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@doophin4793
Жыл бұрын
hi
@clashfraser6663
Жыл бұрын
Hi
@chancebishop6213
Жыл бұрын
Hi actman
@houstilicious
Жыл бұрын
YOOOOO
@ObsidianAnimation2112
Жыл бұрын
Clan
@DismayingHades6
Жыл бұрын
"it's not because it's the right thing to do, it's because they're getting sued" always straight facts
@DismayingHades6
Жыл бұрын
thank you senpai!
@adamc117
Жыл бұрын
Sounds like black ops 3
@DismayingHades6
Жыл бұрын
Holy cow I've never had a comment with over 1k likes ty everyone
@Naptosis
Жыл бұрын
@@DismayingHades6 well done. Don't forget to put it on your résumé!
@DismayingHades6
Жыл бұрын
@@Naptosis if i don't get a promotion ima be pissed off
@dono1483
Жыл бұрын
This reminds me of the lightbulb problem I learned about in school. It is scientifically possible to make a lightbulb that lasts for a lifetime, however these lightbulbs would cause a negative economic impact for the producers, so they instead produce inferior lightbulbs. It is a similar case for games, it’s not about making the best game anymore, it’s about player retention and milking the customers out of their time and money.
@mryellow6918
Жыл бұрын
except its much eaiser to make it a good game and milk money, its just they dont, because they cant see more than 1 years into the future on their earnings, just want a quick buck
@tincanstantheman
Жыл бұрын
The lightbulb problem isn't actually real though, someone invents a lifetime lightbulb and then they make all the money, yes they go out of business in years, they still made tons of money among the way. They haven't actually invented the perfect lightbulb, and if they could they would.
@mryellow6918
Жыл бұрын
@@tincanstantheman well I mean it is. It's like the sole reason cars exist as they do today
@tincanstantheman
Жыл бұрын
@@mryellow6918 it's not my friend, would you buy a lightbulb that never goes out? If you answered yes, would you still buy it for $500? What about those lightbulbs that change colors? Do you want those too? A lightbulb that never goes out would make tons of money and companies know this, yet we as consumers want more than just a working lightbulb. Just like how a cat getting us from A to B isn't enough, we need comfort, ease, safety e.t.c. your getting stuck on this idea that we could have this ideal and near perfect car, lightbulb, e.t.c, but the reality is they can't invent a car with near infinite milage or a lightbulb that never breaks and if they did they would make tons of money and people would still want a car that self drives and makes coffee or whatever other future invention.
@Thanatos2k
Жыл бұрын
Lightbulb problem doesn't exist. If every company makes disposable light bulbs, you could come into the industry and offer your lifetime bulbs and everyone would buy them. Then you simply stop production and keep your profits once the market has purchased enough.
@piyerus1153
Жыл бұрын
The smart move used to be "never pre-order games. Wait until release to see if it sucks or not". Now that's being pushed forward to "Wait a year or two after release before you buy a game, to see if they fix it to be playable, or if the game dies and wouldn't have been worth putting time into to begin with".
@Chris-jt4pl
Жыл бұрын
exactly. was just saying this the other day
@AcerSense
Жыл бұрын
Glad i did not pre order anything until the game launches. Then i decide to buy it or not
@dragonmaster3030
Жыл бұрын
Main reason I don't buy online only games, once it's dead it's dead, plug gets pulled, all your time wasted, any money spent wasteful. At least in a single player game when a game loses its community or popularity the game stays, it will always be their, always playable, even if it has online functions only those will be shutdown
@HaraldQuake
Жыл бұрын
But then you miss out on all time limited stuff and the fact that a game is new and hyped.. For me it's good to see a game grow over time.. Up to a certain point...
@UNSCPILOT
Жыл бұрын
I've gone far enough to start emulating old games or just returning to games I've already enjoyed because almost nothing new interests me at all, the only game I'm hesitantly looking forward to is Kerbal Space Program 2
@nugg3tz347
Жыл бұрын
“I’m a human being, I have a limited time on this planet. I’m not going to spend it eating garbage.” A beautiful quote I will remember for all life decisions.
@MundaneThingsBackwards
7 ай бұрын
...Anyway, here's an ad sponsored by Grand Mafia World Planet City! Be sure to click the link, folks!
@Ender11037
4 ай бұрын
Annnnd yet McDonald's exists. /s
@skyeunknown8076
2 ай бұрын
@@MundaneThingsBackwards yeah dude is such a hypocrite
@itsyaboiguzma
Жыл бұрын
I can't believe Act Man and his team got the comment section working as soon as the video went up. What a God of a developer.
@TheActMan
Жыл бұрын
Just doing my job, sir
@WespectRamen
Жыл бұрын
@@TheActMan all hail the Acting Male
@jack_corvinus
Жыл бұрын
@@TheActMan good soldiers follow orders
@rear5118
Жыл бұрын
What a G.O.A.T. for not putting the comment section in the battle pass
@counterfeit4450
Жыл бұрын
@@rear5118 this shit is definitely getting pay walled next video. Don’t hold your breath.
@djpendellmusic
Жыл бұрын
It’s crazy how we are now in a place where teams upon teams of people with massive budgets make a insanely worse product than a small indie studio.
@insomniagobrrr5542
Жыл бұрын
Indie devs actually give a shit
@EngieMak
Жыл бұрын
Limitation breeds creativity
@ghostplasma5590
Жыл бұрын
When you give it more thought it is not. Try to make a game as big as Cyberpunk for example as an indie developer. I guarantee it will be 1828281 times worse than what we got. I think it's unfair to compare games that are a few times bigger in size and complexity and just praose indie developers becouse their smaller game is better.
@ghostplasma5590
Жыл бұрын
What would be more fair is to compare a small game made by a studio and a small game made by an indie developer. But then it won't fit people's argument so why would you right?
@aubreyhuff46
Жыл бұрын
@@ghostplasma5590 Depends.
@GointSmoker
Жыл бұрын
I think the problem is that the line between "Live Service" and "Early Access" has been blurred to the point where companies are just churning out half-finished products just to try and make money while promising to constantly improve. I don't want a game to NEED to constantly improve in order to be playable.
@yarugatyger1603
Жыл бұрын
The problem is that they're satisfied with the unfinished product but not satisfied with their income and push out more unfinished content instead of bringing something finished out. Quantity over quality. Hate that mentality, ruins their reputation too hopefully.
