Yes. Deathloop and Dishonored are connected. The Outsider in Dishonored died in the 1850s, and the loop in Deathloop began in the 1960s. By the time Colt finally breaks the loop, it's the 2200s. The sky at the end of this game is the result of The Void dimension taking over, like the Outsider said it would.
@MegaCygnusX1
2 жыл бұрын
No. This might be your headcanon, more power to you, but there is nothing to confirm it. Easter Eggs are just that, and every developer references previous games. You assert "yes" but provide no actual evidence except for your own (very tenuous) link. The Void is black, pure darkness. The end of the loop has dayglo red and orange sky. Kinda shoots your theory down.
@yokai1235
2 жыл бұрын
@@MegaCygnusX1 but if the orange it's because the sun is inside the void
@ScourJful
2 жыл бұрын
@@MegaCygnusX1 Well considering that there was a presentation on the game early on that had it directly connected to the Dishonored universe, the fact that there's references to oil cartridge weaponry, something that was specific to Dishonored, and Harriet's experience that is eerily similar to those who have experienced the void, it's pretty clear Deathloop is meant to have some connection to Dishonored. Not to mention the fact that Deathloop mentions motherland, which is a common Russian terminology for country and pre-release documents show that Blackreef is set on an island off of Tyvia, the Russian equivalent in Dishonored. The fact that a lot of Dishonored props are kept in dusty places indicate old furniture just being stored elsewhere. A lot of the residuum and Slabs reuse sounds from Runes in Dishonored. In Egor's experiment, you can hear a whale which is relevant considering the prevalence of whale oil as a major use of power and supply for Dishonored tech and weaponry. The biggest hint is the guns used by Julianna and Colt at the end of the game being oil cartridges and having designs near identical to the guns in Dishonored. Especially with Julianna's line about how they're antiques now. This lines up again with the pre-release presentation of the game in concept that specifically had the game set decades after the "Death of the Outsider". Overall, there's Easter eggs, and then there's just flat out tying those things into the games own background lore. Especially since the lore has Colt act similar to the Outsider in the very first loop where he is anchored to it. The anomaly acts so similarly to the void not to mention its powers granted to the Visionaries are near identical animations and usage of Dishonored's Runes. It'd be an Easter egg if it was one or few things, but to have oil cartridge guns with designs similar to Dishonored's guns and Julianna calling them antiques indicates that it's not just references. You don't just put references in the lore of your game and just say it's Easter eggs. It's beyond that. It's subtle, but compiling all the lore of Deathloop leads to a staggering overlap in the in universe laws and history of Dishonored. From the experiences of the void, to its powers, to Dishonored being an entirely empirical system and Deathloop mentioning prominently about the fall of empires, etc. It's just way too much of Dishonored coded into the lore and universe rules in Deathloop that Deathloop is closer to being set in the world of Dishonored than it being a standalone game. imgur.com/a/oPiPBs0 Here's a link to the leaked presentation of the premise of the game. Not to mention that the Death of the Outsider also causes the Void to freak the fuck out as well which is why your statement of it couldn't be the Void cause it is orange is null. We don't know what the Void looks like anymore. In fact, the Void specifically goes haywire and becomes mixed with reality. So honestly, the theory isn't shot down at all. Not to mention that according to the pre release info, the ending of the game where Colt breaks the loop is in the 2200s. *There's an overwhelming amount of evidence that proves that Dishonored and Deathloop take place in the same universe than there is evidence to disprove it*
@ten-ka433
2 жыл бұрын
@@ScourJful God damn, this man absolutely demolished a guy. Respect.
@HangedBigD
2 жыл бұрын
You can find an audio recording of the sea shanty sang if the 1st dishonored as well.
@joshchu
2 жыл бұрын
just in case anyone missed it, by examining the map and scale model of the blackreef will indicate that the blackreef island is just a part of the karnaca after sea level rises. you can practically sees the sideview of shindaerey peak at the complex, and you can clearly sees the weird canyon terrain of the peak in the scaled model at fristad rock.
@Alexmw777
Жыл бұрын
the parts of the complex around the armory that are built into the rock formations are incredibly similar to inner parts of the shindaerey quarry map from death of the outsider
@gianlucazinarof8617
8 ай бұрын
How do you reconcile Blackreef's cold, almost polar climate with Serkonos' clearly Mediterranean one?
@trainman5675
8 ай бұрын
Here's a better answer from the devs. Off the coast of tyvia
@obsidianwarrior5580
2 жыл бұрын
I believe the break the loop ending has to be the canon one, like Colt said he only has to win once, eventually it's the inevitable outcome.
