Fun fact- The AIM-120A looks different in the secondary weapons tab based on which nation it's in. Everyone has a green-finned AIM-120A except Japan, who uses the same icon as the AIM-7C/D/E
@kirby0louise
3 ай бұрын
I think it's supposed to give a visual hierarchy for which missiles are the best. White < Red < Yellow < Green. But there are a few mistakes, such as the AIM-9M being green on the F-15J while the AAM-3 is yellow
@GeneralLee2000
3 ай бұрын
@@kirby0louise yeah it's supposed to be that
@Tuhrue
3 ай бұрын
Be gone inferior Aim-7Ms, embrace the AMRAAM
@eyo8766
3 ай бұрын
ffs I just got to the AIM 7Ms XD
@just_david
3 ай бұрын
@@eyo8766 rip
@tylerburnell7306
3 ай бұрын
@@just_davidthey kinda work now
@FishFlys
3 ай бұрын
@@tylerburnell7306they are more effective in vacuum sure, but with the possibility of over 100 fox3 being launched on city you are not ever going to guide one in from range anymore unless you make it very late game and find someone running the extra chromosome modification
@just_david
3 ай бұрын
@@tylerburnell7306 I mean, true. I've been shot down by the "inferior" AIM-7F a LOT, can't imagine what 7M OR the AMRAAM would be like
@mauswaffe
3 ай бұрын
One small thing about Japanese F-15s. While this is the latest service model for Japan, there was an ADTW testbed that would feature IRST, technically making it better. As for the JSI, it's not been prototyped yet. While the project is still active we have yet to see any physical progress on it besides budget allocations. But as it'd be completed it would essentially be an F-15EX equivalent, but rather than being based on an F-15E airframe it will be based on lighter, single seat F-15C (F-15J) airframe. It will also have integration of Japanese weapons, JASSM and APG-82(V)1 radar but that's about as far into specifics as we can get as of now. There is rumored first flights either later this year, or next year, but those are only rumors.
@RedTail1-1
3 ай бұрын
The F-15EX is based on the E yes, but. It is still a different airframe. Compare them side by side and you'll see how sleek and aerodynamic the EX looks compared to the bulky and heavy E. Whatever they did is absolutely incredible because the EX can maneuver like a thrust vectoring aircraft without thrust vectoring engines. The programming in the FCS is just ridiculous.
@mauswaffe
3 ай бұрын
@@RedTail1-1Yes, and neither will the JSI be "just an F-15C". What I was trying to say is that it is based on it in the way that it too will be a single seat aircraft mainly focused air combat. It won't lean into the attack role nearly as much as the E based EX. I never meant to say the EX wasn't a very capable airframe, just point out a difference to the JSI.
@jacobbaumgardner3406
3 ай бұрын
@@mauswaffeit will be lighter, but EX will have loads more thrust, since it uses those GE motors seen on the F-16C.
@GeneralLee2000
3 ай бұрын
Interesting, I've been told they had actually made 3 JSIs at this stage, maybe my source was wrong though
@mauswaffe
3 ай бұрын
@@jacobbaumgardner3406 From what I understand the only basis to the claim that the JSI does not upgrade engines comes from an article using the sole source that nothing about such upgrades was mentioned. However these seem to disregard just how little we actually know about the project. Another thing worth noting is the collaboration with Boeing on the project, with them even stating it to be onpar with the F-15EX and F-15QA, as well as calling it a "total transformation of the jet". Both of this is from Boeings announcement of the project in 2022. What I see as likely is that an engine upgrade is planned, mainly due to the planned increase in payload demanding it. Only that no public information in specific details has been released yet.
@InterstellarTaco
3 ай бұрын
Ive been having a good time bonking fighters with the AV8B plus. Being a hover rat with AMRAAMS is a vibe.
