Honestly, I have come full circle and am going back to looking for BGS 9.5's
@gullomic
7 ай бұрын
9s all day brotha and 8 is always my magic number for everything
@southFLrips
3 ай бұрын
The insight and brutally honest truth.. is sorely welcomed.. and the fact of all the work and time it takes to do the data and the math and the research to put out such informative videos is very great for the hobby thanks for all you do
@ryanfell8559
2 ай бұрын
This was a great video. I am a 45 year old, new collector, who was roped in by my boys who just started collecting as well. My oldest son, is fascinated by PSA10s, and I've had many discussions with him on this topic. I'm looking to build a PC, and as such, could care less about the graded or slab cards, with the caveat that they are more protected. As a guy just trying to build a collection of cards that I like (I'm not looking to be a high-rolling investor), I see slabbed cards as a barrier to me collecting the cards that I want without spending what feels like a manufactured premium. I think that barrier stands not only before me, but others as well. Especially young collectors, and those without deep, deep pockets. It feels like a hobby once accessible to the masses, regardless of socioeconomic status, appears to be out of reach for the masses. For the record, I do not have any slabs in my PC, but should I get my hands on cards that I wish to protect for my own collection, I think I would look to the grading company that I believe has the best looking slab. Once again, thanks for the great video.
@MarketMovers
Ай бұрын
Thanks for the feedback and for watching!
@bhfromnh3914
7 ай бұрын
I collect SGC 8 Jordan’s. The difference between an 8 and a 10 is literally almost microscopic. Buy the card, not the grade. For PC anyways.
@tipofthemittcollectablesan9248
7 ай бұрын
I have thought this forever. 12.00 psa 9. 1700 psa 10. Pure ridiculous. Thankfully I love. SGC. And love 8's and 9.5.
@KareemPies49
7 ай бұрын
It’s cool if you guys like less desirable cards and grading companies yourself. But ideally we wouldn’t be making videos to spread bad advice to others. Some people like to eat a lot of fast food or smoke cigarettes, but let’s not encourage others to do so.
@jleezy259
7 ай бұрын
With older cards I absolutely can see why the gap. Much harder to get 10’s on them
@hollywood21001
7 ай бұрын
Makes No sense to me! I have been saying this for the longest. Also, I don't get why you would pay $20 dollars to get a card graded who's value is in the $0 -$199 price range. They say the $20 is for insurance purposes for the return of the card. Now I can understand if your card grades out as a PSA 10 now the value of the card is on the high end of the spectrum ($100-$199). So what happens when your card grades out to a 8 or less now the value of the card is worth a few dollars. So now in a since you have paid $20 for a card worth a few dollars. So if the $20 is for insurance purposes PSA should be refunding you the difference in value but they don't. That is my biggest dilemma paying these high grading prices and getting told the cost is to cover insurance on you card on the return now the card does not graded out on the high end so you technically should have paid insurance on a lower valued card but you didn't and they get to keep the difference. They need to make it make since. Not a fan of the procedure. I advocate for a governing body to over see card grading to make sure the consumer is not being taken advantage of. Just my opinion.
@Huffy-gs4bq
7 ай бұрын
Dude, you are spot on on this topic. I completely agree with everything you're saying. It's getting out of hand.
@802Projects
7 ай бұрын
If you look at the yellow ring around that PSA Jordan you'll see that on the bottom the yellow goes outside the black edge lines. That drives me nuts. No way should it get a gold sticker. I think if SGC had thinner less bulky slabs like PSA they would be my go-to as they have a more neutral colored label. The PSA slab is perfect, just their red labels sometimes clash with certain cards. I play the PSA 9 game. They are priced cheaper and the pop reports are likely overstated from crack/resubmits. Not all 9s are equal. Obviously the perfect 9 is one you can't see any imperfections on. Keep those. There are some with a tipped corner or centering issues on the back that are also acceptable. I keep those too. But then there are some with surface scratches on the front or a print line that doesn't show up easy in photos. I'll resell those on consignment and buy another until I'm happy with it. Last sale of a PSA 10 2002 Topps chrome Tom Brady Refractor is $22k. For around 2k I own it in a 9 and can't see a single thing wrong with it. I'd rather have multiple 9s with extra cash in my pocket. If I were rich, I don't think I would think any differently.
@ryanra44
7 ай бұрын
Agree. All these people saying, “if you were rich you would be want the PSA 10s”. FALSE. I would still buy the BGS 9.5, SGC 10, or PSA 9 for half the price for better and pocket the extra money and buy something else I want as well
@jasoncox478
7 ай бұрын
I personally want some upside on the PSA 10......Prizm basketball was $1,000 for goodness sakes. How can collectors hope to ever get their investment back without it? This argument doesn't make any sense to me.
