/4t it will be a better cpu overall. And will compete against amd's athlon!
@Jsteeeez
2 жыл бұрын
The h610 is also limited to single channel memory which will hurt the 1% lows.
@GameFrostYT
2 жыл бұрын
@@Jsteeeez oh my, that makes it even worse. Why would they make a motherboard with SINGLE CHANNEL memory????? Thats a waste of silicon. Single channel hurts performance a lot
@TheOriginalBruh
2 жыл бұрын
@@GameFrostYT it is dual channel, but it only has 2 dimm slots
@ronanharris8216
2 жыл бұрын
@@GameFrostYT it's updated, it's actually 1 channel per DIMM or 2 channel at max. The higher boards gets more channel per DIMM therefore they can split up to 4 lanes.
@GameFrostYT
2 жыл бұрын
@@TheOriginalBruh I read the motherboard specs that RGinHD used in the video and yep it does have dual channel. I guess some h610 mobos may not have it
@deathtrap1976
2 жыл бұрын
It's been a long time since the last time I've seen a CPU suffering that way.
@RuruFIN
2 жыл бұрын
I remember that when I had a Pentium G4400 (Skylake, 2c/2t). Getting a hyperthreaded G4560 helped a lot.
@dd22koopaesverde58
2 жыл бұрын
i dont see the point of this cpu old i3 are cheaper and better
@urbancats1
22 күн бұрын
Usually, the newer the CPU, the more secure it is.
@dd22koopaesverde58
22 күн бұрын
@@urbancats1 yea so secure that cant even open 3 tabs
@urbancats1
22 күн бұрын
@@dd22koopaesverde58 I forgot to add that this thing runs 19W at 100% load. Most CPU's that has the same type of performance will most likely run at 40W. May not seem crucial but some systems have really limited power supplies where most of the power is focused on another part. It could also run Windows 11 without having TPM problems unlike older CPU's. Now it is arguable that you can bypass it by editing the installation file for Windows but do you really think big companies would have the time to edit it? I understand you may think this processor is useless and it's a waste of time, but there are markets and customers that are willing to pay for this kinds of processors.
@joshb6470
2 жыл бұрын
my first build ever with my own money was with a celeron 266 with the intention to upgrade to a pentium 266 mmx later, that was such a realization in what the L2 cache difference was once I did do the upgrade.
@w4hid
2 жыл бұрын
As a Celeron G5905 user, High Framerates are not strong suite of celeron 2 core cpu. Capping FPS to 60 or 30 can eliminate stuttering and frame dips.
@TheDaNuker
2 жыл бұрын
Never expect to see a review on the Alder Lake Celeron this early, but sadly gone are the glory days of the Celeron 300A. Might probably make for a decent industrial machine build but there's probably much cheaper options for that.
@waveyan
2 жыл бұрын
I think celeron is sort of like the nvidia mx graphics cards but for intel. They make it not too good on purpose (no hyperthreading, 2 cores) so that it doesn't outperform the chips that are ranked higher in the intel ecosystem. Nvidia disables a lot of geforce experience features and other stuff to make sure they aren't as good as the other laptop graphics cards
@IWannaBTheGuy
2 жыл бұрын
There are 4 core Celeron such as the J4125 which runs on par with the first few gen i5s at 10 watts. Only that people don't ever bother making videos about it because it's mini-PC or OEM only.
@Jasontvnd9
2 жыл бұрын
@@IWannaBTheGuy wait till you see what the 9w i7-1265u will do when it comes out , 14 core processor running at 9w.
@JustSomeDinosaurPerson
2 жыл бұрын
@@Jasontvnd9 Where are you reading 14 cores? I could only find info on it having 2 P cores (your normal cores) and 8 E cores, with about 12 threads. And that really isn't much to write home about because the E cores are kinda trash for now, especially when the Windows OS can't properly schedule tasks between the different types of cores currently. They need a lot more time to improve before really being seen as worthwhile. It is also going to run at 15w TDP. Which is gonna limit the performance of its 12 threads by a fair bit. Right now Intel just can't really compete with ARM on hyper efficiency and performance in the low wattage range.
@pietrocavicchioli6128
2 жыл бұрын
@@JustSomeDinosaurPerson it's their first try at this, it's still a decent try
@Andrushe4kanka
2 жыл бұрын
mx450 is much better in gaming than this cpu.
