“We deserved to get punished” sends chills down my spine
@professorpengu502
7 ай бұрын
Like both punishers know they aren't good people
@jamescuttler8047
7 ай бұрын
Yeah but the real victims are his family why did they deserve to be punished
@guymanvr22
7 ай бұрын
@@professorpengu502 Fr😢
@guymanvr22
7 ай бұрын
@@jamescuttler8047 Agreed. Punisher is such a good character
@hectorlumbagoCringe
7 ай бұрын
You’re super cringe
@carlosjaundoo3188
6 ай бұрын
its a paradox. going back in to prevent maria and the kids from getting killed, would destroy the punisher timeline. future frank gets it.
@BennonNgosa
5 ай бұрын
Miguel: Sorry, Frank, it's your Canon event my guy
@chrissoto7187
5 ай бұрын
Doesn’t stop him from bringing them back to life
@SaraBlade
5 ай бұрын
@@chrissoto7187doesn't stop those he killed from coming back as well
@xlbeanboi2653
4 ай бұрын
@@SaraBlade what it’s time travel, if his family died there is no reason for the punisher to exist, changes civil war, and the whole dead thanos future
@jayp8546
4 ай бұрын
No they explained in end game that’s not how time travel works
@TheCheeseWall
7 ай бұрын
“We deserved to be punished too” “Yes, but they don’t” “Oh damn you right” *goes back in time*
@BamBam_TYM
7 ай бұрын
Life is the punishment, death releases you to the freedom of the afterlife. Atleast that’s true for marvel where multiple afterlife’s are confirmed.
@professorpengu502
7 ай бұрын
And then it creates an endless paradox because if they dont die then cosmic ghost rider doesnt exist and if he doesnt exist then he couldnt have altered the past
@drewprosser8861
7 ай бұрын
The amount of lives he would essentially kill from bringing all the criminals he murdered back to life from his time as the punisher would actually be punishing the innocent you can’t fuck with time bro how do you not get that after all the pop culture references to time travel in tv and movies
@fritztopher
7 ай бұрын
😂
@alexsolomon8127
7 ай бұрын
also....bringing the family back into the world frnak castle inhabited as the Punisher is NOT a good thing. witness the recent storyline where the Hand tries with frank what they once tried with Daredevil. they were able to ressurect his wife..thankfully not the kids. it didn't end well.
@oddysixl
7 ай бұрын
“You ain’t my first ghost rider”
@jordanrubin4765
7 ай бұрын
Such a hard line!!!
@Faustin_Ducasse
7 ай бұрын
More like "future me ain't my first ghost rider".
@zetasann
7 ай бұрын
theres no way the punisher could fight ghost rider right?? I know next to nothing about the punisher though, as far as i know hes just a dude with alot of guns
@RomanvonUngernSternbergnrmfvus
7 ай бұрын
@@zetasann he is a MARINE with a lot of guns and he has taken on a couple ghost riders and survived if not won. He also became one of the most powerful ghost riders. A marine and his rifle is no joke just ask jfk
@Dana-61
6 ай бұрын
@@RomanvonUngernSternbergnrmfvusNah, it's just overrated
@badman3000
7 ай бұрын
The thing is Cosmic Ghost Rider did try to save his family he just couldn't.
@PanthorPapa84
7 ай бұрын
Then that's what he means? "I have all this power, but i still fail to save them. That is my punishment." I wonder which cosmic power is responsible.
@TheJuggerClutch
6 ай бұрын
why couldn't he?
@Dr._Mantis_Toboggan_Md.
6 ай бұрын
@@TheJuggerClutch cause he got capped by the watcher with a giant revolver 😂 or the infinity gauntlet, my memory's a bit iffy.
@WeaponXSigma
6 ай бұрын
@@Dr._Mantis_Toboggan_Md. That was Uatu The Watcher pulling out a giant gun on him
@secretsecret3528
6 ай бұрын
I'm imaging him holding it sideways going " yeaaahhh boy " 🤣😂😂🤣
@KingLeoVT
8 ай бұрын
That is the first time in a long time, those words spent chills down my spine.
@ToryGraceVT
7 ай бұрын
reading your comment help the chills go down mine. thank you.