@KarlRock
Жыл бұрын
And we thought Halo couldn’t get any worse… Nek minute “LIVE SERVICE!”
@thevinlanddragon
Жыл бұрын
Woah dude you were selected for a prize you better "hit him above". Whatever that means.
@HamzahShoaib
Жыл бұрын
Assalam
@coolcatvibes5491
Жыл бұрын
@@HamzahShoaib wa alaikum assalam
@MrLeanscott
Жыл бұрын
Nek services
@dom4591
Жыл бұрын
Free to play and live service killed Halo. Makes it feel like a dollar store game
@goodstuff4987
Жыл бұрын
I was certain that live service was just a fancy way to say it's unfinished and we'll make it a glimmer of what we promised in two years
@nigeltheoutlaw
Жыл бұрын
That's all any of them are. Profit now, lie about improvements later, then abandon the game once it doesn't turn a profit since there's zero consequences for openly lying to consumers anymore.
@goodstuff4987
Жыл бұрын
@@nigeltheoutlaw nobody couldn't have said it any fucking better dude
@4bidn1
Жыл бұрын
@@goodstuff4987 Nobody could have* "nobody couldnt have said it any better" is a double negative so you're basically saying "literally anyone could have said it better"
@ivanbilobrk4696
Жыл бұрын
@@4bidn1 nobody gives a shit
@Nameless2004
Жыл бұрын
@@4bidn1 grammar nazi
@blaniac6591
Жыл бұрын
I don’t think it’s a coincidence that every game we find ourselves going back to play for the 500th time almost all exclusively come from the days of DLC content. There isn’t a single live service game that I’ve even *thought* of playing more than once.
@Xderda
Жыл бұрын
We need more dev teams as passionate as the ones who gave us Deep Rock Galactic.
@watchoutforwhoyoupissoff3046
Жыл бұрын
rock and stone!
@sokolov49
Жыл бұрын
you mean 1 update per year with no endgame galactic?
@hdb999
Жыл бұрын
@@watchoutforwhoyoupissoff3046 Did I hear a rock and stone?
@hdb999
Жыл бұрын
@@sokolov49 Still more updates that Halo Infinite...
@iamlucidess
Жыл бұрын
DRG is great but Warframe is a premium example of a live service game that works, and gets consistent updates with content drops. I don't see yong yea or other big youtubers complain about how high priced Platinum is, or how the game rarely respects your time, or it's too hard for new players, etc. Nobody complains. Not a lot of story progression, but theres so much to do, and so many guns to fire.
@paulaccuardi9071
Жыл бұрын
Does anyone else remember when they actually owned their games and didn’t require a service from the company in order to play them?
@peytonshek9309
Жыл бұрын
@ESO
@AffogatoAnime
Жыл бұрын
Yep
@dwightd.eisenhower2031
Жыл бұрын
@@AffogatoAnime anime 🤮🤮
@Puppetmaster2005
Жыл бұрын
I member. T.T
@Sliider36
Жыл бұрын
remember? ive never really let go... im a retro collector. i have a room full of hundreds of games & consoles. some of us will never give in to this digital trash. remember? some of us are still gaming that way, both retro & current. physical forever.
@adenhickman5780
9 ай бұрын
Hey guys, I think the devs might have abandoned this video
@danic_c
Жыл бұрын
I think one of the games that pioneered the live service format as we know it today was Team Fortress 2 and its updates. However, the reason it was good, and continues to be fun to play EVEN after the live service aspect has been almost completely abandoned for several years, is because the game that the live updates built upon was *already* a pretty rock solid experience on launch.
@Artician
Жыл бұрын
What's funny is that microsoft wanted valve to pay for any updates shipped for the xbox 360 version of tf2 after 2009, and since valve refused to do that, it basically caused said version to be considered a playable alternate timeline.
@colinmurphy962
Жыл бұрын
@@Artician Are we the alternate gaming timeline???
@revenant2550
Жыл бұрын
I blame netflix
@rebotsomat
Жыл бұрын
Yeah but lets not forget they helped start lootboxes
@dearprudish
Жыл бұрын
@@rebotsomat TF2 started it, but CS:GO took loot boxes to the next level, and propelled them to the front of every triple A game.
@thepizzaman2013
Жыл бұрын
"Greed can make a person sloppy, hotshot. Remember that." -From a Character in a Free to Play Game that was released back in 2013 and still standing strong with no live-service shenanigans.
@paullucas9536
Жыл бұрын
Little Duck baby
@thepizzaman2013
Жыл бұрын
@@paullucas9536 Hell yeah.
@Brother_O4TS
Жыл бұрын
I love me a Warframe reference
@whysoserious4274
Жыл бұрын
A free to play game done right.
@hackergaming6372
Жыл бұрын
What game?
@MoonWielder
Жыл бұрын
We want to seek fun games to enjoy ourselves, as they only seek out profit margins for themselves. The live service system really does seem to trap players into spending as much as possible for progression on one game and a sunk-cost fallacy for cosmetics.
@jmurray1110
Жыл бұрын
It feels like only don’t had actual done anything Say what you want but GoW, Spider-Man these games have done things right they were full games on release single player exclusive and worked The sequels also when Miles is smaller but it’s still fun and doesn’t even have the DLC like the original (at this point any DLC is a turn off) and ragnarok while more expensive seems like it’s going to be an improvement on the original (cautious optimism seems wise) and given the head designer on 2018 is unlikely to sell DLC
@masterchief1135
Жыл бұрын
Hey act man just wanted to say I been going through depression and your videos really been cheering me up and I been needing that. Thank you for all the content and effort you put into them. Cheers all the way from Australia
@deenanthekemoni5567
Жыл бұрын
You doing any better bro?
@lukep757
Жыл бұрын
Stay strong man. Been there. It can get better. Eat well, go for a run, talk to people, and stay sober. That's the best basic advice I can give you to help.
@jirden
5 ай бұрын
@@lukep757 replace "go for a run" with "join a kickboxing gym" and you just perfectly described what helped me overcome my post-divorce depression :)
@starwatcherusa
Жыл бұрын
I think its important to remind ourselves that, just like film, this trend is almost exclusively happening in the AAA gaming space. There is still plenty of heart, passion, creativity and good will in the lower key AA and indie game scenes.
