As someone whose garage is mostly Rogue stuff…. I am happy and sad at the same time. Happy because Rogue now acknowledges they have a “competition” - this is a win for the consumers. Sad because this is TOO LATE!! I bought a separate cable machine and lat pull down machine - ain’t no way I am selling and move things around. Would love to have all in one Rogue rack/ cable - but too much effort to sync in with this late innovation.
@djcashwell
6 ай бұрын
same here, too invested with both: rack and pulldown
@outtrigger
6 ай бұрын
why do you care about Rogue or any fitness company. you giys treat them like football teams i swear
@stark5353
6 ай бұрын
@@outtrigger to answer your question, rogue makes stuff in the USA. I'm loyal to the American worker, and if I could get USA made stuff from others, I wouldn't care but rogue it is for now.
@outtrigger
6 ай бұрын
@@stark5353 all the steel they use is probably made in china anyway, along with the machinery they use to build the stuff
@stark5353
6 ай бұрын
@@outtrigger they specifically said that they source steel from USA steel mills (so does Prx actually). As for the tooling, you might be right, I have no way of knowing that.
@OfficialLeverKing
6 ай бұрын
Bells of Steel just did a single stack all in one trainer that does everything with the same ratios as this and it is a quarter of the price
@TheX777X
6 ай бұрын
That's true but rogue is rogue bells of steel is ok
@OfficialLeverKing
6 ай бұрын
@@TheX777X Unless you’re either really disrespectful to your equipment, or you’re a juiced up monster moving crazy weight, there is no justification for spending 4 times as much on an item like that. It’s a good product made in the USA, but is it worth literally thousands of dollars more to do the same thing?
@TheX777X
6 ай бұрын
@OfficialLeverKing no justification if you have the money to spend why not? Rogue is the best haha and If saying that is being disrespectful to equipment then I'm a fucking asshole lol
@gunsmokezz
6 ай бұрын
@@OfficialLeverKing you can go to work in a Toyota Corolla or a Porsche gt3. They both get you there.
@OfficialLeverKing
6 ай бұрын
@@gunsmokezz I can’t argue that logic. That’s why I don’t drive a fancy car and just drive the one that works. No need to spend extra money
@raven-19x
6 ай бұрын
A drop-in Rhino with this and Athena-like selectors for the FT part would be sick.
@psurphr
6 ай бұрын
For me and my low ceiling garage, the REP wins with the 80” height. The 90+” that Rogue sells would not allow me to open the garage door.
@trollzone1
6 ай бұрын
I have a 93 inch rep ares and need the extra height because of my size. My only change to the ares is I would like rollers on the trollies
@forrestchandler6836
6 ай бұрын
The 2:1 and 1:1 "magic" is also how the Prime Prodigy stacks work. Each stack is 1:1 on the lat pull, and 2:1 on the pulley. Or you can go 2:1 on the lat pull, and 4:1 on the pulley. You're the one who showed us that years ago lol!
@tristanwiebe151
6 ай бұрын
I've been getting back into working out again, and with limited space I've been looking at the REP but this gives me pause and I want to wait and see if ROGUE pulls this off! Lots of promise for sure!
@Pmdm80
6 ай бұрын
I hope with all my heart that Rogue get your feedback, that's an awesome review that at the end makes it better for the consumer! KUDOS for the great work!
@fwiffo42
6 ай бұрын
One thing Rogue doesn’t list on their site is the length of cable travel when using both functional trainer handles at the same time. Unless they redefined physics, I’m predicting 76” of travel with one arm and 38” of travel when using both for a 90” height rack. For a 108” rack it would move up to 94” of travel for one arm and 47” when using both. This could be a big trade off depending on what movements you want to do off the front.
@steverapos3904
6 ай бұрын
Agreed. As well, with one stack the cabling will involve more pullies, including floating pullies and likely won't be quite as smooth. They should have used aluminum pullies here
@GarageGymReviews
6 ай бұрын
Great point. Curious on this as well. Could really handicap the whole system. - Coop
@ReyEscajeda
6 ай бұрын
We haven’t seen Coop this jazzed up and jonesing to get his hands on a new product for a looong time. Love Rogue’s innovation, build quality, overbuilt stability and made by American workers.
