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@ToastedHeadcrab
Жыл бұрын
Already play it on my pc lol it’s fun too much grind tho
@288gto7
Жыл бұрын
Dont do it if you want to keep your sanity
@sundrynow766
Жыл бұрын
Do not advertise the game, the company with keep supporting Russian aggression against Ukraine. Advertising games of these companies = support of Russian terrorism!
@hansloyalitat9774
Жыл бұрын
Do not play it, the snail will consume your soul.
@burgerkingfries4941
Жыл бұрын
Crappy game, stop being a sellout.
@sentinel06
Жыл бұрын
I really wanted him to talk about Web of Shadows swinging.. The webs don't attach to buildings but the swinging feels so good and it does require skills.
@DaRealViso
Жыл бұрын
they do attach to buildings but they hover a few feet away so it looks a bit wonky
@CANELA-cnm
Жыл бұрын
nah
@thisbubblygoodness7611
Жыл бұрын
@@DaRealViso you're both correct, that happens sometimes too
@DaRealViso
Жыл бұрын
@@thisbubblygoodness7611 yea I'm pretty sure the only times the web attaches to the air is if the objects you can swing on are to low to the ground
@mar_speedman
Жыл бұрын
It doesn't attach to buildings, but it crucially *still* attaches, even if it's to the sky. It's still 100% physics based. Less realistic, but still fun and beautiful, capturing the Spider-Man experience pretty well
@UnversedEquinoks
Жыл бұрын
The speed issue has actually been explained by insomniac as a streaming issue, the PS4 couldn't handle loading so much detail when speeds got too high so they limited his maximum speed. In the remaster they did increase his speed but only slightly. With Spiderman 2 coming exclusively to PS5 the issue will likely be gone and the speed and momentum issues you stated will probably be gone.
@blurayden
Жыл бұрын
So that's why it felt different
@radrno7
Жыл бұрын
It won't, the PC mods already proven it. 2018 it had a speed of 1, their plan is to upgrade to 2, which has already shown to be not even close to older games' speed, which were somewhat closer from 3 to 4, and even then that won't change the fact the game doesn't have physics, so making it faster won't fix an issue that anyone can do now with the mods. Now the least they can do is raise the speed.
@JadedParanoia
Жыл бұрын
@@radrno7 so just play on PC and mod the game, n quit bitching
@Dell-ol6hb
Жыл бұрын
@@radrno7 I don’t think it needs to be 3-4 times faster that’s a little absurd
@itwasntme6833
Жыл бұрын
@@radrno7 For most mods it felt like you were flying across the city. The moment Peter let’s go of the webs he’s halfway across another building. That’s not all the mods just some.
@Knator100
Жыл бұрын
I think it's a shame Web of Shadows wasn't mentioned. It's web slinging system and more importantly Peter's movement on the walls and air is fantastic.
@blackwarrior1897
Жыл бұрын
Sliding on walls was the most fire shit I've ever seen in a Spider-Man game
@kunaldhiman8733
Жыл бұрын
I still remember I use to to that same sliding animation in real when I was kid. It's soooo good. There was a rotating puch animation too that was also coool
@RMCUU
Жыл бұрын
Insomniac has the best swinging rn
@Lua0x07
11 ай бұрын
@@RMCUU youre wrong
@RMCUU
11 ай бұрын
@@Lua0x07 then what does💀 it ain't wos definitely 😂 you literally just swing onto air insomniac has better fundamentals etc while swinging
@fibonacci-dilemma3675
Жыл бұрын
I like the idea that swinging could be exactly like skate 3 physics with actual damage. I enjoy the web swinging in the game but I would love to actually be able to have that tense feeling of cutting it as close as I can by falling and shooting my web at the last second for a crazy amount of speed only to dodge everything else coming at me. One thing I kinda get bothered by is being able to move him in mid air so easily.
@Kuso319
Жыл бұрын
I think they should add it as an option, or part of a new difficulty
@pepperman420
Жыл бұрын
Honestly fr, halfway through Spider-Man ps4 the swinging doesn't feel satisfying anymore and you start to notice that he moves like a fucking plane.
@mellowmelly9258
Жыл бұрын
im glazing just cause 3, but i love the wingsuit in that game for the same reason, especially combining it with the grapple
@Profeshinal
Жыл бұрын
Movement mods can make the swinging more realistic
@exonymat1471
Жыл бұрын
I think it's a shame you didn't mention Web Of Shadow's web swinging system, since I consider it to be just as good as SM2's system. The webs themselves I think are the best part, they feel so elasticky and visually look amazing, while the physics are refined while still feeling realistic
@AfroV
Жыл бұрын
The way you can slide up the building over the peak before you fall down to the next swing is reeeaally addicting..
@inkchariot6147
Жыл бұрын
@@AfroV The best thing is when you knee slide up a building and spiderman just backflips into a swan dive.
@Justin12611
Жыл бұрын
fr Web of Shadows always had an amazing web swinging and wall sliding movements that makes you want to practice how you maneuver quickly to buildings and enemies, god I miss wall combat and it's unique combat system aswell. I hope the sequel adds that or perhaps shows more of it's new unique moves
@thisbubblygoodness7611
Жыл бұрын
@@inkchariot6147 im so glad you guys mention the knee-sliding mechanic when you go up and down buildings. it genuinely feels like a pro-skater move and its amazing.
@GG_MYDAWG
Жыл бұрын
TASM 2 Crying in the Background for not even being mentioned at all 😂😂neither the video nor the. comment section
@rxf_
11 ай бұрын
came to this video right here just to say that they added a new realistic swinging slider into spiderman 2:) it causes peter to hit obstacles more frequent, swing in the direction of the buildings that peter’s web latch onto as well as having him fall to the ground if he gets too low!
