When Russell met someone with wilder hair than him
@BassGoThump
4 жыл бұрын
Yeah it’s hard to take someone serious when they look like a clown 🤡
@meghan42
4 жыл бұрын
@@BassGoThump It's just hair. The subject is legal and safe abortion.
@louisgardner5580
4 жыл бұрын
@@BassGoThump He didn't find it very difficult to take her seriously, you should do the same !
@Prometheushighaf
4 жыл бұрын
@abso wep yeah sure express yourself, but I'm sure he's referring to her literally having a clowns hair style not her character is a clown. Stop being so sensitive and open your eyes
@ArielleVicMaxim
4 жыл бұрын
abso wep yeah and the same time I wonder if it has anything to do with past life’s, karma, or just that imbalance off what you pointed out the yin yang ☯️ but why this imbalance ? I always wonder too if it has anything to do with vaccines 💉 creating a hormonal imbalance who knows ?
@MarvinHumesIsMyLYF
4 жыл бұрын
I got pregnant unplanned in final year of university. I found it (and still find it) odd that between my options of abortion or single motherhood, everyone sided with abortion, a ‘no brainer’. I kept my baby and am now a single (graduate) mother to a 7 month old. I have no problem with people getting abortions but what concerns me is that in my experience it really was just a medical procedure. I went to the clinic and was not asked once if I was sure on my decision, I had to tell the midwife I wasn’t and ask for support. No counselling, no conversation of both eventualities. It was like I was getting treatment for tonsillitis.
@stoyanb.1668
4 жыл бұрын
Because its become so common that women use abortion as a contraceptive. Kind of devalues life.
@MarvinHumesIsMyLYF
4 жыл бұрын
Stoyan B. Not just women. Men (including my baby’s dad) too. Contraception is a dual responsibility.
@_serenity3298
4 жыл бұрын
Because they wanted you to feed into the abortion market. Aborted fetus remains have a currency of their own being sold on the black market, being used into the legal vaccines used on kids and adults, and also rumored to be used in fast food restaurants' meat (I say rumored because I'm still not sure on that one). I'm glad you continued on with your pregnancy and didn't let anyone discourage you.
@syum.
4 жыл бұрын
_Serenity are you crazy? What weird things to believe. I’m sorry for you that you move in this world believing such stupid shit
@raquellois9443
4 жыл бұрын
@@MarvinHumesIsMyLYF This needs to be said more. I am pro choice but I dont like how abortion is talked about as it is "nothing" and how men encourage you to get one because they just do not understand how terrible it is to get one. In the sense that they should consider if you want to keep it. (my body my choice applies for that and people forget). Like, have some empathy. I wish you well to you and your kid. :)
@dulcelibertad
4 жыл бұрын
As a woman IM AWARE THIS IS MY BODY but IM ALSO AWARE THAT THERE IS A BODY GROWING INSIDE ME. Yes sex ed is needed and yes, contraceptives are needed. Im a pro life and I dont believe forcing others to not abort is the option. Education is the answer
@JernauMoratGurgeh
4 жыл бұрын
@@VioletLife8 you have terrible reading comprehension
@rosarabarbra6691
4 жыл бұрын
@Wd.Violet- Wire. c o m sex ED= sex education, learning about your body and what’s going on. 🤷♀️
@lisaproff8077
4 жыл бұрын
Well said. Education is the key to everything. Thats why they are trying to destroy it here in the statea.
@rosarabarbra6691
4 жыл бұрын
True, I think abortion should be an option, where I live they had a problem with a lot of young girls getting abortions and they fixed that with getting better sex Ed. Now less people gets abortions... it was really simple and not taking peoples rights away either
@sadiemakesmesmile
4 жыл бұрын
If you don't believe in forcing others not to abort ... then you're pro choice. Pro-life politically is about enacting policies that make abortion illegal. Pro-choice doesn't mean you want to kill babies.. its not anti-life. Pro-choice people have been going on about sex ed for a long time.
@HoneyO
4 жыл бұрын
more education on contraception for women and men, teenage to adult. its such a serious thing.
@happyd9733
4 жыл бұрын
It took her getting pregnant three times to work out how to get him to wrap it. Some people are no hopers
@antoinettelopes
4 жыл бұрын
Taking this woman as an example, it'd be amazing if she didn't have that education coming from Massachusetts at her age. I'm from that state and older than her and we got sex education from 8th grade which is 12 or 13 years old. And I know that since the 80s contraception, especially condoms because of the AIDS crisis, were available for free at health clinics, etc. Sometimes the education is there and people still end up having multiple abortions.
@monicalillis3294
4 жыл бұрын
There is a wealth of info on contraception.It is freely given out (contraception) at Uni Campuses for example.Just go to a Dr's surgery/nurse/Health clinics for free info.We also have the internet,a mine of information.In this day and age,come on,ignorance is no excuse.Sadly abortion clinics exist to make money.It is not in their interest to offer alternatives,as they make hundreds of dollars/pounds from each abortion.With 200,000 abortions in the UK a year,and over 1.5 million a year in America,(all in private clinics in the U.S) that is a huge amount of money,sadly.Tragic.
@brownrabbit61
4 жыл бұрын
@@happyd9733 Personly I have never had sex without contraception. Contraception can go wrong though.
@twildabuckingham
4 жыл бұрын
How about: dont have sex. You create life. If you dont want to create life, dont have sex. Similar to "if you dont want to go to jail for a crime, do not commit the crime"
@Threnodist1
4 жыл бұрын
Either the unborn child is a human life or it's not. That the crux of the issue. If it is a human life, it doesn't matter how much you agonized or struggled with the decision. If you agonize and struggle about killing someone, you still killed someone, though I suppose it's better than doing it callously and coldly. The arguments about a woman controlling her body are just a distraction. Human life or not? That's the whole thing. And you better have a really good reason and proof to say it isn't a human life, because the consequences are dire if you are wrong.
@mrshinitzel
4 жыл бұрын
Scoopy TheClown 😳 abort all humans?
@Yupperino123
4 жыл бұрын
Perfectly said
@grrinc
4 жыл бұрын
Agreed
@mebeingaginger
4 жыл бұрын
No living human being has the right to live of someone else's body, even if that kills them. The government can't make people donate blood (or organs) if there is a shortage, even if that kills those in need. Again no living human is entitled to someone else's body, even if that kills them. Should that law change? Should the government's power over people's bodies be extended to those circumstances? Other considerations: No form of contraception is 100% safe, even with perfect use. Demanding practicing abstinence is also not an option. The aids epidemic has taught us that.
@demJem09
4 жыл бұрын
Arguments about controlling her body are just a distraction? It's called body autonomy, and mine doesnt go out the window to sacrifice another without my permission.
@lifeisstrangeinonceuponati8841
3 жыл бұрын
I feel like some people are just assuming the only reason people get abortions is because they chose to not use contraception but there are so many reasons why women have abortions. Such as rape, getting raped by a family member, and therefore not wanting an incest baby, broken condom, pill didn’t work, baby is threatening mothers life, pressured into sex, too young to have kids.
@daniellewhite6451
4 жыл бұрын
3 abortions? I can understand 1 .. a mistake but 3???? No...
@humility1st
4 жыл бұрын
If she didn't have a pregnancy test there was no abortion. This is applying the c-19 whitehouse testing leadership. By George it works!
@lyannawinter405
4 жыл бұрын
I was an little taken aback, too, but we do not know what happened, so let's not judge.
@marcyren
4 жыл бұрын
Well, you don't shy away from the tough subjects. I do love how Amanda is very measured and thoughtful and considers the question before answering. So rare.
@NoobNoobNews
4 жыл бұрын
Wish she was measured and thoughtful before getting three abortions in a row.
@NoobNoobNews
4 жыл бұрын
@@1_viewer Wish she was measured and thoughtful about the men she sleeps with, seeing as none of them were very bright.
@clairewheeler2937
4 жыл бұрын
So when does consciousness enter then? I always had the veiw of pro choice until I I researched how horrific the industry is. Those little bodies sometimes get born whole with hearts still beating. The bodies are dissected and used for research purposes and to create vaccines. Its absolutely horrific. Abortion should not be taken lightly. To have one abortion must be bad enough, but to continue having them is a bit much, in my personal opinion. On both your own mind and body and in terms of eliminating little lives. In the later term abortions these babies still in the sack respond to being prodded, so they do feel pain and sensation.
@emilycalderwood2573
4 жыл бұрын
Claire Wheeler hey, this is pro life rhetoric. Late term abortions are extremely rare (only in life or death scenarios). And the vast vast majority of abortions are carried out in the first 12 weeks. They have no way of feeling pain and in a lot of cases are a ball of under developed cells.
@onepartyroule
4 жыл бұрын
A heartbeat is not an indicator of brain development and capacity for consciousness. Scientists have created beating hearts in labs: www.smithsonianmag.com/innovation/how-tiny-beating-human-heart-was-created-lab-180958375/ But you dont get emotional about that.
@GoshenTrailsRanch
4 жыл бұрын
The Bible says life begins with the first breath. Adam was just a lump of clay until he breathed. That is when the Ruach (the divine breath/spirit enters the body). But that’s just the Bible. Other traditions have different beliefs. If you were going to go with science, it would probably be years later. But science doesn’t understand consciousness as of yet.
@madgoat2692
4 жыл бұрын
@@onepartyroule but how do you know the baby is not conscience maybe it can barely think of thought but still wasted potential
@Arginne
4 жыл бұрын
Emily Calderwood I would hardly call 20,000 third trimester abortions a year in the US “rare”. No one even uses the clump of cells argument anymore because its not scientifically accurate. If you really want to get specific you are also a “clump of cells”. But from the first day your baby already has its own dna and its hair color, eye color, height and many personality traits have already been determined. And yes babies feel pain even in the first trimester when their nerve endings and spine are already starting to develop.
@nushie5635
4 жыл бұрын
My issue is, people believe in pro-life, and will torment those who have abortions. But, no one seems to care about the babies being born in poverty..babies starving not getting proper health care..throwing them in cages because their parents hoped the border..maybe people should focus on the babies that have been born and are suffering instead of fetus that if not born just go back to spirit, heaven..🙏🏼
@vasiliysolodovnikov618
4 жыл бұрын
I hear you but I think we can do both at the same time
@nushie5635
4 жыл бұрын
Vasiliy Solodovnikov maybe, I personally could not abort my fetus, but I’m in a happy marriage and for us it would be a blessing..I’m in no place to judge others for what they do with their bodies. In the end if you abort the fetus my belief is that is what was meant for that soul...