@zeptrey82
6 ай бұрын
Isn't the Bells of Steel All in one Trainer already available and has a 1:1 lat pulldown/low row and 2:1 for the functional trainer pulleys?
@richardulin7535
6 ай бұрын
Yep, lighter stack, but very inexpensive. Same concept
@Spp235.
6 ай бұрын
What’s wrong with BoS? I went to their showroom in Toronto and was impressed. I don’t like the fact that they are essentially producing in China though to get the prices as low as possible.
@richardulin7535
6 ай бұрын
Nothing wrong with it at all, they have great customer service as well
@timk8258
6 ай бұрын
Yes, nothing innovative with that cable setup.
@timl6450
6 ай бұрын
Good to see Rogue doing this. I’ve been feeling like home gyms are such a small piece of Rogue’s business that it was affecting the versatility of their rack ecosystem for home use. If they do this right, they’ll have taken a big step toward closing the gap that Rep has opened up on the home front. Now we need both companies to figure out ways to seamlessly integrate their stacks with accessories like lever arms, rack mounted leg extensions/curls, a good belt squat (not the one rep currently sells), and even weighted (or assisted) dips.
@Travis_24
6 ай бұрын
Need to review the wall mounted Athena next
@esivs3
6 ай бұрын
yes this is what i'm looking for as well!
@marktechsci
6 ай бұрын
Love your stuff Coop! You need to school yourself on Delrin and UHMW as they are important in gym equipment and can be expensive so understanding the different plastics, their costs and benefits is important to your viewers. 😊
@TheComputerCowboy
6 ай бұрын
I’m stoked. Will absolutely be dropping some g’s on this
@meisdetermined
6 ай бұрын
That tells me Rep hurt Rogue bad. It would not surprise me if Rogue saw a drop of 30 to 50% in their rack sales. People want to know that everything is going to work instead of trying to Frankenstein their Rack with multiple companies parts. Rogue has some work to do if they’re gonna pull ahead. I have said this before, but I think combining weight horns above weight stacks is smart, because it allows people to drop set easily, but can also go above a certain weight. Band pegs goes without mentioning. That should be a must on ANY weight stack in the future.
@douglowry7382
6 ай бұрын
Well about 1.5 yrs too late. I love rogue but went Rep for my new rack last yr because I wanted a simple lat pulldown option, future upgrades, and supporting a company that is clearly innovating and providing great value.
@douglowry7382
6 ай бұрын
@@Pler1978 give me a warning next time. About spit out my coffee at that joke.
@richardulin7535
6 ай бұрын
Bells of Steel all in one trainer with the weight stack is doing the same thing with 1:1 on middle pulleys, and 2:1 on side pulleys! They only have a 210lb stack however. But, it's also only $1500 and a 2x2 rack.
@theunknownsamurai7426
6 ай бұрын
Just commented the same thing. I'm considering buying it. Did you see the new Dreadmill?
@richardulin7535
6 ай бұрын
Dreadmill looks badass, a little pricey for me but very cool! I am also considering buying the all in one trainer though. Between that and just going all out on a Rep Athena build.@@theunknownsamurai7426
@Stayafloat4869
6 ай бұрын
@@Oli-Ravioliwhy do you say it's an average rack? I'm considering getting one.
@EvanZamir
6 ай бұрын
Why is the half rack more expensive than the full rack? Would love to see a Smith machine add-on.
@JoshuaDinoMartin
3 ай бұрын
I believe Rogue listened to the comments in this video. They offer the option to use Aluminum or Polymer wheels, and give you the option for Shrouds or no shrouds. Lol good on them for listening to their base!
@FoxStrength_Performance
6 ай бұрын
The rhino is such a well built piece. You would think they would have been able to build off of that at this point. The difficulties of this setup are very apparent. I love having the Ares, but also understand the issues. I’m excited to see what Rogue comes up with
@EyesackWorley
6 ай бұрын
I was at the arnold and tried it. Feels commercial, very high quality as usual. There was also a wall mount on it. Definitely way too expensive to outclass the athena and I think the additional customization on the ares makes it a worse option, not to mention only 1 stack. Really no reason to buy it unless youre deep into the monster accessories already
@Kparris7
6 ай бұрын
It's not complicated, the cable from the stack goes directly to both the low and high pulls, but for the functional trainer that has another pulley that just pulls on the line, which cuts the load in half. Something like, _____ connects to pulley-> | | pulley on low row line -> O | | | * func trainer | | to stack*__| |__*low row
@tylerwilson6706
6 ай бұрын
I'd love to see a review on the Titan Nemesis. Their website says its in stock but I haven't seen any reviews.
