kai is soooo underrated, he is winning back double and crazy to think that side chest aswell
@titoslounge1946
2 ай бұрын
This version of Kai is beating every Mr Olympia going back to maybe 2016 Phil. Edit: I don’t like Kai Greene. So saying this is a testament to how insane he looked here.
@lamontbillingslb
2 ай бұрын
Kai was certainly diced but most feel he sacrificed size for conditioning but I will take this look of Kai any day
@regford3572
2 ай бұрын
No argument here
@shonmoody1706
2 ай бұрын
100% agree
@Gnybr
Ай бұрын
Sorry but Kai ain't beating Big Ramy from 2020. He gest destroyed in the FLS, BLS, SC, AT and MM and some may even say the ST.
@titoslounge1946
Ай бұрын
@@GnybrKai is getting destroyed in the AB and thigh? Ramy has no detail in his quads, and Kai has a better set of abs and thicker lats to accentuate the taper. Yes he’s a little block but Ramy is totally washed out. Kai also wins the front lat spread. He’s not leaning forward sacrificing width, and he has details throughout the entire body. Great width, lat flare, and he doesn’t have that insane size discrepancy between quads and calves.
@konev13thebeast
2 ай бұрын
Kai is the best bodybuilder that never won a Sandow. Better than Kevin
@BodyByNick1
2 ай бұрын
Kev #3 behind victor martinez against jay
@hitesh368
2 ай бұрын
I wish Kai had won this year😢
@lamontbillingslb
2 ай бұрын
This was a tough decision but I think if Kai’s back lat spread looked better he could have taken it
@jackjax7921
Ай бұрын
@@lamontbillingslb 9:24 Lmao Kai lacked details.
@Schizobtw
2 ай бұрын
Perfect sync, another well edited video
@Supersetman
2 ай бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it
@a.k2156
2 ай бұрын
Kai is absolute freak of nature, love him. Phil is just so complete and flows like a action figure. Best rivalries is bb history
@Aminehordy
2 ай бұрын
I agree with you except for the side chest. In my opinion, their upper body is comparable in this shot, however, Kai's lowerbody is better, hence my choice.
@potatolard9643
2 ай бұрын
Phenomenal analysis very well done. Could you perhaps add an extra 30 seconds at the end of the video to delay the automatic recommended next video from displaying. It blocks the screen and reduces the efficacy of your final point. Cheers!
@kennetheverett729
2 ай бұрын
I didn’t realize how good Kai was I could have seen him winning this matchup for sure
@Doppe1ganger
2 ай бұрын
Kai takes it. Better quads. Better Lats. More striations. Sharper peaks. Overall looking harder in every muscle group except the glutes.
@badassmanale
2 ай бұрын
You obviously haven't seen this in hd or the original commentary on this grainy video. In prejudging it was close but in the finals it was lights out. Phil looks as if he's in 3D and HD versus a 2D 480p Kai, and that's not dissing Kai who would beat almost anyone in history except Phil and Ron
@imageword5576
2 ай бұрын
I thought Phil looked better. His muscles were more full and 3-D looking
@Doppe1ganger
2 ай бұрын
@@badassmanale Where's the HD footage, because from what i see here Kai takes nearly every pose, front double, side, most muscular. Not lights out but harder and sharper. If in the HD footage Phil has more details then sure, but it's not what i'm seeing here.
@badassmanale
2 ай бұрын
@@Doppe1ganger There are pictures on the NPC website, theres the Generation Iron documentary and here on yt there's the whole finals in a grainy video, but even them it's like I said: here (prejudjing) it's close but in the finals, even in Bad Quality, it's lights out
@Ab-lifts
2 ай бұрын
@@badassmanalewhat about Yates?
@troy8613
2 ай бұрын
Phil is so slick 😂😂. The way he leans back to create more depth on his back double is so simple yet he’s the only one who does it. Dorian, Kai and Ronnie all stand straight up. Phil also uses his abductors who create more width in his legs when everyone else either crouches or stands straight, Very clever. I never liked his posing routines but when it comes to the mandatories he’s slick AF. BTW great work again!! I love that you used 2012 because they’re both in the same lightening making the comparison even more accurate.
@michaelmayers3622
2 ай бұрын
some people dont like adductors sucks to be them
@ExtremeMetalLIVE
2 ай бұрын
@@michaelmayers3622 we dont like BB like Brandon curry, who tries to compensate shitty quads/sweep showing the abductors akwardly.
@DatNguyen-hx6rb
Ай бұрын
fact
@jackjax7921
Ай бұрын
Arnold knows how to hide his weakness.