@BlackjackTheLad
3 ай бұрын
1:48 WELCOME BACK, SOLO WING PIXY
@fate3071
3 ай бұрын
Gonna be honest top tier is more fun and less of a clusterfuck than I thought it would be. It's actually more painful to fly 11.3 than 12.0 at the moment. I've been using the MiG-29 and 29G and the R-27's are basically still garunteed kills and I can usually still go defensive soon enough to avoid the ARH missiles after plinking someone with a SARH
@Gunner._
3 ай бұрын
Idk why but its so much harder to survive the aim120 then any other missile flying low to the ground like i feel the splash is bigger than the one of the aim56 😂
@GeneralLee2000
3 ай бұрын
Can't say I've had that experience
@Evrimomono
3 ай бұрын
I keep saying this and I will. If everyone's good at BVR, nobody dies to it. It leads to IRCCM or a merge. Idk why people hype it up that much and call something you learn in 2 seconds skillfull. I personally found going low and keeping the adrenaline going much fun. To each their own I guess And not so fun part about a merge in top tier 16v16 is that you're going to get 3rd partied.
@ВячеславФролов-д7я
3 ай бұрын
As a bvr enjoyer, I'd like to explain this topic a bit. When i was flying low in furballs, most of my deaths came from sudden irccm fox2 appearing from the nowhere. I couldn't realistically do anything to prevent that death. When I die in a bvr fight, I know that that was my mistake, I could've done something differently and win that fight or at least escape it. That's what keeps my interest in this kind of a gameplay
@anxietygamingactual6554
3 ай бұрын
"That changes, but realistically that's not gonna matter in War Thunder" (F-15A vs F-15C engines at altitude) - Those of us who are going to 30,000ft every match for BVR goodness...There are dozens of us! DOZENS!
@mlcs
3 ай бұрын
I hope Gaijin will add F-2.
@GeneralLee2000
3 ай бұрын
They will at some point
@Cheese_Authority
Ай бұрын
we believe
@MandaCoster
3 ай бұрын
Gen.Lee : This is current top tier after all *shows pic of Fox-3 disco radar
@Registered_Simp
3 ай бұрын
Just from initial testing, the AAM-4's feel like a trade from the Aim-120A/B's. They feel like they carry more speed at range and for maneuvering targets when employed at high altitude. But when the fight gets lower, Aim-120's acceleration advantage gives it the overall edge. If you manually loft the Aim-120's, they perform very similarly though
@GeneralLee2000
3 ай бұрын
Not sure when you tested them, but at least on launch they had a REALLY poor delta V and overall were just not great, apparently that's being adjusted though
@user-gv4zb9rc6u
3 ай бұрын
@GeneralLee2000 they patched the motor from a MICA one over to a single stage motor with 20100 newtons for 7.5 seconds now, so acceleration is better than the AMRAAM up to about 12km, then the 120 holds the lead but, the AAM-4 has slightly lower drag as well so- the two are somewhat interchangeable now
@GeneralLee2000
3 ай бұрын
@@user-gv4zb9rc6u perfect, it wasn't live yesterday when I made the video lol
@Registered_Simp
3 ай бұрын
@@GeneralLee2000 Did a basic test at 8,000m against static mach 1 targets to see how much speed the missiles bleed at various distances at altitude. Shooting at 40km, Aim-120A/B is doing ~1.65 mach at impact (~1.8 with 25 degree loft) while AAM-4 is doing ~1.8 mach with no modifiers (Marked improvement over dev server state, where the same test yielded an impact speed of mach 1 despite a slightly higher top speed💀). Time to impact difference was still ~2-3 seconds in favor of Aim-120A/B, presumably due to acceleration. The missiles about even out at ~30km with or without the added loft for Aim-120, and within 20km, Aim-120 appears to be slightly superior, also presumably due to acceleration. It should also be noted that it appears AAM-4 does not get to as high a speed as Aim-120A/B (~3.25 mach to Aim-120's ~3.6), which, factoring the impact speed difference (or lack there of), suggests the missile has a superior ballistic coefficient. However, from gameplay experience, AMRAAM's superior acceleration appears to put in more work once the air gets thicker, as AAM-4's motor struggles more to get it fast down low due to the extra missile weight.