@Stevie-steel
4 жыл бұрын
Hi. Thats a thoughful and interesting point. had an abortion at 15. (At two weeks gestation) Now i foster/adopt children (3) whose patents are not able to care for them properly. As i would not have been able to had we survived birth (i did not have supportive family) i was allergic to the pill and it didnt work for me. I also had 5 miscarriages which made me believe i was being punished most of my life has been heartbreak over that one abortion. But i still believe we both would have had really shitty lives i wasnt in any position to be a mother and the male? The 19year old man wjo was the father .. he just fucked off it was my problem.. even though he was the one who pressured me into sex so. Lets not blame the women. Lets make men accountable for getting women pregnant too. It takes two people and the men never have to be responsible in anyway even though imb most cases they are a lot older.
@RockWaterJonFrench
4 жыл бұрын
Sadhguru on Twitter: "Belief leads people to accept the most ridiculous things as the absolute truth.Nov 6, 2019
@tomlock5484
4 жыл бұрын
I wonder if Sadhguru really believes that?
@Icureditwithmybrain
4 жыл бұрын
@@tomlock5484 Its my belief that you're disingenuous.
@meghan42
4 жыл бұрын
And? What does that mean in the context of the subject of abortion? Can you expand on Sadhguru's quote?
@tomlock5484
4 жыл бұрын
@@Icureditwithmybrain Okay. What has drawn you to that conclusion? Is it simply that you disagree with me or is it based on anything with more substance?
@jakecostanza802
4 жыл бұрын
Well, that works for so many things that we don’t even have time to count them.
@andreagiroux3796
4 жыл бұрын
She lost me when she said she had 3 abortions....that was hard to wrap my head around.
@payamsadri
2 жыл бұрын
@M Z mistakes are our best teachers, but don’t make the same mistake twice.
@lyomon9981
2 жыл бұрын
WHO CARES WHAT Y THINK PEOPLE LIKE YOU DONT CARE THAT THE MAJORITY DONT WANTS TO BAN ABORTIONS
@NightLetterLondon
4 жыл бұрын
how seriously she says how none of the women she knows took having an abortion lightly.. she's had 3. i wouldn't take her seriously at all.
@theparkerfamily7153
4 жыл бұрын
Yeah you would think she would stop letting dudes blow loads in her. They are called condoms, they work. When me anx my wife didnt want to have kids, i wore a rubber. its worked for seven years after having my first kid. The abortion argument is bullshit, basically they are saying, it feels better when i fuck without a rubber. Its an issue of responsibility, and within the current mask context, its funny that this similarity isnt brought up.
@soulsage1984
4 жыл бұрын
There should of been some talk about the guilt one has when they abort a baby. Even for people that deny it, deep down it affects them greatly. Both physically, mentally and spiritually. It's why many of those women who had abortions are deeply depressed and on the verge of suicide from the guilt. Just as veterans feel after war, knowing they killed innocent people or seen their mates die in war. It's this sort of PTSD that haunts them for the rest of their lives, whether they like to admit it or not.
@vinny5638
4 жыл бұрын
I think that's where most of the vitriol and mental gymnastics come to play, instead of integrating the trauma they're going through related to the death of their child they construct logical frameworks about how it "wasn't really a life" and become almost feral at any discussion of the opposite... I just want civilized discussion. If you argue conception isn't the beginning of life, you better have some solid scientific arguments to back that up.
@twildabuckingham
4 жыл бұрын
Yeah it's such an easy thing to avoid...this "guilt". How about: dont have sex because you will create life. She grew up in MA...she knew what sex made
@twildabuckingham
4 жыл бұрын
Glad. Small price to pay, rather than with your own life...due to your own decisions and irresponsibility
@MsBoudicea
4 жыл бұрын
Soul Sage not true. Recent evidence based study in the UK showed that 95% of women do not regret having an abortion. The whole ‘regret’ line is just another narrative to shame women. And is exactly why more women need to talk about their abortions
@vinny5638
4 жыл бұрын
@@MsBoudicea Thats interesting, any sources for this study? Maybe you're right. I'd have imagined the regret came from the whole death of a child thing and not some "lets get together and shame women" conspiracy but maybe you're right.
@edshaba4893
2 жыл бұрын
It’s murder no matter how you word it
@kaitiezhee
4 жыл бұрын
I appreciate Russel making safe space to openly discuss this topic 🤍🕊 thank you
@soulsearchermusicsavedmyli3860
4 жыл бұрын
Yes I appreciate that Russell is expanding the issues he is talking about with people Iam very interested in learning about struggles and topic issues that are taboo
@asarta703
4 жыл бұрын
It's hardly that taboo at the moment, most people are on the side of pro-choice nowadays. Its an easy convo for him to have when he agrees fully with her stance
@Bllueqq
4 жыл бұрын
@@asarta703 aborrion is simple " if you can't afford it, abort it"
@InetteL
4 жыл бұрын
I was a full blown drug addict and alcoholic when I had my abortion. Absolutely no regrets! Best decision to not bring an innocent child into my reckless and dangerous life.
@twildabuckingham
4 жыл бұрын
Any better ideas come to mind?
@meghanmoran1770
4 жыл бұрын
No one should give a flying "F" if someone has an abortion or not. It is no one's business what someone decides to do. Those of you throwing stones all live in glass houses. Every woman should have the right to choose and shame on anyone who feels other wise.
@odn4502
4 жыл бұрын
amen
@viktorija4485
4 жыл бұрын
Russell is talking with her with empathy and respect of her view. My friend told me she done it, she was too young for be a mother and how much guilt she carries a long time...I told her I undestand and that I cannot blame her.
@goofygrandlouis6296
4 жыл бұрын
Maybe if she is feeling guilt, it might be her own brain telling her : you've done bad. No ? Sugar coating things can go so far. You can't run from yourself when you look in the mirror. I can understand external factors for the decision, but let's not pretend its a positive thing here.
@viktorija4485
4 жыл бұрын
Well I cannot speak for her, I want to say that I tryed to listen to her with empathy. I dont think that anyone says here that abortion is great and good, its about bad circumstances, not about bad person. Besides Im not judging kind of person, trying to tell people that Im always right. Shod I tell her: Yea, you've done really bad thing, I dont want to see you any more!
@goofygrandlouis6296
4 жыл бұрын
It's more the modern-day attitude that feminism has towards abortion, that pisses me off. I can totally understand that there are cases where women have to do it. But it should be grave. Very grave. But some people now joke about it, or talk about it while never mentioning the baby's side of the story. Honestly that female guest talks too coldly about this subject, did NOT like that attitude.
@goofygrandlouis6296
4 жыл бұрын
@Truncated Icosahedron Fair point. I've never heard one on mainstream media. Always braindead hollywood actresses talking about how its "liberating" to abort innocent creatures. Yeah what a powerful woman you are, you crushed the skull of a miniature defenseless being. So courageous of you.
@viktorija4485
4 жыл бұрын
I dont agree.Happy to live in Europe where no one takes right to decide about instead of me.
@maraudershields283
4 жыл бұрын
As a dude, i really can’t say much on the subject. However, I agree with Russel in the sense that we are each entitled to our own belief systems, and free to follow our own practices (that fall within the law, obviously), and shouldn’t expect to have others push their beliefs onto ourselves. If a women chooses to have an abortion, then that is their choice. If you believe that abortion is wrong, that’s fine, don’t get one.
@bearman631
4 жыл бұрын
Anthony harper..as a dude you should speak up and you have a moral obligation to speak up. A women's right to killing another human being is not a choice. Does they baby have a choice?
@ktm125pete
4 жыл бұрын
So the same applies toward a one year old child? No, so unfortunately your just trying to make morality up. The law is not morality
@bearman631
4 жыл бұрын
@@ktm125pete not sure who you are responding to.
@ktm125pete
4 жыл бұрын
@@bearman631 Anthony, sorry
@scottcharney1091
3 жыл бұрын
@@ktm125pete *you're
@wakeg40
2 жыл бұрын
Big difference in “poverty and death penalty” and abortion, in that abortion is the act of killing of innocence which is not present in the others. There is a huge difference.
@timruth8767
4 жыл бұрын
'What must it be like in there, to make you say that to me and believe it" i have lived by this point of consciousness for years. Hurt people Hurt people,.....true compassion exists when i wonder about you and how you are, without judgement, even when you are attacking me.
@faithhope4921
4 жыл бұрын
(Part 5 of 7) The most prominent circumstance used to support an argument for abortion is compassion shown for the victims of rape or incest. My heart breaks for them in their pain. I would never want them to suffer. However, ending the life of the new human being within them is not an act of compassion. The unborn child should not be held accountable for the father's crime. There are Christian facilities that help, house and support expectant mothers who do not want to have abortions (e.g. LorisHouse(dot)org and SOHCares(dot)org).
@aMuenchGrinch
4 жыл бұрын
I could push on my stomach at 12 weeks pregnant & feel the resistance of my baby against my hand. At 15 weeks she kicked the PA's hand as he tried to get a good heartbeat with the monitor. Because of my beliefs I believe life begins at conception. I've had 2 miscarriages that took a piece of my heart each time. The 8 hour window of opportunity of even achieving conception is so delicate... To me it just shows you how amazing it is to even conceive in the first place. I know many women that haven't been able to conceive, or lost a baby to health reasons. The heartache of not having a wanted baby is horrible too! I have a completely different outlook on this, but I don't hate her, I won't judge her, & I would even be her friend. I believe the key to preventing this is education & using protection. I've had several friends & family members have unplanned pregnancies. They ended up keeping their babies or giving them up for adoption, & all has turned out well. I believe "a life is a life, no matter how small". If we weren't meant to exist, we wouldn't have been created in the first place.
@AvalonMisty
4 жыл бұрын
what needs to be added to the conversation is how sex happened....willingly? pressured? rape? incest? that brings in a whole other dimension Riane Eisler's "Sacred Pleasure" is an excellent read
@paulsmith8510
2 жыл бұрын
I hate abortion. I worked at planned parenthood. But I still love Amanda.
@jeep1070
4 жыл бұрын
You can totally tell she has it all together and knows exactly who she is.
