" Pick up your cross and follow Me" doesn't sound like a standard honeymoon proposition to me. IMO
@MorielTVministries
8 күн бұрын
Absolutely true!
@harrykadish8660
9 күн бұрын
And they don't seem to believe Christians can be deceived either
@Matt24_
9 күн бұрын
Or if they do believe in being deceived, it’s brazen deceit like cults or occult.
@DoloresBartholomew
8 күн бұрын
Amen, Eric.
@kevincheek5976
9 күн бұрын
I like the haircut Jacob
@martinsteiner919
8 күн бұрын
You realize your mocking is no better than those who you say mock those that don't believe in the pre-tribulation rapture. That is not a proper way of teaching. Making someone feel stupid if they do not agree with you is not Biblical teaching.
@wettham715
7 күн бұрын
Who is feeling stupid ?
@martinsteiner919
7 күн бұрын
@@wettham715 when your manner of teaching is mocking and criticism then you are trying to make anyone that does not agree with you feel stupid. I don’t feel stupid, but it’s not a reasonable way to teach Gods word
@israelinprophecy
4 күн бұрын
It is not mocking..show me..was paul mocking correcting and exposing false doctrines???
@truthwatch2858
2 күн бұрын
@@martinsteiner919Romans 16:17-18 Ephesians 5:11
@SufganiyotSecurity88
9 күн бұрын
Thank you so much Davy, Jacob and team for creating and uploading this video! It is much needed!
@Matt24_
9 күн бұрын
The worst offender of changing the meaning of apostasia besides Andy Wood is Lee Brainerd. He quotes out of context, the dependable church fathers like Iranaeus, but gets into the deep grass with pseudo “church father” types to try to prove his points. If you have a copy of Iranaeus works, just look up the references he quotes and you can see for yourselves the way Brainerd takes Iranaeus out of context or snips out portions…it is shameful and as a “teacher” his judgment will be more severe.
@charlvandenheever8878
7 күн бұрын
Thanks Jacob for always putting the TRUTH first.A another demonstration of a sound mind drawing close to God and so resisting devilish false doctrines.
@kevincheek5976
9 күн бұрын
Amen Jacob. We must endure. Whole book of Psalms speaks about enduring
@jjphank
9 күн бұрын
The Same verse that says we will recognize antichrist also shows there’s gonna be a great back sliding and falling away from the faith, 2 Thessalonians 2:1-3
@bonsaipal
9 күн бұрын
Sound teaching, thank you Jacob.
@porshamarshall4658
9 күн бұрын
Thanks Jacob!! It’s so great to have someone talk truth!! Pretrib believers are almost becoming cult like
@cmhanson
9 күн бұрын
@porshamarshall4658 Sounds like you are accusing pre-tribers of the same thing that they are accusing you of (cult like & demonic). Na na na na na nah! The fact is that there is valid scripture to back up both views. No one KNOWS when! Pre-tribers & others are entitled to their view of scripture as anyone else. Personally, I think I will be waving bye to those below when I am on my way UP!
@Matt24_
9 күн бұрын
@@cmhansonSad comment. If someone ignores the Holy Spirit long enough they become hardened to the truth.
@user-yn3nf8lc5h
9 күн бұрын
2Thess 2:10@@Matt24_
@wettham715
7 күн бұрын
Well good luck@cmhanson
@melaniehughes8909
5 күн бұрын
Okay so neither side is a cult. It's a difference of opinion!!! A difference of opinion in what IS GOING TO HAPPEN. Nothing about salvation, we both still believe the Bible. People on both sides are being prideful in their supposed knowledge of God's word. Have enough humility to consider you may not know it all!!
@kevincheek5976
9 күн бұрын
Pre-Trib people I feel like don’t read enough scripture or they are being deceived
@nzbrotrev9028
9 күн бұрын
We read the scriptures as much as you or anyone else , and we have scripture to back up the pre trib view, and no John Nelson Darby did not teach me pre trib.
