Chris, I absolutely agree with you, as a consumer of guitars I like dealing with companies that have a long and successful history, but have learned over time how to improve their products. I hear too many guitarists go on about wanting vintage year specific reproductions of their models, without recognizing that perhaps guitar manufacturers have learned through experience over time what has worked and what should be improved.
@vocalion9519
Жыл бұрын
One further reason for Gibson headstocks breaking is that they have a 17 degree tilt back, further shortening the grain in comparison to headstocks with lesser tilt backs such as Epiphones which are at 14 degrees. I’m not arguing that Gibsons should change the tilt back because the scarf joint is a much better solution, but changing the tilt back would be better than doing nothing.
@Mitch-6-Strings
Жыл бұрын
The only headstock in the world to have a 🛎️ 🔚 to cover the truss rod. It’s high time that Gibson got this design fault sorted.
@tjsponik
Жыл бұрын
Y'all might want to check out this break! kzitem.info/news/bejne/1mh7z5OpnoWjmI4
@ShamanicSavant
Жыл бұрын
Says the internet armchair expert :)
@vocalion9519
Жыл бұрын
@@ShamanicSavant Indeed I do. Do you own a Les Paul?
@robertc5387
Жыл бұрын
If you want to make an argument for reducing the headstock angle, Epiphones are the LAST example I’d refer to. Headstock angle very much affects the tone of the guitar. I agree with you that a redesigned neck joint would be a better idea, but otherwise, I’d prefer doing nothing.
@ComputersDepartment
Жыл бұрын
Just purchased an Epiphone Les Paul 1959 and was concerned about the headstock issues. Good to know the scarf joint is stronger. Appreciate the information.
@henrydelbosque1989
Жыл бұрын
Would be interesting to know what percentage broken headstock vs total production is concerned...
@andrewg1016
Жыл бұрын
I'd agree. Gibson would want to see some solid data around breakages before investing millions in new production processes. If it's 1:10000, might be worth floating the idea, but 1:100000, maybe not.
@BaktaBak3
Жыл бұрын
I think you are 100% correct Chris. Gibson needs to listen to YOU /US ! Thanks for all you /Alamo Music does.🎸🎸🎸🎸
@buzzstankos8532
Жыл бұрын
Right on…. Pkus they already do scarf joints in Epiphone necks and they look great! Old time ways aren’t better, they are just older.
@seanhallahan14
Жыл бұрын
Courageous, educational and well done! Thank you.
@damonlove8
Жыл бұрын
That’s why I stay away from Gibsons. with tons of different brands now with better quality & better prices. and also that video of a guy here on youtube of proving that wood does not matter to tone that much when it comes to an electric guitar (Not acoustic). It’s mainly the pickups. Gibson is just lucky that the Guitar Gods of the past used their guitars & thats why that’s the only thing they keep hanging on. That’s the only thing that keeps them hanging in business, the past.
@frankcarter6427
Жыл бұрын
my friend's SG headstock broke when he was just playing it - bad design
@anthonyb2334
Жыл бұрын
Great information Chris. I’ve owned three Gibsons that cracked. I never dropped them, always handled with care. I’ve seen lots of comments about the angle, etc. Maybe my issues were I rarely reduced the string tension when not playing. Or maybe the impact occurred during transit but wasn’t visible yet. Thanks. Great information and video
@uscfroadie
Жыл бұрын
Great video, Chris. Gibson (and retailers who ship) could also loosen the strings prior to shipping to reduce the pull on the neck during transport. No point in tuning a guitar before shipping as it will need to be tuned at its destination. Just a simple option to help the chances of the guitar being unharmed during transit.
@daviddawson1718
Жыл бұрын
Guitars are built to have tension on them.
@1970sman
Жыл бұрын
Taylor do ship at lower tension.
