I personally love this chord as the feeling it conveys to me is bittersweet or sad moments. It feels like going through a lot but then a little happiness. I find it weirdly calming and just lets me melt away.
@koreboredom4302
5 жыл бұрын
I like to use these a lot, especially arpeggiated. It's so mystical and enchanting. So Zelda-like.
@joeknightguitar
7 жыл бұрын
very nice video! m7b5 is also used as a ii chord in a minor key in jazz especially with a ii V i progression
@MangoldProject
7 жыл бұрын
That could very well be!
@brodominique3800
5 жыл бұрын
Another tip guys for changing Fm to Dm7b5 is just change the root note and drop 3 semitone. For example is Cm to Am7b5, change the root (C) drop 3 semitones and you will get A without moving the other notes.
@MangoldProject
5 жыл бұрын
That's a good tip. Thanks for chiming in!
@filippobonaventura8801
7 жыл бұрын
I really love half-diminished chords, and I often use them in order to substitute a dominant 7th or (even better) a flat 9th chord. For example, in C major, Bø7 can substitute a G7 (to C). In C major another great chord is F#ø7, which substitutes a D9 and adds a beautiful sophisticated tension even to the simplest chord progressions. For example, C - F#ø7 - Dø7 - C can be used to substitute a much more dull C - D9 - G7b9sus4 - C. Great video!
@MangoldProject
7 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your input Filippo.
@1whoDoesSimply
4 жыл бұрын
Holy crap youre right lol. To keep it on one hand i inverted it, still works. I gotta write this down...
@dennislee9134
4 жыл бұрын
Filippo, could you explain the music theory basis of your comment? Playing them on the piano sounds great, but I'd like to understand why that is.
@filippobonaventura8801
4 жыл бұрын
@@dennislee9134 F#ø7 substitutes D9 because it has basically the same notes. You can think of it as a rootless D9. The same goes for Dø7, which can be thought as a rootless G7b9sus4. The progression sounds better when you play Dø7/F as it creates a nice chromatic movement of some voices (F# to F and A to Ab).
@JakobBruhnke
7 жыл бұрын
Personally, I use this chord super often but if it's really that underappreciated, then you've definetely done a great job in teaching it! :)
@MangoldProject
7 жыл бұрын
I'm under the impression it's considered "advanced" by beginners who stick to the more boring major and minor chords.
@JakobBruhnke
7 жыл бұрын
MangoldProject When you consider pop music, the chord (and way to many chords) are very underrepresented :) as a jazz musician this chord belongs to bread and butter (as you know; I have heard the chord in your videos numerous of times! ^^)
@MangoldProject
7 жыл бұрын
True dat, and quite unfortunately, because it really has a unique color that would make pop music more interesting.
@molloyfan9229
7 жыл бұрын
You neglect to mention its (by far) most common usage, which as the ii chord in a minor key ii - V - i progression.
@bengalle392
5 жыл бұрын
Yessssss throw those 9s in there too. Love it. My favorite chord being used in conjunction with my SECOND favorite chord? magic.
@SolarMumuns
5 жыл бұрын
Love your videos. They always get straight to the point, no-frills but great, valuable content that's clearly explained. Thank you so much!
@Muzikman127
6 жыл бұрын
Good video, but my personal favourite use of this chord missed out: as a preparation to a dominant in a minor key. Brazilian music in particular uses this chord all the time for this purpose, both within a key and for the purpose of modulation or temporary tonicisation. An extreme example of this would be in "flor de liz" by djavan, in which the second chord of the verse is already a sneaky modulation from C major to E minor by these means. C F#m7b5 B7 Em And for a real study in just how beautiful a half diminished chord can be, listen to João Gilberto's recording of "A felicidade" it has some sensational falling half diminished to dominant patterns that just pull at your heartstrings. Dm7 G7 C A7 a gente trabalha... F#mb5 B7 Em7b5 A7 Dm7b5 G7 C
@legoguy23451
2 жыл бұрын
bro good taste
@Muzikman127
2 жыл бұрын
@@legoguy23451 thanks!
@globetrotting2632
Жыл бұрын
What's a dominant in a minor key? Like C7 or G7 in Dm and Bm respectively?
