EatSleepDrive it's gonna be good but as you said nothing is gonna live up to those shoes the mk4 left Ps. Love your vids
@BrawlFreak786
6 жыл бұрын
EatSleepDrive pooprah no manual
@swanblake
6 жыл бұрын
No manual, no care
@SuperbMoves
6 жыл бұрын
Hopefully it looks better than the R35 Gtr
@jamesbaker1392
6 жыл бұрын
I still find it funny how 90 percent of the haters never even have owned an A80 Supra. They are completely basing the Supra on seeing built supras with 1000 horsepower thinking that's just how they are lmao. They also would never consider an A70 Supra because they aren't iconic or as popular. They are just wannabe dreamers hating on the new A90 because it's "not like it was on gran turismo when I was a kid!1!1!1" But I digress, I'll end the rant with saying, at least wait until the damn thing hits showrooms and THEN hate on it if it really is shitty.
@NissanSkyline901
6 жыл бұрын
Toyota is out here trying to focus on handling and driving experience, which is what a lot of people have said they miss in cars, and then people complain that it doesn't have enough power. The same thing happened with the GT86 in that Toyota gave people a great FR platform to work off of, which is exactly what a lot of people said they wanted, and then people complained about power and features. I think the same could be said about the new Supra. People seem to be comparing a modded MKIV Supra to the figures of the new one in stock form. If the people want a MKIV Supra, they should just go buy one. Once the new one is released, and the aftermarket support follows, I think you'll still have people complaining that it's not the MKIV Supra, but you will also have people who will begin to see the potential. I'm starting to think a lot people in the car community just don't know what they want, because it's always either too much power and not enough focus on handling and driving experience, or not enough power with a focus on handling and driving experience. I personally think the horsepower wars that have been happening have done harm in the way of driving experience, because manufacturers tend to focus more on track times than creating a car that is enjoyable to drive with usable power.
@zues287
6 жыл бұрын
The ZL1 1LE completely nullifies your entire argument...
@jeffk464
6 жыл бұрын
I agree, its the M2 and cayman concept. You can build way too much performance into a sports car.
@NissanSkyline901
6 жыл бұрын
Corey Rogers- I'm not saying there aren't exceptions in that there are cars that balance it better, but those exceptions are usually cars purpose built for tracks. Even with the ZL1 1LE, you'll rarely ever be able to use the full potential of the car unless you are on a track, and even then you'll likely have to have a good amount of driving experience before you can use it. And as a street car, I can assume it would not be the most enjoyable car to drive. I guess my point is that higher horsepower figures seem to be the precedent with most modern sports cars (not purpose built track cars) at this point, and if the horsepower figures aren't 500+, people seem to think it's not enough. Things like power to weight ratio, or how the weight is distributed, don't seem to be taken into account as much, and it's just how much HP the car has. I actually love the steps forward that American car companies are taking to try and create sports cars that are more balanced, but there is still no denying that most of their performance cars still focus on power over weight. As far as the new Supra, I feel like Toyota knows people will modify them, and they are just creating a solid base platform that will still be enjoyable to drive in stock form for those that don't want to modify them. Like I mentioned previously, that is what they did with the GT86.
@doctorlarry2273
6 жыл бұрын
Hard to say. I have tracked my MKIV turbo for about 15 years and was looking the past couple of years to get an FR-S or BRZ to turn into a track car. I found that it would just take too much to get it where I would like to be on the track. Even with the good handling, you need to replace a number of stock items and then do something to get an additional 75-150 hp. I drove quite a few and decided against the FRS.
@Bad_1nfluence
6 жыл бұрын
I completely agree with you sir
@murdergorilla4087
6 жыл бұрын
Should have named it a bmw z4 and left it at that.
