With the Pinto situation, I think it is very disingenuous to assume the only thing that he did wrong was give access to his account to a third party and then assume the punishment is too large for it. There is more to this story in which the public may never know. That doesn't mean it isn't serious. My assumption is that he didn't bet on NHL games, but the person who had access to his account did. That IMO would be worth a half a season suspension, if not more. But that is only my assumption. The punishment was allegedly longer but the PA negotiated it down to 41 games, which Pinto accepted and that is why it isn't being appealed. It has zero to do with the world cup or Olympics or any losses the NHL took recently.
@Streetkillz13
11 ай бұрын
I absolutely agree with the above, there is WAY more to this story and Adam was likely right that this was a settlement, but his reasoning on why it happened is wrong and instead the original punishment was going to be much worse.
@Hockeyhobo89
11 ай бұрын
The Heritage classic is literally coughing baby vs coughing baby
@Blades500
11 ай бұрын
Coughing baby with pneumonia vs coughing baby with hay fever
@Bitt8316
11 ай бұрын
Yep...
@aomoxomoa3658
11 ай бұрын
I think you mean figuratively
@jb4469
11 ай бұрын
@@aomoxomoa3658 No
@people3865
11 ай бұрын
@@aomoxomoa3658touch grass
@dolandarkxgrandayy6953
11 ай бұрын
Steve picking someone as his pick to win the cup is the kiss of death for any team.
@NicoCdawg
11 ай бұрын
Its gonna be the most watched outdoor mid off in NHL history
@misschrysalis
11 ай бұрын
Very generous to call either of those teams mid
@emotionallyinvestful
11 ай бұрын
@@misschrysalisyou're right, they're worse than that 😂
@davidliddle949
11 ай бұрын
Adam, your preparation is second to none. You ask so many interesting questions and literally test Steve and Jessie. It's always interesting stuff. Go Adam Go
@willbobig
11 ай бұрын
I was planning on commenting something similar. You can tell that Adam is a complete professional.
@janihaavisto79
11 ай бұрын
Wau, first Adam has the MASTERCARD LOUNGE experience and now he has his own promo codes... Steve how much is he skimming you guys?.😂😂😂
@MrKounty01
11 ай бұрын
It would be awesome to watch Ken read his book on video! Just an amazing storyteller
@willbobig
11 ай бұрын
One hell of an episode boys. Loving the East coast representation in this one. Unreal segment!
@lukewaggoner9513
11 ай бұрын
Wait!!! Adam missed a huge opportunity! Leo is out there playing goal. He's awesome, because why not? He sees a dump in coming in and he leaves his crease to "help". The pick is chipped away from him and the other team scores. Steve from the stands jumps to his feet and screams "Leo!!!!! IF YOU'RE A GOALTENDER.....TEND THE GOAL!!!!!! LOVE YOU SON!"
@shawndonovan1182
11 ай бұрын
Please bring on Ken Reid more! Is he the Zellers version of Jeff Marek? Or is Marek the Flea-Market counterfeit of Reid?! All in all, best part of the episode! Just loving hockey at grassroots. 💙 You guys just secretly birthed a show. Similar to those Canadian heritage moments that used to play on 90's Canadian tv
@austinwooten2795
11 ай бұрын
Anytime Leo goes to play the puck Steve yells “TEND THE GOAL!!!”
@CelicaCrazed
11 ай бұрын
Ken is also such a great guest. Didn't even realize I stopped my workout I was so enthralled lol!
@_owiee_
11 ай бұрын
I was laughing at the title before even starting the episode boys, keep up the good work 😂😂😂
@TrueMapleLeafer
11 ай бұрын
We so badly need a Ken Ried SDPN show or be an addition to the current show. Always so entertaining and learn something
@gibberish5388
11 ай бұрын
The "you cant judge hockey if you dont play" argument infuriates me so much. So i cant judge a movie unless im a director? I cant judge a book unless im an author?
@vampirefroggie
11 ай бұрын
Ken is just awesome. I love a good storyteller. :)
@LukeVenables
11 ай бұрын
My questions about the Pinto situation are who was using his account? And what were they betting on? Did he let someone use his account to dodge the rules? That might explain the extreme suspension.