@user-gv4zb9rc6u
3 ай бұрын
@Registered_Simp The AAM-4 accelerates faster than the AMRAAM, though in the first 5-6km, and the two end up passing around 12km. Within that zone, the AAM-4 should have the edge as its motor burns for 7.5 seconds at the full 20100, whereas the 120A/B motor would only burn the main motor for a few seconds and then the slightly weaker sustainer for another few seconds- at least if I'm remembering the numbers right
@RobHouse.69
3 ай бұрын
Fun fact: the F-15A at least is still missing around 30% of its AB thrust
@ВячеславФролов-д7я
3 ай бұрын
Of you are tired of fox3 gameplay, check fox1 combat at 11.3-11.7, specifically f4j/s of f14 early (probably soms french doriros too, but i don't own them). With the multipath nerfed they feel incredible when flown at altitude
@SuperTitoneli
3 ай бұрын
I've never thought that play a game could be so painful like war thunder RB top tier right now, one fucking hundred missiles in the air, pls gaijin what is so hard in just do what the community is asking for over a year, give us 6v6 for top tier...
@GeneralLee2000
3 ай бұрын
6v6 would likely be too small, squads would stomp insanely hard. Would love to see some reductions though
@rickdubbink
3 ай бұрын
I agree about too many players but you see a lot less ground huggers now which is amazing to keep away from fox 2 furballs.
@spray916
3 ай бұрын
I refuse to grind this as playing the F-15J is impossible. 7Ms vs FOX-3s is miserable.
@SixteenthSine20
3 ай бұрын
Fly the 4EJ KAI. Sure, the effective research won’t be there, but it’s an 11.7 compared to the 12.3
@spray916
3 ай бұрын
@@SixteenthSine20 most of the games are 12.7 and 12.3 when queuing 11.7. AIM-54 spam has also been borderline broken.
@GeneralLee2000
3 ай бұрын
Absolutely horrid gameplay
@SixteenthSine20
3 ай бұрын
@@spray916 better than SPAMRAAM Central though. Unless you wanna fly the absolutely terrible F-4EJ ADTW
@ebality
3 ай бұрын
@@spray916that's not how it works, 11.7 plays 11.0-12.0, at least that's how it works on USA
@madeingermany9445
3 ай бұрын
give f-15 the flare / maw pods. other jets have flarepods too with insane amount of flares in them. the gripen has 720 countermeasures with the pods and many harrier has from 400 to 720 flares with those extra pods ingame. if planes had thos pods give it to them ingame too.
@erushi5503
2 ай бұрын
Technically F-15J is an F-15C with reduced armaments F-15J(M) is an F-15E with reduced armaments Why reduced armaments, its due to the treaty during Japan surrender back in ww2, they can only have defensive weapons
@rowanyuh6326
Ай бұрын
It has better weapons than MSIP II wtf are you yapping about
@CXNMXN-AV
3 ай бұрын
Hey just found you out and realized I played with you and you hard carried my 11.3 Team. I enjoyed the vid keep it up
@GeneralLee2000
3 ай бұрын
Appreciate it!
@kiki7170
3 ай бұрын
The F-15C with the demo camo is the best, change my mind
@Peepeepoopo
3 ай бұрын
true
@GeneralLee2000
3 ай бұрын
THAT CAMO IS SO BALLER
@kiki7170
3 ай бұрын
@@GeneralLee2000 Yeah! Let's Goooo!
@RedTail1-1
3 ай бұрын
If you aren't subscribed to Lee yet, do that right now. He's the best WT content creator on this platform.
@kingghidorah8106
3 ай бұрын
does he cover props and tanks tho
@GeneralLee2000
3 ай бұрын
@GeneralLee2000
3 ай бұрын
Thanks man I appreciate it a lot
@RedTail1-1
3 ай бұрын
@@GeneralLee2000 🦅
@thisusername589
3 ай бұрын
I would have gone for the new J first, but the C has those OANG skins, gotta rep my home first.
@Warrior_AP
3 ай бұрын
The f15 j is an f15 c but guess they have to make people grind
@irontaoist2665
3 ай бұрын
Lmao, casually parries a Gripen at the end of the video.
@Scorchluck
3 ай бұрын
Oh, oh, do a video about normal Su-27 in current meta. It's going to be so much fun!
@sayorisione8868
3 ай бұрын
There’s 1 more Japanese f15 they can add. I don’t know the exact name but recently Japanese f15’s are using IRST
@GeneralLee2000
3 ай бұрын
It was a single prototype, so...
@sayorisione8868
3 ай бұрын
@@GeneralLee2000 they put in the f16Aj and the f14 made it past that aircraft in trails for the new JSDF fighter. I can see a irst f15J coming to japan
@justaguy1186
3 ай бұрын
RIP IR META!