@tamsirjames3793
2 жыл бұрын
@@WoutervanderMeulentrue
@sommer4570
2 жыл бұрын
tbh all endings are canon, ending where you dont kill Julianna and keep the loop happened many times already and every time Colt forgets and wants to break the loop again and again and again until he does it for real
@CLove511
11 ай бұрын
That's why I didn't hesitate to shoot her in the face one "One...." The game makes it abundantly clear that Colt has gone in circles and come back to this point again and again. Staying in the loop only delays coming full circle again, Colt remembering why he wants to break the loop, as the other Colts fracture and deteriorate. Players who stayed in the loop just haven't looped enough, but they will get there eventually. There is only one ending.
@alexbajada6580
2 жыл бұрын
This is great! I was getting so confused with all the code names of the visionaries and names of the spys. This was the straightforward explanation I needed as all the documents I found were not in order and I would do other side things and then get so lost because the UI doesn't store documents together in categories they just get stored in order of how you find them which was the only thing I didn't like. This is such a great game, I love how deep the story goes if you're willing to look.
@thekal2851
Жыл бұрын
You know what? I’ve spotted the door hidden under the cliff, and I’ve been trying to ring the bell once every moment of the loop in Fristad Rock. I have never understood how to open it and never gone further in the left to discover the bunker entrance 😅 Thank you! I’ll be prepared to enjoy more Deathloop secrets 😊
@Case_
Жыл бұрын
It's such a shame all of this is hidden behind an obscure line of secrets that quite literally start with a rather hidden crack in the wall, a one that you can miss so easily...
@richardchaney7295
4 ай бұрын
Agreed, even after 50 hours I hadn't found the other two codes for this door. The secrets, however clever they are, are just too well hidden for the average person to find. But the main game is still great, and I loved it.
@MrKidtendo64
23 күн бұрын
I only found this hidden door after playing 30 hours all because I searching around the map for for the guys lacking clothes. No idea how deep this Secret actually went
@Nergalsama01
2 жыл бұрын
Is it just me or do the stories of both Prey and Deathloop feel like really long, really elaborate episodes of the Twilight Zone?
@Justin-ym5ce
2 жыл бұрын
SPOILER AHEAD: When you do break the loop it actually does look like a post apocalyptic world that was destroyed, kinda made me think it might’ve been better to stay in the loop
@kingcyclops4079
2 жыл бұрын
At least you still have your slab powers
@trodenn4977
2 жыл бұрын
@@kingcyclops4079 Doesn't Colt lose it the moment he entered the final room to confront the boss?
@kingcyclops4079
2 жыл бұрын
@@trodenn4977 I'm pretty sure Julianna just had that slab disabler thing like in Frank's studio.
@trodenn4977
2 жыл бұрын
@@kingcyclops4079 but doesnt the thing in Frank's stuido simply make you have one life before reseting the loop? When you meet juliana in the end, your slab power literally fly off from you
@gebys4559
2 жыл бұрын
@@trodenn4977 you can kill her before coming in through the door from afar and keep the slabs, story is unchanged though
@VirtualShogun
Жыл бұрын
Are you kidding me? So if I just spammed the door bell I would have gotten in by accident?
@nickoevolution482
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for making these kinds of videos man...Deathlooop is a very intriguing game, a seeing secrets which I didn't see the first time round makes it that much better. Anyways, all the best!
@marleyharris4842
2 жыл бұрын
This is awesome. Finished the game and loved it. Was looking for this kind of video to see what I've missed. Thanks!
@ziggiey
2 жыл бұрын
Cowxhop?
@michaelmarkrealrumahorbo1075
2 жыл бұрын
My theory is that bc Billie lurk from dishonored killed the outsider, it causes an anomaly of time in black reef which once was called "Karnaca" due to no one control the origin of the place.
@noxamillion4514
2 жыл бұрын
Hate to break it to ya, but devs said it wasn’t connected to Dishonored. Would’ve been nice though
@VideoGameSophistry
2 жыл бұрын
It’s very clearly connected to Dishonoured. There are early dev documents that prove this.
@noxamillion4514
2 жыл бұрын
Hmm, ill have to double check. I could’ve sworn that they said it wasn’t connected
@fluffywolfo3663
2 жыл бұрын
@@noxamillion4514 They did, but I'm also pretty sure they lied so we didn't go in thinking "Oh wow, another dishonored game!"
@qualityegg
2 жыл бұрын
@@fluffywolfo3663 They probably said that so people wouldnt think this isn't some kind of sequel. also hinting at it maybe being related would kill the fun of finding all of these things. But it is pretty clear that all these tiny things that are clearly related to dishonored aren't just some small easter eggs placed for fun. (in my opinion at least)
@CrazyDude269
2 жыл бұрын
Holy. F'in. Sheet. I finished Deathloop yesterday and i gotta say... i really love Arkane studios man...