@LairdDavidson
Жыл бұрын
My Taylor and PRS guitars both have scarf joints. The one on my particular Taylor isn't very pretty because the grain doesn't match nicely but it's not an issue for me. The PRS one looks great on the maple neck, it's barely noticeable; I can't see why anybody would be unhappy to have the reassurance that their headstock is a bit more durable. Having broken one once I can tell you it's a horrible experience. Taylor say that as well as being stronger it means they can use less wood so that's a plus for their costs and the environment
@guitarandbeyondplus
Жыл бұрын
This was a very interesting and informative video. I was a victim of the Gibson fault. In June of 1966, I bought a brand new "SG Standard". During rehearsal, our bass player asked me a question and I turned around rather swiftly to face him and our instrument necks collided. I didn't notice at first but my neck had a serious "V" shaped crack. I was 15 at the time and was in shock. I lived in a small city where there weren't any luthiers. So I spread that crack and applied Lepage's wood glue. I somehow clamped it. Well, I gigged with that guitar for 54 years. It still is playable. BTW Gibson used "Volutes" from 1969 thru 1981 on their standard models. I recently bought a Les Paul knock-off and it had a crack at the heel. Neck cracks don't really bother me anymore.
@todddammit4628
Жыл бұрын
This touches on an interesting issue in many legacy guitar brands. It seems like they don't do their research to find out what modern features players want and what players don't want, like Fender. They have the best heel cut they ever put on the American Pro II line. But they try to reinvent that on Ultras, which is worse and requires an entirely different neck to work on it. That means you can't make a parts-caster from any Ultra guitar. People buy Fenders in part because they're so easy and fun to mod. Guilds are another great example. The one thing holding me back from buying a D55 is the vintage nut width. Give me an option with the 1.75" nut, which has become the modern standard. They make the M20 with a 1.75", so we know the factor has the tooling. There aren't many people now that prefer the so slim nuts of vintage Guilds; it's okay to change those. The robot tuners is definitely the pinnacle example of this though. Gibson was so out of touch it was laughable.
@paulg3686
Жыл бұрын
Fenders whole neck heel thing is weird. But for something like the guild nuts or whatever, Im sure a thin nut width probably is what draws some players to guilds in the first place. Thats what I tend to like. I also like other things like super small frets that most people arent a very big fan of. I think a lot of the companies should try and modernize for the most part, but they definitely need options for people who like the more vintage spec side of things.
@mrbigg7255
Жыл бұрын
Nice video. I have one of my Rickenbacker 360/12 guitars next to my recliner and I was checking the “break angle”. No where near the angle the Gibson guitars have.
@Akaite79
Жыл бұрын
They should totally update the design for their main-line guitars. Save the traditionalist designs for reissues where the cost to maintain legacy manufacturing techniques can be absorbed by a higher-margin instrument.
@davidwonpu353
Жыл бұрын
Love your informative videos Chris. I love Gibsons to death but other than being vintage correct the headstock design is pretty much the worst of all worlds: 3x3 is more annoying than 6-in-line and the weak spot is made even worse by the tilt back. Many Gibson designs are also heavier on one side, and both contribute to the issue even more. I have a soft spot for a good 70s LP and was very disappointed that the recent Deluxe was literally just the 50s P-90 with mini-hums - no bigger headstock and no volute. A run of “proper” 70s inspired LPs and 335s might be another way to offer the volute in the USA line.
@artrogers3985
8 ай бұрын
That red thing on your shirt makes it look like someone has you in their sites. 🤣😂🤣🎸
@LucasHaneman
Жыл бұрын
I agree completely with this video. I think changing the tilt back to 10 or even 14°, and doing some kind of scarf joint would greatly help things without changing the appearance of the headstock in a dramatic way
@petermccann2561
Жыл бұрын
Thanks. Would have been nice to show a Gibson volute, and a Gibson neck without the truss rod cover. Got to get into ya'lls shop next time I'm in San Antone. I'm no expert, but I do think the changes you suggest would be well received.
