that kid was a few steps ahead of the deegans. they entered a pro build star yamaha in an amateur competition and they overlooked the rule where the bike can be bought by a competitor. the deegans knew that star yamaha wouldnt be happy with them for letting their secret tech out in public so they bullied their way to override the rules.
@kurtnielsen6684
2 ай бұрын
To this day, they should have a bigger blackeye than they do because I don’t know what that kid ever got. Hopefully Yamaha gave him a brand new motorcycle for it, but I’m sure they didn’t.
@OtisFlint
2 ай бұрын
@@kurtnielsen6684 Lol, not only did he get nothing, but his main sponsor was also a Yamaha dealer and dropped him due to pressure from Star and potential Yamaha corporate.
@brandon_doe
2 ай бұрын
Yet it’s a mod class and they can enter the bike. The rule isn’t a “set in stone” deal. It can be overturned as it happened there
@kr94.
2 ай бұрын
I see what yall are saying, but still look at it from Star’s perspective. It’s dumb entering that engine, but even if it’s not a full pro build there still could be stuff they don’t want out. The kid wanted to ride a star yamaha but didn’t want work to join the team and only to snatch a bike. Who wouldn’t open the cases on that thing. I doubt it’s the same thing to what he’s riding now but still there is secrets with every team in every pit at the event. It wasnt handled professionally by anyone, but still I am sure if the same thing happened to PC kawi they’d flip out to.
@brandon_doe
2 ай бұрын
@@kr94. tbh, agreed
@gamebred5662
2 ай бұрын
I'm a huge Deegan fan. Was a fan of Brian growing up and it's super cool to see his boy following in his foot steps. And before I say what I am I'm not taking anything away from Haiden, the kids absolutely talented and has gotten much better since he started racing. That being said I'm 99.9% sure there was some funny buisness going on with that bike.
@Equinsu_Ocha
2 ай бұрын
Letting that bike out would be equivalent to a juicing pro fighter taking a blood test 😂
@zlotywest860
2 ай бұрын
Nah they getting an inspection, but it's about the tech. If others get the hands on it, they can make their engine better too. Way different the other motorsports.
@whiteknight1246
2 ай бұрын
@@zlotywest860 yeah its the factory yamaha R&D ECU they dont want out. Which is why I think Brandon should have taken it, its an amature race, let good kids shine, the bikes should all be stock with exceptions to suspension, and comfort parts (handle bars, grips, pegs, seats, etc)
@kylejo96
2 ай бұрын
@@whiteknight1246it's a mod class kid
@kylejo96
2 ай бұрын
@@whiteknight1246he should have raced the stock class ya goofball
@whiteknight1246
2 ай бұрын
@@kylejo96 theres mod class and then there is a factory bike. Either way if they didnt want to lose it they shouldnt have brought it, thats what the claiming rule is for.
@scottpeeples9224
2 ай бұрын
Why are these factory bikes anywhere near an amateur race...it stinks from the top down
@bwagss5579
2 ай бұрын
Not a factory bike. They could use a part that’s in their bike that no one knows about that they use in both the amateur and pro bikes. Deegan was not even comfortable with the power of the factory bike and ran his amateur setup in his pro debut but just with black plastics.
@johnh2349
Ай бұрын
@@bwagss5579so, because they said that, you believed it? You know he was riding a 450 on the track, right? It has 20HP on a factory 250. The math ain’t mathin.
@johnh2349
Ай бұрын
You can run anything you want as long as it weighs and the displacement is under the threshold. You do stand a chance of having it claimed. That is the discouragement.
@TheWeekendOperator-tz4cy
2 ай бұрын
The Deagans are the Kardashians of moto😂
@Hunterevans15
2 ай бұрын
You’re a fucking pinhead. You act like deegan built that bike and not star Yamaha. Which nearly every top pro has gone through that team and road those bikes🤦♂️
@gtegenesis
2 ай бұрын
Why
@antiwoke884
2 ай бұрын
And you will be nothing ever more then a weekend operator
@maxrpm2215
2 ай бұрын
To right, there a circus on two wheels. It's his old man who's the DH that controls the puppet he wasn't.
@donworryboudat
2 ай бұрын
@@antiwoke884 same goes for you tho 🤔
@dynamite6507
2 ай бұрын
Don't bring the forty thousand dollar bike to a amateur race
@MWMXshow
2 ай бұрын
True
@unstoppableplayz6948
2 ай бұрын
Bingo💯👌
@jimmyzgarage5430
2 ай бұрын
In the real world outside the manufacturer it would probably cost double that.
