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@rhymeswithwitches
9 ай бұрын
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@aliceversusangels
Жыл бұрын
Sometimes it just wows me that this business model is not blatantly against the law
@IsabellaLanter
Жыл бұрын
Hopefully someday we can get more restrictions on MLMs because it’s just aweful
@karenneill9109
Жыл бұрын
They let corporations get away with almost whatever they want. There are so many monopolies, shady pyramid schemes, etc etc.
@ayb480
Жыл бұрын
Unfortunately these MLMs lobby and donate to our politicians
@PixiePrinses
Жыл бұрын
Same! I don’t understand how they can just operate their business freely and openly without repercussions.
@jenniferstewart9012
Жыл бұрын
@@PixiePrinsesit's free will nobody forces dum dums to join
@maryeckel9682
Жыл бұрын
As a person with an art background, i find the idea of anyone matching a foundation for me without being right there ridiculous. It's not possible.
@yuki97kira
Жыл бұрын
Agree.... Lighting and surroundings change the tones. I look different when im outdoor and indoor, i look different under white and yellow lights. Pictures just cant cut it
@ElizabethT45
6 ай бұрын
Definitely. There's a video I love watching of a woman having powder foundation custom blended at a department store in the 50s. The lady mixing the foundation kept looking back and forth between the customer and then putting in a little more peach, a little more lavender, a little more mint green. I never realized that all those 'color corrector' shades are just the shades that are already in the foundation.
@Gyaradosage
Жыл бұрын
I work at a makeup store and have tons of experience with color-matching since I’m a weird shade myself. There’s literally no way to shade match someone if they’re not physically in front of you. I have to ask people how their shade changes through the seasons, i ask if they deliberately tan at all, I look at how their tone changes in different lighting, I look at how their face/ neck/ upper chest skin tones all look together, and I use all of that to make decisions on what shades MIGHT work. Then I have to test the shades on their skin because everyone’s skin is different and every product is different. You have to have training to know how these work. If you put a neutral toned concealer on someone who is naturally more rosy, you can make their skin look dead. A picture won’t tell you that. Someone who doesn’t have actual makeup experience and training with colors won’t know that.
@maryeckel9682
Жыл бұрын
And we change color with the seasons, even with sunscreen. I'm a pale neutral (not blue, not yellow, not orange) in winter, then I get a little more pinkish in the summer.
@shanel4294
Жыл бұрын
love this comment, havent started my make up journey but noting this for when I do
@elizabethcrossley6853
Жыл бұрын
Bingo
@elizabethcrossley6853
Жыл бұрын
@@shanel4294if you want to do it as a job please get proper education. There is so much that you dont realise goes into it. I can tell who has had accredited education and who hasnt when i watch them work.
@SourEggz
Жыл бұрын
Yeah. That is what we are paid to assist people with - I can’t even guarantee something with just looking at the bottle when we don’t have testers… undertone maybe? 🫠🥲
@koinijikoimizu
Жыл бұрын
*spots that 'full face' Seint bundle and gasps in horror*💀💀 For $300 I could buy two of everything to do a full face from ELF, Beauty Bay or NYX and have enough cash left over to actually afford to go out for a meal. Are these people insane?! Good points about the color lighting and I have so many Adept Cosmetics double sided magnetic palettes. Kinda wild in a good way to see someone else using them.
@SebastianSeanCrow
Жыл бұрын
$300 for a bundle… hell that’ll go far at MAC even.
@susabobus
Жыл бұрын
Or Charlotte Tilbury essentials
@brandielynn8211
11 ай бұрын
@@SebastianSeanCrow I respectfully have to disagree. MAC cosmetics price point is way higher and $300 will not get you much. This being said the quality of makeup is far more superior than SEINT but you have to compare apples to apples and that my friend is comparing apples to oranges, just saying🤷🏻♀️
@brandielynn8211
11 ай бұрын
@@susabobusSame as my 26:22 comment about MAC 👆-Charlotte Tilbury makeup is a far better product but comes with a much higher cost. SEINT is a much more affordable option however the quality of the product is not even close to that of CT. You have to make an equal comparison.
@yepimonyoutube
10 ай бұрын
@@brandielynn8211I can buy about 5 if I go wild products from either brand at sephora with discounts and do a full face easy on that and have left over. I build full faces all the time for people lol and I can mix colors and go all out. And there bundle is not a good deal at all. And I'll make sure you leave with mascara and brows. 😂
@nikkikoz4720
Жыл бұрын
I get so sad when an influencer I liked starts selling seint because there's no way I trust them on anything anymore. They're willing to throw me under the pyramid to make money.