@Spearra
Жыл бұрын
Case and point: "Madness: Project Nexus 2, Terraria, Voxel Turf". All of those games, everything is unlockable or earned in game and basically nowhere else. No DLC fuckery, just free updates. One time purchase, yet more gameplay to be had than most modern AAA games.
@Theeight8b
Жыл бұрын
@@Spearra I'd added two more games for this list: Warframe and Deep Rock Galactic. Constant updates, that bring a lot of new stuff to play with.
@Theeight8b
Жыл бұрын
@@JL32506 Well, rotation of alerts and etc - is not new, i'm agree. But is seems they added a few more missions for Kahl and, well, Veilbreaker is a filler content, to keep players busy before next big update. And yeah, a couple of new toys for warframes and new cosmetics, that you can grab by doing daily\weekly - is always good.
@botondkunos1774
Жыл бұрын
Gigabash rocks!
@justanotherperson7774
Жыл бұрын
Not all hope is lost
@jessicasretrolunacy
Жыл бұрын
The biggest problem with "Modern Gaming" and the live service model is how much power has been taken away from the players. The corpos get to decide how long games are even available, and with all digital content we've lost the ability to fight back.
@Oolong_Bagged
Жыл бұрын
He put into words what we've all been slowing getting dragged across our faces for years. The passion has been just run ragged out of game developers by the people in charge of monetization. It's no longer about a good story, it's about selling you the next book.
@giorgialadashvili4771
Жыл бұрын
And not even a well-written book. I don't know how, but modern games, often written by people with academic background in writing and literature, somehow turn out to be much inferior plot- and dialogue-wise than old games which were often written by laymen.
@pierre-mariecaulliez6285
Жыл бұрын
@@giorgialadashvili4771 One word for you : controversy Like he said, they won't release something they might get sued over. Yelled at ? "boycotted" ? Perfect ! free press ! but nothing that will actually cost them a cent... Whatever story could be written, whichever feverdreams the writers could tell, it's gotta clear a regiment of lawyers before it's greenlit. And with so much grinding, you can expect the end result to have lost some of its edge.
@joshjonson2368
Жыл бұрын
@@giorgialadashvili4771 this is what happens when those tumblr bloggers are given a job lol, they pour their mind diahorrea into fully fledged products
@Scroolewse
Жыл бұрын
Watch "extra punctuation Live service games are dying" for some hopium
@asdf-pd1uj
Жыл бұрын
Deep Rock Galactic and Ghost Ship Games gets everything right about a Live-Service game. The devs listen to the community, and have an amazing theming to updates. In addition to an amazing game, it's so fresh and nice to see a game not rotten by corporate greed.
@funklebunk7249
Жыл бұрын
Ironically the game is about corporate greed. I love it and take it as a jab at the current state of the industry.
@joshuahales641
Жыл бұрын
rock and stone
@stephanwyrsta376
Жыл бұрын
@@joshuahales641 to the bone
@PureEvil616
Жыл бұрын
Not to mention that their "season pass" is the most consumer friendly model that ever existed. It's free, and if you don't unlock everything in a season, all of those things end up in the regular loot pool anyway, so you never fully lose anything. Not to mention the game is just so gorram fun. ROCK AND STONE, YEEEEEEAAAAAAH!!!
@joeytheghost4211
Жыл бұрын
@@stephanwyrsta376 FOR KARL!
@splycerrr
Жыл бұрын
7:25 I see what you did there damn you
@drauc
Жыл бұрын
Your videos are god tier. They always articulate thoughts I myself have had but have never been able to put into words. It's crazy how much I relate to basically all of your videos. Thanks for doing what you do, always excited to see any content you put out.
@TheActMan
Жыл бұрын
Thank you, kind sir!
@Wasattsi
Жыл бұрын
For real man. I agree with like 90% of his opinions, it’s wild.
Agreed, act man always seems to be spot on when it comes to his opinion on video games and gaming as a whole, act man along with jev are the two best content creators in my opinion
@5FingerBallad
Жыл бұрын
This is what I love about Act Man, even though he has 10 min vids to make bank, and takes bags from shitty mobile games, he is TRANSPARENT that he is getting payed to advertise products that he does not support whole-heartingly and leaves a timecode to skip the add. He is making us aware of the real game behind KZitem, without lying that he actually thinks these are good products.
@Polarbearsatemylunch
Жыл бұрын
"Because that's when you can put mid-rolls in" followed be an instantaneous ad and I couldn't even be mad
@stanfordsan
Жыл бұрын
@@Polarbearsatemylunch I laughed so hard when that happened, I even got an Xbox live ad.
@scwibble1579
5 ай бұрын
Helldivers 2 now is one of the most amazing example of how to properly make a beautiful live service game by making the lore and content drops revolve around player actions while building the world out alongside it
@larrylindgren9484
4 ай бұрын
They have said they want to be the new Blizzard. People forget Blizzard was once an amazing game making company. It wasn't released until it was done. If they can do that, they'll sell games and make money. But greed is powerful. Every great game company falls to the master, greed. It's sad to see Blizzard now. It was once a place people wanted to work at. It was a place that made great games. Now? Greed got them. Money above making a great game. It's sad because it wasn't always like this.
@robotgirlenjoyer91
Жыл бұрын
when gaming becomes more of a job than an entertainment to wind down, relax and just... have fun playing it.
@nigeltheoutlaw
Жыл бұрын
That's what turned me off of Destiny 2. Constant FOMO and making you feel obligated to make it a daily thing. What is it, a naggy girlfriend? No thanks. Game isn't even that good.
@oxsila
Жыл бұрын
@@nigeltheoutlaw I don't understand why you can't just buy each expansion and enjoy the 20-30 hours you get out of it? You don't have to play the crappy seasonal stuff. The expansions are great. Other games charge $70 for the same game length that Destiny expansions bring
@nigeltheoutlaw
Жыл бұрын
@@oxsila I can, I'm just not going to. They should try respecting my time and just give me the fun instead of trying to milk ever more out of me. A I said, the game isn't even that good.
@redseagaming7832
Жыл бұрын
Back when Jim Sterling was amazing I remember when he said the video game industry would rather make no money then some money every game has to be a Titanic movie success or we're not going to make it
@oxsila
Жыл бұрын
@@nigeltheoutlaw The witch queen is the best campaign to date but ok
@GreenDayRules92
Жыл бұрын
Act Man and Angry Joe being homies is something the internet needed, and I am here for it.