@MizzzzMonica
4 жыл бұрын
Loved to see the words painted in front of a planned parenthood saying Baby Lives Matter. No one has the right to kill another life. Our lives start at conception - that’s not a belief - it’s a fact. It’s not about comparing who’s life is more important over another - it’s simply, you cannot take another’s life.
@LilySaintSin
4 жыл бұрын
Nope! A woman has the right to abort for whatever reason. It's none of anyone else's business.
@blakeengle4153
4 жыл бұрын
If you don’t want a baby don’t have sex, never understood why abortion was legal unless the baby jeopardizes the mothers health.
@anaromello
2 жыл бұрын
No excuse for three abortions in a society where education and contraception are freely available. That is a grotesque attitude to life.
@erin147
4 жыл бұрын
I simply think that it's no one's business but the woman's. If their choice bothers you, it's a reflection of your own shit.
@medinajarrett5105
2 жыл бұрын
I have children of my own, who I gave birth to, that I love unconditionally. When I first found out I was pregnant, I took a good couple of weeks to decide whether I could go through with the pregnancy. I never liked kids, never wanted to hold babies, never even played with dolls. Even my friends were all concerned with how I would manage a child. Luckily, once my first was born, it was as if I knew what I had been put on the planet for. The most amazing, wonderful thing that ever happened to me but, if I had decided not to go through with it, knowing the technology exists to abort safely, I would have taken that step if I didn't feel the time was right in any way. My heart goes out to women that don't have that choice, for any particular reason. I am certain that if men could become pregnant through religion, rape, or by mistake, had a genetic desease that they didn't want to pass on, or found the fetus they were carrying had disastrous deformities, that would lead a child to be totally unable to enjoy any quality of life at all, or for whatever reasons I have not included, this wouldn't even be a question! The worst and one of the most mentally dehibilitating things is to be born unwanted, unloved, uncared for, abused physically, mentally, even sexually, or simply abandoned. I think that is a far greater evil than ending an unconscious life. I wonder how many abhortionists think twice before squashing a wasp, spraying their flowers with bug killer, using slug pellets, even going hunting with dogs, or guns? Those animals are all conscious living breathing things, whether human or not, they had independent life! Btw, I still don't like other people's kids! 😂
@ChildrensRightsFirst947
2 жыл бұрын
If men had to be pregnant AND be the main ones doing the dirty work of child care, abortion would absolutely be legal everywhere. And a lot less men would EVER want kids.
@oisin25
3 жыл бұрын
As a pro life person, I disagree with the death penalty or extreme poverty etc. The thing is I believe it starts in conception (not religious) but I'm not sure, like almost everyone else. However if it doesnt why are people charged if the punched a pregnant woman and she then loses it for anything more than assault. They get charged with manslaughter, normally. This is "my body line" doesnt work with me. Get a tattoo. Get a piercing. Sterilise yourself. Change your body how you see fit. But I dont agree with affecting the body of someone inside your body. My exceptions are for health reasons and rape etc (but even rape would probably be a health issue, mentally).
@sloth6480
2 жыл бұрын
I've learned there is no point having discourse with someone who states what their views are. Even if there are valid points arguing against it we will always find a reason why they're wrong.
@drbvo9578
4 жыл бұрын
I am pro life. Not bc of religious belief at all. It is not her body, it is the baby's body. Why do we call it a 'baby' when the child is wanted ("I saw my baby's hartbeat on the ultrasound!") but then call it a 'lump of cells' when they want to abort it. Also IMO we went overboard: in NYC more babies are aborted (32,000) than born (25,000) vast majority in minority communities. Maybe we should take a close look what is going wrong there, knowing there Is a CVS on every corner?! Also I dislike the question: "but what if it was rape?". That is the case in less than 1% of the pregnancies. And the fact that the Democrats want to extend abortion until birth is just plain criminal.
@jafooli
3 жыл бұрын
It's not YOUR body though is it? Does your body and 2 heads and 2 hearts? Logically speaking, it's another human body.
@julesmbc
4 жыл бұрын
Always appreciate your interviews, and how well worded your questions/thoughts are, Russell! I have not had an abortion, but am pro choice. Thank you, for explaining your point of view. Very well said. Much Love ♡
@saltyingabingabear
2 жыл бұрын
These days, Amanda is looking A LOT like (the younger) Val Kilmer. Now you can't stop seeing it.
@soulsearchermusicsavedmyli3860
4 жыл бұрын
Hello Russell Iam a female aged 24 years old. I have never been through this but I want to give Amanda a hug hearing all the suffering she has been through let try to use empathy to try to think about the heartbreaking position she was put in. I believe that as Women it should be a option available to all
@GurtGobain
4 жыл бұрын
Officially the weirdest hairstyle I've ever seen. It's like a ton of effort was put into making it look as bad as possible.
@notconvinced2204
4 жыл бұрын
That sounds like a compliment in my opinion
@RootzRockBand
4 жыл бұрын
A mothers womb is created to be the safest and most nurishing place to protect and give life to an innocent child as made by our most high creator. This woman says she cares about her choice, but never did she consider the feelings and life of the baby inside of her. I wonder how many women would have an abortion if they knew that in a next life they would have to be aborted and feel the pain and suffering of an aborted child. Eventually everyone will be held accountable for all of our actions here on Earth. Our creator gave us a moral compass to use along with empathy, if we dont heed our moral compass there are horrible painful consequences. There is no hiding place from our just and fair most high creator.
@scarlettchappendenden9059
4 жыл бұрын
What a brave lady. I get it. x
@bloomination3282
4 жыл бұрын
I get it too. And she definitely is. 💯
@scarlettchappendenden9059
4 жыл бұрын
@@bloomination3282 That is great honey. xx Sending you peace.
@bloomination3282
4 жыл бұрын
@@scarlettchappendenden9059 Received, appreciated and returned
@ThepurposeofTime
4 жыл бұрын
I think he will never admit it but he thought of throwing that bottle of water in the air for it to accidently land on her head 😬
@dejanromih7913
4 жыл бұрын
Oh yeah I see it now 😂
@meagain1112
2 жыл бұрын
I understand one abortion. I don’t understand the same person having multiple abortions. At some point, we have way too many contraceptive options and free ones through health depts. You can drive to get food stamps then drive to get yourself free medical care through the state but you can’t grab free contraception while you’re there? Makes zero sense to me.
@mandyinseattle
4 жыл бұрын
Their "sanctity of life," as we know, is that only some lives they consider worth saving, so.....
@meghan42
4 жыл бұрын
What does that mean? I value life, and yes, I have had an abortion.
@mandyinseattle
4 жыл бұрын
@@meghan42 I don't mean you. I mean people who loudly pretend to care about the sanctity of life and are adamanetly opposed to abortions -- or so they claim -- but are for the death penalty and don't care about feeding kids or providing healthcare to people. Those are the hypocrites I don't respect.
@Coloradokushy
4 жыл бұрын
mythbuster you’re messed up inside your brain. Is the problem you got rocks in your head
@WhoFlungDung
4 жыл бұрын
@@mandyinseattle Lol at comparing the death penalty for people that have murdered 1 or many others and the killing of an innocent human life.. Personally id rather them rot in prision but you're comparing apples to oranges here.
@WhoFlungDung
4 жыл бұрын
@@meghan42 not to mention that means you only value "some" life.
@werquantum
4 жыл бұрын
Russell essentially asked at about 7:00, If it’s not a baby and there are no pro-lifers around to shame you, is there a struggle? She answered that nearly every woman who goes through it struggles. Why?
@Fierie333
4 жыл бұрын
There could be many reasons, where you live, culture, wealth, family, personal experiences, and religion and all that can have a huge impact. first things that came into my mind were pain, anxiety, shame. sometimes the abortion itself can be traumatic. The importance of sex education is huge and it should be aviable for all... sometimes abortion is the only choice left... in general, everyone should have the option and education for safe sex
@catrionacollins2593
4 жыл бұрын
Well if you consider the ' morning after pill'. Is it abortion???? Do prolifers consider it abortion??? If life begins at conception it must be. When I was young if you wanted it you had go to your GP get a prescription, and I'm sure that was a struggle for those women. But today you can go into a chemist and get very simply. I know many women, including my self who have done it and it wasnt a struggle. In fact it felt like the sensible responsible thing to do. So because society changed their opinion on 'morning after pill' I was empowered to make a choice. But if I had waited a few days and that egg implanted, and i had to take a different pill to remove the embryo from my body.... I'm now a murder??? It makes no sense to me.
@catrionacollins2593
4 жыл бұрын
Sorry I sould have said embryo implanted not egg
@werquantum
4 жыл бұрын
🍀 🍀 I appreciate your thoughtful answer. That said, I wanted to hear it from the guest-a women who evidently has a high enough level of confidence to admit to the world that she’s had three (three!) abortions. She almost seems proud of it. She presents herself exactly the opposite of someone who is concerned about what other people think. Apparently the trauma of having an abortion is so deep, she went in for at least a couple more. Pregnancy is such a drag, baby. Please. So, in this context, I truly wonder what she struggles with. Could it be that she suspects deep down that it’s wrong? If not, what is it?
@catrionacollins2593
4 жыл бұрын
@@werquantum Yes I see what you mean, her whole demeanor just seemed off to me. I guess if I could try put my self in her shoes for a minute. I would struggle with the fact that I had put my self in that position three times. I would be disappointed in my self needing an abortion three times. Almost like if I was a drug addict and I had relapsed three times. I dont know this woman's story, but if she managed to find her self in a state of crisis pregnancy three times, perhaps she wasnt in the best mental state at those times.
@___Bexx___
4 жыл бұрын
My first response to hearing that she'd had 3 abortions was empathy for her, like what a journey to go through. I hoped she had support during that time and hope that she was able to deal with all that by now. None of me judged her decision or her because we dont know what's in her head and why she done that. It's a bit wild to judge when you literally dont know what your even judging
@msbramble176
4 жыл бұрын
Agreed
@scottcharney1091
3 жыл бұрын
True, but: *you're.
@noongourfain
4 жыл бұрын
If a woman has 0 children she has an average of 450 chances to get pregnant over a lifetime. Just something to think about.
@noongourfain
4 жыл бұрын
@espiritu you had an IUD in for 37 years? from the age of 13 to 50?
