Another thought provoking message Terry. Thanks for sharing and carring.
@tjmacvintagecardsnostalgia648
12 күн бұрын
Thanks Dan! Our feelings can be complicated.
@unc23sports
9 күн бұрын
Always enjoy hearing your commentary, Terry. HUGE loss in the world of baseball with the passing of Pete Rose. Thanks for sharing your fandom and thoughts with us. Take care, my friend
@tjmacvintagecardsnostalgia648
9 күн бұрын
Thanks Dre! It was a huge loss. Rose is a baseball legend who was maybe the most popular baseball player in the 1970s. You're making me want to go to Disney in those videos. The food looks delicious. Lol.
@unc23sports
6 күн бұрын
@tjmacvintagecardsnostalgia648 Mrs. Diaz says you gotta go with the family! It's the BEST!
@tjmacvintagecardsnostalgia648
4 күн бұрын
@@unc23sports she is right. We do. It has been a long time since my wife and I went, and the kids have never gone.
@kenscardboard
12 күн бұрын
Life is messy. No one is perfect and we all make mistakes. When someone is in the limelight, it all gets magnified to the public. The court of public opinion seems to be worse than actual sometimes. Great players and cards Terry. I got to see McGwire play a several times before 1992 in person. Was thrilled to actually get a batting practice HR of his back in the late 80’s Thanks for sharing.
@tjmacvintagecardsnostalgia648
12 күн бұрын
Thank you, Ken. I took a few days to really think about how I wanted to talk about the differences between nostalgia and history. Of course, most of our collections contain cards that evoke both. Collecting itself is nostalgic for many of us. That is awesome you saw McGWIRE play in 92. My wife (fiancé at the time) saw him in 97 in Toronto before he was traded to the Cardinals. He hit a home run and two doubles. One of best live baseball games I ever saw. Have a great week!
@scottmaz2428
12 күн бұрын
Roberto and Pete were my 2 childhood heros. Well said and well done Terry. Enjoyed
@tjmacvintagecardsnostalgia648
12 күн бұрын
Thanks Scott! Pete was the ultimate competitor.
@BaseisBeautiful
12 күн бұрын
Man, I don’t think anyone makes me as excited about collecting as your videos do. Just seeing those graded 87 Donruss Puckett and 84 Donruss Rose-non-rookies and non-discussed cards both-makes me feel like there’s a whole world of collecting that I’m just beginning to scratch the surface of with my own collection. I mean that sincerely. I really love and look forward to your reflections and the card choices you make on your videos. Maybe it’s the personal nature of it alongside the historical context and the bigger picture of the hobby’s big “chase cards”. That you have OJ’s rookie alongside his 1979 49ers card. The fact that you didn’t pull out a rookie card for Puckett or Rose or McGwire. Awesome stuff. Keep it up. 🙂
@tjmacvintagecardsnostalgia648
11 күн бұрын
I really appreciate the nice comment. You put a smile on my face knowing my videos get you excited about the hobby. Yeah, you won’t hear much analysis of condition and prices unless I am making a point to educate those watching. I tend to mention it a little more with hockey, football and magazines which are not as widely collected. There are so many fun ways to collect. I have been doing it as an adult for over 25 years and I have only taken a few short breaks. I love it. Thanks again. I subbed your channel this morning. All the best, Terry
@BaseisBeautiful
11 күн бұрын
@@tjmacvintagecardsnostalgia648 I am a little over 2 years into my collecting journey and am learning new things all the time. I believe I am refining my approach and finding what I truly enjoy as well.
@PickerJimS
11 күн бұрын
Hi Terry! I completely agree with you! In the innocence of my youth my sports heroes were like gods, in my mind they could do no wrong. As I got older I realized that they are human and have flaws like everyone else. I learned that I can appreciate and respect a player for what he did on the field while at the same time not like him for who he is or what he’s done off the field. You gave some great examples with Rose, Puckett, OJ and McGwire, of course there are many more. These guys provided a lifetime of memories to a countless number of people, that should not be forgotten! Enjoyed as always my friend!
@undraftedplayer
10 күн бұрын
Great comment Jim, totaly agree with you at 100 %.