@firstfloor5347
6 ай бұрын
I think rep is still a better option, if ur keen on US made, get the prime prodigy
@GarageGymReviews
6 ай бұрын
We'll see when we get it in house and compare. On paper, I'd probably agree with you. Glad to see more options though! - Coop
@avinashtyagi2
6 ай бұрын
@@GarageGymReviews Max weight on Ares is 450 per stack and for less money, really the only reason to buy Rogue is if you're adamant in owning Manufactured in America products
@barsknos
6 ай бұрын
I have a rack that has 1:2 on the variable and 1:1 on the overhead on both sides (OEM via China) so it can't be too hard.
@markhalstead2386
6 ай бұрын
Just found out from Rogue that the weight is divided by 4 if using both front pulleys for cable cross chest type exercises. If selecting 100 pounds, it will be 50 on one side, but feel like 25 if you use both front pulleys. This is why I like Ares 2.0 better.
@jasonbrowncoaching
4 ай бұрын
I just sold my free motion (single stack) and going to sell my RM3 rack to get this, but now after seeing this I’m not sure. Maybe wait until they drop the rhino in there.
@g.alexander2424
6 ай бұрын
Coop, the lat.pulldown being "too close" in your review looks like the bar is in a storage position. There's a hook that holds it high in storage. When it's off the hook, it hangs further away.
@ECUpunk
6 ай бұрын
My Surplus strength UPS has served me well but it looks like I’ll be upgrading if this ends up being the real deal. I would love a weight stack for lat pull downs/low rows and the FT is a sweet plus but I also love my belt squats on the Rhino. I’m holding out to see what Rogue ends up releasing as well as the eventual reviews from the community but I’m glad I held out so I’ll be able to keep my Rogue ecosystem intact.
@johnfalco4169
5 ай бұрын
That's some pretty serious competition. Does rep Plan to come out with a plate loaded option? If they do I would probably get the rep because I liked what they've done with their build.
@breezy3107
2 ай бұрын
Biggest question I have is regarding the 2:1 ratio on the SINGLE stack Rogue FM for the functional trainer aspect of the machine. If someone is doing a unilateral movement on the functional trainer handles it's my understanding that it will feel like half of the weight stack, but if both sides of the functional trainer at once on a single stack, will the weight on each extremity "feel like" 1/4 of the stack weight. For example, if stack is set to 100# , if I'm using only one of the functional trainer handles then I presume it will feel like 50#. However, if the handles are being used simultaneously (ie chest flies) then the shared "feels like" weight would be 25# on each arm? Anyone able to speak to this with certainty?
@KyleDotson_VFL
6 ай бұрын
Are they going to come out with a bench for the lat pulldowns that integrates into this?
@seanmcpherson7962
6 ай бұрын
What do you mean 2nd to market? Bodycraft rft? Inspire SCS?orFT2? Jacked Up Power Rack Pro? Force X or G series? Just wish one of them would raise the low row up! Would libe to hear a rebiew of the jacked Up and Bodycraft combos.Is there a reason you havent reviewed either? I guess ill qait. Bit longer before buying a combo Rack/FT/Lat pull dn and low row.(smiths is nice but not necesary, ill take it if i have to). I Enjoy your reviews. I hope to see other brand reviews in the future.
@markhalstead2386
6 ай бұрын
I know with personal rescue, one pulley is 1:1 and if you use two pulleys to change direction, you get 2:1.
@rogue91197
6 ай бұрын
@GarageGymReviews Rogue has changed the copy on their site to reference "optional shrouds" so it looks like they are listening.
@franc102
6 ай бұрын
Someone needs to explain the pricing. This would be equivalent to the Rep Ares, which if you pay for the weight stack upgrade it would come with 2 different weight stacks that each weigh 310 lbs each (total 620 lbs). The price of that unit (without the rack) would be $3100 shipped. The add on option for rogue (without the rack) comes with a single 300 lb stack and costs $3500 + shipping. So basically rogue wants to charge an extra $1000 (once you factor in shipping) for a functionally equivalent unit from Rep, despite not having to ship an extra 300 lbs in weight? Their unit better have some pretty substantial engineering to explain that difference in cost. I would say this is a hard pass unless you are worried about exceeding the weight limit for you floor joists.