@chancelockhart9659
2 ай бұрын
Kai was maybe even bigger and more shredded in some poses but its his flow that never looked good. He looks like a tall bodybuilder that got squished and pushed down or something.
@osodepeluce
25 күн бұрын
Excellent analysis.
@sig4974
2 ай бұрын
Just look at Phil’s left arm on his side chest @5.55 😮his Delt, Bi, Tri and forearm = crazy for sure 👍
@Supersetman
2 ай бұрын
yep
@paulcox2447
2 ай бұрын
Kai still dwarfing him tho. Kais side chest is ridiculous. Easily top 3 of all time.
@sig4974
2 ай бұрын
@@paulcox2447 "dwarfing him” ? Sorry Phil’s density, round, fullness and detail in that pose is knocking on Ronnie’s door and not Kai’s
@woahblackbettybamalam
2 ай бұрын
Sure Phil wins in the traps, but Kai is crushing Phil in the lats
@Supersetman
2 ай бұрын
yep
@JohnSmith-eo2yx
2 ай бұрын
Yeah, definitely an interesting comparison from behind. I ultimately prefer Phil’s back because it feels more complete, but Kai has his own strengths
@mlikoipura
2 ай бұрын
The difference in the traps is bigger than in the lats
@iva00005
2 ай бұрын
Plus, the over all shape on Phils back is better
@rsiksUser
2 ай бұрын
Kai lats are so superior to Phil’s. Just look where they tie in. No way in hell he loses rear lat spread. The traps aren’t supposed to be the focal point in this pose and if u have a really wide flare the traps should retract to an extent. The only reason Phil’s don’t is because he doesn’t have a wide flare in his lats. There must be a significant wedge in the back. There is no case for Phil winning this pose. Bdb is the pose for analysing trap thickness and separation amoung other back areas. That’s why we have that pose.
@peterpartridge3612
2 ай бұрын
Nothing beats the 98 Olympia and I don’t think anything ever will. The whole top 10 was full of all time greats
@earthwormjim3269
21 күн бұрын
99 Olympia was just as good, if not better.
@devinaxtman6171
2 ай бұрын
Kai's side tricep I always felt he never showcased that back piece of his tricep the way he poses it fades away.
@nox3834
2 ай бұрын
Amazing job once again man! Easily my favourite bodybuilding channel on KZitem!
@Supersetman
2 ай бұрын
I appreciate that!
@nishasalin6094
27 күн бұрын
Loved the analysis .Can you please 🥺 make a video on flex wheeler and Shawn ray comparison based on the Olympia training vedios . They are high-quality vedios and has good lighting unlike the Olympia competion. Even though they aren't conditioned like in the Olympia but all details can be seen due the video being taken at end of the prep , just 1 week before the competition
@ElderRaceofMan
2 ай бұрын
10:33 those feathered quads in the side shots on Kai are nuts. His upper body is holding his own as well. . The have very different arm shapes and bellies, but both guys have size and detail to spare. Even their pecs and delts are about even. No clear advantage on either. I call this pose a draw. If Kai has won this I would not be feel Phil was robbed or anything. Both guys looked incredible.
@pwhitty3210
2 ай бұрын
First time finding your channel, and I love this content. Would love to see more Olympia reviews
@sasquatchrick5462
2 ай бұрын
I think that one of the things that Phil has in his favor that not a lot of people point out is just how symmetrical his physique is. Not to say that Kai suffers in this area but there are a few shots where either the way he holds the pose, or the details in his physiques allow the most minor flaws in symmetry to be exploited by Phil.
@carguscargus6596
19 күн бұрын
A fost o generație super,toți erau niște personaje fantastice,și sportivi fenomelai ,recomand generayion iron
@insanezain2
Ай бұрын
i cant decide who's got the better package. insane. this was the last time the Mr. O was exciting
@cormacryan500
2 ай бұрын
I agree with your top five bodybuilders. I think it would be 1. Ronnie, 2 Dorian, 3 Phil, 4 Kai, 5 Jay Cutler
@luisalberola8419
2 ай бұрын
Haney? Arnold? Kai does not make it into a top 5, and I would argue he is not in the top 10 either
@cormacryan500
2 ай бұрын
@@luisalberola8419 on pure physique alone, if Kai was on stage with Arnold and Haney he would destroy them. He’s so much bigger and conditioned. I’m talking about the best ever bodies
@SergioHernandez-ik8nb
Ай бұрын
i just thought of good side by side comparison/analysis: Jean Pierre Faux 1994 World Amateurs vs Chris Bumstead.
@Bb0yTaiOne
2 ай бұрын
Surprisingly although I think Phil is the more complete bb, I have Kai winning more of the poses. FDB, FLS, SC, A&T and arguably even the BDB, going to Kai.