@nemanjaglisovic2740
2 жыл бұрын
A great improvement for school PC's. Jokes aside, at this price, it's really difficult to beat it in things that this was meant for. It's perfect for office work, like word, excel, web browsing, or even for machine that serves only for spotify. Can't wait AMDs response. I like this competition.
@TsunamicBug
Жыл бұрын
My core 2 duo is still great for that, though probably not for much longer and certainly not as efficient. But it gets the job done as a web browsing machine
@flintfrommother3gaming
Жыл бұрын
3000G. It's for everything and includes hyper threading, there is no reason to get this.
@jherr856
2 жыл бұрын
Besides a comparsion with an AMD CPU like the 3000G, i would love to see it against an E8600. So we can see how far CPU Cores did come, maybe even compare them in some older games which were fine with 2 Cores
@TheSpotify95
2 жыл бұрын
Yep, 2C/2T Celeron vs 2C/2T Core2 Duo would be interesting.
@Kraven83
2 жыл бұрын
Agreed
@fleurdewin7958
2 жыл бұрын
There is just no contest. Example in Age of Empires IV, the Athlon 3000G will run fine probably. However, the E8600 will absolutely not run the game at all due to lack of AVX instruction support which is the game requirement. AVX was introduced during Sandy Bridge era. Starcraft 2 will work fine for both of them since it runs only 2 cores because it is an old game.
@jherr856
2 жыл бұрын
@@fleurdewin7958 yeah nur not every modern Game requires modern instructions Besidese we already know that the Pentium destroy an old wolfdale or similiar, the Point ist to See how much it will lose And what framerate can be achieved in SC2 for example with a modern golden Cover dual core
@wishusknight3009
2 жыл бұрын
An E8400 running at 3.2 ghz with a 400mhz base clock could surpass an I3-2100 back in the day. Mostly due to its really large low latency L2 cache. Dont forget, penryn's cache was 6mbs and 12 cycles. Being twice the size of the 2100's 3mb that was at a much higher latency in the 40's. And an IPC that was not all that bad compared to Sandy Bridge (25% lower or so). Until games started needing more threads, than things like the sound would glitch and such. So assuming we use a game that both CPU's could run proficiently, I would suspect the 6900 could double the tuned E8400. The IPC has gained quite a bit since the Sandy Bridge days.
@randomnessness716
2 жыл бұрын
So awesome seeing this channel constantly grow and seeing your hard work pay off, I still remember the first vid I watched of yours a few years back with the budget xeon builds. I love the fact that while you might be the wealthiest tech reviewer you're definitely unique in the sense you make do with what you have. I hope that as the channel grows and you make more money that you can bring us more of these oddball builds.
@MrMeanh
2 жыл бұрын
When I get annoyed at the stutters in the gameplay on a youtube vid, then I know it's a bad gaming experience. Good video though and way more interesting than more 12600k/12900k benchmarks!
@Mitsuoxx
2 жыл бұрын
2 cores 4 threads would be enough to break the low cost market but well, Intel being Intel, what a surprise. Maybe in next socket, it will exists a Celeron with 4 threads.
@RandomGaminginHD
2 жыл бұрын
The Pentium has got that covered, hopefully I’ll review it soon
@Mitsuoxx
2 жыл бұрын
@@RandomGaminginHD waiting to see, thank you!! :)
@ABaumstumpf
2 жыл бұрын
........ "Intel being Intel" Nah, that is just you being ignorant. Intel has CPUs basically for all segments. 2c2t, 2c4t, 4c8t - only no 4c4t right now for desktop. And a 2c2t is mroe than good enough when you do nto want to game AAA games as even this video shows.
@Mitsuoxx
2 жыл бұрын
@@ABaumstumpf Ok
@RANDOMNATION907
2 жыл бұрын
I would have loved the 3000G even more if it had 11 Vega cores.
@timytimotius4679
2 жыл бұрын
What are you talking about?
@RANDOMNATION907
2 жыл бұрын
@@timytimotius4679 AMD Athlon 3000G
@timytimotius4679
2 жыл бұрын
@@RANDOMNATION907 a3000g doesn't have 11 vega cu. It only has 3.
@RANDOMNATION907
2 жыл бұрын
@@timytimotius4679 Yep, correct. My original comment was that it would have been nice _IF_ the 3000G had 11 Vega cores.
@timytimotius4679
2 жыл бұрын
@@RANDOMNATION907 I see
@mitchellbutalla6515
2 жыл бұрын
I used to game on a pentium g3258 and for games like witcher 3 with stuttering there were programs that would limit the cpu usage to 99% (instead of letting it max out at 100%) and it would greatly diminish the stuttering issues. For these low spec builds you should look into something like that.