@Day1killa
10 ай бұрын
I have it on 0 swinging assistance
@Miltypooh2001
Жыл бұрын
I think having the freedom to swing any way you want is a great feature as it allows you to do cool moves on your own instead of being able to swing and do some generic move intended by the game but I hope they improve it in the next game
@thesilver7238
Жыл бұрын
That's why real-time physics based swinging is so much better. It presents some challenge and reward by releasing the swing too late, too early or spot on.
@Blueslyfox
Жыл бұрын
Did you not play miles morales and see how free form the web swinging and animations were?
@Blueslyfox
Жыл бұрын
Just go look at the web swinging in that game and you’ll see they already improved it a ton but how fluid his body moved
@fernandowong371
Жыл бұрын
@@Blueslyfox But it's still a gimmick that gets old quickly. Like how many times can you watch Miles open his phone while falling before you get bored? Physics-based swinging is superior, as literally every swing is unique since it depends on your location in space relative to the building, the forces acting on you, e.g. gravity, momentum, etc.
@DatPRGuy2017
Жыл бұрын
@@fernandowong371 Yup, outside the tricks the game still has the core issue the previous game had. It barely feels like I'm in the shoes of Spider-Man and rather the game is partly being Spider-Man whilst I'm just there for the ride
@dgriffin3113
11 ай бұрын
The one thing I think makes the whole, "just hold forward and R2 and spiderman will do it for you" in Spider-Man PS4 because Peter isn't just going to let himself smack into a wall, he's been Spider-Man for 8 years, he's skilled, which makes it seem more immersive and flow better than if he just slammed into a wall like an idiot. But I get that people want to have a challenge.
@MrStanFungi
Жыл бұрын
Something I like about spider-man 2 is that you don't have to face plant into the wall when your swinging. If you react fast enough, you can wall run up it like in spider-man ps4, except you actually meant to do it
@SSJPENGUIN
Жыл бұрын
Truth! Really makes it feel like the split decisions are significant + impactful
@ultimatecontagion
Жыл бұрын
In Spider-Man 3 and Web of Shadows, you do faceplant into walls if you swing too fast. They need to have that in the sequel. It shows as a consequence for you being reckless. Same thing with fall damage.
@MrStanFungi
Жыл бұрын
@@ultimatecontagion yes. But it would be cool if you could easily avoid it when you're skilled
@TheTim
11 ай бұрын
Well, you got what you wanted. You can now incrementally turn down the Swinging assist from 10 to 0 in Spiderman 2.
@vanadios4480
10 ай бұрын
Nice
@Tahasalman209
10 ай бұрын
Insconmiac delivered
@theProClaimer
10 ай бұрын
Copium
@thedarkroom6416
10 ай бұрын
@@theProClaimer?what
@juanme555
10 ай бұрын
this much cope is dangerous for your heart, Tim
@Eralen00
Жыл бұрын
The amount of control they give you in SM2 is incredible and it feels awesome to play. You can even control the speed of your mid-air flips. If you hold the jump/air trick button (X) instead of just tapping it, you do a slow version of whatever air trick is next in line, and you control how long it lasts by how long you hold the button. Not really a crucial gameplay mechanic but i just love the amount of freedom they give the player. I don't really care about doing the flip tricks but it has a gameplay element as well, it builds your spidey-sense meter, which slows down time (You can also build it up by doing "clean swings" where you don't hit any buildings)
@Joao-ur7ey
Жыл бұрын
The swinging on Fortnite during the Spider-Man event was surprisingly one of the most satisfying swingings I ever played. You also had a lot of control over the web and could mess up. My favorite thing was being able to do loops with the webs on certain buildings like bridges. I felt like in one of the swinging scenes of Spider-Man 1 when Peter is going after Green Globlin to save Mary Jane. Spider-Man 2018 was great animation wise, but there were definitely something about its swinging physics that wasn't that much satisfying. Specially when jumping from the highest building and swinging on the last possible moment. It didn't felt as fast as it was supposed to.
@Koopkiris
Жыл бұрын
Just so you know, if you miss that swinging, there's actually a few creative maps that have the "Grapple Glove" which is basically the same thing. I can find one of the maps if you're interested
@themikeyexperience
Жыл бұрын
I love the structure of your videos. Good visuals, you speak well. I find myself listening through the whole thing. Your efforts are not wasted. Very entertaining and I wish game developers took your suggestions.
@themadtitan7603
Жыл бұрын
100% agreed. His editing is perfect for these showcase and/or analysis a concept videos, it inspires me everytime.
@StuartLugsden
Жыл бұрын
He should teach a class.
@DarkSpaceStudios
Жыл бұрын
Thank you for the kind words! It is nice to see someone enjoys it :D
@themadtitan7603
Жыл бұрын
@@StuartLugsden I'd love to watch that masterclass.
@themadtitan7603
Жыл бұрын
@@DarkSpaceStudios What editing software do you use? I'm genuinely curious.
@mrbirgaming2384
10 ай бұрын
now you have those options
@ianfrankegordon4182
10 ай бұрын
??? No
@dante_0962
10 ай бұрын
@@ianfrankegordon4182yes
@_veloxity91
7 ай бұрын
Ehhh... I hope in SM3 they do the actual "Select your swinging mode" thing, since everyone complained that it wasn't worked on because they didn't know about the assist slider. They should give it to you as an option on the new game menu instead of going into accessibility, and you still should have things like loop-de-loop and corner tether as basic movement abilities, not unlockable skills.
@6ynical
Жыл бұрын
This video is the Spider-Man version of Sonic Fans talking about Sonics slope physics
@Reen40020
Жыл бұрын
I was thinking the exact same thing while watching this video.
