Here is the link to the Grand Seiko Giveaway! kzitem.info/news/bejne/jnt5zo59faF_faQ
@toddday2077
2 жыл бұрын
I was surprised you didn't mention the consistency of branding on the watch, which seems to be a major complaint by most reviewers. Now that the San Martin hex is not only on the bracelet, but the dial and the crown the consistency issue seems to be rectified. Great review though.
@balders952
2 жыл бұрын
This was my first Chinese micro brand watch, and I can say it is a lovely watch, up there with most entry-level swiss watches in terms of build quality and feel, except for the movement. (I own Tissot pragmatic 80 and a Hamilton Filed Auto to compare against) I wore the watch on holiday in the swimming pools and the sea, which looks amazing. At work, I had colleagues with Tags, Tudor black bays and other luxury brands commenting how nice the watch is for the price point. I paid around £250 which is a bargain. I do feel the logo does give an instant vibe of a cheap Chinese brand; I prefer the italic myself and wish I had requested it instead of the logo badge one.
@williamsipe1151
2 жыл бұрын
Version 2 is my favorite. I really like the applied indices of the version 3, but not enough to give up the riveted bracelet and live with that second hand.
@richardseaton6390
2 жыл бұрын
Great to see another video this morning and to see the invisible baseball bat return 😊
@mrmagoo.3678
2 жыл бұрын
lol.. Just spotted the swing as I read that
@MyNameIsAgni
2 жыл бұрын
Really disappointed to see that they aren't offering V3 with the cursive font logo on the dial! The hexagonal logo looks a bit too modern and clean-cut for a vintage inspired watch like this.
@kellypaws
2 жыл бұрын
The hexagonal logo isn't nice generally, in my view. I think they're responding to pressure to focus on one brand style offering. Sadly, the one I don't like at all.
@cameron4994
2 жыл бұрын
The hex logo looks so much nicer than the cursive. And now they use the same logo on the crown everything ties together. This watch is probably my second favourite watch next to my Seiko alpinist, it's been running under -0.1 seconds a day for several months, totally worth ignoring the logo if you don't like it 👍
@baronbristow8764
2 жыл бұрын
+1 on the cursive font. Hex logo doesn’t stew my prunes
@Ninono7878
2 жыл бұрын
They made a nice "SM" logo on some watches a couple years ago, it was my favorite. The cursive logo is not my taste just because San Martin is not a good brand name for a watch maker in my humble opinion. Spain never made watches, and the only spanish name in industry is Festina and...well...not good watches. At least not a the level of finish SanMartin wants to reach.
@jabezhane
2 жыл бұрын
Just a plain San Martin in a small font size would do. That huge logo on the strap just jars. I'd want to grind it off.
@normandbissonnette8865
2 жыл бұрын
Nice to see the evolution of this San Martin homage.
@ukdirector85
11 ай бұрын
Nice Gary as always brilliantly detailed review, I've just pulled the the trigger on a version 3 or 4 as of October 2023
@MyVideosWillCalmU
2 жыл бұрын
Gary I agree! This V3 is the only San Martin I have in my collection. I was the first one to order when it was realised. I was skeptical being the first. But every one praised V2 so high. I just pulled the trigger on the version 3. Your channel is the first I've seen review this piece. And I agree with this whole review. Thank you. 😎
@TheFranticgamer
2 жыл бұрын
I actually preferred the written San Martin instead of the logo. I don’t hate the new logo. I just thought the one on version 1 gave it a more retro sophisticated look. Thanks for the video. I am glad that you explained the difference because when I can buy my next watch, probably during the Christmas sale, I’ll get the v3.
@stevek3264
Жыл бұрын
I agree with you; I prefer the script instead of the logo. I emailed San Martin and for a $30 upcharge they will match the original V1 dial layout with the script San Martin and water resistance text. Worth it my my opinion.
@pannan80
2 жыл бұрын
Would have loved to try a Aliexpress watch but the prices has gotten way too high. If i wanted to buy the V3 here in Sweden,it'll cost $365. $200 is the most i would ever gamble on a china watch.