@jwiedle86
7 ай бұрын
lol went from buying the card, to buying the slab, to now buying the sticker lmao 😂 idiots spending $150-200k extra for a gold sticker
@DanielCordone9
7 ай бұрын
It's a joke. I'd never pay that for a PSA 10. Should buy the card. Most PSA 10's are equivalent to BGS 8.5's
@will-grier-investor
7 ай бұрын
Validation is priceless! I want someone to grade my graded cards! Wait...they already have that? 😮😮😮
@Grizzgrizzly1
7 ай бұрын
Love the video. It blows my mind too on the gaps for certain cards. Wait till you look up vintage cards from 9s to 10s… crazy multipliers
@larrygitlin6017
7 ай бұрын
The grade is just an opinion and I guess some people have money to blow. I take advantage of SGCs lower prices.
@KareemPies49
7 ай бұрын
Might as well save even more money, raw is better than SGC
@ryanra44
7 ай бұрын
@@KareemPies49how does that make ANY sense. Why would you buy a raw card (that likely has flaws) when you can get a card that is identical or better than the PSA 10 for much closer to the raw price.
@KareemPies49
7 ай бұрын
@@ryanra44 because no one in the hobby likes or buys SGC , so now you have to take a risk and crack the holder, and get back to raw.
@ryanra44
7 ай бұрын
@@KareemPies49 my $20,000 in sales every year says people do buy SGC slabs. They also grade over 140,000 cards a month. Always funny when I run into noobs that worship at the alter of PSA and piss away money paying a premium for that PSA 10
@sammyhill93
7 ай бұрын
Great insight from the soapbox, T-Pott! Lovin’ the new background scenery as well 👌🏼
@shinrie4989
6 ай бұрын
Let's be honest if you are in the market to buy a Jordan Rc, price is more than likely not an issue to that collector.
@80sFreak100
7 ай бұрын
Hi T-Pot. I want to bring your attention to a blatant overgrading of the 3 finest 1952 Topps #311 Mickey Mantle cards graded PSA-10 Gem Mint. I have physically inspected 2 of the 3 cards myself in my very hands. I have not physically inspected the "Diamondbacks Collection" piece that was owned by Tom Candiotti. However, I have seen photos of it. All 3 examples in PSA-10 suffer from the same major flaw that is easily seen by the unaided eye. They all suffer from diamond cutting, meaning that each card is not cut straight. They all seem to have nice centering until you observe that the borders on each side of the card are different widths on each end of the card on the same side. The unsung hero in this situation is the "Mr. Mint" Al Rosen specimen that was graded SGC-9.5. In my honest opinion, that card is the single finest example! It is cut straight and is a far superior example to the 3 graded PSA-10. Please look into this and do a video on it. It is EYE OPENING! BGS and SGC would each grade those cards in the 7 to 8 range, far from their elite PSA-10.
@miamibreaker3053
7 ай бұрын
That’s why it’s so tough for me to grade my cards prices are so ridiculous
@trentfable4069
7 ай бұрын
Yah its to the point that CORRUPTION can and will be a huge driving point of the grading services. If I know graders on any level in any form I am paying a premium all day every day for 10s. Until humans are completely taken out of the grading scene than its not to be even remotely trusted.
@juliecantina8479
6 ай бұрын
My thoughts would be if you buy an item with a premium, it has better resale value because of that premium. No always, but most of the time. The same idea when buying precious metals
@polishmasterjay
7 ай бұрын
Yes indeed!!! Sorry felt good to hear this I agree 👏🎯
@CARDSINTHEATTIC
7 ай бұрын
AND THIS IS WHY ALL GRADING SHOULD BE DONE BY A COMPUTER BECAUSE IT'S ABSOLUTELY INSANE HOW THE GRADING IS DECIDED BY 1 GRADER AND THEN SUPPOSEDLY DOUBLE CHECKED BY OTHER HUMANS MAKESA NO SENSE THAT A PSA 10 IS WORTH TEN TIMES OR MORE THAN OTHER COMPANIES THAT ALSO GRADE THE SAME CARD A 10
@ShawnStacy-f3i
7 ай бұрын
Yet everybody watching this video keeps buying PSA and paying upcharges to grade with them. The best grader that is actually using technology is TAG but nobody is using them. With them you get the same grade everytime regardless of how much the grader had to drink the night before or if they had a fight with their wife on the way to work. Not true with PSA
@GeorgeRuth7
7 ай бұрын
Psa has 900% more collectors than all the other companies combined. That’s their advantage and it wo change with sgc grading super tough but grading accurately and that will eventually level out things but it’s a big difference that Psa has and collecting bad which rules all. Not grading tougher. More accurately like not two grades to low that’s drives away business fyi
@850CARDBROS
7 ай бұрын
You forgot to mention popularity! PSA is king bc it’s the most hyped- I’d like to see how PSA compares to others on say Instagram in regards to mentions/hashtags etc… perfect example; big time breaker ripped a wemby and within minutes had it graded by… you guessed it PSA… shockingly, it’s a 10… so that definitely skews the numbers
@affirmed_7835
7 ай бұрын
I personally collect 9s (or lower for higher value cards) for this reason. The 10 premium is way out of hand and I just can't justify it.