@theextreme7134
9 күн бұрын
@@nzbrotrev9028 Are you sure you're not twisting scripture to back it up???
@nzbrotrev9028
9 күн бұрын
@theextreme7134 don't need to manipulate scripture, do need a King James Bible as the modern translations have been altered enough remove the pŕe trib rapture .
@michaelklaus3633
9 күн бұрын
@@nzbrotrev9028 No you do not. The scriptures are clear, You take them out of context and you will learn the hard way. 1Co 15:51 Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed, 1Co 15:52 In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed. Scriptures say, THE LAST TRUMP, not the first TRUMP.
@theextreme7134
9 күн бұрын
@@nzbrotrev9028 The KJV is over 400 years old, are you absolutely certain you are understanding the archaic language???
@nzbrotrev9028
9 күн бұрын
As someone that holds to the pre trib view, i have never considered others that have a different opinion as Demonic or cultists
@harrykadish8660
9 күн бұрын
Most that I know are hyper grace , and also the idea that God is too loving and it's out of his character ie. They take an emotional and not a textual opinion by reading it into the text by trying to overlay other stories on top of it and therefore into the text What motivates your view ?
@Matt24_
9 күн бұрын
I’m praising the Lord you found this channel brother.
@jjphank
9 күн бұрын
Also, to be forewarned is to be forearmed. if they’re not ready to go through persecution, they can fall away from their faith and end up in hell as the Bible says Many Will Do! Matthew 24:4-5, 2 Thessalonians 2:3
@Matt24_
9 күн бұрын
@@jjphank The verses you cited do speak of being deceived and misled. Christians can succumb to these pitfalls, but there are way too many Bible verses that show in no way can one lose their salvation. One cannot lose a gift that was procured by Jesus’ precious blood.
@jjphank
9 күн бұрын
@@Matt24_ not true; OSAS Hebrews 6:18. ..It is impossible for god to lie. 3 verses in the Bible say your name can be blotted out of the book of life, for 3 various reasons; Psalm 69:28, revelation 3:5, 22:19! Never receiving Jesus is not the only way to go to hell Says Matthew 7:21-23 ; verse 23 ‘away from me I never knew you’ does not apply to everybody, Jesus says this twice in verses 21 and 22! “Not everyone will say to me (on that day)……., yes many will say…..” If OSAS was true he would’ve said “everyone and all” instead of “not everyone and Many”! So not everyone will go to hell based on never knowing Jesus, and other verses will back this up as well! you can no longer use Matthew 7:23 to say they were never saved to begin with! Same with 2 Peter 2 “after knowing the Lord, they went back into their vomit as a dog; or back into the mud as a pig wallowing in the mud”. The word ‘knowing’ is the same word “knew” in Matthew 7:23, it’s ‘ginosko’ in the Greek- it’s a salvific relationship with Jesus! So you can lose your salvation, says this verse as well! 2 Peter 2:20 “If they have escaped the corruption of the world by knowing our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ and are again entangled in it and are overcome, they are worse off at the end than they were at the beginning!” THEY ARE ENTANGLED IN THE CORRUPTION OF THE WORLD…AGAIN- says this verse! Jude 12 - “twice dead”; Dead in sin, born again, dead again! And there’s many more; Revelation chapters 2 & 3 are full of ultimatums and all Jesus is focused on is our works! Revelation 2: 5 Consider how far you have fallen! Repent and do the things you did at first. If you do not repent, I will come to you and remove your lampstand from its place! Revelation 2:14 there are some among you….. 16 Repent therefore! Otherwise, I will soon come to you and will fight against them with the sword of my mouth. These are just 2 and Jesus says “he who overcomes” , Overcomes is present active- future tense, and Jesus says this to all 7 churches, even the 2 good ones! You have to stay faithful to the end of your life to go to heaven! John 3:16 is he who believes, or continues to believe will have eternal life! it doesn’t say ‘believed’ past tense, you have to maintain your faith to go to heaven! The Greek word ‘believes’ is ‘Pistis’ which basically means faithfulness so faith equals faithfulness, according to the Bible! So if you have problems with this, then you have problems with the word of God, the Bible! You need to study these passages so that you can make it to heaven! If your pastor cannot answer these questions according to what I just said, then you need to leave that church!