@Mike-lv5uc
2 ай бұрын
lol he was an amateur and could afford it he set his self up to win. Don’t be mad other can’t afford it
@jimmyzgarage5430
2 ай бұрын
@@Mike-lv5uc So you're saying as long as you have enough money the rules don't apply.
@jasonlawrence6209
2 ай бұрын
There should have been no contest on that sale. The kid followed all the correct rules and had everything in order and knew what he was doing. He should have walked out with that bike and put it right in his vehicle and away he should have gone. No one being able to say a word about it.
@kurtasee2314
2 ай бұрын
I hope he sues over this! But I bet they will threat him over no sense
@robertsmith1030
2 ай бұрын
They threatened him he lost his sponsor they ruined his career over it and the deegans are shit I'll never watch ,support or recognize them in anything !! Scum and cheaters
@jeffenglish9132
2 ай бұрын
Why is this still relevant? Who cares he’s a pro now. Either way Deegan could’ve ridden anyone else’s bike on the gate that day and he would’ve won. I was there and he was on his game.
@robertrealaustralian
3 ай бұрын
I remeber this brian deegan gave the young guy a hard time over it. Asking what he wants to do with the bike and who he is and who he works for. It was crazy they certainly didn't want that bike to fall into the wrong hands.
@MyName-yl2nc
2 ай бұрын
Oh well good on Brian that kid would have lost to haiden no matter the bike
@robertrealaustralian
2 ай бұрын
@@MyName-yl2nc you obviously don't know the story. The kid wasn't a racer. Why ignorantly comment on things you know nothing about? The kid was a haiden deegan fan boy just like yourself.
@whiteknight1246
2 ай бұрын
@@robertrealaustralian no, you have to have been in the race, and you have 30 mins from the end of the race to put in a claim on a bike, and you have to pay 1.5 times MSRP, and after it was all said and done they screwed over the kid that put the claim in.
@whiteknight1246
2 ай бұрын
@@MyName-yl2ncnot good on them, they bullied the kid out of the claim, the. Yamaha went to the dealership that sponsored the kids bikes and threatened to pull the franchise rights if they continued to give him bikes.
@robertrealaustralian
2 ай бұрын
@@whiteknight1246 no anyone could claim the bike. You need to look up the rules.
@charlesshort4287
2 ай бұрын
Back in the day when I raced , all you had to do is pay $25 and you would have to take the head off of the engine so they can see that you didn't have a bigger piston in the cylinder , And it did happen, We used to have a 100CC race and people would put 125 cylinders or sleeves in them, and it happened a lot back in the day, And if it was legal they would have to pay you $100 for taking the head off, On top of the $25, I have seen the engines took apart after a mud race and dirt would get all in the engines, People just don't follow rules like they should, Star Yamaha should be banned from racing for not giving that kid the bike, It was a rule that was in stone , for anyone to us ,they knew when they went racing that it could happen, It's gonna bite them in the butt whoever was against that kid not getting the bike ,and not enforcing the rules it's gonna bite them in the butt, I'm glad people are still remembering that this took place and that it happened,
@tilled6695
2 ай бұрын
lmao, you need some mental help trying to make that work in your head jesus dudde, you weird
@fuzzymoteaux
2 ай бұрын
It was very shady indeed.
@waynesmith922
2 ай бұрын
Didn’t want people seeing their new improved muffler bearing
@donniepinnix6514
2 ай бұрын
I personally lost a lot of respect for the Deegans for doing that toward the boy who bought Deegan bike out right. The way they done in that situation the Deegan should have been ed banned from racing that year at Loretta Lynn's. It is sad the fortune they have had in racing for them to act out the way they did rules should apply for everyone including the Deegans. !!!
@user-ve6nw4jk7m
2 ай бұрын
Bash the Deegan's all you want...but not one single factory sponsored team would let go of their equipment. Don't think for a minute that they were the only ones running parts that the average racer can't get.
@pinkybrown1525
2 ай бұрын
They went after the kid and his employer. If I remember Yamaha threatened to yank the brand from the dealer he worked at. Totally bogus.
