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@TheArtofGuitar
2 жыл бұрын
If you're really in it for the music, just go back to being creative instead of trying to capture the attention of the short-attention span crowd. If 95% of people skip your tune because it has a two-minute intro before it even kicks in, then you still have that 5% of a loyal crowd that love what you're doing. Build on that. It's better to have less fans who are loyal than a huge fanbase who only want a catchy hook that they could get anywhere else. Now if all you want are numbers and money, different story. However, making music for the love of the music is sustainable and will more likely lead to you having success of some kind because you'll keep doing it no matter what. Those who just want the numbers often get frustrated when it's not happening fast enough and quit.
@halluciniinja
2 жыл бұрын
Well put
@treyxaviermusic
2 жыл бұрын
I agree with most of this on principle, but only if you're ACTUALLY being creative and not just putting a self-indulgent 2 minutes of unrelated garbage in front of a good song. A Change of Seasons has a long af intro, but it has the opposite effect of the kind of intro I'm speaking against in the video - it draws you in and hints at the amazing (very long) ride to come. The length of your song or intro is less important than its artistic and narrative value - without that, you won't have that 5% of hardcore loyal fans OR numbers and money. Keep in mind, this video was made mainly as a response to the local band-style songwriting that I see over and over where they just don't have a handle on basic structure stuff yet.
@firdeye2681
2 жыл бұрын
@@treyxaviermusic Well put. Glad we have people around that can help others see the what really matters in songwriting and catching an audiences ear
@charlesrocks
2 жыл бұрын
@The-Art-of-Guitar Like…that’s your opinion man. That’s not really the point Trey is making here. What he’s saying is grab your audience by the neck beard and hump them into submission with THE RIFF or the main theme of the song, and not like bludgeon them with weird riffs until the song blossoms into this thing you think is cool but 95% of everyone around you is already tuned out on. The era of the neckbeard is over. Let’s write music everyone can enjoy for a bit, yeah?
@SwBeyond
2 жыл бұрын
@@treyxaviermusic Yes, but your starting point is sort of that the intro IS "self-indulgent 2 minutes of unrelated garbage" and it really does NOT have to be the case. A good intro sets the mood for the song or it could even be a break from the rest of an album. So as much as I see what you're trying to do here, and I do get that it is from a good place, I think the result of videos like this could very well be generic sounding bands, which in many cases seem to be the case these days: Same 3:45 song structure ("Here's how you write a song- don't bore us, get to the chorus!", same VST ("Here's how to get a killer tone!"), same use of harmonics ("Here's how you use harmonics!") and riffs ("Here's how to write a killer metal riff!"). So I agree with The-Art-of-Guitar here: If folks don't have attention span to listen through a/my intro, then fine. They're probably not gonna be very interested in the rest either.
@alexobregonbauluz3304
2 жыл бұрын
the entire cinematography of this video is excellent and surprisingly well executed. well done trey
@Hebchabsbc
2 жыл бұрын
Jeez this new way of filming and editing your videos is great and definitely hold the attention bro! Great job!
@warpig2786
2 жыл бұрын
reminds me of Veritasium, that channels production is way above youtube, finer almost of what you see on the telly xD
@treyxaviermusic
2 жыл бұрын
Damn I dunno if I'm anywhere near that level but if you even thought of it I'm flattered haha
@toemasmeems
2 жыл бұрын
Trey I just wanna say I did you 7 day challenge and I got so many compliments on how it was the most cohesive song I've written, and while before I tried to avoid typical arrangements...I'm SO glad I faced the challenge because it helped me on so many levels that a comment really can't explain.
@WraithVanglorious
2 жыл бұрын
KFFBJKFHDSJKDFVHJD The fact that he said an intro should never be its own distinct part of a song that never reoccurs.... I fucking love when bands do that (tastefully!) - gives the song depth and shows the band isn't all about 1 riff per song or just repeating shit over and over.