@6ynical
Жыл бұрын
@@Reen40020 a man of culture i see
@eojoe5308
Жыл бұрын
YES! The advanced swinging is something i’ve always wanted. I always wished i could be punished for bad swinging, because it makes the good, skillful swinging much more rewarding!
@god_number4
Жыл бұрын
ah yes id love to face plant into a wall at mach 2 instead of just keeping my movement
@indedgames4359
Жыл бұрын
Ther testet that at insomniac found it wasnt fun and replaced it with a fun systhem instead
@dantevalentin8849
Жыл бұрын
Spiderman 2 ps2
@hsemicolonc
Жыл бұрын
@@indedgames4359Says a lot more about the play testers than the mechanics themselves. I loved swinging through the city in Ultimate Spider-Man & I was 9 years old. That game had full pendulum physics & fall damage.
@reddodeado301
11 ай бұрын
@@god_number4 Soooo don't turn the (hypothetical) option on You can keep the swinging you like, others can keep the swinging they like, and everyone is happy
@lamedrawings
Жыл бұрын
I wish you at least mentioned the swinging mechanic of Tasm 2. They added one feature that i wished every spiderman game had. Left and right trigger their respective web shooters. I think in the discussion of freedom to swing this is an important aspect as you actually have control over which side you want to move and are punished for accidentally using the wrong trigger in certain areas like around the edges of cities or around central park where you want to fire your webs on one specific side. This also helps reduce the whole "hold one button to move straight forward automatically" as your webs will swing to one direction based on the the trigger. It is such a shame that you just disregarded those games like that.
@DatPRGuy2017
Жыл бұрын
That idea was cool but the main problem with TASM 2's swinging is that the animations were very repetitive plus the momentum felt off compared to past gamws
@lamedrawings
Жыл бұрын
@@DatPRGuy2017 thats why i only mentioned the triggers and nothing else. The web zip mechanic that goes into first person is also nice but i think I prefer Insomniac's web zip.
@GG_MYDAWG
Жыл бұрын
@@lamedrawings I like the Concept tho of Web Rush
@medafan53
Жыл бұрын
That's definately something I'd want in an advanced swinging mode, I may be swayed by nostalgia, as I joined the spidey fandom around 2013-ish (my first marvel comic books, if memory serves, was the last few issues of Superior Spider Man, where the real Superior Spidey, Peter, returned) but I do have fond memories of the TASM 2 game, it does a lot wrong, but there are a few things it did well, and the swinging controls were one of them.
@lamedrawings
Жыл бұрын
@@medafan53 Imagine how a swinging control like that effects boss battles like in Vulture & Electro fight where you're swinging around most of the time
@navox4658
11 ай бұрын
Looks like the developer understands the problem and tried to fix it with an adjustable swinging assist in Marvel Spiderman 2. By turning off the swinging assist, there is a possibility of losing momentum when you hit something. It's a neat feature. Even tho if it's not gonna be the same as OG Spiderman 2 level, at least it's there
@hazelcrisp
11 ай бұрын
Spider-man 2 (PS5) does have the ability to adjust swing assistance. It does feel more momentum based but I don't think it's enough. I don't think adding a web suit builds on the swinging. They didn't fix the low swinging issue. And if you set the assistance to 0 with fall damage and try to swing low, there isn't much saving you from the ground since there isn't the ability to run on the ground or if the arc is too low you'll hit the ground since you can't control the web length or climb the lines.
@aformerchannelwhomoved
Жыл бұрын
Web of Shadows might be a good thing to look at as a frame of reference for, what I feel is, the best Spider-Man physics a game has ever received. While I think the swinging in Insomniac’s Spider-Man is serviceable and holds enough weight, it definitely feels pretty automated at certain points that you’ve mentioned. Great video!
@wolfofwarframe3807
Жыл бұрын
Its still surprising that people dont mention Web of Shadows when it comes to swinging.
@Cybernyde
Жыл бұрын
This. So much this. IMO, WoS had the best aspects of SM2 and SM 2018 combined: satisfying physics based swinging that's easy to learn yet hard to master.
@ahadullahalimi9332
Жыл бұрын
For me, the best Spider-Man game to fully master web swinging is Spider-Man 3. Spider-Man 3 was a super good game because it had such a good variety of swinging, Like dual swinging, running on poles, And also, the way they made air-tricks so useful to the game is mind blowing, Most people hate it but they don’t fully understand how the game wanted you to swing. Keep in mind that web of shadow is 95% taken from Spider-Man 3. Also: the goddam speed in that game was so good. Like you could get so far by swinging but it didn’t feel weird.
@Alex-yu5cu
Жыл бұрын
The physic is not that good since buildings are not taken into account when swinging..
@ultimatecontagion
Жыл бұрын
@@ahadullahalimi9332 I hate it how everyone be sleeping on both USM and SM3. The web swinging from SM2 all the way to WoS is the same system.
@rangelsedits
11 ай бұрын
Having played Spider-Man 2 and not being good at swinging beforehand, i can ASSURE u the swinging is better in this one and i DEFINITELY lose momentum when i hit a wall or hit the ground now. Its realistic and makes my failure hurt💀
@rangelsedits
11 ай бұрын
Also they even added a fall damage option
@jstandhh
11 ай бұрын
Wait until u die due to loop swing 😂
@StuartLugsden
Жыл бұрын
As much as I love 2018 Spiderman I have to agree with everything you said. Its great, its what I want, but Spiderman 2 still dose it better in some areas. If they combined both and had options like turning off the wall colliding animation then it would be absolutely perfect.
