So you're saying that Intel isn't providing the US government enough... intel?
@MrEdioss
4 күн бұрын
Alert! There's a Spy in or intel!
@lucasrem
4 күн бұрын
@kcmsterpce Why you need the federal government ? Just do as in California, ignore them !
@AgagaSnsns
4 күн бұрын
So, you're saying that intel is a US state funded company now? A lot of governments (and people) around the world are gonna ditch intel.
@torcheddreadnought899
4 күн бұрын
At this point I think a 1980s road atlas would be a better source of Intel than Intel 😂
@Fubetuck
4 күн бұрын
AI being used to "rip off" spotify tastes like a most delicious irony.
@lucasrem
4 күн бұрын
Fube Tuck Ai is where you can make money ! What will gamers pay for extreme GPU cards ? Spotify ????
@junko4166
4 күн бұрын
Shame he got too cocky. Should've kept a low profile.
@robertt9342
4 күн бұрын
To bad people misunderstand irony… or AI in this case.
@troletrain
4 күн бұрын
You don't know what irony means. Irony simply means unexpected. What's ironic about using AI to ripoff Spotify?
@james-fx1fq
3 күн бұрын
@@troletrainwhy don’t you look up a definition before you comment?
@garwynrosser8907
4 күн бұрын
Who the fuck predicted that AI would kill gaming? Damn you Skynet!
@tomthebadasscat
4 күн бұрын
You youngin's have no patience. AI andvdevs will get back together sooner or latter and gaming will rock on. 😁
@WCCXtra
4 күн бұрын
@@tomthebadasscat , I also think so. I'm hoping AI actually gives us "next-gen" experiences regarding NPC interactions. Graphical leaps are becoming less impressive and aren't the selling point they used to be.
@GraveUypo
3 күн бұрын
not really. gaming doesn't need any more hardware than it already has. just stop bloating games with stupid graphical features and have reasonable render targets. to me, strix halo in a handheld pc thing (with the possibility of docking) is the future of pc gaming, not a billion dollar pc with an rtx 5090
@Serketry88
4 күн бұрын
11:10 we've seen an AI lawyer before, it got laughed out of court so hard the provider had to take 'lawyer' out of their list of services.
@MrEdioss
4 күн бұрын
The one caught, hundreds still in service.
@harryniedecken5321
4 күн бұрын
@@Serketry88 Using AI to do mundane legal tasks is actually a great use. Probably can cut costs 90%
@trowawayacc
4 күн бұрын
@@harryniedecken5321😂 you mean lay off paralegals that need the expirience to finish school? Or just make them question engeneers. 😂
@harryniedecken5321
4 күн бұрын
@@trowawayacc There is nothing special about any field or line of work. It is just a more sophisticated internet search. It gives access to both $50 / hr lawyers and $1k / hr lawyers.
@AgagaSnsns
4 күн бұрын
@@trowawayaccExactly, that's how you cut cocts
@Derceto00
4 күн бұрын
"Intel is frustrated with the government's slow pace" Isn't that funny? I wonder how people felt with their 13th and 14th gen RMA pace? I wonder.............. 🤔
@blue-pi2kt
4 күн бұрын
Tbf Intel never promised you it would replace them haha
@royevans4581
4 күн бұрын
0:43 image of broken glass panel then shows Paul Shardware. 👍👍
@paulmichaelfreedman8334
4 күн бұрын
That's a bloody sharp one mate! 😂
@Lurker-dk8jk
4 күн бұрын
Definitely intentional, what with the shameless glass-like gleam of the URL as it's displayed.
@WarkWarbly
3 күн бұрын
You could say he... Sharded.
@uptown710
4 күн бұрын
Agreed. I’m pretty sure Nvidia is laughing in money at this announcement. The 5090/5080 will go uncontested so they can price it however they please.
@RockstarRomania
4 күн бұрын
At least I can give NVIDIA credit for not going the Skylake+++++++++++ route like Intel did when AMD was absent from the market.
@mattybdiditt
4 күн бұрын
@@RockstarRomania Introducing the Intel® Core™ i17 Quantum Xtreme SuperDuper HyperThreaded TurboMax UltraFusion RGB+ AI-Powered Gen Z 9000Xtreme++ SkyLake+++++ Platinum Elite Supreme Edition KF
@finneogan
4 күн бұрын
And they will sell as well as the Zen 5 CPUs do now. For gamers, there is no reason to upgrade, so there is no reason to buy even more overpriced similarly performing stuff. And the current derivative AI bubble hype is going to end in a few dozen months as well.
@rhoharane
4 күн бұрын
At some level, I have to ask, am I supposed to shed a tear for people who have enough money to buy a 5090 and only wanted AMD to sell expensive cards so their Nvidia card can be cheaper? It wouldn't hurt them to skip a gen. And it would absolutely not hurt Nvidia if people didn't buy their expensive gaming GPU. Meanwhile, people are still holding on to their 10 series cards for dear life because prices are so bad in most of the world outside of the US.
4 күн бұрын
They can price however they please, but people will have the same amount of expendable money. They'll have to be careful or they might shoot themselves on the foot. People are very ready to keep their old GPUs. Even then, based on these news, AMD is aiming to make money somewhere else, and I don't think they are wrong. Data centers and AI computing make highest end GPU sales laughable.
@haariger_wookie5646
4 күн бұрын
I can 100% understand AMD. Let’s be real: they are not competing with NVIDIA in high end gaming. So focussing on the areas that actually make margins. Maybe in a few years we will see a comeback like with Ryzen? One can only hope…
@Gunni1972
4 күн бұрын
They are not competing with NVIDIA at AI either. At least not according to Sales revenue. NOT YET at least. AMD is still Tiny in comparison. And we are at that turning point, where people understand that AI is not all that it claimed to be. At least not in the civil market. The Defense Industry is an entirely different matter though.
@TheSjuris
3 күн бұрын
They are doing wonders for ps5 though.
@dihartnell
Күн бұрын
While I also can understand it, it's bad for us consumers. watch Nvidia take advantage and raise prices yet again.
@JamieR
Күн бұрын
@@dihartnellWell the majority of the market voted for Nvidia, regardless of their business practices. If people actually bought AMD cards things might've been different. I personally went to AMD because Nvidia's so anti-consumer and gamers at this point.
@dihartnell
21 сағат бұрын
@@JamieR agreed most people are buying NVIDIA in the descrete GPU. My point was the last time AMD ceded the high end and stopped trying, NVIDIA 10 series, and 20 series both saw big jumps in price. No or little competition is bad for the market as a whole.
@goalieman206
4 күн бұрын
I’m fine with AMD not chasing the 4090/5090 but they should at least match whatever the 4080/5080 is. I think this is smart for AMD but as long as it’s still cheaper than their counterparts.