@lazyvoid7107
Жыл бұрын
Joe? Ew no
@Banch21
Жыл бұрын
@@lazyvoid7107 Joe Mama
@wrenboy2726
Жыл бұрын
ANGRY Joe, the guy who starts all of his “angry” reviews by softly, sweet talking into the camera “hey you guys. ☺️ Thanks for watching we spent a lot of time on this one. Sorry it came out a day later than expected. 😋 Anyways just wanted to say thanks for the support and don’t forget to order some g-fuel 🤪 ok now off you go ad enjoy how angry I am 😌”
@lazyvoid7107
Жыл бұрын
@@Banch21 I have my reasons kid
@dontbememeist497
Жыл бұрын
Primo content. Well thought out humor, stellar production value, cohesive arguments and good points to make. The Act Man makes what he thinks is fun for the community, and what he wants to make. Cultivating an audience around that, and not around a super specific type of content is, in my opinion, the best way to do it. Absolute banger here, I'll never not watch an Act Man video.
@TheActMan
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the good vibes and quality comment 😎
@keagancloete
Жыл бұрын
I absolutely couldn't agree more with this but what makes me sad and quite honestly lose hope is that the majority of people just either don't think about it or don't care. It's so damn frustrating...
@chaosmagican
Жыл бұрын
I would assume the majority of gamers today don't even know what it means to play a game that has the first goal of being fun. With no ingame monetization at all
@ashishshenoy3778
Жыл бұрын
most gamers dont give a fuck, honestly. They just come home from work and lay on the couch and swipe for more gems or whatever
@Orcawhale1
Жыл бұрын
How does it feel to live long enough to see all your favorite franchises go down in flames?
@blahblahgdp
Жыл бұрын
the classic "Dont play it, its not for u arguement" literally doesnt matter cause all these drones just burnt out enough to give a shit and throw money at whatever little thing gives them a little bit of dopamine.
@shockmazta3116
Жыл бұрын
As a guy that plays really only SP games, and some MP with friends on occasion, I really don't care. If the game has such a shitty model *cough*haloinfinite*cough* I just won't play and will not feel bad for it. It's really easy to say "Meh, I hate that. Oh well." And then stop playing. It really is. Nothing we say can nor will change the industry, so why fight it?
@CQBlitz0
Жыл бұрын
This is why I love Titanfall 2. It was a true AAA game. It was a finished product that needed some touch-ups over time and new content was added that benefitted gameplay and customization. As well as “pay for what you want”
@PaletteBegonia
Жыл бұрын
Ahhhh Titanfall… :’) A better period within gaming for sureeee 🔥🔥🔥🔥
@alfredoamendez4299
Жыл бұрын
It is such a waste just how abandoned that game is... i tried playing multiplayer and... there's so few players, it needs more attention and love :(
@bellman4336
Жыл бұрын
Yes, titanfall 2 was one of the good ones.
@CQBlitz0
Жыл бұрын
@@alfredoamendez4299 yeah. It’s playerbase, albeit small, is super dedicated to keeping their game alive.
@manny2696
Жыл бұрын
@@alfredoamendez4299 im down do download it again if you trying to spread the word. whats good brah. Titanfall 2 is my top 3
@vangboi05
Жыл бұрын
I really hope there's something like the crash back in the 80's. That's what the industry could use it with micro transactions, loot boxes and live services. Hopefully it will revitalize the gaming industry.
@shudust
Жыл бұрын
i love your mentality towards greed and how it gets in the way of genuine, authentic, captivating game design and artistic expression overall.
@Prod.Nov4_defunctchannel
Жыл бұрын
It's insane to me how companies are so focused on results and not fun, when in fact a fun game brings the best results with even a generous monetization system.
@PatriotArro
Жыл бұрын
I wish this were true. Games get the best reviews and a lot of accolades on sites like KZitem when they're fun, but in the end reviews and videos from people like Act Man don't make the bulk of a game's potential earnings. but crap mobile games that nickle and dime people into oblivion make a game like Elden Ring look like it was practically given out for free. The results speak for themselves. We just romanticize otherwise.
@HannyaHalo
Жыл бұрын
Somehow in 1 year I went from being excited to hearing the words live service to feeling nothing but dread.
@barrymacdonald3439
Жыл бұрын
I'm dreading es6 because of this cause you know creation club will have half the games content drip fed to you at $10\€10 each and if you ad it all up you will see you will it will cost over a grand if you want all the bells and whistles it's a dark future and modding the game will be a night mare as well cause you know the game will update every week and mod creators will have to do updated every week to keep up. I hope I'm wrong but I see it happening.
@moderndemon84
Жыл бұрын
24:40 “They grow up loyal to the Republic, or they don’t grow up at all.”
@mattxstarx
Жыл бұрын
wow, this video is really making me appreciate the design philosophy for the monster hunter series right now. sure they have been recently scrutinized for having added some paid dlc cosmetics, but in comparison for what you can get by just having fun and playing the game any way you want AND still get rewarded for it, it's pretty small in the grand scheme of things. plz never change capcom monster hunter team!
@StevoStaple
Жыл бұрын
Monster hunter will always be amazing
@yotosfuneral
Жыл бұрын
exactly. i just wish more game developers could be like them without making monetization the primary focus over player enjoyment
@venomousasian6579
Жыл бұрын
@@yotosfuneral MH World is so THICC with content and grind, then they have a dlc which is BIGGER than the base game, so DAMN JUICY
@yotosfuneral
Жыл бұрын
@@venomousasian6579 yes brooo. even the old ds monster hunters are packed full considering the device they are on. like monetization in games isn’t adherently bad no matter what. but when it becomes a higher priority than the actual game being good itself is when it’s a problem. but capcom is extremely generous with their cosmetics and everything essential to gameplay is free. which honestly makes me a lot more willing to spend money on a weapon skin here or there in rise. meanwhile blizzard will not be getting a single dime from me, charging me for skins i used to have for free all in the name of “well it’s free now so how else is our multi billion dollar company gonna pay for all of the content we didn’t add yet because we’re still working on it 🥺🥺🥺”
@lexif.8609
Жыл бұрын
I would play Call of Duty instantly if Act Man Appeared on screen to give a thumbs up every time my team took the lead.