@Muzikman127
Жыл бұрын
@@globetrotting2632 could you rephrase your question? Happy to help but I'm sleepy and I didn't get what you're asking haha
@pjlk00
7 жыл бұрын
Everybody's got to learn sometime
@burakyy4907
7 жыл бұрын
panaotis .c and he finished the video by saying "change your mind.." :)
@MangoldProject
7 жыл бұрын
YEAH that was precisely what I was aiming for :D
@MangoldProject
7 жыл бұрын
Heart ... ;)
@martywilsonlife
7 жыл бұрын
Man, I was just listening to that song last night REALLY love it. It does have some interesting chord progressions. 'Glad I stumbled onto your ideo!
@MrMikomi
7 жыл бұрын
MangoldProject alone?
@brennanlable
6 жыл бұрын
you can also use the m7b5 chord as a iv chord substitution by playing Fm7b5 resolving to Cmajor they share a tritone and function as a dominant in the key of C :)
@TehEpicAsian715
7 жыл бұрын
honestly, I tend to hear this chord as a good chord to precede the major 5(V) chord before a minor 1(I). I tend to use it in a i- iv- VII- III-VI-ii (m7b5)-V-i progression, and it makes for a nice transition chord! (or vi- ii- V-I-IV-vii (m7b5)-III(V/vi) -vi)
@TheBaconWizard
4 жыл бұрын
So it serves instead of a Neopolitan 6 :)
@pedromariano2100
4 жыл бұрын
I AM so Glad with your lessons !!! Very good. Congratulations !!!
@stevesam1982
5 жыл бұрын
Enharmonically equivalent to minor 6th.. Dm7flat5 and Fm6 are enharmonically the same. Jus the root differs.
@paxwallacejazz
4 жыл бұрын
It depends on which 2nd you choose
@oneeyemonster3262
4 жыл бұрын
@@paxwallacejazz it's more equivalent to dorian #4 or dorian b5. That's the different between A harmonic min and C harmonic Maj You could play those as full or half dim... or you look it this way...G, B D, F = B dim/G so when you play A melodic min ...it's F# dim/D G# dim/E.. when you apply the whole or Harmonic min b2... some of it can be #6 or b7.....but they'll all have possible tritone as #4. From C Major.... if you play C double harmonic min aka Hungarian min it'll also give the so call...Ab...italian, German or Frence. The mode is simply Ab Lydian #2, #6 You can play C Hungarian MAJOR ( lydian #2, b7 or Mix #2, #4) 1,3, 5, b7...or 1, #2, 5, b7....or 1, #2, #4, 6...or 1, #2, #4, b7... amways... first you learn how to play B dim into C ( semi tone) then....two semi tone... you could play A dim......B dim into C instead of F7 G7 into C.. The Bb7...is basical....D dim/Bb......D dim into E that's just B7 into E Then you learn how to play it WH ( 3 semi tone apart. Basically the Full dim... lets say from A min... I play A min......B7 into E Maj7 ( C# min/E MAJOR) I could had play G#7 ( G# phry b4 into C#min) or A dim....C dim into C# min The N6 or full dim from C# min.......D min/dim......E7 to A MAJOR or A min C # min D maj7 E7 F# min /A MAJOR C # min D dim F dim G# dim A min C# min D dim E dim into F min Amin Bb7 C7 into F min...or F MAJOR :-P Well if you play A aeo b5 ( C melodic min) with a leading tone A Harmonic min b5......That's F lydian #2, b7 :-P or you could play A melodic min ......F# aeo b5 with a leading tone That's D LYDIAN DOMINANT #2 :-P
@LouisSerieusement
4 жыл бұрын
@@oneeyemonster3262 thanks a lot for your comment , at least I'm really happy to read it ! That's quitte useful as I dive deep into dominant/diminished/upper extensions and modes of the harmonic minor ; Cheers from France :)
@oneeyemonster3262
4 жыл бұрын