@SimonD.PDXBass
Жыл бұрын
I'm glad I'm not the only one who appreciated having to learn how to swing well in Spiderman 2. Another thing I like about the Spiderman 2 swinging is that the building blocks themselves are so simple, you can shoot a web, hang on to it, jump from it, wall run etc. and the cool stuff you can do is a result of the "systems" and physics put in place by the game, making it feel like I discovered some cool move even if it was 100% intended by the devs. The newer game doesn't have that kind of discovery, I think, but it does have an insane amount of handcrafted animations and motions that look sweet.
@youngspecial64
Жыл бұрын
Insomniac will definitely make you disciver thos time when it comes to their physics.
@thatrat5035
10 ай бұрын
Bro got his wish 🙏🙏
@emilys64
Жыл бұрын
Thank you for at least mentioning Ultimate Spider-Man but I still stand by it being the most underrated spider-man game. The combination of the swinging and the web zipping made you feel so agile just like you should as a superhero that relies so much on his movement
@dannyboy4682
Жыл бұрын
Web zipping was so satisfying in that game! I also loved the style. Combat was lacking but the story made it worth it
@connortremblay1259
Жыл бұрын
How did you not mention the splat animation from spiderman 2? If you're ripping along at max speed (as far as I know it's impossible to get the animation to play without a few swing speed upgrades) and you slam into a wall spiderman halts all momentum and pancakes across the wall, arms and legs splayed out. It's a hilarious way to punish players for getting extra careless, because you have to hit a wall nearly dead on ad well.
@jasonmsanchez
Жыл бұрын
In Spider-Man Miles Morales, they also had that dollar animation. Also while I do understand the points the video made, I do think of PS4 Spider-Man's web swinging and why he wall runs if you swing towards a wall in a narrative way. In Spider-Man 2, he's only got 2 years of swinging under his belt and therefore can't fully maneuver swinging into walls. PS4 Spider-Man, has over 8 years to get it down so of course his parkour skills are a bit higher. However, I do agree that the swinging right over the street is a little wonky. Plus the point about Miles and how he's more interested in looking cool than getting there fast, he's a brand new Spider-Man so of course he's going to look and feel slower. However if you notice the swing animation and speed from the beginning of the game to the end, you'll notice a pretty decent difference.
@DatAsianGuy
Жыл бұрын
@@jasonmsanchez No, Spider-Man should be punished for carelessly swinging, it doesn't have to be like ps2 where you just plant your face in the building, but encourage smart swinging. If you swing straight into a building, then you should be punished with losing your momentum. Not face planting, but the fast impact means that spider-man has to stop for a moment before he starts wallrunning up, and he shouldn't be at full wallrunning speed, when he does. it should build up. but the player should be able to circumvent these momentum killer animations/moves by smart swinging. if the player wants to wallrun, but they don't want to have their momentum ruined, they could "tactically" attach their web in such a way, that they are not forced to crash into building. instead they swing up next to the building so that their movement is close to parallel to the building's walls, when they player then lets go, all the momentum they have can be easily tranferred to a wallrun without losing speed.
@crashjetto
Жыл бұрын
@@DatAsianGuyy'all be so picky
@DatAsianGuy
Жыл бұрын
@@crashjetto wanting an improved system for the sequel is now being picky?
@tofugtag
Жыл бұрын
@@DatAsianGuyNo he is saying “Y’all be picky.” Because you guys want all of the mechanics just for web-swinging which will prob to very time consuming and almost impossible to do. But at the end of the day it’s still just a video game and it does not have to be completely realistic.
@XGames-94
Жыл бұрын
Spiderman 2 also had an easy mode. They could've implemented something similar to the 2018 release. I was a bit disappointed that you could not even do loops as spiderman would release the web automatically. I agree with you on everything here.
@carlosh0612
11 ай бұрын
now it's everything good in new spider man 2
@davidwas77
10 ай бұрын
Bro rly foreshadowed Spiderman 2 swing physics
@math3us420
11 ай бұрын
and this is why you voice your criticisms folks
@mackcool1000
10 ай бұрын
Spider man 2 definitely improved in this aspect
@pro_rookie_gamedev
Жыл бұрын
Another amazing video! Awesome. Insomniac developers mentioned in a GDC talk on YT, that they initially went all physics based for the first iteration of their web swinging but it didn't feel good and was difficult. So they added some invisible helpers to really make you "feel like Spider-man". I do hope that they allow you to touch the ground while swinging in Spider-man 2. Btw, I can link to the talk if anyone wants to see that.
@damndude9826
Жыл бұрын
Watching this after the Spider-Man 2 gameplay reveal, sadly it seems like Insomniac played it safe and didn't iterate on the web swinging. Still need proper free roaming gameplay to come to a conclusion, but it seems like we're stuck with artificial and automated swinging.
@fashinero
Жыл бұрын
i think they just overhauled the web sound effects, it seemed the exact same "holding your hand" type swinging unfortunately
@TalhaMasood
Жыл бұрын
Tbh that decreases a lot of the excitement I had for that game. Cuz I've already sunk hours in that swinging system and am quite bored by it, I don't need to spend money to get the same swinging system because I can play that right now.
@thejournalist8091
Жыл бұрын
I was really looking forward to seeing an improved version of the web swinging in Spiderman 2, but from the gameplay trailers, it still has the same problems as the first two games, which was extremely disappointing to me. Oh well. Maybe they’ll improve it in Spiderman 3
@youngspecial64
Жыл бұрын
They are people who like to please everybody... they can still add it as an option, becuase they are people who love to give players veriety on what they can do when it comes to accessibility. They have said that we only got a taste on what we saw. So we shall see... Just have faith.
@themanofthehour1418
Жыл бұрын
This is what happens when all feedback gets immediately shut down sadly was hoping for a swinging overhaul the swinging is way way way on rails for a character that thrives off the thrill of freedom and freeflow
@CANELA-cnm
Жыл бұрын
My fear is that since it's coming too fast, Spider-Man two will basically have the same exact swinging physics as the first game. Which is fun, but they can and should do better.