@TheSwayzeTrain
4 күн бұрын
The 80 series is still high end. Supposedly they attempted to develop another chiplet based GPU that would (try to) compete at the high end but their prototypes would be too expensive to bring into mass production. And so they scrapped the idea for this generation.
@goalieman206
4 күн бұрын
@@TheSwayzeTrain I know that. I was saying they should of gone up to the 4080 series. I know they aren’t but they should of.
@RobloxianX
4 күн бұрын
They need to come out with an RTX 5080 killer at $700, an RTX 5070 killer at $400, and an iGPU that can beat the 5060M on a desktop chip that costs $200. That is the only path to victory.
@defeqel6537
4 күн бұрын
If AMD is targeting the mainstream, that's more 50 to 60 class these days, not the $800 70 class or higher
@goalieman206
4 күн бұрын
@@RobloxianX that is never going to happen ever. At best they’d make a 5080 for 899 or 750. I think a 5080 for 700 would be a steal. They would never do that. Minimum of 800
@mark902
4 күн бұрын
Lol. Only big corporations are allowed to have fake songs listened to by fake customers...
@TheHighborn
4 күн бұрын
The reason AMD is dipping from high end is that me, having a 7900xtx means I'm in probably 0.1% of gamers. It's not a brag, it's a sad story. 79xtx is a fantastic card.
@jeffreypaul9428
3 күн бұрын
Exactly, the high end market is so small. 99% of us can't afford a 4090. If you can, congratulations, but that ain't most of us.
@Gofr5
3 күн бұрын
0.1% represent. Definitely will be keeping my 7900XTX for at least 2-3 gens before looking to change it out. It's a banger of a card.
@GraveUypo
3 күн бұрын
sometimes i wonder if i'd be happier now with that card rather than my rtx 4080. probably not, but i don't think i'd be much worse off either.
@TheRealSkeletor
3 күн бұрын
I got the 7900 GRE because it was the best I could afford at the time, and it was at the right balance of price/performance in that moment. I don't have any complaints.
@unvergebeneid
4 күн бұрын
High-end graphics cards used to cost around $800. Now that's a mid-range card. Seems to me like we just introduced a tier above high-end, one that nobody can afford.
@mrwpg
4 күн бұрын
@@unvergebeneid it's a cold war mentality, Nvidia want all the nukes AMD are like you go ahead and bankrupt yourself, we make close enough for half the price.
@jeffreylyons1531
4 күн бұрын
It’s $2000, that’s nothing to a ton of people, I’m so lost on why people whine about it being unaffordable. A new car used to cost 3500, things change.
@Deliveredmean42
4 күн бұрын
Are you trying to compare a car with a gpu? And yes, for the basic costumers that is indeed expensive. Even more so for countries outside of the US. You have to take into account the majority of the population arent going to be able to spend that much conpare to the 5 percent.@@jeffreylyons1531
@TheEVEInspiration
4 күн бұрын
Blame government inflation/waste/radical policies in the long run and competition from AI bubble in the short term. Devaluating your currency and making you earn less every year and paying for more.
@danielharvison7510
4 күн бұрын
@@jeffreylyons1531 Mate...that is outrageous. If $2000 (USD) is nothing to you, try to imagine, just for a moment, that is not the case for most of the world's population. Then try not to be dense enough to write something like that in the middle of the most difficult economic times in recent history. Then try to imagine that it's possibly not wise to overprice things when people are struggling more and more to afford things like computer parts.
@Chris-yc3mm
4 күн бұрын
Not chasing the 90 series is fine, but amd should be competing with the 80 series.
@aberkae
4 күн бұрын
AMD is complicit on GPU prices inflating. They are willing to fall on the sword for Nvidia by fortying it's position in the midrange. AMD's strategy is too dependent on Intel's Battlemage being a failure. If they get it wrong their will be a price war, and gamers will win. If Battlemage has superior rt performance, it's lit!
@OggaDugga
4 күн бұрын
@@aberkaeone can hope but I think Intel has other issues it needs to solve first.
@aberkae
4 күн бұрын
@@OggaDugga it's true but they can't be on an infinite losing streak forever unless it's internal sabotage. Gross incompetence has a different pattern of failure.
@OggaDugga
4 күн бұрын
@@aberkae it’s going to take time to recover from a 15k+ job layoff. Laying off those people will undoubtedly go to your competitors is a tough battle to overcome.
@cloudnine5651
3 күн бұрын
the 80 series is a super small segment. your feelings are just that. feelings. not fact or based on any rational thought
@rhoharane
4 күн бұрын
Unless they already started work years ago, we shouldn't expect any of the UDNA changes to result in an actual product for another 2 to 4 years.
@spacechannelfiver
4 күн бұрын
They've most likely already been working on it for a few years. Companies don't normally announce roadmaps for things they haven't even started yet.
@kriminallogic2283
4 күн бұрын
UDNA was said to be a new strategy moving forward, they sure made it sound like this isn't something they been working on. If they have, I'd be happy. And I hope my 7900xtx can utilize it.
@anonamouse5917
4 күн бұрын
AMD never got offered a penny from the CHIPS act. I'd hate to think of where desktop computing would be if Ryzen never existed.
@zeerevolutionwillbetelevised
4 күн бұрын
Theyre not an american company. Intel is.
@grtitann7425
4 күн бұрын
@@zeerevolutionwillbetelevised AMD is not an American company? Bro, what are you smoking???
@harryniedecken5321
4 күн бұрын
AMD is a great company, but they are a chip designer now, not a chip manufacturing company. They were at one time but spun the wafer fabs off as Global Foundries. The Biden admin is taking so long to disperse the chips act money, might never happen. That is what happens when no one in government understands running a business.
@RamonInNZ
4 күн бұрын
@@zeerevolutionwillbetelevised Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. (AMD) is an American multinational corporation and fabless semiconductor company based in Santa Clara, California, that designs ... Wikipedia.....
@SuppenDfg
4 күн бұрын
Isn't the CHIPS act focused on producing chips. AMD is a chip designer, but they don't produce them.
@kevlarandchrome
4 күн бұрын
AMD builds GPU that beats the 4080 and prices it two hundred dollars cheaper. Everyone craps all over the better price performance ratio because "it doesn't have DLSS", refuses to buy it, purchases inferior 60 and 70 class cards because muh ray traced upscaling. AMD looks at bottom line, "This is stupid and a misallocation of resources. We're going to skip the high end and focus on data center and budget to mid range GPU development." Drooling consumers, "Why would AMD do this? Now nVidia can charge whatever they want, and I'll be stuck paying $1200 for the 5070!"
@gymnastchannel7372
4 күн бұрын
100%. Kind of sad.
@thefilmdirector1
3 күн бұрын
Its been this way for a decade. People were refusing to buy better peforming cheaper AMD parts for the last 10 years even before DLSS and RT were a thing. You cant fix stupid, and Nvidia are masters at marketing to the tech illiterate. Everyone is convinced their computer house and cat will catch on fire if they dare buy an AMD gpu and here we are with 2000 dollar Nvidia garbage.