@gullomic
7 ай бұрын
What your sbout to learn is alot of the real collectors dont go after the perfect 10 cards in the biggest highest selling rare cards that is pure insanity and such a limited market of people. The only reason it is hyped is people have FOMO lol and what they saw happen with the ultra rare cards like Mantle and MJ PSA 10s sell for at PEAKs. when that is like fine art selling to that one millionaire that paid UP for that history. If you get what im saying alot of is over hyped by the people behind some of those ultra expensive cards thats all it is.
@pedrocirino5695
7 ай бұрын
it´s a pissing contest.. plain and simple..
@chrisolivo6591
7 ай бұрын
Bingo.
@scottvaughn9
7 ай бұрын
This makes me want to consider a strategy of finding really clean 9’s to crack & resubmit. 😂
@changedman7627
6 ай бұрын
Some people are successful in getting 10’s… it’s definitely worth it with the price difference in a 10. Heard horror stories too where it comes back an 8…
@JonquilAnderson
7 ай бұрын
Blesssup T Pott!, I was that kid in the 90's dings didnt stop a trade if you really wanted that card...I have 3 binders full of 90's rookies and inserts and I never sent anything in for grading but after looking through my binders, I do want to send my 3 kobe rookies, Garnett, iverson, untouched for 25yrs im gathering some to send off "But should I send to PSA?". I have a lot of rookies from that era and some inserts do have wear and dings and some still looking like the day I pulled them from $2 packs lol! I have a 1993 Upper Deck SE Behind The Glass Michael Jordan insert umtouched and traded for the whole set in the 90's for 2 penny hardaway inserts....I have tons of MJ inserts and been looking to send some in for grading.
@changedman7627
6 ай бұрын
I would only send in cards where you can’t see any flaws to the naked eye… if you can see roughed up corners it will most likely be a 7 or 8…. In that condition a 4,000 dollar card turns in to a 50 dollar card in a slab…
@leehaskins307
7 ай бұрын
Psa sells for more because of the label. Just like clothing , hand bags, cars , etc. the label means a lot. Easy peazy. Label. Label. Label. It’s what people want.
@MarketMovers
7 ай бұрын
I said I don't agree with it and that it doesn't make sense. Obviously it's happening for a reason, that reason being demand. But it's solemn nonsense.
@leehaskins307
7 ай бұрын
@@MarketMovers I agree is non sense… but label means much… just like clothes, handbags, watches.. its just the way it is… PSA is a rolex in sports cards…. a rolex tells the same time as any other watch but certainly costs MUCH more.. why ? lol… label
@tomokogaming8968
Ай бұрын
Everything is basically a scam, and hype, and fomo, and wishful thinking, gambling, all kinds of things
@mangobango6970
7 ай бұрын
The movie idocracy has true roots in the hobby these days. Going back only 4 years and these foolish things didn't exist. I think it's mostly due to all the new people entering the hobby that are to lazy to do thier own homework so they just rely on PSA to tell them what's what. I'm not saying all new collectors fall into this category but there are alot. I'm an old head in the hobby and I don't subscribe to PSA being ANY better at grading than BGS or SGC, but I've been around awhile and know how to do my own research.
@johnmurray6690
7 ай бұрын
Great content! Do another video like this
@jsjajd88i3okejd9oo
7 ай бұрын
The market dictates itself no?
@kmik4466
7 ай бұрын
So funny when people cry about prices. It’s capitalism. The market sets the prices and determines what is valuable.
@timosullivan2499
7 ай бұрын
It is what the market bears and what people perceive. Perception is Reality.
@crankycardguy1369
7 ай бұрын
arbitrage time!!!
@curtisking3094
7 ай бұрын
Displaying a PSA 9 instead of 10 or worse-a bgs/sgc card among PSA slabs doesn’t hold the same weight. We’re consumers, collectors, and in constant search of perfection. And more imperfect or less scarce cards don’t hold the same status. We collect because it’s what we like. If you are chasing perfection then that’s the type of collector you are and you’ll pay the premium, deservingly. Nothing is worth more than what people are willing to pay. Look at the USD, Bitcoin, etc. all of these currencies. They are backed by faith in whatever system regulates them. Scarcity always creates demand because holding scarce goods equals status and provides a purpose to collecting.
@aparise1
7 ай бұрын
And half the 10's are 9's and half the 9's are 10's......its a joke
@BrentonPercy
7 ай бұрын
100% a fact
@geodio
7 ай бұрын
This. 100% this.
@willzsportscards
7 ай бұрын
Yup. The whole weak 10 and strong 9 thing drives me nuts. I know I’m in the minority, but psa not creating a 9.5 is frustrating…especially when you get to high end cards where granularity starts to matter more.
@PhuryousOne
6 ай бұрын
@@willzsportscards Nah, PSA is in the minority with that one. SGC has a 9, 9.5, 10, and Gold Label 10. BGS has 9, 9.5, 10, and Black Label 10. CGC has 9.0, 9.2, 9.4, etc. You need accuracy and precision at the highest grading levels. PSA avoids that at all costs. So many off-centered 10s. So many of the previously stated 9s swapped with 10s. It's the worst. It's the Wal-Mart of grading companies. Do I own a bunch? Of course. Will I be surprised if that empire falls? Not really.