@insertnamehere658
Жыл бұрын
Miles was released not too far from the 1st game, yet it still made pretty noticable improvements to the swinging. At least the looking cool part.
@CANELA-cnm
Жыл бұрын
@@insertnamehere658 Yeah, but looking cool is all about animations. I hope they improve on the physics and mechanics.
@Cybernyde
Жыл бұрын
@@CANELA-cnm I have the same concern, I'm not really holding my breath on that aspect of the game unfortunately, I feel like it'll just be flashier animations with no actual improvement to the physics :/
@CANELA-cnm
Жыл бұрын
@@Cybernyde yep. I hope we're very wrong!
@qh527
Жыл бұрын
It'll be 5 years since the first one by the time Spider-Man 2 comes out...
@TheSpeedBroo
11 ай бұрын
Heres the thing in spiderman 2 you can turn off swing assist so its not really babying you
@AnimeisGarbage
Жыл бұрын
Can we talk about why fall damage is the boogeyman? My palms still sweat when I'm swinging atop the highest buildings in Spider-Man PS2 but in the PS4 game I can be in any difficult situation barreling towards the ground and feel nothing because it's 0 risk. 100% the new Insomniac game needs lethal fall damage but 100% they won't implement that.
@christopherjohnsonthe2ndch644
Жыл бұрын
Personally, I wouldn’t think Spider-Man could die while falling. He’s superhuman after all.
@AnimeisGarbage
Жыл бұрын
@@christopherjohnsonthe2ndch644 Maybe not lethal fall damage then but like 90%-95%, then just tweak the game so it’s harder to leave combat scenarios with full health and there you go, looming threat of death and once again thrilling movement.
@pepe_s1lvia
Жыл бұрын
If they implement that, people will go fucking nuts and complain because the game would be "too hard".
@siraj_jr_
Жыл бұрын
@@pepe_s1lvia I played dark souls 1, 3, in progress of 2, finished Sekiro twice, beat Bloodborne countless times. If they do that I would not have any 'its too hard' gripes
@brandonwashington604
Жыл бұрын
This isn’t elden ring
@YaBoiDoi
Жыл бұрын
idk whhy people are complaining about the autocorrect when hitting walls. If anything I enjoyed that aspect because it meant I could chill and enjoy swinging instead of having to worry about calculating wether my swinging was precise enough to not hit the buildings.
@TheBlueSwoosh
Жыл бұрын
ikr like who cares about how spiderman will hit a wall beacuse you didnt swing correctly
@LeRohlik
10 ай бұрын
Looks like insomniac watches your video
@PWhawk
8 ай бұрын
spider-man 2 answered your prayers
@jacoblangobard4640
Жыл бұрын
*Exaggurated swagger of a black teen intesifies*
@somedudenameddes0121
Жыл бұрын
15:22 especially
@sarkasmt2
Жыл бұрын
Agree to 100%! This is why I like Spider-Man 2 on PS2, you were rewarded for good gameplay but also punished for swinging poorly and lost your speed. This will NEVER happen in Insomniacs SM games though :(
@theguyinthere
Жыл бұрын
i know attention to detail in miles morales is top notch. i remember doing trick falling all the way to the ground and boucing off the concrete leaving an imprint of the bounce in the snow. THAT WAS DOPE AS FUQ.
@jamesvancam
Жыл бұрын
YESSIR!
@user-nn1fx1nc7e
Жыл бұрын
It's crazy to think games are getting so advanced that they can leave imprints in the snow for every action you can possibly do along with the full accurate reflections, higher pedestrian count, and the fluidity in general it's such a cool concept to me that we went from 2 sticks and a bouncing ball to what we have now.
@DripTastic2010
Жыл бұрын
Legends say Spiderman's webs were stuck to Uncle Ben in the initial Games
@Crazytrain2015
Жыл бұрын
Now this is interesting
@ToastedHeadcrab
Жыл бұрын
Dude your content is amazing there some of the best videos I’ve ever watched on youtube didn’t expect to see you here lol 😂
@Crazytrain2015
Жыл бұрын
@@ToastedHeadcrab Eyyy nice to see a fan here
@MrWhatdafuBOOM
Жыл бұрын
Don't forget faster wallcrawling, it kinda kills then momentum of traversal the way it is currently.
@nickblog3407
Жыл бұрын
This was an interesting video, well done too. For my own thoughts on swinging I think Insomniac did really well with the mechanics. Personally I like that it holds my hand to a degree with the swinging. I have a disability and only the use of my left hand. (I'm playing it on PC by the way). I can set all the controls to the left side of the keyboard and just go full bore through the city at amazing speed. There are points where the game gives me a hand, but I don't really notice it. Partly because Insomniac worked really hard to hide that behind the scenes. But more to the point that helping hand made me feel like Spider-Man to such a degree that it didn't matter. (Though I agree with what you said about Central Park). To add onto what you suggested I think that perhaps there could be, three levels of swinging. Perhaps you could select one from the accessibility menu. The first would be what we got in Insomniac's SM1 and presumably Miles Morales. The second could be a bit more intensive where you get a greater level of freedom to pull of the tricks and swinging mechanics with less handholding and helps you get used to the tougher mechanics unaided. The third, could be advanced and incorporate the parkour and movement animations that Insomniac got right, but gives the player more total control over swinging, running, diving etc.