@unojojo
2 жыл бұрын
Could you give an example of one of these programs?
@abdullahk0405
2 жыл бұрын
Well you could just use battery management to limit the cpu to 99%
@terbo2000
2 жыл бұрын
Had the G3258 running at 4.5-4.6 as well and needed to do the same, limiting the usage to 99% and then it was fine.
@mudgie0205
2 жыл бұрын
1% wouldn’t be enough to make make a big difference but likely results in framerate being lower and therefore the CPU can stabilise frame delivery a little more
@level8473
2 жыл бұрын
the pentium g4560 + rx 570 played witcher 3 at high 70+ fps
@Piketom1
2 жыл бұрын
The excellent single threaded performance of these new chips is really exciting. Paired with a decent but inexpensive SSD, this will make reasonably priced PCs feel snappy for basic use.
@aleksazunjic9672
2 жыл бұрын
Thy could actually be used in some not so old games, with decent GPU. For example, in Witcher 3 if you lock FPS to 30, you will get reasonable good experience .
@them2545
2 жыл бұрын
I was thinking Minecraft server perhaps with mods
@FAKEAXIS
2 жыл бұрын
Surprised he didn’t check out emulation as that really needs good single core performance.
@frozenturbo8623
2 жыл бұрын
@@them2545 You went little extereme with mods, Mods mostly require alot of threads and cores.
@crylune
2 жыл бұрын
@@frozenturbo8623 no lol, it requires memory. minecraft still doesnt know what the fuck multithreading is
@potahters1228
2 жыл бұрын
I was surprised rdr2 was even running on a celeron....quite fluidly especially! Did you ever try gaming on Intel's Iris Xe integrated GPUs? I've heard they're one of, if not the most powerful integrated GPUs these days...iGPUs really have come a long way
@RandomGaminginHD
2 жыл бұрын
I haven’t yet but I do plan to soon :)
@xPandamon
2 жыл бұрын
Iris XE is only good for the mobile chips. The desktop variants are not up to par with AMDs Vega graphics
@nesyboi9421
2 жыл бұрын
Nah Ryzen still beats them out with their apus. Integrated graphics (when they decide to do it) has always been AMD's strong suit.
@toshirohex139
2 жыл бұрын
The stack from top to bottom is amds vega integrated, gt 1030, intelgrated, gt 710.
@nesyboi9421
2 жыл бұрын
@@toshirohex139 honestly better off getting a used GTX 900 series than either the GT1030 or the GT 710 to be honest
@lucingolo
2 жыл бұрын
This kind of videos are more than welcome. Now that LowSpecGamer has betrayed the PC community we need all the help we can get.
@Oraceon
2 жыл бұрын
Imagine for a second a CPU shortage instead of GPU. 3090ti, 128GB of DDR5 6400, and a Celeron 6900.
@wishusknight3009
2 жыл бұрын
Or an Atom n230....
@illogical1421
2 жыл бұрын
lol had a good laugh, those Celerons would be too damn expensive lmao.
@wishusknight3009
2 жыл бұрын
@@illogical1421 ----"lol had a good laugh, those Celerons would be too damn expensive lmao." Like $200 for each FPS lol. But the catch is the cpu is $600
@Spido68_the_spectator
2 жыл бұрын
Nah it will be too repulsive. Pentium is like 300% better value
@deanrichards1219
2 жыл бұрын
The farcry 6 results gave me flashbacks to trying to run low-end hardware with Crysis all them years back! 🤣
@donottouch9110
2 жыл бұрын
You should make another video testing this chip with older games like fallout series old gta and allot of games that were known to just use 2 cores which I think it would prove to be great performance since old games like single threaded performance allot and not allot of cores
@MidWitPride
2 жыл бұрын
True. This could potentially run some pre-2009 games like a beast.
@takehirolol5962
2 жыл бұрын
DX 9 and 10
@0101_root
2 жыл бұрын
That Witcher 3 gameplay footage had me panicking and pausing the video over and over, until i saw the 1% and 0.1% lows 🤣
@PAcifisti
2 жыл бұрын
It's sad that they didn't go the same way than with the mobile 12th-gen CPU's, 1-2 powerful cores and 4 efficiency cores. These things would've prolly been quite good with 2 Power cores and 2-4 efficiency cores, though that might've made them cost about the same as a 4 P core cpu anyways.