@tjmacvintagecardsnostalgia648
10 күн бұрын
Well stated Jim! It can be tough seeing your hero’s flaws. McGwire hit the hardest for me. I will always have fond memories of watching him play through out my Junior and High School years and then the home run chase the year I got married. So many good memories. You’re right they should not be forgotten. Thanks for sharing.
@vintageonvintage817
11 күн бұрын
Well said Terry. For me this really hits home with OJ and McGwire. I actually watched OJ play at USC and he was by far my favorites football player growing up. I still believe he was the best RB I ever saw play. With his acting and commercials he was larger than life. He is important for me to have in my collection although I sometimes feel Guilty collecting him, I was living in the Bay Area when McGwire broke into the majors and he quickly became one of my favorite players. He was one of those players that lived in the area and you could see out and about occasionally. He was always pleasant to fans, I even know of a story where he went out of his way to give my old bosses son an autograph when he was to shy to approach him. McGwire and Sosa’s home run chase brought baseball back to life and helped draw a younger audiences back to the game. I believe that players like McGwire, Bonds and Clemens belong in the Hall of Fame. We just shouldn’t ignore a whole era of baseball and its best players. I continue to enjoy those players in my collection. As you can see this topic hit home with me, well done, thanks for sharing!
@tjmacvintagecardsnostalgia648
10 күн бұрын
Hi Steve! I didn’t know you watched O.J. play at USC. He was an incredible talent and defined the 1970s more than any other football player. While it’s a bit uncomfortable to celebrate him in my collection, I can’t tell the story of the '70s without including him. That’s why I added his Topps run from 1970 to 1979. Thank you for sharing your experiences with McGwire, especially how he treated his fans. The story about him going out of his way to sign an autograph for your former boss's son is fantastic. McGwire holds a special place in my heart too-he was my favorite player from 7th grade through high school, and the home run race with Sosa happened the year I got married. He’s been a huge part of my love for baseball. While I hate that these players used steroids, I do agree that some of them deserve to be in the Hall of Fame. It’s a complicated issue. Thanks for the great comment, and I hope you enjoy the rest of your week.
@Hodges1455
12 күн бұрын
Gave a video like. Enjoyed hearing your perspective on some of sports controversial figures. It's all part of the history of the game and the history of the players who played them. All history should be remembered. Not just the inspiring or the warm and fuzzy parts. Our PC's are our personal collections in which we have personal connections, memories and stories of. Love how you collect. Another great video, Terry.
@tjmacvintagecardsnostalgia648
12 күн бұрын
Hi Brian. Well stated! You’re right that our personal collections often reflect our memories and experiences. We may also want to include that players because they tell the story of the period we collect. Thanks for sharing your thoughts.
@the_card_closet
11 күн бұрын
Thanks, Terry. I always enjoy hearing your thoughts.
@tjmacvintagecardsnostalgia648
10 күн бұрын
Thanks Eric! I am happy to hear that.
@Dcollection
11 күн бұрын
Hi Terry! The whole video was well said. Puckett was the first baseball player I learned the name of and instantly bonded my dad and I. As you know I was a huge McGwire fan. Both individuals meant so much to my childhood and both let me down when the stories came to light while I was in college. I’ve come back around on both (mostly McGwire). My first introduction to OJ was “the chase” I was 8 years old. I like his cards but it’s definitely different learning about someone’s playing career after you learned about his criminal career. Same with Rose. Really enjoyed. I’m glad you decided to do a video this week on this topic. Hope you have a great week.
@tjmacvintagecardsnostalgia648
10 күн бұрын
Thanks Andy! McGwire hit hardest for me too. I have also come to appreciate him more again. Time can make things more easier to forgive. He gave me too many great memories from Jr High through my first few years of marriage. Of course, OJ is the toughest to reconcile in my mind. I have his player run in Topps because I collect that era and he is a huge part of it. Rose I began to feel sorry for in some ways. Initially, I didn’t think he should be in the HOF but he has paid too big a price in my mind. Thanks for sharing your thoughts. Take care
@RipFan8
11 күн бұрын
Hi Terry. Another excellent story, which we all can relate to. Thanks for sharing my friend, talk soon pal.