@@LouisSerieusement The trick is to play C Harmonic MAJOR and A Harmonic min....AND C Harmonic minor and A Harmonic MAJOR 2, 4, b6,7 ...wheather you count from A or from C.. Harmonic MAJOR or Harmonic min In a nut shell...you also get used to play B dim D dim F dim G# in A MAJOR or A min.....D min/dim E7 into A MAJOR or A min You could had also played F dim into F# min/A MAJOR A Lydian b3..( minor tonic) TERM LYDIAN will HELP you associate with the 4th or b6......( then to possible modulation to other keys 2. 4. b6. 7) as in b6, 7 into C# min or 4, b6, 7 into E min......A min ( dor #4) B7 into E min or E MAJOR or G MAJOR or G min ( 2, 4, b6, 7) A dor b5....or A dor b2.....or A loc...loc maj6 when you play A harmonic min b2....or melodic min b2 Bb.....counter clock wise.....Lydian. ...ion.....Mix CYCLE DOWN to the 4th,....... Lydian, #6 or Lydian #5, #6 D double harmonic min.....Bb Lydian #2, #6 Bb Lydian to D min..........Bb lydian aug to G melodic min You could play Bbdim into B min.. But you can also you this.....Bb7 A7 into D Maj7/B min if you go to the Freanch....german. itailan...lesson It's just C Double harmonic min vamp over C MAJOR A min Abma7 G7 into C MAJOR or C Maj F Min.....Ab Maj G7 into C MAJOR C Maj Db Maj7 AbMaj G7 into C MAJOR Db Maj Lydian..ish to F min ( chord...or KEY) You could had played A min Bb7 C7 into F min ( F melodic minor) its' the same sort of movment if I play F Maj7....A min......C Maj...B7 into E MAJOR ( tonic) or reverse it...so you'll see it,..from C# min/E MAJOR C# min.....E Maj...F maj7 A min C Maj B7 into E MAJOR
@Dariocomposer
4 жыл бұрын
Inversions and voicings are taken for granted tho (which is ok, I presume). I've discovered inversions after 10 years of playing piano 😂
@danieljohnsopardenilla997
5 жыл бұрын
5:36 actually sounds good to me. You can look at it as a rootless G7 chord which then resolves to C. 5:54 also sounds good, you can still look at it as a rootless G7 chord with a 9 (the extension "9" is great in making chords jazzy) which then resolves to Cmaj7 (another jazzy chord). Just add a G note in the left hand, and you'll find it pleasant to hear.
@dalejayne7040
7 жыл бұрын
I love your approach to teaching. I actually learn something.
@patriciathomas-johnson2003
4 жыл бұрын
Awesome ... so simple... so many ways to see this... the secret is to learn the relationship between each note. Some people only see black and white notes. I see plenty of patterns. Ditones, tritones, thirds, sixths b7b5, #11, b9. I see 4ths and 5ths. I see clearly the shell of each chord. I see some stumble and struggle over some simple concept . Stop ,, it’s just that simple if you don’t overthink things. The real secret to advance your music proficiency is to learn the relationship of the 3rd and 7th notes of the 12 keys. I love R &B so I hear the min7b5 in the song Baby come to Me by Regina Belle
@ositotovi
Жыл бұрын
Great advice Patricia!!.Thanks!!❤
@victorlaw4256
6 жыл бұрын
Big thanks! You've opened up a whole new world for me.
@johngalus9043
7 жыл бұрын
I think these lessons are the best on the net I'm a guitar player whos trying to learn piano and all of these lessons are interesting and very helpful in my music education thanks john galus
@MangoldProject
7 жыл бұрын
You're welcome John.
@barkofink
5 жыл бұрын
Your D-7b5 is a dominant G7sus4b9 ( Phrygian #6) in your exemple. Half diminished is mostly used over a II progression or in out context. (locrian).
@treehann
Жыл бұрын
Thanks, this video was exactly what i was looking for when i was curious how this chord can work!
@sorenfrankmunch3197
6 жыл бұрын
Excellent. Clear, concise, easy to understand.
@carlosfigueroa790
3 жыл бұрын
Very help full!!! Thanks! from Central America. Guatemala City!!
@MangoldProject
3 жыл бұрын
You're welcome, back from Rehovot, Israel :)
@mrlee6740
3 жыл бұрын
Mangoldddd I'm here again. I'll learn everything you've ever posted. I loveeee youuuuu. You'll be seeing me in all your videos
@PIANOSTYLE100
6 жыл бұрын
in octave position it is great to do any dominant like g7. g b d f . just move middle fingers down an voila the minor and flat five. I really like your channel..