@JustJoeeee
8 ай бұрын
Another example of how mentally unstable Frank is
@exlpod
7 ай бұрын
"hey, why didn't you go back in time and save our completely innocent family?" "Because WE deserve to be punished" Super self centered, even with God like powers lol
@ghost_1054
7 ай бұрын
@@exlpodpunisher did nothing wrong, he saved a lot of people and even avenged them
@DummyAcoustic
7 ай бұрын
@@exlpodhow’s he self centered?
@DummyAcoustic
7 ай бұрын
@@exlpodfrank has killed more then most villains and frank didn’t just kill villains and bad people he has killed and beat the living out of good ones and reformed villains
@exlpod
7 ай бұрын
@@DummyAcoustic Yeah, and if he went back in time and saved his family all of those reformed villians WOULDNT have got their sht beat in
@AdultToons
7 ай бұрын
Probably the most iconic thing Punisher has ever said. Gives me chills everytime I read it.
@mega_bird700
4 ай бұрын
Ghost Rider Frank understands that you can’t change the past because one small change can cause fractures in the timeline.
@-Peluquin-
7 ай бұрын
"Yes, but they didn't"
@Moedatoe
7 ай бұрын
naw
@p_rnhub
7 ай бұрын
so true
@Graymeyne
7 ай бұрын
But they didn't though. His family is dead. Punishment is for the living.
@AlyssMa7rin
6 ай бұрын
I think the knowledge of Frank's... 'occupation' would be more punishment than they could take. People KNOW who the Punisher is, last I checked.
@andre6522
6 ай бұрын
Have you ever heard of the time paradox? If he saved his family he would never have become the Punisher, and consequently the Cosmic Ghost Rider, which would mean that he would never have traveled back in time to save his family, which in the end would be the same as nothing. Not to mention all the murderous criminals who would never have been killed by him.
@ShawnWeeded510
7 ай бұрын
Concecrated Helfire Rounds......Put him on the Midnight Sons. This encounter could be a legit movie scene and itd work perfectly imo.
@jeremyvenville1531
7 ай бұрын
This sentence has the most warhammer 40k energy I have ever seen
@modude117
5 ай бұрын
@@jeremyvenville1531right? I was trying to figure out what Chapter the Midnight Suns were! XD
@Gonzolok89
7 ай бұрын
He did try, the Watcher made him watch the killing of his family again. It was fucked-up…
@coolraul07
7 ай бұрын
At first, I'm like, "BRUH?! What the FUCK are you doing?! That's literally FUTURE YOU!" After hearing the why and the response, I'm all like, "... ... Oh-hhhhhhhhhhh...."
@deffientllynotjalenbutler1736
7 ай бұрын
Facts and a great story line you should all check out people forget the Punisher is more like Deadpool than Spider-Man
@woodygrym7666
7 ай бұрын
Best punisher panel ever is him acknowledging he’s as bad as the people he kills
@reygunner1644
7 ай бұрын
My all time favorite character. The Punisher! No politics. Just awesome story telling.
@michaelclausen1135
4 ай бұрын
I mean I agree Punisher stories are better when they're personal and not political. But I think it would be easy for a Punisher story to be taken politically whether that was the artistic intention or not.
@MrRolyat98
6 ай бұрын
That was the whole thing about the Punisher. That the reason he lives the way he does is because he’s punishing himself as well.
@SecondBestArtMuseum
6 ай бұрын
It's sad that one of the few times I agree with Frank, it's because he's fighting another version of himself.
@Will-dn9dq
3 ай бұрын
Punisher fights himself in a grave yard. Perfect setting
@PhysGraffiti
5 ай бұрын
“…Exploding the whole place”
@APTTMH_3
3 ай бұрын
"We deserve to be punished too" just incredibly sad.
@KingOfYamimakai
4 ай бұрын
The thing is if Cosmic Ghost Rider Frank Castle travel back in time to save his family it'll create a time loop as everything CGR(Cosmic Ghost Rider) Frank did well be undo meaning saving the family from death would still happen as CGR Frank no longer exist if he no longer exist then the thing he did wouldn't happen. In short he'll create a time loop where CGR Frank will keep trying to save his family from death to the point where time itself will start to break apart resulting in Chronos AKA time itself to intervene.