@tjmacvintagecardsnostalgia648
11 күн бұрын
Thanks Stephen! I hope all is well, my friend.
@DoubleDvintagebaseballcards
12 күн бұрын
Amazing Thoughts Terry well said ❤❤❤
@tjmacvintagecardsnostalgia648
12 күн бұрын
Thanks Dylan!
@warrendinCLE
12 күн бұрын
You tell one helluva story Terry! So eloquent. The '87 Puckett is a true favorite of mine. Rose was always inspiring to me because of the way he played. Just well said all around. Thank you!! Yes certain things can be tainted but I prefer to let the good memories of what happened on the field shine brighter than the bad. I. Feel the same about Omar Vizquel
@tjmacvintagecardsnostalgia648
12 күн бұрын
Thanks Warren. Collecting cards means you’re likely going to have some controversial figure in your collection. It doesn’t mean we approve of their actions but they are part of the history of the game and we may also have fond memories of them. Omar is a good example.
@AngryOldManTTM
10 күн бұрын
Great video Terry. I remember how Mark McGwire was becoming like Dave Kingman. It was always hard for me to learn that my idols as a kid were human when I found out that they had human flaws. Pete Rose may have not been the most talented player but he got everything and more out of what he had. Thanks for sharing.
@tjmacvintagecardsnostalgia648
7 күн бұрын
Thanks Ed. It's funny you remember McGwire heading towards being the next Dave Kingman too. There are a lot worse players than Dave Kingman but it felt like McGwire was a much better hitter than that. You're right about Pete Rose getting every ounce of talent of himself. He was special. Have a great weekend.
@ACollectorsDream
12 күн бұрын
Thanks for bringing back memories. Great video, thanks again for sharing
@tjmacvintagecardsnostalgia648
12 күн бұрын
Thanks Orlando
@BecauseImCarlos
12 күн бұрын
Well done and well stated. Appreciate the thought that went into this one
@tjmacvintagecardsnostalgia648
12 күн бұрын
Thanks Carlos! I am glad you enjoyed it.
@zachandporter
8 күн бұрын
Another great video. Hard for us kids to leave about some of our heroes aren’t pure. I remember that Big MaC SI
@tjmacvintagecardsnostalgia648
8 күн бұрын
So true, Zach. That is a great cover. I have more fond memories of McGwire than any other player.
@davidkinsaul5651
12 күн бұрын
Good words, sir. I am a probation officer, who has a caseload of about 90 people. My case load is mostly drug offenders. I supervise some really great people, who have done some stupid stuff. I also supervise very violent people and people in between. I tend to remember that people are usually categorized by what they did on their worst days and, in all honesty, those days don't typically define who they are on the rest of their days. I struggle with this on another level as well, being a Brett Favre fan. I loved his play and, towards the end, didn't judge him for his controversies. The difficult times are when they continue and one no longer wants to spend the energy of juggling all of the details. We sometimes forget our heroes are humans as well.
@tjmacvintagecardsnostalgia648
12 күн бұрын
Thanks, David, for sharing your experiences as a probation officer. It sounds like you are empathetic and fair-minded, which makes you well-suited for that position. I was a little hesitant to share this video, especially the OJ portion, because of the sensitivity of the subject. However, I wanted to highlight that nostalgia is complicated; I have memories of collecting OJ cards, regardless of his later actions. Having his cards is part of my memories and my celebration of the game. I haven’t built a shrine to him. Brett Favre is a good example of this, too. He has done a lot of good and was an outstanding player, but you’re right-his legacy has become complicated
@undraftedplayer
10 күн бұрын
Great video Terry ! The athletes are some humans at all, with all the good and bad things can happen in Life. Thanks you my friend for sharing this great video and Happy Collecting.
@tjmacvintagecardsnostalgia648
10 күн бұрын
Thanks Fabien! Age and experience help you realize athletes have their struggles too.