@RmRoyalflush
2 жыл бұрын
HT would have done a great deal already. 2 cores are just not enough these days, 4 are sometimes not enough as software is getting better at multithreading.
@aleksazunjic9672
2 жыл бұрын
That is because these Celerons are in fact rejected i7 or even i9 processors. You cannot really plan what you will get. Sometime they end up like i3, sometime as Pentium, and sometime as Celeron.
@PAcifisti
2 жыл бұрын
@@aleksazunjic9672 I guess that's why the low power mobile lineup looks so similar. It's binned / rejected CPU's from few similar types.
@aleksazunjic9672
2 жыл бұрын
@@PAcifisti Yup. As a rule, they produce higher-end chips, and rejects get binned and sold as lower end chips. One of the reasons why there is a shortage of low tier AMD CPUs - technology got so good that there aren't as many rejects, and demand is high .
@ABaumstumpf
2 жыл бұрын
I would have gotten an i3/Pentium if they offered something like 2p4e or 2p8e for desktop. @@aleksazunjic9672 No they are not. Celerons are using a different die altogether. the 8c CPUs already have a different die then the 6c CPUs... if you don't know anything then don't pretend.
@UncommonKnowledge587
2 жыл бұрын
Great video showing how two cores is not enough, in 2022 and earlier, unless you want an office PC.
@anthonyduarte4260
2 жыл бұрын
One of the only men I trust on the subject.
@Innosos
2 жыл бұрын
Oh boy new budget toys. :) Best part of tech releases is to see the bottom bar raised. You can always buy (a bit) more power for a lot more money, but never the other way round.
@zgoaty9235
2 жыл бұрын
Interesting part of this Celeron is that this would be PERFECT for retro PC games that rarely ever utilized more than two cores, the majority of them mostly using one core. But of course, Windows 10/11 compatibility is mostly crap unless games from back then have been made compatible with the current OS’s, which isn’t a lot of them.
@GriggsHw
2 жыл бұрын
2 cores 2 threads in 2022, and I thought my old Pentium G3258 was already struggling hard back in 2017/18 before upgrading to the Ryzen.
@Noruzenchi86
2 жыл бұрын
Many games made after 2010 absolutely require quad core even though bench-wise they're more than capable of processing them, so the games results aren't surprising
@Spido68_the_spectator
2 жыл бұрын
Require quad threads *
@MedRoit
2 жыл бұрын
Can't wait for the Pentium 7400 video! Will you compare it to the athlon 3000g with its integrated graphics?
@Driskoll97
2 жыл бұрын
The Witcher 3 is one of those games that really takes advantage of having multiple cores/threads. You could even play it on old hexacore AMD CPUs like Phenom x6 or FX 6300. Its framerates won't be higher than 40 fps but it will never dip. Could even get perfect frametime with an FX 8350
@raresmacovei8382
2 жыл бұрын
Played Witcher 3 with a 560 Ti, HD 7850 and HD 7970 GHz, alongside an FX 6300 at 4.5 GHz. I was never CPU bound, lol.
@JorgieTV01
2 жыл бұрын
Had a good experience with that game on a fx 8120, was very surprised or my expectations were so low, but very playable.
@Solly_March_Goat
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you! I've seen so many vids on i9s and i7s but this is what I want to see
@beanbag8020
2 жыл бұрын
Imagine booting up your i9 9900K system only to remember that it’s almost being outperformed by a Celeron in some respects… moore’s law really doesn’t pull its punches eh
@thealien_ali3382
2 жыл бұрын
Hahaha my i9 9900k is doing great baby
@nesyboi9421
2 жыл бұрын
12th gen I3 pretty much matches the 9900k as well. Glad I finally moved on from my 7700HQ in my laptop.
@user-wq9mw2xz3j
2 жыл бұрын
@@nesyboi9421 nah, it'll stitter in some games because of 4 cores.
@Jasontvnd9
2 жыл бұрын
In what respect though? Single threaded? Who cares really just about every application that needs performance is optimized for multiple core cous.
@nesyboi9421
2 жыл бұрын
@@user-wq9mw2xz3j From Gamer's Nexus's benchmarks it looks pretty good though.
@lisandrot01
2 жыл бұрын
Kind of insane that RDR2 and Cyberpunk ran with seemingly less stutter than GTA SA. If I didn’t know any better, I’d distrust these results.