@elenaeverett4481
3 ай бұрын
Hope they give the Japan a better pilot model soon too.
@domenicteixeira8984
3 ай бұрын
I have a bug with my f15c MSIP, when I select chaff it counts down flares while I deploy chaff. It’s annoying, by the time match is nearly over I need flares to defend against IR missiles.
@RNGesus777
3 ай бұрын
I'm over here jamming my WEZ. I got 120s on my tip right now. I'm over here just cranking my shit, I'm larping hard as fuck man. I'm a freak man like for real
@dipchit_dino6587
3 ай бұрын
Definitely going to use your code once you get the decal
@OtterMusician
3 ай бұрын
Because of the way my brain works,, this means it's the LAST Eagle I want to play lol.. I feel like if I play the best one first, I won't have any motivation to play the others.
@GeneralLee2000
3 ай бұрын
Hey fair mindset
@neon5099
3 ай бұрын
Is there a reason why the Baz Meshupar doesn't have hms radar lock capability?
@TallyPatka-dz2cz
3 ай бұрын
It is still using the old radar which is why it has the weird tws thing, it only has the software update
@Phazmatix
3 ай бұрын
Honestly, the multi path changes have actually helped the good players who learned how to fly low since now you can't just half ass it and still be immune to radar missiles. For example in the 4 games it took me to get the AIM120 i managed to win low alt missile jousts with the aim7 against all kinds of missiles just because i was able to stay lower to the ground. Obviously this change stll isn't all good as you said 16v16 is cancer and should be burned at the stake as fast as possible, but i do appreciate the skill ceiling being raised
@notafrog2040
3 ай бұрын
As long as awe have anything above 8v8, multipathing needs to go back to what it was
@blanchbacker
3 ай бұрын
@@notafrog2040no. Adapt. Or switch to Ace Combat.
@ebality
3 ай бұрын
@notafrog2040 10v10 would be nice, 8v8 too small
@Phazmatix
3 ай бұрын
@notafrog2040 I think 10v10 or even 12v12 could work on some of the larger maps in game but things like Spain and Afghanistan need 8v8 or even 6v6
@DrakenTandem
3 ай бұрын
Is the AAM4 worse in every way than the AMRAAM or in certain things like manuverablility?
@mauswaffe
3 ай бұрын
In game it currently has more range but is slower than an AIM-120B. It also has lower maneuveravility in G load, but I've heard pulls more AoA as well making it more agile than the statcard says. Though the missile is still very inaccurate as of now, with the real AAM-4 featuring 5-10% increased maneuverability over AIM-120B as well as higher speed thanks to a dual stage motor that is similar, yet higher thrust, to that of the AIM-7M it replaced in Japanese service. Tge G loading higher than AMRAAM by 5-10% would be ~37-38G in single plane for a conventionally controlled AAM-4. However I've also heard that it might be a bank to turn controlled missile, using the roll controls it has to use the directional fuse. This would mean that the maneuverability is consistently dual plane. However in game this would force a single plane maneuverability, generally dual plane divided by 1.4, of only ~26-27G until Gaijin decides to add BTT controls for missiles that have it. The only other missile to have this that is in game is the AAM-3, which currently has a single plane G loading of 40G, but would go up to 56G with BTT controls added.
@DrakenTandem
3 ай бұрын
@@mauswaffe thanks man
@dualie5466
3 ай бұрын
I’m assuming alot of air RB players that loved top tier for the casual missile furball will either be spamming them or just quitting and moving to a different BR. I never see these people actually defend or try to have tactics against this type of combat. I honestly want to embrace it.
@ВячеславФролов-д7я
3 ай бұрын
I see the low-flyers adapt these days. At the first day of this patch, almost every fox1/3 shot at low-flying target resulted in a kill. Today if half of mid-range amramm shots hit anybody on the deck, I call it a success
@valic3634
3 ай бұрын
Can you cover the av8b plus that US got
@FM-hw8yv
3 ай бұрын
Flies high in the sky Yeah he has a deathwish
@PerciusLive
3 ай бұрын
If you watch defyn's vid, he flies high quite regularly to maximize his PK per missile. You just have to be aware of your MAR because that is crucial to not eating a missile yourself.