@4softcorners728
10 күн бұрын
This was a great and thought provoking topic Terry. As we grow older we definitely learn that our heroes weren’t perfect and we were probably pretty naive or unaware of a lot of their transgressions. I give Mickey Mantle a lot of credit. He was a hero to so many kids in the 50s and 60s and even later on because of parents passing down his legendary feats. But he was vocal about how he shouldn’t be a role model and how he wasted a lot of his talent that he was gifted with. Admitting that is not something you see often and I think in that sense he redeemed himself in a lot of ways and truly became someone wise to look up to
@tjmacvintagecardsnostalgia648
6 күн бұрын
Thanks Joe! It’s funny-I was going to use Mantle as an example in this video but decided to go with players who were either still playing or frequently on television, like OJ. Ted Williams said it best about Mantle: “He was the most humble man he ever met in sports.” One of the reasons Mantle is so beloved is because he admitted his flaws and was self-deprecating. Well said about him. Thanks for sharing your thoughts, Joe. Enjoy the rest of your weekend!
@godisgreat8462
12 күн бұрын
Well done
@tjmacvintagecardsnostalgia648
12 күн бұрын
@@godisgreat8462 Thansk GiG!
@CraigsCards62
12 күн бұрын
Great video Terry, great contrast between nostalgia and history 👍
@tjmacvintagecardsnostalgia648
12 күн бұрын
Thanks Pastor Craig! I appreciate it.
@whitesoxfancardcollector
12 күн бұрын
This video definitely captures the struggle we all have reconciling the lives of our hero’s as we age. Well done.
@tjmacvintagecardsnostalgia648
11 күн бұрын
Thanks Mitchell. It was a challenging topic that really got me thinking. I am glad you can relate to it.
@stuke1976
8 күн бұрын
Enjoyed the video and commentary Terry! Whether people believe what they say Puckett did or not, his image was tarnished.
@tjmacvintagecardsnostalgia648
7 күн бұрын
Thanks Scott! I agree Puckett’s image has been tarnished. Will never know the full truth.
@CleanCheapShots
12 күн бұрын
I have the SI you showed in today's video. If I remember correctly, when McGwire approached management after hitting .201 and offered to give some money back. Do you recall that at all? Growing up in Buffalo, I can't imagine what kids went through when they learned of the OJ controversy. Well done.
@tjmacvintagecardsnostalgia648
11 күн бұрын
Thanks Drew! That is a great cover. McGwire had an intimidating presence that year. The baby face was gone. I have heard that about him wanting to give money back. I wasn’t sure if it was that season or when he was hurt in 93 and 94. Yeah, the OJ news was a shocker. He was revered in this community and along with Dominik Hasek, they were the two greatest athletes to play here. At least in my opinion.
@backtothecardboard
12 күн бұрын
Pete embodied what it meant to play with heart! He was flawed, but aren’t we all? It’s sad he was so harshly punished his entire post baseball life. 😢 Great video my friend.
@tjmacvintagecardsnostalgia648
12 күн бұрын
Hey Shannon, yes, we are. There is a price to pay for our actions but for some it seems too large. I do believe that Rose left this planet missing the one thing that he wanted most - a plaque in Cooperstown. He certainly could of done some things differently but I also think the HOF is better with him in it.
@backtothecardboard
12 күн бұрын
@@tjmacvintagecardsnostalgia648 for sure.
@RickAcostaDodgerCardCollector
7 күн бұрын
Terry: This was a great topic and the players you discussed were definitely kind of "the rise and fall" variety. While I will say OJ Simpson is arguably the best running back I ever saw play and was my hero at 10 years old. I had his cards, posters on the wall, If he was on TV, I wanted to see him, I went to go see Towering Inferno at the movies, but what eventually happened years later was tough to accept. I didn't want to believe it at first. Now I rarely think of him. The other guys while I wasn't fond of them entirely (Kirby was ok), it's still sad to see what happened to them (along with Rafael Palmiero) and how they go from legend to the white elephant in the room that no one wants to talk to or invite to a reunion. It's just society's nature I guess. I had some nice OJ cards in the 70s. The man just didn't take a bad photo either. Thanks for sharing, Terry!