@TheFROG338
2 жыл бұрын
put my version 1 on a bond nato..looks nice and vintage.
@hectorsaez5866
2 жыл бұрын
Nice watch. I have the Bronze version. Now Im waiting for an 3-6-9 aplied on dial
@michaelcozens7537
2 жыл бұрын
When you’d doing your give away there’s a fella in Ireland trying to get his hand on some San Martins 👍
@RanmaSaotome12
2 жыл бұрын
Love the version 3 but it would be nice if they had a version with the nh35 movement and mercedes hands. These other movements make it too expensive for me haha
@jims4539
2 жыл бұрын
I have version 2 - the only option I like to see is no faux lume. Just white markers and hands.
@philliprackow7153
2 жыл бұрын
Gonna get this one in blue on black friday, first time i'll get the chance to use one of your links, and my Cronos subby arrives tomorrow 😱😁
@drwindsurf
2 жыл бұрын
I really like the "improvements" SM has made to this watch and thank you for this fantastic comparison between the versions. - though the hands, printed dial and rivet bracelet makes sense for this as an homage of the 6204/5.
@OwynDavies
2 жыл бұрын
I wish they'd make a modern Sub homage with these more compact dimensions
@ilikewatches
2 жыл бұрын
We live in hope!
@res00xua
2 жыл бұрын
I started early and bought a chronos before the sale. I plan to put all my non watch purchases for ali on your link. Best to you Gary!
@tornagawn
2 жыл бұрын
Beautiful vintage style
@holokron1337
2 жыл бұрын
There is one more thing, and if they do that it will be the best EVER watch on Aliexpress. Imagine if it had a glidelock system 😍
@somfortiwan
2 жыл бұрын
Yeah I kinda gave up on San Martin after I bought the version of this watch with the screw down bracelet. Two of my screws were permanently stuck and when I tried asking for help it was a real hassle. I sent them what didn't work for me, I sent them which were stuck and which I needed as a replacement (because they were part of the tapering sides, I needed more than the two that were stuck), I added pictures with dimensions as well... After some stock replies back from them, I gave up on them, never again. The watch itself is great, with the new bracelet it's probably even better, but I threw it in the shelve of watches I'm not wearing any more.
@grahamliggat7193
2 жыл бұрын
Gary - and they sorted the branding out too! At least it’s consistent with the hex logo on dial, clasp and crown. I think I have text logo on dial, hex logo on clasp and a shark or $ on crown on mine! One further improvement for me would be a capped second hand. V best G
@sinjinadams2862
2 жыл бұрын
They are all beautiful watches but my favorite would have to be the V1/V2 with pencil hands because this is closest to the original 1954 watch. The new V3 with applied indices and new bracelet looks like a modern interpretation of the 1954. Yes, it's a beautiful watch but if I could only have one, I'd prefer the look of the classic. Or better yet, why not buy them both 😁
@felo6035
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you Gary, this is absolutely a terrific watch, and by far the best version. I wish SM would offer a Miyota 9000 series movement which I would prefer over the PT5000, and would not be as expensive as the SW200.
@madsdrastrup
2 жыл бұрын
I feel like this watch deserves a deserves a glossy black black, like the real gilt dial subs from the 50's. Also still not convinced about the ceramic bezel on this one - at least the bezel font should be less yellow. But I'm still on the verge of buying the new version. I was very happy with the original version 1, but I couldn't settle with the watch trying to be both super vintage with yellow lume and modern with a ceramic bezel at the same time.
@TinBin-Craig
2 жыл бұрын
version 3 for me really like it .... cheers
@robcammell1069
2 жыл бұрын
You do know there are lots of other brands other than San Martin,would be good see some other watches reviewed
@tonyd223
2 жыл бұрын
Like the idea of a subjective best of homage list... SN019?
@jwags24
2 жыл бұрын
Not a fan of the reflective bezel insert or blue AR. They make the Watch look cheap instead of vintage.