@ParhelionMedia
5 жыл бұрын
It's not "mistaken for dissonance" it IS dissonant because it has a b5 (tritone) in it. Nonetheless I think it's a beautiful chord that I use fairly often as a passing harmony to create tension and release in my songs. Also works well as a passing chord for a modulation.
@pedrofigueiredo1936
7 жыл бұрын
ok, i like your teaching methods, yesterday i watched the diminished chords video, and i liked it a lot. Good job and keep them coming! il watch them all.
@MangoldProject
7 жыл бұрын
Thanks Pedro! I hope you enjoy them.
@bobjohnson7441
7 жыл бұрын
Starting out with classical guitar, I learned it as a half-diminished. Then discovered most of the jazz guys called it m7b5. Same church, different pew. lol
@sameash3153
7 жыл бұрын
B Johnson The people calling it m7b5 are wrong and are idiots.
@brianwarner308
6 жыл бұрын
wow you guys really assumed a lot about each other just from the name of this chord
@WALbariaRUS
6 жыл бұрын
Sam Eash how is it wrong? It literally is a minor seventh chord, and the 5th is flattened.
@nathanieldorlac3499
6 жыл бұрын
I bet you think "power" is a type of chord as well, huh
@verandi3882
5 жыл бұрын
To remember it easily , i call it diminished 7th, it has all the notes of a major 7th chord but they are all lowered one semi tone
@vladislavkim40
7 жыл бұрын
Wonderful! Can we get more of these chords in the future videos?
@MangoldProject
7 жыл бұрын
Will certainly do my best to showcase them more :) Actually, my previous video on gospel piano has a Gm7b5 chord in it! Check it out here: kzitem.info/news/bejne/jo2A3I6gmqKYpaA
@jesseehawk7311
6 жыл бұрын
Solid Gold lesson. Thank you.
@joejohnson4423
2 жыл бұрын
Every Bodies Gotta Learn Sometimes by the Korgis. And if that's the song you were thinking of, I bet you did not expect anyone to know it.
@lennyluzitano8920
3 жыл бұрын
Very nice video. Thanks for sharing
@Warpath1337
5 жыл бұрын
I had a dream about this chord and my research brought me here. Sounds beautiful.
@tonygadget
7 жыл бұрын
sounds very eltonjohnny)
@britesynth
Жыл бұрын
I take the minor 3rd and build its minor triad Cm7b5 3rd is Eb Make the Ebm triad over C Ebm/C Also try using the upper triad inversions as well
@RogerToye
7 жыл бұрын
love these lovely chords your bringing out Bb9 and m7b5 wonderful, got another ?
@lawrencetaylor4101
2 жыл бұрын
Merci beaucoup for this. You've answered many of my questions since I play this chord but always have asked why?
@wizmos74
7 жыл бұрын
Fantastic lesson sir,thanks a lot
@roygbiv1122
6 жыл бұрын
I've also seen the half-diminished chord used as a subdominant. Quite common in jazz. (e.g. II-7(b5), V7, I-)
@MangoldProject
6 жыл бұрын
Indeed.
@gordonbryant6460
5 жыл бұрын
In a major key it makes more theoretical sense, at least to me, to play an Fm6/D (exact same notes as the Dm7b5) if I want to achieve the sound you're playing. I was taught to play the m7b5, on the other hand, as the iim7b5 in the ii-V-i progression.
@PhrygianPhrog
5 жыл бұрын
According to Dizzy Gillespie, that's what he and Monk called the min7b5, and how they thought about it.
@Xenormous
5 жыл бұрын
Super interesting, thank you very much !
@dominicreyez4820
4 жыл бұрын
Your Audio is the Best 😁😁😁👌👌
@miguelrodfher
6 жыл бұрын
Awesome!!! Do you have a lesson on passing chords? Or how to walk the bass
@Androidprince08
5 жыл бұрын
Usually I heard from 90s song by Michael learns to rock now Ive know thanks
@yarlodek5842
3 жыл бұрын
4:38 Throw a C+ chord after that C chord and another C chord in there and you have a perfect resolution to that chord progression.