@robyn3071
Жыл бұрын
I had someone with lime light tell me I was olive. I died. I’m fair with cool tones. I was like no girl. I pass
@IsabellaLanter
Жыл бұрын
Omg nooooo! 😂😂😂
@djekwodn3747
Жыл бұрын
not saying they were right and you’re wrong, but it IS possible to be a fair cool olive!! (according to reddit lol)
@ghoultooth
Жыл бұрын
@@djekwodn3747 I am a fair cool olive, I lean on the rosier side but my undertones are still greenish but lean a little colder. I’m also as pale as a dead body. So yeah it exists :)!
@jengregory6764
9 ай бұрын
You CAN!! I did!!
@alexbaily9678
Жыл бұрын
Ugh, I love watching that girl who’s a private investigator tell stories on tiktok, but she always does it while doing her makeup with this mlm. And whenever someone asks what the pallets are, she gets to make sales. It’s hard to trust a creator who promotes an mlm in every single video.
@addhandlehere
Жыл бұрын
Lol same!!!!
@courtneylightsalazar3063
Жыл бұрын
Yessssss I loved her videos and didn't pay attention to what makeup she was using, but when she mentioned it was seint I unfollowed.
@alyssakorioth67
Жыл бұрын
For the color matching, most of the time, “artists” just send the color match photos in your up line group text and people give their opinions on what color it should be 😂
@callmeifyougetlost2079
Жыл бұрын
Omg 😆
@reneef4740
Жыл бұрын
I got roped into this dumb company a couple years ago- that is Exactly what happens. A huge group text with tonnes of “customers” pictures and just guesses about colour matches
@lia9214
Жыл бұрын
I love the way you break down information and just the vibes of our videos. Its like an older sister hanging out with you and telling you what scams to watch out for
@IsabellaLanter
Жыл бұрын
Thank you 🥹 that makes my heart so happy! That’s always my goal! To make it fun and feel like we’re hanging out
@montananerd8244
Жыл бұрын
Lol in my case, it's like a young niece warning me what to watch out for! Very helpful & entertaining content :)
@margot64fern
Жыл бұрын
I’ve clicked on a lot of Seint content because I’m old and a lot of these ladies Target my age group. They don’t really disclose themselves upfront, but I recognize those gross dirty smudgy palettes now, and don’t click anymore.
@gnifel3841
Жыл бұрын
i am not on tiktok and don't know most of the mlm/scams you talk about, but there's just something about your energy and the way you explain things that i loooove.
@IsabellaLanter
Жыл бұрын
That makes my heart so happy omg thank you 🥹 I’m so so glad you’re here!
@peachxtaehyung
Жыл бұрын
Same Isabella seems like an amazing person and so sweet I wish we could be friends lol but I don't want to be weird
@IsabellaLanter
Жыл бұрын
omg its not weird at all! I love y'all I consider you guys my internet besties and family
@Blukaleidoscope
Жыл бұрын
They have completely invaded the makeup groups on social media. They prey on beginners. Also, if you are a brand built on customization, why wouldn't you let your representatives customize their kit for their potential customers? That's more matches for higher sales. If I wanted to target women of color who typically have challenges finding matches, I would want to customize a kit for a wide range of tones that would give me the highest amount of potential matches for this demographic....so gross
@hair2show1031
3 ай бұрын
I’m going to message you! THE TELL TALE SIGN!!! I saw them on makeup groups trying to make a sale and I was the BIG OLE Karen puttin’ their arse in CHECK and warning their “target”.
@sabrinadavis8355
Жыл бұрын
Sadly, I got roped into this MLM in 2017 when it was still known as Maskara. It looks SO PRETTY but when I received my starter kit let me tell you... it was a mess and didn't work at all on myself or during the "demos" I'd have to do. It was embarrassing. They also had a cure-all goat milk skin care face cream thing and I used it in the hopes of fixing my eczema and LOL my dumbass just got even more broken skin 😂 totally all on me but yeah. I did not have an upline, I signed up on their website and when I wrote to admin/customer service about the issues with the caking/poor color choice and me breaking out it was basically a "sounds like a you problem" response.
@peachxtaehyung
Жыл бұрын
Oh they have changed their name?! I didn't know that
@LG-zg8mw
Жыл бұрын
I used to follow her too!! She had a blog with amazing before/after make up transformations, and I remember thinking that palette was all I needed to change my life. I’m glad being a broke student kept me away from it.
@sava-smth
Жыл бұрын
It's always customer problem with mlms lol!
@MrMyspacepimp
Жыл бұрын
if you haven't found a good cream for eczema, Lush's dream cream works really well for mine! 😊
@Jess1013
Жыл бұрын
These prices are unserious when Inglot has been here for years with this exact same concept and FAR less expensive. I need them to be so fr.
@xErinxx
Жыл бұрын
Only a minute in, but yeah I assumed they were an MLM just from how the people using them present them. No one who is honestly simply reviewing a makeup product or doing a tutorial will highlight so many pros, emphasize how eassyyy it is to use, etc with absolutely no negative information (not even sharing the price or company unless dmed in a lot of cases). Seemed shady af
@nitarose44
Жыл бұрын
My kids' babysitter sells this stuff. Poor girl's Facebook is non-stop cringe ads. The before and after application shots are identical.....except a bit more glittery and shiny.