@marcuscarlgren6994
2 жыл бұрын
Loving all the San Martin content 😊😊
@doncady9874
2 жыл бұрын
more to it than it first appeared.details do make a difference
@dougnemeth5249
2 жыл бұрын
I’m chasing a bronze watch but worried about the sticking of the bezel.... so looking to buy a polite watch?
@Me-pz5by
2 жыл бұрын
Nice watch and video, but should be over 40mm for me.
@jefferyneu3915
2 жыл бұрын
Nice review Gary! Not much to gripe about with this one!
@XjohnjohnX88
2 жыл бұрын
It's a fantastic watch for sure! Unfortunately I can't afford it, but it's on my wishlist.
@tacticaltimeteller126
2 жыл бұрын
I really wish they made this in a 40mm version. There must be a ton of people with tiny wrists, though. A watch with a bezel under 40mm is just too small in appearance on my 7.25” wrist. The dial is too diminutive when there is a bezel around it.
@shanephillips8735
2 жыл бұрын
I prefer the V1 🤷♂️
@ChrisAlvarezAlvarezImaging
2 жыл бұрын
Love your videos man! So my opinion on these San Marty's is, well, its a Tudor BB58 case isn't it. I just think it would be better with a thinner bezel like an actual Tudor. Those thick-toothed bezels work better on Seikos IMHO.
@timloftus69
2 жыл бұрын
Based on your opinion I just purchased my first watch on Ali-express and am not sure when to expect it to arrive here in Texas. Do you know what the shipping time to the US usually is? This is my first San Martin and am excited to try one. One small issue was that the website said that the final price before taxes was $171 and at checkout the best price I could get was $ 174.50. Not a dealbreaker but a little odd. Thanks for all the analysis as I just recently found your site.
@larrydalton2205
2 жыл бұрын
I have the version 2. I have bought several San Martin watches and if you bought from the San Martin Official Store it is usually around 3 weeks give or take to my home in Texas. Just hope it doesn't get delayed in Chicago customs like something I bought from the UK on the 9th of August. I haven't had this issue with San Martin shipments.
@timloftus69
2 жыл бұрын
@@larrydalton2205 OK. I hope you are right. Thanks.
@Mgoblagulkablong
2 жыл бұрын
What do you think of the brand "Minutetime"? They have some intersting dial designs.
@wastedaga1n
2 жыл бұрын
Black lacquer dial? That would set it over the top.
@caddermeran
2 жыл бұрын
Gary, my guy, can are you able to link the cronos explorer watch? That's what I want to get but it's like to go through your channel, buddy. Cheers
@Mbuna92
2 жыл бұрын
Shame it doesn’t have quick adjustment on the clasp
@TheFROG338
2 жыл бұрын
loving version 3 with pencil hands..brezel sound much better, might have to look at sw200 one.
@kalashnikov98
2 жыл бұрын
Hi gary, i saw your video on the two baltany watches, one of which had the linen dial is deleted, any chance of a reedit and upload, i really like those watches and wanted a rewatch haha!
@S-Ltd1000
2 жыл бұрын
I have the v1 second hand with v2 links?!🤷♂️ I'm going to pickup some female links in the sale but to be honest I can't see them making much difference on an average wrist size as the watch is small enough with a 38mm case. The V3 has some nice upgrades but I still think they have refined it to a point where it loses some of the vintage aesthetic, especially with the omission of the rivet style bracelet. Fortunately for now the older one is still available and imo is the better value option at under £200. Whatever the version it is one of the best they've ever released and a favourite of mine.
@andysearle4457
2 жыл бұрын
The brownish lume is my slight disappointment with my V2 - it seems to be whiter in photos and videos than real life but I can live with it! Must admit I prefer the script logo and the riveted links (even if it was a bit fiddly to adjust) as they both give a better 'vintage' vibe. Also isn't the lume pip only right at the end of the second hand with the straight hands? My V2 has Mercedes hands and the pip is in a bit as shown on your V1.