@troy8613
2 ай бұрын
I know you’ve got a list as long as your arm. But could you at some point do Dorian vs Levrone in the 1994 German GP?
@jounikaikkonen6911
2 ай бұрын
Good stuff! Any possibility of a Kai vs all post-Heath Mr. Olympias or maybe Blitz videos of Kai vs Big Ramy, Kai vs Hadi, Kai vs Derek... maybe even Shawn? I know I can go check out Supersetman Archives (thank you for that).
@jounikaikkonen6911
2 ай бұрын
I'm asking because I'm wondering if peak-physique Kai would have won Mr. Olympia in the recent years, after Phil Heath.
@Supersetman
2 ай бұрын
I will do this
@jounikaikkonen6911
Ай бұрын
This man is a national treasure!
@FinalCurse
2 ай бұрын
great video!
@Supersetman
2 ай бұрын
Which Mr. Olympia event do you want me to revisit next?
@LevyMorFit
2 ай бұрын
jay vs victor 2007
@MichaelHernandez-mv7on
2 ай бұрын
Nasser vs Dorian 97
@kasperisaukkonen
2 ай бұрын
1990 Haney vs Labrada (Labrada led after prejudging)
@ronaldmccutcheon1329
2 ай бұрын
@@kasperisaukkonenI was there. Haney had very weak arms and legs. I was certain that Labrada would win.
@hopewellbongumusa6627
2 ай бұрын
Kai green was a great bodybuilder , he truly loved the sport and it's very visible on his physic
@Aminehordy
2 ай бұрын
These two are the Best bodybuilders of the last decade, nobody comes close to them nowadays.
@ExtremeMetalLIVE
2 ай бұрын
I have Kai winning the side chest. We have to remember that bodybuilding in about creating an illusion, and kai looks bigger and better despite having less denser arms in reality.
@patrick22014
2 ай бұрын
Man, Kai was so great! I don't think we ever had any bodybuilder close to these two since they stopped competing.
@julianlaffe150
2 ай бұрын
kai has top 3 best front lat in history
@rsiksUser
2 ай бұрын
You got a few poses wrong but overall U did a good job. Kai won this comparison but I remember Phil moving back in front during finals
@paulblake1164
2 ай бұрын
1:42 Kai's Forearms let him down in the double back bicep pose 1:55 plus his tricep pose, where is his other shoulder? Bodybuilding is a sport of posing. If you are posing against your opponent and you aren't dialling in those poses while on stage, you could have the best bicep in the world, but if the other person has just got that slight advantage-and I've just pointed out two-if you concentrate and look at what you see on-screen, you will see the flaws and why Kai didn't win.
@The1greenWorld
2 ай бұрын
Phil's shoulders in the front lat spread and most muscular give him the slight lead in my opinion.
@Sthiwatari
2 ай бұрын
Yates 93 vs lunsford 23 back vs back 🦾
@cormacryan500
2 ай бұрын
Yates destroys
@aisac21
2 ай бұрын
I think phil only wins the arm and forearm in the side chest. Also, it s weird, but kai s arms look bigger than phil s in the bdb. Look at their right arms and tell me it doesn t seem like kai has bigger guns despite all of us knowing phil actually has the bigger arms no doubt😅
@sdonagmac2293
Ай бұрын
Kai definitely won the side triceps pose. So whichever way it went, it was a toss up
@sebastianboredal7486
2 ай бұрын
I would give Kai the side chest, the upper body is close enough for kai's superior side leg to give him the edge. But Phil still wins overall since his winning poses are dominant whilst Kai's are marginal. Shame Kai lost control of his midsection after this year.
@noonevincecarterfan
2 ай бұрын
I've got the same top 5. Marcus Rule, Big Ramy and Flex are close too, but those 5 are above evryone else.
@philliplabuschagne5508
2 ай бұрын
Kia looks like someone pushed his upper body into his glutes, Phill has a godlike physique vs mutant deformed Kia Green, never realised his traps were so under developed that gave him the inclusion of being wide but it made him looked deformed, so yes the judges got it correct when it comes to Mr Green
@ArtyomAnna
2 ай бұрын
Phil is so refined and 3d , Kai is like a hodgepodge of individual great body parts.. so yeah Phil takes it…
@luisalberola8419
2 ай бұрын
Kai might have the best lower lat development ever...
@DunkinBiscuits
2 ай бұрын
This was a great comparison video and i think i have to agree with your decision but damn this was as close to a draw as i think I've seen. Could you do a comparison video between Jay and Flex? Two completely different physiques i know but they both lost to Ronnies two best physiques (99/03) and i always wondered who would have won between them. Flex would have been crowned if not for Ronnie and Jay would have been crowned sooner if not for Ronnie.