@Gofr5
3 күн бұрын
Well I did my part with a 7900XTX in my system, but yes you are 100% correct.
@johnc8327
3 күн бұрын
Or people just spent the extra money and got the Nvidia version. Instead of spending $1000 for an XTX they bought 4080 for $1200. Instead of spending $900 on a 7900XT, they bought a 4070ti . Instead of buying 7800xt, they got a 4070 for $100 more. They got similar raster, but better raytracing and Frame Generation. AMD can only undercut Nvidia if they have the same feature set. Nvidia does a good job of making sure AMD doesn't catch up.
@GreyDeathVaccine
3 күн бұрын
@@Gofr5 I am gonna wait for RDNA4. If they don't deliver a decent 1440p card at a good price, then screw it and i will buy RDN2. RDNA3 is still very expensive outside of the US ($150 more than what the news says for the US market).
@GC13
4 күн бұрын
The AI band guy might be okay, a district court ruled that for an offense to rise to the level of fraud you had to specifically intend to make your victim poorer, not merely hope to make yourself richer. Now all he needs is for the Supreme Court to sign off on this bold new interpretation.
@zackw4941
3 күн бұрын
How can the government give a company like Intel 8.5 billion tax dollars and we still don't have public health care?
@sir.fender6034
3 күн бұрын
Because our government only protects the most wealthy and powerful.
@mhouse1712
2 күн бұрын
@zackw4941 I was going to respond with a lengthy comment on your ridiculous comment, but I decided to delete it all and type: leave politics out of this. Let’s all enjoy the commentary on the tech sector stupidity(and other actions) without the [dumb] political commentary.
@ObakuZenCenter
2 күн бұрын
@@mhouse1712 Behave. Be better than this. Shameful!
@zackw4941
2 күн бұрын
@@mhouse1712 I appreciate your restraint. It sucks that most people can't seem to communicate over the internet without lashing out like toddlers. To your point, government assistance to large corporations is not an a-political subject. Those are our tax dollars. I know health care in America is a touchy subject and I don't want to start a heated debate. I've been around in circles with my conservative buddy/coworker who wants nothing to do with government and thinks healthcare should be left entirely to the private sector. My stance is simply that the private health care sector, like most other corporate sectors, have seen prices soar out of control with no oversight. I'm a 40 year old blue collar guy who works hard, full time. My body is wearing out a lot faster than I'm approaching retirement. Despite multiple sources of income, I can't afford the ludicrous price of health insurance out of pocket, let alone the fees that still won't be covered, if I need anything. Which I'm sure I do.. Make of this what you will. I rather have an incompetent organization actually trying to help me, than a competent one who is only interested in money and has priced me out of the market.
@zackw4941
2 күн бұрын
@@mhouse1712I appreciate your modicum of restraint. People should be able to communicate their ideas to each other without acting like toddlers. The headline is already political. Government gives $8.5 billion tax dollars to Intel. As a tax payer, I find this outrageous. Intel is a big company with a lot of resources and this isn't where I want my money spent. It's not like I'm going to get an Arrow Lake processor in the mail for this.. I bring up health care as an alternative that I would prefer to see attended to first. I know it's a touchy subject. I know plenty of conservatives who want nothing to do with government and I get it. But to me, it's a moot point. Private health care, just like every other private industry operating with no oversight, has seen prices soar out of control. I'm a 40 year old blue collar guy. I work hard every day and have multiple sources of income. But I'm not wealthy and I'm not in a situation where any health insurance assistance is provided. And I straight up can't afford to pay for it out of pocket. Let alone the medical fees on top of that, that still wouldn't be covered if I went in for something. My body is wearing out a lot faster than I'm approaching retirement and I don't really know what to do about that. I feel like the government I pay taxes to should try to help me out, before giving my money to the wealthy for free. If that makes me a dumb socialist, then I'm a dumb socialist. Maybe you think I should have my head examined for thinking this way? I'll add it to the list, if I ever get access to health care.
@motelghost477
4 күн бұрын
A win for Nvidia is not a win for YOU, the customer.
@arenzricodexd4409
3 күн бұрын
Customer never actually win.
@Wobbothe3rd
3 күн бұрын
Yes it literally is. Nvidia sells to customers. Nvidia wins because customers choose them, because Nvidia gives them wins.
@snbasd4352
4 күн бұрын
Imagine a guy out there listening to those bot songs unironically. This news just rocked his world.
@Rose.Of.Hizaki
4 күн бұрын
the thing with uk pricing is that youre not only paying the early adopters fee but also VAT which is 20 or 21%. Like most hardware. prices should drop 6-12 months after its initial launch
@BMD8
4 күн бұрын
So are Spotify and apple at all going to reimburse the ad costs to the advertisers that were charged for all the bot views? I can wait for the answer hahaha.
@RavTokomi
4 күн бұрын
I've been saying it for years, AMD does not want to be in the dGPU market. Their desktop parts only exist for R&D and marketing purposes.
@gctypo2838
3 күн бұрын
Their presence in the higher-end market was the only thing tethering Nvidia's prices to a shred of sanity. You can bet that Nvidia's next two gens GPUs will skyrocket that price so high that covid prices will look like a speed bump. Now if you want a high-end GPU your only option is going to be Nvidia. Companies exiting smaller markets to pursue more profitable ones, leaving the end user underserved and overcharged - not a new phenomenon, and it pisses me off every time.
@davidestabrook5367
3 күн бұрын
@@gctypo2838Your not alone there. GPU's being priced so high, that regular folk not being able to afford them, it's not right at all. People go to computer stores and ask, "What's the best GPU?", they're told the latest high end, then because it's too expensive, they buy the one that's in their price range. Basically people buy cheaper models, of whoever makes the fastest flagship. That's why AMD not competing at the high end is a mistake.
@arenzricodexd4409
2 күн бұрын
well make sense. they acquire ATI back in 2006 to kill discrete GPU with APU.
@KoloburTasemi
4 күн бұрын
I wonder if AMDs decided to not compete on the ray tracing front and just release good cards with reasonably high vram. Therefore not being competitive with high end nvidia but still being better value for their prices.
@arenzricodexd4409
2 күн бұрын
that "better value for their price" is has been the thorn for AMD for years now. not only mean it is less profit for them having better price did not really increase their sales either. in fact their market share has been eroded for the past 15 years.
@KoloburTasemi
2 күн бұрын
@@arenzricodexd4409 true but my r9 290 still works great and I bought it in 2013.
@taylorhickman84
19 сағат бұрын
I wonder why they haven't taken a stab at the workstation market, Nvidia's quadro cards need some competition.