@jakehunter8
2 жыл бұрын
Gotta give Akrane credit... they really put in work with the game... loving the hidden easter eggs and spy work it takes to uncover them. #JakeHunter88
@drethom087
2 жыл бұрын
Is your name a reference to something?
@jakehunter8
2 жыл бұрын
@@drethom087 yes my socials to follow
@drethom087
2 жыл бұрын
@@jakehunter8 oh ok, I saw the hashtag and wasn’t sure if I had missed something. Are you a gamer or media personality of some sort? I’d definitely follow
@Nopalmtreez
2 жыл бұрын
Somehow I didn't do the doorbells or any of this stuff but managed to brute force my way through the locked spy room door and got all the info there I was so confused as to what I did or how I even got there but glad to know there's actually steps and a quest to follow! Great video really informative
@ambiouse
2 жыл бұрын
Did you spend time dialing the code and waiting for each combination to pass the check?))) That's insane
@Nopalmtreez
2 жыл бұрын
@@ambiouse pretty much yes! I got the first 2 set fairly easily somehow, and the 3rd one took maybe 5 minutes of just messing around
@Howthetoastcrumbled
2 жыл бұрын
You use the wrong formula but somehow get the correct answer. Congrat
@captainwade373
Жыл бұрын
I just did the same thing last night because in my brain, it was too much work to get the codes and easier to brute force 😅 it worked, only took like 30ish minutes
@YumanoidPontifex
2 жыл бұрын
yup, they've been fucking around with time, multi-verse, you know, all that quantum shit. they were somehow able to peek into a parallel universe - the dishonored universe. there's probably more clues in the game than i have managed to find, but i suppose this is somehow a way (a very easter-eggy way) to explain the similarities between the slab skills in the deathloop universe and the outsider's gifts skills in the dishonored universe, etc.
@jarrodvirant7811
2 жыл бұрын
I’ll be waiting for this video explaining how Dishonored and Deathloop are in the same universe!!! 👍
@planning9930
2 жыл бұрын
I mean the antique pistols at the end of the game are the same flintlock pistols that were in all dishonor games... and they have similar powers to those given to people by the outsider. That’s all I’ve got tho there could be more
@masterzoroark6664
2 жыл бұрын
@@planning9930 Conections I see: The dueling pistols at the ending The bullets in heritage gun (I think they are oil based. Even if it's shot woth electricity, heretige means you inherit it from someoke old) The "Motherland"- from what I understand, when the country had an Empress or Queen people refer to it as the Motherland, and Empire in Dishonored was lead by Empress, on many times. On more iffy note: The tune of drunken whaler being something in world. As for anomaly and slabs- I personaly think that it's a breach to The Void, probably pried open from a crack by Horizon. As for the slabs- you could say they are manmade Outsider powers. I presume they are less... Varried because of the fact they are manmade or because they "conect" to certain personal qualities
@aidzomd2159
2 жыл бұрын
The devs have confirmed they are separate universes.
@theangryimp1345
2 жыл бұрын
@@aidzomd2159 no they've neither confirmed it or denied it. It's got a hell of a lot of ester eggs if it's not and in important sense like the ending when it even says it got you're eyes and you're told it's worth remembering.
@Icecastles4000
2 жыл бұрын
@@aidzomd2159 booo
@christinagarrett5815
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks! I found the bunker but didn’t catch the radio clues. And didn’t connect it to the doorbells. This helps.
@Komega01
2 жыл бұрын
i think Blackreef might be a piece of one the islands of dunwall transported somewhere else the planet dishonored took place on was never fully explored in fact i think all of arkane lyons games should all take place on one planet have a kind of legend of zelda thing going on
@Kommander696
2 жыл бұрын
“Sounds old. Something like my granny used to listen to.” Could this be Granny Rags?
@Kommander696
2 жыл бұрын
I also get the strangest feeling that the recording taken from the transmission tower could be a little sister from BioShock. Is eerie enough to potentially be that and is part of the multiverse.
@tamsirjames3793
2 жыл бұрын
@@Kommander696 huh
@xeibei4804
Жыл бұрын
@@Kommander696 nah its the song used in the trailer of the Dishonored dlc knife of dunwall. They say "What do you do with a drunking whaler" whalers are dauds assassins.
@corypowercat7277
Жыл бұрын
She never had kids. (Hated her husband and no mentions of them.) Would also be great grandma.