@JustAnotherKyd
6 жыл бұрын
owen allen Toyota Zed4
@Oemg35
6 жыл бұрын
I agree with your point of how the nsx and this upcoming supra wont live up to it name but people forget that their was a lot of hate when the r35 gtr came out because it didn't have a manual was to heavy and was driven by computers etc and now people love them just give them time
@tommynobaka
6 жыл бұрын
Y'all act like the supra was cheap and fast when new lol, it was ok. It wasnt until tuners started messing with them that they realized the potential. Toyota has made the new supra 2JZ swap friendly.
@doctorlarry2273
6 жыл бұрын
The MKIV was the fastest in it's class when it came out. 320 bhp was a lot back in 1993.5. No it was not "cheap" - the shift in the yen/dollar ratio between design and production raised the dollar price from about $30K USD to about $45K USD.
@tommynobaka
6 жыл бұрын
+DoctorLarry adjusted for inflation, around $60k in today's money
@flowersnaught9380
6 жыл бұрын
I wish i had funds to build a 2JZ on the side while waiting for it.
@Sam-gj3xg
6 жыл бұрын
I really hope they put the s55 engine in it since the M2 competition has it too and is proven to be tuned to higher power
@Death666wish
6 жыл бұрын
It won't be a B58, it has been confirmed it will have an iron block, Toyota wanted an engine that can handle a lot of power with a stock bottom end, they have been testing one with 700+ hp, I don't know if it's to the wheels or at the crank but either way it was one of their goals, it still is a BMW engine though. People are a bit thick, they see a bunch of 1000whp Supras online and think that this new car isn't a Supra if it's not like 800+ hp from factory or something. When for a matter of fact, stock for stock, the MKV would smack the MKIV all day every day. I just hope they make a manual though.
@thecake6635
6 жыл бұрын
Tada says they'll add MT later on due to high demand
@hondacar
6 жыл бұрын
I don't think Toyota could've asked for a better partner than BMW to release the modern version of the Supra.T he new Supra will be focused on handling and a great driving experience, not outright power. If not a BMW engine then what other engines, straight six or not, would've been both adequately powerful and affordable?
@ilmjcxj8064
6 жыл бұрын
I agree with you that they should've named it something else.
@JustAnotherKyd
6 жыл бұрын
ilmjcxj like... The Celica Plus? Lol
@toxicmongoose7061
6 жыл бұрын
I was considering purchasing a Supra but the no manual was a no no. Also, the better comparison car, to me being the Z cars, will most likely be 20k cheaper. After deciding that, I went ahead and picked up a new Rx7 FD3S build that I have started on my channel. I will "settle" for building on of my dream cars! lol
@Jaime7188
6 жыл бұрын
Exactly the reason why I won't be trading in my FRS for the supra. Manual or nothing
@Ryanspashai
6 жыл бұрын
Preach
@moneyblade5
6 жыл бұрын
Excited as well. If the 4cylinder option has the manual. That’d be the one to get! I’ll be surprised if Toyota sells the I-6 version for $60k. The mk4 Supra turbo was a huge flop sales wise. I think it was almost $50k back in the 90s. Adjust for inflation it doesn’t make sense why they’d try it again at that price.
@saint8257
6 жыл бұрын
moneyblade5 if it's too cheap, it's gonna compete with their gt86
@SteveOnlin
6 жыл бұрын
it will be just like the a80 no one cared about it until they knew it potential and when it stops selling they would ask for another generation
@pj9375
6 жыл бұрын
Nice 240sx. What are these worth in the states? Personally I'd keep it over the new supra... Much more character...and lighter. Oh and the supra isn't a manual too. Deal breaker...