@ilovenycsomuch
4 жыл бұрын
From rape?
@noongourfain
4 жыл бұрын
@@ilovenycsomuch oh now I understand what you mean....got it. I thought you were talking to espiritu. 1 in 4 women will be raped in their lifetime. And because predators look for certain victim profiles. If you are a certain type you might get raped more than once. My friend was 4'8" and she was raped 3 times in on year by strangers. Predators know what they are doing. They pick easy targets. small people, weak people and young people.
@ohlawd3699
4 жыл бұрын
Which woman has ever become pregnant 450 times though? 😲
@cocoknows
4 жыл бұрын
@@noongourfain I would refrain from saying the word 'weak', because in using that word you are making a character judgment, and rape victims are often blamed for their rapes. Instead I would say vulnerable people - people with mental and physical disabilities, people from broken homes, drug addicts, sex workers, etc. The list goes on.
@gamersomatic5395
4 жыл бұрын
To be utterly blunt. I don’t believe she believes what she says when she disagrees with the pro life people. I think she suffered trauma in a system that allows that trauma to be perpetrated. Nothing about this woman says ‘Life doesn’t begin at conception’, but she will say that with a flavor of belief. I don’t believe her though. :(
@amorcanta
4 жыл бұрын
life is sacred, period. It is between the creator and the couple. You only have to answer to the creator, if you believe in a creator? I believe in the creator so I dear not to judge - so please if you decide to abort , don’t worry about what I think; worry about yourself ,your life and your legacy. The Creator will judge all of us, he will have the last say🙏.
@jonathanryals9934
4 жыл бұрын
I hate when people look and point at me and say "that crazy person", like those really crazy anti-abortion people are always doing...
@MovieCrazeYT
4 жыл бұрын
I just cannot understand this woman's viewpoint about a baby "not having a life." She's convinced herself to outright deny science in order to mentally justify her wicked actions.
@Arginne
4 жыл бұрын
And this is what we call “false light”.
@demitraferles7970
4 жыл бұрын
Fawn perhaps you just don't listen. What an inane response
@meghan42
4 жыл бұрын
What does that mean? I am forever grateful for safe and legal abortions. I value women! Before abortions were safe and legal, there were thousands of women who died in botched abortions. Abortions will always happen, either safely or deadly. What would you "choose"?
@Coloradokushy
4 жыл бұрын
demitra ferles I think you need a new brain
@Theendlessriver77
4 жыл бұрын
mythbuster Seems like a really gross thing to be “ forever grateful” for. I’m not even a religious person and I can easily determine that abortions end the lives of humans. Granted there are extenuating circumstances when they are medically necessary but they shouldn’t be used as a form of birth control. This woman had 3! I can almost excuse the one she had as a teenager but learn from your past fuck ups!
@racheluk1759
4 жыл бұрын
@@meghan42 They will never be 100% safe. I know a girl who had complications after a routine op and ended up never being able to fall pregnant ever again.
@catrionacollins2593
4 жыл бұрын
Would people judge her if she had taken the morning after pill 3 times? Why is the moring after pill morally acceptable but abortion isn't? Is it the fact that you can't be 100% sure that egg was fertilised? How do prolifers feel about the morning after pill???
@Arginne
4 жыл бұрын
Plan B just postpones ovulation and I think its a great tool. It isn’t an abortion. There’s mixed opinions on it though like Catholics don’t really believe in any form or birth control because it’s essentially messing and intervening with nature.
@catrionacollins2593
4 жыл бұрын
@@Arginne but it can also thicken the lining of the womb to prevent fertilisation.
@catrionacollins2593
4 жыл бұрын
@@Arginne sorry I ment implantation of a fertilised egg
@catrionacollins2593
4 жыл бұрын
It isn't considered abortion because a woman isn't considered pregnant until implantation... Which is 5 to 6 days after conception
@Arginne
4 жыл бұрын
Catriona Collins Ill have to look into that more I was always taught it isnt an abortion and Ive personally used it a few times now. Felt awful after though physically.
@gabriel_cantillo
4 жыл бұрын
Walks into a salon... Client: ”i’m going for the ace ventura look” Stylist: “Allllll-riiiiiggty Then”
@robodinosaurs
4 жыл бұрын
She’s preparing for the edgy Transgender professor in the next Harry potter reboot
@alexperkins8433
4 жыл бұрын
lol
@tonkasfinest7780
4 жыл бұрын
@Batphink Reynolds lesbians usually do not get pregnant. And certainly not three times.
@ariesforever5260
4 жыл бұрын
@@tonkasfinest7780 my friend had two kids and is a lesbian 😂 guess the kids was a cover before she came out
@hanumaniam
4 жыл бұрын
@@tonkasfinest7780 @Batphink Reynolds lesbians don't usually marry Neil Gaiman either. Funny that.
@RuslanKD
2 жыл бұрын
Yikes, one of the worst takes on abortion I’ve seen. The issue with this logic, is there’s never a reasonable conceding of when does life actually begin? Oh we should just trust you to do whatever you want 🤦♂️
@j3ffed439
2 жыл бұрын
I'm not a woman and thus have never had an abortion, but I think in the statement of trusting the individual to make the decision, you are highlighting that someone else is electing themselves to force a decision for them. Should that power stay with the individual or should it be made for them?
@Tassycrafty
4 жыл бұрын
I like how Russel is able to ask relevant questions, while still respecting his guest- the way Russel listens, and challenges the things he does not understand- all executed in a fine and relatable way. This is why I watch every single video. He has helped me to be more open minded, as far as becoming more accepting of how other people think and believe in- Thank you Russell.
@finallyfinally9317
4 жыл бұрын
Fuck me , large groups of people from both sides as a 38 year old I can remember a time when people actually agreed to disagree . It's people who have fundamentalist beliefs or who aren't willing to change at all , who argue for the sake of argument or who argue or say things with an agenda that need to learn how to listen and no side of the devide has the monopoly on pigheadedness, narracistic behaviour and /or unkindness and stupidity believe me mate @Batphink Renolds
@written12
3 жыл бұрын
Yes, yes. I used to think Russell was an egotist and intellectually. . ,well, ditzy. But he’s not, at least after quitting the substances, getting older etc. and, as you say, he’s an extraordinary listener
@Tassycrafty
3 жыл бұрын
@@written12 👍🏼😀
@michellea9857
3 жыл бұрын
@@written12 I feel he’s certainly got better, I remember him on Question Time several years back arguing against Nigel Farage and arguing with Peter Hitchens on Channel 4 and he came off very poorly, now as a host you do have to develop some listening skills and listen more to other people’s opinions. He has aged well.
@beeeeounka
2 жыл бұрын
I love this response.
@daniblablah9329
4 жыл бұрын
She says our beliefs systems are random and we just accept what authority and our parents tell us, yet she acts like her view on abortion is somehow created out of truth and logic beyond culture and influence.
@redvelvet5374
4 жыл бұрын
She talks about us like we're pre-programmed robots.
@ryanboshell6124
4 жыл бұрын
Was about to post this!
@madgoat2692
4 жыл бұрын
@CeCe expect If your the bad kid or the one who talks back
@aimeedawnpritchard6259
4 жыл бұрын
Idiotic, is what her words are
@ryanboshell6124
4 жыл бұрын
CeCe as it happens, I don’t disagree. But I’m glad you edited it.
@glindam2357
4 жыл бұрын
Dearest friend, this video was the beginning of my healing. I’m 67. I’ve been carrying around a silent pain/shame all these years. It was like opening up a door and letting go of that....hearing the two of you talk compassionately about the unspoken feelings of trauma I’ve felt. I deeply want to thank you.
@TB-oe1sq
4 жыл бұрын
Sending you love ❤️
@delia5588
4 жыл бұрын
You deserve this healing. Glad for you. ❤️ be well.
@snowflakesfall6891
3 жыл бұрын
You committed a terrible sin so it's only fair that you felt that trauma. Taking someone else's life is not within your own rights, especially that of an innocent child.
@prolifeeurope4827
3 жыл бұрын
Glinda! It is very brave of you to open up that door after so many years :) We really hope that you can find healing and recovery very soon.
@nickpuencho
3 жыл бұрын
You and all who have done this have murdered a child, an extremely valuable human life, youd be better off by repenting from what you did not accepting it
@wolfman8449
4 жыл бұрын
I thought it was Robert Pattinson doing a flock of seagals biopic in the thumbnail
@denishacollins8316
4 жыл бұрын
🤣🤣🤣🤣
@notconvinced2204
4 жыл бұрын
They’re both hot
@unassepikus9703
4 жыл бұрын
Looking like ace Ventura Pet detective or joker from the Batman animated series lol
@monicaquinones7999
4 жыл бұрын
I am wondering how to do my hair like that, leaves an impression.
@7Shivers
4 жыл бұрын
Omg brilliant 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@amberhanback5769
4 жыл бұрын
I am Pro-Life. However, I am not about condemnation. I’m about empathy and understanding and loving an individual despite whether or not I agree with their choices. This is why I love Russell’s conversations. They are incredibly empathetic and seek understanding of one another’s viewpoint. Well done !
@kraken7784
4 жыл бұрын
@Farkus Garvey pro-life did u read it?
@NoobNoobNews
4 жыл бұрын
How many abortions do you need to be empathetic while killing a baby? Here is the thing. Empathy is understanding and feeling what someone else is feeling. I will never empathize with someone who kills three babies in a row. Why? because I don't kill babies.
@TheDriftdog
4 жыл бұрын
Maugrade abortion is different from killing babies. You should read more about it.
@meghan42
4 жыл бұрын
@@NoobNoobNews I had an abortion and I have NEVER killed a baby. Like Russel, I am mostly vegan. I do not wish harm on life. You are overly-emotional in your response, accusing women who opt for abortions as "baby-killers'. This is simply not the case. I wonder where you get this notion that having an abortion is equal to "killing a baby"? I am getting so tired of this over-used rhetoric. It's not factual, not real.
@meghan42
4 жыл бұрын
@M Z If the "unborn" are the most vulnerable, I suggest you consider the lives of the born who were forced on women who had no personal resources nor societal resources to love and nurture. Why must you insist on women being incubators for a fetus, when you don't insist on the safety of women themselves?
@ghiadiana817
4 жыл бұрын
3 abortions? I think this discussion should be more about contraception at this point.