@justinkittleson3295
2 ай бұрын
Well said
@brandonmartin9117
7 ай бұрын
What’s actually crazier is psa upcharge up to thousands for one card
@JohnDellaPenna-hk6tp
7 ай бұрын
PSA where the ones who graded the famous H. Wagner card,once owned by Wayne Gretzky. This card was bought raw for around $1200. The owner then trimmed the card and sent it out to be graded by PSA.. This was in the mid 90's when grading was just taking off. So PSA grades a trimmed Honus Wagner card that went on to be sold several times and it last sold for 2.5. million dollars. The man who trimmed the card was found guilty in court,but PSA who graded this trimmed card ends up being the top grading company if you're looking for the big bucks. PSA started off shady and has had it's share of other scandals over the years since the Wagner card. The grading system is the middle man of sports cards and they decide who gets to make the big bucks and who doesn't....... With AI why can't cards be graded online for all to see... I'm oppose the middle man (grading companies) my Trout rookie card would never grade 10 but someone else's would... Think about the power of the middle man. Not fair,not fair at all!!
@PhuryousOne
6 ай бұрын
Easiest way to take from you. Theft by "fee".
@ICee712
5 ай бұрын
At this point, its a money racket. Its almost entirely like the corruption within the free market - a monopoly. A singular entity gains too much power, creates their own arbitrary laws and rules, everyone falls in line and abides by these guidelines - because for some reason, they are now the authority on artificial scarcity by quality rarity. Over time, it bullies out people that have lesser resources to participate in the hobby. Went from charging to grades cards at a semi-reasonable rate, to now seemingly grading cards a certain rating to maintain a certain population on the grade pop reports, and charging astronomical amounts based on what they think the card might be worth. It's crazy
@mauriciobori
7 ай бұрын
Tpott rants are the best rants in the hobby. Classy calm , full of insight and data. Even if you don’t agree you get to see new cards and learn something new about the hobby you are a True Gem for the hobby thanks for all you do
@chrisplaysmadden8053
6 ай бұрын
The entire sports card investor team has killed it in the past previous years, sure they have made mistakes bur they always try thier very best to give good advice, etc. I could give them much more praise but I'll keep it short. Awesome work guys, keep it up & goodluck with the store in the future, just don't burn out & try doing too much
@DanielCordone9
7 ай бұрын
Lol $27k for a BGS 9.5? It's probably in better condition than the PSA. You no longer need 4 sharp corners to get a PSA 10
@Al-ImprovEd2022
7 ай бұрын
Yes the price differences between grades is insane.
@BigDirtDawg
7 ай бұрын
Everything you’ve said in this video is 100% accurate. And this is why psa is a joke to me. And I’ll never get why the hobby puts such a premium on PSA 10 graded cards. But then again look at the current state of the hobby. The dumbest things make cards run. People have no common sense
@kevinquiles1903
7 ай бұрын
Its crazy how a PSA 10 is 372K and SGC 10 is 67.1K. So you are telling me a PSA 10 is over 300 Thousand dollars more valuable then a SGC 10. That is ridiculous.
@card_zar
7 ай бұрын
Thank God! You make so much sense it hurts. I've been laughed at for picking up rare cards in psa 9
@sp123
7 ай бұрын
Optimal collector grade is different than investment grade. For collectors it makes more sense to buy the 9
@robintaylor-mockingeemill8223
7 ай бұрын
No one should laugh at that , everyone has their own price they are comfortable with .
@EatMyPattys
7 ай бұрын
The reason for the gap is because nobody is actually collecting these new cards. They are all to be flipped. If they were worried about collecting they would buy BGS, CGC and SGC slabs
@ryo1549
7 ай бұрын
This is just not true. PSA is the most prestigious, thus more collectors will buy and pay a premium.
@EatMyPattys
7 ай бұрын
@@ryo1549 overrated
@TheRealJohnHamp
7 ай бұрын
Not sure I would classify a nearly 30 year old, pre junk wax era card as a new card
@aparise1
7 ай бұрын
Spot on....its about the slab not the card
@thebakersmancardgallery6431
7 ай бұрын
I collect these new cards! Only super rare tho. I love the rare game worn/used patches and 1/1s. Unicorn farm
@1predrag
7 ай бұрын
...and PSA doesnt even disclose why a 10 and why not a 9...Beckett DOES!
@DanielCordone9
7 ай бұрын
Beckett are the best of a bad bunch
@thatsamare5346
7 ай бұрын
When it comes to grading, especially a card like the Jordan, they are more interested in the scarcity of a PSA 10, not necessarily the better condition.
@slimmyhendrix4067
7 ай бұрын
Card Collecting isnt just for fun no more. Thats at the bottom of the totem pole now and something mostly for Rich ppl and Card thieves. Its more about the Lottery of it and the side hustle after ppl seen what Trout and Mahommes cards were doing during covid.
@slimmyhendrix4067
7 ай бұрын
With that said, the cards are irrelevant in the grand scheme of things. Condition and Scarcity are merely sales points. Ppl want whatever familiar object that has the most potential to make them the most $$.