@arenzricodexd4409
12 сағат бұрын
@@taylorhickman84 AMD has done it since forever with their FireGL (now called Radeon pro). thing is nvidia dominates those market by over 80% for more than 15 years now.
@mjc0961
4 күн бұрын
Intel doesn't deserve subsidies. The CHIPS Act was always bad legislation. The government should not be putting our tax dollars towards giving the richest corporations on the planet some tax breaks and subsidies. No more socialism for corporations while actual people are struggling in so many ways. I hope the government never cuts those checks for Intel. Put it towards something that can benefit people, like clean air in schools and buildings so we aren't spreading as much disease, school lunches for kids like we had during the height of the pandemic and it worked really well for everyone, or start giving everyone universal basic income and health care. 'Socialism' for the people, not for the corporations.
@WCCXtra
4 күн бұрын
From what I can tell it's a matter of national security. China has its eyes on Taiwan, where TSMC is located. China doesn't have to necessarily take over the island by physical force to access the technology and designs. With its close proximity they may already have spies already in or working towards getting into the fabs. The US building their own means the technology and designs are less likely to get into China's hands. With the AI era just heating up, any country who wants to retain or increase their dominance/influence in the world would do well to have secure access to chip manufacturing technology and designs. I'd feel better if it was mostly a military project, (similar to the way internet came about) with Intel acting in a consulting/collaborating role due to Intel being a publicly traded company with a "fiduciary responsibility" to its shareholders. If this act does go through I'm sure there's something in the contract about not using the funds for share buybacks, but all it takes is some tricky accounting to skirt that stipulation.
@karoltofik8873
4 күн бұрын
This is purely miliatary and national security related. US needs their military chips made in the US, by american company.
@leviathanpriim3951
3 күн бұрын
with x870/870e coming, I expect x670/670e supply to slow down and discontinue
@danelaw
4 күн бұрын
Well - as you say in racing: Win on sunday, sell on monday. So by just having the fastest GPU, NVidia is selling 4060s.....
@leviathan5207
4 күн бұрын
I hate that saying, because it's not even true most of the time. Normies don't give a fuck about racing. They buy a 1.0l Peugot 207 because it's cheap and not because Red Bull won F1 again or whatever...
@careem3463
4 күн бұрын
It doesn't work like this here. Nobody buys Ryzen 5 5600 because AMD sells threadreaper, people buy it because of price/performance ratio
@mjc0961
4 күн бұрын
@@careem3463 It absolutely works like that here. People buy Ryzen 5 5600 because later they can upgrade to a 5700X3D or 5800X3D and have one of the best (formerly the best) CPUs for gaming.
@lycanthoss
4 күн бұрын
@@careem3463it works like that in a different way. If Nvidia's GPU architecture is better at the high end, then it is also better at the low end. The only thing that happens by AMD not competing at the high end is that Nvidia completely dominates the high end and we get the status quo for the midrange and budget GPUs.
@philosoaper
4 күн бұрын
while it'll purely theoretically suck for the wealthiest elite gamers who already didn't care how much the price was, if AMD could release cards in the 4060/70 range at 2/3rd of the nvidia price or less... they could easily build market share and developer support very fast and render nvidia a niché brand... I'm currently forced to use nvidia due to CUDA support though...but finally AMD is getting smart about that too
@arenzricodexd4409
3 күн бұрын
AMD can do that they will still not going to gain market share. Because all nvidia need to do is adjust their pricing and they still win at sales. To beat CUDA AMD need to spend more money and effort to increase their ROCm adoption. Simply going open source here and there will not going to cut it.
@philosoaper
2 күн бұрын
@@arenzricodexd4409 nvidia wont
@Gamer-q7v
4 күн бұрын
RDNA 4 is said to be highly competitive in the low-end and midrange. Battlemage is also expected to be competitive in the low-end and midrange segments. Intel has made massive progress with their drivers for Alchemist. I don't think drivers would be nearly as big of a problem for Battlemage at launch. If RDNA 4 and Battlemage can deliver powerful midrange GPUs at reasonable prices, there is a good chance AMD and Intel can gain quite a bit of market share, and that should hopefully pressurise Nvidia to do better. Competition can make that happen. It's the key to a healthy industry, and it benefits us consumers.
@sultanofsick
4 күн бұрын
The key to making that happen is gamers actually BUYING amd/intel, not just saying they want them to exist to keep their nvidia purchase prices down.
@Gamer-q7v
4 күн бұрын
@@sultanofsick I agree.
@Mr.Genesis
4 күн бұрын
@@sultanofsick Hard agree i use a 6750XT which is faster, and has more VRAM and was cheaper than a 3070. But DA RAYTRACING!! idgaf. when Raytracing is in 99% of games ill care.. but its in 0.1% of games. So its a non-feature i care about.
@dragonmares59110
4 күн бұрын
Highly competitive with what ? The current nvidia card or the 5000 series ? Because RDNA is already barely able to compete with the 3000 series and once again i fear MAD will deliver an underperforming and overpriced product compared to Nvidia.
@GSP-76
4 күн бұрын
@@dragonmares59110Yeah keep telling yourself that...The 7900xtx beats the 4080s handily.
@vulcan4d
4 күн бұрын
Modern midrange should be called high end. The 4090 level of performance might as well be called extreme. So AMD is not competing in the extreme line of GPU products.
@johnc8327
3 күн бұрын
Most PC parts with a 9 in it is meant for extreme / enthusiast. Intel Core 9 , Ryzen 9, 4090 , 7900XTX. In the past the 9 level parts never really existed. Nvidia GPUs ended at 80 series, and Intel only had i7s
@taylorhickman84
19 сағат бұрын
good point, like with cars a new category had to be named that was leagues faster than previous super cars, so now we have the "hypercar" category.
@EloyBushida
3 күн бұрын
I'll never buy an Intel product again after how they screwed me on my 14900k.
@itsdeonlol
4 күн бұрын
NVIDIA GPUs costing $1K and over is crazy... AMD at least is being reasonable...
@arenzricodexd4409
2 күн бұрын
7900XTX is $1000. 6950 XTX is $1100.
@brbbiobreak
4 күн бұрын
All these coments about the "ai bubble" popping from people who can't distinguish the companies building the roads from companies making the cars.
@David-ln8qh
4 күн бұрын
If I hear the line about selling shovels again I might vomit.
@JackMcGuire-em7nt
4 күн бұрын
You have poor people buying Mercedes and BMWs with $1500/mo payments. consumers are too ignorant to chase value en mass.
@glenyoung1809
4 күн бұрын
Gamers need to wake up and realize they’re no longer the primary concern of these GPU makers. NVidia’s last quarter earnings showed that very clearly, AI/DC revenue: $26.3 billion, Gaming revenue: $2.9 billion AMD shareholders see the same thing and the message is clear, why are we focusing on gaming? When the big money is in AI/DC. A lot of gamers with more dollars than sense and an incurable case of FOMO buy into NVidia’s overpriced marketing which simply keeps supporting their continued justification for price gouging the consumer. Gamers need to get off this fixation that GPU companies really care about them when the pricing of the products and their price/performance for various SKUs has been continuously dropping since the crypto boom.