@jimballardband
Жыл бұрын
I bought a 1974 Gibson Grabber Bass. It has a scarf joint and a bolt on neck. 😮 I know it sounds crazy to some, but true. So Gibson can and has done it.
@randybecker7339
Жыл бұрын
I totally agree Chris. But keep in mind that Gibson, like so many other manufacturers of so many other products, believe they know best and really don't give a damn what their customers think. Granted, I have no idea what Gibson thinks of their customers but in the absence of any declaration from Gibson, people will think what they want. I mean, while they are wonderful guitars, they are way overpriced. And I own one! I'm just happy mine has never broken (mine is an acoustic J15) despite getting knocked from a "standard" guitar stand. There was finish damage to the edge of the headstock but luckily no actual break. Perhaps they still do it this way because they've always done it this way ... Sounds familiar, no?
@Vykk_Draygo
Жыл бұрын
I don't think that's it. More likely that Gibson purists would crucify them if they changed it. Either way, if you just don't drop it, it isn't a problem.
@keeth200
Жыл бұрын
You nailed it. Great explanation for head stock designs and flaws. One you didn't mention though is the angle the strings run over the nut. I believe that all 3 per side tuning designs like Gibsons , Martins, Taylors and others are bad designs. Fender got that right. I have owned many Fenders and Gibsons over the years and still own a few. But my main electric today is a mid 80s Hamer TLE. Its headstock has the best of Fender and Gibsons designs and eliminated the flaws of both. The neck is a 3 piece maple with a Rosewood fretboard. Very strong.The headstock is tilted back and with six on a side tuners, the strings run perfectly straight across the nut. The neck is set into a mahogany body with a figured maple laminated top. Unlike a Fender Tele, the back of the body has a belly contour like a Strat. Very comfortable. Although I wasn't happy with the pickup layout and made some modifications, I believe the body and neck are perfectly designed. This model was only produced for a few years and not all Hamers are like this. Not sure why it didn't catch on. Thanks for a very informative video.
@vorpalblades
6 ай бұрын
I've played Dean's for 30 years, never had an issue with the string path causing tuning problems.
@patrickd4093
11 ай бұрын
Same thing happens to the Epiphone Les Paul. I have one that I purchased, second hand, and didn't notice any cracks when I purchased. However, when I took the strings loose to change, the head virtually fell off. (Cracked on both sides) I was devastated. Anyway, thanks for the explanation.
@johnwashburn3793
Жыл бұрын
I agree with you and I have given this much thought. But it just makes too much sense!
@georgespencer3973
Жыл бұрын
Very good points, Chris. I never thought about the shorter grain. Enjoy your new guitar! I love my 335.
@patrickharvey6310
Жыл бұрын
WOW! Very informative. I love my Les Paul Standard 60s but I would love it more with a stronger neck. I hope to buy an ES-345 in the future. I really hope they listen to your ideas before I buy one!
@robertc5387
Жыл бұрын
I appreciate your approach to this subject, where you still manage to show respect for those who prefer vintage specs and builds on their instruments. I totally agree with you that Gibson should offer BOTH headstock designs in their catalog. The weakness you describe is certainly valid, and the solution you offer is very much worth considering. I would be very interested in trying a Gibson with this type of improved headstock. However, it’s important to keep in mind that there are many parts to a guitar which make up the whole. Tweaking any one of these can, and often does, have an effect on the tone. It’s not a given that a redesigned headstock will sound exactly like the current design - that’s where a comparison would be really important. And since not everyone hears tone the same way, it’s why i also think it’s important to continue offering the current headstock design along with any new one. While I love my weight-relieved LP, I can definitely hear a difference in tone vs. those without it. It’s a trade off, and fortunately, Gibson continues to offer that choice to us. The headstock designs should be the same way.
@EbonyPope
5 ай бұрын
Exactly you should be able to choose.