@AdamThundercock
11 ай бұрын
Funny how KZitem recommended this to me after the release of spider man 2 which fixed these issues
@kominenisrikant7269
11 ай бұрын
spider man 2 fixes this as u can now make swing assist 0 which makes stuff a lot more realistic
@bpcgos
Жыл бұрын
You definitely spot on the problem with insomniac spider man swinging, especially on web control and momentum also the willingness of let player fail and stumble upon swinging. At first I thought the lack of dedicated wall attach button,you know so that I could stop swinging whenever I wanted to, is the problem, but after seeing your explanation its all about web control and momentum and insomniac definitely need to see this video.
@ahmedghanmi
Жыл бұрын
Honestly in Spider Man 2 they should make it where the speed increases by a percentage every time you do a perfect swing. And it shouldn't have a limit. This will challenge players to try and get the fastest speed.
@luciano_trivelli
Жыл бұрын
This video perfectly captures the small issues with the swinging system, amazing job as always
@This-is-a-commentt
9 ай бұрын
So do we just forget the amazing Spider-Man 2 game existed? I like the swinging there
@Quad373
Жыл бұрын
Spider-Man Ps4s swinging is sorta like if in GTA never let you crash your car. Driving while having the game auto correct for you would be more fluid and less stressful but people want the control and risk.
@justgrayyy105
Жыл бұрын
Insomniac did a really good job with Spider-Man (2018) and Miles Morales and were improved for the PS5 versions for sure, but some ragdoll physics other than when Spider-Man dies would be nice
@markkocsicska2590
11 ай бұрын
I still think the best "web swinging" comes from the 2013 Attack on Titan Unity "tribute game" where you have to aim your hooks and you can play with momentum. Yes, it is difficult. Yes, it has a leaning curve. But it is rewarding.
@Isaac_sk8s
6 ай бұрын
He predicted spider man 2 swing assist
@youngspecial64
3 ай бұрын
Nah... people asked, and they listened. Though, there's still more WORK to be done upon it! They truly do listen to us fans.
@flying3833
11 ай бұрын
It happened! Spider-Man 2 for PS5 has this implemented! Although it’s a slider setting so you can adjust how much swinging assist you want. It is very cool.
@li9452
11 ай бұрын
some f ur ideas r imported in spiderman 2 (not sure i watched this vid long time ago)
@killakame-3434
Жыл бұрын
Everything you see in Marvel Spider-Man is thanks to the Web Of Shadows PC and Spider-Man 2 PS2
@krokodil5131
Жыл бұрын
This may sound weird but my favorite swinging mechanic is the one in Fortnite. There you have complete control of your swing, you can actually aim where you want to attach the webs. I really hope this kind of swinging mechanic to be explored more in spider man games.
@iLLiCiT_XL
Жыл бұрын
I’d love it if Spider-Man could swing all the way around an object and web down to a surface below. Like if you fly over a building, and there’s nothing above you but sky, he’ll web the roof of the building below him which would allow him to arch downward on that swing.
@mustardsauce5201
Жыл бұрын
i think the ability to stay held onto a web should totally be added in. i wanna do a full loop dude!
@Thunderbolt479
Жыл бұрын
I hope Insomniac's Spider-Man 2 actually improves on its predecessors' flaws, and makes it closer to the OG Spider-Man 2.
@davidbjacobs3598
Жыл бұрын
Sudden Idea: Give him the "advanced" swinging, with all the safeties off... until he puts on the symbiote. So long as post-game allows you to freely alternate, it could be a cool way to showcase the sheer power and invincibility of the symbiote, while also subtly suggesting that the suit is in control.
@CoFFee-uw5sv
Жыл бұрын
I like this idea
@YachtpeeR-sk5du
Жыл бұрын
Interesting
@R3l1x31
Жыл бұрын
Its actually possible to hang on a web without letting go in ps4 you just have to slow down and try not hit ther building or anything because if you hit the building you'll just stick on the building dont hit the building and slow down
@InternetMouse
Жыл бұрын
I honestly dont find anything wrong with the swinging in this game. I think it overall feels the best. But that doesn't mean, it cannot be improved. I do understand your take man. Love this video
@davelewinsky9852
Жыл бұрын
I love when people mention features from prototypes to be added in games as if it was a drag and drop of content. AI models are incredibly hard to make. Like really hard. I’m a data scientist and we need around thousands of training data before we are able to fully test and build our models. How much data do you think nvidia needed to have to train their model? Also, spiderman is a fully blown video game with various textures/materials as well as other systems. If you want a game to come out in a 5-7 year period, don’t expect “AI” animations in your AAA games lol
@Vintagesonic1
Жыл бұрын
I understand that this is different from your typical GTA content, but I'd really like to see you make more videos like this, whether it be Spider-Man or something else. Also, I really appreciate you making this video as not enough people criticize Spider-Man PS4's web swinging. But the unfortunate fact of the matter is that as these Spider-Man games are AAA, it also means they have to be accessible to even the worst player. Casual gamers dislike challenge and that means unless Insomniac incorporates a separate mode for challenging web swinging and easy web swinging like Spider-Man 2, then I doubt Spider-Man 2 PS5 is going to be more challenging.
@meme_bert
11 ай бұрын
10 months later, and wow, theyve definitley improved it, especially if youve seen the leaks
@levilurgy
Жыл бұрын
You could make the same video for 3D sonic games and momentum. This is the time where realism is no longer tied to graphics and world size/scope only... PHYSICS is now probably thee most important aspect of video games, but its kind of neglected. In Sonic games, In Skateboarding Games, In GTA like games, and in the new Spider-Man. Physics is so important. But I feel like we are still in the 7th gen era when it comes to physics (with GTA5 its worst cos they went backwards.)