@rickyrichards1294
11 ай бұрын
41 games is fair for one reason. You don't want the integrity of the game in question. How do you not know the person wasn't betting on Pintos behalf? In my opinion Pinto saying this punishment is fine, kinda insinuates it could be a lot worse.
@Crashtest_Fetus
11 ай бұрын
As far as I know, the problem was that it was pintos account but someone else used it. So it's basically the other way around. I don't see how that is that bad for the nhl to deserve such a suspension. Sure it's against the user agreement of the betting company but I don't see anything harmful for the league
@rickyrichards1294
11 ай бұрын
@Crashtest_Fetus that other person placing bets on his account, could be placing bets on pintos behalf though.
@Crashtest_Fetus
11 ай бұрын
@@rickyrichards1294 yes that's what I meant. If there was some malicious intent why would they use pintos account? It only makes sense the other way around in my opinion.
@ajzism
11 ай бұрын
If the NHL is so worried about integrity then why is RICK TOCCHET allowed to coach in the league. He literally plead guilty to being involved in a gambling ring while he was the assistant coach with the Coyotes.
@TheAlaskanfrog
11 ай бұрын
As a fireman Steve, I decree that Leo is a REAL fireman for the night of Halloween.
@adamgoodman3958
11 ай бұрын
Steve’s son is going to learn how to drive a Zamboni and will be the next Toronto Zamgoalie to beat the Leafs.
@mp40submachinegun81
11 ай бұрын
adam the PA cant appeal, they forfeighted the right because the pa and the player both agreed to the suspension. it could be a permanent ban from the nhl. it was a settlement, not an an assessed suspension. he got off light for what the rules allow.
@Qmocean
11 ай бұрын
Anyone else hear "LEO!!! IF YOURE A GOALTENDER... TEND THE GOAL!!!!!!" from the other end of the rink?
@CynicalStorm
11 ай бұрын
kinda sad to not see Otter and Woll (former NTDP teammates) start against each other
@deadfish3321
11 ай бұрын
The Scuffle of Alberta is the reason I listen everyday, this nerd spit coffee when I read your title ...... thank you
@rileymills7887
11 ай бұрын
What a surprise, Steve’s Son loves hockey 😂 Even better if Leo becomes a goalie and at one point has to say “if you’re a goaltender..” about him on air haha
@andrewleonard3514
11 ай бұрын
Please thank Adam again for that hockey card collection, Steve.
@alexadkins3380
11 ай бұрын
I went to those chill games. Great times.
@leadbeater1572
11 ай бұрын
I'm going to Edmonton Sunday for the game over event ;)
@adamscoggins4305
11 ай бұрын
You guys should sign Ken up to do some ad hoc storytime pods
@constantlyconfussed
11 ай бұрын
Loving the title, boys! 🤣
@chrisg1556
11 ай бұрын
L berta
@adam_wylde
11 ай бұрын
underrated
@hcdhcdhcd41
11 ай бұрын
Lol
@ColonelGreen
11 ай бұрын
Re: the Flames, the exiled Sean Monahan currently has more points this season than Huberdeau and Kadri combined.
@ColonelGreen
11 ай бұрын
@ Yeah, but they didn't choose to let him go, so that's not quite the same.
@ColonelGreen
11 ай бұрын
@ Tkachuk refused to sign long-term, they had to trade him or lose him for nothing.
@camus1679
11 ай бұрын
I cannot wait to see a video of Steve screaming “IF YOURE A GOALTENDER TEND THE GOAL” at Leo
@LaughingStock17
11 ай бұрын
If the NHL cared about Canada, winter classic Montreal vs Toronto would’ve happened already. It is such a no brainer. They are never hot at the same time yet the games are always highly entertaining
@matthewgregory8218
11 ай бұрын
Or leafs vs Sens
@starkiller34
11 ай бұрын
I think one think you guys might fail to recognize is that, at least for my region, the media put it out like this: Shane Pinto suspended 41 games for sports betting. I'm not surprised people jump to conclusions immediately. I think the context mattered very much given the severity of the suspension and details of the situation in an official capacity rather than insider tweets and sources would have helped mitigate everything.
@rileymills7887
11 ай бұрын
I feel like the flames are going to become the Preds. Like slowly declining with good pieces but just never a team.