@manduheavyvazquez5268
2 ай бұрын
Phil was elite, Kai never had opportunity. Kai was his best shape but his condition always was jelly condition.
@JackAndJimmy69
Ай бұрын
Kai's front latspread 🤤
@carrystyles9379
2 ай бұрын
if i was a judge, im the sweating shredder meme
@wild9091
Ай бұрын
I think kai's chest is whats holding him back :l He looks insane but he got unlucky with Phil's prime
@Sonicaceman
2 ай бұрын
Too bad he didn’t compete more he would have won an “O”
@corya3189
2 ай бұрын
Damn! Kai is beating Phil poses for pose hands down!! Wow!!
@buzztalk8223
2 ай бұрын
Both front pose to kai and both back to phil. Side tri to phil and side chest to kai. MM to phil and A&T to kai. Overall less flaws goes to phil.
@xaviermontalban717
Ай бұрын
In my opinion, Kai was definitely robbed of a Sandow
@AntonDMaria
2 ай бұрын
Phil more complete but you could give it to Kay. Ist almost 50/50 😅
@MurkyVP
Ай бұрын
I dont even have to watch this video to know this year is not the best year in mr Olympia
@Sthiwatari
2 ай бұрын
I am fan of both but I like heaths physique more
@Supersetman
2 ай бұрын
Kinda the same for me
@ethangilworth7891
2 ай бұрын
I like Phil better. Close matchup!
@sam88wise22
2 ай бұрын
Kai should have always hit a joined hands most muscular and never a crab most muscular 🤷♂️
@jessemarkopoulos6116
2 ай бұрын
Stop jumping around between poses. Just show them in order
@regford3572
2 ай бұрын
No sir Phil's side leg was not close. Side chest easily Kai's.
@vettakaaranmedia664
2 ай бұрын
Kai was robbed for sure. Phir is round....and beautiful ... But Kai was still better.
@user-fe4kh9tb2x
2 ай бұрын
phil
@robertdevito5001
2 ай бұрын
I really, really dislike Kais execution of the side chest. It just looks bad imo, despite how good each muscle group is.
@powerofme7144
2 ай бұрын
I want to know the official scores because I bet Phil won with perfect scores because that’s just how judges roll.
@badassmanale
2 ай бұрын
It was a perfect score. The only mr o phil lost a point in (except when he didn't win, of course) was 2015 where he had a 6 in prejudging
@powerofme7144
2 ай бұрын
@@badassmanale Thanks! Yep. No surprise he got perfect scores.
@LevyMorFit
2 ай бұрын
kai robbed
@Supersetman
2 ай бұрын
hmmm
@len6482
2 ай бұрын
Phil has him basically beat in every pose. Bias towards Kai was really bad this year. Everyone wanted Phil to lose so bad that they didn't take in how incredible he looked.
@chriss2811
Ай бұрын
Not bad, no question... but the best Olympia? No ! Best Olympians in 1999 were Wheeler, Coleman and Cormier 100%
@user-gj6pi7pj7c
2 ай бұрын
It's a known fact that Mr Olympia winners are the better poster boys, not the better athletes. I mean look at the current poor excuse of a "champ".
@Whiskyreviews
Ай бұрын
Kai demolishes Phil
@DatNguyen-hx6rb
Ай бұрын
3:07 short biceps with no seperation better than Phil , haha you need learn more about BB.
@TheLusianPopa
2 ай бұрын
Great contest but not even close to 93-99 Olympias
@kasperisaukkonen
2 ай бұрын
FDB Kai FL Kai SC Phil ST Phil BDB Kai BL Phil A&T Kai MM Phil
@gunukulanaren2957
2 ай бұрын
2015 would have been kai Greene's best
@Trengodeleite
Ай бұрын
Kia should have won this one
@sahan6996
2 ай бұрын
Phil is fuller
@InternetMunchies
Ай бұрын
I give kai the side chest
@WilliamLagakos
2 ай бұрын
Camaraderie among bodybuilders wasn't great at that show.
@driftytrinche
2 ай бұрын
First
@KhanhLe-zy1iy
2 ай бұрын
1999 is much better
@ashusingh842
2 ай бұрын
This is not phil best version 😢
@Supersetman
2 ай бұрын
There's always one smh
@MichaelHernandez-mv7on
2 ай бұрын
Can you do a video on what you think about Phil's 2010 Arnold Classic version when he lost to Kai. Tomn8er did one. I wanna see what you think about it thank you
@len6482
2 ай бұрын
Not sure, maybe an idea for a new video called "Phils Best Year" comparing him side by side. This olypmpia could be a sleeper, mid section looks so small and tight.
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