@OmnipotentSaiyan
7 ай бұрын
He probably would never be The Punisher if he went back and did that.
@kratoscraken5614
5 ай бұрын
Why is everyone so surprised......IS THE PUNISHER! 💀
@shaieresmirnoff
4 ай бұрын
Damn yo….. I don’t know how I feel right now
@umapessoaqualquer3688
5 ай бұрын
"Because when she came back to life she took our money and divorced our a*ses"
@brandongary8234
4 ай бұрын
I'm thinking that Frank understands that he saved a lot of lives when he became the punisher. By him going back in time to save his family then a future hero wouldn't be born who was save by him
@blairbrown4812
3 ай бұрын
I don't know what made Frank Madder:The idea of becoming a Ghost Rider, or a servant of Thanos, or going back in time to save his wife and daughter from being assassinated...or that his future Ghost Rider self smiled frequently,learned how to enjoy life and not take things so seriously all the while still remaining a cold-blooded mass murderer...
@Lemontarts01
7 ай бұрын
Definition of anticlimactic 😂
@DrStabkill
5 ай бұрын
I actually really like the idea of frank castle inevitably becoming ghost rider
@leroilapue15
5 ай бұрын
Punisher becomes future Ghostrider? That is a cool twist!
@MaxBlight
5 ай бұрын
Without that tragedy, thered be no punisher. Wed only have a Marine brovet 😂
@02ninjaman
4 ай бұрын
i mean Frank did stop his family from getting killed, it's just that the Watcher still made it happened (as the day got closer the watcher let him know he ain't going to stop it.} he allowed Frank to mess around with other stuff when he was in the past, just not make any drastic changes as long as the outcome was still the same.
@Zidan8248
19 күн бұрын
It's equivalent to "why batman didn"t kill the joker"
@DeadBoy665
5 ай бұрын
Honest to one another.
@SavantPete
6 ай бұрын
Frank killed people who didn't need to die. That can't just be forgiven
@SavantPete
6 ай бұрын
@toangreenlow2229 Yet Goblin blew up the city and took a bullet for him right after. Then again, maybe he felt Norman was a victim
@Justanotherblackman
5 ай бұрын
Technically, the ACTUAL Ghost Rider has fought Punisher and used the Penance stare on him and it did NOTHING because he has never killed ANYONE innocent.
@SavantPete
5 ай бұрын
@@Justanotherblackman A villian was turning his life around in one comic and Frank blows him up. I think the stare for that specific Frank Castle didn't work. Would definitely work on others
@imaginaryking5276
5 ай бұрын
@toangreenlow2229he was manipulated by mephisto tho
@some1350
4 ай бұрын
@toangreenlow2229 So would a lot of heroes. Poor logic.
@Miguel92398
6 ай бұрын
This is Punisher's canon event. He has the power but he couldn't.
@Crusader316
8 ай бұрын
Canon event
@YungNic
7 ай бұрын
Cosmic Ghost Rider is the HARDEST shit i ever read... started it with Thanos Wins 👌🏾💯
@erossenpai2884
3 ай бұрын
Easy response. "Do they? ..."
@CallofDutyBlackOps28
5 ай бұрын
reminds me like a bit about Ike's father in Fire emblem, Heroes gives a bit of the two, but both griel and Ike are from two seperate timelines, Ike wished to save him, but Griel would say no, it might be hard, but you wouldn't be the man you are today with me still around you.
@fnafking4154
6 ай бұрын
God damn… That was the coldest thing he could ever had said to himself 😭😭😭😭😭
@MayTheOddsBeInYourFavor
7 ай бұрын
….damn. That’s cold.
@weeblelehmann466
5 ай бұрын
Beautiful
@rikflare7970
6 ай бұрын
The punisher has a bullet for every reason 🤘
@aramhodoyan8364
8 ай бұрын
Gotta be done
@willb1742
7 ай бұрын
Damn.... That was deep.