@LAOMUSICARTS
6 жыл бұрын
The m7(b5) chord is a sub for V7(b9), no root and a Modal Interchange chord.For that matter, ANY chord with Ab in it will do the job!
@Elvenheim
7 жыл бұрын
it's from the Korgis 😊 I love that song!
@armansrsa
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the vid...b6 is the most common note for stealing the minor sound and using it in major. This gives us new forms of subdominant harmony, in this case, iv and ii°7 (half diminished), the Fm chord and the Dm half dimished are almost the same notes :) For the Ab you stole 2 notes from minor which makes a very big contrast and Dm7b5 after kind of functions as a dominant chord going back to C except you don't resolve the dimished 5th.... the last Dmb5 actually sounds better going to a C in 1st inversion :)
@masterchief3007
5 жыл бұрын
I heard there was a secret chord 😲
@MrMikomi
4 жыл бұрын
I heard some geezer called Dave played it.
@sanjeevmraman
4 жыл бұрын
@@MrMikomi Hallelujah!
@paxwallacejazz
6 жыл бұрын
You aren't really teaching folks how stuff functions huh? It's not wrong as music theory is actually sound. But that you didn't teach how a half diminished chord functions in a minor key seems weird to me.
@trickcyclist1
Жыл бұрын
Wonderful ❤️
@javianbrown8627
7 жыл бұрын
Being mostly self taught i either don't know some things or i know them but don't know the names
@MangoldProject
7 жыл бұрын
This means you're at the right stage to start learning theory in a more ordered fashion.
@javianbrown8627
7 жыл бұрын
MangoldProject pretty much
@EricLaermans
4 жыл бұрын
MangoldProject Perhaps. Think scale not chord and there are many scales that perfectly fit the musical context it is in. So... the inner voice will guide you what scale to use. And the chord is just the scale with added spaces here and there.
@oridoron7
7 жыл бұрын
Great Video. What I miss, is a bit of explanation to scale degrees context. What the functionality of the 7 chord in major scale (half dim) in this case? You are obviously not using it as a regular dominant to the tonic C, as you use use a different scale degree as half dim for the progression. So again, why theoretically it sounds that good?
@misstress1928
7 жыл бұрын
ori doron it's called harmonic major (IV -> iv substitution that is). iim7b5 - actually you hear a subdominant function, but technically the IV chord is replaced by diatonically relevant substitution a 3rd below.
@oridoron7
7 жыл бұрын
Miss Tress Thanks for that. Didn't you mean the Minor harmonic? I actually understood its a susbstitiie for the minor 4th. Maybe I'm looking for a wider/deeper explanation, like why the minor 4th (which supposed to be a major 4th in the major scale), can function as sub dominant in the major scale?
@misstress1928
7 жыл бұрын
ori doron Google harmonic major.
@bobjohnson7441
7 жыл бұрын
It can be viewed as a Dom7 chord without the root. E.g., a G7 or G9, if you will, thinking of a Bm7b5. And, Dom chords don't have to resolve, though, inherently, they want to.
@JacoNerve
7 жыл бұрын
Guys, he is simply borrowing chords from the parallel mode (C minor). It's called Modal Interchange! You can easily notice that Fm, Dm7b5, Ab are all chords of C minor. Don't be so uselessly tortuous if there's no need ;)
@TheIamtheoneandonly1
7 жыл бұрын
It kinda sounds a little bit like a Barry Manilow number or perhaps the "Piano Man" himself Billy Joel, but I can't place it. Sounds really cool though. New York Minute by Don Henley springs to mind.
@ephjaymusic
7 жыл бұрын
Top stuff as always!
@bruindodger
5 жыл бұрын
Can you do a video on Major 7 flat 5 chords as used in the song “Come Back To Me” by Janet Jackson? No one has done this video on KZitem that I’m aware of. Thank you.
@p1anosteve
6 жыл бұрын
The m7b5 is the second degree chord of the harmonic minor scale hence it implies minor tonality. I see you used F minor and Ab major, also the 4th degree and 6 degree chords of the harmonic minor scale, so really you are mixing together major and minor tonalities, which provide a distinct musical ambiguity, which is cool. The most frequent use in jazz though is surely as the 2 in a 2-5-1 in a minor key with the b5 of the 2 chord being retained in the dominant chord as a b9.