@jimron9008
Жыл бұрын
my wrist is a bit less than 7 inches, 17.5cm on the bone, I'm a bit concerned about the short lug to lug, do u think it will wear ok? my smallest watch is a seiko 5 with 39.4mm d and a 47mm lug to lug and i think its on the limit of not looking small. thank u
@philspencelayh5464
2 жыл бұрын
How have other people fared in Aliexpress sales. So far I have bought three things, one was ok, one hasnt turned up and one was not as described and faulty with no resolution. The prices are tempting but....
@Happyfacehotwheels
2 жыл бұрын
One of the reasons why I like Aliexpress so much is that the possibilities are endless . Where else can you buy a watch and choose the components, you can even choose the name on the dial and still pay less than a mainstream watch.
@schaffelaer1902
2 жыл бұрын
Always in doubt of this watch due to the dial itself: it looks like a rather dull black to me. Any experience here?
@letsgobrandon5800
2 жыл бұрын
Are these truly water resistant or do you have to worry in water?
@scatterbrain9490
2 жыл бұрын
Bronze is nice
@paulhiggins8774
2 жыл бұрын
They didn’t improve the logo, why is it that dark colour? Should have left it as it was in version one. Why don’t they use the Miyota 9000 series, far better than the sw200 or at least as good as at a fraction of the cost. Why the blue AR coating, doesn’t look good with a vintage inspired watch. Still got a long way to go to compete with Swiss and Japanese watches especially at that price
@a_latyshev
2 жыл бұрын
Mine is on it's way :)
@mbontekoe3358
2 жыл бұрын
You clearly cannot change the GMT hand independently of the hour hand as you can with Rolex
@larsdragl670
2 жыл бұрын
Would be interested how this holds up against a higher end watch like your grand seiko. I know its not the same style but qualitywise i am interested.
@grahambawden4060
2 жыл бұрын
With regard to the original watch this was based on the version 1 was more accurate with the bracelet. The version 3 is no doubt a better watch all round but no longer a true homage, more San Martin's idea of how it should look. Superb watch all round though with the SW200 movement they become pricey for a Chinese brand even if they are the best brand. 👍⌚😎 Keep the videos coming Gary, nice to see the usual intro is back. 😄👍👍
@troynasello2085
2 жыл бұрын
I believe the lume pip at the end of the seconds hand is only with the pencil hands & is still available with the version 3 with pencil hands. It's because the first Rolex submariner with pencil hands had a similar seconds hand with the lume pip at the end. Just like the Invicta 1953.
@AlexanderB.
2 жыл бұрын
It's quite confusing if you want to choose the right watch from this collection. Actually I'm a bit sick of Mercedes hands. I strongly prefer the pencil hands and the lollipop second hand. I love how the little pip at the end sweeps around.
@fontyyy
Жыл бұрын
The watch has changed though hasn't it? V1 is "just" a flat out copy of the big crown 6538 Submariner, (i.e. the Dr. No, From Russia With Love, Thunderball, and Goldfinger James Bond/Sean Connery watch, loaned by producer Albert Broccoli, it was his personal watch because in the books Bond's watch "has to be a Rolex", the legendary striped Nato strap was allegedly borrowed from a camera man!). Hence painted on indices which have "gone" orange (cause that's what radium and tritium loom does), male end links (the crease isn't right, but the first link was odd and did cause it to look creased) Literally the only thing missing is the Rolex logo, Submariner text and it would be a pretty damn good fake. It even came with a Nato strap for the Dr No look, unfortunately not the right colours and not too narrow (Connery wore it with a 16mm strap in it's 20mm lugs). . But the new one isn't, that watch with the big crown, no crown guard and applied indices in white never existed. Whether that's good or bad is up to the buyer. Short of getting about £100k out for a nice condition 6538 or wearing an outright fake, the m1 (or mk2) is the best option for a "first four films" Bond "Rolex" rep
@thegorn
Жыл бұрын
The blue AR reflection kills me. Make that the 14th improvement in version 4! I also think the bezel writing is a bit yellow, and can be made more gold color - improvement 15.