@IsabellaLanter
Жыл бұрын
Its so heartbreaking! Ugh!
@JadeSaintRose
Жыл бұрын
I bought this a few years ago before I knew it was an MLM from an instahun. I got my palette and my color match was so yellow I looked deathly ill. Messaged the girl about it and she advised I buy the 35 dollar brush for “better application”. I did it and still looked wild 😂 plus it broke me out something FIERCE ❤ thank you for talking about this scam!
@sjensen183
Жыл бұрын
I told my best friend not to buy their stuff bc it's an MLM but she did anyway. She spent $150 on that dang palette. I helped her apply it and omg the creams looked SO heavy on the face and clung to dry patches on the lips. About 3 hours in she scratched her face and the foundation literally smeared everywhere their setting powder does nothing. She had streaks all over her face, it was insane. Luckily she was able to return it all.
@hannah_marie8462
Жыл бұрын
I have a friend who used to do Seint and she was TERRIBLE at color matching. A lot of the “artist” I see on social media are definitely wearing the wrong shade!
@TiffanyG8675309
Жыл бұрын
A hairdresser I follow on TikTok started raving about some new makeup she started using and she couldn't wait to show us. She purchased it from her friend, blah blah blah. When it came in, it was a huge case of Seint. A bunch of us were like oh honey noooooo. She deleted every post anyone made about it being an MLM. Then made another video about how she likes the makeup and she's gonna keep buying it whether we like it or not. 😂
@addhandlehere
Жыл бұрын
I watched a "professional" makeup artist months ago on KZitem. She almost yelled at her followers for coming to her for a color match but ordering from someone else. Red flags for days.
@sydney88888
Жыл бұрын
I wonder if it’s who I’m thinking of haha
@MollyFC
Жыл бұрын
Now I'm curious lol
@kcloud1186
Жыл бұрын
Who is it?? 😅
@MrMyspacepimp
Жыл бұрын
who?? 😳
@brittneybabeee4031
8 ай бұрын
Please share the name so I can make sure I don’t support them!!
@user-zs2dw1cg7y
Жыл бұрын
I bought a palette after a very insistent person messaged me. I’m tanned in my pfp but I’m very fair and I have pink undertone, they colour matched me to something yellow and way too dark , everything is too dark in the kit I purchased and I was told that if I didn’t like it they could exchange it but the “artist” was so pushy and tried to persuade me that I looked way better , way more alive , with darker makeup. She complained that I wasn’t going to like the light shades , she was right because it was light yellow when I received it. When I got the light shades they were patchy so she said that it was because it was too light and that was my fault and that I didn’t know what I was doing because I refused to buy the brushes. It’s wax based so it’s not very pleasant to wear or work with. It didn’t mesh well with my own products , high end , luxury or even drugstore so she tried to push me to buy a bunch of blushes that would be of “better” quality than my favourite ones. I was told to not wear my primers and my prep creams were to blame. It was a terrible experience and it was so expensive to be treated like I didn’t know anything and had no idea about trends or what looked good. She even tried to use the fact that I’m a Chechen living in America as a reason why I’m not up to trends… they turn on you as soon as they have your money. It’s the last time I give someone a chance when they message me to buy their garbage.
@emmatibbitts424
Жыл бұрын
Thank you for doing SEINT! I have a friend who keeps trying to recruit me. I don't see ANY difference in the makeup before and after. I feel bad that she got sucked in, but it's great being validated in knowing that I need to steer clear.
@yanaegg
Жыл бұрын
I’ve had a hunch that these pallets were some sort of mlm/scam for a LOOONNGGG TIME!!! Now I finally have some closure! 😝
@aphreyst4551
Жыл бұрын
I truly dislike how MLMs tell their victims that they can have LOTS of downtime for life and family (unlike normal, 9-5 jobs); but once someone is in and not making any money all of a sudden they're told that because they're not hustling 24/7 they're a failure!
@mysdate
Жыл бұрын
salt new york makeup. you can get the palette fully customized plus any five shades from any category of skin you want when you use their palette builder. 80usd. totally refillable and reusable. from what i can see, way more product than the seint pans but seint doesnt list net weight in their product descriptions, we love transparency. salts existed for a while in the like low waste/more eco friendly beauty sphere, idk why they never blew up more. theyre a good solid choice for quality refillable cream makeup
@Aestethe
Жыл бұрын
No! I use to watch this one lady on the clock app and thought it was a little sketch how hard she pushed this product as her own. My MLM-bs meter was definitely going off😂 glad you are showing this!