@nathanwittman9079
2 ай бұрын
Dude the way Brian bullied that kid was total B.S. I refuse to watch any of the Deegans stuff because of it. I wish they would just go fly a kite
@unstoppableplayz6948
2 ай бұрын
Same. It was at that moment I knew he was a douchebag. Lucky wasn't my kid he cornered like that. Deegans or not, he would've gotten slapped and I'd got Haidens bike thru court precedings, one way or another. Sue em all, if that's what it takes. They are trash for that, and Haidens a spoiled lil moto.kid. Yeah, he has skills, no doubt, but, His attitude sucks . Without all the money, he would not be where he is, and that's church!
@brandonmay6287
2 ай бұрын
What happened?
@faststanger1
2 ай бұрын
That kid should have stuck to his guns and not backed down. He purely wanted the bike to have a pro bike to ride. Not to use it for other interests!
@Eddiep80
2 ай бұрын
And Yamaha. They called his sponsor in Canada and said they will pull all their bikes and they will never sell any Yamaha bikes again. And the shop dropped the kid. The whole deal was fucked. So fuck Yamaha. Never giving Yamaha my business as long as I live. They fucked over that kid in a bad way
@nathanwittman9079
2 ай бұрын
It doesn't matter what his intentions are though, you have every right to claim after that person wins, now it's not a gentleman's code to claim someone's ride, but it's there to help keep everyone honest. It's total B.S. that Brian Deegan went up to that kid at all, he had no right doing that.
@justinanderson9126
2 ай бұрын
Sounds like the guy around my area had a 250 cr an beating everyone. Kept it hidden for a good time had throttle switch to hit nitrous that was hidden in the frame an small tube goin into the air box directly.
@user-ob1rk3st3t
2 ай бұрын
That kid got screwed !
@howardwest2707
2 ай бұрын
There was also supposedly more to it and it was the kids motor builder that put up the money to claim the bike. And in the end they could have still gone through with the claim no matter who said what at any given time. And it's sll conspiracies that they had something not quite right with the bike. Nothing had ever been proven. So as far as thats concerned this is all just slandering their name. Officials were all present at the time of the claim and discussions between them all.
@todddooley793
3 ай бұрын
It might just be the total expense between the ignition and gearbox. I dunno. Interesting though. Deegan was the fastest regardless.
@G-TownJoker
2 ай бұрын
Deegan is so god Damn over rated is a joke. Yeah he’s talented absolutely but he’s got nothing On Jett Danger girl Won’t win a 450 title bet
@brandon_doe
2 ай бұрын
@@G-TownJokerbro got you big mad huh
@Orangefella.801
2 ай бұрын
Im a fan of Deegans but that hole star team basically bulled and threaten that kid that was trying to claim his bike. Star racing team is a joke and i hope Jett crushing all hopes of a championship this weekend
@chadm528
2 ай бұрын
Someone gets it. It had nothing to do with deegans. That was all Star yamaha front start to finish
@chadm528
2 ай бұрын
With that said, yamaha dominated this year tho
@zacharyradford5552
2 ай бұрын
Deegans trainer threaded the kid and Brian grilled the kid.
@CRW82
2 ай бұрын
what does it mean to claim a bike?
@Orangefella.801
2 ай бұрын
@CRW82 in the amateur ranks of motocross "claiming" a bike means you can purchase that bike from said rider for double the MSRP and they rider/team has to release it for that. If you suspect somebody of cheating or running parts that nobody else has then you can "claim" the bike and take it home and tear it apart and find out for yourself
@raymcnitt9054
2 ай бұрын
It had nothing to do with Haiden. Star was mad at Brendon mechanic bc they thought he was the one telling him to claim the bike. They thought the mechanic wanted to take apart the engine to figure out what was done to it so Brendon could have it on his privateer bike. Now no one knows if that’s true or not bc the bike never got claimed. But star wasn’t happy with the mechanic and how it went down and so they swapped motors and left the bike in claims for Brenden to have it the next day but Haiden was just racing it for the next day and still won all his motos. Don’t know how star got the bike back but they managed to. And then Brendan’s was no longer sounder by his Yamaha dealer for what he had done. So it was a lot more then Deegan. It was star and Brendan’s mechanic
@fiddynutz68
2 ай бұрын
Who cares who was orchestrating it, rules are rules. Don't run it if you don't like it.