@FM-hw8yv
3 ай бұрын
@@PerciusLive PK? MAR? What
@generalpatton8468
3 ай бұрын
I fly high all the time and have no problem. People who complain about going high in altitude just have skill issues (literally). Just learn to notch and shit.
@Mai-ek8rf
3 ай бұрын
it's weird that there are more people flying high with the fox-3 update, every game there's at least 6 guys climbing up to 10k alt. before the update there little to none doing this.
@banalnapato10
3 ай бұрын
I am currently grinding this since the AAM4 was so good, but guess what??? AAM4 is now the worst fox3 missile after the fcking update.
@baddestmove3446
3 ай бұрын
Ye dont understand it tbh, on technical terms the aam-4 should be a tad bit better than the aim-120c, but …. Gajin just doesnt linke the japanese. We have seen it with the aam-3 already, 33% more g than the 9m but it barely performs better.
@banalnapato10
3 ай бұрын
@@baddestmove3446 Nerf Thunder. The usual gaijin BS. Russian vehicles get changes for “BALANCING” while everyone gets nerfed and gaijin says “REALISM”
@n1coR
3 ай бұрын
I dont get it, how do your missiles hit at like 30km range when u dont hold the lock? Mine always miss if i dont hold the lock untill like 12-16km
@timham450
3 ай бұрын
Should I reinstall War Thunder to grind out this aircraft, because I have every aircraft in the Japanese air tech tree.
@SirMikato
3 ай бұрын
it kinda gets on my nerves that every country gets the better version of an american jet while the american variant is worse.
@Yucioq-
3 ай бұрын
Baz Meshupar is worse than the American F15 because it didn't get hmd and tws
@Yucioq-
3 ай бұрын
So basically Israel hot the worst new f15
@SirMikato
3 ай бұрын
@@Yucioq- pretty sure it has tws otherwise it cant have the derby. Cant even remember the Israels getting another f15 but thats just my brain
@SirMikato
3 ай бұрын
@@Yucioq- And it should be like that. Either same level or worse. OR have it that they have pros and cons on their own like the f15a being better in the df while the f15j has the aam3
@GeneralLee2000
3 ай бұрын
It had the PSP radar that the F-15A got this update currently, and it doesn't have Derby it has AMRAAM. Israel doesn't use Derby, like at all.
@kittyrusher242
3 ай бұрын
Dose the discount code work on Xbox 💸
@jamaga1337
3 ай бұрын
Why are you dropping flares in bvr?? Lee??
@TallyPatka-dz2cz
3 ай бұрын
He probably didn't asking it and there is a glitch which allows the ET to lock at like 20km front aspect
@jamaga1337
3 ай бұрын
@@TallyPatka-dz2cz im sure hes not looking at it.
@Yuki-lw1xr
3 ай бұрын
Grinding for this plane is making me wanna delete the game
@compmilk
3 ай бұрын
eegul
@joshuamueller3206
3 ай бұрын
Guys we are probably 1 year out from the F-117.
@maxhager4187
3 ай бұрын
First comment!
@Nitzagoat
3 ай бұрын
We need fucking 8v8 nowwww!!!!
@notafrog2040
3 ай бұрын
We need multipathing
@henri2058
3 ай бұрын
@@notafrog2040 just fly defensive lol, it's not that hard
@Bombert54
3 ай бұрын
Multipathing still works @@notafrog2040
@jordanharvey5739
3 ай бұрын
@@notafrog2040what you need is a notch and a single puff of chaff lol
@exercitus8535
3 ай бұрын
@@jordanharvey5739you can notch a single missile, but not 2 or even more of them that are coming from different angles
@Anko072
3 ай бұрын
I bet they will make some fuckery with F-15J(M)(Late) just to add separate eagle to grind AAM-5 and maybe AAM-4b. Also there was an experimental F-15 with IRST. Maybe 2 seated F-15 as premium. With all that that's 4 eagles to add to JP. But seeing how literally nothing they know about Japanese eagle variants they can come with absolutely anything tbh
@kutler-z4z
3 ай бұрын
if they ever add f15 or f16 premiums im gonna quit
@Anko072
3 ай бұрын
@@kutler-z4z Oh just you wait, they 100% will
@EpicenterGaming-gg
3 ай бұрын
@ 5:49 you can see he hit aeroturtle!