@Fit4MeHealthCoaching
6 ай бұрын
If I read correctly, they are going to offer free shipping
@franc102
6 ай бұрын
It is still $400 more and substantially less to ship. You would think that the engineering to make it a 1:1 ratio would decrease the production and shipping costs so they could compete with REP in regards to price and should be less expensive.
@raven-19x
6 ай бұрын
It’s just the Rogue name brand tax. Simple as that.
@KetchyKech
Ай бұрын
dont see an option for stringers on the website for the half rack :( wonder if you can request it via special order
@CVNTGETENOUGH
6 ай бұрын
Been waiting for this for almost 5 years. I think even Titan Fitness had something like 5 years ago
@giannipastore7963
6 ай бұрын
My ATX Functional Trainer corner system with 2:1 ratio on cables and 1:1 ratio on lat/low with just one weight stack
@bobbyhunt3009
6 ай бұрын
Look at the ER Kang functional trainer. It's wuality is not close to REP but the pulley housing at the handles allow you to attach the carabiners together and get 1:1 ratio Only one like that Ive seen
@KIKKAAA685
6 ай бұрын
IT LOOKS GOOD BUT WITH all needed attachment the cost will be like 7000$
@Eee00123
6 ай бұрын
This seems rushed and not well designed. I don't want a single stack. The low row height needs to be raised. And why didn't they integrate the rhino?
@srhyse
6 ай бұрын
On their site it says the rack needs to be bolted to the ground. Hopefully they’ll have some options for people to bolt it to the wall instead, or not bolt it down at all by having some legs coming out in the front or something.
@albertj3421
6 ай бұрын
From what I see I think REP has the crown.
@tonyallen3138
6 ай бұрын
My only hope is that Rogue produces a similar option for the Monster Lite racks. Due to a lot of times Rogue always preferences the Monster line and dismisses the Monster Lite.
@r-d6568
6 ай бұрын
Please for the love of god, offer an 80 inch height for these. Please please please!
@eurobilt
6 ай бұрын
Pulley system (movement) is reminiscent of the Marcy Pro smith/functional trainer.
@Cd11998
6 ай бұрын
Now we need them to start integrating free motion cables systems through jammer arms.
@Cd11998
6 ай бұрын
Rep answering back quick with max aracadia
@macmovieman1
4 ай бұрын
I have had my Rogue rack for about 4 years now and have been trying/wanting to move to a functional trainer and glad I waited. I will be selling my rogue rack and buying the new Rep Fitness functional trainer. I have limited space and they are killing it now. Would like to have got the Rogue but this looks outdated compared to the new Rep functional trainer.
@onecreative1
6 ай бұрын
Completely agree with you regarding the pull-down bar rubbing the uprights and the low row being too low. I'm not sure there is much of a noticeable difference between the aluminum and plastic pullies, but I'll take your word for it that the aluminum is a smoother pull. In that case, the option to purchase the upgrade would be nice. The Rhino integration is fantastic and a smart move on their part! The option to anchor it to the wall for additional stability is also very nice.
@rpc2112
2 ай бұрын
The pull down bar is resting in its cradle in the vid. When you pull it off of there, there’s plenty of room. It’s a non-issue.
@eddominguez699
4 ай бұрын
Just seen they are also going to release the fm-6 twin functional trainer dual stack
@FlashGamer521
6 ай бұрын
You mentioned that they use "2:1 pulley which is what you want on a functional trainer". Why is this the case? Brands like Atlantis have been using 4:1 for as long as I can remember, and I never had any problem with them.
@gordo608
6 ай бұрын
If they are integrating the Rhino trolley for a plate loaded version of this, can we please get a stand alone plate loaded lat pulldown/low row from Rogue. Please and thank you.
@Jamesah
5 ай бұрын
I have a bunch of rogue and rep products and although rogue builds quality products, they test the quality by not considering customer feedback on how to properly package their products during shipping. Sometimes all they need is just a little more tape for the foam to surround their product. But instead they don’t use the tape and the product gets chipped. Every rogue product I’ve bought has come damaged due to poor packaging. They always give you a discount but I’d rather a undamaged product.