@boone172
2 ай бұрын
Deegan is a POS for taken that bike back. Ban the Deegans from everything. Period Point Blank The End
@Beenweenie669
2 ай бұрын
You tell ‘em spanky
@Shawn-ts4jw
2 ай бұрын
Huh? Got nothing to do with Deegan, not his bike, it's Star's bike.
@ScottAllenSparks
Ай бұрын
Can’t beat em, ban em. You sound like a brainwashed liberal lol
@mattjohnson1775
2 ай бұрын
That was so obvious and the pushback only made it even clearer.
@BigBird-
2 ай бұрын
Lost respect for that family. He didn’t need to have his son cheat he’s actually good enough to ride. Unlike his dad. He only could hit the same jump over and over.
@U-TubeSurfer45
28 күн бұрын
Bro they are not crazy for not wanting to let out what they have built. It's obviously legal and has been checked out to enter and race. It's new technology. They don't want the other makes learning it yet. They develop their bikes every year
@Ynot.LJ8
2 ай бұрын
You can get mad at Haiden all you want the bike ain’t even his 🤣. Talk to star Yamaha about that 💀.
@lifeisgood3589
Ай бұрын
Lol every time this Deegan bike claim pops up all the Haters show up. It's the same haters that were commenting hate for the kid before the claim thing ever happened. They have to be even more furious now that Deegan is dominating the outdoors.
@charlesshort4287
2 ай бұрын
What it is , is something so simple to make the bike go fast, that they don't wanna lose their money maker , It is something so simple and easy to do that the common Person Mechanic could do to any dirt bike, Star Yamaha just didn't wanna lose their money maker , that is probably something very easy to do, also Star Yamaha should be banned from racing for not letting that kid Claim deegan's bike and not turn it over to him, they should be banned from racing,
@microsoft790
2 ай бұрын
Deegan and his family have been caught cheating in the past they definitely cheated and got away with it.
@lifeisgood3589
Ай бұрын
Post a link to the Deegan family cheating in the past
@microsoft790
Ай бұрын
@@lifeisgood3589 you cant post links in KZitem comments but look up "deegans kid DQ'd at Oakhill" it's on vital MX. He was protested and caught running an engine that was 5% over the displacement limit.
@dynamite6507
2 ай бұрын
The kid was brought in a room without his father or anyone else and was bullied by brian and head of the moto tees who acted like a ama official
@supradrift1000
2 ай бұрын
What a load of crap. Who is just gonna hand over a bike?? The tech they have is available for anyone it’s called research and development.
@dominicklobifaro5215
2 ай бұрын
If you don’t like the rule don’t bring your pro bike to an amateur race clown
@dragbikeJimmy
2 ай бұрын
No doubt the Deegans know how to cheat
@yamahakid450f
2 ай бұрын
It's in the valve train that allows the bike to rev much higher...thats what seperated Star from the other bikes for years. Go listen to Star bike last year, it'd sound one way in sound check and on a parade lap, they'd have a start map, then the bike would sound wayyyy different furing the motos, theyd rev fo the moon, several thousand RPM over every othed bike out there...and we saw what happened with HRC whsn they started closing that gap originally, they had engines grenade outdoors 2 yeara in a row, Hunters almost did when Jetts let go 2 years ago during the same moto....Oh, as well as the ECU, it's what causes it, obviously...their valve train is just able to handle and sustain it where the other bikes couldn't at the time... If Deegans engine wasn't full factory at Lorettas, which I dont think it was, then it was mainly the ECU they didn't want to lose.. . Has nothing to do with gear boxes or anything like that... besides the valves and ECU, all the bikes are very similar and close in performance, even privateers these days through companies like twisted can make some damn powerful engines, we've seen them pull starts... the factory bikes just maintain that peak horsepower for far longer where the other bikes have signed off and needed to grab another gear long before the factory bikes need to shift.
@lnr12241
2 ай бұрын
A mechanic not wanting his little tricks and secrets out does NOT mean it's illegal. No other manufacturer is going to just let anyone tear apart their engines either
@devonmangiarelli3886
2 ай бұрын
Lol the kid shouda took the bike to Honda or KTM or Suzuki and sold it right off to them for 20 grand so the kid could make a profit everyone knows that he was cheating to
@n.w.owhoknowstheshadowknow58
2 ай бұрын
Doesn't matter if he doesn't want his tricks discovered to make sure there compliant to rules the are required to pass inspection. Others yes then know of but having the understanding and ability to duplicate is another skillset completely
@lnr12241
2 ай бұрын
If you read the stories it sounds more like it was Yamaha that put an end to this. Not the Deegans
@stevokatzzz
2 ай бұрын
The kid should have Deegans bike right now he should of put it on the trailer and took off home with it, and nobody could say a damn thing about it, Brian Deegan is a pos and his Kid better get a bigger karma soon for bullying their way out of the rules.