@TehEpicAsian715
7 жыл бұрын
(fun fact: this is also used in the RWBY Vol.2 opening right before the V chord leading to the chorus!)
@MangoldProject
7 жыл бұрын
I was actually thinking of The Korgis' Everybody Has To Learn Sometime.
@SamChaneyProductions
5 жыл бұрын
Would you use a natural 9th or a flat 9th on a minor 7 flat 5 chord? I tend to think the natural 9th sounds better but many people tend to use the locrian mode to play over this chord which has a flat 9th.
@xiiibc9246
5 жыл бұрын
I'm with you about the natural 9 and like to associate it with the sixth mode of the melodic minor scale, aeolian b5 aka locrian #2
@paxwallacejazz
4 жыл бұрын
Neglected chord? You don't play in minor keys?
@Tyler-mz2sm
4 жыл бұрын
Sounds like that 90s jam "She's Homeless"
@thriftylady662
2 жыл бұрын
Can you explain to me please where the Bb came from at 4:32ish when you are playing the right hand. The screen above also says a Bb is part of the Ab chord. Am I missing something here? I'm perplexed. Thanks.
@pavanchandaluri
7 жыл бұрын
Sir I've been watching all ur tutorials and it is the best piano tutorial that I found on the internet. I have a doubt, when A minor and C major scales have same notes, whats the point in having 2 scales?
@Cephlin
7 жыл бұрын
pavan chandaluri they're different modes. Look up nodes and you'll see they sound very different to each other.
@randomuser6064
7 жыл бұрын
if i did play the piano after watching this my dad would be like " DAMN son where did you learned this?"
@randomuser6064
7 жыл бұрын
go to your own planet fucktard butt hurt. all i did was I comment on the video and did nothing against the video ,why are these people or people like you rather are so sensitive about this goddamn comment. Are people nowadays rated to their English communicating skills? does it mean if you're better in English you're more intellectual than the others? what makes you think that just because some fucking dude who tells me i'm afraid to use my given name on internet i will be scared ? really ?
@ositotovi
Жыл бұрын
Somebody can tell me,from wich mode comes this chord???.Thank you!!!❤
@gaugeonesteam
7 жыл бұрын
Some Harry Connick songs use this trick. I think this guys videos are very good.
@Transterra55
4 жыл бұрын
At 4:19, when you played Ab Bb C Eb, you put the Chord as Ab........would it not be Ab9? Excellent video! Thanks for the upload.
@MsFlyingCake
4 жыл бұрын
Love your video, but I kinda hate how people call this m7b5 because it could be misleading, as it is not built from a minor chord; rather, it is a diminished triad with an added 7th.
@greba8800
4 жыл бұрын
this is fire
@bayanr9249
6 жыл бұрын
3:18 Imagine by John Lennon
@frankdux5215
4 жыл бұрын
No, because that song is in the key of B major, follow by E, C#m, and F#
@ergnoor3551
6 жыл бұрын
At 1:01 Wagner's Tristan and Isolde begun to play in my mind.
@Bigchurchmusic
7 жыл бұрын
Excellent.
@EricLaermans
4 жыл бұрын
Just for the fun... add an E to the Dm7b5 chord for adding this extra edge! Leading to G augmented b9 and back to C.
@frankdux5215
4 жыл бұрын
thank you. So b5 only works with minors and not majors?
@pcas9
3 жыл бұрын
Hi there! Does anyone know why the Ab works as the 2nd chord in the 1st chord progression ? Big thanks! Paul
@nesschallis1909
7 жыл бұрын
Can you explain why you can substitute the 4th minor chord for 2nd b5 please? it makes a great sound but I don't understand the theory as to why you can do this substitution. Thank you.
@draco4569
7 жыл бұрын
Ness Challis Believe it or not, you nailed it right on the head. It is simply because it sounds good. With experience, you'll be able to discern whether more complicated chord progressions sound good or not. Lots of jazz is trial and error. You remember which chords sound good, at least to you, and you toss out the sounds that don't. In doing so, you are also developing your own unique style in jazz, which is much better than copying off of someone else. Hope this helps.