@manny75586
2 жыл бұрын
This really touches on one of the harder skills to develop: listening to what you write dispassionately. Most people either fall in love with everything they write or hate it. Learning to listen from the perspective of the audience you wish to reach. Long introduction parts with little/nothing related to the rest of the song are definitely something to consider depending on the audience you are wishing to reach. A Dream Theater fan is going to give you a lot more time to explore ideas than a Maroon 5 fan is.
@alexobregonbauluz3304
2 жыл бұрын
holy shit give that editor a raise!
@treyxaviermusic
2 жыл бұрын
don't give him any ideas
@ConnorGilks
2 жыл бұрын
What makes you think he pays me at all?
@treyxaviermusic
2 жыл бұрын
get back in your cage! who let you out?
@ConnorGilks
2 жыл бұрын
@@treyxaviermusic Blame the one-handed Nameless Ghoul, he's SURPRISINGLY good at lock picking one-handed.
@amberr_is_dumb
2 жыл бұрын
@@ConnorGilks He helped YOU! Me and the one handed goul had a pact!
@TheLateBoyScout
2 жыл бұрын
Basically, make your song flow like this video. Tease a great theme at the opening, then deliver that theme throughout the song while expanding and branching off it in the most interesting and dynamic way you can. Well done! Also, I'm dropping a new song on my channel on Friday. Stop by and tell me if it sucks or not.
@treyxaviermusic
2 жыл бұрын
You should come by my Friday stream with your song!
@TheLateBoyScout
2 жыл бұрын
@@treyxaviermusic I might do that! 🤘
@markgueren9633
2 жыл бұрын
Holy crap!!! Next level videography!!!! Nicely done!!!
@mayrakoira5397
2 жыл бұрын
Well... For singles and such, to get people excited, you should have this approach. But in albums you could have long intros on some songs and also have those singles in them. I think that both ways work in different occasions.
@jaredhelms4768
2 жыл бұрын
This makes sense for singles and such. I agree. But metal music is largely based on unpredictability.
@idiotburns
2 жыл бұрын
Best intros have nothing to do with the song and are like 3 minutes, the best
@idiotburns
2 жыл бұрын
Think Anthrax!!!!!
@LucasMastropasqua
2 жыл бұрын
This is actually some of the most useful info I’ve ever seen on KZitem. I honestly haven’t seen any videos covering this much if at all either. Good stuff man!
@charlesrocks
2 жыл бұрын
Probably the best regular Trey video to date.
@treyxaviermusic
2 жыл бұрын
yesssss
@corey.flowers
2 жыл бұрын
The important part here is be your own editor/critic. Go back and listen. Make revisions. That's the craft. It's like writing a paper--if you get stuck, get a buddy to peer review!
@ultimomos5918
2 жыл бұрын
and one that won't bullshit you either. Better yet, get complete strangers to listen and don't tell them its your song. That will be a pretty clear indicator of where your music sits with people
@lionsatmidnight
2 жыл бұрын
“It’s not a self indulging riff dump.” Needs to be said again. 😂
@Untoldanimations
2 жыл бұрын
0:00 that hand clapping/snapping noise thing also immediately makes me wanna cease listening
@millennialanimal
2 жыл бұрын
I never knew I needed to see Trey out in the mountains, but I did. Great video Trey, like, really good.
@yungvirticus
2 жыл бұрын
Trey glowing up something fierce in 2Q 2022- awesome video, super helpful info, engaging presentation.
@OCNmeticadpa
2 жыл бұрын
Hey Trey, love your reference to TBDM! I was thinking of exactly this song the other day because I love how it just jumps straight in. I think they do intros so so well generally.
@nintendad1166
Жыл бұрын
2:40 great justification. We were all thinking of those bands.
@saulgoodman1390
2 жыл бұрын
Great points, excellent lighting, well edited, and a cameo by Glenn... what more can you ask for?!
@letronix6243
2 жыл бұрын
straight to 200bpm death rocket start or drum solo intro is what i go with all the time.