@Photo0021
2 жыл бұрын
I’m honestly impressed? If it can manage gaming then it must be quite decent for basic usage.
@cosminmilitaru9920
2 жыл бұрын
It can manage gaming? You didn't even watch the videos!? It's full of freezes and stutters, if you play like that you'll get headaches all the time. Geez' the level of denial on some people...
@aleksazunjic9672
2 жыл бұрын
It can manage some older games, you just need to lock FPS . This would smooth most micro-stutters.
You would rather go for i3 9th gen + h310 (It costs $90 atleast at my place) than this potato and it'll be still cheaper and faster.
@wishusknight3009
2 жыл бұрын
@@prateekpanwar646 True that.
@theanglerfish
Жыл бұрын
it´s surprising i remember old days when using 2 core cpu was really painful today it´s not problem for basic pc tasks thank you!
@hunterfabio
2 жыл бұрын
I would highly highly recommend to try a 2core 4 threaded part, you will be amazed by the performance...I would say it's on par with a 6th gen i5 easily, which is amazing if you ask me :D
@My_Old_YT_Account
2 жыл бұрын
If you're talking about the Celeron from this video, no my i5 2500S runs games much better
@hipster1655
2 жыл бұрын
@@My_Old_YT_Account the G6900 is a 2c2t part
@giovanniruggiero469
2 жыл бұрын
@@My_Old_YT_Account he’s talking about the pentium gold g7400
@mitoCoroadoJr
2 жыл бұрын
A PCDiga já tem este cpu? Ahahahah
@Mark-mt4xt
2 жыл бұрын
It took them so many years but they finally did it. An actual good looking stock cooler
@bardofhighrenown
2 жыл бұрын
You could probably get better gaming results by increasing the resolution above 1080. I think putting more weight on your GPU would make things less stuttery and scaling back cpu intensive processes like draw distance.
@pbatacan
2 жыл бұрын
I hope intel will start offering triple cored celerons with HT. I think it’s cool. Having 6 threads in the lowest end.
@pbatacan
2 жыл бұрын
@John Hooper it’s time to move on from 2/2 or 2/4.
@ifagainst
2 жыл бұрын
Loved the video! In this very low budget cpu's, could you add some video encoding and video editing reviews? I would like to know if this cpu can work as a side production PC
@UncleMikeRetro
2 жыл бұрын
Swimming in the shallow end again. I like it!
@HB-Productions
2 жыл бұрын
The bit that boils my blood is that Intel is wasting resources/time making dual-core CPUs - modern software and workloads really deserves a quad-core it's false economy!
@RandomGaminginHD
2 жыл бұрын
I’d like to have seen the celeron have 4 threads. That would have been cool
@w19ely85
2 жыл бұрын
Believe it or not there are still uses in the industrial sector for single and dual core CPUs. Some controllers for industrial machinery won't play well with anything above a dual core CPU. The CNC at my old work had a sandy bridge pentium in it and it only had one core enabled in bios
@PAcifisti
2 жыл бұрын
These are probably not intended for gaming, more likely for light users and for work PC's that don't need to run anything more complicated than browser / excel / Office. It'll do the job just fine for less money.
@Dedubya-
2 жыл бұрын
They'll probably be using failed i3 cpus to make these, that's usually what they do, the celerons are often graded i3 failures, which in turn are probably failed i5 and so on, so you could argue they're doing a good thing by using chips that otherwise would be thrown away. Of course if their production rate is high then they might be disabling perfectly good i3 and i5 cpus to make these crippled celerons.
@yancgc5098
2 жыл бұрын
Dual core CPUs are still ok nowadays, as long as they have an unlocked multiplier, 5Ghz coupled with an AMD GPU would’ve made most games playable on the G6900
@JynxedKoma
2 жыл бұрын
Have to say... Their new heatsinks are GORGEOUS.
@AutodidactEngineer
2 жыл бұрын
The fact that the Celeron stayed under 40°C all the time speaks for it self! To me it looks like a 35watt TDP!
@blob8953
2 жыл бұрын
Nice to see having AVX instructions on a Celeron.
@vincentj1916
2 жыл бұрын
I think the h610 only support single channel, thus the lower single core score
@Nickarus96
2 жыл бұрын
You beat me to this comment! It's a shame Intel put that bottleneck on the memory channels on the basic H610 chipset.
@Lasch24
2 жыл бұрын
Where does this rumor come from that H610 wouldn't support dual channel?