@pandyssianrat
Жыл бұрын
DEATHLOOP takes place in the future of Dishonored (confirmed by the creative director of DEATHLOOP).
@mcdonaldgibberish6533
Жыл бұрын
I randomly stumbled upon the updaam spy base, I saw the doorbell and just spammed it till it opened
@TheArchitect097
Жыл бұрын
This video could have been elevated so much if you'd read out the many walls of text.
@AsbestosMuffins
2 жыл бұрын
ya I really wish I had done this spy mission first but man was this interesting
@e2b265
Жыл бұрын
A game I love so much and want to play more, yet some secrets I just want to watch KZitem videos instead of find them.
@fdragon0216
7 ай бұрын
The doorbell is not working for me. Its just not opening the door in Updaam
@TheGreatCrusade
2 жыл бұрын
holy grail , this is really crazy i've got ending but i should play more for this really impressive
@justindixon1586
2 жыл бұрын
This would be an awesome adult cartoon like archer
@superbmegachaos
2 жыл бұрын
Ring the doorbell exactly 15 times to open the door
@corypowercat7277
Жыл бұрын
I wonder when it says Spymaster if it is a referral to the Spymasters of Dunwall?
@samuelj5890
2 жыл бұрын
such a cool story, nice video explanation too, thanks
@giligash9174
2 жыл бұрын
You can get in the first door in the video by pressing the doorbell 10 times. Noticed the door while playing and spammed the doorbell and it opened and gave me a message. Been trying to open every door with a doorbell that way but doesn't work it seems haha
@blob2092
Жыл бұрын
this depends on each player, for some it may be 10, others 18 or 19 or something
@shortfuse9443
2 жыл бұрын
Whats that music playing at the end? I never played Dishonored
@RHaenJarr
2 жыл бұрын
"Drunken Whaler". A Dishonored version of real life's "Drunken Sailor" shanty
@Dorff_Meister
Жыл бұрын
I didn't notice it until my third full playthrough.
@johnvermintide
2 жыл бұрын
Finally .. an actual explanation abt the whole shebang Also i think this is technically dishonored 3
@nadimsafwan
2 жыл бұрын
So you’re telling me i could’ve finished the game within 3-5hours instead of spending 30h+ to find the clues and linking them?
@boomdaddycool4328
2 жыл бұрын
I feel u I did the same thing I put in 45 hrs of work into this game, 10 or so of those hours was from idling standing around, cuz when u pause if your in multi-player mode it just keeps going, I'm not tripping though cuz I enjoyed every min of the game
@viagrabuffalo5141
2 жыл бұрын
All of this leading up do a dishonored easteregg lol.
@unholyzeus7363
Жыл бұрын
Heeeee’s a revenant
@namenotfound617
2 жыл бұрын
This is my issue with Deathloop’s story. I get that adding little tidbits is fun, but this “incredible hidden lore” should have been more front and center because the main story as a whole is extremely barebones.
@bobdole3251
2 жыл бұрын
This 👍I’m not going back to the game I’m just gana watch on KZitem thanks arcane studio lol 😂
@inyrui
2 жыл бұрын
Dishonored was the same though and people loved it. Same with Dark Souls or Elden Ring lol
@saturatedwithsound
2 жыл бұрын
what are we hearing at the end on that tape that makes it linked to dishonored?
@Planerize
2 жыл бұрын
Drunken Whaler - Soundtrack of Dishonored
@saturatedwithsound
2 жыл бұрын
@@Planerize thank you
@olibob203
2 жыл бұрын
Just found your channel it's ace :)
@gahngis8158
2 жыл бұрын
discovered the place in updaam by just pressing buttons
@bostontowny4life744
2 жыл бұрын
1. Why exactly was there a million colts and Juliannas? 2. Were there ever alien visitors? A few times throughout the game I read something about “contacting visitors” 3. What exactly is the loop? Where did it come from? 4. How long have they been in the loop during the events of the game? Has the outside world come to an end? 5. If the people in the game forget everything after each loop why when I hear NPCs talk to eachother I hear them making plans for the “next loop”? 6. This is the part that doesn’t make sense. If they’re living the same day over and over, when exactly did Colt decide to break the loop? Because he was the head of security, so there was a time when he was the head of security within the loop, but how is that possible when he wakes up everyday on the beach wanting to destroy the loop? What was before. When did Wenjie begin her experiment if thee reliving the same day? You get what I’m saying? It’s hard for me to explain my question, like how could Colt have “betrayed” the visionaries if they’ve been living the same day over and over. This is all just very confusing. 7. Are they aware that they’re forgetting each loop? Because if not why did Charlie program 2-bit to remember? Why is Wenjie studying like she’s going to get anywhere. Ugh thinking about this makes my head hurt.