@tjmacvintagecardsnostalgia648
6 күн бұрын
Thanks Rick! It is sad to see some of the best players of the 80s and 90s on steroids. I have a soft spot in my heart for McGwire because he brought me more joy to watch than any other baseball player, which made it hard when it came out. I didn’t realize you were that big a fan of OJ growing up. He was an incredible running back and arguably the football player that defined the 70s. What happened with the murders just seems unreal given the OJ we saw on tv. I still have memories of him growing up that I cannot erase and as a collector of the history of the game, I want his cards in my collection. I know some don’t agree with that but to each their own/ Thanks for sharing your thoughts. Congrats to the Dodgers. Great game last night.
@SouvenirProgramsHere
12 күн бұрын
Howdy Terry ! Great Show, nicely written and well said TJ. When we saw O.J. in the Bronco, Me and my buddy both knew OJ was guilty of whatever he had done and one of my Childhood heroes was no longer. His RC card is one of my favorite football cards that I have period. And I dont like head shots. His 76 topps is another fave as is his 74 Record Breaker card. He was something else to watch. As for Pete, gambling and sports go hand in hand. Steroids, corked bats, thats cheating. The fact Barry Bonds HR Record is acknowledged as fact and Pete is not in the Hall seems wrong to me. Really glad you did the Show. Excellent ! C ya !
@tjmacvintagecardsnostalgia648
12 күн бұрын
Hey Tom! I am glad you enjoyed the video. Thanks for sharing your experience with the Bronco chase. It really was a surreal moment. I thought he was going to kill himself. I like headshots more than you but that one really stands out. It is a classic image and a card I never thought I would own as a kid. I like his 74 to 76 cards best. It is interesting how much the major sports have cozied up to the gambling industry on recent years. It is now mainstream. I don’t approve of Rose’s actions but he has paid too big a price. He should be in the HOF. Thanks for sharing your opinion and always being a straight shooter. Have a great week, my friend.
@vintagecardssteve8582
11 күн бұрын
Great review and thoughts on McGwire, Puckett and Rose. McGwire was a player that i completely was all in on when i was a kid. Enjoyed Pucketts game too. Love the thoughts about OJ Simpson. Man i remember the murder trial and the Bronco chase like it was yesterday. From the highlights i have seen what a tremendous athlete and player. A future hobby talk video i want to do is about P Diddy and the athletes who are connected to attending his parties. Might be rough waters with that one and peoples reactions. Always enjoy.
@tjmacvintagecardsnostalgia648
11 күн бұрын
Thanks Steve! Collecting can be complicated sometimes. I want those players in my collection because I revere the history of the sports I collect. These men also gave me good memories. OJ is the toughest one to reconcile in my mind because of what he is believed to have done, but he is part of the story of the NFL and my childhood. I am not condoning his behavior by having his cards. I look forward to your hobby talk if you decide to do it. I noticed I lost three or four subscribers after doing this video. Haha. Not that I actively seek them but I am grateful when people do watch and subscribe, but I want them to want to do it. Take care
@The_Cincinnati_Kid
11 күн бұрын
Hi Terry. Had to think about this one a bit before responding. First, awesome tribute to Rose. My progression of thoughts about him charted a very similar path as yours. It was interesting when the feeling sorry for him was brought up. Very much my progression went from contempt for lying about his betting on baseball and tax evasion to at the end feeling sorry for him. I think about seeing what he went through when he added „I’m sorry I bet on baseball“ to his autographs to make a little extra money. That was my high point of contempt for him. But Love him or hate him, that had to be tough on him. Then it dawned on me one day. How lucky have I been? I’ve never had to do that „hustle“ to make a living. I don’t mean hustling around on a field of play, but hustling others to make a buck. And I feel that’s what his whole life after being banned from baseball was like for him. And how lucky I’ve been to not have to live that way. Kirby Puckett is another. It’s so easy for society as a whole to condemn bad conduct. However, none of us are without some fault and should not be judging others. When he lost his eyesight. Which made him such a great hitter. Again, I felt big time sorry for him. With OJ, everybody loved him until he acted on his demons. Indeed he was guilty, but I feel his on field accomplishments should be separate from the crimes. McGuire for me is the toughest. I’ve been very careful on my channel not to comment on PED use with this era of players. So what I will say is I’m glad you are able to remember the good with the bad with all these players. I think that’s very true of life as well. Im very much someone who has let things disappoint me in life, because of holding that person place or institution to such high standards. When in fact it’s just not realistic. The only one I hurt was myself. In living a life of disappointment for many years. Most my own failures. Maybe that’s what getting older is good for. Although disappointments will continue I won’t continue dwelling on and re-living them. Having some joy from the good memories and times. Thanks for sharing and have a great week!