@samanthahuryk9681
Жыл бұрын
I used to buy from Seint. That’s actually what first got me into anti-MLM. The rep I was buying from asked me to host a party and it gave me bad vibes so I looked into it more. Stopped buying after that! To be honest I liked the foundation but it was so expensive for not much product. Nothing else was any good at all lol
@ThatgayboyTJ
Жыл бұрын
Makeup forever has great cream products in palletes and I’m sure lots of other brands do as well
@abbyc.4458
Жыл бұрын
This is crazy! I used to watch Cara’s videos on KZitem literally ages ago, she had really great content teaching makeup application! 10 years ago maybe? Around this time she was increasing in popularity and came out with her first launch of this brand, fka mascara and before it became an MLM. She stopped putting out content as much so I lost interest, but she showed up on my FYP a little bit ago and I hardly recognized her because of the amount of work she’s had done! I’m not anti plastic surgery, but it was just interesting. She used to seem so chill and down to earth. Come to learn they’ve rebranded and went the mlm route 😬 Also, the color match “offer” is a scam in itself to get you in contact with the seller so they can try to rope you in 😬
@abbyc.4458
Жыл бұрын
Also! TikTok has rules against promoting MLMs! But if they’re just using it while talking about other stuff they work around it!
@efolinsky
Жыл бұрын
Masksara was the old name and it was definitely still an mlm
@abbyc.4458
Жыл бұрын
Yes that’s correct but when she very first launched it it was not yet an mlm
@brandonschalitz7948
Жыл бұрын
I accidentally bought it last year. Without knowing what it was and have actually really loved it. And I feel so bad for buying it twice now. But it is sooooo good and the best for traveling
@IsabellaLanter
Жыл бұрын
Hey if you love it that’s great don’t feel bad!! I just want to bring awareness for people that don’t know! I’m so glad you love it!
@_Laura.Marie_Sierra.Destiny_
Жыл бұрын
I’m sure you could find something similar that’s probably cheaper and just as good if not better
@aliciagreen5411
Жыл бұрын
No shame! You didn't know and that happens all the time with stuff from mlms, or businesses with less than moral practices in general. There's a ton of product and branding out there and you can't make educated purchases all the time. That's good you found a product that brings you joy.
@sarahbatchelor5387
Жыл бұрын
*cries* i love olivia reeves- she’s so entertaining and her anesthesia content. I had a FEELING about that palette she uses 😭 oh well
@callmeifyougetlost2079
Жыл бұрын
They say it’s cream, but it looks to have a consistency like wax?
@abbyc.4458
Жыл бұрын
It has a ton of wax in it I think 😬
@sarahyork11
Жыл бұрын
I believe most cream based products have beeswax in them
@whimsyrosie
Жыл бұрын
Thank goodness I came across this video. One of those pallet tiktoks came across my "for you" page. They were doing an ASMR type unboxing of fresh products. Something about it felt off and I didn't know why. The comments also felt off and I just didn't know why. I decided to just move on thinking I was crazy to feel this way. Then this video popped up, and wow I was right. Apparently I have some sixth sense about MLMs. Maybe because so many of my friends and family have joined them at some point or another that I just know the signs and am super wary. Also had a boss try to convince me to buy a starter kit for Young Living, and I was just mind blown at the audacity because they knew how much they paid me and yet still expected me to blow my entire paycheck on a starter kit. Like damn.
@TheWholeEntireCake
Жыл бұрын
6:05 Covergirl offers the same exact service on their website for color matching foundations and it’s WILDLY inaccurate. I reverse-checked it since I already have and use and one of their foundations that I know is my shade match. It gave me the worst shade “match” based on the photo they instructed me to take and pop into their program. It was so off that I couldn’t believe it. I tried it several more times with the same picture and it gave different shades every time! Don’t trust it 😂
@snrkybrd
Жыл бұрын
there was an mlm-video-sized hole in my heart this video filled. thank you.
@arcaderat1613
Жыл бұрын
I clicked on this video because the thumbnail made me think of a creator I follow for her stories who does her makeup with a cream pallet. I see her do GRWM videos and giveaways but never watch them because I'm not interested. Yep, checked her descriptions and it's Seint. Her makeup always looks nice and I was considering looking into what she used but glad I noticed this.
@lavoiejulie
Жыл бұрын
I have been anti-mlm when there was only like 2-3 views on mlm's, so I am VERY anti mlm. I have a few huns on my instagram and even thought I know they are making close to $0 I can see how people fall for this. They talk like they are living the life, they are not. I know of what is actually going through friends. It's scary if a persons like me, who is very anti mlm" feel "called". It's scary out there!