@_SYDGAMING_
Жыл бұрын
What I think should be a swinging system is to have R2 as right swing with right arm and L2 with the other arm giving that feeling of web swinging
@Pokeblueblur
Жыл бұрын
Tasm games did it but it feels unnecessary
@Th_Uslss_Indvdl
Жыл бұрын
I remember someone telling me once, “A dude can climb walls using only his bare hands and you’re concerned about the physics of his swinging?” Glad to know I’m not the only one. 😂
@lordraiden7397
Жыл бұрын
Because they can't argue half the damn time. It's just deflection
@Zowayix93
Жыл бұрын
I always really hated that logic. Yes, asshole, I do expect the world with dragons flying about and people shooting fire from their fingers to at least follow its own established rules; otherwise, it's just not a great piece of media.
@Derk6799
Жыл бұрын
Realistically, Spiderman wouldn't let himself ding off of a building. Realistically he would immediately go for the climb option, or just smash right through the glass
@jhonnyaccarino
Жыл бұрын
Finally a video that summerizes all my opinions about Spider-Man PS4 in relation to PS2 covering everything I have ever thought. Just one thing you did not mention Is that at the beginning of a new game in Spider-Man 2 for PS2 you could choose between 2 kinds of swinging mechanics, an "arcade" one, simpler, and a physics based one. I hope Marvel's Spider-Man 2 will feature a "phisics mod" for swinging.
@Evanz111
Жыл бұрын
Holy heck what is this production value? In the first 15 seconds I’ve already seen more effort than any KZitem video I’ve seen today, and I just watched a Mark Rober video.
@littlesjunior
Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much I’ve been saying Spider-Man 2 was still elite swing and to this day or until they do something like this to perfect it in the future. People where biased with Spider-Man ps4 swinging mechanics and I argued and argued and argued. Nobody was getting it. The way you articulated this was what I’ve been trying to explain. I thought I was crazy. I hate the fact the Spider-Man has unlimited agility and ways to get around and with style but it’s held back disrespectfully. Spider man 2 and I’ll say, even Spider-Man web of shadows and ultimate Spider-Man had something going with the physics that are true to Spider-Man’s nature. Especially climbing on the web while swinging I loved that so much. That’s why I love his poses while he’s swinging on his web and threw the air and multiple ways of agility and speed. But people that I spoke too were very little minded and wasn’t looking at the big picture about Spider-Mans web swinging in PlayStation 5. Like even from the movies adaptations of Spider-Man’s winging I wished where implemented in games today. Spider-Man ps5 (4) even miles morales could’ve just used what they have already but just add it with Spider-Man 2’s mechanics. But for some reason no. I’m glad there’s people like you that recognize this. This is not a knock to Spider-Man ps5 but I feel like it still could’ve been better. Especially with the technology today. Like cmon Spider-Man 2 did it on ps2 like for real. You mean to tell me a highly advanced console and the technology we have today can’t even compete with something that was made a decade ago? Cmon now stop playing with my boi Spidey and get his swinging correct.
@ch4z_bucks
Жыл бұрын
It's not that they couldn't have collisions, they obviously can. The game recognises that there will be a collision so does something to prevent it whilst still looking natural. I do prefer it like that to be honest. The question which the devs obviously asked themselves during development is should they. Not every aspect of a game needs to be punishing, swinging in a Spider-Man game should involve some hand holding so that players can look good doing it and get that satisfaction, remember even the original reasoning behind a physics based system was to not be realistic, but to make players feel like Spider-Man, spider-man doesn't crash into buildings, he does break his swing and run up them. The real punishment should and does come in the form of the combat. Insomniacs swing system is a great balance between giving players control, but also having preset animations and hand holding to keep the swinging looking good and maintain momentum. I think a genuine improvement to be made will be to in regards to swinging low and redirecting to go through pipes and gaps. Low swinging doesn't look good sometimes when the game forces it, neither does this strange float redirection when you go to webzip through a small gap, so there's no loss in preventing that from happening. But I don't think building collisions should be a thing, perhaps running or even sliding along the ground when you launch a web when low to the ground whilst swinging would be a cool aesthetic change.
@TyRendition
Жыл бұрын
It be best if they just did like spiderman 2 and give actual options between casual and skilled swinging.
@Jakeyisdead
Жыл бұрын
Aaaand Web of Shadows goes unmentioned again
@CapitanDavid
Жыл бұрын
I Subscribed on your channel just yesterday. And for today I watched a lot of your videos and liked it. I am not even English speaker, and not used to watch content on foreign language. But your videos are unique and interesting, so I truly watch it with curiousity. So much right things you saying, and talks about not ordinary themes. Thanks for your work! Nice job you did 👍🏻
@DarkSpaceStudios
Жыл бұрын
Thank you! I would like to get my videos translated but i'm not really sure how to do it honestly.
@CapitanDavid
Жыл бұрын
@@DarkSpaceStudios It depends on which one you prefer. I saw translated Nostalgia Critic content, this is just Russian channel, that make dub on every critic video. And second way, is subtitles on your videos
@ROBOHOLIC1
Жыл бұрын
This reminds me of the "Normal" vs "Novice" controls topic on Ace Combat. One let's you fully control the aircraft, i.e. manually do rolls and loops with complete freedom. The other feels like driving a car that can go up and down.
@milowolfface9392
Жыл бұрын
Web of Shadows is hands down the best Spider-Man swinging ever. If you disagree, you didn't play the game. That simple. The sheer Variety of that game allows you to do so much. Wall run up and down buildings, slide across them, loop around poles, climb webs, swing so low you run on the street, web zips, double web launch, and way more. I love Spidy PS4, I do. But it is far from the best web swinging. Web of Shadows has that title and nothing has even come close to challenging it. White Light, a yt channel has an amazing detailed video on the 2 games. And it is beyond laughable how far and above Web Of Shadows is over Spidy PS4. And it's not that we hate the game, but we are so close to the perfect Spider-Man game but people are holding it back by not acknowledging the peak of the series. The actual peak.