@YourMoonJoy
4 жыл бұрын
I think people underestimate how quickly some women can get pregnant. A close friend of mine had 2 abortions. She fell pregnant after her Frist time having sex and the second was a contraceptive failure both she and her boyfriend were not ready to be parents. And I'm assuming shes at least late 30s and some one who started having sex at 15 there areany opportunities for contraception to fail, due to weight gain, or drug interactions, hormonal changes, storage, even diet can all affect the effectiveness of the BC.
@insaniquarium92
4 жыл бұрын
Exactly.
@valfanclub
4 жыл бұрын
i thought the same. after morning pill is your friend in case of accident.
@brianlaughlin8974
4 жыл бұрын
I thought the same thing: "She's had 3 abortions?!" It's almost like she's an avid collector of abortions. It she really that "unlucky" or is she just totally irresponsible? There are so many easy options for contraception available that anything beyond 1 or 2 causes me to think there is some kind of weird agenda going on.
@valfanclub
4 жыл бұрын
@@brianlaughlin8974 Not judging , just wondering about how does one gets to 3 abortions, which is quite a lot, having said that, could be linked to being in the US. not sure on contraception there. With an active love life, accidents do happen, but it used to be easy to go for a morning after pill. in fact, you have up to 5 days if you get an IUD so someone wanting to avoid pregnancy can certainly manage to dodge that situation at least in the UK.
@larissadueck2643
2 жыл бұрын
It is 100% unscientific to believe that human life doesn't begin at conception
@annette4392
4 жыл бұрын
If you haven't faced that decision I'm not sure you truly understand. I was raised a Christian, I got pregnant despite the morning after pill as I suffered from ulcerative colitis which was in a flare. We think not enough of the pill was absorbed by my system. I was talked into a termination by my religious parents, my partner and the doctor. I was 17. At 51 not a day goes by without my thinking of it. The awfulness of it. The fact I was given no counselling. That the abortion went wrong and 2 days later I was rushed into hospital hemorrhaging. Yet, I was given a D & C and put on a maternity ward to recover!! Unless you have faced a life or death choice you do not understand.
@JessicaPottorff030612
4 жыл бұрын
I'm sorry you had to go through that.
@nataliaturner4845
4 жыл бұрын
I'm sorry you had to suffer through that 💔 Luckily I never had to face a decision like that, but I've read a lot of stories and everyone's is different. Many are like yours, while many others have no complications or regrets. Like a lot of things in life, what's right/wrong in one case might be wrong/right for another. To me, what it boils down to is that in order to find peace with a decision, women have to have to be making a fully informed choice for themselves, have adequate support in their personal life, and the full attention of a medical team every step of the way, including counseling afterward if they need it. I don''t think most women get all three, no matter what they ultimately choose, because public health in general (both mental & physical) has never really been a priority like that.
@willowway42
4 жыл бұрын
💚
@stancexpunks
4 жыл бұрын
The morning after pill does not stop pregnancy if you are already pregnant or ovulating. All it does is prevent you from going into ovulation if you haven’t already
@amber.wellness
4 жыл бұрын
So sorry your choice was denied to you and you had to go through all that
@talentedpigeon3296
4 жыл бұрын
Nobody forced morality down my throat growing up like she tries to insinuate. Quite the opposite actually. That spiel seems to be pretty common with anyone making an anti- God or anti-moral argument. She says *nobody* uses it casually but she's had 3 already??
@redvelvet5374
4 жыл бұрын
The schools I went to told me abortion was fine, and yet here I am, thinking that abortion is wrong. This lady makes it out to sound like we aren't thinking for ourselves.
@helpyourcattodrive
4 жыл бұрын
I have a friend who had seven, I had another friend who had five.
@atme365
4 жыл бұрын
I even went to catholic school, but we were all raised super liberal, like _your body, your choice_ which i think is almost brainwashing bc abortion is devastating
@mebeingaginger
4 жыл бұрын
'she's had 3 already??' No form of contraception is 100% safe, even with perfect use. 'anti- God' ? Are you arguing for the government to make people live in accordance with your religion? What if it was a different religion from your own and someone tried to make it law that you live in accordance their religion? Other considerations: No living human being has the right to live of someone else's body, even if that kills them. The government can't make people donate blood (or organs) if there is a shortage, even if that kills those in need. Again no living human is entitled to someone else's body. Should that law change? Demanding practicing abstinence is also not an option. The aids epidemic has taught us that.
@IosuamacaMhadaidh
4 жыл бұрын
@jjjeanjeane you're generalizing and btw there are many whose experience is opposite of yours. You cannot control anyone. Turn the other cheek and let it go.
@anitnelav9028
4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, no. I guess it’s way better to have 3 abortions than it is to be responsible and use birth control.
@notsteve1475
4 жыл бұрын
SNAP!!
@crystalsunshine
4 жыл бұрын
ya know...sometimes pregnancy isn't a choice...until THAT doesn't happen, mind your business and stop judging what other people do with their bodies.
@seb4376
4 жыл бұрын
crystalsunshine the issue isn’t what the person does with their body. the issue is what their decision does to that fetus, which while it may be inside of the woman, it has different dna and bloody type and is definitely NOT her body.
@Fierie333
4 жыл бұрын
this is such a hard one. Birth control = condom / pills / other possibilities. Both parties are responsible. Lack of education might lead to unwanted pregnancy and not knowing how to have safe sex or possible birth control options. Sometimes they’re really expensive / unaviable in some parts of the world / some parents or communities make them unaccessable and control or don’t give information. Unwanted accidents happen too
@victoriapence6725
4 жыл бұрын
@@crystalsunshine yes, as an RN who worked for years in the Maternal/Child Health field, birth control is often confered to women alone and often fails.
@shucksful
4 жыл бұрын
What are we doing with our hair....
@Ecstract
4 жыл бұрын
Lmaaaoooooo ssshhhh
@celicacelica1
4 жыл бұрын
I am pro life but I would never trivialise the jeopardy a person deals with when faced with an unplanned and unwanted pregnancy so I don't know what the solution is but people trivialising what an abortion is, just to argue for people choosing to have them is absurd.
@davidkrapensits4367
4 жыл бұрын
Play stupid games win stupid prizes I say
@celicacelica1
4 жыл бұрын
@M Z agree. The last thing I would ever do is make a pro choice argument but I do believe that living in poverty is a jeopardy. I didn't actually watch this video beyond the point where I found out she had 3 abortions and I had to stop. If I could ever condone an abortion it would have to be because of an emergency and a last resort, that doesn't happen 3 times.
@LemonSte
4 жыл бұрын
@M Z it was also the man's choice to have sex. If he doesn't have to carry the child and suffer then why should she
@celicacelica1
4 жыл бұрын
@@LemonSte how is carrying a child, suffering?
@aphroditesaphrodisiac3272
4 жыл бұрын
@@LemonSte if it's due to rape, I'll only blame the man. If it's consensual, then it's the woman's fault, since she's the only one who can choose to give the man permission to knock her up. Her body, her choice, but also her responsibility. This is consistent with property laws. You can't give someone permission to do something to your property, then blame them for doing it.
@MrMurph73
4 жыл бұрын
The problem with the abortion debate: -Pro choice people think pro life people are nothing but evil misogynists who want to control women's bodies -Pro life people think pro choice people are nothing but evil baby killers Neither is true.
@rainbow9987
4 жыл бұрын
Yep it’s all perspective
@danf1862
4 жыл бұрын
When pro-lifers believe in the sanctity of all life, they'll have a leg to stand on. But as long as they're sucking down the eggs and flesh of other animals... kinda just hypocritical imo. It really is all or nothing if you say something like sanctity of life.
@maryannargiro779
4 жыл бұрын
That is a very narrow and simplistic view on a very complicated discussion. We will never grow as a country if all our discussions remain predominately superficial.
@bearman631
4 жыл бұрын
That's not the problem. The problem - killing a baby is murder.
@bearman631
4 жыл бұрын
@@danf1862 humans are not equal to animals. But if you want to outlaw killing animals and babies...I am in...are you?
@HP-fn4bo
4 жыл бұрын
Cling to that belief system lady. I imagine you have to.
@HaZe905
4 жыл бұрын
imagine her changing her mindset now. Couldn't be possible without religion but im guessing she's an atheist
@michaelbashford2733
4 жыл бұрын
@@HaZe905 plenty of atheists are pro-life, this notion that only religious people are pro-life is narrowminded and so is the notion of not being able to change their mind without conversion. The problem is that, from what I've seen, what an abortion truly is just isn't discussed in real honesty. It was only when I was educated on the reality of what an abortion is that I became pro-life. No conversion needed, and I'm pretty sure I'm not ghe first or the last perosn to have that experience.
@HaZe905
4 жыл бұрын
@@michaelbashford2733 look at the context of the conversation "cling to that belief system lady. I imagine you have to." As in, she is in too deep now to change belief systems. My point isn't about becoming pro life if you're a male bearded atheist, its about the journey SHE would have to make to become pro life. There'd be a lot of reckoning. As an atheist she wouldn't make it to the other side of that reckoning in one piece so she will never begin the journey. With a belief in a reckoning oneself with something higher, the journey may be undertaken, and with a belief that one can be forgiven, the journey may be survived, but without these things she will have to cling to her belief system as it is or be lost.
@scottcharney1091
3 жыл бұрын
@@michaelbashford2733 I've watched videos of several abortions, quite up-close and detailed, and I'm as belligerently pro-choice as always.