@MikeDoba
11 ай бұрын
Very cool Polillo story, I live in Brantford, been to many Smoke games back in the day and knew Paul and his cousins are good friends. The Gretzky family home is a minute away and before Walter passed he loved taking ppl downstairs showing them Waynes memorabilia.
@OttawaRocks
11 ай бұрын
Fantastic analysis done by SDPN on the Pinto situation. Keep up the great work!
@shaneboegeman8638
11 ай бұрын
Montoya did not finish the game. He played another 7 minutes and Luongo came back in even though he was hurt too (collarbone, not dehydration). Interesting fact, there was a position player who was healthy scratch who they were contemplating dressing as third goalie (I think Anisimov, but not sure).
@saltykaptain5953
11 ай бұрын
Manu i could listen to ken all day
@ericchilton6863
11 ай бұрын
The scuffle of alberta May be the greatest Title for a pod yet.
@jonnyheath6363
11 ай бұрын
I really don't think Adam understands the 3rd party aspect of the Pinto ban, and is basically rattling off a conspiracy theory that someone was simply using his account! For point of comparison soccer explicitly bans players from using inside information to instruct someone else to bet on your behalf, but the NHL wording is vague. Seems more likely Pinto thought he could get away with giving info for someone else to bet and got caught. Not technically him betting but would easily justify a 41 game ban (assuming no bets were placed on games he was involved in).
@PeterDrake
11 ай бұрын
As a Sens fan, I think 41 games is fine. If Shane Pinto's account was used to bet on hockey games then then is BAD. If the league's initial thought was a full season or more then that seems justified. Negotiating it down to 41 games, and giving up the right to appeal and putting it behind them all, seems like a reasonable deal.
@ericchilton6863
11 ай бұрын
Sammy was squirelly between the pipes last season as well too. Ive been skeptical of him being a true starter for a while now. Glad to see Woll getting an actual shot😊
@neiltobey1746
11 ай бұрын
Ken! Good to see Pictou representing!
@sergeouellette4631
11 ай бұрын
Great show, I agree, slow down znd enjoy the growth of the team!
@drumsgamesthecalgaryflames5060
11 ай бұрын
As a Flames fan, I need to see the Flames lose the heritage classic because it’ll probably take multiple consecutive losses for management to finally consider trading pending UFAs (ie. Lindholm and Hanifin) for picks and prospects. Please Conroy, don’t let Flames ownership bully you into not rebuilding. 🙏
@Jerbsinator
11 ай бұрын
They upheld the Anderson suspension because he was a Calgary Flame. That's it, that's the reason.
@swammer13
11 ай бұрын
I'm sure that we don't know everything about the Pinto situation. But the comparison to illegal checks to the head is valid. It is a clear statement that player safety takes a backseat to money from sponsors and brand reputation.
@HeyoJB
11 ай бұрын
shout out the Brantford Smoke!!
@johnbrowne2170
11 ай бұрын
Newfoundland loves Ken Reid.
@Gabryal77
11 ай бұрын
Zadorov is the only Flame with heart out there right now. We hoped for a Huberdeau Rebound, we feared we'd get another mediocre year of underperformance and missed chances, and what we've got is a tire fire.
@abe1996
11 ай бұрын
Just like sober October, can we get a month where we don't have to sit through predatory gambling ads?
@michaelrudd1927
11 ай бұрын
Woodcroft is addressing the systems issue saying they need to come together. Guys aren't playing for the group as a whole and taking shifts off. If they come together and can play as a unit that's the only way they can improve with the talent available to them.
@markdaigle4030
11 ай бұрын
Analytics get too much attention. They suck the oxygen out of the room that's needed to judge results and the eye test. If it isn't working but the numbers say it should, maybe put away the calculator and see what could work instead.
@michaelrudd1927
11 ай бұрын
Bouchard was rumored to be in a swap for Griz which would have helped immensely with adopting the Bruins system 🤷♂️.
@eatingsnowman
11 ай бұрын
Suspensions shouldn't start until you're under contract to a team.