@suzinaccache
Жыл бұрын
Kat Fairchild who is at the tippy top, we've had really nice exchanges and she bought a necklace I recommended. She's really lovely. Shows you you can have differences about things but still get on ❤Great video ❤❤🎉
@RP_76
Жыл бұрын
My favorite Tiktoker who's an anesthesiologist pushes this, it sucks because she is funny af and relatable. MLMs suck lol. Edit to add Omg she's in the vid 😂
@hollyhill8400
10 ай бұрын
Isn’t she a CRNA
@JA-rh6wq
Жыл бұрын
Long time follower and fan! I hope you won't mind a slight clarification. People often conflate "data" with numbers, but data are any organized information that we can analyze to make decisions and inferences- that includes numbers and words. Your DMs ARE data, especially if you compile them and look for patterns among them- this is qualitative data. People often overvalue numbers as objective, but they aren't, as we can see from your discussion on averages. My sources are myself as I teach research methods in the social sciences to graduate students.
@nikkidarkangelpnope8400
Жыл бұрын
I am in the process of depotting a bunch of palettes so I can build my own smaller ones from my huge collection. I feel like doing this really helps with that FOMO on new palettes when I can create similar colour stories from my existing collection.
@TaylorDiamondTurtle
Жыл бұрын
i followed this one woman who shared her stories as an elementary school nurse and the other day realized she was part of this mlm and using the palette in every single one of her videos. all of my respect for her left. crazy
@Qooosey
Жыл бұрын
That’s exactly who I was thinking of when watching this …
@lagoss729
Жыл бұрын
I found her, too! The stories were so funny but I couldn't follow purely because of the MLM piece. It also seems a lot of these MUAs are doing this "storytelling" to go viral and then likely recruit. Which is sad because some of them are legit funny storytellers and could go somewhere on IG/TT without the MLM nonsense.
@francoisdisney8029
Жыл бұрын
I think she quit her job too. When this bottoms pit (as all of these do), she’ll wish she hadn’t left her job
@TaylorDiamondTurtle
Жыл бұрын
@@francoisdisney8029 yes i saw that! she seriously quit the job that got her recognized in the first place. she doesn’t have much content now other than promoting the MLM. i see it going down quickly
@chrisveshovski8025
Жыл бұрын
I see them all the time. I’m a MUA - and have worked for TF, Charlotte, Bobbi Brown, and others. I have SOO MANG issues. Why do their palettes that use in camera look filthy! They all use beauty mode and filters and I can see their cakey as* makeup! And colour matching online! No thank you. And I call them out all the time on their lives about TikTok’s policies and procedures and not allowing mlm products and I get blocked immediately
@PandaMonium92827
Жыл бұрын
Also, I did this with Avon. They blamed me, not making money because I was a teenager who couldn't invest in anything, and my parents wouldn't help me start up 😂
@smolbutmighty_
Жыл бұрын
I knew the first time I saw this pallet that something wasn’t right. Thank you for confirming my hunch!
@gigii2013
Жыл бұрын
What an actual missed business opportunity for something that could be good! Too bad they had to go the MLM route *shaking my head *
@blehblehblehdracula
Жыл бұрын
I recently encountered a seller in the wild. She never said a brand so I asked. She said. I explained I’m anti-MLM and wish her the best. She never registered it and later “reminded me” of a sale. It’s wild stuff.
@brendaradziwon-zapora4450
Жыл бұрын
I looked at their website, those pans are ridiculous in price and you get like VERY LITTLE PRODUCT in that little pan!!!! I'd rather spend $60 for 2 full sized IT Cosmetics pressed powder from QVC....lol... Used it for years and it works for me and lasts forever!!! I buy concealer, primer from drugstore.... Better products than this company!! Makeup looks too cakey to me!!!!🥰❤️
@shannonfloyd5998
Жыл бұрын
So a tin of Seint highlight is supposed to last 4 months at $16 a tin. My math comes to $64 a year , so seems to comparable as far as price point that you paying now.
@brendaradziwon-zapora4450
Жыл бұрын
@@shannonfloyd5998 I'm not talking about highlighter I'm talking about pressed powder foundation. There is no way those lil azz tins of foundation would last more than a month... It's wayyy overpriced for foundation that you use on your full face... Something like highlighter or concealer you use much less so that may last longer.... I just think it looks awful, cakey and there are soooooo many brands that are better out there for much less money . And your not supporting the awful way mlms take advantage of people.
@jengregory6764
9 ай бұрын
@@brendaradziwon-zapora4450They don’t have pressed powder foundation. It’s cream foundation, a little goes a lonnnnnng way.
@leel7168
Жыл бұрын
omg i remember when they were called “maskara” and my color match was so bad 😂
@jimmiesavage437
Жыл бұрын
How did people not learn in school that mlms are bad
@MollyFC
Жыл бұрын
What and cut into them recruiting kids right out of high school?!