@chaimera086
2 жыл бұрын
Bunch of questions, and I can't answer all of them due to time for some and just not fully understanding myself yet for others, but 2-BIT as I understand it from the game, is able to remember due to his processing being powered by the part of Charlie's brain that he removed to help it, and the part he removed and put inside of 2-BIT was the part of the brain related to empathy. The game tells us that the reason that Colt and Julianna remember has something to do with with the emotional pain of repeated death and that Julianna had to kill Colt brutally to get him back to remembering between loops. So not a full answer for you, but there you go.
@angryjelly7025
2 жыл бұрын
1. Alternative universes. 2. Don't know what you mean by "alien", but there were visitors from alternative universes 3. Nobody knows. Blackriff has a weird time distortion anomaly, and nobody knows the origins of it. The loop itself is created by the visionaries (Wenjie in question) to grant themselves eternal life. 4. It is most certainly written somewhere, but I don't know. And the world does end outside of it, as we see in the ending where Colt kill all visionaries, including himself and Julianna. 5. NPCs aren't aware that they forget the events of the last loop. They think that each loop they just wake up with all the knowledge of the past time, but any physical changes reverse to the time before the beginning. 6. First, Colt is one of the few that actually remember the previous loops, possibly because he is a veteran of the "Horizon" project, which studied the same anomaly. Colt himself flew into the center of the anomaly on the special ship, and while everyone thought he was dead, he was actually in a loop similar to the one in game. What happened there is unknown, but after escaping from the loop (by killing himself) he was then recruited by the IEON project. This is why he remembers previous loops and others don't. Second, originally colt had no intention of destroying the loop. He wanted to use the anomaly to bring back his dead love, but everyone forgetting what they learnt during the loop made it impossible. Than, Colt learned that Julianna was his daughter, and he tried to make her remember the events of the previous loops too, by the only method he could think of - killing her over and over. Surprisingly, it worked, but Julianna now saw Colt only as an enemy, and the loop as a perfect playground for their hide and seek with Colt. Each morning she alarmed everyone, that Colt wanted to destroy the loop. Eventually, Colt started losing memories because he was killed over and over by everyone in the loop, and then the events of the game start. 7. They don't, but Wenjie had come to a conclusion that they don't remember anything - sadly, only after the loop was already started. So she starts working on a way to keep their memory, than day ends, and she forgets everything. Over and over again. About 2-BIT... I actually don't know, but it is possible that Charlie didn't make him remember events of previous loops - it just so happens that he can.
@falsaai
2 жыл бұрын
@@angryjelly7025 thank you so much for your answers. That was very informative. Such a great game.
@joshmartin8243
2 жыл бұрын
I would prefer if you read the notes. I'm not always looking at the screen.
@VideoGameSophistry
2 жыл бұрын
I do normally but there are WAY too many this time around
@joshmartin8243
2 жыл бұрын
@@VideoGameSophistry fair enough. 🤷
@everythingatlasgamingandmo1386
2 жыл бұрын
No stream
@N1k4_Gr1v
7 ай бұрын
22:22 Emily?
@ChiroTheHero
2 жыл бұрын
Good God those csh app tax ads are cancer. I never thought of and never will file taxes with them thanks to those adverts
@Chillmixz
2 жыл бұрын
It’s not working for me it’s just causing a distraction
@Chillmixz
2 жыл бұрын
Any one help
@akshatbisenbisen7292
2 жыл бұрын
hey spartan , your channel is awesome , cultural and superior thanks to youtube , i got your channel now i want theories and secrets behind the games PSYCHONAUTS 2 , DEATH's door , 12minutes , THE ASCENT , CALL OF THE SEA DARK PICTURES ANTHOLOGIES games
@kaptenteo
Жыл бұрын
I'm personally not a fan of connected universes in game series, so even if there's some proof stating otherwise, I'll headcanon that Dishonored and Deathloop are separated, accepting these things as nothing more than easter eggs.
@MrUmbra-ts6se
Жыл бұрын
In case people haven't pick up on it. That line talking about Colt's age after he left the first loop - that means that in ending where Colt breaks the loop it HAD to be years forward. The notes made by Wanjie states that based on her calculations the loop will loose energy in 13000 years + . And Juliana implies to Colt that they spend time in this loop for nearly a century. So that means that loop creates something like a tide that will push things through space time eventually spitting them out in another world at another point in space time. And also means that Golden Loop ending is stupid and is (hopefully) not canon.
@gray_ex1893
Жыл бұрын
Here we go! Sit back relax and grap a blunt. About to enjoy some lore explaining from VGS
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