F.A.Q Section Q: Do you take aircraft requests? A: I have a list of aircraft I plan to cover, but feel free to add to it with suggestions:) Q: Why do you use imperial measurements for some videos, and metric for others? A: I do this based on country of manufacture. Imperial measurements for Britain and the U.S, metric for the rest of the world, but I include text in my videos that convert it for both. Q: Will you include video footage in your videos, or just photos? A: Video footage is very expensive to licence, if I can find footage in the public domain I will try to use it, but a lot of it is hoarded by licencing studies (British Pathe, Periscope films etc). In the future I may be able to afford clips :) Q: Why do you sometimes feature images/screenshots from flight simulators? A: Sometimes there are not a lot of photos available for certain aircraft, so I substitute this with digital images that are as accurate as possible.
@steveshoemaker6347
Жыл бұрын
My friend i really do enjoy you excellent Aircraft videos....An this old man thanks you 👍 Shoe🇺🇸
@uberschnilthegreat22
Жыл бұрын
Do you also take Helicopter Requests? If so, I'd like to know about the development history and evolution of the iconic Mi-24 Hind, or 'Crocodile' for its initial A variant.
@crazypetec-130fe7
Жыл бұрын
Since you've been looking at the Grumman biplanes, how about doing a video on the Curtiss biplanes of the same era? The Boeing F4B/P-12 would be another good one to compare to them.
@BlueDebut
Жыл бұрын
Hey so I REALLY like the 3D model approach mixed with photos and design drawings. The changes appear a lot more apparent that way.
@billclinton3862
Жыл бұрын
I don't understand why you use that criteria for metric and imperial measurements, Metric is still simpler and far easier to grasp than Imperial even if the engineer who designed the planes used Imperial.
@Machia52612
Жыл бұрын
At the academy in the 1970’s a retired USN LCDR who was one of our instructors, flew F3F’s out of NAS Alameda told us a story, that when he was a young pilot taking up an F3F after it had some maintenance done on it, found it to be very windy in the cockpit. He finally realized after he took off, that the maintenance crew forgot to put the windshield back! Good thing he had goggles. He would later join the USN LTA division and retired in 1962. He had a lot of great stories. He flew the PBY Catalina too. Quite a naval career.
@Paladin1873
Жыл бұрын
My Dad and I built a Monogram 1/32 scale model of the Gulfhawk when I was a kid in the 1960s. The landing gear would fold up and retract down as you rotated the propeller. This video brought back a lot of fond memories of modeling and watching old classic aviation movies.
@jasondiaz8431
Жыл бұрын
There is a mockup of a f3f in the Cradle of Aviation Museum in Mineola Long Island NY. The museum is only about 3 miles from the old Grumman iron works. When I was a kid it was being built by former Grumman Employees in the early 90s. It is complete with a landing gear and engine demonstration.
@Scrat335
Жыл бұрын
You can see the lineage of the Wildcat and Hellcat in this bird.
@yes_head
Жыл бұрын
Great video (and I love the 3D renderings!) I never knew about the Gulfhawks. But you're right -- there's a surprising lack of data and pictures about the FF, F2F, and F3F. This video helps to correct that.
@EstorilEm
Жыл бұрын
Wonderful video - slight correction though, as the Gulfhawk 2 is actually at the other air and space museum (Udvar Hazy Center) in Chantilly, VA and not D.C. I wouldn’t normally mention this, but I go there quite frequently as it’s only a few minutes away. 👍 Funny how these designs almost immediately resembled the Wildcat as a mid-monoplane, though I had never seen the lineage so clearly till this video. I’m lucky enough to help maintain and operate a Grumman TBM Avenger, and even in the case of that aircraft, the lineage is still clear. The mention of toughness is funny as well, as I’d imagine the nickname of the “Grumman ironworks” likely originated during the time of these designs, not the later “cats” and Avengers. They made some great aircraft, and I proudly sport a “Grumman Ironworks” patch on my flight suit when I crew her during air shows, etc.
@robertguttman1487
Жыл бұрын
Just as a matter of explanation, the yellow upper wings were not simply a matter of mere decoration They were painted that way to make the aircraft easier to spot if it had to ditch in the sea. In addition, the red "V" on the upper wing was also there for a reason. During the 1930s aviators placed a great deal of stress upon precision formation flying. As a result, Navy Aviators used the "V" shaped stripes painted on the upper wings as guides for lining up on each other while flying in formation.