@THEALKYL
6 жыл бұрын
BMW and JDM is a great mixture. Just think of the high power BP engine Miata builds that combine a build Mazda engine with an E46 BMW 3 series transmission using adapter plates. Or the K-swapped cars doing the same with Honda K-engines and BMW transmissions (KMiata). I hope this car will be a great comercial sucsess, because if it is there will be plenty of aftermarket options to combine the BMW straight six with some manual BMW gearbox in the car in no time. Even if it does not come with a manual option to begin with wich hasn't been confirmed yet. I would never buy a new car anyway, so I have at least 3 to 5 years to observe the aftermarket, save some money, and then decide if it is worth it or not. It will be 74 kg lighter than the original and a lot of people seem to forget that the original only had 162 kW (220 PS) at 5800 min−1 and 294 Nm at 4800 min−1 with the 2JZ-GE and 243 kW (330 PS) at 5600 min−1 with 441 Nm bei 4800 min−1 with the 2JZ-GTE. The BMW engine in the new one is said to have up to 450 PS from the factory, so it all comes down to modability. Edit: according to Road and Track Magazin the engine for the 6 Zylinder option could be BMW's single-turbo 3.0-liter B58B30 unit and there is a 6-speed manual for that, for example in the M240i. Maybe more high end versions could include the N55B30 unit that even comes with twin turbos, 410 PS and a 6-speed in the BMW M2 Competion that is launched this month.
@oesoy
6 жыл бұрын
Will you take Tada-sans reco and buy the 4cyl and swap it out with a manual 2JZ?
@EatSleepDrive
6 жыл бұрын
Down the road for sure, but I'm not buying a $50/60k car and tearing it apart immediately. I don't have that kind of money haha. Love the idea though.
@trustgtr33
6 жыл бұрын
mounts probably more bmw than toyota, throwing in a 2jz is not impossible but one heck of a job
@oesoy
6 жыл бұрын
I don't blame yah, so will you be getting the 4cyl then?
@jeffk464
6 жыл бұрын
That would be rather silly. Basically replacing a similar specd turbo 6 for an older turbo 6.
@Death666wish
6 жыл бұрын
You do know that the new Supra will cost a bit more that what a 240 goes for, right?
@trustgtr33
6 жыл бұрын
i think the supra gonna be great, only wished that its all japanese with toyota famous reputation for its thermonuclear bomb proof mechanicals. However I trust toyota wont disappoint and probably bmw would start producing super reliable cars by learning a thing or two as they do make great cars. i reckon most supra fans were expecting it to be gtr killing, mclaren munching car like it was before, but i have to agree that it would be too expensive and people wont buy them.
@MrSpartan117fan
6 жыл бұрын
The fuck you talking about .. You on drugs ?
@TheBishop12
6 жыл бұрын
trustgtr33 I suspect they might be banking a little on diehard fans of the mk4. Hopefully it won't be priced out of existence like the mk4. (sat on dealer lots mostly cause people didn't want to shell out the money and now look).
@zues287
6 жыл бұрын
They wouldn't have been able to keep it at a reasonable price if they'd designed a new engine, due to research and development costs, and the s55 engine is actually very reliable.
@cjpp78ytube
6 жыл бұрын
trustgtr33 why do people keep acting like the 4th gen supras was a super car? It was a 320hp car In a time when 320hp was really good but still no super car..It handled breaked and accelerated nicely for the time.. Give the new one a chance, it will out perform the old supras stock vs stock and the B58 should be able to make some good power plus deliver it in a better fashion than the 2jz. 450 - 500hp is all I'd need I. The new Supra and I'm sure the B58 can handle that...Heck I've seen people make mid 400s at the wheels with B58 on stock turbo.
@trustgtr33
6 жыл бұрын
i hope that b58 is unlike the n54s, strong but with all the plastic tbo hoses and plastic waterpump, thermostats and leaky cam covers..all i see in that engine is a good base surrounded by cheap plastics. That image does not even give it a chance with toyota's 2jz even the 1jz which are built to last and handle huge power..deep inside i want an all japanese supra
@wisdomntshalintshali3296
6 жыл бұрын
You spoke of the NSX being unreachable, you forgot bout the Nissan GT-R which well over a $ 100k. This might do better
@SuperbMoves
6 жыл бұрын
Id much rather have an older modded NSX to drive daily.