@hardcorehardware361
3 күн бұрын
AMD: Releases 7900XTX $200 cheaper than the 4080 on release trades blows and sometimes outperforms the 4080 Gamers: NO DLSS muh Ray Tracing AMD: Releases 7900GRE cheaper than 4070 Super while trading blows Gamers: 4070 Super has DLSS3.0 and Frame Gen AMD: Releases their own Frame Gen and offers both FG and FSR free along with Freesync Gamers: DLSS is better and AMD bad because muh Ray Tracing Gsync go brrrrr AMD: We are concentrating on other markets from now on and will only release mid range lower end cards Gamers: Why would AMD do this? They need to compete with at least the 4080.......................... Why should they compete? 80% of you wont buy their cards anyways.
@soi8739
4 күн бұрын
Or, AMD went with that weird chiplet approach for the RX7900, 4 chiplets for the memory controllers of the GPU, imagine the latency increase.. Igor's Lab also reported of issues with BIOS pre-release. It matches with what other leakers back then talked about and I think the most likely thing that happened is that they wanted to continue their chiplet adventures but it turned out they couldn't get it working properly and had to shelve the entire chip. Which is why this gen is all low to mid range because they planned those to be monolithic from the start 3 years ago. Anyway, the positive reception I think is because of the plan to grab marketshare which would necessarily mean aggressive pricing.
@arenzricodexd4409
2 күн бұрын
aggressive pricing can be very dangerous for AMD.
@barneymiller4088
Күн бұрын
All these companies see the billions of dollars being spent on AI. The gaming market just can’t compete with that.
@amardeepsingh3952
4 күн бұрын
Please mention about the 25-30 tb hard disc drives
@Jay_the_Caffeinator
4 күн бұрын
Awesomesauce video Paul and Joe! Now I feel even worse, not picking up that open box Sapphire 7900 XTX while I was at Microcenter yesterday. So much for buying a higher end AMD GPU. 😢 I guess I will go back to dreaming of Captain Crunch that always goes so well with PHTN. (Too much sugar for my system.) Caffeinator out.
@Krazie-Ivan
4 күн бұрын
Adored tried to tell us where Radeon was headed a few years back, and now it's official. AMD is allowing Nvidia to set high prices, then slot it's high margin, low effort (cost-effective to develop) GPUs within the pricing stack. they stopped chasing the perf crown with Fury, tho, they really stopped being competitive when GTX600 launched, & have been behind since. the GPU war is (has been) over.
@godnamedtay
3 күн бұрын
I believe this in my heart to be true. It’s maybe 10% the fact that NVIDIA has destroyed them and 90% they don’t give af about spending $ on gaming gpu’s.
@davidlt
4 күн бұрын
There are number of parameters that go into business decision, and we don't know majority of them. Personal opinion, but there is no point for AMD to focus on high-end consumer product. It's high cost, low volume product, which doesn't really fund things further. There is a lot more money to be made using their wafer allocation towards DC products (AI in particular) for the next 2-3 years. Focusing on less SKUs (i.e. less tapeouts, etc.), better value product (hopefully) to grow market share is a better goal for short-mid term. UNDA is also fixing a mistake. Every Nvidia GPU for 10+ years (IIRC) was CUDA capable. That means every student was able to write code, test locally on their gaming laptops/desktop and then scale it up on their university supercomputer. You can do that on low-end Nvidia gaming GPU. This helped a lot for Nvidia to become number one choice for anything GPGPU-compute, HPC/Scientific, AI, etc. Checking, and it seems that GeForce GT 430 was the 1st GPU to support CUDA (released in 2010).
@glenyoung1809
4 күн бұрын
Yep, I’ve been watching the growth of GPGPU since NVidia announced and deployed their CUDA SDK for their GPUs. And note that the first real breakthrough research in AI (deep learning) was in 2012 in computer vision (Alexnet) using two 3GB GTX 580s, that tells you that NVidia’s investment in CUDA wasn’t a joke or distraction as it was characterized back in 2010 by some gaming publication and journalists. According to wiki the first GPUs supported were even earlier, the GeForce 8800 Ultra, GeForce 8800 GTX, GeForce 8800 GTS(G80) series in 2007.
@konradc.7310
8 сағат бұрын
Amd did the same with rx 580 and rx 5700x, and both cards were awesome and are still relevant today, because of aging like fine wine.
@KeradSnake
4 күн бұрын
Died 2019 UDNA: Born 2024 Welcome back, GCN
@willywonka6487
3 күн бұрын
they gave up because nvidia mindshare is so intense they refuse to buy amd.... I went back to amd gpu lately and its very good
@squeezemaster1064
4 күн бұрын
I don't understand these newfangled cases. How do fans, pointed at the tempered glass, keep the components cool ?😳
@jetah50
4 күн бұрын
air... flow.
@djmccullough9233
3 күн бұрын
Translation; they dont.
@LuxCarpe
2 күн бұрын
Paul should do a pure consumer advocacy play called _Paul's Shartware._ Really get the boots out.
@MrChomiq
Күн бұрын
AMD realized that they don't want to fall for the same trap of having to choose between selling $1500 consumer GPU or a $5000 datacenter level GPU.
@zrpggamer
4 күн бұрын
They are using their production capacity and wafers to make cards for the servere side, with UDNA they will be able to make both .
@RAZTubin
Күн бұрын
In case you haven’t noticed, many gaming companies are closing, and even developers at Microsoft are being laid off. The gaming era might be reaching a plateau, if not a decline.
@sureberferber9101
3 күн бұрын
PS5 Pro: Concord Recovery Edition
@headlesschickenfarm
3 күн бұрын
0:28 "I'd hesitate to dunk on Console Gamers too boldly a misfired meme could easily cause damage to our own tempered glass side panels" This a great statement as a lot of PC channels have proved that they: A - do not understand either PC or console hardware B - Do not know how to build a proper PC as almost all of the builds guarantee stutter and poor performance and those that did not were almost all by accident. I have had to write off a number of channels as serious information sources because of their responses, which is a pity.
@justatim8143
Күн бұрын
It is sad how they raise the cost and make their boards as cheep as possible. I was doing research on the Gigabyte Ice boards to find one that has 8-layer PCB and only the Master comes in 8-layer as even the second board X870E AORUS PRO ICE come with the cheaper 6-layer PCB. They stated that the 8-Layer PCBs design effectively lower the component temperature by its high thermal conductivity and low impedance where the 6-Layer only has Mid-Loss. It is a shame you can't even buy a quality mother board in ATX.