@RobertLee-wi5kc
7 ай бұрын
@@slimmyhendrix4067 I think Modern lottery started with 1975 Brett Yount and Carter. First time I saw people trying to get 5 or 10 for future value. In basketball magic Bird 79 and football Payton in 75. They hype outside the stort. Anyone remember Todd Zeile played 16 years 265 hitter but his card was never worth more than before the season started because all of the women in St Louis loved him:)
@slimmyhendrix4067
7 ай бұрын
@@RobertLee-wi5kc I feel like the Yount's and others were more so a Collective Hope as oppose to what we started seeing in 2019. 5 and 6 figure cards in packs smh. All of our American sports have collector's Globally now. So many ppl collect now that dont even watch sports. My brother is addicted to Cards but only knows the players from collecting only lol. Stores cant even keep them on the shelf just because there's a 1 and 10,000 chance of pulling something significant. Yeah I remember Zeile very well, he played on the Louisville Redbirds when I was a kid. Ppl here all thought he was a jerk cause he would refuse to sign anything. He had some good yrs but never like the Votto they thought he'd be. The good ole days huh lol
@richardbianco9674
6 ай бұрын
They aren't scarce though.
@justinkittleson3295
2 ай бұрын
I respect PSA and their dominance in the grading industry. Their slabs hold the most value. But the PSA 10 premium is sickening. I pulled a 2023 wemby Select premier silver. PSA 9’s are around the same price as RAW…..RAAAWWWWWWW. But it won’t change unless the consumers do 🤷♂️🤷♂️
@TheBnicholas1606
7 ай бұрын
Giving another sticker and grade to an already graded card is dumb too
@xennialcards
7 ай бұрын
💯 Thanks for the truth T Pott!
@jayward7549
7 ай бұрын
I totally. Agree,,,,,, with you,,,,,,i remember i told GEOFF ,,3 YRS AGO,,,TO INVEST IN SHOHEI OHTANI,,,AND HE WROTE ME BACK ,,,AND SAID ,,,,,,HES NOT SELLING....RIGHT NOW,,,,,,,,,FUNNY HUH,,,,,,psa Mafia,,, FAMILY
@chrisolivo6591
7 ай бұрын
This is why most of collection are PSA 9 cards. I know that PSA 10 cards command a premium now but there just isn’t much difference in eye appeal between a PSA 10 and 9 to justify the price increase. Now I’m not saying that PSA 9 cards will jump in price, I just think PSA 10 cards will come back to the PSA 9 so there is more balance. The example I always use is the 1989 Upper Deck Ken Griffey rookie. The PSA 9 goes for $200 while the PSA 10 goes for $2,000. It makes no sense that 2 cards that many cannot tell the difference is 10x more expensive.
@KareemPies49
7 ай бұрын
How many more PSA 9 versus PSA 10 are there? Most financially savvy people in the industry avoid mass produced cards like 89 Griffey, but if they do buy they have to go to a PSA 10 to at least have somewhat of a lower pop count.
@chrisolivo6591
7 ай бұрын
@@KareemPies49It doesn’t matter the specific pop count as you said it’s not a rare card. I can go on eBay right now and have multiple options at a PSA 9 or 10 Griffey. Thats what it makes no sense that the PSA 10 is 10x more. Now if there were only 40 Griffey PSA 10’s out there, that’s a different story as it would be a tough card to find and push up the price. I hate to say but the reason the Griffey PSA 10 is 10x more is because we have a lot of dumb people in this hobby. They are followers and gravitate to what they feel will please other collectors. In the end, to each his own!
@brad2879
7 ай бұрын
30,000 PSA 9s vs 4,000 PSA 10s. Can you tell the difference between a PSA 6 and 7? It's all perception. But it's a business and in capitalistic market - of course you need to have varying grades (which is subjective at this time). PSA would have failed a long time ago if this wasn't the case. Someone would run a rest and buy 10 KGJR rookies that are graded a 9 and resubmit and see if they can get a 10. Even if you just made some money!
@chrisolivo6591
7 ай бұрын
@@brad2879A PSA 7 isn’t worth 10x a PSA 6. The Mint grade has always been the gold standard in all types of collectibles before the GemMint term was invented for sports cards. It’s a scam, it’s an artificially inflated high end market that too many people have bought into in the hobby. I see so many off-centered PSA 10 cards on the market, as it’s an absolute joke. As I said, people can waste their money paying for 10’s, yet there is no difference between a 9 and 10 (hence why people know they can resubmit and eventually get a 10).
@KareemPies49
7 ай бұрын
@@chrisolivo6591 if you don’t think Pop counts matter then yes this will never make sense to you. Pop counts explain rarity, if there are 40,000 9s and 3,000 10s then it’s a 13X more rare of a card. I never look at this card but id be shocked if 10s sell at 10X unless there are 10 times as many 9s. I buy a lot of cards , never thought about what others think, I look at comps and use logic
@thesandiegoupcycler2586
7 ай бұрын
I have a video on my channel where I documented cracking a PSA 6 Topps Gold Foil Ohtani and sending it back to PSA and getting a 10. Check it out if you want a laugh
@sunny8784
7 ай бұрын
whats insane is this..they are all doing the EXACT SAME THING..they authenticate the card, and verify its condition. please explain how PSA does it any different lol
@jasonabernethy8424
7 ай бұрын
Buy the card, or buy the slab? I'm into cards more than slabs. I've become the minority!