@TheCharillz23
2 ай бұрын
A claim is a claim. Most racing has it. Now the claim rule needs removed. Deagans have always been a joke.
@jimgoose9146
2 ай бұрын
Schofield
@PoohNoah
2 ай бұрын
Bigger piston
@lategod
2 ай бұрын
i mean it seems pretty logical not to want your bike duplicated
@kurtnielsen6684
2 ай бұрын
Then you shouldn’t write it at an amateur event because those bikes weren’t even supposed to be modified to begin with. That’s why they let people claim them.
@lategod
2 ай бұрын
@@kurtnielsen6684 everyone’s bike has mods cuz otherwise they should only allow stock bikes lol
@G-TownJoker
2 ай бұрын
@@lategodyeah but Not everyone has a factory works bike and motor. You can build your own motor all you want as long as it’s not bored or a factory build. Having a crank and piston in a bike yourself or at a shop even isn’t the same as star racing factory Yamaha building your bike. He raced the same exact set up he’s racing now
@OtisFlint
2 ай бұрын
@@lategod Thats why the claimant has to pay double MSRP. The point it to stop $50k factory bikes with unobtanium parts from entering kids races, which exactly what the Star team and the Deegans did.
@lategod
2 ай бұрын
@@G-TownJoker nah i get that and i think i wouldn’t care about the rule if it wasn’t during the season type shit so that’s why i feel like it’s pretty logical to be angry about it especially when it doesn’t happen very often
@williamstevens3191
Ай бұрын
Claiming bike has always been a rule that has been frowned upon. Just shouldn’t do it. Weather deegans bike has stuff in it or not. It’s never a good look for the person claiming the bike. Everytime other has been done the person who claimed the bike wound up just like how scoffeild did. Without a ride.
@E63s_Scott
Ай бұрын
I like Hayden he’s one hell of a rider BUT all these people sticking up for the deegans and star probably all hate the police too when they enforce the “rules” talk about picking “when it suits”. That poor kid followed the rules and got absolutely screws and his career ruined. Pure bully and loud mouth tactics from Brian and star this is what happens world wide when people with power don’t get there own way. they were 100% cheating. There was 100% factory parts not allowed on that bike in an amateur race. The injustice makes my blood boil. Also 2 grown dudes bullying a kid on his own in a dark room yikes what else went on
@barcuda1250
Ай бұрын
Its not about the rider a Yamaha guy(makes clame )made problems for the Yamaha team . And the rider did the same thing after that even if it not the full setup it is intellectual property THATS BIG. its a pro development class And many people have gone missing in other industries for IP
@Thatkidswift
Ай бұрын
It was the ecu they didn’t want out there
@valyatimtsenko
2 ай бұрын
I was just thinking about that whole situation. .he should have kept the bike. Lol. Great video. 👍
@jasonjaeger4042
2 ай бұрын
Personally I don't think someone should be allowed to claim someone else's bike is wrong, I love my bikes and they're mine. But that was fucked up amd obvious they were breaking the rules with that bike.
@MWMXshow
2 ай бұрын
It is an odd rule
@Cloudcompound
2 ай бұрын
its to keep it fair... you have to pay 1.5x the retail value I believe... its to keep 50k dirt bikes out of amateur races where most dont have a million dollar company backing them
@jasonjaeger4042
2 ай бұрын
@Cloudcompound I understand why they have it, and had that kid actually got it that would have been damn cool for him. But if someone was to claim my precious YZ250......they'd have to pry it from my cold, dead hands!
@MBN_FB
2 ай бұрын
Bunch of haters
@Tide12NC
2 ай бұрын
A push that went against the rules.