@ceuser3555
3 күн бұрын
Playstation consumers, if you buy the PS5 pro at the $700 price then you are setting the minimum moving forward at that level. If there was one thing the GPU crisis gave us, it was to not allow manufacturers to dictate pricing. Boycott them so that they could rethink the pricing. If you do not unite then you will all suffer like the NVIDIA consumers.
@arenzricodexd4409
2 күн бұрын
some pc gamer think too much of themselves. there are reasons why ARM, Imagination and Qualcomm did not want to make discrete GPU for pc. in case of qualcomm a few years ago their revenue is even higher than AMD and nvidia combined. and yet they still did not dare to enter the market.
@andersjjensen
3 күн бұрын
Moore's Law Is Dead reported a long ass time ago that top end RDNA4 was cancelled because it was a way too ambitious chiplet design that didn't pan out. AMD wanted to use the same bonding technology as 3D V-Cache uses to make make top mounted silicon "interposers" that straddled the GCDs, but for some or other reason(s) it didn't pan out. So we are just going to get the monolithic variants this time around.
@GPStuntMan
4 күн бұрын
11:36 I think Bill Clinton used to tell Monica the same thing "While you're down there" 😆 🤣 😂
@justsomeguyinnc473
4 күн бұрын
In your head for 30 years and counting...
@porkkanaraaste6692
4 күн бұрын
Radeons should have always been muuuch cheaper than what they are, to be a viable option. Now that they have realized it themselves, this should be good for AMD. Stop wasting money with the high-end stuff as they can't match a 90-series card anyway, the nVidia product package is just overwhelmingly greater - which also is bad for consumers, due to not having real competition. Also a reminder; AMD really has shot itself into its feet, not taking advantage of all the chances it was handed; such incompetence. So AMD needs to make lower-tier cards that they could actually sell, like they are going to do. The high-end "battle" wasn't really a thing, definitely wasn't a balanced rivalry. Intel and AMD now just have to fight over the left-overs. I still sense hard times for Radeon, due to Intel's GPU's being pretty damn good propositions already.
@Razzy_III
4 күн бұрын
No company is magnanimous, but you have to understand that this strategy IS the one that got us Ryzen as good as it is. The framing “turning back on gaming market” I think is just the wrong way to look at it. Eventual UDNA merge means we’ll get all those datacenter benefits down the line. They’re going to be designed to scale up to mega-chips that take entire racks with chiplet based designs. Once that’s sorted it becomes (relatively speaking) trivial for them to scale future generations from low end go high end just like Ryzen, pretty much only constrained by power for how many chips they can cram onto the highest end one. RDNA4 is midrange only because it’s a stopgap, a write off that isn’t worth the effort to make a fundamentally different set of cards like the 7900XT and XTX were. I don’t know if RDNA5 or UDNA6 but one of them is going to come back to high end; assuming they can pull off chipleted GPUS as well as they managed Ryzen. And 7900XT and XTX aren’t truly chiplet GPU designs; the IO and memory controllers are split off but all COMPUTE DIES are monolithic. When they can split off and combine compute dies is when they’ll stroll back into a full product range, because it’ll cost them very little to do because the development would have been funded by the datacenter side which needs them to figure out that problem at many times the scale.
@techluvin7691
4 күн бұрын
The only thing AMD’s statement will do is increase prices for used Nvidia GPU’s and that’s good for me as I have quite a few 30 series cards.
@LuxCarpe
3 күн бұрын
AMD is NOT abandoning high end GPUs. It is just the first to redefine "GPU" from "Graphic Processing Unit" to "Generic Parallel Unit". Graphics is not the _only_ application of parallel processing, and _not even the biggest_ anymore. Moving on.
@glenyoung1809
2 күн бұрын
AMD is abandoning high end gamers for something much more profitable, the gaming sector is saturated while AI/DC is still the Wild West in terms of potential growth. Many gamers still think of AMD as a strictly gaming hardware company, when in fact AMD has been trying to compete with NV CUDA for the past decade. They finally got a toehold in the AI market with their MI series accelerators which will give them the profitability to keep competing against NVidia. Gaming is now niche for both companies and no longer drives their future direction, something many commentators here don’t seem to recognize or acknowledge.
@LuxCarpe
2 күн бұрын
@@glenyoung1809 You are making distinctions where none exist. Graphics and AI are just applications of parallel processors. AMD is just altering its marketing to push the current AI trend. It is risky since AI has always been a dark horse whereas gaming is a far less risky bet. Possibly AMD will dump discrete GPUs to focus on integrated CPU/GPUs. Competing against Intel AND nVidia must be tough.
@LordApophis100
2 күн бұрын
High End GPUs is currently just high risk/low reward for AMD. People buying those cards are very set on Nvidia and AMD needs to be around 40% better performance/price in the high end to get any sales. Most people crying about AMD skipping high end are just those people who want Nvidia GPUs cheaper...
@TyNeePen15
4 күн бұрын
Man I hate American pricing on everything. Lol. $1,600 USD ($2,175 CAD) for a 4090? The cheapest you'll find a 4090 near me brand new is $2,400 Canadian Pesos ($1,765 USD). Every time I watch a video saying "Build this awesome PC for $700!" or read a comment like "For $700, you could build a PC that would destroy the PS5 Pro". I call bull shit. I will use the exact same parts they use on the video, and still come out over $1,000 USD. My PC was around $1,600 CAD (Obviously just the tower) when I built it back in 2019 (Literally right before anyone ever heard of COVID). Ryzen 3600X (now has a 5800X3D) and RX 5700 XT, B450 Tomahawk MOBO, 16GB of 3200 Mhz RAM, 500GB M.2 SSD (Boot drive), 2TB SSD (Later added another 2TB SSD). By no means a "high end" gaming rig. But I couldn't even consider building a whole new rig today with the prices the way they are.
@AlchemicSoul
3 күн бұрын
Feels like huge swathes of tech over the past 5-6 years have just been lost to lack of optimization anyway.
@CoinRingsUSA
3 күн бұрын
3:54 I always trust your reporting of any tech news because you are very thorough with your research and you always try to provide the unbiased facts rather than opinion, but when you said The Verge agrees with you, it now makes me a bit skeptical since they are the absolute worst and most unreliable "tech" outlet in the world when it comes to getting accurate and unbiased tech news...case in point: Stefan Etienne. (mic drop)
@Kemulnitestryker
3 күн бұрын
As a nonprofessional gamer, I surely do not want or need a GPU which costs more than my current system.
@Kahless00
3 күн бұрын
My friend at AMD told me that news awhile ago. He said they make 20x as much from the same amount of silicon on their AI chips so they would rather use it for that.