@rhq5461
7 ай бұрын
I agree just because PSA puts a 10 on it doesn’t mean it’s really gem mint. Just use your own judgement on the card
@KareemPies49
7 ай бұрын
For most people it’s the same thing, unless you’re a conspiracy theory type. The slab it’s in is because of the card. Unless you meant make sure you don’t buy SGC slabs because they have a 1990s Walmart design, then I agree
@ryanfitzgerald2816
7 ай бұрын
@@KareemPies49 Kareem, you are all over this comments section with your smooth-brain takes. PSA will finally hire you as a grader if you keep it up with the nonsense...
@KareemPies49
7 ай бұрын
@@ryanfitzgerald2816 sorry man I’m not going to cry and play victim. A lot of this stuff is common financial sense
@EdAnde
7 ай бұрын
Same card but the type of plastic (brand) covering it deciphers the price….lol insanityyy
@markstein1916
7 ай бұрын
You didn't need to preface your presentation by saying how much you like grading. Grading has ruined the entire hobby.
@brushben22
7 ай бұрын
@pattysCards nailed it !! To top it all off, our hobby is now full of those who follow rather than think for themselves. I am a pure BGS fan and have crossed many directions with all companies. Beckett is the most consistent
@robinrahmani4705
7 ай бұрын
To add to all this, I have searched certain vintage cards’ pop count of the same card in an SGC slab vs PSA, same grade, and the SGC pop count is lower, but the PSA still fetches a higher amount!! This makes no sense. It’s a vintage card, so already rare, it’s in a decent grade slab (let’s say a 7.5-8), they look the same in the slab (and sometimes the SGC looks better), but the PSA still fetches a higher amount!! No sense. A good example: vintage basketball cards. You can pick up a nice Jerry West/Oscar/Wilt for a great discount if the card was graded by SGC. For the 2nd tier players, the gap is even higher! Hall of famers. It’s absurd, but great for those of us patient enough to know that the gap cannot continue for the high end cards. More and more of the ones in a high grade PSA slab are going into PC’s and not see the light of day for a long time. So if the demand for those cards continues (which I anticipate), then those interested buyers will have no option but buy their desired card in an SGC slab (because that’s what they find on the open market and internet). They will have to go to shows if they absolutely want it in PSA. However, for the buyers who primarily rely on the internet for their sales and purchases, SGC is what they will find as a the best available option, especially when they would be more-appropriately priced. That will organically drive up the value of SGC slabs. Same would happen to PSA 9’s, just not as much for the modern cards due to high pop counts. This is what I believe. Let’s see.
@michaelcreeden1560
7 ай бұрын
I am a fan of SGC, but SGC doesn't "really" have a lower pop count (with everything else being equal). SGC has a lower pop count because they receive fewer grading submissions than PSA. Also, just because a card is vintage doesn't make it rare. Lots of vintage years were produced in pretty large quantities. The rarities with many vintage cards is more based on them having better centering/condition/eye appeal. I am collecting a base Topps player run of Hank Aaron, in mostly SGC 3 and above. There isn't much rare about a mid 60s/70s Hank Aaron card in a mid grade. If there a is a price premium on certain mid-grade vintage cards it's due to eye appeal. There is a non data-driven element to "buying the slab, not the grade" and that is collector OCD. I have slabs in both SGC and PSA, and I will admit displaying them visually together does bother be a little bit. I have had to remind myself I bought the card, and simply try and display my PSA slabs with other PSA slabs, and my SGC with SGCs. For those that started collecting with PSA, they may just never want a different type of slab of this exact reason. Just my two cents.
@johnshoemaker234
7 ай бұрын
Would it help if I toss a Hundo in my box when I send my card in to get graded? LMAO
@farlow126
7 ай бұрын
I may be in the vast minority, but I don’t think Saphire is a nice set. I love that they are rare, but to me they are butt ugly and that is why I would never buy one. The base Topps or a refractor are much nicer IMO.
@markstein1916
7 ай бұрын
Collect cards- not slabs. Or just switch to memorabilia.
@RickM23
7 ай бұрын
Long time collector here. I grade my cards and sell most of my PSA 10s and the profits I use to build my PC.
@howardwangleonwang88
7 ай бұрын
372k usd That’s price of a high end apartment here in Taiwan,Taipei 😆
@plng5353
7 ай бұрын
13x is not 1300% more. It is 1200% more.
@t-pott4504
7 ай бұрын
haha youre right! good catch!
@ryanra44
7 ай бұрын
THANK YOU for making this video. This is why I almost exclusivley buy BGS/SGC slabs when buying gem mint graded cards. Makes no sense paying that premium. If the player performs and the card goes up all the gem mint copies will rise. If the player stinks, you lowered your exposure
@EdAnde
7 ай бұрын
I know you may not agree with this but it’s to extent to just buy sgc and bgs and send it to psa for regrading , I actually really enjoy bgs by the way
@ryanra44
7 ай бұрын
@@EdAnde I don’t know what you are trying to say in your comment “it’s to extent to buy BGS”. What does that mean?