@Gnoll-1337
6 ай бұрын
I Personally wouldn’t want shrouds because it makes it a pain to use a weight pin for both micro loading and expanding the total weight.
@Pmdm80
4 ай бұрын
@GarageGymReviews there a new functional trainers to be released in june there is one thats pretty similar to the adonis
@greggoodenough5607
6 ай бұрын
it looks like you can still mount a flying pullup bar on this as well
@nealstaten5193
6 ай бұрын
Do you think titan will come out with there own version of a functional trainer as well
@tuckertech
6 ай бұрын
Once they make it monster lite compatibility I would think about it
@jd345050
6 ай бұрын
Will rogue or rep sell the components to add these cable setups to already purchased racks?
@Arkadiosjiujitsu
6 ай бұрын
You gonna do a review on the Prx new limitless ripcord?
@BurnTheGas
6 ай бұрын
The best part of a Rogue release is seeing the REPtiles in crisis mode in the comments section 🍿
@thomasbrown7328
6 ай бұрын
The new gear page of Rogue has been a sad place for months and months and months. Tired of opening that thing and it’s still just the Pritchett pad as first thing always showing up - until this week.
@omoshioine
6 ай бұрын
Coop, I just got the Arcadia. Where am I going to put this?
@chriss6971
6 ай бұрын
Hey coop you seen iron edges new rack that has cables all in one?
@mannymtz45
5 ай бұрын
what's the brand of dumbbells behind you?
@zachvanbeek6
6 ай бұрын
Where did you get those dumbbells behind you?
@craigharrison122
6 ай бұрын
I’m curious about your hat brand 🤔
@ChaosStorm24
6 ай бұрын
If they figure out Rhino with all this, oh boy! My wallet is gonna be light!
@austinmaxson1633
4 ай бұрын
I thought you were waiting on the ROGUE MONSTER RHINO RACK TRAINER - DROP-IN
@ethanevans1905
5 ай бұрын
Would love a hands on review if you can get your hands on one
@JoeCnNd
5 ай бұрын
I think i have the rml 1. How can you tell the difference?
@georgecheliotis418
6 ай бұрын
They're doing it the same way they're doing it with the all in one trainer from bells of steel...
@bitossi2007
6 ай бұрын
Hey Coop tell us about that hat please ?
@michaelryan2605
6 ай бұрын
I get you are a Rogue boy, but really. There are some issues, that even you bring out, that are sub par to other systems. Also, the price is not reflective any anything worth that cost. NOT seeing the value at all.
@vdub1955
6 ай бұрын
= Rogue is just seating back watching lol Rogue is hunter and hit you when let your guard down 😅
@gulostt
6 ай бұрын
Getting som super Mario vibes. That's one beutyfull mustache
@JoeCnNd
5 ай бұрын
My old fitness gear ultimate. has 1:1 low high and 2:1 functional trainer. Just simple cable routing, nothing new.
@shiwakuseven5859
6 ай бұрын
It is too expensive. I can afford to buy one, but I don't see any logical reason why I should since I can already do the exercises I want to do with the exercise equipment that I already have.
@stewartstewartstewart
6 ай бұрын
That moustache is getting out of control 😂
@GarageGymReviews
6 ай бұрын
Next week the entire lower half of my face will be a mustache lol - Coop
@theunknownsamurai7426
6 ай бұрын
Bells of steel just release a functional trainer with 2:1 and 1:1
@bobbyhunt3009
6 ай бұрын
This thing is not even close to the REP Ares system. If Rogue had the Ares and REP came out with this, Coop would laugh in REP's face about this ( 1 weight stack, nylon pulleys, ugly shrouds, double the price of REP's signature cable set up, lat pulldown arm is a joke,) Buy REP ARES people, this is gonna be less product and double the price.
@MetalsForBrunch
6 ай бұрын
rep is overpriced for China made. You clearly don't own any rogue products to see the difference between the two.