@mariom1674
2 жыл бұрын
@@Lasch24 I believe from Intel's slide they presented at CES
@nix123ism
2 жыл бұрын
No, it supports 1 dimm per channel, it can run in dual channel mode...
@mladendenni7062
2 жыл бұрын
Omg the stutters in Witcher 3 gave me epileptic feeling
@dameister9869
2 жыл бұрын
The Celeron chip has come a long way and performed a lot better than many i3s. If only it was hyperthreaded or included 2 more additional cores.
@santhoshsridhar5887
2 жыл бұрын
Aaand now an i3 is outperforming last gen i5s and 3700Xs in games
@dameister9869
2 жыл бұрын
@@santhoshsridhar5887 of course the current gen i3s obliterate many i5s and i7s as well!
@santhoshsridhar5887
2 жыл бұрын
@@dameister9869 I mean, it is still kind of a surprise that the 12100F beats the 11400F or matches in most games tho. It barely released about 6 months ago.
@crazyguy492
2 жыл бұрын
Great video brother, guess there's a tiny hope for people on the low end budget side of things in an inflated market.
@cosminmilitaru9920
2 жыл бұрын
I think you didn't watch the video, it's a garbage cpu... Don't you have used-market in your country? An 5-to-11 years old i5 is 3x better performing than this crap. Without the freezes and stutters / dips to 0 FPS for seconds that reflects even in browsing.
@clochard4074
2 жыл бұрын
The problem with this is that a fourth generation i5 costs the same and has double the cores 😅
@Sunlight91
2 жыл бұрын
If you avoid the K CPUs you get even more value. My server CPU is a 4570S for £25. In Geekbench it scores 956 single core and 2936 multi core.
@TheSpotify95
2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I'd much rather use my i5-4460 which has 4 cores and 4 threads. :)
@ABaumstumpf
2 жыл бұрын
A 4th gen i5 performs worse, takes way more power, no warranty and a way older platform.
@ThePipojp
2 жыл бұрын
No warranty, less efficient and 4th gen I5 actually perform worse
@MyDystopiaOfficial
2 жыл бұрын
I can't wait for you to test the Pentium G7400 if you get to and if AMD ever releases it, the Renoir-X refresh CPUs.
@rassicr
2 жыл бұрын
Nice.
@titaniummechanism3214
2 жыл бұрын
I chose a Pentium G4560 for my very first gaming PC. It had 2C/4T and was pegged at 100% when I played GTA V on my 1050Ti. I just needed something to get me started and that CPU was just it. I didn't loose much money on it and it served its purpose well until I replaced it with an R5 2600 that is still going strong in my current rig. Back then that was a solid choice, in todays market I'd go with a Ryzen APU instead of the GPU and wait for better prices.
@wertywerrtyson5529
2 жыл бұрын
2 cores without hyperthreading hasn’t been enough for a long time. The 12100F is probably the best budget buy. The Pentium isn’t that much cheaper. They should have scrapped the celeron and sold the Pentium for that price.
@pietrocavicchioli6128
2 жыл бұрын
I mean that celeron for the office task that it was designed to do is a beast
@wertywerrtyson5529
2 жыл бұрын
@@pietrocavicchioli6128 I wouldn’t want a dual thread CPU even for office work. At least when you need to have a lot of programmes and chrome tabs open like at my work. We use quad core skylake CPUs at work and I wouldn’t want anything less than that. And I don’t do anything really demanding.
@pietrocavicchioli6128
2 жыл бұрын
@@wertywerrtyson5529 writing documents, using google, and sending emails doesn't require more than 2 cores, I use a dual core second gen i3 for school stuff, and it's fine.
@wertywerrtyson5529
2 жыл бұрын
@@pietrocavicchioli6128 I use i3 as well for my laptop and my NUC but they have at least 4 threads. But I guess 2 threads is enough for some work. I just wouldn’t want anything less than at least 2 cores with hyperthreading like the Pentium.
@ABaumstumpf
2 жыл бұрын
"2 cores without hyperthreading hasn’t been enough for a long time. " Ah yes, hasn't been enough for so long that... oh, you can play most games, many at 60FPS even... yeah, sooo bad, specially for a CPU that is designed for simple office-stations were even a single core would be more than enough. "At least when you need to have a lot of programmes and chrome tabs open like at my work." Ah, so a 2 core is not enough cause you are running many programs for nothing in the background just to stress the system... suuuurrreee Just as a reminder: It is normal for big software development companies that the programmers are working on small mobile laptops and they have more than enough performance for that, let alone office work.