@embemrose
Жыл бұрын
omg I’m so glad someone is talking about this! I saw a teacher blow up last year and she was holding her palette in the most uncomfortable way, but I was so curious. I knew it was a MLM when I saw all of her pinned videos were about the palette instead of all her 1mil+ liked videos… Glad I never bought it 😅
@BeTheMoo
Жыл бұрын
Isabella, if you see this, love love love you and your content!! I have been binging your videos and think you bring such sass, class, and much-needed education on MLMs and the clowns that run them. It's disgusting that they try to intimidate you into silence so they can take advantage of more naive, well-doers, but not surprising. You are a gorgeous soul that is helping others get out of those horrible places and they can't handle. Sorry for the rant, just really appreciate what you are doing.❤
@tigerkitten8352
Жыл бұрын
Admitting you HAVE to recruit to make $. That is just an admission of making money off of the downline.
@Taryn0405
Жыл бұрын
I love Olivia Reeve's content too. She cracks me up. I'm still following her, but try to ignore the make-up crap.
@crazychick16ify
Жыл бұрын
i know this was about make up but your giggle in the intro was so adorable and kind of the reason i stayed to watch lol
@MyDreamIsAStory
Жыл бұрын
I follow a KZitemr for years. I loved her. She was a doctor. But lately in the last few years she has been doing some shady stuff and supporting this brand is one of them. People spoke out about it and she just basically brushed it off and said she liked it and that is why she was using it. But it’s so shady that she was shilling this product when she already has a lot of money.
@mabbidy
Жыл бұрын
Omg! I forgot about this brand. There was a girl from my college classes that I had on Facebook that started selling for them and all the pictures she posted of her using the makeup looked SO awful. I felt so bad for thinking that, but it looked soooo bad. It just seemed so low quality. Last I saw from her, she posted how upset she was that no one was buying anything from her. I wonder if she’s still selling it
@hellenicblonde6117
10 ай бұрын
What are the other companies that allow you to build your own makeup palette with different types of makeup? Like the idea of a build your own palette but don't want to support an MLM.
@BetsyRene
Жыл бұрын
I've seen older ladies do this and it's so sad. The only people in their comments are team members.
@maryeckel9682
Жыл бұрын
Those muddy palettes look awful on older women.
@BetsyRene
Жыл бұрын
@maryeckel9682 yeah it's not a good look
@Kimberpls
Жыл бұрын
secret option 3: I just love watching your videos and enjoy your breakdowns on things, especially when I have NO CLUE what the company is about. You're very educational and informative.
@KatherineAnne
Жыл бұрын
I once commented on a Seint hun’s post that her makeup looks cakey and muddy…. She blocked me
@7ven7venty7venArtworks
Жыл бұрын
22:37 ohhh wooow 👀😳😂 I have *never* heard someone say the quiet part sooo loudly in training before lmao… ‘all the work you do is disposable bc this business model is dumb and about stepping on people sooo make sure you know what you’re getting into with sales!’ …Like wtf lady did you just hear yourself…?! 🤯
@weirdhousewivesclub
Жыл бұрын
That part, I had to listen to a couple times bc even tho I know that the whole business model is designed to screw people over, I was flabbergasted.
@katelyndorsey9485
Жыл бұрын
Fun fact: makeup artists dont have to have training so literally anyone can be a makeup artists in most states!
@gracea7757
Жыл бұрын
ohhh my god!! please review “melaleuca”. when i was 17 my stepmother had signed me up under her ‘business’ and i had NO idea what it entailed!! so so unethical
@dimitri4904
Жыл бұрын
I thought this brand was a scam because my mom bought a bunch of it. She always falls for these scams because they prey on insecure women who think a new product will fix their insecurities. I’m so tired of this with her and her constant shopping
@brittneybabeee4031
8 ай бұрын
I’m sorry you have to deal with the constant MLM invasions. But, I just want to pop in & say that I’ve been where your mom is. I haven’t fallen into MLMs a bunch, but I’ve spent many years using shopping to cope with my insecurities & I can promise you, it’s much, much deeper than just that. It took me a long time realize what I was doing because in my mind, I was going to feel happier & more secure if I bought this item & that item, & since I didn’t have the funds to do that growing up, it felt so good to go shopping after I just spent a week at work being miserable & hating myself. Retail therapy is real for many people, but the problem is that it’s a quick fix & not a solution & when you’re a mom, you spend 99.9% of your time focusing on your kid(s), keeping the household running, keeping bills paid, a partner if you have one, dealing with whatever & whoever at work, & more, so having something like shopping that makes you feel confident, happy, and like an adult who isn’t going crazy, can really seem like the perfect solution. & This isn’t exclusive to rich people because I am by no means rich, but I did learn how to get whatever we needed/wanted on a very tight budget. However, like I said, it’s just a bandaid & since no one ever talks about it & “retail therapy” is HEAVILY pushed in women’s circles, it can be very easy to quickly get lost. I say all that to say that, while I don’t know your situation or your mom’s, I do hope that can help give you some perspective. & It is possible for us to get better, lol. I may have read into your comment a bit much & could’ve just been projecting, in which case I’m very sorry, lol. But, if I related to your mom in any way, then I hope it helps you maybe slightly understand, but also maybe it can help her see it too, because she genuinely may not even realize it or may not realize that it’s a legitimate problem more than just “retail therapy.” Whatever it may be, I wish you both well!