@cengland209
2 ай бұрын
I don't completely agree with that whole being able to claim another rider's bike after the race or final if he wins. Like if you win no one should be able to say hey I'm laying claim to your bike here's $1k AMA make them give it to me. So I can take it home and tear it down to figure out what parts they have in it and exact measurements for everything. Can lobe and valve lift. What crank rod and piston they use. Now that everything is fuel injected and has a tuneable ECU. The little things that give them a competitive edge within in the rules. You shouldn't have to be on a team with unlimited resources or have a name like degan to not have to hand over the bike. Most privateers only have one bike if they are super lucky and a manufacturer or dealership gives you a sponsorship you might be able to get 2 bikes a year. So unless they changed the rule and they have to pay a high enough price to replace the price of the bike and the aftermarket parts and build labor. You should have the right to say fuck you. Not hey I claimed it and you didn't respond so it's mine or you do respond so they have to pay you or AMA has to deny them. Just bullshit.
@1DVSB
2 ай бұрын
My neighbor worked on a factory Honda racing team. He rebuilt my CR80’s engine with all the illegal stuff that would get you kicked out of racing. It was faster than the 250’s by far.
@barryhallsack8852
2 ай бұрын
It's one of those new golf ball Pistons
@Discgolf_RD
2 ай бұрын
It’s almost like everyone one else racing is trying to be in the edge with the rules
@markmarshall4779
2 ай бұрын
Bike was faster than the rest cubes rule should have checked crank and piston 🤔
@CoralReefkid
2 ай бұрын
It sounds different for Christ sake, in my opinion it couldn’t be more obvious it’s a shorter connecting rod and cylinder. Deegan just masks it by “riding harder than everyone else”
@brandon_doe
2 ай бұрын
You mean, haiden was faster than the rest…?!!
@The-real-doc-holiday
2 ай бұрын
Yeah, everyone will forget about it in a couple more years
@chrissmith7742
2 ай бұрын
It's called it was a full mod bike we seen him in person riding that bike it was putting power of a 450 out of it
@ScottAllenSparks
Ай бұрын
People need to seriously get over this story. It happened years ago now. Move on 👍🏻
@E63s_Scott
Ай бұрын
Why? How would you feel followed the rules but you still lost your job and then get even more punished, no thanks injustice for that poor kid should never be forgotten
@shawnortmann9662
2 ай бұрын
🤔 I don't understand how you can just claim someone's bike???
@Artvasquez
2 ай бұрын
It’s a rule at LL let’s say you got a better bike then me and I all got Is a stocker . All I gotta do is go up say I wanna claim your bike pay msrp plus 10%
@daddy5225
2 ай бұрын
Exactly, it's supposed to help the talented riders beat rich ass riders.
@mckenze9274
2 ай бұрын
its a factory bike, thus not owned by deegan, so it can be protested and bought out by the protester
@klaus5686
2 ай бұрын
Double msrp, not 10%@@Artvasquez
@Artvasquez
2 ай бұрын
@@klaus5686oh it’s double msrp now?
@iceKOId
2 ай бұрын
I forgot about this
@andreweakin3923
2 ай бұрын
Yeah, dont want North Korea to get ahold of Star racing's formuoli 😂
@wyattcitizenzap4539
2 ай бұрын
probably lightened gears and flywheels. or even over sized gear box with lower cahin gearing.
@BelleTx214
2 ай бұрын
Deegans entitlement is real
@martinhernandez7733
2 ай бұрын
Deegan diddnt know he was just riding the shitt outta that bike
@TreTreSav
2 ай бұрын
I bet Levi Kitchen could ride Deegans bike better than Deegan himself.
@matthewthomason8524
2 ай бұрын
I don't think he would. he was on star too. they were on near identical engines besides what their personal preferences were. Besides his results at Kawisaki are better than when he was at star. He was literally a red plate holder this year.
@stevokatzzz
2 ай бұрын
Hell yeah you know it
@jdtv...9134
2 ай бұрын
It's the titanium gears that's why.
@beekeeperbrad6251
2 ай бұрын
Just a bunch of cheaters
@martinhernandez7733
2 ай бұрын
It's got a stand alone battery powered motor pushing the waterpump impeller for starters 😢 TITANIUM GEARBOX SPECIAL HEAD PISTON CONN ROD PROBABLY IS BILLET TOO
@nancysmith9487
2 ай бұрын
AMA and sanctions should have a truck to test, making sure there legal for that class. Dyno testing procedures. Cheating in Sense. Get two completely untouched stock bikes. Race it out
@Sneakyninjas33
2 ай бұрын
The bike was never “illegal” and thats not why the kid wanted to claim it anyways.