@thecaveofthedead
Жыл бұрын
Hey. You've convinced me. I'm gearing up to have a... 'single cut' ... built. It's already going to have some modern features. My luthier was trying to convince me to use a scarf joint. And this is a guy who's built a good few of those guitars in the original '50s style. I think I'm convinced now and will go with the scarf joint. The look will barely change for a lot of extra strength.
@vorpalblades
6 ай бұрын
Scarf joint is needed if it's not quarter-sawn lumber.
@marklucasguitar5126
Жыл бұрын
I think Gibson should go with your suggestion 100%. And also, they should not do the frets up to the binding. The frets should be over the binding. Gibson is too far into their ‘iconic’ status to see what is practical.
@stevestalock3200
Жыл бұрын
You make too much sense. For that reason, they will never change.
@LegsON
Жыл бұрын
If they change, a lot of snobs abd fanboys (who are the whale customers) will fall off.
@alexwoolridge94aw
Жыл бұрын
Those valutes Gibson used recently in the custom shop looked badass. Reminds me of the valute on my HD28. Only Gibson I own with a headstock repair is my 1961 jr and it's great. I've yet to break one myself though. Owned Gibsons for 10 years now.
@BKRMON
9 ай бұрын
Gibson switched to a 14 degree angle in late 1965, then switched back to 17 degrees in 1982. With the exception of the SG's angle that went back to 17 degrees in 1973. Les Pauls had volutes from 1970 to 1981. From 1975 to 1981, they also had 3 piece maple necks with volutes & 14 degree headstock angle. So they have done everything except the scarf joint, which, IMO, would be the best solution. My 1972 Les Paul that I have owned since 1979, has held up fine with it 3 piece mahogany neck with a volute & a 14 degree headstock angle.
@PurpleColonel
10 ай бұрын
Theres a reason G in particular always goes out of tune, its the thin string with the worst angle going from tuner to nut.
@alandenton2973
Жыл бұрын
I have 3 guitars and each has a different approach. I have a Taylor with a scarf joint, a Furch where the truss rod adjustment is in the body like a Martin, and a Kasuga (1970's Japenese) which has a volute.
@hanovergreen4091
Жыл бұрын
Wow. Played since 1986. Had two Gibsons. Never knew some of this. Thank You Very Much! for this information. You have done ALL of us a HUGE service by making this video. Best Regards and Best Wishes!
@77guitarts22
Жыл бұрын
Very well said and explained! Hope Gibson hears you! Even Cort Guitars, Ibanez and other lower end producers do that joint or the volute...
@shiraga0516
Жыл бұрын
Another solution would be PRS. Very similar to Gibson: one-piece mahogany neck, angeled headstock with a truss rod pocket, but with a much shallower headstock angle. They still do break, but less often than Gibson guitars.
@jimdent351
Жыл бұрын
When you say you're more careful with temp and humidity what are you looking for? Are you looking for more humid or more dry? You've got me really nervous now about my 1991 J-45 that's in like new condition.
@rickwiggins283
Ай бұрын
Doesn't Epiphone also use a slightly shallower neck angle? Another improvement to throw in the mix.
@frantisca
Жыл бұрын
Interesting points. Somebody who buys a reissue from the '50s actually has a certain mystique and won't like changes to the model. I would suggest: put the guitar back in its case when not using it, avoid stands and tune it down 1 step for transit. For those who accept changes, yes, a scarf joint is like a pre-glued 2 piece neck at the headstock, but much neater and already faetured. The esthetics won't maybe look as good as a one-pice neck but it will be much more solid. A wheel truss rod at the bottom of the neck can be another improvement. Mahogany is a much softer wood than hard maple. In the '70s, Gibson used a 3 piece maple neck WITH a volute on their LPs. I had one that fell on the head flat down on the floor and nothing happened ! Goes to show, maybe they should offer a line with this structure ?...