@8kdrei
6 жыл бұрын
Wisdom Ntshalintshali used gtr can go for as little as 56k
@wisdomntshalintshali3296
6 жыл бұрын
Basand the 2011 GTR had a problem of destroying its clutch which I think is the one you would get for that price. The newer models barely depreciate. Plus he is talking of a new sports car for around $60K which will still be under warranty and etc. second hand GTR will probably be out of warranty.
@8kdrei
6 жыл бұрын
Wisdom Ntshalintshali I guess so. Takata (or whatever the lead designers name is) said the car is about driver experience to rival the Cayman. Personally imma be optimistic about the car and try my best to get it when it comes out. I don’t think it should be an equal match for the GTR. The GTR was always on top. I’d like to see the new Supra compete with the 370z, and WRX STI. That’s all just my opinion tho
@wisdomntshalintshali3296
6 жыл бұрын
Basand If Tetsuya put the flat six in the GT 86 instead of the flat four he would have given Porsche a run for their money. Especially since the Cayman and Boxter gave up the flat six for the flat four turbo charged. Imagine the sound of a Porsches flat six on a Toyota. The only reason Porsche would win is because they have been masters of the sports car game for 70 years. That's their niche. Everyone else just follows suite. Plus the build quality of a Porsche compared to a Toyota Porsche wins strains up. Plus all those driving aids. The supra will go for the straight six instead of the flat six. You can't take advantage of ride height on a straight six as you would on a flat six. Bet let's see what happens
@jonrodriguez893
6 жыл бұрын
Why didn't they just take the FT1 or the Lexus RC engine and drive train instead of going with BMW? I thought those platforms would be the new Supra.
@josephfriedling9190
6 жыл бұрын
I'm a huge Toyota fan and i can't wait to see the Supra - with that said i am very suspect with the BMW partnership. I like BMW styling, features and performance but the reliability issues and repair costs are frightening. Our only hope is that BMW had some good ideas but Toyota engineered the entire car......
@SuperZoos
6 жыл бұрын
The supra has always been the larger and a lil heavier then the rest of the cars in its class .but has always had the motor to make up for it .don't know if that'll be the case anymore .still none the less can't wait to see the thing!
@Vcali-cobraV
6 жыл бұрын
Creating an enthusiast’s car and not offering it in a manual is a complete disservice. The natural argument is that automatics (at this point) can perform better, but it will never provide the same experience.
@Jaime7188
6 жыл бұрын
The lack of a manual transmission is a deal breaker for me. It's sad because I would get this car if it wasn't for that.
@Okieant
6 жыл бұрын
Some good points. I think the other thing is that this car doing well leaves open the chance that Toyota sees that people have really wanted this car and will continue to make them so we get lets say a monster of a 2020 Supra. But yes, please put a goddamned manual in it. If they could get a manual in it and the price down to like $45k, it WILL sell. But that's asking a lot
@KennyValdez_
6 жыл бұрын
I would have to agree about 90% with you. I am not too sure if Toyota does not put a manual that it would be a deal breaker for me. I would have to see the car in person as well as drive one before I criticize it in any way, shape or form. How ever I am excited for this new Supra to hit the show room floors
@RNMAutomotiveAddiction
6 жыл бұрын
Engine will have an Iron Block not a regular B58.......Price will be in high $50s to low $60s. I'm waiting on official specs to see if I will upgrade from my BRZ.
@Jaime7188
6 жыл бұрын
RNM AutomotiveAddiction I would trade in my FRS RS2 for this car, but the no manual transmission option is a deal breaker for me
@beexiong2995
6 жыл бұрын
Gtr and Nsx have no manual.