@ryant2568
Жыл бұрын
Games as a service in principle is a fantastic idea, the game keeps getting updates fixing bugs, and introducing new content to keep players engaged. The issue comes when publishers start trying to squeeze every last penny out of a customer with in-game purchases that are effectively required to keep playing the game that the customer already paid for.
@ZackarySchejbalCODBO2RGM2
Жыл бұрын
Great examples of a good take on these: Fall Of Cybertron and Black Ops 2. Black Ops 2 was a game you bought at $60 and every say 3 months they released a new $15 DLC with 4 multiplayer maps and a zombies map (at times a new weapon like the Peacekeeper and in Zombies the Mark 2 Ray Gun). Launch 4-6 DLCs to keep them hooked. Fall Of Cybertron is an excellent example because of the community that even after years since the multiplayer servers died the community (the fanbase community) *ACTUALLY* put dedication into resurrecting the multiplayer servers of the game! And it did have like 4 $15 DLCs that gave you customization options. But the fact is they were only cosmetics that weren't necessary! And it was grindy of a game yes, but I managed to max level (even presteige) that game by grinding that cost nothing! If your game can last like how Fall of Cybertron did, you know it's a legendary game.
@evacody1249
Жыл бұрын
So the people who keep the servers going should just work for free then?
@ZackarySchejbalCODBO2RGM2
Жыл бұрын
@@evacody1249 You mean the Fall Of Cybertron servers?
@Foxfire-xq5ij
Жыл бұрын
Except I liked being able to clone Pokémon in gold and silver and catching pokemon with the long range trainer glitch. And duplicating items is always a feature and not a bug and shouldn’t be patched out…..
@gendoslice5971
Жыл бұрын
amazing monologue my dude! really encapsulates the world of gaming we are in now. currently really into the 7 year old beta that is escape from tarkov, im already loving it, but the veterans are getting bored with it. the game im helping test today, will not be the game i eventually play upon its release, i just hope it has the same soul they intended to eventually breath life into at the beginning of its conceptualization.
@Aqueox
Жыл бұрын
Tarkov is a fucking terrible game once you get past the honeymoon phase. Enjoy it while it lasts, you would have loved 2017-2020 Tarkov.
@jairdinh7563
Жыл бұрын
I think deep rock is one of the only games that does a seasonal pass correctly all missed cosmetics go into the orignal lootpools its completely free and it has a genius way of unlocking cosmetics through the cosmetic tree. This games only monetization comes from the optional dlc packs that do not impact gameplay at all.
@blob22201
Жыл бұрын
Deep Rock does pretty much everything right.
@HaroldMarina2010
Жыл бұрын
Rock and stone brother! and yea in my opinion it does handle it really well
@snorlaxRMO
Жыл бұрын
Great video. The live service business model has truly been a disaster for games/gamers in recent years. It turns out that diminishing the quality of what is being offered in the pursuit of squeezing every last bit of profit out of one's consumer base has consequences.
@graye2799
Жыл бұрын
16:50 the funny thing is though that that rarely ever happens. When the devs add a requested or popular feature, it normally increases player time. I can't think of a time where a game added a awesome feature that reduced play time.
@montypython5521
Жыл бұрын
Seriously, I can't think of it as anything other than someone in the company wants to destroy the game every time I see it. No score board, disbanding lobbies, no slayer only playlist, I can't imagine what insane focus groups they had to have to reach the conclusion that that will lead to more player retention.
@ImInForAWuppin
Жыл бұрын
@@montypython5521 Two words. Bottom. Fragger. Consider the absolute explosion of casuals over the last 5-10 years who have absolutely zero interest in getting better and only care about being rewarded regardless, people who don't want to see themselves doing poorly, play long enough with a group to get recognized as the weak link, or get fragged 10 times a minute. Those who are bad at the game don't have to feel so bad if they, and everyone around them, have a difficult time recognizing that they suck. It's the participation trophy mentality, because EA and friends can't have little Timmy feeling bad and quitting their game, can they? How would he buy battle pass levels if that happened!
@rabituin1474
Жыл бұрын
@@ImInForAWuppin That "doesn't want to get better but still wants rewards" description basically sums me up (in some games at least). But the thing is, i wanna have a scoreboard and all that stuff. I'm trash, but that shouldn't hinder other peoples experience of the game
@kendarr
Жыл бұрын
@@rabituin1474 I think most bad casuals would just feel bad with the scoreboard
@electronresonator8882
Жыл бұрын
offline grinding mode, have you tried black spirit mobile?, you can just set where you hunt and go offline, your character will hunt for 3 hours in that spot, ...6 hours if you use special cash item
@pyrelord8763
7 ай бұрын
i burst out laughing when a mid-roll ad started playing right in the middle of “thats when we can play a mid-roll”.
@niemand7811
Жыл бұрын
For that reason I wish myself back to when consoles were not online machines like they are today. Gaming was such an experience. You dug for the pearls and you kept them, still playing them today. No online scams, no unpolished games to make excuses for. Bad games got their bad rep and developers had to make it better next time. However not the Capcom way, mind you.
@CharlesVanNoland
Жыл бұрын
@7:02 That's the *exact* same vacuum that we have. I bought it at a Best Buy for ~$160 back in 2013 and have been coddling it along, making sure to keep it super clean and free of obstructions and whatnot that could cause it to burn up and die. It's falling apart but it still works and gets the job done. I'm always telling everyone how I have kept a disposable vacuum, that most people probably replaced after 2 years when it died for them, alive for a decade. Man, what a trip seeing someone else has the same one, the Hoover Windtunnel Air, model #UH70400.
@TSpoon823
Жыл бұрын
"I think just making good content should be the first and only goal because everything else will follow after that." Gold. Man if more people lived by that, we'd live in a different world.
@d01nut3
Жыл бұрын
I think a large part of why live service games are so popular (despite the growing resentiment) is that as video games get bigger, it gets harder and harder to meet those deadlines, so whatever isn't the barebones necessities get's pushed down for later down the line. I don't like this system, but I understand why it's here.
@meurer13daniel
Жыл бұрын
video games being more complex also leads to more issues. COD MW2 launched in a broken state not because IW is incompetent (maybe a little), but because the game needed to be ready at this month and there wasn't any room for a delay (cod must launch in november because holyday sales). Not enough time for development.