@voicehacks
2 жыл бұрын
Bro your edit/filming looks great #goals
@treyxaviermusic
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Mary, been working on it real hard haha
@Psychlist1972
2 жыл бұрын
This is so true. It's also when, when writing books, it's often best to write any intro after all or most of the rest of the book is done.
@davejefferson2695
2 жыл бұрын
Holy shit Idk what was more interesting, the filming of the video or the content itself!! ❤️
@Joey.Darkwoods-Studio
2 жыл бұрын
Without a doubt, one of the top 5 channels to watch... Trey, your channel and the information you provide us is amazing. thank you!
@treyxaviermusic
2 жыл бұрын
How sweet are you! Thanks dawg
@9hk38f
2 жыл бұрын
Me: who for whatever sub conscious reason, always unintentionally write intro's/solo's first. What dark sorcery is this war lock speaking of? What madness is this? Such a simple, yet profound concept. One of those, I want to bash my head on the wall, and say, why didn't I think of that, moments.
@WIMPY86
2 жыл бұрын
But I must have the 3 minute graveyard scenario with rolling fog!
@itrytodothings7320
2 жыл бұрын
there is dozens of songs in metal that started with smooth stuff, classical instrument and then destroy humanity with the bigest distortion ever...
@Sharpie360
2 жыл бұрын
the best ever ANTI-EXAMPLE i can think of is New Found Glory's album Catalyst. Intro Track - in your face right away - high bpm punk beat and guitar riffs - quick changes in parts - punk af to the core All Down Hill From Here - much slower - and longer - more catchy - acoustic bridge - rock style "everything comes together at the end" last chorus EVERY OTHER SONG - my girlfriend left me - im such a wimp, let me cry in peace - this a song for you babe ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ never have i been so disappointed, even knowing what they are now when going into this listen to this all over again. IMO.
@nedim_guitar
Жыл бұрын
This is very helpful! I mean, I often write a part that feels perfect for chorus and sometimes that's the intro too. Aerosmith does that often, speaking of legacy bands. I've even cut intros and made them into interludes because they just didn't fit.
@fourspiralarms
2 жыл бұрын
Great video. This scripting/editing style reminds me of "good eats" one the the best shows out there imo. Well done mate!
@ruddwoodstudios3084
2 жыл бұрын
Spot on! I Love the new approach you have taken on your videos man. Stepping them up!
@grumpyrocker
2 жыл бұрын
Just create the art you want. If you want a long twiddly intro then go for it. In it for the art or writing advertising jingles?
@replicantwanderlust
2 жыл бұрын
Roller Coaster Tycoon! What a game!
@turbine3780
2 жыл бұрын
great video, i always ending up hating the first riff i write for an idea anyway so just not seems like a great idea
@th-lg7no
2 жыл бұрын
your transitions are insane dude
@LordsoftheTrident
2 жыл бұрын
I LOVE how many super creative transitions and locations you used. #JustVideoMakerThings
@BcBaxley
2 жыл бұрын
I enjoyed being informed to a boatsful scenery 😎🤘My intros are most dope 🍻
@lostless
2 жыл бұрын
I so agree with this. I once had a work acquaintance that gave me his bands cd and the first song had this nice and smooth intro riff. I lost the CD so i dont remember what it sounded like, but it got me hooked. Then suddenly, the song goes harder metal, no bid deal, but the riff never came back in anyway or form. I was waiting for it for the whole song and i remember feeling disappointed and empty, even though the rest of the song was good.
@pietandersen6120
2 жыл бұрын
“Think about the last time you listened to a new artist, how long did you give them?” I listened to the 9 minute intro track to Abandons last album The Dead End, which is just the same 4 chords repeated over and over again on a synth with some creepy ambience. Honestly great video though Trey, I know I’m in the minority of music listeners who wants to go on meditative journeys with funeral doom and sludge bands. In my own band we almost always start with a main riff that we then build the song out from, and it makes much more engaging songs that actually feel like they go somewhere.