@EdAnde
7 ай бұрын
@@ryanra44 that bgs has always been the go to for grading and that if it were to ever be on top again it wouldn’t surprise me one bit at all
@ryanra44
7 ай бұрын
@@EdAnde I think they are in a death spiral unfortunately. It would take dramatic changes to turn that company around. Slab redesign, new labels, better marketing, turn around times, pricing. Basically all they have going for them is their brand name, sub grades, and labels
@MatthewWright-z5p
7 ай бұрын
The PSA 10 Jordan is a Gold Diamond... equivalent to a black label BGS 10
@thebakersmancardgallery6431
7 ай бұрын
I collect super rare cards as a collector. I buy the card because I need the card. As long as its authentic and in good shape it doesn't matter who grades it
@Bearded_Viking87
7 ай бұрын
I have done my best to utilize the price differences honestly. I think we will be in a time where SGC and PSA will be called almost identical. But that's only my opinion which don't matter to much.
@KareemPies49
7 ай бұрын
Same thoughts as the people that think Hyundai will be equal to Audi some day
@DanielCordone9
7 ай бұрын
SGC and PSA are both awful grading companies. BGS are the best and they're not great. They don't confirm receipt of your packages
@JackCecil
5 ай бұрын
I totally agree that graded cards are disproportionately valued due to obscure sales figures. Especially a low pop count card. There’s essentially no set value to cards, and they sell for what the market provides. The graded cards are great for higher populations in order to set the higher quality apart from lower, but honestly the graders are so inconsistent, there needs to be a set standard universally followed and proofable before a grade will actually have tangible and comparable value. Essentially, Graders need to be graded or governed. Probably impossible.
@johnmabie5266
7 ай бұрын
You know things are crazy when the cases to protect the slabs cost more than grading the cards.
@larrysclassicsports
6 ай бұрын
High end cards is all about some rich guy having the best copy in the world. It is all subjective and 99.99999 of collectors are not in this high end market.
@JSP_EMAN
7 ай бұрын
T Pott - love the content and message. Please do a Data Dive on the pop report of junk wax rookies graded pop vs modern rookies graded pop and compare why the junk wax rookies pops are lower than the modern pop rookies.
@AlanForest
7 ай бұрын
Hey T-Pot thanks for the informative video personally my choice of grading companies are BGS,PSA,SGC,&TAG. I don’t have a 1 dominates all choice despite the price difference and PSA being king of the market.As long as it’s a 9 or higher and slabbed I’m happy
@thesandiegoupcycler2586
7 ай бұрын
The real question is: Are the PSA slabs overpriced or are the SGC 10 and BGS 9.5s underpriced? What is the "true" value of a "Gem Mint" example of any given card?
@digginginthecards
7 ай бұрын
Wait till they grade the graded-graded Jordan, that could get 3 milliom dollars.
@josiahmcctchn
7 ай бұрын
I totally agree. Great video. The gap makes no sense at all.
@bran7134
7 ай бұрын
I have thinking this for a while as well. Thank you for this video. It needed to be said.
@SpursCards21
6 ай бұрын
We are the very few that really only care about collecting anymore. Pricing tools have made it much easier for people to pay less and less for each time a card sells. Every won auction is an overpriced card. Remember when Beckett magazines overhyped the prices, we’ll pricing tools did the same but only in a much faster time thanks to the internet.
@NathanBairdIndyStar
24 күн бұрын
Good stuff. Idea for follow-up: How has the PSA GM 10 multiplier ratio changed over time for iconic cards, and what does that tell us about the long-term market? Useful both for people buying/selling those cards but also maybe tells us how the most premium modern cards will appreciate.
@kryptic8956
7 ай бұрын
I'm a dad and my family is a single income home (me). I like to collect for my little kids to give them something nice when they get older and I also like to try to buy and flip so I can make more money to give them a better life. Sadly if it's not a PSA 10 its almost not worth grading due grading fee and etc.. I truly wish PSA had some good competition, but everyone wants a PSA 10.
@alessandrorossi1294
6 ай бұрын
Stocks are better for building wealth
@garygor1960
6 ай бұрын
You are not taking into account the market for set registry competition I'm somebody who participates in the PSA set registry the competition in rivalry between collectors is intense. One time I got five collectors battling over a 1968 Topps hockey PSA 10 Bruce McGregor pop 1 of 1. I sold that $4 card for over $2000.
@grownmanlookingatsportscar194
7 ай бұрын
Agreed. Guess it’s up to buyers to stop paying so much for PSA 10s. Or pay more for SGC, BGS or CGC. Market has dictated this - not PSA’s fault.
@topps85401
7 ай бұрын
PSA 10 premiums 10X plus is nothing new. This guy must be new in the hobby.
@FirstCatch
7 ай бұрын
One grading company with security slabs. That’s the future! Any Temptation to open a slab would be destroyed!
