"it's a low bar, but that's the bar" Another great quote hidden in your content.
@ultimaetsolder
4 ай бұрын
Low brow.
@latinballa88
4 ай бұрын
5 Bar
@Mike.thiswatchthatwatch
4 ай бұрын
😂😂
@europaexplorer1
3 ай бұрын
I like this, can be a team building slogan!!
@nilswartemann611
4 ай бұрын
Subtle, dry humor paired with tons of information all wrapped up in a no-nonsense presentation. I cannot believe that this is „free content“. Amazing work Mike.
@Mike.thiswatchthatwatch
4 ай бұрын
Wow, thank you! 😀
@denis888red
4 ай бұрын
You nailed it Nils. Sitting here watching in Kathmandu 😮 Absolutely love Mike's channel and never miss an episode. Super quality insight and watch nerd presentation!
@rolandlickert2904
4 ай бұрын
In my free time, I was a Dive instructor we talked 30-40 years ago with 1280 dives under my belt. I used only Seiko and Citizen which at that time cost 300 to 400US Dollar . They did the job and never let me down! If you are a serious diver, there is no need to buy a luxury Dive watch but some people have plenty of money to spend.
@underachievingwatchcollect1878
4 ай бұрын
Hi I’m Mike and it’s been 139 days since my last watch purchase……………and the 12 step meeting continues 😎!
@woozertoo
4 ай бұрын
HI MIKE
@patrik3450
4 ай бұрын
I saw him at the AD in Copenhagen 3 weeks ago. 😅 strangely enough he didn’t buy a watch? They knew him by first name there
@verynormalman
4 ай бұрын
There's some great watches, at reduced prices out there. It's time to buy! A watch collection limit is just a number. Go out a smash it. Perhaps you could move some old ones on?
@Mike.thiswatchthatwatch
4 ай бұрын
@patrik3450 Lol.... Yeah. I have unfortunately bought at retail too many times at the local AD. I'm sure I have a checkbox in their database that says "easy mark"... 😀😀😂 Was there to sell a watch and have them order something else that should join my collection in a couple of weeks time... 😀
@verynormalman
4 ай бұрын
@@Mike.thiswatchthatwatch I was being light hearted, acknowledging the addiction, in a humourous way....... hopefully. When you have 3+ watches, the problems start.
@TheAussiePencil
4 ай бұрын
Aside from water resistance and a rotating bezel, I'd say LUME is a must! And good amounts of it :) Love your videos, thanks for posting!
@DadeMurphie
2 ай бұрын
Have you tried tritium tube dials?
@TheLute70
Ай бұрын
The only time I care about lume is when I'm in the movie theater. When I was in the Marine Corps we put tape over our watches to disguise the lume at night.
@DadeMurphie
29 күн бұрын
@@TheLute70 I'm actually looking for good no lume watches now. Even the best lume is useless after dusk.
@bkksniffer4933
4 ай бұрын
Best and highest quality watch youtuber I have ever seen. Thumbs up 👍👍
@Mike.thiswatchthatwatch
4 ай бұрын
Thank a ton 😀😀
@vkulkarn78
4 ай бұрын
My beater dive watch is the Casio Duro (MDV106-1A). 200m, feels decent on the wrist, good bezel action. $50, reliable, and good on an actual dive. I’ve got other dive watches - Seiko, Christopher Ward, and Tudor… but my Duro is my beater. When I dive I wear my dive computer on one wrist, and my Duro on the other.
@bernardocoto8519
3 ай бұрын
Amen to that. When I'm wearing my Duro I'm truely enjoy my watch because I don't really care what I'm doing, if it gets a scratch, whatever. And it feels like a million dollars on my wrist since I put it on a metal bracelet from Aliexpress...
@dblh84
4 ай бұрын
Another fantastic video, Mike. It warms my heart to see your number of subscribers gradually continue to rise day after day; you're absolutely killing it and your numbers reflect just that. Cheers from Texas.