@alphadawg81
Жыл бұрын
I always found that small closed cabin biplanes had their appeal. ...especially the ones with retractable landing gear.
@vonfragesq7145
Жыл бұрын
Love the F2F and F3F. The F3 at the naval museum was flown by James Flatley I think as a young jg. It was recovered from the Pacific off San Diago and fully restored. How this came to be, he was on a landing approach to his carrier, his engine quit and he ditched short of the carrier. He was fine but an accident board determined he had inadvertently shut the fuel off, a statement he flatly (no pun intended) denied. Fast forward to the 90's or early 2000's when this plane was found on the bottom and recovered. They found the fuel shutoff was in the correct position and the Navy went back in and cleared his record posthumously. I am doing this from memory so my names/dates might be wrong.
@bluetopguitar1104
Жыл бұрын
Great video. I remember back in the 1970s, monogram offered both the Gulfhawk and F3F in a 1/32 scale plastic kit.
@rsookchand919
Жыл бұрын
Combat aircraft in the interwar period would probably be shredded in the 40’s but by Golly they looks aesthetically pleasing
@migueldelacruz4799
Жыл бұрын
It looks so cute!
@terraflow__bryanburdo4547
Жыл бұрын
I thought I saw a resemblance of the F2F to the Brewster Buffalo, aside from it's portly profile...sure enough, it has the same tail! I wonder if Finland picked up a few?
@timgosling6189
Жыл бұрын
Well researched and well presented. Great stuff!
@Tyrs_Finox
Жыл бұрын
What a sendoff for the Navies biplane fighters for this to be the last, always loved these aircraft, thanks for making the vid!
@dubyacwh7978
10 ай бұрын
In 1993 in Texas airplane factory in Fort Worth Texas manufactured two Grumman F3 F-3s After inspection by Northrop Grumman, they were allowed to use continuation serial numbers
@Allegheny500
Жыл бұрын
A long time ago I played a game called "War in the south Pacific" on a commodore 64 computer with a friend of mine who was also a historian. He played the Japanese while I played the Americans. At the start of the game I found a squadron of F2Fs at the airfield in Espiritu Santo and knowing my friend transferred them to the islands north. They proved quite the surprise to him and interestingly, according to the computer, quite effective against the Zero's. I won the battle, crippled his carriers, but none of the F2Fs survived.
@TheColonelKlink
Жыл бұрын
For me an early 1940s Boeing Stearman with navy livery (blue fuselage, yellow wings) is practically irresistible aviation appeal. Great video 👍
@JamesLaserpimpWalsh
Жыл бұрын
That's a really nice computer rendering of the plane. Thanks for the vid.
@Straswa
Жыл бұрын
Great work Rex! I love the interwar US aircraft, I really like the pre-war color schemes. Especially the willow green tails on aircraft assigned to USS Ranger (CV-4).
@mban2748
Жыл бұрын
I always loved Grumman aircraft.
@TastyBusiness
Жыл бұрын
Oh! I saw the orange Gulfhawk 2 at the Udvar Hazy center last month. Didn't realize that it was part of a long naval biplane lineage.
@toddgreener
8 ай бұрын
omg I just subbed to your channel, and I've gotta say I've been crushing on these planes FOR YEARS, but there just isn't a ton of quality content about them. Thanks for this video!
@Rom3_29
Жыл бұрын
Blue Angles should fly biplanes for a change. 4:13 - Fighter plane that looks straight out of Mickey Mouse Comics. 18:35 - Starting look like Grumman Wildcat. Just change the wings.
@henrythewhite
Жыл бұрын
"But the story of the F4F..." I knew that was coming, I knew the Wildcat wouldn't be in this video, but I am so READY.
@RideAcrossTheRiver
Жыл бұрын
Interesting how Grumman's Lunar Module landing gear is rather similar to Grumman's F2-3-4F landing gear!
@ice9snowflake187
Жыл бұрын
I'm interested in how these Grumman fighters compare with other biplane fighters of their generation (more or less) like the Gloster Gladiator, the Polikarpov I-153, and the Fiat Cr32.
