what I find really even more depressing is that pretty much the lives of original SV2 crew members sucked after their SV2 days were over.
@thunderhand_music
3 жыл бұрын
Hey, there! Thanks so much for posting these. I was a big fan of the anime in the 90’s, and this live action version is so cool! We have no access to it in the U.S., so I was happy to find it here. Thanks again!
@falconwind00
Жыл бұрын
Since Patlabor is a “realistic” setting, it’s interesting that they’re establishing that bipedal robots are an abandoned technology leftover from the 90’s that was meant to be revolutionary, but ended up being impractical. As a mecha fan that’s depressing, but it feels very realistic.
THIS IS FANTASTIC FOR ALL THOSE WHO HAVE NOT SEEN PATLABOUR BEFORE. THIS WORKS GOOD FOR THE ONES WHO ARE SEEING THIS FOR THE FIRST TIME. REALLY LOVING IT! 😍😍
The revelation that Noa and Asuma got hitched is... not much of a surprise, actually. Vindication for shipping those two from the beginning, huh? I suspect that Ota's involvement did nothing good for his private company's insurance premiums...
It's depressing to hear, but I think the rant is also really interesting because it represents how different the future is looking for us now compared to the future of it Patlabor, all the way back in the 80's, when the Japanese economy seemed unstoppable and tech seemed to be going in a particular direction, had predicted. Although Patlabor still hit the mark on a lot of topics, including the prevalence of unmanned craft being the new trend of the future, it was a series that prided itself on the realism of its setting and that very thing has shifted. Did it work for a new series setup? I dunno, it didn't seem to help it. I think the concept of Patlabor can easily be adjusted to reflect more contemporary times and views of the future with a soft reboot, while this chose to exist in the movie continuity. (I think the general cast of the "next generation" being kinda weak didn't help either.) but all that said, in a vaccuum, this monologue is sort of interesting, even if very depressing for a mecha fan to hear.
@Spudtron98
Ай бұрын
You don't need to do much to retool Patlabor for the modern era. Just change the aesthetic a bit so they're using something better than mere floppy disks, and the rest comes together.
@MayumiC-chan9377
Жыл бұрын
need a newer anime series for this era i miss the quarky humor
@hemaccabe4292
Жыл бұрын
I would imagine that if we could make such devices, they would be great at a wide range of construction uses. Then the easiest way to handle them if they were used badly would be police versions. So the basic mission still makes sense. For military use? That option would have to be re-examined. However, I think there might still be a useful configuration.
@Spudtron98
Ай бұрын
In the opening of Patlabor 2, we saw military-grade mechs get torn up by 30mm AA cannons. While their mobility is fantastic, I don't think they would have seen much use outside of scouting, because there's just no way to maintain a Labor's mobility (the whole reason they were built) while armouring them heavily enough to survive more than simple anti-materiel weapons. This, on top of the significant maintenance challenges they pose. Police Labors were even less armoured, as they were never intended to face military hardware to begin with, sacrificing durability for the mobility needed to physically wrestle rogue civilian mechs into submission. Still, they proved their worth. One example that comes to mind is an incident in episode 25 of the TV series, where the conventional SWAT unit tried to handle a rogue Labor on their own, in a typical show of chest-thumping, and they couldn't do a damn thing to stop it, losing a number of cars in the process. Then SV2 got involved, and it was sorted out real quick.
@hemaccabe4292
Ай бұрын
@@Spudtron98 What an amazing and thoughtful reply. Thank you. In the series, there was an ongoing theme that the Patlabors were being studied for their potential military application. I can still see potential military applications. Imagine a tank that could walk? Still it does seem that the current trend in military tech is to go small as the balance between lethality of weapons and effectiveness of armor keeps swinging toward lethality. That could change though as materials science keeps working the problem.
A living breathing character assassination of the concept of mecha itself, from one of its former champions. Is our era really over?
@StormsandSaugeye
Жыл бұрын
This is literally Mamorus entire schtick. His work has always been a deconstruction of the genre. And all his projects hve been similar in deconstructing the genre. Macross plus for example, or even ghost in the shell. Or even his OG patlabor work.
@Kiyosuki
Жыл бұрын
I personally don't really consider this character assassination as much as I do Mamoru venting about the shift in our real world times. The future that Patlabor predicted in the 80's, is looking pretty different by today's standards. Also even back then, one of Patlabor's big qualities was its justification for bipedal mecha, going to great lengths of in universe detail to justify them while still presenting a very believable future. And what does keep the concept of mecha alive if not just sheer love of the concept, if "fetishization" is too harsh a word? I believe he's venting the frustration in feeling it much more difficult to do that, at least with Patlabor's original setting, in a way that feels believable. (which makes me wonder why they set this in the movie continuity to begin with rather than simply reboot it but thats an aside.) My two cents though is I don't think the era of mecha is gone, but times have definitely changed. The heyday of mecha that Patlabor knew is gone, which I believe is being lamented here a bit' but I don't believe the concept is gone.
@jarik7658
Жыл бұрын
What does Macross Plus have to do with Oshii though?
@StormsandSaugeye
Жыл бұрын
@jarik7658 I remember reading somewhere once he was involved in the project. Of course when I need to cross check and reference it I can't find it anymore. Which means I probably just misremembered some part of it. Though, even other projects he was involved in like urusei yatsura movie 2 show all of his usual elements at work too.
I can see why this flopped hard in Japan. Its all doom and gloom for most of the original cast.
@extraleague01
2 жыл бұрын
yeah, I really hate how they badly treated the original SV2 members like this, even if off-screen. And the generation of SV2 members are pretty much stand-in for the original members minus their likability. Since this is set in the movies timeline, the original SV2 was already disbanded by the time of Patlabor 2 movie, but they deserved better that this, even if after the 2nd movie's ending.
@user-gk6gl5tl7k
Жыл бұрын
シゲさん😅 ハンガー内は禁煙🚭では❓❓?。
@user-lm3nt8tq8m
Жыл бұрын
ノアちゃんを少女とかいうなよ、れっきとした20代だよ。
@jill6824
Жыл бұрын
後藤さんなにやってんのよ( ´~` )
@sinsinsss5216
Жыл бұрын
Matane buta pejabat America pupuk bumi rak ndue harga diri.
There they go again, being all deep and philosophical to get in the way of telling a story at a reasonable pace. I get it, the Japanese fought for the wrong side of the fence once and felt bad about it, but get over it already and tell us a story fitting to the medium. If I want to listen to somebody yammer around about existence and meaning for half an hour I'd read a book. This is Patlabor!
@StormsandSaugeye
Жыл бұрын
....... *Did you even WATCH the movies?*
@Kiyosuki
Жыл бұрын
@@StormsandSaugeye Seriously. The second movie has some of the most biting commentary about post war japanese society of any japanese movie in general. The various series's themselves are littered with social commentary. It's an integral part of Patlabor's DNA by merit of its status as a police procedural drama. If that's not your thing Tomas thats fine, but *THAT* is Patlabor. Also, "get over it already?" Jesus, the arrogance.
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