That looks like a really nicely made spindle moulder, definitely worth the effort of restoring as you won't find anything of that quality nowadays, especially with relatively modern conventions like that shaft attachment method which was way ahead of it's time and some companies like SCM still use the exact same method. I would say you're pretty close with the estimation of it being from the 1930s, but it is quite possible that it's older too as ball bearings had been in use quite extensively before then, I've got adverts in some of my old wood machining books from 1918 that advertise spindle moulders will ball bearings. I do have a PDF I made of that particular 1918 book, "How to Work a Spindle Moulder" and also "How to Tend Cutters, Knives, and Saws for Machine Woodworkers and Sawmill Owners" by the same author, if you're interested in looking at them I'll send you a link. Those cutter blocks are interesting, I think the ones with saw blades in the centre are what's called "bead-splitters", quite specialist as they would be used for making glazing beads for timber windows and doors by running pieces of a certain width through the cutter and blade and ending up with two pieces on the outfeed side. Old cutter blocks can work just as well as they originally did but they do lack modern safety features and you have to be careful to ensure they are safe to run and haven't been abused in the past, though a few you have there are naturally chip-limiting owing to their body being the same shape as the cutter with minimal cutter projection so would be quite safe to use without a high risk of kickback unlike something like square block tooling. One thing you can do with a 25mm spindle is use 25mm-30mm "Top Hat" reducers or reducing sleeve bushings, so you can use modern tooling without needing a completely new shaft.
@dirtbagd89
Жыл бұрын
I always enjoy your videos - thanks for taking the time to put them together. I look forward to seeing what you do with this machine.
@tiitsaul9036
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for taking your time to film your experience and sharing on KZitem.
@barkebaat
Жыл бұрын
I am sure the woodworking Gods will look favourably upon you for the love and care you show to these old machines. You will notice their favour when you make something of wood and the parts just come together nicely, fitting well, and the work goes smoothly, without problems. You might think it's because you're such a competent woodworker... but in reality it's the old Gods doing you a good turn, in return -- because you deserve it.
@bobafetting6373
Жыл бұрын
Yay! So glad to see your workshop tools again. The first video of yours I saw was your old bandsaw, so I think very fondly about your workshop :)
@Motociclista760
Жыл бұрын
You're a genius Matthias
@Mr.Fabulous-1990
Жыл бұрын
looks like a fun project. I would definitely look to have a custom spindle made (or make it yourself) to use modern cutting heads. That should be easily reversible as well, seeing as you were able to take the spindle out. If I had the machines for it I'd offer to help out, but alas, my simple lathe wouldn't be able, but maybe a collaboration with This Old Tony is in order! Looking forward to part 2
@thomasdoherty6876
Жыл бұрын
I second this, im sure it would be a fun challenge and an interesting video
@bobx2387
Жыл бұрын
Hi Matthias. I always look forward to your video uploads. I worked for Westland Helicopters and found that we used really old machines both in production and in the pattern shop. It never ceased to amaze me that old machines left out in weather for years with a small amount of work could burst back into life again. A great many of our machines were pre and just post war. I admire you work immensely. Bob Weston super Mare. England.
@MrXsanders
Жыл бұрын
Awesom to see you work like always . The times when you are facing a problem and how you figure out stuff is inspiring ! In my opinion it is definitely worth restoring the machine. My russian made shaper has a 32mm shaft and i have custom made cutters for it but the newer ones i have to be a 40mm center and ad a bushing on top and bottom to secure in addition to a locking nut (if you are interested i can send pictures) and the other option is contract a lathe worker to make a custom spindle arbo i was about to do it but i have alot of the old 32 mm cuter i decided not to. Its a very useful tool with the auto feeder.
@OllyParryJones
Жыл бұрын
Fascinating to see such an historic machine. Glad you're aware of the risks of older cutterblocks. I look forward to seeing any future videos on this one. Thanks for sharing.
@jginsberg1
Жыл бұрын
Depending on how the cutters are mounted it shouldn't be too difficult to make a slitted bushing with an outer diameter of 30mm and an inner diameter of 25mm. I used to work for a gearbox company that made them much thinner than that for mounting on motors. The other option (amonst others ) would be to make a shrink fit shaft extention over the existing shaft.
@Frengo69
Жыл бұрын
Turning a new spindle head will cost far less than buying a new machine. And that piece of history is so solid that it will never break...
@poobertop
Жыл бұрын
7:07 - A priceless reaction. Thanks for sharing!
@sion023
Жыл бұрын
Personally I would just use the old tooling, Carefully. New cutter blocks though can be supplied with 'top hat' reducing bushes to 30mm, 1 1/4" or 40mm, so no problem to keep your 25mm arbor, unless you need the larger diameter for larger/heavier cuts. I think your 25mm arbor will be fine with a 3kw motor.