@d01nut3
Жыл бұрын
Yeah, that's what I was trying to get across, if the suits could give games more time, I think live services could work.
@FlyingKing8
Жыл бұрын
Putting an ad at 7:30 was genius
@thatboymeak
Жыл бұрын
If you’re talking about 7 Days to Die on console, then yes that actually was a scam. It was ported to console by a company who quickly gave up on it and eventually lost the rights to the Ip, so while everyone was expecting the same experience as PC they actually got a version of the game that hadn’t been updated for arguably 5 years or more. Pretty sure it was more expensive on console too which just adds insult to injury.
@forfuchsake2254
Жыл бұрын
Yeah the game was horrible on console
@joshnykolaishen4657
Жыл бұрын
Your wrong my guy telltale went under and that was the publisher and they lost the rights had to buy the ip back and then hire a new team to port over I can get why y'all were upset with 7 days but there literally no more then 30 people working on it don't expect something revolutionary and amazing it's a indie game 🤦
@forfuchsake2254
Жыл бұрын
@@joshnykolaishen4657 The thing is that we can actually still expect a bit more than that since the devs only add more and more content nobody but never really improve graphics, animations or performance.
@joshnykolaishen4657
Жыл бұрын
@@forfuchsake2254 wdym they update pc graphics and stuff constantly and if your gunna say console it's cause they don't do console ports or anything that's why they hire another company or publisher like telltale to port
@forfuchsake2254
Жыл бұрын
@@joshnykolaishen4657 I'm not talking about console and I played from alpha 14 to 19 and it still looks aweful and has terrible animations
@billybadass3056
Жыл бұрын
best live service game..... Dragonball The Breakers............ now give me my likes u lameAzNerdBOTs
@sharkuel
Жыл бұрын
Worked like a charm.
@Matizicov
Жыл бұрын
Yeah yeah, don't spend it all in one place, pal
@gagelink2457
Жыл бұрын
Jesus this guy's humor is gold and he someone never over does it.
@whateverDude031294
Жыл бұрын
Right!? That opening bit was genius.
@birdtj82
Жыл бұрын
NO, seriously. This guy is typical nerd bully look for online validation. He got into a fight with a youtuber recently , n he was threatening that guy to “Mu*der “ the dude etc its so disturbing. There are videos out there exposing him.He is closet bully childish yet intallorate ppl hold diff thought process/opinion. N he rages.
@pogethedoge
Жыл бұрын
Can't wait for the new live service chess game. Apparently they're gonna be adding a new store. I can buy Queens now
@izzy4471
Жыл бұрын
We are witnessing the slow death of gaming, hope some devs can get up ahead of this and stop the rot, just make a solid polished product that we don’t mind paying for
@RusticRonnie
Жыл бұрын
Indie games
@RusticRonnie
Жыл бұрын
Also capcom… some how. Didn’t think i would think of then 10 years ago
@yamnbam4346
Жыл бұрын
Only triple A gaming is dying tbh. Gaming is booming as always. It’ll never die off, not unless we invent some device that materializes our thoughts, or until our extinction.
@RockstarMazy
Жыл бұрын
I 💯% agree with this
@fanofgaming8403
Жыл бұрын
If you think the gaming industry is dying, I suggest you try other games like indie games. You're just only seeing the AAA side of games.
@uvarighalvarado8677
Жыл бұрын
I haven't finished watching the video but I have to say, your audio levels are always on point! There are some youtubers I really like that sometimes their audio is a mess, I have to get maximum volume to be able to hear them when I'm doing something else like my elliptical bike training and suddenly I'm getting deaf because their volume levels is a mess. So whoever does your audio is doing an amazing job. Congrats.
@michaelp4387
Жыл бұрын
7:29 just as you said the words "mid roll ads", ads started to play. Genius demonstration
@sleepeasyfriends3149
Жыл бұрын
I can’t believe I’m almost 30 and still playing video games. When I was a kid and played halo 2 and gears of war and cod 4 I just wondered what the future held for video games and to think these games don’t have the same amount of features as they did then and the amount of games left unfinished and later abandoned is so damn sad
@davidordaz5251
Жыл бұрын
Same im 28 and can remember a time when games were finished and didnt involve updates and adding more content to games that should be finished to begin with.
@georgejones5019
Жыл бұрын
I'm 30, and I feel like games have somehow went backwards. Halo Inifite is such a great example.
@Opachki69420
Жыл бұрын
If mw2009 didnt have the huge internal conflict of infinity ward to kill the development of the game it was supposed to be the most supported game they had made to date
@iggytheincubus
Жыл бұрын
Deep Rock Galactic is an excellent example of a live service game done right. I encourage people to check it out.
@MrNevin
Жыл бұрын
Rock and Stone Brother!
@EpilepticGoth
Жыл бұрын
That and Payday 2, at least on PC. Unfortunately on Console, Payday 2 was discontinued due to the Game Engine's difficulty to transfer to Console.
@GameGuide2020
Жыл бұрын
for rock and stone
@iamlucidess
Жыл бұрын
DRG is fun but it feels like theres something missing in the content department. It's repetitive, but the moment you try Lethal 5 difficulty, the game becomes a butt clencher. I'm playing it right now and for awhile though because my family is playing it and trying to catch up to elite deep diving.
@sambonbon755
Жыл бұрын
Rock And Stoooooone ! For real, the season 3 is great
@durandol
Жыл бұрын
DRG is the only "live service" game I can think of that actually uses the potential promised by the concept to make the game better for the player's enjoyment.
@djuzgar
Жыл бұрын
Rock and Stone!
@Epicurus0
Жыл бұрын
And includes no FOMO elements in it from the start. No FOMO Event Pass, Weekly Challenge Reward, Shop, Drops (TV drops, twitch drops, etc.) none of that shit. Because the people in charge love their game over money!
@onesandzeroes7390
Жыл бұрын
Rock.. and ... STOOONNNEEEEE
@princeofrance
Жыл бұрын
Rock and stone brother !
@damir_van_kalaz
Жыл бұрын
And, coincidentally, beats Vermintide 2's playercounts by a longshot. It's almost as if actually respecting your players, their time, and their money instead of milking them for every second and every penny you can squeeze out of them causes them to respect you in turn and to actually stick around for the new content you're releasing. Who'd have guessed?