@filip100000
2 жыл бұрын
Exactly. 'Octavarium' by Dream Theater anyone?
@sqlb3rn
2 жыл бұрын
I listened to Kirk Hammetts entire solo album even though the first two tracks sucked. But then I'm not a child that gets my music in 4 minute TikTok bites
@pauliusmscichauskas558
2 жыл бұрын
I don't see anything wrong with writing the song in chronological order. You go by imagining that you are the listener, with a "Choose your own adventure" kind of an experience. You hear how it starts, and you choose what comes next by what you know would make you, the listener, the most entertained. And then, if it goes somewhere where the intro doesn't fit anymore, you get back there and change it...
@treyxaviermusic
2 жыл бұрын
Like anything else, if you can pull it off, then great! I just haven't seen it done all that often
@Ouvii
Жыл бұрын
The intro is like the prologue of a fantasy novel. Take it out unless the actual beginning of your song doesn't correctly set expectations for the rest of the song. For example: you have clean singing and screaming (that otherwise doesn't normally fit into your subgenre) in your chorus or bridge or something, but that is the first time it happens in your song, so maybe make an intro with screams. Alternatively, maybe you have an energetic metal song, but the first verse is subdued vocals and piano or something, in which case you might intro your song with a heavy riff. Sorta like how an epic fantasy series might start with a ridiculous display of gods and the creation of the world in the prologue because a normal farmboy-the actual start of the story-doesn't exactly set the tone for the cosmic struggle that the series will turn into.
@nooneinparticular9868
2 жыл бұрын
I love your choice to be outside at the beginning. How David Attenborough
@JupiterFerrari
2 жыл бұрын
I learned how to write songs by copying the formats of my favorite bands that were featured in magazines such as, "Guitar for the Practicing Musician". With their gratuitous use of terms like, "Rhythm Fig. 1, Rhythm Fig. 2, Rhythm Fig. 3, etc." I learned how to write musical blocks and tie them together. But I started playing guitar in 1984, when times were different. Great video, Trey! Thanks for posting!! Love your work, brother.
@michaelvarney.
2 жыл бұрын
Mount Diablo… nice.
@hellis488
2 жыл бұрын
Awesome video! Definitely some great advice in this one
@That_many_watts
2 жыл бұрын
Definitely hitting the nail on the head. Love the honesty! Love this content
@OutsiderXI
2 жыл бұрын
With all these beautiful song videos, HSAM interviews, and song structure courses, when songwriting contest 2022?
@treyxaviermusic
2 жыл бұрын
2027
@devin7141
2 жыл бұрын
Nice edits 👍
@boots_33
2 жыл бұрын
Songwriting doesn't have rules. Do whatever the fuck you want.
@SalAvenueNJ
2 жыл бұрын
This has me re-thinking the intro to one of my songs.
@vanessaburns03
2 жыл бұрын
This perfectly articulates why I love and hate 3 Days by Janes Addiction.
@Just-Michael
2 жыл бұрын
I disagree. I almost always write my songs chronologically, even after like 15 years. I write by feel, not by formula. I never open a session in my DAW and think about what I *need* to write. I don't need to write anything. I start with the main idea, and after every section, I think about what naturally comes next or what would be cool to come next. Sometimes that results in a standard structure, sometimes it doesn't. Sometimes the into is a minute long, sometimes there isn't an intro at all. Actually, if I do think about something when writing it's usually the length of the song. Sometimes I want to write a 1 minute song, but sometimes I like writing 10 minute songs. Music is fun and creative. If your goal is to just get a basic song then this is great advice. However, I think it's kind of strange how we talk about being unique and finding your own sound and all that, but when it comes to song structure - paint by numbers. There are a lot of great songs that I love that follow a regular formula, but I do also love really weird songs with no structure. I know this is more focused on new writers, but like have fun damn it. Why sit around writing the basics like boring, predictable modern metalcore, when you could just be vibin'? 😎
@MunchiesMusicMadness
Жыл бұрын
Hey mangreat video I'm into old school punk rock I really have no use for intros but you gave me a few tips that I see as very useful thanks dude
@KFR559
2 жыл бұрын
Bro, how do you only have 200k followers? You’re seriously the best kept secret. Hope you blow up soon homie. Love your content.