@sc4916
2 жыл бұрын
Abortion so clinical , lets call it ending a child’s life , it’s not that simple. Why are people so upset when someone stands up for child’s life or rights ? It’s not an easy or simple thing I agree , but let’s not forget it’s a life. My son is the greatest person I’ve ever known and he’s 7 now , and saved me from myself. I’ve spent my life since 18 serving in the army , to fire dept to now law enforcement, and watch and listen to , too much death. So don’t ever cheapen life , ever. Every death takes a piece of you with it, my nightmares always remind me nightly Russell keep doing you shows , you’re actually on point talking to people , you’ve seen the dark side of life and seen the Hollywood rich / famous side. I can respect that. I’ve always judged people on not how’ve they’ve fallen but how they pick themselves up. Keep being you and looking for real truths
@sideburnsandwich1119
2 жыл бұрын
Can you explain why a life is so valuable though? You've just exposed your own indocrination and bias. You want to pile as much guilt onto someone who makes the difficult choice for an abortion as possible by labelling it child murder. There is no child and they don't have a life. The process of abortion is removing a collection of organised genetic material that will potentially develop intoa child that will go onto have a life. That's why it's not called child murder by anyone who isn't comletely devoid of rationaloty. Clinical procedures have clinal names. It's wy we don't call colonoscopies 'going bum fishing.' The earth shattering impacts of a persons death are so severe because of the people they leave behind. The lives you impact is what gives your life value. Just as the question of 'if a tree falls and no one sees it, does it make a sound?' we can ask 'If a person with no friedns or family dies, does it matter?' There is also the 'human potential' element of a young persons life but, considering we are each capable of destruction, cruelty and as many attrocities as we are of creating beauty and performing good deeds, the 'what-iffery' factor nulifies itself as a purely hypothetical reason to be invested in someone or view human life as innately sacred.
@stanleecups3576
4 жыл бұрын
me, me, I, I, me, me I, I, excuse excuse, me me, my feeling, my trauma, me, me..................................ego-placation/blame deflection, as designed, as taught.........the hungry altar beckons the selfish
@Yararar
4 жыл бұрын
okay..and so what? Why is it bad to care about herself, isnt it her own life? Dont get me wrong, I want to say I'm pro-life, but this doesn't seem convincing as an argument
@kateb6866
4 жыл бұрын
stan leecups yes- her Ego is immense...sad to watch really. She is her own prisoner
@emilycalderwood2573
4 жыл бұрын
Ah yes because carrying a child in her body is not her decision. Would you rather she talked from the unborn foetus’s perspectives? The pro lifers perspectives?
@emilycalderwood2573
4 жыл бұрын
Yara hey, if you “want” to say you’re pro life, you’re probably pro choice! Being pro choice doesn’t mean you’re pro abortion, it means you understand it’s necessary for a lot of cases. Example, you can be pro choice but never ever want to g9 through an abortion yourself. That okay. It’s your body, your choice.
@Yararar
4 жыл бұрын
@@emilycalderwood2573 I really don't know what to say, the idea of abortion makes me feel really sick, it feels like murder, pro-choice seems to take it way too lightly, pro-life also feels too invasive, i wish there were another group to be very honest. I wish people understood the consequences of sex better and took it more seriously
@Treehandler
4 жыл бұрын
Who has the crazier hair?
@DivineFeminineOracle777
4 жыл бұрын
So much judgement in the comments from people who have never had to have an abortion or deal with a pregnancy they didn’t want to continue with. Until you have to make that decision yourself then keep your judgements to yourselves! Those who live in glass houses shouldn’t throw stones. May everyone open their hearts and minds to deep and true compassion, empathy and understanding. If your aren’t a woman who hasn’t had to deal with a pregnancy they couldn’t continue with for whatever reason then your opinion is pretty much invalid unless it’s kindness and understanding. Thank you for sharing this Russell! God bless and enjoy the journey of expanding your consciousness to 5D.
@Arginne
4 жыл бұрын
I’m not judging anyone it’s not my place. And yes I’ve had an unplanned pregnancy and no support. But No, I won’t turn a blind eye when I see wrong being done. This woman is spreading false light.
@ryanlowkey2128
4 жыл бұрын
what about men that deal with women abortions what the men have to go through as well.its not just a one way street.i think many abortions is about one's self it's a selfish act.and the way not to get pregnant is to not have sex were in 2020 how do ppl not know this?
@franklottar
4 жыл бұрын
Well, abortion is such a shallow thing now. In a society in which freedom is to be maximised everything can be deemed as an obstacle to that freedom. How about responsibility. This talk is so PC. Nothing was stated.
@dariolaseri2661
4 жыл бұрын
Resposibility of what precisely?
@koolaidjerk
4 жыл бұрын
@@dariolaseri2661 Of your actions and their consequences.
@hadjira8987
4 жыл бұрын
It was hard to click on this and I'm pro-choice (before a certain period). Think that just proves how abortion and miscarriage NEVER gets talked about unless you're consoling someone who's had it. If you're someone of faith, just be respectful to people who choose a path different to yours. All religions speak of love and understanding for all, lean into that. 👍
@yellowballoon4143
4 жыл бұрын
True love is the ability to tell someone that they are doing the wrong thing. I dont know why in this interview they would say "if you believe in life beginning at conception" when it is a scientific fact that it does. She was talking about those bloody photos as if they were propaganda but they arent it's actually what happens. Also why are we listening to a lady that has had THREE abortions. The odds of getting pregnant by accident 3 separate times are astounding, she says she understands and respects the pro life argument with her words but with her actions is quite the opposite.
@siem6259
4 жыл бұрын
@@yellowballoon4143 Thats quite true. However, you should also be able to put into perspective what kind of life that is. Yes, the cell is technically alive from that point onwards. But its waaay less complex and developed than even a snail or ant for quite some time after fertilization, as it doesnt even have specialized cell structures yet. I dont seem to get how people attach so much value to a clump of cells even less developed than an insect, which most would squash without hesitation. And before you start, no thats not an unfair comparison to make. As a Biologist myself I can assure you most scientists would agree you could say that that clump of cells is biochemically-wise not very different from a jellyfish. You might say it has a different potential as it can grow into a human instead of a jellyfish or insect. But then I'd like to ask you: does having different potential really mean one is superior over the other and therefore one is somehow more entitled to life that the other?
@siem6259
4 жыл бұрын
@@yellowballoon4143 And talking about a mismatch between words and actions. If would really value life so much that even from that basic stage it holds so much value to you I would also recommend you'd stop eating meat, killing bugs, driving a cars etc. etc. as those are directly affecting and ending forms of life you apparantly already value so much, be it that they're very basic. Oh and also start to figure out which brands of clothing, make-up etc. support child labour and modern day slavery cause there's quite a chance you're supporting a few of those with your current shopping behaviour. Sorry for the speech, I really have no intend to bash on you or something. But this hypocrisy that I've noticed with pro-life supporters has been annoying me for quite some time. If you would realy value life so much. You should begin to make the lives that are already born more bearable, human and animal alike. And perhaps you already do that, but I doubt all pro-lifers invest all their energy in caring for lives that are already born instead of the ones that aren't even here yet. This sentiment of some (in this case unborn) lives appartly mattering more then others has led to so many wrongdoings in human history. So, until you really(!) try to form this world into one where no life is in missery, you should probably not call yourself pro-life.... And only after all humans have acceptable living standards, your concern with a lump of cells in contrast to actual people in need, might make sense to me.
@bobbyjayz1726
4 жыл бұрын
@Selenitemare I believe in a difference between human life and other forms of life and in every human life deserves a chance to live
@goofygrandlouis6296
4 жыл бұрын
Well the subject of abortion is typically a topic where compromise CANT be found. If you actually believe it's murder, than you can't turn a blind eye. it's like letting someone be murdered on the street and you not doing anything about it.
@bookerbooker6317
4 жыл бұрын
If life doesn't start at conception then when does it start?
@Godwill3
4 жыл бұрын
Apparently first breath.
@0Josipa0
4 жыл бұрын
Life is not the relevant thing here. Sentience is. And it does not start at conception.
@bookerbooker6317
4 жыл бұрын
@@0Josipa0 first, why is life not the relevant element? Second, when does sentience start?
@marcemmamcquilliam6516
4 жыл бұрын
Find this lady very cold and calculated....3 abortions? I'm a man. I have never had an abortion but my wife did. I think of that decision to this day....31 years ago.
@odn4502
4 жыл бұрын
You dont know whay its like to be a woman or have a body of a woman also you don't know her personal experiences
@wackey2k10
4 жыл бұрын
she's probably dumb too, imagine contraception or a rubber not working 3 times. She's missing a few brain cells.
@augmentedkeys5971
4 жыл бұрын
Does Emma have her own account? Her own say?
@augmentedkeys5971
4 жыл бұрын
Can men have an abortion?
@augmentedkeys5971
4 жыл бұрын
It creeps me out when I see accounts with both the male and female together. Notice the male's name is first.
@m.p.6039
4 жыл бұрын
I was really interested to hear her say she was going to go into what it's like to have an abortion, and how rare it is that anyone even wants to discuss the physical reality of that. So true. And then she starts talking about what it's like to walk through a group of protesters instead of what it's like to have an abortion. And she had 3 abortions. All the girls I knew personally who had that many were subservient to men who didn't want to wear a condom, and would make mistakes like forgetting to take the pill. I never had sex without a condom, so I wouldn't know what getting an STD or having an abortion is like.
@chemigue
4 жыл бұрын
Abortion for birth control? No way. This is a narcissist society. Take responsibility.
@KT8702
4 жыл бұрын
The thing is.. you don't get to decide that.
@JohannY2
4 жыл бұрын
I feel like you build a over simplified straw man argument about what pro life is about.
@meghan42
4 жыл бұрын
How's that? Expand?
@luckyPiston
4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for posting a comment that allows me to also use the word straw-man !!!!!
@beckylane5109
4 жыл бұрын
@@luckyPiston lmao wut
@2davivadiva
4 жыл бұрын
I defer you to Ben Shapiro’s abortion rebuttals.
@ivanivanovic5857
4 жыл бұрын
@TheVirusSoftware No, abortion is wrong because it ends a life. It doesn't become ok just because you're killing a "cluster of cells", because in reality we're all just a cluster of cells. It's not a parasite either, because a parasite feeds off of specifically "another species". It is 100% human, because all of its DNA is human, and codes for creation of a human. And it is most certainly alive, as it fits into the most widely accepted *scientific* definition of life: respond to their environment grow and change reproduce and have offspring have complex chemistry maintain homeostasis are built of structures called cells pass their traits onto their offspring The only place where you may try and get a foothold in that would be on reproduction, but that is not what you think. The young of every species is unable to reproduce *yet* so that requirement only applies to the species as a whole, not every member.
@redemptionhappens7725
4 жыл бұрын
Unsubscribed.
@notconvinced2204
4 жыл бұрын
Oh no. What ever will we do without you. Farewell ✌️
@tommytommy2369
4 жыл бұрын
3 abortions ... something about that isn’t right no matter what you believe in
@puddspudds5102
4 жыл бұрын
A 100 %
@benjimenlockwood
4 жыл бұрын
100% well said! If it was that bad why no take steps to make sure it didnt happen again?