@Mike.thiswatchthatwatch
4 ай бұрын
Glad to hear you enjoy my vids. Been a while since I last was in Texas. I believe I was inebriated, lying on an inner tube floating down a river as far as I recall.... 😀
@dannysimenauer5745
4 ай бұрын
As usual Mike did a fantastic job answering the question of why dive watches are so popular. Using the KIS approach I would add that dive watches are so popular because they are a true sports watch! Whether you wear a dive watch on land or swim in the pool or snorkel in the ocean or are a sports or professional diver, there is a watch for you. No other watch says "sporty" like a dive watch!
@WestCoastAce27
4 ай бұрын
🤝 to me a sports watch means ‘numbers on the bezel’; chronos are a different variant - the sport is car racing. To me the APs & Patek Aquanauts are just sporty dress watches.
@dannysimenauer5745
4 ай бұрын
@@WestCoastAce27 FYI...they call it a sports watch because sports watches are tool watches. They were made for use, worn by athletes, adventurers or soldiers - or for timing the likes of athletic events and even scientific endeavors. They're watches of action. They were made to endure rough conditions.
@WestCoastAce27
4 ай бұрын
You didn’t say ‘let’s dive in!’ 🤣 Great perspectives. Bond switching from the wet suit to the tux in Dr No in his Submariner set the diver up as the best all arounder. 139 days? That’s ridiculous. I’ve bought 3… or is it 4? 😀
@user-zi7oi5ju4x
4 ай бұрын
Wish I had the money for just one
@Mike.thiswatchthatwatch
4 ай бұрын
😂
@ataberknalcakar
4 ай бұрын
Just bought a boring diver - the Tudor Pelagos 39 in titanium. Although it does not do anything different than the rest, it just checks all the boxes for me and fits my lifestyle. I guess that is exactly why this category is so popular as you said. Not risky and can be worn anywhere. It is just an easy choice.
@koolpep
4 ай бұрын
I have mine for a year now and love it to bits. One of my most worn divers. I got the uncle straps jubilee titanium bracelet on it and it’s sooo cool. It is such a nice watch. It competes and holds up well with my other dive watches Blancpain Bathyscaphe, Breitling SuperOcean arrow hand (2009) and even my VC overseas…..
@saodavi6267
4 ай бұрын
I think the Pelagos is doing something different. Lume plot markers, titanium, fixed lugs, the lumed bezel, matte ceramic bezel, and a few other design cues weren't very common when the watch was originally released.
@WestCoastAce27
4 ай бұрын
Love mine. It’s a Sub, but lighter and even more masculine looking - and I used the leftover $7k for an international trip in Biz class.
@bashirahmed2639
4 ай бұрын
Love my Pelegos LHD. One and done!!
@kylelundy7870
4 ай бұрын
@@koolpep I'm right there with you. I've had my Pelagos 39 about a year and like it more now than when I bought it.
@joshreyneveldiv187
4 ай бұрын
I love the new Zenith divers, they are doing something different and I applaud them for it!
@JeffreyMcMahon
4 ай бұрын
Love your videos. Congrats on the 139-day hiatus from watch buying. My favorite diver is the gunmetal Seiko LX SNR043/SBDC037, but only 200 exist.
@C.M.Cummings
4 ай бұрын
I like how you added the “x days since last watch purchase”. Let’s see what happens to that number after a couple more months.
@Mike.thiswatchthatwatch
4 ай бұрын
Not quite sure if I want it to reset or not 😂😂
@malikknows3510
4 ай бұрын
Many good points here. Thank you. One related, but slightly off-topic idea that comes to mind idea is that brands need, at their core, an icon. Almost Rolex' entire line-up (Explorer, Submariner, Daytona) are icons where the design can be traced back several generations and the purchase is seen in that continuum. Changes to these watches are iterative. To purchase a Submariner today, for example, is a choice to join in an historical progression, to become a part of a storied, popular history. At a glance, a modern Submariner is a successor to the first models produced. Doxa Sub 300s are also icons. You buy one today, and you've established a connection with Jacques Cousteau and Clive Cussler. For Seiko Willards, also, their military history is a link to the past where the purchaser becomes part of the story. This is where Omega is flailing. Their only icon is the Speedmaster, imho, and its not a diver. The Seamaster has come in so many different styles and configurations that none are truly iconic. Iconography and our respect for traditional forms represents a deep-seated human desire, perhaps representing stability and permanence in an often chaotic world. The most successful watches understand this, imho. All the best.