@treyxaviermusic
2 жыл бұрын
I appreciate that a great deal! Hopefully the secret gets out hahaha
@TiniMaker
2 жыл бұрын
Making beats taught me a while lot about arranging
@andrewjacksonmusic
2 жыл бұрын
Great video Trey. Loved the new format. Although you have now given yourself a shed load more work for every video from now on 😂 and your editor.
@sayonilmitra
2 жыл бұрын
04:37 That was beautiful, just like metal
@princess-kira
2 жыл бұрын
Depends on the genre. Metal/rock I expect the intro to be at least similar to a stripped down version of the verse, or chorus, whichever comes first. Most of the music I make doesn't follow that logic, but it's a different genre (deathstep). I typically do a 16 bar intro that doesn't get repeated at all through the rest of the track, except on occasion as an outro.
@KevinSoriano
2 жыл бұрын
that... makes a lot of sense.
@TheMetalHeathen
2 жыл бұрын
Great big production for Glenn to shout out again, "get to the point"! Which finally came in after 4+ minutes of your rambling. Was this your subliminal point?
@JayJaymusic
2 жыл бұрын
This is definitely the most entertaining tip video that I've ever watched! Haha
@nachshonrorick
2 жыл бұрын
and then we wouldn't have Dark Side of the Moon...
@joathescientist
2 жыл бұрын
Teaching how to keep the audience's attention while at the same time using all sort of filmmaking tricks to keep the audience's attention. I've been lectured!! Thanks Tray!
@markuselipka
2 жыл бұрын
if i were to make my compositions dependent on the attention span of some listeners who have never learned to listen to music at all, i could stop producing music immediately. whether else a 2min intro is considered boring or not is either a question of personal taste or/and the composer's 'craftsmanship'. however - i use to produce music for interested people, not for people for whom music is a fleeting fashion item. art or business? business nullifies art in general. or have i misunderstood something? cheeeerz!
@TimSamoff
2 жыл бұрын
Super Mario Bros World 1-1 was one of the last levels that Shirgero Miamoto and his team designed.
@elblopex
2 жыл бұрын
I tend to go to the middle of the song when listening a new artist to see if I dig the style. I do this for 3 or 4 different songs in 2 or 3 different albums and then stick or leave
@resington
2 жыл бұрын
This is a great point!
@900dr34u
2 жыл бұрын
Dude, you're so on it! Very very good info!
@dylansouter
Жыл бұрын
this is filmed so well bro
@mercilessforever
Жыл бұрын
Even the tone change is a way to curate an intro if ur having a difficult time writing lol back the presence off and record, bring the presence up back to where it goes for the rest and bam u just made an intro. Lol
@dexterdeth
7 ай бұрын
I am on a Trey trip tonight, and when I'm tripping, I never experience time linearly.
@CarlosKTCosta
2 жыл бұрын
I LOVE to use a mix of 2 and 3, a very very small section of the main riff then out of nowhere hit them with the modified chorus. I view it like: This is our starting point, we will get to that thing but there is a journey to get there.
@KitsimiFox
2 жыл бұрын
I genuinely think that "Follow the Signs" by Born of Osiris is one of the best examples of avoiding this. Literally starts off with what is basically a thesis statement of what's to come later in the song (you could almost call it the chorus?), and then switches to another BPM for a bit before coming back to what was advertised in the first 30 seconds. Banger songwriting - shows you the roller coaster first then lets you ride it.
@wmxx2000
2 жыл бұрын
Pretty solid tips.