@immortalkombat9289
Жыл бұрын
Congrats on 159k subs
@DarkSpaceStudios
Жыл бұрын
Thank you! Unreal!
@mossystone584
Жыл бұрын
you can contol nd steer while swinging, shifting weight does so. you can also steer a bowling ball with rotation
@videohousejsq
Жыл бұрын
I appreciate your take on this! Your absolutely right about having a more advanced swing system for people who want to feel the mistakes, or feel more control.
@axlgiovano4726
11 ай бұрын
oo boy do i got news for ya
@demaunix2723
Жыл бұрын
I hope they include Spiderman climbing his web and the mechanic of shooting two webs towards buildings to stay suspended in mid air in Marvel Spiderman 2
@UltimateSpiderMan
Жыл бұрын
I just want to say beenox are not that bad yes tasm and tasm2 had flaws like the cloud swinging from the first game, But to be fair these games were underdeveloped because of activision's greed, but they still managed to pull off good stuff like spider man shattered dimensions which is a fucking masterpiece and edge of time that was also underdeveloped but still had and amazing story not to mention that they are more familiar with linear level design like in shattered dimensions and edge of time so it makes sense for them to not have much experience with open world games and realistic swinging, also one great thing that I have to give them credit for: they once asked fans what character they wanted to see in tasm2 and everyone chose carnage so they added him into the game for fan service, Yes tasm and tasm 2 ARE bad games but I think you were a little rude when talking about the devs of beenox, Also shouldn't spider man web of shadows be in this video?
@jaytoochill_
Жыл бұрын
Don’t know about anyone else but I love the swinging in Miles Morales. All the animations and just how it feels is so nice to me. Speed feels perfect in it. I’m just now hearing about people wanting to go Sonic 06 speeds lol. Those speed mods look crazy
@kylebookout1789
Жыл бұрын
A 20 minute video on the physics of swinging in spider man video games? I love KZitem.
@Robohtgaming
Жыл бұрын
I think you hit the nail on the head with Spiderman 2018. It has the best swinging of any spiderman game so far yet there is still room to improve. The new swinging should require a bit more skill to master. Would love to see some fall damage as well from tall heights to add a bit more risk.
@burner3185
Жыл бұрын
It’s flying with swinging animations. Only Spider-Man 2 and USM have swinging.
@itwasntme6833
Жыл бұрын
@@burner3185 ???
@zaibo
Жыл бұрын
Also, in web of shadows you’re able to hang onto and swing around the lamp posts
@omarmansour6766
Жыл бұрын
Looks like those problems won’t be fixed with the new Spider-Man game man….It’s disappointing.
@Wertyber
Жыл бұрын
they're not really problems, they're just features that can be improved. also we only saw 10 minutes of the gameplay, they can still improve the game, it isn't disappointing at all
@generalshock4359
Жыл бұрын
@@Wertyber for you
@Wertyber
Жыл бұрын
@@generalshock4359 for thousands of people actually
@generalshock4359
Жыл бұрын
@@Wertyber you do realize your talking about a game with zero new mechanics zero new movement mechanics and zero new abilities and absurdly slow and boring gameplay right?
@generalshock4359
Жыл бұрын
@@Wertyber they did attempt to fix all those problems in the miles game but still the first game is just boring in every department to where you could literally fall asleep watching pros play the game and take no damage because theres no style in the gameplay movement or fighting unlike most spiderman games because in this game if you see 1 person webswing you have seen everyone's webswinging an the same goes for the combat
@HatKidPeck
Жыл бұрын
SM2 and Web of Shadows are the absolute BEST of Web Swinging in games, with Miles Morales being leagues above the original Spider-Man on PS4
@alexsanimeart5706
Жыл бұрын
You can't really please everyone with the swinging in the games I guess unless you add the separate mode you mentioned. I feel like the newest spiderman games take a very balanced approach to it. I lost momentum and started to climb on buildings when I messed up, so I still got my momentum punished at certain parts. I can see how the punishment is less severe compared to the other games, but I mainly played for the combat in the newer games
@youngspecial64
Жыл бұрын
Well that's about to change in Spider-Man 2.
@jortsan.
11 ай бұрын
@@youngspecial64 hex yeah
@sageof6blacks736
Жыл бұрын
Spider-Man 2 to this day, still has the best swing system to date. Insomniac’s system is far too hand holding and gets very boring very quickly since there’s no need for skill. Hopefully marvels Spider-Man 2 changes that and takes the reign as having the best swing system
@Nix-Man
Жыл бұрын
The moment I saw Mile's glide suit in the trailer a few weeks back I was like, "does Insomniac even want us to enjoy their spider-games?"
@denj4s
Жыл бұрын
agreed, would be a big game changer and hey this idea could sell great if a company actually decides to do something innovative like this. Just saying
@praqueisso4892
Жыл бұрын
When spider man shoots webs to the sky, uncle ben catches it so peter can swing
@bluehero-96
Жыл бұрын
It's not a barrier that keeps Peter off the ground when swinging. He's secretly Cosmic Spider-man!
@Arimord
Жыл бұрын
Fun fact: In LEGO Marvel games you can climb up Spider-Man’s web and see it’s attached to a flying drone!
@w_4ca
Жыл бұрын
Spider-Man 2 is still my favorite Spider-Man game. Idk if I’ve replayed any game more than that one.
@Sorrus-B4lyfe
Жыл бұрын
Safe to say, Insomniac version = Kid friendly game incase the game flopped. Cause atleast kids will be playing it. Last Spiderman I played = 2005 Spiderman 2… that game has far superior swinging mechanics that this newer game. Even the falling stunt poses was great, seeing how many stunts you can pull off while free falling… this game, it’s like a Fornite dance you whip out.
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