@tjmacvintagecardsnostalgia648
10 күн бұрын
Hi CK, You make a great point about Rose "hustling" to make a living. While he certainly didn't help his own case for the reasons I mentioned, among others, it’s clear that he didn’t have an easy path. Being the all-time hit king and a popular player earned him a lot of money, and there’s nothing wrong with that. It’s unfortunate he’s paid such a steep price. I admit I'm not an expert on Puckett’s life, but what happened to him was tragic. Sadly, the controversies in his life tarnished his image to some extent. As you said, it’s not for us to judge, but it’s hard to ignore. I debated about including Simpson in this video, and I’m more conflicted about collecting him than any other player, so I wanted to share that. I have his complete Topps run from 1970 to 1979, but that’s mainly because I collected the key cards from those sets, and he was one of them. O.J. was arguably the most important football player of the 1970s, and you can’t tell the story of football from that era without him. I also have fond memories of collecting his cards growing up. That doesn’t mean I condone his actions, which, of course, I don’t. McGwire holds the warmest memories for me, as he was my favorite player during my teenage years. His steroid use was disappointing, but I still enjoy having his cards in my collection. Thanks, CK, for sharing your thoughts on these players.
@The_Cincinnati_Kid
10 күн бұрын
@@tjmacvintagecardsnostalgia648 I just want to clarify. When I mentioned not judging I meant societal judging not you. I’m sorry if that wasn’t clear. In case you felt I was suggesting that, I didn’t think your comments were judgmental at all. Some People are quick to run away from someone at the first sign of trouble. I’m glad you didn’t. I know a lot of people that got rid of their OJ cards afterwards. Everyone loved OJ before the murders. He was revered. Even after his playing days, I enjoyed watching him in movies and on NBC football coverage. I’m glad you are able to share his cards and bring forth the good memories. In these current times, we need all the good memories we can get. In fact I’m going to try to acquire an OJ card now.
@tjmacvintagecardsnostalgia648
9 күн бұрын
@@The_Cincinnati_Kid Hey CK! No need to clarify-I didn’t take it that way at all. A few people have mentioned that they are turned off by OJ's cards, and I respect that. But at the same time, I hope those same people can understand why I own them. I can't tell the story of the NFL from that era in my collection without OJ He was also someone I grew up watching. That doesn’t mean I condone or glorify what he did after his career. Of course, I don't. They’re football cards that reflect an era I enjoy collecting, not a shrine to Simpson. And yes, I’ll still watch The Naked Gun too.
@The_Cincinnati_Kid
9 күн бұрын
@@tjmacvintagecardsnostalgia648 well said!
@vintagesanctuary
3 күн бұрын
Terry, I'm late to the party, but such a great message in this video! I have thought similarly about presidents. We don't have to either declare them saints or the devil. They can be flawed, sometimes very flawed in certain areas, but also may have done some great good for many people. Such an important message in your video. A message that I think we would all do well to contemplate and embrace! 😊👊
@tjmacvintagecardsnostalgia648
19 сағат бұрын
Thanks Adam! You’re never late to the party. There is always a spot for you. So true about our presidents. I am glad you can relate to where I am coming from. We collect the cards but by extension we collect the people on them, and that is where it can become complicated. I want my collection to be a reflection of the players I either watched or learned about growing up. I appreciate you sharing your thoughts. Have a great weekend!