@nancysmith9487
2 ай бұрын
@@Sneakyninjas33 appreciate info, claiming the bike then unclaimed making a deal outside the trailer office. There was way more then 17 thousand invested in that factory amateur bike. Information, computer notes, settings, part's. It's like having a NASCAR car in a stock car race. No cheating unless get caught. Since. They didn't want to open engine/s guess never know bored out cylinders,over sized pistons crank etc.. Arigato ban clan
@brandon_doe
2 ай бұрын
The class is literally a mod class tho. I don’t get where everyone keeps thinking it needs to be a stock bike
@SPiTFiRE_JiMMY
2 ай бұрын
Well it’s like all it takes is it being one of the competitors plants to take the bike and bring it back to their warehouse and dissect it and then you don’t win anymore. I can see why they wouldn’t want it out. It’s the way deegan went about it that’s rubbing people the wrong way.
@Shawn-ts4jw
2 ай бұрын
Wasn't Deegans bike to begin with, Star's bike. Deegan has no say as to what happens to the bike so not sure what you on about
@jamintoday5137
2 ай бұрын
Bring up more about this please. The Deegans are so big but you have to find the truth
@charlesterrell-bu3lq
2 ай бұрын
Could be suspension, or electronics
@jefffff1007
2 ай бұрын
He should've kept it and sold it back!🤔😁
@mx_ata2d642
2 ай бұрын
The Deegan's being less than sporting? Nah
@JLE1177
2 ай бұрын
Compressed air
@MrDarkness303
2 ай бұрын
Its crazy that theres a rule where someone can just buy your property without you wanting to sell it. Like youre just forcedto give up something you own.
@JeffAnotherJeff
2 ай бұрын
It was in the rule book. Pretty standard at most local oval tracks too. Claim rules are so that this exact situation doesn’t happen, pros showing up with 50k in tech, while everyone else is running amateur 10k gear. The claim punishes those that do this. Currently we have an auto cross car winning every “any car” event, and the track won’t “claim” the car, so he keeps coming back, and less people are showing to compete. this is something along those lines.
@BrianRodriguez176
2 ай бұрын
Of course... A secret ; obviously...
@beekeeperbrad6251
2 ай бұрын
Sport is a joke because of this stuff
@upurkilt7246
2 ай бұрын
Rules are up to interpretation....
@kylejo96
2 ай бұрын
Kid retracted his claim...end of story..assume all you want
@MJBOGAN
2 ай бұрын
He should have claimed it
@coltonwall6112
2 ай бұрын
You have to stop and think tho that was Haiden last race there and they knew it so they wanted to keep the bike as a sovereign for it being his last race
@raymcnitt9054
2 ай бұрын
Nope it was bc of star mad at the mechanic of the other rider. They were willing to give him the bike once they swapped motors and put it in claims and Deegan even rode the bike day 2 and won all his motos on a stock or semi stock engine that day but still didn’t end up getting claimed
@Davidmm815
2 ай бұрын
It’s a 450 or 350 in a 250 frame probably
@tylertrosclair6246
2 ай бұрын
The kid had his chance n pulled out
@russnunn2456
2 ай бұрын
What does this claiming the bike mean excuse my ignorance I’m from the uk never heard of it before .sounds bizarre you’d let someone have your bike when you just won on it I don’t get it
@Albertastream
2 ай бұрын
The bikes a cheat code everyone knows this
@jeremylecroix9512
2 ай бұрын
It should be a completely stock bike,only thing that should be done is the number and suspension adjustment. The same bike that they sell to regular folks at the dealership. That way is completely fair to everyone non sponsored and sponsored.
@ChristopherVietri-if3fh
2 ай бұрын
This is why I have absolutely zero respect for star racing Yamaha and the Deegans
@lifeisgood3589
Ай бұрын
I'm sure Star Yamaha and the Deegans lose sleep every night because ole Chris has lost respect for them lol
@paralna7755
2 ай бұрын
280 kit ? lol
@2strokin_it
2 ай бұрын
And the Yamadog bike still has trouble winning like they want them to. If it’s such a stellar bike, why doesn’t it dominate like they want?!
@alfadub1962
2 ай бұрын
Haiden just went 1-1 at fox raceway in the 1st round of the Mx season lol
@2strokin_it
2 ай бұрын
That’s called a moto win. That’s not the definition of dominance. Let’s allow the seasons to continue before you celebrate.