@bevboakes8982
2 жыл бұрын
Hi Gary, I think you are knocking it out of the park with your baseball bat impersonations. Hopefully you will bat one of those SM watches my way on your fantastic giveaway videos soon. Keep on waffling catch up with you on your next video.
@jamesw5763
2 жыл бұрын
I just received my V3. Happy overall, but I think San Martin killed the vintage vibe when they ditched the Script logo. I'd also love to see San Martin offer a full Bronze Oyster style, or riveted bracelet. Nice job!
@KitWatch96
2 жыл бұрын
I own the V1 and it's my favourite watch. I think despite the things that have since been improved on, it's nearly the perfect watch. I also think the italic vintage styled script logo suits the vintage asthetic far better than the modern hex logo does. I only purchased it this year so it came with their new bracelet style, no shark logo on the crown and the new hex box. So you could call it a franken004.
@lloydmeadows3471
2 жыл бұрын
I'm not a fan of the improvements. I have the v1 and it's a superb watch. I like the printed dial. The text would be better if it was white though.
@S-Ltd1000
2 жыл бұрын
+1, I think they've over refined it.
@christospantazis6907
2 жыл бұрын
V3 much better qulilety !
@johndesmond1987
2 жыл бұрын
I have the first version of this watch, and I retrofitted it with the female endlink kit. I think the yellow lume looks very good with the gilt hands, and the watch is stunning on a Horween leather strap. The new one is also really good, but I can't justify having both. If San Martin were really on the ball, they would shrink the thickness a mm or so to accommodate the thinner PT5000 movement. Then I would buy a new one.
@RobinhoodarrowsRHA
2 жыл бұрын
I'm sold, sign me up! Lol What's on your wrist in this vid Gary?
@Olddirtytiger
2 жыл бұрын
You and Jason the watch guy are just dangling cake in front of a fat kid 😆😆 and I'm hungry 😁😁
@ianellwood10
2 жыл бұрын
Gary (or anyone else), do you have any idea why the lume pip on the seconds hand is SO DARN BIG on this watch??? I never see other watches with this quirk. It kinda looks a bit bigger than the applied indices. Why? I thought maybe the big R brand used to make large pip-ed seconds hand, but I haven’t seen any vintage references with this quirk.
@andrewmain8022
2 жыл бұрын
I think that each watch is homaging a different Rolex Submariner Gary. Regardless of version the NH35 is most similar to the Rolex ie low beat and when you pull out the crown and turn it clockwise the hands move clockwise a la Rolex.
@janihellberg6911
2 жыл бұрын
I own V 1,5, so the first on whitout the endlink crease and last link on the clasp hasen't got fake rivets. I had it customized whit my name, so no change selling it, still I'm thinkig buying the new one. To me, the great watch with nh36 is a bit of a disconnect. It deserves better movement.
@christospantazis6907
2 жыл бұрын
The ones who did buy v1 and v2 change to the new one ! It’s so much better in all ways ! San Martin improve quality in amazing ways
@sterlingarcher857
2 жыл бұрын
I get that people are obsessed with applied indices nowadays (much like bloody ceramic bezels) but the original idea and era behind this homage did not have or require those. This piece no longer really has any point.
@jabezhane
2 жыл бұрын
I just wish they would improve that logo. Keep it in the hexagon but just make it look neater.
@kws4e
2 жыл бұрын
There's still something to improve. The dial could be glossy.
@explained4242
2 жыл бұрын
Wish it had a date complication option. Otherwise it would be perfect for me.
@TheFROG338
2 жыл бұрын
i bought sn04 after your and jodys review...
@ruthessu
2 жыл бұрын
My of my, that bronze finish.......gorgeous
@Rob-H
2 жыл бұрын
V4 may be a GMT variant with the new Seiko movement, just a thought.