@ant4hellfire
6 жыл бұрын
I don’t think the engine going in the car is going to be something BMW already makes. I’m pretty sure they are developing a new power plant for this venture. The engine that came in the mark IV was very underpowered, then it got tuned. I think that it will be in the same realm with the new Supra. Hopefully the price point will be in the 60K range. If it is it will sell very well. The transmission issue is understandable, but look at the GTR, we all thought that was going to be a deal breaker but it’s a great car without a manual tranny. The NSX flopped because of two things, the price and the hybrid drivetrain. If they priced that car at 80-100K without the hybrid, it would have been an amazing car that sold. This car cant be an 86 V2 because it’s going to be a true sports car not a budget “sports car” I think it’s going to compete with the Infiniti Q60 very closely. In my opinion this Supra will do very well. This just my opinion so I hope I didn’t hurt anyone’s feelings. Thank you
@doctorlarry2273
6 жыл бұрын
The 2J-GTE in the MKIV was advertised as 320 bhp, but stock ones usually dynoed closer to 300 RWHP - which would equate to around 340+ bhp. That was the best in class in 1993.5. It was fairly east and inexpensive to get another 100 rwhp (BPU). And yes, the 2JZ-GTE was very much overbuilt and could take more than double the stock hp with mostly bolt-ons. I don't think the new "Supra" will be able to keep up with my modified MKIV, so I probably will not get one because I don't like BMW unreliability.
@pontiacmaniac7772
6 жыл бұрын
I’m surprised that they didn’t do some fruity crap car companies usually do. Introducing the new 4 door Supra. They take a performance car and make it more family friendly.
@ryadhasanahmed5443
6 жыл бұрын
Pontiac Maniac *INTRODUCING THE NEW SUPRA CROSSOVER* honestly I would go to the TOYOTA HQ and start a riot
@elcrack3343
6 жыл бұрын
Actually i like more the N54 engine, my friend has a 335i and with only a ecu tune it got +70 hp no kidding, the n54 is a masterpiece
@briantristan5634
6 жыл бұрын
That engine is old already
@elcrack3343
6 жыл бұрын
Brian Tristan old but gold
@tbomb887
6 жыл бұрын
the B58 destroys the N54. A tune and downpipe and you are at 400 to the wheels and well over 400 lbft . it revs better, breathes better, better powerband......better.
@elcrack3343
6 жыл бұрын
Tommy Holland but is it as strong, i see that the b58 isnt as "tuner capable" than the n54, is it because of the age? Greetings from chile
@emptyshirt
6 жыл бұрын
So, how much do we think the 4 cylinder will cost? I won't have 50 grand any time soon, but I'll have 35 grand when this car hits the market.
@IndependenceCityMotoring
6 жыл бұрын
Even the last Supra is terribly overrated (due to silly Fast and Furious fanboyism)
@привет_лунатикам
6 жыл бұрын
+Independence City Motoring So what makes a vehicle "overrated"?
@doctorlarry2273
6 жыл бұрын
You apparently know very little about the MKIV. Buyers on BAT, eBay, etc., totally disprove your statement.
@lowkey_exe1523
6 жыл бұрын
there's too many "Oh, its a good car but if only toyota had done this instead of this" i feel like alot of folks are making excuses because they're looking at the car through JDM fanboy glasses. i love Supras as much as the next guy but toyota goofed naming this thing. it'll never live up to the expectations.
@BRUNOCMUSIC
6 жыл бұрын
they should've name it the new celica and put the power around 280 hp (considering the most powerful celica was around 250hp), raising the name supra to a car around 420 hp, more expensive, yes but that's what a supra is right now, a cult name, i dont think it is bad if the supra would be around 70 or 80k as long as it gets what it deserves, only few people would be lucky enough to have that cult car. like the FORD GT but in a small scale like the GT-R R35. and so many other examples
@Slickpete83
6 жыл бұрын
the whole Point of buying a Toyota Supra is a Toyota Engine !!! that will last a long time with no problems , unlike BMW money pit parts
@hiramrosajr8231
6 жыл бұрын
Slickpete83 thank you
@drudru721
6 жыл бұрын
You do realize the 2j was made by Yamaha, not Toyota.