@GreenStrokeHillbilly
6 ай бұрын
If he saves his family, his mission never starts
@marshalsunrise6582
3 ай бұрын
Save them from getting killed No punisher No punisher to save them from getting killed Its a paradox Unless you create another separate timeline in which it all becomes mute since your family will still be dead but another frank will have his family Or be outside of time then you can save them ,but you'll still not have a family because another frank will exist to offset you changing time , its a clusterfuck
@Renkencen
6 ай бұрын
Funny how the past has the gall to say that eventhought there was a comic in which someone could had revive his family but he refused!
@thenegromancer4695
7 ай бұрын
This scene was beautifully made cosmic ghost rider is a amazing reas through and through
@TheRedBrethren
5 ай бұрын
A possible future self anyway
@chungusu
7 ай бұрын
Punisher is literally the strongest version of ghost rider ever to be written into comics and I'm ok with that
@grunt-sw8si
5 ай бұрын
I wish artists would try to pull a grenade pin with their teeth before drawing it...
@deacondawg1416
6 ай бұрын
That was deep 😢
@cxa011500
3 ай бұрын
Damn...that's hardcore.
@SerfsUp1848
5 ай бұрын
Hero comics are special 😎
@Jabberwocker77
5 ай бұрын
I always wondered what would happen if they met. It was way more volatile than i thought.
@ProtectionOfficerThomasLawson
7 ай бұрын
They may cosmic Ghost Rider a joke even though he was literally one of the more OP characters
@jameslilly3750
7 ай бұрын
So him not killing his past self makes him a joke. How
@jcub5855
7 ай бұрын
There's so much more to a character than how strong they are. How shallow can you possibly be?
@Corthmic
7 ай бұрын
He literally didn't want to fight himself, that's all it was. Is strength the only thing you value in characters?
@gokith1119
6 ай бұрын
I just don't get the transition in his character when he transformed into cosmic ghost rider. Like before that, he was a cold blooded vigilante anti hero the punisher. But after the transformation....his character is kinda like deadpool?
@mariobosnjak99
6 ай бұрын
Because changing the past ALWAYS make things worse
@TonySilverteeth
5 ай бұрын
About the thing with changin' the past, in the early Marvel Knights Issues, Frank send himself back in time to when Al Capone was alive, so he could kill him. I think it wouldn't make a difference when just other Families took over the underground alcohol business durring Prohibition and when watching what Michael Franzese said about other Crime Families towards Al Capone, this makes what Castle tried more pointless. With Castle as Punisher, the point is to contain the ecosystem of crimes commited in all forms when it's about needing someone worse than the Criminals against them, to always have their lives at risk.
@jomichealnelson8355
7 ай бұрын
There are past versions of me that I would have to go to war with.
@nomadichippie1930
7 ай бұрын
When they add castle into the MCU I hope he’s the one who gets weapons that kill hero’s like this
@antondelacruz9362
6 ай бұрын
'Consecrated hellfire'? Like saying, 'holy lucifer'
@BullseyesComicBooks
7 ай бұрын
I love this part. 💀
@marcusjames1986
3 ай бұрын
Internal thoughts
@tenshi7478
7 ай бұрын
That’s some bs imagine your future self telling you this tomfoolery on why he was he was too lazy to save your family 😭
@lotto.premiere2698
7 ай бұрын
“I’m Batman”
@SiditySaint
5 ай бұрын
idk what’s more depressing.. this music or your voice 😂
@evilclyde
6 ай бұрын
Oh wow that’s deep
@future_phonk
7 ай бұрын
Damn, that got real.
@kennethgasaway5173
6 ай бұрын
Ya he went back in time.and it did not go well
@Brushswagg24
7 ай бұрын
Franks dilemma with becoming the ghost rider was that he always thought hell would be his own punishment but he escaped that fate and hates himself for it.
@superthirstgaming
7 ай бұрын
"Oh you gonna punish me now?" 😫😫😫 plz punisher im so badddd Bruh what happened to my comic books....
@godking
6 ай бұрын
Frank does not actually want to save his family . War is what he lives for even though he would never admit it.
@GentleGiantJoe
7 ай бұрын
He can't change the past because it causes too many ripple effects through continuity.
@shadowgrinch
7 ай бұрын
Frank Castle always stood on business.