@Martial-Mat
4 күн бұрын
Raw greed. But perhaps it's a good thing. Perhaps developers and gamers will realise that chasing more performance is a needless game, and we could have a GPU release cycle more like the Elder Scrolls, forcing devs to optimise for the hardware we have, not what they want us to have. And perhaps this makes it easier for new players to enter the consumer market, and hopefully nvidia and AMD pay a hefty price for abandoning their core base.
@Craider79
3 күн бұрын
To me - the focus on the "mid range" - or as they used to be known "high end" cards from AMD - is 100% the correct decision! a $1000+ card is VERY much in the "enthusiast level" of cards and has NOTHING to do with what we used to call "high end"...- and "enthusiast cards" should NOT be the damn reference! We don't have to go back far to get proof of this. LITERALLY: GTX 1050 = Entry level, GTX 1060 = low end, GTX 1070 = mid range, GTX 1080 = high end, Titan = Enthusiast level/pro level. I HATE that you reviewers are using the RTX 4090 as a reference - as if in the GTX 10XX series it would have been rational having called the Titan card a "high end gaming card" - since it makes about as much sense as comparing a top of the line family car to a Lamborghini! Sure the Lambo is faster - but in day to day use it's literally a waste of performance! The Lambo only shines on a track - or as a "member-extender" - just like IF you have an RTX 4090 you need an expensive PC + a VERY expensive 4k high refresh rate monitor... If you don't then it's literally moronic to buy it! The RTX 4090 should NOT be considered the yardstick! The RX 7800 XT and the RTX 4070 Ti should! Most people are still on 1080p and 1440p monitors - because "cheap" 4K monitors SUCK compared to the 2x high refresh rate 1440p monitors you can get for the same price - or cheaper! The fact that you reviewers keeps referring to the RTX 4090 is what is wrong here! AMD is right! You distort peoples perspective on what a good gaming PC is - where if you didn't a 5700X3D with 32 GB of good RAM with a fast M.2 and an RX 7800 XT would be considered god-tier by 99% of all games! Like literally - try it out Paul - build it and test it on a good high refresh rate 1440p monitor - and see if there is ANYWHERE where you are ACTUALLY giving up stuff over a $3000 PC when gaming... Spoiler - unless you deliberately enable some VERY minor fidelity options in A FEW games - it will be a 1 to 1 experience if you disable the FPS counter! The fact that AMD is trying to be competitive in other markets - and then being negative on them for making a rational decision is kinda dumb Paul... You do know that they make CPUs too right? So now we need to be negative about them making other products - so them making CPUs probably makes their GPUs worse? What? Pretty weird take there Paul! Let's not forget Paul - the ONLY reason our PCs (even a low budget Ryzen 5600 with an RX 6600) are pretty beastly gaming experiences in comparison what the same "level" of PC would have been "pre-AMD resurgence" in both the CPU and GPU market - IS AMD! BOTH Intel and Nvidia were content with minor performance enhances from generation to generation - and AMD upset that - and still does! IN FACT - here is a prediction which I said here many times before: With the way AMD is taking things - in 10 years we won't need a PC as we know it. It will for most people be a fairly small box with a low power consumption but high performance APU in a fully modular configuration. At that point - if the advancements continue as they are doing now - that PC will be able to make photo realistic on the fly renderings at high FPS... and it will be as cheap as a console if not cheaper! Cards like the RTX 4090 are dinosaurs having the last few glory days before the comet strikes - and in that context - AMD is doing the right thing! Making fully adequate and still VERY powerful cards, cheaper, with better power consumption which = size shrink which = even lower prices... etc. etc. etc. Even talking about the "high end $1000+" cards as rational PC parts for a game is NOT the right thing m8. It just isn't! It's a waste of resources!
@drewnewby
4 күн бұрын
No idea where the media is getting a 7800 XT as comparable to the PS 5 Pro, when Sony's data sits it closer to a RX 7700 XT or RX 6800.
@The_Wailing_Doom
2 күн бұрын
I've been buying AMD CPUs and GPUs for two decades. Being "forced" to buy Nvidia GPUs makes me sad.
@ThorDyrden
4 күн бұрын
When comparing the rumored motherboard-prices (9:55) - it seems this compiled list is not considering tax. The "compiler" seems not to have simply converted GBP or EUR to USD - but the USD-prices seem to be based on the European prices including tax, while you are used to seeing $-prices without tax. So still expensive, but not that much more.
@Chris-yc3mm
4 күн бұрын
Amd really need to get into prebuilts if the want to grab market share where a lot of people just buy a "gaming" computer with no thought for the internals
@defeqel6537
4 күн бұрын
I think Strix Halo is their attempt to do exactly that, by targeting laptops first. Being the first gen, it will likely be limited to higher cost devices, but should those do well, next gen will see wider availability
@Neonmirrorblack
4 күн бұрын
1. AMD already announced at the very start of the year that they would no longer be focusing on high end GPUs. Somehow the mainstream either ignored that, didn't believe it, or never saw it. 2. Why would people "rejoice" at this news, assuming AMD would now focus *more* on entry level and mid-ranged GPUs? That's not what this means. It just means they are no longer going to bother with high end GPUs. Their entry to mid-range offerings will be the same as they ever were. 3. Those that think this is "bad' because it means "less competition" haven't been paying attention. AMD never was competition for Nvidia in the high end, and especially not since the 30 series. Nvidia already knows that AMD was irrelevant in the decision making of those who wanted enthusiast or flagship cards, because their cards would be the ones purchased 95% of the time anyway. Nvidia's pricing is not dictated by having AMD in the race. They've already proven how out of touch they are with reality, yet their cards still sell. The 4080 didn't, but that was primarily because the "value proposition" was low due to how much it already cost that people just decided to be upsold on the 4090.
@lucasrem
4 күн бұрын
Nobody needed the AMD GPU computing for Ai ...
@RockstarRomania
4 күн бұрын
@@lucasrem "They've already proven how out of touch they are with reality, yet their cards still sell." Because their customer base nowadays is the likes of AWS, Microsoft, Google, Oracle, IBM, OpenAI, Meta, HP Enterprise and so on. They bring BILLIONS and BILLIONS of dollars into NVIDIA's revenue, and generally that's what the Shareholders WANT, since they're the kind of people who last time they played any video games, it was back when the Atari 2600 was the hot product.
@I.C.Weiner
4 күн бұрын
Your statement on Nvidia being out of touch with reality contradicts itself. If they were out of touch with reality they would no be selling well.
@RockstarRomania
4 күн бұрын
@@I.C.Weiner YES. If they were out of touch, Jensen would've been fired as CEO by the Board.