@shannondevoy1614
9 күн бұрын
Thanks Jacob my brother from South Africa.
@wettham715
7 күн бұрын
Mine to in nz
@user-jx5dm2ih7g
8 күн бұрын
The bible is clear that the 'rapture' cannot be pre trib as long as one reads all scripture instead of using some verses and ignoring other verses.
@nzbrotrev9028
8 күн бұрын
Depends on which manuscripts your Bible is based on , the Byzantine family manuscripts , or the Alexandrian manuscripts, in the (B) I can show clearly the Church in heaven before the first seal is opened , in the (A) I cant , minor word change's hide this , it seems that the pre trib rapture has been removed from the modern translations.
@scoramg1
9 күн бұрын
Always enjoy the depth of Jacob’s biblical insight and teaching. Guess I would be considered traditional pre trib. Been to many conferences over the years with Jacob on stage. With many teachers he has mentioned. One who has gone to The Lord, was Dave Hunt. I know Jacob holds Dave Hunt in high regard. My issue is not about persecution. We see that ramping up now. I just never understood that the church will definitively be here at the signing of the 7 year peace treaty by Antichrist. Never made sense to me; especially if n light of two passages. First is the relationship of the restrainer that’s taken out of the way in 2Thes 2:4-8 and the church. Secondly, the purpose of the church’s existence through the first 6 seals. Also the 24 elders of Rev. 5 who are redeemed in the throne room of heaven. However, I’ve never took the position I have it figured out, but respect the fact that Jacob has personally stated he’s always read pre wrath view. Finally, if we are to know who the Antichrist is, doesn’t that kind of narrow down the timing to a small window as opposed to Christ coming for His bride maybe tonight? Regardless, Come Lord Jesus!
@Run8nova-f4b
8 күн бұрын
Great Video, thank you
@DoloresBartholomew
6 күн бұрын
Begging God to speak by His Spirit to Calvary Chapel and Beth Ariel, to dismiss the premature rapture motif.
@rojas2428
8 күн бұрын
‘ no one knows the day and the hour ‘ , but we will know surely the Month and the Year , when the time comes !!
@israelinprophecy
4 күн бұрын
Spot on!
@loremaster234
9 күн бұрын
I find it despicable that the dead in Christ are being seen as the backsliders. Jesus didn’t say He would raise up lukewarm Christian’s but would spit them out! This is a lie from Hell! Edit: Those He will spit out were not believers to begin with. I have “backslidden” in the sense that I have had seasons of sin and doubt, but it is Christ through the Holy Spirit that convicts me and leads me to His word and to Himself. He does this for ALL His children. Those who turn from the faith and refuse to repent were never saved because they are not convicted of their sin by the Holy Spirit in a way that produces repentance and faith. If you are struggling, you are not alone. Christ WILL finish the work in you that HE began. Trust in Him and rest dear Brethren.
@beholdheiscomingonthecloud5526
8 күн бұрын
Scripture refutes what you just spoke: 4 For it is impossible for those who were once enlightened, and have tasted the heavenly gift, and have become partakers of the Holy Spirit, 5 and have tasted the good word of God and the powers of the age to come, 6 if they fall away, to renew them again to repentance, since they crucify again for themselves the Son of God, and put Him to an open shame. Hebrews 6. I encourage you to read the entire chapter. Blessings in JESUS.
@michaelklaus3633
9 күн бұрын
Pre tribulation folks are deceived and will learn the Hard way, through experience. 1Co 15:51 Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed, 1Co 15:52 In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed. THE LAST TRUMP. So either pray and study, ask the Holy Spirit to teach you, or learn the HARD WAY, through experience.