@GeneralLee2000
3 ай бұрын
Oh lol, I didn't realize
@AeroTurtle
3 ай бұрын
I got got xDD Good stuff GeneralLee
@EpicenterGaming-gg
3 ай бұрын
no way both my fave youtubers replied to my comment WOOOOO
@GeneralLee2000
3 ай бұрын
@@AeroTurtle hahaha, good luck with that Su-27SM. F-15 SWEEPS
@rickdubbink
3 ай бұрын
@@GeneralLee2000 i've been loving the SM, but personally I still find the R-27ER the best missile in 90% of cases. It's just so OP still, especially now multipathing is at 60m
@derritter3873
3 ай бұрын
While I do find the F-15C MSIP US Flag skin to be pretty cool, I will always love all the liverys that the JASDF gives their jets. All I want is the 305th Squadron 50th Anniversary F-15J Livery. Also still waiting for the AAM-4 fix as it is definitely not worth using right now as it sucks. A lot.
@pigs2001
3 ай бұрын
Should give the new tornado a try, excellent radar + the performance forces you to fly in a way that keeps you alive in the current meta
@halolong5461
3 ай бұрын
Ok Weeb F-15
@suzybean13
3 ай бұрын
Wassup lee? I’m good, thanks tho! (I hate anything above 12.0)
@GeneralLee2000
3 ай бұрын
Haha, I can't blame you 🤣
@suzybean13
3 ай бұрын
@@GeneralLee2000 it’s gotten so chaotic that even 12.0 seems nice now
@user-Xx0xxxxx
3 ай бұрын
TBF, there are some options we could get aside from the JSI. Firstly is 12-8928, the IRST test bed, then there's Improved self defense F-15J(M)s like 32-8942 which have a more advanced IEWS, there was an ADTW one i forgot the airframe number for which was used for testing some IRST/ECM pods
@killzor7714
3 ай бұрын
its funny how America never gets the best version of their own jet ayy
@Gibbo263
3 ай бұрын
Just a shame that top tier is rammed full of cheaters
@rodneycook3674
3 ай бұрын
Man I just don’t wanna grind Japan. They just need more stuff for it to be worth it. Israeli f15 will have todo for me.
@DarkLighting115
3 ай бұрын
Flying in the Smt in this update it much painfull than before
@normallymute0131
3 ай бұрын
Yeah…the best version of US planes are never in the American tech tree
@House_of_Schmidt
3 ай бұрын
It's too bad War Thunder's game modes suck.
@MD-wn4ui
3 ай бұрын
Classic war thunder, the United States getting the worst versions of its own planes.
@ferrous3262
3 ай бұрын
a very small difference not a problem
@moose8128
3 ай бұрын
They don’t have the best F-16 either, French tree does 😂😂 So dumb
@Ifuckinghatesarhs
3 ай бұрын
Yeah. At least it won't happen with the F-22 tho If they add it
@DeadSkyWT
3 ай бұрын
Very small difference. Minute. Don’t worry.
@jacobbaumgardner3406
3 ай бұрын
@@DeadSkyWT it actually has the worst climb rate of the 3, and it’s a big difference.
@ArmaBulgarian
3 ай бұрын
so, when are we gonna get a video on the F-16AM
@wtf27pl12
3 ай бұрын
waiting for aam4 to be fixed
@iedsurvivor4665
3 ай бұрын
now thanks to fox 3's im going to sleep with rwr in my ear
@GeneralLee2000
3 ай бұрын
😴
@WestwindKestrel
3 ай бұрын
Lee the type of guy who likes his F-15 just like his women.
@GeneralLee2000
3 ай бұрын
Without extra weight yeah 🤣
@WestwindKestrel
3 ай бұрын
@@GeneralLee2000 Haha, I actually meant japanese, but that works too
@randomowykolegazinternetu
3 ай бұрын
I prefer F15C SIMP 2
@ferrous3262
3 ай бұрын
would the J get Bol pods in the future
@GeneralLee2000
3 ай бұрын
Probably not, they didn't buy them. Unless Gaijin pulls a funny which is possible.
@emonster317
3 ай бұрын
No hornet
@GeneralLee2000
3 ай бұрын
HAH
@Joey_Liu
3 ай бұрын
New eagle means new players looking to General Lee for awesome advice! Love your content and my AV8B!!!!
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