@sasamafrass
Жыл бұрын
I see a lot of hair tutorials from Seint representatives. A lot of times they're really cute hair tutorials but then BAM there is the Seint makeup ☹️
@PlainSaraJane
Жыл бұрын
I just see a lot of their sellers deleting backlash comments or they lash out against the hate. It’s scary how aggressive the sellers are!
@risjenkins1467
Жыл бұрын
Please cover Optavia diet plans! A coworker promotes their plans and it seems so dangerous. I finally looked into it today and it’s just severe calorie restriction and forced positivity
@cozyg.1035
Жыл бұрын
My best friends mom worked for them back when they were still Maskcara. I remember her trying it on me and it was the worst makeup ever.
@margotchanning1822
Жыл бұрын
Im not putting 16 shades on my face
@shannahill7
Жыл бұрын
I comment on every single Seint video I see on Tiktok and report them LOL.
@elizabethcrossley6853
Жыл бұрын
Ive been waiting for this. Those women are wild. Theres one thats an absolute mess. Such a scam... crap quality... not allowed to do it on tiktok but they dont care. Also... that ladies dentist needs to be fired
@Ttlore
Жыл бұрын
I recently got a death threat from a MONAT girlie because I commented on a sale post on the local community page saying “don’t use unless you want your hair to fall out”
@mars4697
Жыл бұрын
The first seignt girl made me laugh! I know you picked it for a particular reason! Lol love it!
@IsabellaLanter
Жыл бұрын
Honestly she was just popping up on my FYP so often and I’ve seen her go viral for the palette so I figured it would be a great example of what I’m talking about lol!
@megenlindsey9112
Жыл бұрын
@@IsabellaLanter she’s literally a CRNA and i watched her and loved her for awhile and then my opinion on her TOTALLY changed when she started shilling SEINT in EVERY.. and i mean EVERY SINGLE tik tok she posted. it upset me as a viewer, her being a CRNA and caring for peoples lives only to turn around a scam people. :/
@mars4697
Жыл бұрын
@@IsabellaLanter if the shoe fits…😀😀 love your Chanel!so fun to see it growing so fast!
@shelikestuff
Жыл бұрын
I used to like her content, the crna, because I too am a nurse and when I realized it was an mlm I was very disappointed..
@jessicap7258
Жыл бұрын
I had a friend selling this back in 2020 and I had purchased a pallet from her. The makeup was decent but too many steps for me, however I continued using their lip & cheek product, really liked it until I discovered quite a bit of their product line has talc in it!
@jahbern
Жыл бұрын
Oh no! Are you allergic to talc? It’s in so many cosmetics it must be hard to avoid.
@Littlemsambitious
Жыл бұрын
I’ve been constantly trolling these people trying to sell these seint palettes along with making sure everybody knows they’re a mlm lol
@melanie1784
Жыл бұрын
Ive never heard of this company and im glad. Im not trusting any company that lets anyone become a make up artist that easy.
@sheskiwiw
Жыл бұрын
0:55 "im talking, people are starting to have a problem with this company because of the products" she knows how to get us old hats, who've seen it all, invested ahaahaah love it
@retrogirl2498
Жыл бұрын
I used to follow this private investigator on tiktok until I noticed she was using seint and he makeup looked so bad to me. Cakey, they don’t blend well, dry and the products have like no coverage
@cheryljust
Жыл бұрын
I know exactly who you're talking about. I loved some of her stories but then she started telling people to contact her for color matching.
@joybodelay9679
2 ай бұрын
An MLM is the business version of the videotape from The Ring. You have to pass it on and curse someone else with it, to avoid your own death.
@dm96177
Жыл бұрын
When I started seeing Olivia Reeves stuff pop up all over my FB, I knew this was MLM f**kery. Which is so odd because she’s a very successful CRNA 🤨
@amygunn3774
7 ай бұрын
A crazy thing about two of the ladies shilling this crap on TikTok: One is an anesthesiologist. She is super super smart but fell for this. Another is a PI. You would think she could figure it out!
@callingcolleen
Жыл бұрын
4:26 - why does she keep doing that with her mouth?! I’m more fixated on that than anything 😂
@stephaniek843
15 күн бұрын
@@callingcolleen same thing I was thinking.
@amsterlikewat468
Жыл бұрын
Saw a video on tik tok and immediately knew it was Seint! Looking in the comments and lots of people were commenting with the issues they faced with the makeup itself and couldn't make it work and how it was greasy etc and the lady said "try not using any primer or moisturizer" I was flabbergasted !