@richardturk7162
10 ай бұрын
Thats why I prefer the 79 thru 81 Les Pauls because they have the volute. They did make a Les Paul with and explorer headstock in the 80s. Pretty rare to find one.
@vorpalblades
6 ай бұрын
Volute does nothing.
@johnw4659
Жыл бұрын
Very informative video. Thanks for this clear and complete explanation.
@greghensley6192
Жыл бұрын
You mentioned Martin, the D-28 has the "diamond" feature on the back side of the neck, the D-18 does not (if I remember right, keep me honest)...one idea would be keep a "faux" adjustment cover and move the adjustment to the guitar body end...I've also heard that fixed Les Paul's necks were stronger...so, break the neck at the factory along a marked line and fix it be before boxing and shipping...in fact before you even put the neck on the guitar!!! Speaking of angle change... Gibson should test at say 15-16 degrees and see if anyone notices or number of broken necks goes down...just saying.
@6AM_YT
Жыл бұрын
I've owned over a dozen Gibsons and never broke a headstock. I have one Martin acoustic and the headstock broke while in the case. So, there's that.
@patrickkelly9721
10 ай бұрын
Steam the profiled, flat, neck blank and bend at the nut. Then the long grain would be continous end to end.
@christophereadgbe2976
7 ай бұрын
The best arguments are that additional cost will be offset by more efficient use of materials for the neck, and the “don’t do it like 2015”. There aren’t enough people to say ew a scarf joined headstock to ruin it.
@tjsponik
Жыл бұрын
The Volute does NOT solve the problem! The Norland era LP's and SG's had volutes for a time and just as many headstocks broke! The short grain issue still exists. It just has a carbuncle on top of it! A major reason they break is Mahogany is not a very strong hardwood. BTW, many Asian scarf jointed LP style guitars still break. The phenomenon with scarf joints is the breaks are much shorter (cross grained like you hit it with an ax) and harder to repair. BTW I've been repairing guitars professionally since 1977. If you want to own a Gibson, learn how not to drop it.
@maxmustardman298
6 ай бұрын
Interestingly, the break on scarf jointed necks seems to sometimes run along the jointed pieces. Which to me suggest a bad glue job rather than a design failure. But then again with enough vertical.force you can break every neck.
@rickhill6277
Жыл бұрын
If the necks are already done by CNC, why can’t they include the Scarf Joint in the initial cutting?
@TommySG1
Жыл бұрын
They also make a sort of reinforced design on the Les Paul Access guitars as well, I’m not sure if it’s actually stronger although it certainly appears to be, at least to me. Knock wood, I’ve never damaged a Gibbie headstock and I own 5 of them ( I probably just jinxed myself by saying that too here LOL! ).
@JohnnyArtPavlou
Жыл бұрын
Just add Murphy Labs pre-broken and repaired headstocks as an option. Play authentic. (And it’s stronger)
@milankotevski1663
10 ай бұрын
The only LP style guitar I bought, came with a broken headstock. It was Epiphone LP standard 50s. This has never happened with any of my strat style guitars.
@darrenmcmackin330
Жыл бұрын
Makes perfect sense. Evolution.
@antonyyuryev9750
Жыл бұрын
if I can have a volute on my afforable import Guild so why they can't do this on whole gibson usa line ( improvment on one model will be cost more that to do this on all the guitars, and left the original design for some limited edition or for custom shop option for some period correct reissues.... ( p.s. I don't hate Gibsons, I had them, played them, pleyed on some very wanderful and so inspiring ones but I don't think they will be has less wanderful and inspiring with improvement ( like volute) on this weak spot) !) Chris 10000% agreed with you!
@sarkosh
Жыл бұрын
Put the truss rod adjustment in the pickup cavity?!
@lenniejosephful
7 ай бұрын
Chris, it sounds like a good idea. I own a lot of Gibson guitars and I get paranoid about breaking them.