@matthewprothero2088
2 жыл бұрын
That model number is very Nice.
@KYSMO
2 жыл бұрын
The fact that old CPUs like i7 7700k are being offered for 150USD+ is simply idiotic. I love getting used hardware and saving a few bucks, but unless you can get a used high-end CPU from a few gens back for half of what 90 percent of sellers are asking, you are better off getting a new low end CPU.
@takehirolol5962
2 жыл бұрын
Past Intel i7 owners are the biggest snobs out there...that's why
@frozenturbo8623
2 жыл бұрын
I7 7700k is outperformed by i3 10100f and that's 100 USD..
@noob-ishnoob749
2 жыл бұрын
this is my dream CPU, for real.
2 жыл бұрын
7:18 Weird. Recently, I tested Forza on the LGA775. Unfortunately, the game didn't work, so I checked on a Pentium G620. All settings on the lowest, 720p, and it got around 30-40fps with drops, but it worked.
@obi1dipscobi547
2 жыл бұрын
the i3 10100f is still the budget cpu king here in south africa, it's in stock and has 4c/8t ( it's 3.6 Ghz base and 4.0 boost is also pretty respectable)
@cosminmilitaru9920
2 жыл бұрын
Well in 2017 it was called i7 7700K, so... Then they renamed it properly to i3 in the 10thousand series.
@NikosM112
2 жыл бұрын
a 3rd gen i5 quad core cpu @3.2Ghz/+ from 2012 is better than this
@Superiorer
2 жыл бұрын
5950x also beats this. AMD is better.
@uku000
2 жыл бұрын
Not gonna lie that stock cpu cooler looks sick
@PrzeszczepiX
2 жыл бұрын
This cpu is basically weaker than my 9 year old i3-4160 which you can buy for $10 or something...
@peterpan408
2 жыл бұрын
Also i5 4570 are so plentiful that the i3 41xx are not worth using. However i7 4xxx are not as common unfortunately.
@cosminmilitaru9920
2 жыл бұрын
Exactly.
@Omabatfartsbruh
2 жыл бұрын
this is the most powerful core 2 duo on the market
@Vfl666
2 жыл бұрын
50 bucks for this cpu what a rip-off
@edussantoz9034
2 жыл бұрын
that could be a good cpu if it came with the mother board or costs 15 bucks and mb 40, but prices today are out of rails. 135 bucks just the cpu and mb wtf is this world came to. also will spend a least another 250 for the rest of the build, wihouth a gpu if you ad a gpu the price will double to 700 dolars for a machine that cannot play anyting properly, with this money you could get a ps5 with a fair tv. pc gaming its a rip-off yeah.
@RUFU58
2 жыл бұрын
I’m going to buy the ASUS extreme glacial and slap one of these bad boys in it.
@XeonProductions
2 жыл бұрын
Intel managed to make their cooler look even cheaper.
@RandomGaminginHD
2 жыл бұрын
Opinions are certainly divided but I have to admit I like it 😂
@hunterfowler3559
2 жыл бұрын
@@RandomGaminginHD Yeah I can't lie I think it looks better 😅
@cosminmilitaru9920
2 жыл бұрын
And barely cools a Celeron...
@GaneshMKarhale
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for making video on celeron 12th
@DoomGuy9001-MK4
2 жыл бұрын
Wished Intel would ditch the Celeron and Pentium line up. Just have the I3 has the lowest end chip.
@CapTVchilenaShootingStarMax
2 жыл бұрын
At least they ditched the Atom line, which was even worse than Celeron.
@PAKA62
2 жыл бұрын
The Celeron is perfect for word processing, emails, pdf creation and social network browsing.
@frozenturbo8623
2 жыл бұрын
Celeron and Pentium means alot to Making a budget system and System for work.
@itizjuan
2 жыл бұрын
@@CapTVchilenaShootingStarMax Intel relaunched the Atom series by the way
@DigitalJedi
2 жыл бұрын
@@itizjuan When? I haven't heard anything about this.
@ArakiSatoshi
2 жыл бұрын
I remember the days when Far Cry 4 came out and it was hated by a lot of people with dual core CPUs due to the message showing up on startup telling you that the game requires 4 CPU cores in the system, defusing to run if there's less :)
@MapleMilk
2 жыл бұрын
Intel: "Our single core performance on our 2 Core system is as good as our flagship i9" "Wow! It's still worthless!"