@tommytommy2369
4 жыл бұрын
Ben James exactly what I was thinking
@ReBeLRecKLesSs
4 жыл бұрын
If you bothered to do your research, you would find out she had a very good reason for each of them
@finnmccool6613
4 жыл бұрын
The part of this conversation that makes me uneasy is when Amanda suggests that the only reason someone would adopt a pro-life stance is because they have inherited that belief via their family or been indoctrinated by their culture/religion. I dont believe this to be true, and it comes across to me as slightly ignorant and passive aggressive. It is definately true in a lot of cases, for sure - especially in Christian circles. But I think it is also possible for someone to come to a deep understanding of themselves as an individual and as a human being, and to take the view that abortion, in most cases, is a fundamentally bad 'solution' that undermines the sanctity and precious-ness of human life. Personally, I dont really know what I believe - there are elements of both sides of the fence that ring true to me, and elements that dont sit well. But yeah, you held yourself with admirable equanimity as always Russ xo
@scottcharney1091
3 жыл бұрын
Secular pro-lifers are a different breed. For one thing, they don't have the same hang-ups about sex that the God Squad does. This means that they usually are fully in favor of the protocols that crash the abortion rate: Accurate sex-ed (not absti-nonsense), subsidizing the best forms of contraception (LARCs, i.e. IUDs and implants), etc.
@brendasavini7098
2 жыл бұрын
I think that it could be because she ran the gauntlet of protesters to work her way into the building. There are usually people camped out at Planned Parenthoods with the posters. I have seen them with little kids in tow. And ones that I have seen in passing are church sponsored. I fail to see how you could bring a child with you as you protest, and the posters have absolutely no place at these events. How do you explain one to a 4 or 5 year old.
@kelleyspartiatis4776
2 жыл бұрын
I'm an atheist. I'm pro choice to a degree but I don't like abortion. The hypocrisy is astonishing. If a woman has an abortion at 12 weeks it's not a baby but a fetus. If a woman miscarries at 6 weeks the same people cry for the loss of a baby. The value of the child is measured solely on the woman's feelings. I can't be ok with that
@natalielamont6955
2 жыл бұрын
Completely agree. I believe that consciousness is present when the ovum and sperm combine. This hasn't been 'drilled' into me, it is through investigation of my spiritual beliefs. I am interested to know what the circumstances were for someone to have had 3 abortions. The first was the 'classic' mistake in college.... We live in a society that has extremely easy access to contraception. Yes mistakes happen but we must teach our children that there are consequences to all actions, whether in this case it is bringing that child into the world, or choosing not to and having to live with that. We seem to have got to a point where we say yeah do what you want, you have feedoms, don't let people tell you what to do. But as long as we understand that actions have consequences should be the point.
@brendasavini7098
2 жыл бұрын
@@natalielamont6955 I am pro choice. I believe that another aspect that needs tp be taught in conjunction with the entirety of the freedom concepts, is a sense of MORAL OBLIGATION. WE also need to teach that freedom is for every single person and that there are times when the newly free might need to put their freedoms a little bit back burner out of respect for the other person's freedoms that have now been compromised. Making Ettiqette a required class in school, might not be such a bad idea. I also believe that a potential motive of the overly zealous religiously sponsered and encouraged protests, might sadly be because with a legal abortion, there is now a shortage of white babies for their women who God has chosen to make barren. AND partly because I did stop one day and debate the issue with a church sponsered protest. This particular Planned Parenthood was in a poor neighborhood, with the center having to have a security team to help keep their patients safe. It was the posters that set me off. God would NEVER be okay with that.
@belawood
2 жыл бұрын
I had three abortions and each time I dreamt that night that I was trying to protect a baby from being stabbed. I had no guilt, but the dreams were telling. I always used birth control - I was so responsible. It didn't seem fair.
@pedroparamo891
Жыл бұрын
I guess that's the issue with contraception. That it gets us under the impression that sex and procreation are not directly linked, which also makes it seem so unfair when someone gets pregnant while using contraception, like it's not what's meant to happen, making it more likely to have an abortion. I hope I'm not sounding judgemental or anything like that. Its not my intention.
@bigtay522
3 жыл бұрын
I wonder if pro-choice people would be disturbed by a pregnant woman who uses drugs or alcohol? I wonder if you could defend that activity with "my body, my choice".
@acefreely3314
4 жыл бұрын
Fetus Lives Matter
@ryanboshell6124
4 жыл бұрын
As a male, I know I’m quite removed from this. What I will say is, we have no idea what abortions do to women psychologically, we also don’t know what contraception does to women, psychologically.
@Itsajourneything
4 жыл бұрын
I am a man and I know more than most women comprehend. 1. abortion is killing life. period 2. the woman will deliver herself a trauma. 3. #gobrahmacharya stop having sex driven by lust (ego). 4. male and female connection is sacred/divine 5. taking something fertile and change it to unfruitful = sodomy 6. with 3 abortions/kills deal with the karma dynamics. in the end, there are only actions and consequences.
@ryanboshell6124
4 жыл бұрын
Hypha brainwave state I read your first sentence, and stopped reading. Have a good, celibate life.
@mebeingaginger
4 жыл бұрын
That's not true. You may not have an idea but 'We' do know what contraception or abortions can do to women psychologically and physically. Good and bad. It is also important to know that no form of contraception is 100% safe, even with perfect use.
@ryanboshell6124
4 жыл бұрын
mebeingaginger who is we?
@ryanboshell6124
4 жыл бұрын
mebeingaginger and tell me the psychological and physiological ramifications? Please. With sources.
@zigzagmoo
2 жыл бұрын
3 unwanted pregnancies,despite the abundance of contraception,is too much to sympathise with🤷
@rickwyant
3 жыл бұрын
If you want the baby and it dies you feel the loss of life. If you don't want the baby it's a clump of cells? It's about whether the baby (life) is wanted? Isn't life sacred?
@livingitup9647
2 жыл бұрын
It's wonderful to revisit this discussion, from 2 years ago, with a very intelligent and insightful woman who also has a deep spiritual life. Amanda Palmer is making an important contribution here to this debate about women and their choices around reproduction. I wholeheartedly agree with all the points she makes. Deep appreciation to both of you for having this candid, in-depth and nuanced discussion about one of the most complex issues in human history: who owns your body? Whose life is it, anyway? Where does our individual sovereignty begin and end? 💞☮🌟
@laurak7388
Жыл бұрын
Same questions I have for the babies
@livingitup9647
Жыл бұрын
@@laurak7388 Ahh… the trolls are out in force, looking for any place they can leave their mark - like dogs pissing on a spot where another dog has already left their scent. It’s endless. And pointless - and disingenuous lip service in a country whose poorest, food insecure, homeless or at-risk are increasingly made up of women and children. Countries, and their citizens, who actually care about the plights of the most vulnerable, all our precious children, structure a society and systems that truly, evidentially take good and proper care of them. The hypocrisy in the U.S., and around the world, around the issue of child welfare is stunningly, breathtakingly, heartbreakingly tragic! So don’t drop your little sanctimonious ‘turds’ everywhere you find a spot online to drop one. Ask yourself what YOU are doing to address the egregious, willful neglect, by society, of those millions of children ALREADY HERE who need more assistance, more attention and more unconditional love. In short: love and support and protect those who are among us, and prevent them from becoming the next generation of wounded beings who are then faced with another cycle of procreation…and more neglect…and around and around it goes. When are humans going to wake up to these patterns of ignorance? 😞
@atme365
4 жыл бұрын
I don't think it's so much, _my body, my choice_ as much as it's _my life, my choice_ bc undeniably having a child will change the course of your life, especially if you're not ready for it
@katherines6322
4 жыл бұрын
@daniel raleigh said by someone that will never have to worry about becoming pregnant. I bet $100 if you got some random sleezy woman pregnant you'd be praying she'd get a secret abortion, all the while publicly condemning abortion on your moral pedestal.
@atme365
4 жыл бұрын
@daniel raleigh I'm not saying I'm pro abortion, I'm correcting the flaw in the argument. Having said that, most of the time the responsibility of raising a child falls on the mother, especially in an unplanned situation.
@notit340
4 жыл бұрын
It's not about condemning either side for me, there are situations where it would be understandable or sometimes even necessary, but using abortion as a lifestyle choice is wrong. There are too many others options to prevent pregnancy and too many people who cannot have children who would be happy to have these babies. This Amanda though, ugh! Feel like her belief system must only be some sort of self numbing ideal of excuse for her actions. You can't justify a "just cuz" attitude on a subject like this.
@Arginne
4 жыл бұрын
okaygirl141 so you should pay for crimes your father commited?
@elizabethwarren1813
4 жыл бұрын
It's socially more accepted because Generally, being Forced removes choice even though choice was still present; Like just going to the store , then got raped and pregnant from it. Rape and incest happens every day. How many Pro-Lifers are secretly incest? How many are Serial rapists are just adding as many genes to the pool as they can? Rapists barely get a slap on the wrist and do it again. How many Women would be subjected to Having to have a child because someone said they should.. Not necessarily keep it.. Just having a child will Permanently change the body , it's Nature's Way... Even though they are condemning an innocent for the outrageous act upon them. A person's ability to "move on" after something like that isn't always stellar & Using Abortion as a Tool to Live in Insane Lifestyle probably has an @$$Load of Bad Karma for each Spirit that chooses such a way of Life. Respecting All Life and Each other Used to be in All of Us~ No Matter what You see no matter where you go, no Matter the Mistakes we make as we learn as we go , together , You are my Great Family and I'll Love You with every gram of my Soul
@lanikozmat5746
4 жыл бұрын
She is a good example for how leftist ideology is used as a defense mechanism to not become aware of the cruel actions she took for 3 times
@abc0530
4 жыл бұрын
U read my mind
@madgoat2692
4 жыл бұрын
@TheVirusSoftware not every body has a dictionary for these things anyway I'm pretty sure that libertarians are on the left on the political compass and most join leftist party's like labour in the UK
@lanikozmat5746
4 жыл бұрын
TheVirusSoftware so, Damm yourself 😂😂😂 or make Research about culture Marxism, Frankfurt School, Fabianism, communist infiltration of feminism
@danih2444
4 жыл бұрын
As an adult, you take responsibility for your actions. Abortion is not birth control. Don’t have sex if you don’t want children... that is the main function of intercourse, procreation. At the very least use contraception. Otherwise you are irresponsible. If the pregnancy would without intervention result in a baby human, then it’s a life. One more thing! I wonder if she’s ever dealt with what each of those abortions have caused her to do or the damage they have done. 17 is very young to do something that traumatic, this woman but for those abortions could be a completely different person today. She doesn’t seem like the happiest, most well adjusted person.