@noahtrock
Жыл бұрын
YES!! Modern Gibson Les Paul thinner, belly cut, maybe arm cut! Lighter, more comfortable, and maybe cheaper!! YES!! Several other companies are doing it!
@everythingbobbywolfe
4 ай бұрын
I really need someone to explain to me what they are doing to their guitars to break these?? I own 13 Gibsons and have sold probably about 20 others over a matter of 38 years. They have been gigged some of them abused They have been on airplanes They have been in the back of cars and trucks in moving vans etc etc. Please, once and for all tell me how you guys are doing it?
@charlottesimonin2551
Жыл бұрын
Thank you for the information. Your suggestion is excellent.
@texhaines9957
Жыл бұрын
I like a valute on the back of my acoustic guitar neck. Thanks, Chris
@davidmacleod9313
11 ай бұрын
14:55 Put in splines and that could beef it up big time. 😊 (twoodfrd) (lol)
@NDFlyFisher
Жыл бұрын
Very informative. Yes, Gibson should use your suggestions.
@flrpitflrp1965
Жыл бұрын
Also the electric guitar is heavier so the speed of the fall is maximized. So the Shock is greater. Do their acoustic headstocks break at the same ratio?.
@sergioserramusic
Жыл бұрын
I wish they brought back the volute, especially on less vintage looking instruments (studios, modern…)
@erinwatkinson6473
Жыл бұрын
So, I have a new “1960s” Standard with a valute. Does this mean the neck is still one piece of wood and the valute is carved in and the neck still susceptible to breaking?
@vorpalblades
6 ай бұрын
The volute is purely decorative, it does nothing to prevent breaks.
@jackorbit7258
Жыл бұрын
Yes, go with the scarf joint!
@teleguy5699
Жыл бұрын
Having said that. The Gibson and Strat are beautiful models.
@ericoswood1856
Жыл бұрын
Chris, I agree with you 100 percent. Because Gibson necks are so weak, I use Epiphones when I play out. The are normally three piece necks and have a shallower neck angle. And while we’re on the subject, I would prefer a poly finish, one that doesn’t check after only a few years.
@robertc5387
Жыл бұрын
If you like a crappy, tone-killing poly finish, why not just continue playing the Epiphones? I sold my Epiphone LP some years ago and bought a Gibson LP for this very reason. It’s impossible to get a good LP tone out of a guitar that’s basically encased in plastic. There’s a reason why the top manufacturers still use nitro on their guitars - it just sounds better. Of course, if you’re more concerned with appearance than with tone, poly is the perfect finish. Checking doesn’t negatively affect the tone - ask anyone who owns (or has been lucky enough to play) a vintage Gibson LP.
@dalebrandenburger5002
Жыл бұрын
Hey Chris, Why don't they put the truss rod adjustment inside the guitar body on their acoustic guitars? I had to gate check my J35 and an airline luggage ape dropped it. I almost cried when I saw that headstock peeled back. I love the sound of that guitar but I'll never buy a Gibson again unless they fix that problem.
@rlsmith6904
Жыл бұрын
I love you, Chris. I love your reviews. I love that you said this your “opinion.” Gibson created the perfect storm for breaking necks which earned them a well deserved reputation. If Gibson changes the design, then it won’t be a Gibson any more. I understand your frustration as a marketer. But you’re tilting at windmills. You and Mr. Greenberg do great reviews. Keep up the good work.
@davidmacleod9313
11 ай бұрын
4:20 Fenders are maple which is much better for strength as apposed to Gibson which is usually mahogany or something. No? 😊 (My ‘74 SG broke in ‘78. Ugh. Stills sounds great but, you should see the repair! Lol )
@vorpalblades
6 ай бұрын
If properly quarter-sawn lumber is used, species doesn't matter.