@jjphank
9 күн бұрын
And they can fall away from the faith because they’re not grounded enough to stay faithful. They may say ‘well, that’s not really the mark of the beast because we’re not raptured!’ Isaiah 45:19 do not look for God in times of chaos
@MrJeffreyromain
5 күн бұрын
Harold Rowdon was great. Thanks Jacob
@holyyoly3712
7 күн бұрын
Thank you, brother Jacob for explaining the pre. Trip the Lord bless you. Continue to work in you. By the Holy Spirit, keep telling the truth. God bless
@kevincheek5976
9 күн бұрын
Thank you brother
@ferventheat
9 күн бұрын
My favourite verse of recent is 2 Peter 3v10, in the whole context of both letters from Peter. This describes the *thief in the night* _contemporaneous_ with a fiery judgement. The thief comes to kill steal and destroy! No secret rapture 7 years ahead of the judgement of Jesus in flames.
@cmhanson
9 күн бұрын
@ferventheat Dont quite get the jist of which view you are taking. Regarding the thief in the night...1Thess 5:4 "You brethren are NOT in darkness that the day should overtake you like a thief. The "Day of the Lord" comes like a thief as 2 Peter 3:10 states.
@melaniehughes8909
5 күн бұрын
Wrong on Andy Woods at 9 minutes
@kevincheek5976
9 күн бұрын
Late night stream. Amen
@melaniehughes8909
5 күн бұрын
Ummm you haven't done very good homework. Lot's of accusations without substance. You saying someone else is teaching a certain thing that they are not is lies.
@Anthony-ix3rp
8 күн бұрын
Jacob mentioned the importance of a local church and accountability. Is Jacob in a local church with a Pastor to account too ? I feel the Local church is prescribed as an essential in the Bible.
@lillypond1061
6 күн бұрын
I have been in many local churchs, I have learnt nothing just 'holy huddles' with pastors who couldn't get a job elsewhere, that stick to a pattern and do not evangelize as priority. Going to a church doesn't give you accountability, we have the Holy Spirit to do that. I wished years ago I concentrated on family. Moriel have taught me everything I know about the bible - good exegesis.
@Anthony-ix3rp
6 күн бұрын
@@lillypond1061 Then throw out much of the New Testament !
@WaitingOnHisReturnJennyBee7220
9 күн бұрын
I didn't know Andy Woods believe that
@WaitingOnHisReturnJennyBee7220
9 күн бұрын
I love your teaching although I'm not convinced on the timing
@ingela_injeela
9 күн бұрын
When I read Matthew 24, which is Jesus' specific instructions to his closest disciples, I see a clear order of events. He says that the great tribulation is triggered by the Abomination of the Antichrist. And Jesus references Daniel, who tells us that the Abomination happens at the Midpoint of the last seven years. Jesus also connects the in-gathering of the saints to His visible return. So with Matthew 24 as a key teaching of Jesus, I conclude that the rapture/resurrection (the episunagógé) happens *post* tribulation, and *pre* wrath.
@1man2love
9 күн бұрын
@@ingela_injeela Ingela is absolutely correct. Trigger events such as the abomination of desolation will happen in the middle of 70th week of Daniel. This major event (abomination of desolation) triggers the Great tribulation and also identifies the Antichrist. Again, This prophesied event (abomination of desolation) will be in the middle of the final 7 years. The first three and a half years are not technically Tribulation.
@jackmcguigan7174
9 күн бұрын
@@ingela_injeela Dan. 9:27 says firm covenant starts the tribulation not the abomination.