@amhjoinery2060
Жыл бұрын
A very interesting watch. I have just picked up a 1914 haigh and co belt driven spindle moulder. It’s been converted to electric motor at some point.
@WildFireburns92
Жыл бұрын
It is definitely worth restoring this shaper It's a great size and very interesting As also said somewhere else it is worth looking up more about new heads and adapter rings (don't forget that power is transferred via vertical pressure on the Arbor) In any case most operations on a shaper can be done with basic cutters Also on a relatively underpowered machine as this I recommend using small diameter cutters like the ones you already have. Bigger cutters will only be hard to use
@johndavies2396
Жыл бұрын
I am retired now but used a machine very similar to this but with a square cutter block would be terrifying now but when you are young and know no different that was fine, another great video many thanks looking forward to see it running 🔨🔨
@TheMaxwellee
Жыл бұрын
Excellent. Thank you.
@corvusduluth
Жыл бұрын
Great video, thank you. Best of 'luck' (Skill).
@user-ef4dd6me5e
6 ай бұрын
I feel like this would be a great collaboration with mymechanics!
@KLB1080
Жыл бұрын
I find the drawing work incredible.
@211teitake
Жыл бұрын
I always love your content and the narration.
@jhtnpa
Жыл бұрын
Love your videos! Could you make a 2.5mm collet to fit over your spindle to take up the space for use with the newer 30mm cutter heads?
@kennyrogersfan
Жыл бұрын
Spindel nie ohne Oberlager betreiben. da gabs früher schwere Unfälle. Diese Bauart ist nicht mehr zugelassen (gewerblich ist der betriebssichere Zustand 1X JÄHRLICH abzunehmen (DGUV). privat sollte man sich nicht allzuweit in Gefahr wagen. schönes Projekt auf jeden fall 👍👍
@lantapaukku7629
Жыл бұрын
I wonder as the machine is fitted this separate 25mm mk4 taper spindle it shouldn't be extraordinary expensive to have a custom made new one with 30mm axle shaft. A thought of a proper frequency converter for driving the machine might be a good option.
@brandon8833
Жыл бұрын
This video rocks
@TheToolnut
Жыл бұрын
Ah the German's! Marvellous people, 👍🇩🇪 🇮🇪 🇮🇪
@wilsonguitars156
Жыл бұрын
did i miss #2???....its gonna be good!!
@peter_kelly
Жыл бұрын
Looks like a vintage Holz-Her power feeder.
@KOEL_CHUMBO
7 күн бұрын
how mach liter of oil it takes?
@glennmoreland6457
Жыл бұрын
I've a Wadkin EV.....lineshaft driven... 1 1/4" spindle... There's nowt wrong with using Whitehill cutter blocks you just need to be aware... You be got a power feeder.....so use that... ☹🇬🇧
@09conrado
Жыл бұрын
If your arbor is 25 mm, can't you have it turned to 13 mm by a machinist? Edit: I now understand it to be 30 mm.... then yes perhaps a sleeve or bushing to cover the gap? And that motor, is it possible to install modern bearings so you can use it upright and install it inside the housing?
@GianlucaTurriniok
Жыл бұрын
A “strange” plug…. also know as Italian 😂
@matthiasburger2315
Жыл бұрын
;) almost, but this was a different standard for 3 phase power.
@rehoboth_farm
Жыл бұрын
Yeah, I see your dilemma. If the size difference was the other way you could just put a sleeve on the spindle. Perhaps you can machine a custom spindle.
@jpsimon206
Жыл бұрын
I've always wanted to come across one of these machines but it has yet to happen, they seem so wonderfully versatile. I just wanted to mention two things, undoubtedly you are probably already aware but no harm double checking. The first, are you sure the machine is metric? 25 mm is quite a bit like 1 in and 100 years of wear. What I thought might be more valuable to know is that I've seen a lot of people adapt these using horizontal milling machine arbors. Or spacers rather. If you look around on eBay, NOS cutters for horizontal Mills are shockingly inexpensive, particularly the more unusual profiles. 1 in is a very common arbor size and there are especially good deals on larger lots. Normally it's always a crap shoot to buy used cutters, but I have found the majority of these to be genuine NOS, the prices are typically not very much more than scrap value. I have no idea if those circumstances are the case in Europe, it seems like American fabricators decided all at once to abandon horizontal Mills outright. Maybe some new safety regulation made it too inefficient?
@TheducksOrg
Жыл бұрын
Germany has used the metric systems in parts since 1868 and wholly since 1871, so it's probably 25mm
@matthiasburger2315
Жыл бұрын
Yes it is. But there are imperial units in that maschine nevertheless: the thread pitches of the differential nut for example...
@barthanes1
Жыл бұрын
I'd just use the old tooling. A little less safe, but just as effective.
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