@patcecil1685
Жыл бұрын
yes I totally agree, Traditional design is great until your beloved instrument is in 2 bits because of a design issue that other companies have long since put behind them. Uless you are super rich you have to live in the real world so it;s worth saying that Gibson is also losing sales because many buyers don;t want to shell out serious money on a guitar that scares you to death for the terror of it falling over once too often. I won't buy a Gibson for that very reason, it would break my heart, my guitar and my bank account
@SoundOfOneHandClapping
Жыл бұрын
Love my SG, but in hindsight I’d have preferred to support a company that manages to address issues (neck dive, vulnerable headstock) that have been well known for many decades.
@vorpalblades
6 ай бұрын
Or frivolous litigation.
@texhaines9957
Жыл бұрын
What does Cooper think?
@SiggyMe
Жыл бұрын
My 1964 Gibson LG-1 headstock broke and I had it repaired. The problem is well known as this problem and the fix is permanent, intonation and playability are fine. However the resale on this is basically is really down even though it will likely never break again. Gibson, what can I say.
@thyggs
Жыл бұрын
Never heard this topic come up. Good to know!
@alfrede.newmen3024
7 ай бұрын
The Epiphone "Excellente " has a 7 piece neck. I don't think it will ever break or warp. Gibson may want to use a portion of this idea in the weak point of their necks.
@nunyabusiness5075
8 ай бұрын
I "fixed" my Gibson......I bought an Explorer. I think PRS got it right with a near straight pull 3+3; I always liked the looks of the Music Man 4+2, but I'm heard they trademarked that so nobody else can do 4+2.
@CocoKoi321
Жыл бұрын
Easy...... Gibson USA need to go all scarf jointed (like what Taylor does) necks and give people finally a long neck tennon as a compromise, even just medium tenon like Japanese copies use It's not difficult gibson Even cooler idea is before adding the fretboard nut and headstock overlay, they route an area for a carbon fiber rods that go from the 20th fret down to into the headstock! (The carbon fiber rods pre bent to go rite into the headstock and the rods would need to be rectangular shaped to slot tightly into the neck) That'd make them NEVERRRR! BREAK!
@davidschultz5209
Жыл бұрын
Perhaps why new manufactures have it over old, the basis design. Why earthquakes devastate structures not built to withstand. Good video!
@daviddawson1718
Жыл бұрын
I have played Gibsons for 30 years with no problems. I once was handed my J45 with the strap, the was twisted. The guitar came loose and hit headstock first, I trapped the body against knee. Susan is still fine.
@lapeyroua
Жыл бұрын
Brillant exposé, merci Chris.
@jasonchristopheruy80
Жыл бұрын
i might be wrong with this... but haven't gibson tried to make changes to the neck in the past but got severe backlash
@rexrathtar3893
Жыл бұрын
I think the weight of some of their LPs have given them severe backlash.
@barkeater9606
Жыл бұрын
Gibson did fix it in the 70’s with a volute, but the cork sniffers didn’t like it because it’s not 1950’s accurate. 🤨
@be.kind.to.animals
Жыл бұрын
Very informative thanks
@leoleorueras904
2 ай бұрын
Makes much sense!
@davidmancinelli9922
Жыл бұрын
Hi guys love your channel, i'm looking for a good affordable guitar, have you guys ever reviewed the Epiphone J-200EC Studio Acoustic-Electric Guitar - Vintage Sunburst
@wmsollenberger8706
8 ай бұрын
I've owned several Gibson guitars (two 335s/four LPs/two 12 strings over the last 50 years and I've never had one break on me despite 27 years of gigging. I also currently own a 1946 mirrored glass Christmas ornament that my grandparents gave me when I was 6 and it has never been broken either, despite being used almost every year for the last 64 Christmas's. The best way to keep a Gibson (or any guitar) in good working order is to treat it like glass. (An expert tech/roadie and NO stage theatrics, they weren't built for it!) Carl Wilson had an Epiphone Riviera 12 string with 11 headstock repairs but he kept touring with it cause he loved the sound so much. (but he was kind of hard on his instruments)
@artrogers3985
5 ай бұрын
Who engineered that thing? 🎸
@LordRegal69
Жыл бұрын
this is the exact reason i dont own a gibson. im not shelling out that kind of money. i like the idea of putting the truss rod adjustment at the bottom of the fretboard
@BobDorfman
Жыл бұрын
Maybe Gibson should think about this: I will be buying a new acoustic guitar this Spring, probably around the $3,000 price point. I once felt a sense of loyalty to Gibson, maybe because I’m from Kalamazoo, MI. When Gibson left Kazoo for Nashville (leaving a lot of people without jobs), that blind loyalty changed. Gibson almost lost their acoustic guitar business because of that decision. I already have been factoring in Gibson’s notoriously weak neck/headstock design into my decision process. Right now I’m leaning toward a CEO-7, a 00-18, or a 00-28 instead of a Gibson L-00 or LG-2. I suspect that I’m not the only one considering this issue in their guitar choices.