@bobbymcloughlin3452
2 жыл бұрын
m7(b5) is a Full Diminished Chord but Augmented, m7(b5) = dim+,
@robhummel4379
7 жыл бұрын
Nice. So would you say all m7b5 chords can always resolve down a whole step to a major chord? As in your example Dm7b5 to C.
@MangoldProject
7 жыл бұрын
Yes, although be aware this might change the tonal center of your progression.
@roneirac
4 жыл бұрын
I think it could be called Maj7 b5 cause the m7 confuse reading and ppl might think: is it a minor seven?
@DanielJ
7 жыл бұрын
So is it necessary to have a chord progression fit in one single scale? Can't your progression include whichever chords you want it to, and you just have sophistication in the melody?
@draco4569
7 жыл бұрын
Daniel K Certainly, as long as it sounds good.
@Muzikman127
6 жыл бұрын
Daniel J Answer that question yourself by looking at the chords to literally any beatles song ;)
@gman4674
5 жыл бұрын
What is the theory that allows substituting Ab for F?
@MangoldProject
5 жыл бұрын
Briefly: In the key of C major, Ab leads chromatically downward to G. F also leads to G.This means both chords play the role of a "sub-dominant", i.e. they resolve to the dominant degree (G major in this case). For a more detailed answer, watch my jazz piano series: kzitem.info/door/PLP9cbwDiLzdKVOHbx4B0EhwYNksXYaX3s
@jacktinney
2 жыл бұрын
3:00 isn't this more of an fm6 with a d in the bass, rather than a dm7b5?
@MangoldProject
2 жыл бұрын
Both are correct without any context. You'll classify it as a dm7b5 or Fm6/D depending on the functional role and/or the degree which is substitutes (sub-dominant or dominant).
@user-pk4sd9dd2w
6 жыл бұрын
Why does F major and F minor chords played in a sequence sound ok when they are not in the same key? tks!
@MangoldProject
6 жыл бұрын
That could be answered on multiple levels. First, on a psychoacoustic level (how do we quantify the consonance of these chords?). Then, on a music theoretical level (it's a borrowed chord). Then, on a cultural level (why do western people like this sort of progression?). I'm afraid I can't really give you a good answer except "because", which is sort of the ultimate answer you'll get in music theory. Music theory just strives to categorize WHAT sounds good, not WHY.
@slimkickens
6 жыл бұрын
Because of the A-Ab-G cadence, and the F-F-E cadence. The parallel minor iv functions as a dominant chord because it leads back to the major tonic, honestly better than the major V chord
@user-pk4sd9dd2w
6 жыл бұрын
legend. is it only the iv position you tend to see the parallel minor substituted?
@slimkickens
6 жыл бұрын
@@user-pk4sd9dd2w it's not typical to see other major chords dropped to minor. Certainly not as common as the minor iv. But you do see a minor v or even a minor tonic from time to time. What is more common though, is raising a minor chord, especially a minor third, to a major dominant seventh. this also works as a strong leading for a IV-iv cadence. So, in sequence, that's I-III7-IV-iv, or C-E7-F-Fm in C.
@lion82292
7 жыл бұрын
When you added the Ab to the chord progression( so C, Ab, D(m7b5),C) Is it save to say you went into Cminor for that chord and extended the Tonic function with a major 6 chord in the parallel minor key so it became Tonic, "tonic", dominant, tonic?
@MangoldProject
7 жыл бұрын
That was a bit too deep for me :). But your general idea is correct, I borrowed from the parallel minor. I don't usually over-analyze my progressions because I feel that when something requires a very complicated theoretical framework to understand, the framework itself becomes a bit useless. At any rate, use whatever works for you!
@erfanmeskini7744
4 жыл бұрын
nice...but I know that it does have a b9th too...and in the theory book that I'm reading it says that the b9th is actually an avoid note...besides of that I played the complete min7 chord then I flatted the 5th and 9th and it didn't work...there was a note out of the scale and it was the 13th... it should be flatted either ...it should be min7 b5, b9, b13...if anybody help me out with it I would appreciate it
@CaeSharp
6 жыл бұрын
I recommend jamming in G double harmonic major over this video.
@CaeSharp
6 жыл бұрын
...and in c
@gregtheflyingwhale
5 жыл бұрын
this reminded me of Imagine - John Lennon
@LE02890
7 жыл бұрын
What piano Brand is this?