@EasterMegs
Жыл бұрын
Had this video on pause and my bf and i got into my car and it started on "most people make no money, DUMBASS" 😂
@StarWarsThrowbacks
Жыл бұрын
Omg noooo I had no idea it’s an mlm! I’ve been seeing so many videos about this brand and I wanted to try it 😵💫
@annapettit8045
Жыл бұрын
Makeup forever is a great option, and other cream makeup products from Sephora that won’t involve engaging with an MLM if you don’t want to purchase from one! Sephora also has color matching services and their workers have a guaranteed paycheck rather than being “independent contractors”!
@nrmmom
Жыл бұрын
I bought something from a maskara Rep once, she was a friend and I wanted to support her before I knew anything about MLM. Oh my god this makeup was TERRIBLE
@AngelicllyShadowed
Жыл бұрын
I tried this product recently and the color the person matched me with was way too warm when I tried it on. I picked my own color the second time with a google search on their color descriptions. I used the pallet builder and it was customizable, I picked my shades. I took a risk (I was nervous) as a cool toned fair skinned person with June (green olive toned) because I have a malar rash. It came today and I CRIED! It covered my rash perfectly and I’m 37 and I’ve gone tried maybe a dozen foundations the last few months and nothing looked this good on my changing skin. I didn’t even put on moisturizer today when I tried on the new color I ordered and it still blended and looked great. I am so happy I found something that’s going to work for me. Plus I have mast cell activation syndrome from lyme and I’m allergic to everything but this I had zero side effects. I don’t sell seint and I never plan to. You can order this off their site without a rep too I believe. I don’t know about the whole mlm thing but the makeup is really good quality in my opinion.
@maryeckel9682
Жыл бұрын
I remember back when it was MaskCara, it was really good stuff and not an MLM. It sucks that they went this way for the business model.
@ladyrain299
Жыл бұрын
Too bad they are predatory and take advantage of people. They're a bad company to support regardless tbh.
@AngelicllyShadowed
Жыл бұрын
@@ladyrain299honestly I don’t see how this company is predatory. A lot of women like the makeup and sell it for discounts and money to buy more makeup. Not to be a business owner, TF? 😏🤣 listen, the opening scene of this video she lights a candle that is not good for sick people, pets, or I would argue, anyone. There’s perfume and nail polish that would give me neurological symptoms just sitting where she is. We all have different interpretations of what companies are predatory and what that even means. I’ll support them still, I didn’t see anything in this video based on data, just “a lot of dm.” I wanted to offer my input because it seems like a good product to me. And anyone that has a problem with the training video clip regarding recruiting has never been in a corporate sales seminar and it shows.
@clrmgcbarbie
Жыл бұрын
Olivia’s faces are pissing me off so bad lmao
@megannoe2057
Жыл бұрын
My question is the "top earner," I say," I say earner because there's literally 1, and for the high/low/average," it shows $1,620,749 across the board. Then it says months to achieve, and that's high=47 low=41 and average =44. That makes absolutely no sense because the top earner didn't loose their spot as top earner and it could have only taken them so many months and that's it as it's one person but they were dumb enough to find the average using the high and low number like they did to spruce up the rest of the numbers for this fake income chart 🤦♀️
@mosaicowlstudios
Жыл бұрын
What's fascinating to me about MLM's is that while traditional companies typically exploit their consumers to the greatest degree, MLM's, in both model and practice, exploit their actual company members (along with the consumers). It's mind-blowing.
@nancymccormick7567
Жыл бұрын
I have Seint and really like it. My person matched me very well. I am nearly 62 and liquid and powder foundations don’t work on my mature skin. My person has been a makeup artist for nearly 30 years. I am fortunate
@ginariv82
4 ай бұрын
Yes finally a video on this mlm I've been waiting for someone to do a deep dive on it. I almost got roped into it but I was hesitant when I received the sample and I just did not feel it was that amazing as they said it was to thick and would not recommend. I also didn't have the 300$ for their starter package no thank you. So happy I didn't do it.
@Iquey
Жыл бұрын
This reminds me of makeover essentials / M.E. . 😂
@Book.lover.briana
Жыл бұрын
I never thought to do that to my own makeup. That is GEINUS.
@libbydoesit
Жыл бұрын
I had no idea it was a specific pallet, I just thought they were on trend so I got the makeup forever one lol
@NikkiZollmanMUA
Жыл бұрын
This is so sad. I dont sell the stuff, but I do purchase their products from different sellers online (Poshmark/Mercari) and I truly enjoy most of their stuff. I wish you could just buy this stuff from a store and not through an actual rep.
@jengregory6764
9 ай бұрын
You CAN! I did!
@steph678
8 ай бұрын
Theres so many other brands with better cream/wax bases that would be better matched to your skin and cheaper.
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