@johnforsyth7987
Жыл бұрын
Thank you for another informative video. Looking forward to you upcoming video on the last Italian biplane of WWII. (The Falco)
@TXGRunner
Жыл бұрын
One of my favorites, and you really did it justice.
@philbosworth3789
Жыл бұрын
I love all these recent 3D renditions
@biplaneflights
11 ай бұрын
Great video. Thank you. One slight correction. The F3F wasn't the last of the Grumman biplanes - the Ag-Cat went into production in 1959.
@adamdubin1276
Жыл бұрын
There is Museum near me here in Colorado Springs, they have an airworthy F3F in their collection and it is gorgeous.
@imtoooldforthisstuff
Жыл бұрын
I recently built a VFA-31 Anthology that included the F3F in Tomcatter markings. I presented all of the aircraft, 17 in total, to a retiring Navy recruiter, who took them home to Oceana, Virginia in 2020. He passed away of Covid in early 2022, and the planes went to a display (I'm told) somewhere on the base. I've gotten a few requests for custom built individual aircraft from past squadron members, but interestingly I've gotten maybe half a dozen requests to duplicate the VF-6 F3F I built.
@Ebergerud
9 ай бұрын
Accurate Miniatures made a terrific 1/48 kit of the F3F. I've got to build mine.
@clifbradley
Жыл бұрын
Looking at that old navy footage, you can practically smell the syphilis, spilled fuel, prop grease and body sweat.
@asdf9890
11 ай бұрын
I love the undercarriage retracting into the fuselage design. Seems like the best idea for aesthetics, but I guess V engines took up the room later on?
@exocet1
Жыл бұрын
Naval Air museum in Pensacola has lovely collection and includes a couple of these :)
@Scott-q3k
10 ай бұрын
Rex you don't have to thank me buddy. I thank you for your videos on aviation. These videos go over soo well with a good strong Cannabis female flowers, sort of like a good wine with a delicious and expensive fine dinner. TY 😊 What's the possibility of perhaps doing some more work with Drach and his naval gig. I felt like that was a rather excellent 👌 idea and hoped that more would be to come. I view Drach's work with the same enthusiasm as I do yours. So long Laddy, Good Show... 😊😊😊
@tonyraheja1
3 ай бұрын
Very interesting... Thanks... Great pics!
@hawnyfox3411
11 ай бұрын
***** I'll have to look more into it, but in Aug' 2001 I saw TWO of those Grumman F3F's at an airshow, Suffolk England They'd been flown over especially (cannot remember as to why ?) - But they WERE both displayed at the RAYDON Suffolk airshow that year, highlight of the show, for me - Raydon of course, being an ex 8th AF P.51 Mustang fighter base & the Norwegian Historic flight bought both their P.51 & A.26 Invader over to the show - The Mustang was already painted-up in Raydon's wartime 'Yellow/Black' chequer markings & looked superb - But I was really caught off guard by those two/pair of Grumman F3F's, as hitherto, I never ever realised they existed - were they 'real' or 'replica' ?????
@stargazeronesixseven
Жыл бұрын
The Grumman F2F & F3F Navy Fighters >>> Such cute & cartoonish looking Biplanes indeed! 🌷🌿🌍💜🕊
@JessWLStuart
Жыл бұрын
Awesome video! I've been very interested in the F2F and F3F. Do you have a video on the FF?
@ChasOnErie
Жыл бұрын
THANK YOUR YOUR FANTASTIC REVIEW OF THIS GRUMMAN F SERIES … My son flew The Harrier with Pappys 214 Squadron out of Yuma a few years back … lots of flights on the water and off for 20 years. My comment is when he was in training I found a toy remote controlled F series model .I was not familiar with the fat body Grumman so when I bought it I that it was a “cartoon” model .. I did find after a few years it was an actual scale model of the F series planes .. and we still have it .. Just a dumb note 🤣🤣🤣… (
@franciscojaviernarbaiza9517
Жыл бұрын
The Grumman naval biplanes did participate in combat, the Grumman FF specifically. The Spanish Republic bought 40 aircraft, built under license in Canada, although it only received 34 in April 1938, and used them mainly for patrol and coastal defense in the Mediterranean during the Spanish civil war. Their performance was quite mediocre, and they were clearly outclassed by the newer, much faster monoplanes. The only enemy aircraft shot down by the Grummans was a German seaplane. In Spain they were known as "Delfin" (dolphin) or, sarcastically, as "Pedro Rico", referring to the then mayor of Madrid, an obese and short man.