@ryanwilson5936
2 жыл бұрын
I think a big problem today, regardless of genre, is that people forget what makes a good song good: the story it tells. Music can tell a story without lyrics and so many people use music as a voice but not very many of them teach their instrument how to speak.
@jeanettekorzenko4958
2 жыл бұрын
I listen through every song.
@MickH60
2 жыл бұрын
@@tophertaylor69 Actually one in six years !!!!
@jeanettekorzenko4958
2 жыл бұрын
@@MickH60silly boy
@treyxaviermusic
2 жыл бұрын
Every song on the planet? You really do have a lot of time on your hands hahaha
@jeanettekorzenko4958
2 жыл бұрын
@@treyxaviermusic Ok since you made the above remark : I did not say "on the Planet." However, once I start a song ( provided I haven't heard it ) I do listen to the full work. There are many songs that have little "Easter eggs" in them that make me want to listen to it more than once. Some songs I initially didn't like bc I wasn't too keen on the band ...but at a later date something changed where I didn't hear anything about them. So I make the decision to look them up..& later on down the road I decide wow they really were good. It's the little Easter eggs that make me come back every single time.
@MickH60
2 жыл бұрын
@@jeanettekorzenko4958 hehe.... Silly OLD boy...!
@justinc246
2 жыл бұрын
This editing and video composition gives me Bill Nye the Science Guy vibes
@johnbeard7252
2 жыл бұрын
4:21 Another good example is "Cycles of Suffering" by Suffocation. It's the first song on the Pinnacle of Bedlam album and it just fucking rips your face off right in the beggining. Completely caught me off guard when I listened to this album for the first time.
@rubenlodewijk5023
Жыл бұрын
I like to build up tention towards the chorus. So strings are playing the melody slower and build up layers. When the first chorus hits, the strings go double time.
@shredded_lettuce
2 жыл бұрын
I am in a grindcore band where in most of our songs there is little to no repetition. So most of this advice doesn't feel like it applies to me...then again most of our songs are like a minute long so maybe attention spans aren't really something we have to worry about haha.
@ryanwilson5936
2 жыл бұрын
I tried to comprehend what a 1 minute long grindcore song with no repetition would sound like and I concluded that it would highly resemble a dial-up tone with shitty drumming while someone pukes into the microphone.
@shredded_lettuce
2 жыл бұрын
@@ryanwilson5936 For examples of what I'm talking about, I'd recommend checking out the songs: "Principle Of Puppet Warfare" by Wormrot "Taibas" by Gridlink "Passi Falsi" by Cripple Bastards "Voyeur" by Bandit By "no repetition" I mean that most of the time when a riff is done, you're not ever hearing it again for the rest of the song. Just flows from part to part in a chaotic succession. But to be fair, the vocalist of Bandit did literally intentionally puke during their set when they opened for Pig Destroyer a few years back lmao.
@MetalRobotReviews
2 жыл бұрын
Did you take cues from Film Booth when making this video? If so, keep it up! It was awesome!
@treyxaviermusic
2 жыл бұрын
oh shit you noticed hahahaha, I was waiting to see if anyone would. Dude's got GREAT tips, love his style and happy to shamelessly swag jack him. Seems to be working too, so far the feedback is mostly positive
@MetalRobotReviews
2 жыл бұрын
@@treyxaviermusic Positive for good reason haha, very engaging and well paced. Definitely a great style to swag jack. Keep up the good work!
@TrueKivan
2 жыл бұрын
In current Spotify era I listen to everything the alghoritm reccomends me, I would skip if the song is showing some annoying elements like auto tune or pop, which happens when there is accidentl artist name overlap. If I like the song enough I will like it and play it as part of my daily work routine, as I mostly play from my liked songs list. It will also cue the alghoritm to reccomend me more stuff like this. If I like it a lot I will listen to full album, if I love it even more I will listen to the entire catalog and then start checking similar bands. This is if I can get away with listening at work without people crying that I'm not blasting top 40 charts, which is sadly the only thing many people can process so I can't do it my way always.