@justinmercado1185
3 ай бұрын
Anybody noticed the hypocrisy of complaining about live service game and sponsoring one?
@LateNightHalo
Жыл бұрын
One of us should release a half finished video with errors, audio bugs and end the video early. The video title: the live service video: bug fixes coming in 5 months
@dannywantsabiscut2897
Жыл бұрын
16:21 welp thats definetly gonna be the most replayed part of the video by next week
@discipleofdeath2517
Жыл бұрын
Deep Rock Galactic is a perfect example of live service
@razorbackroar
Жыл бұрын
Love that game
@AlwinoFloyd
Жыл бұрын
ROCK AND STONE
@CBRN-115
Жыл бұрын
DID I HEAR A ROCK AND STONE?
@mononoke721
Жыл бұрын
@@CBRN-115 ROCK. AND. STOOOOOOOONNNNE!
@qbob3530
Жыл бұрын
Yeah, until central server is up. And when the time comes, you would not be able to play game you've bought. Because, as Scott Ross said, games as a service is fraud.
@TheNoodle6
Жыл бұрын
I just really like your videos man. I look at you like, if we were co-workers at a job, somewhere along the line, we would be the ones always hanging out, and talking games and stuff, laughing. And NO DOUBT....there would be NON OSHA approved horseplay!! 😂 Keep up the good work man! Much success!!
@CongoTheBongo
10 ай бұрын
Ghey
@broccolinyu911
Жыл бұрын
This is one of many reasons why I respect indie games so much more.
@Felix-bj3rc
Жыл бұрын
I think a lot of issues in modern games could be solved if the studios actually played the games they make.
@theliberation9061
Жыл бұрын
Indeed. But the narcissistic trash cans in suits with sales director and CEO titles often barely give time for QA, never mind proper polishing and playtesting. The Excel graph must go up NOW.
@fumothfan9
Жыл бұрын
@@theliberation9061 p much. Games are less art now more business.
@jamaicanbobsledteam753
Жыл бұрын
You guys are spot on. Back in the day, a gaming studio consisted mostly of the programmers, art/musical directors, etc. Sales & marketing was a very small part of the developement process & was even outsourced. Now the studio's consist mainly of marketers & they outsource the programmers. Shambles.
@ethanor
Жыл бұрын
They don't have time to play games, they're busy counting all our money
@azoniarnl3362
Жыл бұрын
Or... STOP buying their shit! Nothing else is gonna make them change their ways..
@jacobgardiner9267
Жыл бұрын
This is why there are so many indie games that are also masterpieces like Hollow Knight or Terraria. The developers were trying to make an actually good game, not something that benefits them the most
@Wiseman108
Жыл бұрын
Games like Hollow Knight and Terraria are the exception, not the rule. There are way more bad indie games than there are good ones. Over the past 8 or so years I've played both Mainstream and Indie games in equal measure and both sides have plenty of problems.
@jacobgardiner9267
Жыл бұрын
@@Wiseman108 Yeah I know that, I was just talking about the good ones
@ashleighchance9420
Жыл бұрын
OMG! Terraria is one of my favourites. Spent nearly 2 hours building a home to suitably house 3 NPCs and accidently blow up part of the house and snuff out one NPC while trying to kill the Pink Slime boss. It's procedural, but there's also progress and I fell in love with my character build (all while using another world to farm currency). Terraria holds a special place in my heart.
@CExpress420
3 ай бұрын
"Because that's what we can put mid roll ads in" ad pops up. How did he do that
@scottgregory4101
Жыл бұрын
I wish we could force every game company to watch this, great video Act man
@harleyjay338
Жыл бұрын
the game companies know exactly what they are doing.
@scottgregory4101
Жыл бұрын
@@harleyjay338 very correct, but maybe as a hiring process
@sup1602
Жыл бұрын
@@harleyjay338 This, as long a gamers lap up this diarrhea, they will keep putting out this trash.
@hemicuda699
Жыл бұрын
They don't care, its what they want. They aren't doing this on accident.
@ramennight
Жыл бұрын
Needs to be the consumer so less fall for it, not the companies.
@skrounst
Жыл бұрын
THIS is important. Game devs pumping out games, hoping to not get sued is the new trope I hope to see gone ASAP. I literally don't get excited for new games anymore... and it's a damn tragedy.
@ernestgibson8792
Жыл бұрын
i feel ya. when i see a trailer for something that looks good my default thought is "i hope it doesnt suck"
@probablythedm1669
Жыл бұрын
@@ernestgibson8792 and even if it is good, I'll wait for the complete game to be on sale, like 2 years later, once the paid beta is usually over... 😧
@skrounst
Жыл бұрын
@@probablythedm1669 Yeah, I'll at least wait for a review from someone I trust. Not a paid review, or "woke" review... **cough** IGN... **cough**
@Magikarp-4ever
Ай бұрын
"...nowadays you're allowed to published half finished or poorly developed games as long as you say, it's shitty now but might get fixed later." Is about as close to summing up the entire industry for the past 15+ years as it will ever come
@Ty-bp1nl
Жыл бұрын
Yes! Glad this is being covered by you, Act Man! This is a huge issue with AAA games...
@geminimojo8019
Жыл бұрын
This is such a good video. I've been really thinking on this same subject recently, and I totally agree with you. Live services could be used to make the games great, but instead devs decided to just min max the process, and squeeze out all the cash they can.
@nsahandler
Жыл бұрын
I'm gonna have to object to one oversight: It started with No Man's Sky The second a AAA game was released to the world half-baked ... and then NOTHING HAPPENED despite literally nothing that was promised had been delivered, every single AAA studio realized that legally they could say "this is the standard industry practice."
@megalonoobiacinc4863
Жыл бұрын
great video, btw i loved 7Days2Die, but i guess i started when it was a lot more developed. Something about the atmosphere and the uncertainty (in the beginning) really dragged me into it
@brennanwn
Жыл бұрын
This is gonna be awesome discussion
@suomynona4420
Жыл бұрын
I remember the good ol' days of RuneScape. It was and still is my favorite example of a live service game done right.
@elhazthorn918
6 ай бұрын
We should stop calling them "live service" and instead, "games requiring life support."