@Kim-the-Dane-1952
Жыл бұрын
Yes very beautiful planes. thanks so much for the video
@TommygunNG
Жыл бұрын
The F3F barrel fighter practically outperformed the Army Air Corps’s P26 Peashooter, despite being carrier based and a biplane.
@anthonyirwin6627
Жыл бұрын
Will you do a video of the Hs 123?
@gertjevanpoppel7270
Жыл бұрын
Always nice to see these documentaries off these beautiful airplanes 👍😀 At 30 minutes and 5 seconds you see the airplane in a museum… What is the airplane (biplane) hanging in the background?….
@chrismartin3197
Жыл бұрын
Beech Staggerwing?
@obsidianjane4413
Жыл бұрын
The bright colors were to make finding the wrecks easier to find after they crashed.
@theblackbear211
Жыл бұрын
Nicely done. Bravo!
@jehoiakimelidoronila5450
Жыл бұрын
The f2f & f3f, when viewed closely to the side, looked like an infant p-47 with the upper wing as aerial crutches And since it's a navy plane, I might call it "sea bolt"
@irishpsalteri
Жыл бұрын
Those are good looking planes.
@tommytwotacos8106
Жыл бұрын
must admit she's a good looking plane
@revertfpv2928
Жыл бұрын
Where is the man that made this model , I want to shake you hand. XD no ,for real, great job
@MartyWeller
Жыл бұрын
Request:- Dewoitine D.520
@SunnyIlha
Жыл бұрын
I wonder sometimes why didn't Grumman leave the lower wing of the bi-wing in the same low hull position rather than putting it higher position mid-fuselage that occurred in the descendant Wildcat. We might imagine the Wildcat with a low-wing (as they did with the later descendant again Hellcat).
@frankbarnwell____
Жыл бұрын
Okay. The plane's fuselage turns into a hull, in the water! Go Navy!
@vger9084
Жыл бұрын
The flying beer barrels.
@foxxy46213
Жыл бұрын
Look a lot like the Brewster buffalo from the sides
@hobbyhermit66
Ай бұрын
Another plane I don't have a model of. Dang it!
@benwilson6145
Жыл бұрын
Looks like Mutleys aircraft from the wacky races.
@matthewandrews3036
Жыл бұрын
It's so cute!
@germanirish2
Жыл бұрын
As if Disney had designed characters for their upcoming `30s aviation cartoon. They are so cute!.
@minot.8931
Жыл бұрын
The bright colours were so the planes could easily be seen if they landed in the drink.
@anzaca1
Жыл бұрын
They're cute in that "chubby" way.
@timking2822
Жыл бұрын
I never thought of the U.S. Navy's pre-WWII biplanes as "pretty". They reflect a period where the military was out-of-touch with other military forces throughout the world.
@michaeldelucci4379
Жыл бұрын
The yellow wing colors were so the aircraft could be seen if it had crashed
@raymathews1474
Жыл бұрын
The Grummans get a lot of camera time in Flight Command, albeit in monochrome
@abelardgromnicki6330
Жыл бұрын
"The Prettiest Fighters..." I find this statment quite controversial xd
@jamescant6625
Жыл бұрын
👍
@mastathrash5609
Жыл бұрын
My favorite prewar fighters! I wish There was a double like button!
@Getoffmycloud53
Жыл бұрын
The Flying Chiefs were special because they were NCOs.
@theirishpickel4492
Жыл бұрын
F4f video coming soon??????? The wildcat is my favorite plane
@RoChaiBo
Жыл бұрын
American Psychooooooo~~🎵
@matthewmoore5698
Жыл бұрын
I’ve given up tanks I’m on planes all the way I’m addicted bad ( sorry )
@ursus9104
Жыл бұрын
There was always a market in all Latin America's wars and revolutions for US surplus weapons.
@thesnazzycomet
Жыл бұрын
chonky
@TinCanHead-g5u
Жыл бұрын
Does this mean the F4F is coming soon?
@rockoorbe2002
Жыл бұрын
These airplanes rolled so that the Wildcat and Hellcat could zoom.