@calvinrohanraj8511
2 жыл бұрын
The era of '2 cores for gaming' is long gone
@gordonshumway888
2 жыл бұрын
Nice review ! I think you should use the ASRock motherboard with BFB feature. Something like ASRock Z690 Pro RS. They are able to give an additional 1 GHz boost to this CPU according to the recent Geekbench test.
@GTheGecko
2 жыл бұрын
Great video as always! BTW you should check out fortnites performance mode instead of dx11. It really helps with the fps, especially on lower end hardware.
@Craigmaul099
2 жыл бұрын
Great video, can't wait for the pentium, AND let's see how the AM5 Athlon brings to the table, pretty hyped for that
@Fractal_blip
2 жыл бұрын
You put yourself through these things so we don't have to. Thank you
@cc-tc9ph
2 жыл бұрын
That was a very beautiful preview👏👏👏
@ThailandDantotherescue
2 жыл бұрын
I love these reviews.. even for super low end stuff I personally wouldn't use... great for browsing the web, email and netflix... great for older retro games.
@cosminmilitaru9920
2 жыл бұрын
Except an 11 year old i5 2500 is amazing and completely functional compared to this garbage... and if your country has a used-market, you can get a full functional PC with that CPU and 8 GB ddr3 at the equivallent of 100 $ or Euro...
@neverletthemtameyou
Жыл бұрын
I love your videos, mate! And from one nerd to another it is cool to see the relative performance of this chip. However, I feel you video would benefit from a clear and concise recommendation. I know that you kind of say what you recommend. But like: If you want to game in 1080p go for XX with XX instead of this piece of XSSS, as many people just don't know. Don't feel bad about the feedback. Just a suggestion for improvement. And by the way, I love the videos where we se YOU as well. Cheers.
@Defy_Convention
2 жыл бұрын
The 12th gen i3 at $130 games almost as well as my i9 9900k from just a few years ago, shocking really, intel has really upped their game
@takehirolol5962
2 жыл бұрын
I was impressed as well on that review from Gamer Nexus. All I game is at 60 FPS, waiting for cheap used Zen 3 chips...
@cosminmilitaru9920
2 жыл бұрын
Imagine how impressed I was when their i3 10100 at 110$ had the same performance as their i7 7700K that was at 450$ ! :D By the way these I mentioned ar the same-chip just re-released 3 years later and renamed and given the correct price...
@thatautogarage3644
2 жыл бұрын
How did I miss your upload yesterday
@Ducky_Lord
2 жыл бұрын
i thought the witcher freezing up is bacause of my laptop acting up again for a moment there
@santisvander
2 жыл бұрын
If intel had enabled HT in this gen Celeron and made the pentium 4 core no HT, we would have the next extreme (but new) budget gaming champions
@ABaumstumpf
2 жыл бұрын
You can have 2p2t 2p4t or 4p4t Sadly no 2/4p CPUs with efficiency-cores.
@DISTX-
2 жыл бұрын
I've had this question for a while now, do you record the commentary while you play the games or post benchmark? Nice video as always!
@itfc88
2 жыл бұрын
Amd needs some budget options like this
@cosminmilitaru9920
2 жыл бұрын
Bullshit. Amd HAS the years older Athlon 200GE and Athlon 3000G for example that are/were cheaper, have 4 threads, and doesn't freeze for seconds and stutter alot like this new piece of garbage does. Amd gave up on Sempron, Intel is still pissing on it's customers mocking them with these dysfunctional Celerons and Pentiums.
@wishusknight3009
2 жыл бұрын
Dang, I was expecting a little better from it. With having 4mb l3 cache and all. But HT really is a needed feature. I would bet that even if it had only 2mb cache that it would still perform better with HT.
@Dennzer1
2 жыл бұрын
🤔
@Hateroz
2 жыл бұрын
Most of these games could use some FPS capping. I think that the Celeron can actually cut it when it come to 30fps gaming on most of these titles.
@arusenpai5957
2 жыл бұрын
This celeron is a must on a machine for core2duo games era :P
@cosminmilitaru9920
2 жыл бұрын
Why not a damn used pc like i5 2500 from 11 years ago that beats the shit out of this CPU in any kind of performance? Without freezing for seconds like this piece of garbage and a lot less stuttering.
@oksowhat
2 жыл бұрын
thanks for informing, i was going to replace my i9 11th gen for this
@agnifauzullah
2 жыл бұрын
wow the performace is surprisingly good for celeron dualcore
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