@DwarfDaddy
6 ай бұрын
Okay Future Frank is the only Frank Castle I like, cause he knows he’s a psychopath who would have gone nuts regardless of his family
@Blacsand87
7 ай бұрын
😳 that's deep 👀🤯 😔😮💨
@notbrad4873
6 ай бұрын
Pretty self-centered take by future Frank
@junoyang9694
7 ай бұрын
Punisher : why you didn’t save my family Me/spider-man 2099/ future ghost rider: because it canon event
@jeggsonvohees2201
6 ай бұрын
All this does is asky why doesnt Frank go back in time to save them? We know he could do it.
@MrRichiarditya
6 ай бұрын
I thought it would be canon event stuff
@CheeseIsOverRated
5 ай бұрын
🥺
@RelatableNoob
7 ай бұрын
hes him
@pepe2c
7 ай бұрын
With enough time to think, even the most deranged character finds enlightenment, it's kind of weird and cliche at this point but nothing beats Older versions trying to smack some sense in their younger selves.
@Houd_Vast
7 ай бұрын
Damn
@traviswilcox3472
5 ай бұрын
What comic book / issue # is this from ??
@davidnymann5423
3 ай бұрын
Ok but then how many people end up dying because his family us alove and he never becomes punisher and killing all those bad people?
@ItzOs
7 ай бұрын
Holy shit..............
@hazelnut5851
7 ай бұрын
Cool
@Native2087
5 ай бұрын
Punisher is such a messed up character. He’s a vigilante who kills other villains outside of the law making him a criminal too (by virtue of his mission he should kill himself, don’t get me wrong that’s not a comic I want to read, I just want him to get some sense lol) and then attacks his future self unprovoked because he didn’t get what he wanted, the world isn’t that simple smh (yea, I know it’s a character lol)
@amazingaliens3710
7 ай бұрын
The reason it sends chills down your spine, it's because subconsciously y'all know God exists, consciously y'all deny gods existence. find him and if your searching, he's right where you'd never think to look
@SosaXSeraphim
7 ай бұрын
That's wooo
@anantgamer8952
6 ай бұрын
Bbs play Rust
@ratooeybusinessman6066
7 ай бұрын
He doesn't deserve to be Punished at all lol like, what??
@andre6522
6 ай бұрын
He does.
@ratooeybusinessman6066
6 ай бұрын
@@andre6522 Nope, sure doesn't.
@thosemerc3113
6 ай бұрын
I liked the idea presented in "MAX" universe better: Frank never cared about his family after his return from Nam, and was only looking for a reason to start killing people again, which is why he took his family to that park, while knowing that there'll be a shootout between gangs. Makes him more interesting of a character IMHO.
@GreaterGrievobeast55
5 ай бұрын
_WHAT?!_ that's way too evil! I always heard it was less that he didn't care about his family, but that he just always enjoyed killing people since the war but just had enough of a moral compass not to become a mass murderer. His family being dead Just gives him a lack of a reason to go back to civilian life because no he can kill people that deserve it without any responsibilities
@thosemerc3113
5 ай бұрын
@@GreaterGrievobeast55 Yeah, the MAX series is pretty dark in general, with this plot twist being the darkest of all, but it is a good read, as far as action stories go anyway.
@Qster83
6 ай бұрын
What issue?
@Marcustheseer
6 ай бұрын
"we deserve to be punished to" is just a stupid thing to say,he been waiting his whole life for that moment and then doesnt do annything,typical writters of today.
@andre6522
6 ай бұрын
I think you're the one who doesn't understand the point of all this.
@Marcustheseer
6 ай бұрын
@@andre6522 maybe but the punisher has been waiting for a chance to save his family all the way back since the early 2000 he finaly gets the chance and the writters say na lets not save his family we dont care let them die. the punisher i know would save his family.
@andre6522
6 ай бұрын
@@Marcustheseer Look, even if the Cosmic Ghost Rider had gone back in time to save his family, it wouldn't have done anything because it would have caused a paradox where he would never become the Punicher and consequently he also wouldn't have become the Cosmic Ghost Rider in the future, which would completely nullify the time travel thing, leaving everything back to square 0 anyway.
@Marcustheseer
6 ай бұрын
@@andre6522 oke but thats the writters limited understanding of time travel,you cant undo the past only create a new timeline from the point where you interfear. his future stil exist it just becomes a sepperate timeline.
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