@glenyoung1809
4 күн бұрын
@@RockstarRomaniaThe main institutional shareholders of NVidia and AMD: Vanguard, Blackrock, State Street. Along with the Big Tech customers you’ve named tells me that gamers desires and opinions are meaningless. Look at the last quarterly earnings for NVidia and AI/DC vs gaming is 9:1. Meta, Google and MS have announced $100+ billion DC projects and are buying AI GPUs as fast as they can make them. What’s kind of pathetic are those gamers whining that their favourite GPU is now $800 when it used to be $600, when a single 80GB NV H100 now goes for $45,000. That same piece of silicon makes them 50x the money as an AI chip rather than a gaming GPU. What’s amazing is that NVidia or AMD are devoting ANY wafer allocations at all to gaming GPUs considering the ROI in the AI market.
@SPyoutube42069
3 күн бұрын
i could win the lottery tomorrow and i'd still refuse to spend four figures on a graphics card
@cszulu2000
4 күн бұрын
Selling high end GPUs that only 1% can afford does not make sense for them.
@LuxCarpe
2 күн бұрын
I can see AMD becoming more a leader in AI consoles with its integrated CPU/GPU chips, like it has with gaming consoles. That's right I said *_AI consoles..._* whaaa ...
@jabronilifestyle
4 күн бұрын
5:17 shame on you Paul, for advocating that Intel get more free money from the people. Shame shame shame. I'm hoping you're just ignorant in this matter.
@shoff29
3 күн бұрын
You don’t want Intel to fab in the US?
@jabronilifestyle
3 күн бұрын
@@shoff29 No. I want Intel to file for bankruptcy and cease as a corporation completely.
@shoff29
3 күн бұрын
@@jabronilifestyle why?
@jabronilifestyle
3 күн бұрын
@@shoff29 1) brand ownership 2) country of loyalty 3) 2 generations of faulty chips 4) knowingly selling oxidized chips and lying about it 5) refusing to recall oxidized Batch#s 6) making people wait 3+ months for RMAs because they ran out of 13900ks 7) quality of product (excluding memory architecture) is worse than ever before and has been falling since the 8000 series. I could type a blog post but ima stop.
@slow-moe3518
3 күн бұрын
If AMD want to compete with NVIDIA on AI they have years of work ahead of them. Everybody is so used to CUDA. It's gonna be hard to switch to something else without a good reason.
@douglasmurphy3266
4 күн бұрын
I think the GPU strategy is primarily a decision to sidestep a crazy inflated high speed GDDR market strained by demand for AI datacenter cards. If they were to use GDDR6X or GDDR7 themselves in any measurable volume, that just bids up an already high demand market further and everyone loses. They have seen this as a long-term issue, long enough to design a whole generation of cards around which would have required they began such plans at least a year ago and expect the strategy to work for a couple a years going forward in that segment.
@abzer0gaming
4 күн бұрын
Intel doesn't need the subsidy.
@systemBuilder
Күн бұрын
Paul's commentary makes me think this : AMD needed to put its high-end GPU designers on the AI Projects. Hence, no high-end GPU designs this time around. Wait till the crash in AI GPUs comes (and it will ...)
@Eik44
4 күн бұрын
Funny that my phone did leave your vids. Im back now
@h.1699
4 күн бұрын
3:41 tbh how much pressure to the 4080 and up segment of nvidia were the radeon 7900s?
@h.1699
4 күн бұрын
i mean, on the top end it needs more than just competitive rasterization performance. while up to mid tier providing better raster performance is somewhat compelling and makes people that aren't fanboys to at least consider a radeon over a nvidia. similar to how people might consider an arc in that market segment now. AMD currently only has the usually better driver support for games going for them in that market segment compared to intel and intel is still constantly improving arc drivers, putting pressure mostly on amd...
@Droz75
4 күн бұрын
You might as well build a PC at this point with console prices like these. They're not going down anytime soon, and that rarely happens.
@JamesonHuddle
3 күн бұрын
That does make a bit more sense and is sad, hopefully they get back to top end soon.
@tadsnyder2756
4 күн бұрын
Unfortunately AMD already smokes NVidia in the mid range. So people still aren’t going to buy it I mean I will but I already took The chance with my 680xt and it was an absolute win but most people will just believe the hype and overpay for NVidia
@shephusted2714
4 күн бұрын
amd should be positioned to start offering apu DC to prosumer and smb mkt at some point - we can hope
@Mr.Genesis
4 күн бұрын
Price to performance at the mid-range matters more than having some Flagship GPU that the competition's Flagship eats if you cant make up cost why make the product? the *VAST* majority of people buy at the $200-500 MSRP range. That is where the market is, not in flagships.
@99Daxc
3 күн бұрын
AMD allocating all high end chips to ai? Never would have guessed.
@Chill_Mode_JD
4 күн бұрын
As always excellent work Paul n Joe 🤘💯
@johnnysheen9615
3 күн бұрын
The way UK-US exchange rates work with tech, is you just change the £ sign for a $ sign. So the Motherboards won`t cost as much as you think, on the State side of the pond. Case and point with the PS5 Pro, £699 or $699. If it was done via real conversion rates, it would be equivelant to $1050 USD.
@NeoRazor
4 күн бұрын
Well that's fine. I got a 7900x already, and the way things are going it'll probably last me the next 3 generations of GPU's without the need for an upgrade.
@SasquatchsCousin33
3 күн бұрын
They likely decided to wait until UDNA to invest in the highend again, so RDNA3/4 will have to hold them over until the full reboot
@jamesrock9446
2 күн бұрын
If AMD develops a card that’s cheap and kicks ass in mid range gaming, im all in. And then save up to buy the elite NVidia card later and flip the said amd card.
@peter2liter
4 күн бұрын
From what I an tell the 5060 and 5070 will have 8gb and 12gb VRAM respectively, while the entire 8000 series will feature 16gb. Navi 48 in the 8800 is going back to a monolithic die with clocks 25% higher than the 7800, sprinkled in with a bunch more of ray tracing units, and 2 AI Tensor cores (presumably to take advantage of FSR 4). If Nvidia decides to increase prices, coupled with keeping VRAM amounts the same amount as previous generations, AMD might get more market share.
@haukionkannel
2 күн бұрын
And nvidia will still outsell AMD and Intel by 84% vs 16 %… It is not easy to be gpu manufacturer these days… I was reallynhoping AMD to get even some market share… but no. People think that NVIDIA prices are ok and buy NVIDIA gpus. Well nothing wrong if you have money to it! Apple is also selling well! So there is some synergy… though apples market share is not close 85%! So people who buy NVIDIA have more money than people who buys Apple products.
@user-ew8lt6yi2i
4 күн бұрын
i feel like gamers are in the segment of "f you, who cares" when it comes to manufacturers.
@TrabberShir
3 күн бұрын
Why would the fans be upset? Now that they know it was AI generated in the USA, they know it is in the public domain and can commission live covers of anything that is really good without paying royalties.
@SamMcDonald83
4 күн бұрын
Good point, people living in tempered glasses houses should not throw stones
@user-yi2mo9km2s
4 күн бұрын
Simplely add double VRam than Nvidia, and Video recording function return like old day ATI.
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