@MangoldProject
7 жыл бұрын
Roland RD700GX.
@Aquatarkus96
4 жыл бұрын
reminds me of ELO :) just missing Jeff Lynne's vocals!
@MangoldProject
4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, it's a classic ELO sound. ELO uses more of a VIIb9 sound, though (which is basically a iim7b5 with an added VIIb).
@sagarayankumar9109
4 жыл бұрын
Its reminds me simultaneously two songs, 1. Imagine by Lennon's, 2. They won't go when I go.......by George michael.
@thegreenpianist7683
7 жыл бұрын
Isnt that the chord used in the 3rd measure of schubert's Serenade ?
@MangoldProject
7 жыл бұрын
I have no idea ...
@thegreenpianist7683
7 жыл бұрын
Its not particularly just the third measure its pretty much the whole piece lol , but in that measure its very remarkable , u can check it out and see
@fraviersckeiser2727
7 жыл бұрын
Amazing
@TomRossi83
6 жыл бұрын
Hi, I like the video but i don't get the mean why you can substitute those chords, I mean, the reason why...Because to me seems more like a modal interchange whit the parallel minor instead a chord substitutions. Thanks.. Tommaso
@MangoldProject
6 жыл бұрын
Modal interchange IS chord substitution.
@TomRossi83
6 жыл бұрын
yes ok, but why those chords? which relations there is between that?
@MangoldProject
6 жыл бұрын
You mean the psycho-physics behind it? That's way too complicated to address in a KZitem comment.
@TomRossi83
6 жыл бұрын
MangoldProject ok anyway Thanks!
@rachelcarpenter4855
4 жыл бұрын
Is the 80s song Alone by Heart?
@MangoldProject
4 жыл бұрын
Think The Korgis.
@MangoldProject
4 жыл бұрын
I had a listen to Alone. Where would you say that chord is featured? (Provide timestamp) kzitem.info/news/bejne/knmtl6KdcGd8g2U
@rmilan08
4 ай бұрын
That reminds me of dream on my aerosmith but i'm not sure if it's 80s lol
@MangoldProject
4 ай бұрын
It's actually early 70s!
@ryanvergara3603
6 жыл бұрын
To my ears, the addition of the Ab and the Dm7b5 shifts the whole thing to the key of C minor (Dm7b5 is actually the ii in a minor 2-5-1 progression). Resolving back C major gives a more resounding conclusion. ^_^ just an observation
@MangoldProject
6 жыл бұрын
Yes. They are both borrowed chords from a parallel minor key, so your observation is not surprising.
@stephaneroulet7722
6 жыл бұрын
hello and thanks, at 3:50 time why the F was substitute by a Ab ?
@MangoldProject
6 жыл бұрын
Because it works ...
@stephaneroulet7722
6 жыл бұрын
ok thanks
@dsleech
7 жыл бұрын
I don't know how he chooses Ab from C major as a progression.
@MangoldProject
7 жыл бұрын
Not every single thing can be rationalized from a music theory perspective (or, if it can, it's very convoluted). Some things you just "learn" by hearing, liking and repeating.
@GabeSyme
7 жыл бұрын
You can think of Ab as being borrowed from the C minor scale (Fm and Dm7b5 are also from there), and it works because they share the note C. Modulating from major to minor is a pretty good source of interesting sounds.
@3maisons
6 жыл бұрын
C -> F -> Fm6 is easier to hear than C -> F -> Dm7b5
@nosson77
5 жыл бұрын
Ab chord is boroughed from the Cm or the Eb scale which has the Bb note in it.
@ivansoto9723
2 жыл бұрын
It's borrowed from the parallel minor. I recognized it from remembering bVI bVII I. The super mario cadence lol.
@monsieurbrochant7528
7 жыл бұрын
So these yellow chords all come from the parallel key of C major which is C minor right?
@MangoldProject
7 жыл бұрын
Well, yes, but that wasn't my intention. I just used yellow to signify chords which were added or substituted.
@monsieurbrochant7528
7 жыл бұрын
Sure, I was just trying to outline a relation and understand why these chords seem to "work" despite being "off-key"
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