@abcwarrior91
6 жыл бұрын
drudru721 yamaha is still japanese tho
@drudru721
6 жыл бұрын
But not Toyota made point I was trying to make.
@zues287
6 жыл бұрын
The s55 engine is actually pretty damn bulletproof, though. If they designed a new engine for the new Supra, they wouldn't have been able to keep the cost down to a semi-reasonable price, due to R&D.
@wahpanda1520
6 жыл бұрын
remember when the r35 came out and jun cracked the ecu. yeah well same concept except one reason why they went w/ bmw. so it has more support when the z4 shit drops AND so its harder for japan tuners to tune out the box. when the r35 all that was avail was kip kits suspension and one off pieces. and thats how it should be with every car that comes out. now look at it. SAME situation.
@wahpanda1520
6 жыл бұрын
the lfa etc same situation Lambo SAME situation.
@RiggyRonnie
6 жыл бұрын
Will it be another new Acura NSX?
@dondavis4717
6 жыл бұрын
What about the Q60 red sport it is worth mentioning?
@dixieracingteam3351
6 жыл бұрын
Didn't they only confirm the automatic? As in they haven't denied there being a manual
@jerrydelcannon9458
6 жыл бұрын
Why? Just get a 997.2 Carrera S or 4S and be done with it. Plenty are available with a 6 Sp manual. Maybe find one with the X51 package. Just a thought!
@alex_de_tampa
6 жыл бұрын
I think people have forgot what a stock Supra actually was, and they have watched too much KZitem videos of 1500hp Supras. The Supra was ok without modification but stock for stock the new one will be better.
@OffRoad-jh1do
6 жыл бұрын
I really wish they would have made the Supra $100,000 car. Then you could have made it more like the NSX
@mattxander12
6 жыл бұрын
Sort of disagree about the transmission option. Would a manual be fun and enthusiast-praised? sure. But at that price point, you want to compete and perform and that means dual-clutch. I agree with the name being wrong. When I think of 'Supra', I think of a low, gorgeously styled coupe with an engine capable of big power by slapping on a big turbo and supporting mods. That 2JZ is the asian LS motor. That's where I think they're going to fall off the map with this one. Its going to come with an engine already high-strung and not an engine with a lot of head room. But as always, you never know until it gets in the hands of the public and tuners.
@EatSleepDrive
6 жыл бұрын
Valid points. I get what you're saying about the transmission from a performance standpoint, but everything I read that come directly from Toyota or it's staff is that this car is more aimed at fun then outright lap times. Like you said though, only time will tell, I'm excited about the car regardless.
@crispinsugita9398
6 жыл бұрын
A lot of performance cars are actually going back to 8 speed autos since the new performance autos are actually really fast, and don't have the jerkiness and complexity of dual clutches. Notice how the new m cars and amg cars have high performance auto trannies.
@jhouser972
6 жыл бұрын
If the new supra drives anything close to the M2 it will remain on my radar. But if it comes in a manual it’s a done deal I’m buying.
@jeffk464
6 жыл бұрын
Yeah, the M2 is the biggest argument against the supra. Toyota better not price the Supra above the M2.
@craig84downunder
6 жыл бұрын
New Z car will be the winner particularly with the VR30DDTT engine with 400plus hp out of the box
@saphireg8094
6 жыл бұрын
Let’s meet up sometime! I said hey to you at madtree! I have a family member that works for Toyota and can get you a discount, I plan on getting one as well. Should be perfectly balanced like the frs was.
@ItsCreated
6 жыл бұрын
It better not be a redesigned bmw. I’d rather Toyota not make a Supra unless it be the real deal. And I highly doubt the 50-60k price range. It should be a car above a M3 to compete more with a GTR
@SuperMechguy
6 жыл бұрын
Imagine the shit storm if Toyota partnered with Ford lol
@adamcz3183
6 жыл бұрын
SuperMechguy Thats a fucking nightmare. Epic meltdowns.