@wilseph1
11 ай бұрын
His perfect record is like...0 for a million. -Jesse Blake
@tyleryt5950
11 ай бұрын
14:55 surprising you guys didn’t mention Connor browns contract. He has a signing bonus of 3.25 mill if he plays 10 games this year. That 3.25 mil will hit the cap for next year. Now here where it gets even better. The president (I believe) or owner of the oilers was his agent for the contract….there is a very real possibility Connor brown gets waived within the next week or so
@Jamminmagic
11 ай бұрын
As an albertan I am entertained
@michaelrudd1927
11 ай бұрын
So Pinto got a half-season suspension for how every Hawaiian is forced to bet 😂
@greatestgameonearth
11 ай бұрын
Imagine starting a fantasy draft with McDavid and Draisaitl as you first 2 picks. How far ahead are you then every other team? 50 player points? They had 281 points last season as a duo, next closest was Mackinnon and Rantanen with 216. And the Avs are cup contenders. How bad at being a gm do you have to be to ice a team with this record and McDavid and Draisaitl!?
@kolebowyer3837
11 ай бұрын
+/- may not tell a complete story, but it does express anecdotal evidence of effectivity. While i believe it's a terrible stat to track individually, it's a much more effective stat to assign to each line and reset when lines are changed.
@Kightbreezy
11 ай бұрын
Guys I think you guys should see what’s going on with soccer with the gambling like Tonali for Newcastle is about to get a 10 month ban. I think Pinto is getting away with a slap on the hand only getting 41 games
@DerpDerpityDerp
11 ай бұрын
The Thumb War of Alberta SUNDAY SUNDAY SUNDAY!!!
@CoolsBreeze
11 ай бұрын
I think any organization that deals with hockey news, like DSPN, has ties to online gambling and are commenting on this story has a duty to be honest to their listeners to first disclose that they have gambling ties before commenting and defending online gambling. This is exactly why ppl don't trust media anymore when there a corporate interests imbued into an organization and you fail to disclose a critical relationship. Just my two cents. And it's not a stupid thing to say when a league like the NHL goes out of their way to push online gambling and then goes hard on one of their athletes gambling on vague rules.
@maritime_card_collector
11 ай бұрын
you guys need to talk about Daniel 'Diamond Hands' Amesbury, or just watch his fights
@mattlovespeebee
11 ай бұрын
Adam jinxed Vegas. Vegas loses in OT to your Chicago Blackhawks 1:31:24
@zigfield723
11 ай бұрын
Coming into this season, the Oilers had the 3rd best goal differential and 2nd best record in the league since mid 21/22 season. Remember, its not specifically about how many goals you score, or let it, its about the DIFFERENTIAL. So Jay Woodcroft's implementation of the box zone 5v5 system (which everyone knew would stiffle their offense and their best player and his best attributes) has been a complete disaster. Predicted by many, now its reality. Fire this clown.
@DravenIM
11 ай бұрын
Dude, I LOVE Dallas, but hate playing against them! Their arena is weird, if you really look at it
@BlackMasakari
11 ай бұрын
Quick has awesome number vs oilers. .928 or something in 20 games.
@MySundin13
11 ай бұрын
Talk about two teams nobody wants to watch in an outdoor game.....what a dud. Leafs in Sweden will get more viewers
@rogerj77
11 ай бұрын
Why the silence around Nylander contract now?
@gylduran9217
11 ай бұрын
As many commenters below have pointed out, there must be more to the Pinto situation. You don't get a 41 game suspension for letting someone else use your gambling account, and this was clearly a settlement that was agreed upon with NDAs and a promise not to appeal. I'd bet (pun intended :D) either he or the person on his account was betting on NHL games.
@judistzoinkiski3395
11 ай бұрын
Hmm interesting. Guess Sutter wasnt the Problem. He wasnt the main problem, but he was a problem
@dapperduck4250
11 ай бұрын
If there was an NHL expansion team in Halifax, what should the team be called?
@rickma6363
11 ай бұрын
The Mooseheads!
@thomaskeyboard
11 ай бұрын
adam sounds like a conspiracy theorist discussing the pinto ban lol
@TheRiverweasel09
11 ай бұрын
I know it sounds harsh, but I wasn't so sure about Ken at the beginning of his segment. Sounded like he was just gonna be an old geezer initially, but within minutes, he had me entirely captivated. Ken is an amazing storyteller and was so wholesome on the podcast. I'm only a proxy Panthers hockey fan and love your show and LFR, but now I'm definitely going to listen to this portion again tomorrow so I can look into buying his book. Fantastic guest, you guys!