@bobbyhunt3009
6 ай бұрын
@@MetalsForBrunch You are correct, I don't buy Rogue. Like you said REP is overpriced and I agree with you but Rogue just price gouges by using their name. Mostly, Rogue's finishes and welds are cleaner, and their products look higher quality I agree but not to the prices they charge,,look at Eleiko,,same thing but they must have enough Swedes supporting them because I dont think hardly any Americans buy anything Eleiko PS: I do have 2 pairs of Rogue USA Aluminum Collars and 2 pair of their wrist wraps
@MetalsForBrunch
6 ай бұрын
@@bobbyhunt3009 I own both rep and rogue rack, bench and machines. I dont care for brand but from my 4 years of use, rogue is a step up in quality over rep.
@aursecus
6 ай бұрын
Does anyone know what brand the dip bars are at 4:24 ?
@sergiojasso4799
6 ай бұрын
If I’m not mistaken, those are REP dip attachments, I recommend the mutant metals ultimate dip attachment 👍🏾
@GarageGymReviews
6 ай бұрын
They're custom from Dean at Black Widow Training Gear. Good dude. Good equipment. - Coop
@HardEarnedBacon
6 ай бұрын
Overdue
@alivideo403
6 ай бұрын
Rogue is a little too late. Made in America is good but not at a much higher cost than REP fitness. I have invested in REP Athena. And bought a used Lat machine with a 300 lb weight stack.
@DKQuinoa
6 ай бұрын
lol no way the competition makes Rogue lower their prices.
@AM-dd6gk
6 ай бұрын
There is no need for all of this nonsense. But two plate loaded cable towers from Bells of Steel. But the back upright attachment and a weight plate horn (for stability) for each tower, then bam, you are set. I have this set up in my garage and I am in love with it. Was just a little over a grand to get it.
@cameronharris2862
3 ай бұрын
they made this thing $4800 within 3 months of this video??
@MrBdiddyp63
6 ай бұрын
Being two years late, adding no real innovation, plastic pulleys, and one stack. This is a big L other than for the only-Made-in-the-USA folks.
@raven-19x
6 ай бұрын
Even for the made in Merica folks, the Prime Prodigy HLP is better (but shipping kills it).
@fdfd2857
6 ай бұрын
BowFlex files bankruptcy!!!
@trollzone1
6 ай бұрын
Only 150 lbs to the trollies is so lame. Also costs the same.
@thesirdiesalot6653
6 ай бұрын
4000$ = instantly no longer interested
@classiciron
6 ай бұрын
Overbuilt and OVER PRICED.
@turdrhinofiend
6 ай бұрын
it doesn't integrate well with rhino... disappointing.
@djcashwell
6 ай бұрын
the pulldown bar looks to be in a clip, so i think it's folded inward for storage...the pulley looks like it might have a little more clearance for actual usage.. wish they started with this couple years ago
@KingCompton
6 ай бұрын
i feel like the lat pulldown is so close in this display; so nobody hits their head when they’re walking by since people will be walking around it all day at The Arnold etc
@g.alexander2424
6 ай бұрын
@@KingCompton no. They have an integrated storage that holds it higher. Not just for the Arnold. For everyone. You don't have to detach it.
@patrickmurray1246
6 ай бұрын
The shrouds around the cable parts are optional per the description on rogue website. That’s a good choice to be able to skip the shrouds.
@bazintrickways3045
6 ай бұрын
I just got the drop in rhino, I’m just hoping they don’t make rhino 2.0 and instead make a way to turn the existing rhino into a pulley system.
@jasongoodman4959
6 ай бұрын
Great video! Really interested to see how Rogue executes on this, given how far they've fallen behind Rep so quickly. I bought my rack in 2020. At the time, Rogue felt like the more serious choice, but now I advise all my friends to go with Rep, and the Ares / Athena are part of why. Coop, I'd love to see your review of the Dialed Motion Ibex and Sidewinder Systems. Gluck's review of them was positively glowing, and they seem like they could be a great option for Rogue owners to add a functional trainer to their racks, but I'm curious for your take as well!
@maximumsoftness7469
6 ай бұрын
I'm already barbells deep into the REP ecosystem. Too little too late here with rogue.
@Dan-su7bp
6 ай бұрын
Well competition is always good. Rep will have to compete and you can buy that competing product so we all win.
@razgriz8675
6 ай бұрын
I wholly agree and I’m in the REP ecosystem already too. But this is good for all the new customers and everybody going forward to have competition and options.
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