@sithlordsoup
6 жыл бұрын
If everyone hates the supra I just might get one since nobody will have one, hah
@crispinsugita9398
6 жыл бұрын
Why wouldn't they call it a "supra." It's Front engined, rear wheel drive, and has an inline 6. Stock Mk4's dind't have monster power either. They had what, 270? 300? hp, and were 50k. Not cheap and monster drag cars like those $100k drag projects lol
@doctorlarry2273
6 жыл бұрын
Stock MKIV turbos had an advertised 320 bhp - but that was low. Many dynoed close to 300 rwhp stock. That was better than anything else in it's class at the time. I got mine close to 400 rwhp with about $1,000 in used upgrades (boost controller, exhaust, DP, intake). It's about 600 bhp now, and it does not take anywhere close to $100K for get 1000 HP.
@thatdopedude7217
6 жыл бұрын
ohh 240 with ls swap. thats why you like the new supra
@jvst20051
6 жыл бұрын
Very disappoint that it looks small i was waiting for that long front end thats what made the supra sexy
@SuperMechguy
6 жыл бұрын
Going to the dealer Be like "Yea you got any BMW Supras'?"
@TheDonYG
6 жыл бұрын
Facts from the hood, b. On my constructs, boss.
@beefyisrare3423
6 жыл бұрын
Do y'all like the mk1 supra they look so cool
@elcrack3343
6 жыл бұрын
Love this channel, just discover it
@boadersunite11
6 жыл бұрын
Why is it so small? The mk4 wasn't a little car
@はる-r1r9f
6 жыл бұрын
Dustin J The MK4 Supra was a GT car. Toyota was targeting a “pure sports car experience” like the Porsche Cayman which meant making the car smaller and lighter.
@Mullac23
6 жыл бұрын
how can you hate on it, its not even out yet fully! fucking hell....
@michaeltyang4375
6 жыл бұрын
Swap a 2jz to the new supra.. you get a supra 🤯
@jclaros2801
6 жыл бұрын
They should have gone with a new name. If the new engine is not as good or exceeds the 2JZ then it’s not a true Supra. Every next gen Supra has been better than the last in all aspects. And No Manual = No Thank You!
@bobjo579
6 жыл бұрын
I dont care if a car isnt manual but they should at least give a choice. For a car thats called supra though it should be a manual
@Bishoff03
6 жыл бұрын
The GT 350 is a just a Mustang.... that's where you lost me.
@AgentHubcap
6 жыл бұрын
Is it too soon to call dibs on the 240?
@gray7863
6 жыл бұрын
$63,500 Starting price per a number of articles you are one the mark on most of the other details.
@lexxielex
6 жыл бұрын
I'd stick with the 240 if I was you.
@jvh22a
6 жыл бұрын
Would love to buy your car! But i could only afford your wheels and seat.
@BEMGANG
6 жыл бұрын
how much for 240???
@EK-rr2md
6 жыл бұрын
This car will be a disappointment. It is going to cost too much and not have enough performance. If it is going to cost as much as a corvette, it better be able to hang with one or it will fail.
@cybermind4158
6 жыл бұрын
BMW engine, chassis and other major components is a complete deal breaker for me. Sorry Toyota. I’ve managed to stay away from anything BMW has to offer and won’t start buying that crap now in a Japanese sportscar!
@recheveste31
6 жыл бұрын
We all know its pure hype right now. There is no market for the Supra at this time. It's going to be another disastrous import sports car like the new NSX.
@basementality4924
6 жыл бұрын
NSX is fast garbage. They over complicated it and ruined that car. If this car is over 60k it will not sell. I’ll get an Audi TT RS or gt350 for that. You compared the new supras weight with the gt350 but didn’t mention that it has 200 less hp.