@cmills-fl4gn
11 ай бұрын
Honestly, I get non hockey related suspensions being way harsher, because there’s no reason for it to happen. You get to play the game you love and make millions of dollars. If you can’t follow very simple off-ice rules, you don’t deserve to have that privilege. You say “how is something this stupid worth 41 games?” That’s the point. Don’t be stupid.
@benscott3228
11 ай бұрын
A goalie that can't stop water from falling into the ocean? Is that an easy thing to do?
@Tiax776
11 ай бұрын
Why not make the intro 5 minutes longer, a bit louder with more random sound effects?
@AndrewRyan709
11 ай бұрын
The light tussel of Alberta
@mylove4pot
11 ай бұрын
LOVE KEN REID MAKE HIM A PERMENTANT MEMBER
@edgarbernal-martinez4698
11 ай бұрын
I've moved on to other Leafs content or podcasts. I see the Leafs are mentioned almost 2 hours in. Not too interesting to discuss Edmonton or Calgary first. That could be at the end
@ИльяГостеев-ц9э
11 ай бұрын
Pinto would get a mil for playing half of the season so it's like getting 2 mil for full
@APisceanSlant
11 ай бұрын
I'm no fan of Bettman, but it's astonishing how much I disagreed with the entire Pinto segment. From the conclusions, to the framing...woof.
@OhHeyItsAlexx
11 ай бұрын
The winning streaks from the top teams all got canceled lol. Just got to that part.. aaand then Vegas loses to the Hawks.
@juholaitakari1305
11 ай бұрын
That’s English tie it’s done properly
@RandomGuyCDN
11 ай бұрын
playing Zone defence only works when you have players that have extremely high defensive IQ. That is something that the oilers do not have. Also one of those goals on the oilers was literally because Anchor Nurse drifted his dumbass left into Skinners sightline to block a shot that he ended up not blocking and just hid the shot release from his goalie. The team defensively is worse than high school kids
@bdbdkdfotbrveiw
11 ай бұрын
Does a trade for lindholm or hanifin make sense for the leafs?
@chrisg1556
11 ай бұрын
Hanifin and or Tanev. Brad is probably hoping the flames keep losing so Conroy is more open to trading them.
@TJ37961
11 ай бұрын
Flames fan here- you don’t want Hanifin😂 his only positive is speed- he’s a turnover machine and doesn’t play good defense. He’s very overhyped IMO
@chrisg1556
11 ай бұрын
@@TJ37961 I dont know. Flames fans said similar things about Brodie but he has been fantastic for most of his time in Toronto. Last 6 months or so he has struggled but he's been great for years as a leaf.
@msmittysmitty83
11 ай бұрын
Woody is fired by Nov 15th
@dawgmane2722
11 ай бұрын
How does oilers fan Steve feel
@RobFazekas-ky2ow
11 ай бұрын
Lilejgren for zadorov 50 percent retained
@HandsomeDanVacationRentals
11 ай бұрын
Flames offense looks like it’s playing with a beach ball. Oilers defense is so porous it makes Swiss cheese look solid. Which suck will win!
@alexemerson9886
11 ай бұрын
Katz and the ownership group are getting let off too lightly in Oiler land.
@Mr.PeamealBacon
11 ай бұрын
6 marlies GP. If you're gonna have a TAKE know the facts.
@RobFazekas-ky2ow
11 ай бұрын
Leafs sorely need an upgrade on there defenceman come on treliving get zadorov or pesce or hanifin or parayko leafs need at least two
@nicklovinit
11 ай бұрын
Oilers fan (obviously) and you’re all not wrong. The entire product is bad product. 20 man roster, one single injury, and due to the way the team is built and cap is used, Ken can’t even make moves. I’m just blown away that he hasn’t sent down Erne, janmark, Vinny. Why the kids, even Gagner who had two points in his first game, aren’t being called up. Ridiculous. You’ve done everything but change the mix of guys. Ken’s a double edge sword with how brutally patient he is Jesus Christ
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