@sarahbrennan1342
4 жыл бұрын
Agreed... 🥰❤️🙏🏻
@naomiwilson4630
4 жыл бұрын
So say if someone got raped or someone lied about a vasectomy, that makes you irresponsible ?
@Prettymapleleaf
4 жыл бұрын
Not your body, your opinion doesn’t matter.
@danih2444
4 жыл бұрын
naomi wilson you’re make leaps to the most obscure instances that could happen. 1% of pregnancy terminations are from rape. Additionally, if it is your body you should be responsible for it. Use protection even if they say they had a vasectomy. It’s very simple.
@sarahbrennan1342
4 жыл бұрын
DaniCozi plus this video is not about that... the woman is talking about her experience and not about abortion and rape... which is totally horrific for any woman
@jfit3360
4 жыл бұрын
🤢
@scottcharney1091
3 жыл бұрын
?
@georgewalker7884
4 жыл бұрын
Disagree massively on this one
@richardcarte
7 ай бұрын
Do you at least like the fact that she had empathy?
@TheChristafershawn
4 жыл бұрын
Three! Ummmmmmmmmm.......WTF lady? But as long as your belief system tells you it's okay....then your good. Crazy selfish! My mother had me at the age of 16 , not ideal but thank God she did not think like this women. I am by no means on the RIGHT/conservative side of things but this is kinda disturbing. All life is sacred, the animals, and the unborn.
@LauraVolpintesta
4 жыл бұрын
Even from a “purely medical” standpoint, the hormonal emotional experience is harrowing, when your body adjusts from making a life, to a halt in that whole process
@atme365
4 жыл бұрын
1000%
@Stevie-steel
4 жыл бұрын
Yes it is! A rollercoaster of harrowing hormonal experiences Which happens naturally every month. Regardless of implantation or fertilization. When you take the pill youre kidding your body that you are pregnant so that it doesnt make another and then stopping those hormones for 5 days every month to shed the womb lining that was ready for the foetus. What happens hormonally after birth or miscarriage or abortion is the same as each month (except for full term birth you now hzve additional hormones such as oxytocin to deal with)
@amberjean4044
4 жыл бұрын
@@Stevie-steel if you think the hormonal changes that your body goes through after a miscarriage, a live birth, or an abortion are the same as experienced in the normal menstrual cycle you have obviously never been pregnant & are in for a big surprise if you ever become so.
@SuperFosterMom
4 жыл бұрын
Not for me it wasn’t. 90% are in the first 2 months of pregnancy. We have surveyed how these “changes” affect women and we know by and large most feel relieved and bounce right back. Including myself. I hold space for those who had a different experience but by and large hormonal alterations are a non event
@kristenpeterson3930
4 жыл бұрын
Stephanie I had an abortion when I was less than 1 month pregnant. It was so early that the doctor cautioned me it might not work. Despite how early I was, the hormonal shift I went through in the wake of it was horrible. I have been diagnosed with PMDD and the post abortion hormones and emotions were much worse. It was also absolutely the right choice to go through with it. But suggesting so broadly that it’s the same as menstrual hormones is totally off base. Everyone is different.
@mandieabelle9603
4 жыл бұрын
Before conception there is no life. The moment of conception is the beginning of life.. I don't see how people will say that the baby isn't a life at conception. Three "accidental" pregnancies and then abortions seems quite irresponsible. Pregnancy is quite preventable beyond abstinence. I'm not saying preventing pregnancy is solely up to women but if your a woman not wanting to get pregnant (seeing how the bulk of having a baby falls on us) you would think you would take better care to not get pregnant in the first place.
@inactive883
4 жыл бұрын
you just said how contraception and prevention of pregnancy isn't solely the woman's responsibility...then went on to say it basically is. i think in the whole prolife argument, there really is a strong element of sexism. because heaven forbid the men be held accountable.
@ArielleVicMaxim
4 жыл бұрын
inactive the thing is as women wether we like it or not, the product (baby) gets to grow in our body, it stays there for as long as it needs to, unless an interruption happens whether by choice or consequence, because of that we as women have to be extra careful and mindful, if it was the other way around and men were the ones carrying the baby then it will be them put on that position, again we might not like it but that’s how biology works, now do we as women really want men to have a say ? Have you hear of a law that wants to give the rapist the right to say wether or not the woman he abuse should be allow to have an abortion ? So no as women we were given a biological body capable to grow babies and be responsible for a reason, we should take ownership of that aren’t we strong enough? I think we are we can do it all we are women
@vinny5638
4 жыл бұрын
@@inactive883 Remove the sexism from the equation entirely, the philosophical argument is that from the moment of conception there is life. Genetic code evolving inside of you that will result in another fully functional human life, to end that is logically parallel to death. There isn't another version of the events that remotely make sense. Deflecting about sexism just muddys the conversation, if any responsibility exists then it is 50/50, as fairness would dictate. There, that's done.
@darthwizzywizard
4 жыл бұрын
inactive it also says a lot about her choices of partners. She wasn’t raped. Abortion should not really be used as a contraceptive I would think. I understand mistakes happen etc. but 3 times is a lot. I would think that might make one question her responsibility or put her character in question.
@Prettymapleleaf
4 жыл бұрын
Shit happens. My body, my choice. Your opinion is irrelevant
@laurenunger1612
4 жыл бұрын
She’s just spouting moral relativism. Your beliefs about something don’t measure the truth of it.
@kadaffishakoor5974
4 жыл бұрын
Agreed Lauren, but I think that can go both ways. I do agree with Amanda Palmer to an extent, I believe (which is totally subjective and can be far off from what she is trying to say) she isn't saying what she believes in the "ultimate truth". She's is saying depending how you were raised (your upbringing) and what has been drilled inside your mind from those who have come before you. She can understand why a person who believe that life is created at conception disagree with abortion, however that isn't how she was raised and sees abortion respectfully. To further my thought - I truly believe things are so much more difficult than people can understand. Which is one of the reason why there is so much division in our society today. Instead of addressing people actions and perspective from an understanding point of view we automatically dismiss them - and label them. All I'm saying Lauren is to question why you believe what you believe in respectfully.
@factscrub3755
4 жыл бұрын
@@roas2 this!
@factscrub3755
4 жыл бұрын
@@kadaffishakoor5974 The issue here is the intrinsic value of human life though. It is not what you believe or have been conditioned by whichever environment. A pregnancy = baby = human = life. From the dawn of civilization, this has been the only result. No woman out there gave birth to a fax machine or a mattress for us to question whether it is life in there or not. These postmodern feminists are blatantly just drawing a line in the sand between what is righteous and self-convenient. A line, by the way, that holds no permanent position and yet has no logical conviction to begin with.
@matahari7150
4 жыл бұрын
To answer that last question, definitely. It's an awful heartbreak full of unknowable dread, made so much worse by being judged harshly for it while you're at your most vulnerable: a woman's entire being and psyche are culminating in the process of creating life. To be in a positiin where you are simultaneously feeling no choice but to end this baby that a part of you is hormonally driven to nurture is a nightmare. If you put on a brave front and try to stay composed, the medical staff will crucify you, let alone throngs of hateful strangers or community members who want to crush your soul. That's a whole other level of torment to carry into the operating space. One kind face as you give up this life? Thank God for a friendly anaesthetist. Amanda led with her outer trauma. There's a whole lot more underneath that beats the pain of childbirth hands down, Russell.
@Kamiljont
4 жыл бұрын
Mata Hari You are right. She might have a lot of emotions that she simply hides. She might have been too scared, and without support each time. What annoys me with people with her retorics, is that, If it’s been difficult - I would find it more brave to talk about that. But we don’t know why it happens over and over again for some people. Maybe she, and everyone arguing like her, are just trying to cover up shame and feelings, by closing it off. And why they have to talk about it like that, is to defend their action. But as I said - what annoys me, is that while child protecters are open about emotions and traumas, not counting the aggressive types; pro-choicers show no emotions about the whole thing. They aleays talk anout ”other women”. Of course - some are in danger snd need the support. But it takes away focus from themselves...
@matahari7150
4 жыл бұрын
@@Kamiljont Are you going by her words in this video or by her words elsewhere? If it's just from this video, my point was that she clearly has a lot to say on the subject but it was not necessarily a safe space for her to unwrap that in that particular 20 minutes of their discussion. I think it was probably a deeply traumatising moment, wading through the hateful throng, so that springs to mind as the stand out. She can articulate it intellectually in hindsight, focussing on the philo-political aspect, but the range of emotions at the time would have been a lot more personally oriented and intense to convey. Russell's questions led her down that path also. He might have got a different answer if he had asked her open-endedly what the range of emotions were, rather than bringing the pro-lifers to the fore of the discussion. I could be overthinking this with too little information, and I haven't read through her lyrics and what not, but it's such a difficult thing to experience without adding all the psycho-social judgement to it.
@hollyroxy25
2 жыл бұрын
Honest question....if you believe life doesn’t begin at conception then why would you be conflicted or have any guilt about it at all??
@matahari7150
2 жыл бұрын
@@hollyroxy25 everyone has their own perspective but as we generally can't know when spirit inhabits a growing fetus I think that's a bit of a moot point. You know that if you don't terminate a pregnancy you'll most likely give birth to a human. Not too many people who experience pregnancy would do so without a range of conflicting emotions.
@hollyroxy25
2 жыл бұрын
@@matahari7150 seems like 2 conflicting ideas to me. Like if life doesn’t begin at conception then it never was a baby therefore why feel guilt. As you said, if left alone it will likely grow into a baby, that’s why you felt guilt by terminating. Because you know it was life. Someone would have to be soulless imo not to feel that way. To me, that alone proves life begins at conception. I don’t mean to make you feel bad, that’s not my intention. Though I personally couldn’t have an abortion, I don’t believe it’s my place to tell others not to so I’ve always landed in the middle on this issue.
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