@karlbrundage7472
Жыл бұрын
I made a 500 mile diversion from a trip out west only because I learned that there was an original F3F at the Museum of World War II Aviation in Colorado Springs. I actually got to touch it, photograph it at length, ask and get answers from museum staff and generally have one of the best times of my life. I also encountered an F3A..... Yep, a Brewster-built Corsair at the museum (It's the only Brewster-built Corsair left... It's been "blueprinted" i.e. It's been rebuilt to original Chance-Vought specifications on literally everything.) GO TO THIS MUSEUM!!!!! Edit: Sidenote: As a Submariner, all of the museum staff- aviators all- were filled with questions about submarines and my career. I probably answered as many questions about submarining as I asked about flying. Good times...................
@bryanparkhurst17
Жыл бұрын
Your episodes are getting more in-depth and better. You can absolutely see the line going from the 1920s all the way through the end of World War II in the Grumman aircraft. Such a distinctive set of lines.
@emjackson2289
Жыл бұрын
The word "Grumman" cuts thru the US Navy like its a stick of rock sold at Coney Island
@wbertie2604
Жыл бұрын
@@emjackson2289 it even made the moon lander that popped itself down in the Sea of Tranquility. So that means it was a naval fighter too as it landed on a sea.
@JohnnyRocker2162
Жыл бұрын
Definitely some of the most colourful military planes. I remember seeing a collection of 'Yellow Wings' at a model show in the 90s. It got me into making quite a few Rareplanes vac-form kits of these inter war planes. Great video.
@edwardweeden8837
Жыл бұрын
Johnny, please see my comment here discussing vertical stabilizer colors assigned to squadrons. Ed Weeden
@poowg2657
Жыл бұрын
Our model club president built one in 1/48th and added all the photo etch and resin available incuding turn buckles and EZ line. Lots of scratch building finished it up and it turned into a show winner.
@jeffp3415
Жыл бұрын
I built the Monogram model of the F3F when I was a lad. You would turn the propeller and that would activate the landing gear up and down - putting that together was my first education on engineering. My favorite model I ever made.
@cbroz7492
Жыл бұрын
..ine if my favorite also..
@Sturminfantrist
Жыл бұрын
Beautiful little fighter, when i started flying in War Thunder RB air mode it was my favorite Bi Plane, climbs like an Angel , turns good , good armarment. Accurate Miniatures made a very good/detailed 1:48 Kit.
@ceilyurie856
Жыл бұрын
same, some reserve biplanes arguable pack mroe punch, but I loved the F3F, it handled WAY better than any other biplane,a nd I ahve punched up agaisnt 2.3 fairly often
@Ash007YT
Жыл бұрын
Shiny 1930's aircraft what more could you need?
@Kaclasy
Жыл бұрын
When do we get a list of the Top 5 ugliest German aircrafts?
@MaticTheProto
Жыл бұрын
Bold of you to assume there are even 5 ugly aircraft
@ozarktheshark8931
Жыл бұрын
@@MaticTheProto not even bold at all, the Germans made a lot of ugly shit
@Tordogor
Жыл бұрын
Going for ugliness I would go for many French and British interwar planes of many types. 😖 German, mostly gorgeous! (Even some of the most bizarre designs. Beauty of evilness ... ?! 🤔)
@overboss9599
Жыл бұрын
It's just variants of the BF109. I love that flying brick, but it's not exactly aesthetic.
@patrickstewart3446
Жыл бұрын
@@MaticTheProto Ju 86 Ju 87 (early models) Fw 189 Fi 156 Ar 232 There’s 5 😁
@josephlannert969
Жыл бұрын
These were indeed the end of Grumman MILITARY biplanes, but they would develop another biplane for aerial chemicals application (crop duster) in 1957...the Grumman Ag Cat. Funny enough the Ag Cat would become the basis of the later Air Tractor, which is itself the basis for a CAS aircraft proposal for USAF Special Operations. So it kinda came full circle in a severely roundabout way
@cbroz7492
Жыл бұрын
WOW!!! You remember the AgCat!!@
@BHuang92
Жыл бұрын
Pretty remarkable how sturdy the design is when it's one of the very few biplane designs that transition well into a monoplane! It's up there next to the British equivalent, the Hawker Hurricane which was the monoplane version of the biplane Hawker Fury!