@fastlx13
2 жыл бұрын
I'd like to purchase V3 bracelet for my V1. Is that possible?
@simonbailey2151
2 жыл бұрын
Question: isn’t the bracelet on these an absolute nightmare to resize, or is that incorrect?
@stevenhershman2660
2 жыл бұрын
Can you get spare links for the bracelet ?
@Tobi_Jones
2 жыл бұрын
i prefer the riveted bracelet, it have a great vintage look that is hard to find.
@BongoManal
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for all your hard work. Love this channel!
@Watches_Anonymous
2 жыл бұрын
V1 at least it's a better lume colour match with the bezel. The v3 lume like looks green! Happy with my v1 with FEL. Also NH35. Which is SOLID. I've had several issues with San Martin PT5000 movements, zero with any NH35. Actually I have many time more NH35's in my collection than PT5000'S too, so statistically they're shining there too.
@richarddsmarais3865
2 жыл бұрын
Still prefer the 005 GMT... btw, the movement jumps in 1/2 hrs increments as opposed to the cheaper Hangzhou found on Pagani ant the likes that jumps in 1 hr increment (and is often misaligned...) Just my 2 bits, Cheers
@kellypaws
2 жыл бұрын
Is the SW200 worth it? My Cronos has a PT5000 ad so far it is giving my Eco-Drive Citizen a run for its money for accuracy. Astonishing. I've never had an ETA or Sellita, which was that accurate. Ever.
@troynasello2085
2 жыл бұрын
Anytime I get a watch with a pt5000 or sellita with a ghost date position, I change out the setting lever jumper spring with a 2 notch one so there's no ghost position. It's not hard, but you have to remove the dial & hands & know where to get a new setting lever jumper spring. It makes the watch so much better.
@AdAce21
2 жыл бұрын
Love the V1 (the bracelet is a pain in the ass to size, but I prefer the way that it looks; it adds that uniqueness). I just got the V3 in bronze, and it is a killer watch!!
@juniorjohnson5961
2 жыл бұрын
Gary sell me the version Two please 🙏 I don't like Mercedes hands especially on homage watches not a fan of them on Rolex either !
@juniorjohnson5961
2 жыл бұрын
What's your email I forget?
@juniorjohnson5961
2 жыл бұрын
It sucks you can't get version 3 with the with the fancy writing not a fan of there logo badge
@jacc88888
2 жыл бұрын
Not a fan of bronze watches but this v3 of the bronze looks awesome. I actually prefer it to the stainless steel version.
@barryvercueil2346
2 жыл бұрын
Stunning watch. Personally I prefer the 40mm version. Cheers
@davidalvarez5929
2 жыл бұрын
An extremely nice watch. Fit and finish seems as Good or better than many watches costing 10 times the price.
@brianmurphy8154
2 жыл бұрын
I would've liked to have seen a capped seconds hand, but yes they did do a lot of improvements
@a_latyshev
2 жыл бұрын
Also a possible room for improvement, lume pip on the bezel in the same brighter lume as on the dial.
@jersaunders3538
2 жыл бұрын
Great review and a great watch thank you ☺️.
@daynevickers1079
2 жыл бұрын
I own two SN004's, a V2 with the leather dial and, just recently, the SN004 'Limited Edition' with the snowflake hands. IMHO, the Limited edition is the bomb. I purposely chose it due to it having the snowflake hands, as well as the NH35, which I actually prefer over the PT5000 (of which I own two SM watches with this movement). I absolutely love it, and agree that SM would be hard pressed to improve this watch any further. That being said, I'm going to add the blue dial version of the Limited Edition to my harem very soon!
@funkaholic1972
Жыл бұрын
I just ordered the blue one and am contemplating buying the black one too. This limited edition is very nice indeed!
@dazzlerjohnwatchman8215
2 жыл бұрын
This watch is definitely one to consider from AE. I too love the Seiko movement in preference to a swiss ETA. The only thing I would say is it looks better on a leather strap!!!
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