@ingela_injeela
9 күн бұрын
@@jackmcguigan7174 Yes, Daniel says that "he will confirm a covenant with the many for one week".But does the verse speak (like you say) about the great tribulation? No. Daniel says "but in the *MIDDLE* of the week, he will put a stop to sacrifice..." It is Jesus who mentions "great tribulation" in connection with Daniel. So the tribulation does not start at the covenant, but is triggered by the Abomination that happens at the Midpoint, just like Jesus says in Matthew 24. "Therefore when YOU SEE the ABOMINATION of DESOLATION which was spoken of through Daniel the prophet, standing in the holy place-let the reader understand- [then...] ...For THEN there will be a GREAT TRIBULATION. - When? - At the midpoint.
@Anthony-ix3rp
8 күн бұрын
@@ingela_injeela there is tribulation then great tribulation when antichrist starts to panic and goes all out like you do in a race, go harder at the end.
@harrykadish8660
9 күн бұрын
It would seem hyper grace people like pretrib stance
@nzbrotrev9028
9 күн бұрын
No 👎
@perry900
8 күн бұрын
Perhaps were in the little season. Jesus said the generation he was talking to would see his second coming. Not one so called 2000 years later. Do not seal up the book because the time is near. Do we not live in a time of total deception. Yes I love Jesus. Just reading his word.
@danferguson7593
9 күн бұрын
Has anyone read anything by Hilton Sutton ..?? Does anyone know anything about this author…?? 36:35
@CC..Jeremiah9_24
7 күн бұрын
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@cmhanson
9 күн бұрын
In my understanding...the 70th (7 years) week of Daniel is the "Great Trib" "Time of Jacob's Trouble" & all about the Jews. It does not say time of Jacob's & the church's trouble. The Bible is clear that God will pick up with His plan for the Jews where He left off 2,000 yrs ago before the start of the church.
@jare3845
9 күн бұрын
If you are correct that would imply tha God can't work with Israel because the church is still here. Then 1948 wasn't prophetic. 2 thesalonians 2 says that the church will be here to recognize the antichrist. Therefore the apostle Paul taught that we will also see and live through a portion of that 70th prophetic week, tribulation and great tribulation. We, the church will rapture right before the wrath between the 6th and 7th seal....
@ingela_injeela
9 күн бұрын
@@cmhanson Jesus makes clear in Matthew 24 that the great tribulation is triggered by the Abomination of Desolation. And Daniel says that this happens at the *Midpoint* of the seven years. So, after 3.5 years. Which means no "seven year tribulation". And as for Israel and the Church - hasn't God always worked simultaneously with both? Revelation describes how the Dragon first goes after the Woman - Israel. Then he turns and goes after *her other children* who keep the testimony of Jesus. Doesn't this sound like *both* Israel *and* the Church? "And lo, I am *with you* even to *the End of the age* !"
@twoyoutoob
8 күн бұрын
@@jare3845Where on the 7 year timeline do you personally see the 6th and 7th seal taking place ?
@scoramg1
8 күн бұрын
@@ingela_injeela That’s not the church in Rev. 12, if that is your reference. This is an odd time for the church and Israel to work together. This would be in conflict with the 144000 Jews that are sealed. Doesn’t make sense. IMO
@ingela_injeela
8 күн бұрын
@@scoramg1 So God *cannot* deal with Israel and the Church simultaneously? I cannot find this in the Bible, but recognize it from Pre Trib teaching, that claims it is ALL about Israel in the end, because "the Church wont even be here"? But in Revelation 12 we are told: "So the dragon was enraged with the woman, and went off to make war with *the rest of her children* , who keep the commandments of God and *hold to the testimony of Jesus* ." What "other children" does Israel have - that hold to the testimony of Jesus? Aren't we, by faith, also the children of Abraham? Aren't we all grafted into the olive tree? When it says "the accuser of our *brothers and sisters* has been thrown down, the one who accuses them before our God day and night. And *they overcame* him because of the *blood of the Lamb* and because of the word of *their testimony* , and they *did not love their life* even when faced with death." Who are these precious brothers and sisters, if not the Church?
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