@davidm686
12 күн бұрын
All very well said. Mac and Sammy brought me back into watching after the strike. I’ll also never ever forget watching the oj chase and the Knicks v Rockets simultaneously. I was too young to watch his career and he was always Nordberg from Naked Gun to me. Was still so incredibly shocking. As for Pete..I know what he did was wrong but I’ve always thought he has been too harshly punished. I can understand the steroid guys not getting in. But if there’s no proof that Rose gambled on games he had an impact on, then I don’t understand why he never got in. Regardless, our heroes are all human and their mistakes are in the spotlight where as ours can hide in the shadows.
@tjmacvintagecardsnostalgia648
11 күн бұрын
Hi David, Well stated about Pete and our heroes. I think he should be in the Hall too. For awhile, I didn’t think so, but we need to forgive and move on. The HOF is better with him in there. Besides baseball and other sports have openly embraced gambling and it’s only a matter of time before some type of scandal is going to happen. They are just too cozy with it and there is so much money floating around. I hope I am wrong. Thanks for sharing your thoughts and memories.
@beansballcardblog
11 күн бұрын
I don't know that anyone could have said it better.
@tjmacvintagecardsnostalgia648
11 күн бұрын
Thanks Kin! I am glad it resonated.
@beansballcardblog
11 күн бұрын
@@tjmacvintagecardsnostalgia648 it absolutely does
@raiderslakersfan7518
12 күн бұрын
I can remember the oj ford bronco night, i was watching nba that night. Pete Rose is a top 10 baseball player that made a mistake. Should be a hofer. The Mark and Sosa homerun brought me back to baseball, i whould work over night and every morning waited for home run update on sports center. Mark Sosa Clemens and Bonds should all be in the hall. They changed the sport for the good and not worst. Man baseball didn't even have a ban at the time
@tjmacvintagecardsnostalgia648
12 күн бұрын
I am with you on the McGWIRE and Sosa chase. It was a lot of fun. I got married that year and we were watching it daily; even our honeymoon. The steroid era is messy and it is difficult to know who did and didn’t. I am sure there are users in the HOF who didn’t.
@amihays7449
12 күн бұрын
When someone takes another’s life i have to draw a line.
@tjmacvintagecardsnostalgia648
12 күн бұрын
I understand why you feel that way. Thanks for the comment.
@amihays7449
12 күн бұрын
@@tjmacvintagecardsnostalgia648 Normally i like ur videos very much
@tjmacvintagecardsnostalgia648
12 күн бұрын
@@amihays7449 I appreciate that. Thank you.
@jga59
11 күн бұрын
Hey Terry. You touch on a lot of things here. Ultimately, everyone is a human being, and when we grow up, the idealization we had about certain people is probably going to be challenged. But for me with certain players, their flaws add depth and dimension to them, making them true human beings. With a player like Mickey Mantle, knowing about his upbringing and the things he had to deal with, things that were brought out in Jane Leavy's book, only caused me to empathize with and admire him even more than I had previously. I think it was Will Rogers who said, "It's great to be great, but it's greater to be human." Regarding Pete Rose, I think he more than paid for his crime. Alex Karras and Paul Hornung were suspended by Pete Rozelle in the early 1960s for gambling but were only suspended for a year. I understand why Commissioner Landis laid down the law after the Black Sox scandal, which was really only the tip of the gambling iceberg at the time. But the hypocrisy over keeping Rose out of the game, when every other commercial on TV during a sporting event is about gambling, what MLB did to Rose just plain sucks. Pete Rose was a scrapper and a fighter. He was raw meat. He was a driven human being, and it's very easy to see how his intensity could lead to a gambling problem/addiction. Watching his last interview where he is talking about maybe still having a chance to be reinstated is heartbreaking. With guys who were guilty of violence, I'm certainly not going to for instance, ever begin an O.J. run. But I could see getting a couple of his cards to complete some sets. He's an historical figure. I'm not going to not read a book about WWll because it mentions the Nazis. Simpson's was truly a tragic downfall. And all arrows point in the direction of him having truly committed a real crime. If the little boy who grew up watching him had his heart broken, well there just isn't much anybody can do about that. All we can do is learn, understand, and try to make our way the best we can.