@EstorilEm
Жыл бұрын
I believe this is when people began the “Grumman Ironworks” joke / nickname. Before our Avenger was restored to original WWII marine markings and configuration (turret / bomb bay doors, etc) she was a Canadian water bomber for Con-Air. Apparently a pilot misjudged a drop and flew the port wing into a telephone pole once. The plane snapped the telephone pole off, and to this day you can see the patch on the leading edge of the wing. When people ask if I get nervous flying in a 3/4-century-old plane to air shows, I usually just walk them over to the wing and show them the patch. 🙈
@allangibson8494
Жыл бұрын
And their was a biplane version of the Hurricane… the Hillson FH-40. A number of the next generation propeller aircraft also became jet powered (P-51 to FJ-1 Fury & Spitfire XIV to Attacker)
@darbyheavey406
Жыл бұрын
Excellent point!
@rolanddutton
Жыл бұрын
I love the F3F and would put it up there with the Gladiator and Falco. Maybe not as agile, but I reckon it would leave them behind in a dive. The 2 speed blower would help at altitude too. A real hot rod of a biplane.
@neilfoster814
Жыл бұрын
I can't disagree with that statement! All were pinnacles of biplane design, I think the CR-42 just had the edge over the Gloster Gladiator though.
@martijn9568
Жыл бұрын
@@neilfoster814 Doesn't the Gladiator have a fixed pitch propeller, which almost certainly would make it worse than both the F3F and the Cr.42.
@rolanddutton
Жыл бұрын
@@martijn9568 you're correct, but from what I've read both fighters were quite evenly matched. I'm no expert but would guess that a variable prop is not such a big benefit on 1930s biplanes. I can imagine the F3F needing one to get maximum low speed control for carrier landings.
@scottfw7169
Жыл бұрын
Talking about what's been written about these, Dad was in the Navy & briefly a pilot until eye trouble developed: he got aviation magazines and built models for years after he had to stop flying & I remember some air magazine in 1970s having article titled "Grumman's Biplane Beer Barrels."
@scottfw7169
Жыл бұрын
Gotta love a Grumman! 😁 The fathers and grandfathers of the Grumman Cats. 😸
@marcsmith7037
Жыл бұрын
Dad was posted to Yorktown in 1940. His first crew picture has VMF-5's F3F's in the background. His second crew photo has F4Fs...just before he went to flight school as an enlisted pilot (PBYs). There was an F3F that showed up at Oshkosh (1979?) but later crashed. I heard it was rebuilt.
@southronjr1570
Жыл бұрын
It still is mind bending when one realizes that within the career of some pilots of this biplane leaving service, that Jet aircraft would be serving in some of the same ships and top speeds would go from the 250 mph range to well past the speed of sound.
@trekaddict
Жыл бұрын
Grumman really did build them pretty, from this all the way to the Mighty And Glorious Grumman F-14 Tomcat.
@RatPfink66
Жыл бұрын
The US Navy's Flying Chiefs wore the rating Chief Aviation Pilot (APC), with facsimile gold wings as the rating mark. The rating was instituted due to the Navy's shortage of officer pilots inter-war, when commissions were limited and officers entered flight school only after 2 years aboard surface ships. The hit 1932 movie _Hell Divers_ starred Clark Gable and Wallace Beery as APCs aboard USS _Saratoga._
@Chilly_Billy
Жыл бұрын
23:29 That cracked-up Buffalo was flown by none other than a young Lt. John "Jimmy" Thach, who later went on to better feats of airmanship. Not the least of which was developing the Thach Weave tactic of dealing with Japanese Zeroes. You have made at least one subscriber VERY happy with this video.
@warmachinesdrawn4310
Жыл бұрын
Nice video! I find these fighters, together with other biplanes of its generation like the British Gloster Gladiator, Hawker Fury, the Italian Fiat Cr.32-Cr.42, the French Blériot-SPAD S.510 or the German Heinkel He.51 really interesting.
@PilotAwe
Жыл бұрын
Rex, can you talk about different aircraft sights? In particular Im wondering why so many pre-war fighters have a telescopic sight but practically none of the successful war-time fighters dont. Thanks
@mariusmglestue1234
Жыл бұрын
Would you consider doing a video on the Dornier DO-J WAL? I've had an obsession with arctic exploration recently and i've been particualarily fascinated by Amundsen and Ellsworth's attempt at reaching the northpole by air in 1925 using two dornier seaplanes.
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