@lifeisgood3589
Ай бұрын
@@2strokin_it Deegans still dominating
@2strokin_it
Ай бұрын
Ok, Deegan wins a few races. How many riders does Star need in their pits for one rider to win a few races? Wow, such domination 🤡
@G-TownJoker
2 ай бұрын
He was Wanted to Prove Deegan was riding a full factory works bike and was Breaking the rules
@brandon_doe
2 ай бұрын
It’s a mod class…….
@zacharyradford5552
2 ай бұрын
Except it still has rules.
@brandon_doe
2 ай бұрын
@@zacharyradford5552 still a mod class….
@dwayne1655
2 ай бұрын
The kid that wanted it said that just having that bike was all he wanted, he knew Deegan would be big and he would own his bike.
@turbolsftw
2 ай бұрын
deagan should of lost that bike its crazy you can pay people off like that just shows their character im gonna take a stab and say they were cheating and didnt wanna get caught
@brandon_doe
2 ай бұрын
They def didn’t pay him off lmao. They also were not cheating, since ya know, it’s a mod class…..
@robertsmith1030
2 ай бұрын
I haven't watched or supported the deegans since !! Far as I'm concerned there trash now !! Cheating isn't Kool doesn't make you best it makes you a cheater 🤷
@a103192
2 ай бұрын
Meth! I knew it! lol meth in the engine lol
@moochiezpitt
2 ай бұрын
I'm sure all you guys, HRC, are juicing too.
@kevinperfect8951
2 ай бұрын
Or maybe the kid saw dollar signs, Ryder D sold his Loretta’s bike for $45k & he got 7th plus is 1/12th the size of Deegan’s fanbase. A Deegan Loretta’s championship bike could sell for $100k plus to the right fan & it only cost him $18k to claim. Why did nobody think of this angle?
@michaelnunez3443
2 ай бұрын
Bore out Tune Race fuel Valves and pistons
@brandon_doe
2 ай бұрын
Guarantee it wasn’t bored out. Let alone you’re allowed to use race fuel. Also allowed to upgrade internals, since, well ya know, it’s a mod class
@zacharyradford5552
2 ай бұрын
Except the bike sounds different. And it’s not that “harder riding, sound.
@Realstealfan
2 ай бұрын
@@brandon_doeit’s a mod class with a price limit.
@brandon_doe
2 ай бұрын
@@Realstealfan sure if you consider someone trying to claim the bike. Other than that, no
@davidjames1800
2 ай бұрын
That same kid had raced and purposely taken out deegan two times before, kid only wanted publicity. But for sure that engine was special
@brandon_doe
2 ай бұрын
I didn’t even realize that till you said it. Go figure. Bro was just jealous af
@kevinmelanson3282
2 ай бұрын
I raced alot on 2 strokes and you could hear a 125 bored out and same with a 250. Do you bore out four strokes? Is there a sound difference? Ps deegan shouldve lost that bike
@travisfletcher900
2 ай бұрын
Two strokes definitely sounded different, but these factory 4 strokes all sound gnarly these days. They’re not allowed to bore them, but the 250s get high compression pistons, lots of head work, bigger valves, transmission ratios, and fuel and timing mapping make these factory bikes a lot better than a stock one. The 450s are fast enough as it is, but they do some things to make it custom for each rider. Some factory teams are taking power out of the 450s, for certain riders, to actually make them faster on the track.
@Sneakyninjas33
2 ай бұрын
Brother the bike was never illegal and thats not why the kid wanted to claim it anyways. Claiming is just wanting to buy the bike…
@fugginrambo
2 ай бұрын
@@Sneakyninjas33yes you can bore and stroke a 4 stroke and they do sound a little different . It's harder to tell than a smoker tho.
@MyName-yl2nc
2 ай бұрын
Haiden would have smoked that kid on a Barbie bike he had no chance to beat him on any bike
@kellybrown6988
2 ай бұрын
That’s not the point kid😂
@ITSME-iu8rm
3 ай бұрын
The sole reason I have yet to watch a 250 race since. Absolute garbage!!
@Hunterevans15
2 ай бұрын
Re-tard
@brandon_doe
2 ай бұрын
Just say you’re boring without saying
@hung8969
2 ай бұрын
“That young kid” he should have shut his mouth lol. Now he’s known as that one kid. Ruined his chances at anything. Don’t bite the hand that feeds you
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