@sebastienhhoude
7 ай бұрын
Simple as that : The people behind PSA are pushing an artificial value on something almost identical as Beckett 9.5. The price gap is ridiculous. People in the hobby needs to wake up.
@TheZorro1604
7 ай бұрын
I think, if getting the graded card for my own PC without thinking of selling it, I won't care for the grade as long as it looks apealing with the naked eye, but if getting the card graded for selling purposes, I would want the highest grade possible to make more money out of it. for example, psa 9 looks better than a psa 10, because I know I will get more money out of the 10.
@homeroscollection
6 ай бұрын
I am new to collecting and grading. I am collecting Mattingly era cards and I also don't understand why on these "cheaper" cards a 9 is $15 and a 10 is $100. That is a 300% difference for a small defect. Therefore, I am using CGC to grade my cards. At least if I need to sell any, I ain't losing money, hopefully breaking even.
@Hoochly
7 ай бұрын
LoL, it’s all a house of cards 😂 Everyone knows this but the ecosystem is what it is….its mind boggling…but fun to watch.
@RobertWalterweldon
7 ай бұрын
Hey ladies look at my 9 inch unit....i am the man.... Next guy walks in...Hey ladies look at my 10 inch unit...I AM THE MAN! The only thing thats detectable is the sound of crickets surrounding the man with the 9 inch. Society demands and the by- product is peer pressure which makes people feel thst the 10 os the Holy Greil. My cards are better than yours cause i gpt 10s and you don't. Pisses me off like no other. Its our own fault we place a higher emphasis on bigger and better.
@montana01
7 ай бұрын
Everyone’s PSA 10’s are in trouble, if the hobby switches to an AI grading like TAG. All those 10’s will range from ~900-980. In reality… they are all cases, and it’s arguable between who grades better.
@sepasportscards
6 ай бұрын
I have been telling people this for years. If you truly love collecting, you would much prefer having two or three 9's over one 9.5 or 10. Especially if it's for your PC. The problem is people just want to talk about scarcity. However, we constantly see mistakes and inconstancies with grading. The price difference from a 9 to a 10 isn't justified for most cards. Newer collectors are following content creators quoting what a PSA 10 is worth and that is what they are chasing.
@hectorc1663
7 ай бұрын
Buying a Gold marked PSA makes sense that it would go for more but the question that should be discussed is why a premium company like PSA's 10's are being graded by another individual or company for eye appeal. Are they not already GEM Mint? Goes to show you the scam that is both grading and PSA's lack of quality control. As PSA themselves have said. One grader could give it a 10 and another grader can give the same card a 9. So many people have drank the PSA kool-aid and in truth they are one of the worse "grade" companies.
@Axle3369
6 ай бұрын
Hey, I agree to a point but I also think that grading has ruined the hobby for many. Here’s my opinion. For one, if you have a card in pristine condition, you get it graded. You pay to get it graded and then you get an upcharge because of the over inflation of the psa 10 grade as you said. If a card is mint, it’s mint without a stamp of approval that is given by a company (not just psa) but all who make mistakes and also have been known to save the pristine grades for people who aren’t common joes, especially if the pop count is low. So unless you’re going to sell that card, it is a waste of time to grade in my opinion. Because you get upcharged even say $200 because of your potential to make more, is $200 that you don’t have to spend on other cards if you’re sitting on it anyways. Secondly, as you said that the sales numbers for them are 🤯 insane amounts of money. Now to find a raw card in good condition with book price of let’s say $250 raw. Psa10 you will pay I’ll be generous and say $1250. Now to find a raw card that should sell for $250 or maybe less, you’re finding people asking $300-500 raw just because of a hypothetical potential if you decide to grade it. I quit for many years when grading came out. I returned to the hobby for a few years around 2010 and I just started again. I just am seeing that grading is out priced many hobby collectors even on raw cards and to me this is sad. Just my opinions
@B0bDylAnFan82
6 ай бұрын
For your PC, buy the card not the grade. I bought a 1968 Topps Nolan Ryan RC graded a PSA 6. The card is 50/50 centered with sharp corners and no white on the edges or corners. The card would pass as a PSA 8. I paid thousands of dollars less for my 6 that looks better than some 8's I have seen. I'm contemplating cracking it and get it re-graded, but since it's my PC all that matters is how nice the card looks and knowing it's not altered.
@bsaul17-17
7 ай бұрын
Tpott is 100% correct. Couldn't agree more. It's a piece of plastic graded by someone who is giving his or her opinion. It's an opinion. This person could be having a good day and PSA 10 everything and there could be some grader having a bad day, pissed off at the world and giving a card that should get a 10, give them a 9 or lower. And I've seen many PSA 10 cards out there that don't even have 50/50 centering! So it really depends on the person's mood that day. These PSA 10 prices are out of control. I am glad someone like Tpott is calling them out.
@fantasy_writer_38
6 ай бұрын
100% agree. Was at the Philly show recently and bought a ‘85 Puckett RC in a PSA 9. It looked better than the 10 that was there and instead of paying $800 I paid $45 for essentially the same card lol wild times
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