@tjmacvintagecardsnostalgia648
10 күн бұрын
Hi Gannon, Thanks for sharing the Will Rogers quote. I hadn’t heard that one before, and it’s very apropos when talking about childhood heroes. I almost used Mantle since he’s someone I’ve admired since I was a child, but I didn’t actively see him play like the other players I mentioned. Even though I didn’t see OJ play, he was always on television when I was growing up, and of course, he was beloved in the Buffalo area before the murders. I have his player run because I collect football cards from that era, and no football player from the '70s was bigger than OJ. I’m not completely comfortable having his cards in my collection because I can’t separate the thoughts of what he most likely did. But the cards in my collection aren’t glorifying his behavior-they’re recognizing his football achievements and the positive memories I have of him from childhood. I really considered not including him in this video, but I figured we’re all adults and can discuss the thoughts that run through our heads as collectors. We don’t all have to agree. When it comes to Pete Rose, I agree that the punishment feels disproportionate, especially when viewed against today’s gambling-saturated sports culture. Rose’s raw intensity and his struggles with addiction do make him a tragic figure in many ways, and seeing him pass away still hoping for reinstatement is sad. In the end, as you said so well, all we can do is learn, understand, and navigate these stories with the awareness that every person, athlete or not, is imperfect. Thank you for sharing your reflections.
@jga59
9 күн бұрын
@@tjmacvintagecardsnostalgia648 I can see you completing the O.J. run because your collecting style of obtaining what you call the key cards in each set, would demand it. And hey, if someone wants to collect all of O.J.'s cards, ultimately it's nobody else's business. I could see someone who was once a big fan of his doing so, while as an adult lamenting him and what used to be, after his downfall.
@tjmacvintagecardsnostalgia648
8 күн бұрын
@@jga59 Gannon, that is exactly right. How and why you collect is personal. In this instance, I've shared my thoughts, so I expect to receive opinions in return, and I respect that some people may not want his cards
@marksantucci4230
10 күн бұрын
Sad to hear about number 14!!! nice 1984 Donruss , Nice 1987 Puckett Donruss , So Mcgwire was your favorite player after Mr. October retired I want to say mine is either Mattingly , Ripken or Boggs I haven't picked one yet!!! nice 1970 card of OJ I think this is the wrong title what do you think about this title behind the cards? did you ever see that show weekly behind the music it was that VH! show where they would document a top band and go behind the Music like Def Leppard , Judas Priest , Styx ect this video is a carbon copy behind the cards or behind the athlete? so which are your favorite players ranking from least favorite to favorite for their on the field greatness to there behind the Athlete what they did off the field? Shoeless Joe Jackson coopers town visits count book reading ect Pete Rose Mark Mcgwire the Not Homerun king Barry Bonds Oj Simpson
@tjmacvintagecardsnostalgia648
7 күн бұрын
Hi Mark, Mattingly, Ripken and Boggs are three good ones for a favorite during that time. Mattingly was my second favorite after McGwire. Behind the cards is a good title. Yes, I do remember Behind the Music. It has been a long time since I have seen those. Do you mean overall favorites or of the players I chose in this video? Thanks!
@marksantucci4230
6 күн бұрын
@@tjmacvintagecardsnostalgia648 yeah like first place to 5th place if you only have time for the players you showed in the video I understand but if you want to add in Bonds and Shoeless plus the other and do 5 that's fine by me whatever you have time for.
@TonyBlack574
12 күн бұрын
If oj donated his brain I wonder what they would have found
@tjmacvintagecardsnostalgia648
12 күн бұрын
@@TonyBlack574 who knows with the beating he took.
@mikethesportshistorycollec1947
9 күн бұрын
I just have such a hard time wanting to collect anything O.J. Simpson. The others I can deal with (I guess we really don't know how strokes affected Puckett's behavior), but O.J. was a cold blooded killer. Just gives me the creeps looking at his cards.
@tjmacvintagecardsnostalgia648
9 күн бұрын
Understood. Thanks Mike!
@raiderslakersfan7518
12 күн бұрын
The hall should remember them as a player and not as a person. Because were all human even superstars. Half the hall is full of alcoholics, drug users , criminal records and thats ok.
@tjmacvintagecardsnostalgia648
12 күн бұрын
Yes, the Hall of Fame should leave personal misdeeds out of it.
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