@jacobfoxfires9647
Жыл бұрын
Act man really hit the nail on the head on how with live services, most people usually stick around a few games. They need to be really good and continuing to add more to an already good product is the way to go. And my favorite game, Deep Rock Galactic, has most of those possible trappings a bad live service could fall into, but doesn’t because it’s just a good and fun game to play.
@aquelgamermexicano
Жыл бұрын
I think Lanipator said it best: "The bottom line with Life Service Games, is that the game you bought might not be the same game later down the road".
@Ziko577
Жыл бұрын
I've seen this firsthand with the games my brother has played or currently does.
@sooperdude22
Жыл бұрын
My biggest gripe with Live Service games is that one day, servers supporting such games will shut down, and that means that games will be rendered permanently unplayable. Couple that with Triple A developers making *SINGLE PLAYER* games Live Services, and you can consider me disappointed in the sad state of modern gaming.
@pressedv3017
Жыл бұрын
America's Army and Ghost Recon Phantoms...and Hawken PC for me.
@SassyCoasted
3 ай бұрын
Live service is just an excuse for big companies to give you a half baked product and milk players for every dime you have. This is not to mention that some companies intentionally strip down games to the bare essentials so they can force a live service product.
@austintitsworth3885
Жыл бұрын
Such a great video and most developers can’t see stuff like this because they’re blinded by greed.
@wrenboy2726
Жыл бұрын
And most gamers can’t see stuff like this either because they’re gay.
@tigrex7403
Жыл бұрын
You mean publishers right?
@reapordeath
Жыл бұрын
Developers aren't the problem... usually.
@austintitsworth3885
Жыл бұрын
Well Activision for example is a developer, publisher, and distributor. EA is the same way… they’re so big that they are the mainframe behind their video games corruption lol I could’ve said leading developer or something but you get the idea.
@despicabletaylor
Жыл бұрын
These are the Act Man thesis videos that keep me subscribed. Love it. Love the sourcing. Love that you quoted James Stephanie Sterling properly (the goat at fighting this form of gameplay) just all around props Act Man
@lemur616
Жыл бұрын
Nice video man, maybe you should try a video about how this fares on the other side of the globe, with developers like Mihoyo, Nexon, Swift, and so many others that have contributed to this situation as well.
@josephdurham4950
Жыл бұрын
Battle passes wore on me so fast. I felt like I was playing when I didn't actually want to play cuz I had limited time to finish what I paid for.
@eddieb1995
Жыл бұрын
I got an ad exactly at 7:41 after he said the word ad and money 😭
@lt.reubenrozeyt5716
Жыл бұрын
Me too
@prokingownage
Жыл бұрын
You’re a god damn poet. Hoping someday the model changes where both sides are happy. Until then, I continue to wait for games to be finished. Pre-orders are just a gamble now.
@joellimon4124
4 ай бұрын
After a year I can finally watch this video without glitches, freezing or the audio getting cut down.
@CrashMcCloudX29
Жыл бұрын
I am horrified that at some point the season pass is going to be the game itself. "Want to play this game? $20 every few months"
@user-nn6go1jx1h
Жыл бұрын
That's a subscription service and has existed forever,that's how games like world of warcraft make their money.
@HASHEN_F0X
Жыл бұрын
Live service games remind me of Schrodinger's cat experiment; it's both dead and alive untill you open the box, or in this case, stop updating the game. So many games are currently stuck in a purgatory of being broken but also worked on; so long as there is still someone putting stuff out, the game has SOME sort of chance, sad part is that most don't get that level of polish we used to see with games back in the early 2000's, either because the devs don't know where to take the game, or the players are sold on something that is drastically changed over time. Used to be you'd buy a game and know what you're in for... Never again.
@arctrooper999
Жыл бұрын
"If the game sucks, and everyone stops playing....then who's the live service for?" I don't know why that line cracked me up. Thanks Act Man.
@hemicuda699
Жыл бұрын
That way the company to cut bait on the game while putting the least amount of effort into creating it.
@SmartestRick13
Жыл бұрын
Solution: play PS2
@mesi1402
4 ай бұрын
I'm not complaining
@StimmBehr
Жыл бұрын
Thank you Acting Male for pointing this out. I'm absolutely sick of games going FTP when they don't need to and not having any content while pushing a shop. Especially for franchises already established where the core gameplay isn't serviced at all by the monetization.
@quietspark8703
Жыл бұрын
Apparently I'm one of the few people who looks at battle-passes, gets overwhelmed and quits playing far sooner than I would if it didn't exist. I just have absolutely no desire to be psychologically manipulated by something I do for FUN.
@mismismism
Жыл бұрын
"Live Service" basically just means "We want money now, the only thing that works properly is the in-game cash shop but f**k it, buy it now andwe'll maybe fix it sometime, or not, we'll see"
@robertzombert2760
Жыл бұрын
I work with a guy in his mid 40s, he is a long time CoD fan, and has just recently started playing some of the newer games. He just bought MW2 and he couldn’t understand the concept of a battle pass, I tried my best to explain it to him but he could not get past the fact he had to pay after buying the game.. to him it just didn’t make sense. I’m going to show him this video, because you’ve done a great job explaining it in detail.
@DonFamilia62
Жыл бұрын
Nailed every point. Another issue is the pressure to constantly increase revenue by government and/or international investors. That ball started rolling once DLC became the norm.
@LilSticcBoi
Жыл бұрын
This video articulated all my thoughts really well on the state of modern gaming as a whole. Developers don't care about fun anymore, they just care about... The rest of this comment is hidden, you can view it now by subscribing and becoming one of our valued community members! For a small fee of just $5.99 a month, you'll be able to read all comments at a discounted price of only $2.99 per comment!
@Spiney09
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I wanted to try to go the free route to see the rest of this comment, but someone on Reddit calculated that it’d take a century to unlock it.
@cattysplat
Жыл бұрын
I bought all the comments because I must buy all new things before they are gone FOMO4LYFE.
@ashishshenoy3778
Жыл бұрын
aw man i guess i'll have to pay $4.20 to unlock the next 10 comments but thats ok because its actually a 6900% extra value deal !!!!
@Jm-ki4su
Жыл бұрын
this is why i love Cult of the Lamb. A shining example of indie brilliance amidst a sea of monetized crap
@thepikminbrawler1746
Жыл бұрын
That games pretty mid as far as Devolver Digital games go
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