@robertc5387
Жыл бұрын
In the end, it’s about sound. The headstock issue doesn’t enter into it for most of us. Gibson acoustic guitars are some of the best sounding guitars made, period. If you find something that sounds as good or better, go for it. But if the sound isn’t there, I certainly wouldn’t let a broken headstock phobia influence my decision. At the end of the day, there are certainly a lot more Gibsons out there with their headstocks intact than with broken ones.
@christinepratt4656
Жыл бұрын
Gibson could reinforce the neck with carbon fiber rods. That would be cool.
@johnwashburn3793
Жыл бұрын
This is the main reason I don't own a Gibson.
@richardnagamitsu1582
Жыл бұрын
You’re right. I avoid them for that reason.
@Wobbz9413
Жыл бұрын
Plus the ridiculous over pricing!
@michaelschuerman8826
4 ай бұрын
We as players should not have to worry about it Gibson needs to straighten these guitars out don’t buy them until they listen or someone else may buy them that will care
@itsalwayssomething7490
Жыл бұрын
A modern Les Paul 50-60's with classic aesthetics is essentially what PRS did with the McCarty 594. Traditionalists are holding back progress at Gibson and Fender. Those companies are bound by them. You shouldn't have to pay for a custom shop to get a guitar that doesn't have some of the problems the standard does. If you have one, you have to essentially put away another $700 for a future neck break. Yes, people can go a lifetime and not have a break, but accidents do happen and the cost is high for an accident involving a Gibson. But, they don't care so much because they understand people buy the brand, regardless of its quality. Too many guitar brand loyalists willing to accept questionable quality hold a company back from improving. Why should they? Gibson didn't stop selling guitars, even though the "rough years." I was torn between the PRS and the Gibson, and while the Gibson is classic, and nothing sounds like one, I couldn't get passed the very shaky fret work I can see in the HD pictures on Sweetwater. Just zoom in on it, the frets are so messy on a $2700 guitar, something that is remedied in the $6000 models. I don't mind blemishes on used guitars I'm not paying full price for, and was put there by a player, but to come straight from the factory with shotty work, is unacceptable to me. A guitar for $2700 doesn't have to be 100% perfect if it's a great guitar, but it should be pretty close to it.
@readysetmoses
Жыл бұрын
One thing I don't have to worry about with my Tele....I am convinced my Tele could beat me in a fight tbh
@ashergoney
Жыл бұрын
Harp Then Paddle Snow Shoes , Elephant Soup Spoon..
@loubydal7812
Жыл бұрын
I agree with you, the neck design should have evolved to a scarf joint, the volute carve, or also a laminate neck like Guild jazz guitars. It's true Gibson necks are too fragile. I find absurd that Gibson justifies this design because of tradition, because it creates its signature sound (selling nonsense, no significant difference ), and maybe don't want to change production rigs or templates, but in the end would benefit the company overall. Too entrenched mindset. No surprise why innovators like Seth Lover and Bill Lawrence left Gibson.
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