@muhammadnurakbar4188
5 жыл бұрын
*Tetsuya Tada must be fired...*
@leolldankology
6 жыл бұрын
Flawed Supra? Pffffft, it comes with fake removable airvents, that alone sold me. Who wants a 600 bhp car....
@Imleocalm
6 жыл бұрын
For me? No manual NO PURCHASE
@christianbaseme6257
6 жыл бұрын
buy the car and do a swap
@huyaha
6 жыл бұрын
but the skyline gtr has continued to live on with great success , i get the whole not being able to live up to the nostalgia but still i think each gtr is a weapon in its own right. the new supra sounds like it has nothing of the supra dna ! they have put that great name to a piece of shit of a car. very unlikely there will be 1000hp new supras going around. the old one was so over engineered and well built
@changvue83
6 жыл бұрын
For 50 to 60k I go buy a mk4 for that money
@ammartm1
6 жыл бұрын
I will never buy automatic on sport car it’s boring
@Tain950
6 жыл бұрын
The new Supra is a big let down
@yint2416
6 жыл бұрын
I think all toyota should keep their sports cars in japan nobody will like it in america or they just quite testing and throw it away the ugly bmw supra
@nelsonramos2218
6 жыл бұрын
A Toyota legend with out a toyota engine???
@jacksondaniels8169
6 жыл бұрын
It will be an epic fail just like the new NSX.
@TylerRaffle92
6 жыл бұрын
Bmw engine? So a Toyota that’s not reliable
@Singleturbo-sk9qp
6 жыл бұрын
They could have built a 3jz like they could have made it a 3.5 liter striaght 6 with twin turbo and they could have made it look more like the ft1 but they full of shit
@upperleftnorthwest4278
6 жыл бұрын
There was a video on the new supras exhaust note. Sounds more like an s55 m3 than a b58
@vinmarz
6 жыл бұрын
I don't think you will get one.
@MrAlansordo
6 жыл бұрын
Go get yourself a gt350
@brettmosley4058
6 жыл бұрын
No manual.... GAYYYYY!!! 7 Speed manual would have been awesome....
@moneyparhar
6 жыл бұрын
Paying $60k for Toyota with unrealivale BMW engine smfh
@hiramrosajr8231
6 жыл бұрын
911 FLAT SIX exactly
@TheBishop12
6 жыл бұрын
911 FLAT SIX lol surprised there are no triggered bmw fanboys here
@truelegendinblack
6 жыл бұрын
911 FLAT SIX N55 engine is pretty solid most of their engines are. Of Course some parts messing up like anything over time with a high rev engine but the saying goes take care of it and it will take care of you. Lolol
@dixieracingteam3351
6 жыл бұрын
BMW literally helped design the original 2JZ. Ever heard of the N54? I can trust BMW
@stupid2574
6 жыл бұрын
their engines arent that bad, its the rest of the car that breaks
@swanblake
6 жыл бұрын
Enjoy your overpriced, automatic, slow BMW. Zero appeal from the new Supra
@elcrack3343
6 жыл бұрын
Blake Swan slow?
@maz500
6 жыл бұрын
How's it overpriced if it's roughly the same as a cayman?
@truelegendinblack
6 жыл бұрын
Bmw is known for their high reviving inline 6. To be honest BMW engines have been called the new Supra Engines. A simple ECU JB tune can bring out 400 to the crack to 500 at wheel for 250. BMWd are not slow and if you got a slow model they are fun to drive
@truelegendinblack
6 жыл бұрын
Maqsud Rezwan true people act like the Supra was cheap when it came out it was 40-50k car same range as a NSX. R34 GTR was the same I don’t know about previous gen
@maz500
6 жыл бұрын
JDMxlove I also remember seeing an old top gear review where the Mitsubishi GTO (3000GT) and the RX-7 costs the same as a Jaguar XJS (£35k)
@dfwrealestateservicesllc2878
6 жыл бұрын
so long story short, you don't know anything about the new Supra.
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