@larasownful
2 жыл бұрын
Great video, one of your best IMO
@treyxaviermusic
2 жыл бұрын
too bad the rest are shit hahaha
@jokejoke448
2 жыл бұрын
I opened one of my songs with an intro riff, but it never felt right to have it return, so I used the same rhythm with different notes, and chose to have other sections repeat and use rhythmic repetition and building on those parts as well. Plus, I got a killer chorus that comes back several times too, so it might be a bit more progressive than a typical metalcore song, but I'm hoping it still keeps some familiarity, whilst knocking you on your ass.
@arjunjsatheesh8899
2 жыл бұрын
I love riff salads 🤘
@drsaufproblem
Жыл бұрын
Trey. What the fuck. Why is this so good?
@Javier-qk7ms
2 жыл бұрын
I think the most successful bands know how to deal with a healthy mix of "catchy" and "sophisticated" songs in an album, and the most successful ones can do "catchy and sophisticated" songs.
@The.Adam.D
2 жыл бұрын
I feel like it’s 3:45 am and I just rolled over the remote and woke up out of weed nap looking for leftover Taco Bell
@justsomedude5727
2 жыл бұрын
Idk this advice seems extremely limiting, false intros, buildups, clean intros can be extremely rewarding and add to the song, you shouldnt limit your songwriting because people have too short attention spans
@cryptogumbyckb1183
2 жыл бұрын
Have you done a video incorporating pedal effects in combination with a unit like a Line6 HD 500X Using whatever cable methods
@ashamael
2 жыл бұрын
Or: write what you want to hear & fuck worrying about getting attention. I mean, this is great advice if you're trying to get noticed or whatever, but it also leads to the same thing I hear constant complaints about: "all modern metal sounds the same." It's kind of like new In Flames vs old In Flames: This (and the riff hoarder video) is how to write new In Flames. I don't like new In Flames. I like hearing 9 riffs in a song. I also am realistic and know that I'll never have thousands of people across the globe clamoring to hear my music, so it's whatever. I just watched & commented to support the Algo, because I do like you & your channel even if I disagree with you artistically about something. Like I said, it IS good advice, if that's your goal.
@treyxaviermusic
2 жыл бұрын
What I didn’t get to say in this video was that long songs and long intros can be great - A Change of Seasons is a great example. But the intro supports the composition as a whole and the whole 23 minute song is a development of the same couple ideas. As always, everyone should write what they want to hear, like you said. But it’s not so much about getting attention exactly - more about making a cohesive song, even if it’s 9 riffs - they’re not 9 random riffs that are the only 9 riffs you’ve happened to write, it’s 9 riffs that move the song along.
@ashamael
2 жыл бұрын
@@treyxaviermusic complete and total agreement here, and that's an absolute gem of an example.
@matthewaaron8246
2 жыл бұрын
I usually write the chorus/hook first
@CalvinHodge
2 жыл бұрын
this played like a youtube ad
@buildingskyscrapers
2 жыл бұрын
Really great video. Meaningful content, very well explained and executed, editing is on point. Also, Finn McKenty would be proud. Dude hates intros.
@plaguesofwrath
2 жыл бұрын
Well, to answer your first question, when I’m listening to a new band, I don’t give it very much time at all before I decide if I’m going to listen to the whole song. I’ve skipped songs within the first 10 seconds. But, I’m extremely picky for someone with such simple taste. If I hear anything that sounds remotely like “modern metal” I skip it immediately. I find that stuff boring. It lacks the energy and aggression of mid to late 80s first wave black and death metal. So basically if I don’t hear some Sarcofago barbarity or Celtic Frost groove, I’m out. As for the rest of the video, I actually agree with everything you said. I think there’s a lot of good advice here.
@scottcarpenter701
2 жыл бұрын
great high kick. it's how you take that truth now.
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