@eyeheartsushi2212
4 ай бұрын
You’re absolutely right about the icons. Lately I’ve been considering getting rid of my Breitling Superocean Heritage which I never really bonded with and get the Navitimer instead.
@Mike.thiswatchthatwatch
4 ай бұрын
Agree - I think most brands try to chase that elusive icon. Everybody would like their "submariner" or "reverso" to prop up their brand. But only so many can be iconic 😊
@martintanz9098
4 ай бұрын
I disagree about the SMP 300. Imo, it absolutely is an icon.
@etebol
3 ай бұрын
The Doxa Sub 300 is on my list of to buy watches.
@Spartacus-hc9xt
4 ай бұрын
Your point on specs don’t sell they just drive up the cost is (for the most part) very true and I never thought about it that way. I’m wearing a Pelagos 39, which has 200m of water resistance. Would I have been more likely to buy it at 300m? No, I bought it for the materials, design, and build quality. It’s not often in a video someone says something, I take a step back and say wow they are right … I didn’t know that’s what sold me on the product. Great job, keep on making these amazing videos please!
@happywanderer5632
4 ай бұрын
I think most people don't dive with a Submariner, but I did. Dived all over the world for over 40 years with my beloved Subby. Looks as good now as it did when I bought it :)
@Mike.thiswatchthatwatch
4 ай бұрын
A rare actual submariner that submarined.... 😀😀💪
@BenNS1971
4 ай бұрын
It’s a joy to listen to your views. And it’s hard not to agree :). Personally, my divers are more in the entry level luxury or premium segment and my dress watches, chronographs and GMTs are higher-end. I’m just more comfortable with a slightly lower end diver. That being said, I do prefere my more expensive pieces to fly a bit under the radar, maybe that’s why I prefere dress/casual pieces at the higher end. Cheers from Portugal (just got back from Mozambique)
@mohamedbalman5939
4 ай бұрын
I believe a compass is a must in any practical dive watch . The casio frogman is the one u really need when it comes to diving .
@DrBob0910
4 ай бұрын
As always, your analysis is superb! Thank you for your hard work and dedication to the hobby.
@pauloliver6813
4 ай бұрын
I agree with you about the Sinn Hydro having specs that are incredibly niche. That said, a standard U50 has unique looks (well, comparatively) and very good specs and is also very wearable (just 11mm thickness). I think Sinn should be applauded for that combination.
@andal7404
4 ай бұрын
Speaking of Sinn, any news about on the supposedly new navitimer.
@Mike.thiswatchthatwatch
4 ай бұрын
The Sinn U50 is killer. It is on my shortlist 😊😊
@TheLute70
Ай бұрын
I have a U50 with a bracelet and I find myself wearing it more and more. Especially on the weekend. The fact that it basically indestructible is a plus also. Finally, I love the dial with the squared off hands and markers.
@swampThaang
4 ай бұрын
At a certain point as a collector it is tempting to want to graduate from the generic sub to the more niche fifty fathoms - but even price aside how do you reconcile a tool watch having those materials and finishing? It is like paying extra for features that undermine the very idea of the diver concept.
@rabtrekker
4 ай бұрын
Excellent content as always. I can't imagine parting with my BB54 😊
@koolpep
4 ай бұрын
Hi! Today I actually had the Bremont SUPERMARINE in my hand and wow. I was surprised. It’s really good. The 904L steel does indeed shine quite well and the bracelet and case are extremely well made. I was way more impressed than I would have thought. In hand it’s a brilliant watch.
@eyeheartsushi2212
4 ай бұрын
Interesting
@rfgf72
4 ай бұрын
I’m v curious to see it. I’m rooting for them and great to see a take from someone who’s actually seen the watch.
@Mike.thiswatchthatwatch
4 ай бұрын
I have a video coming out today about Bremont. In regards to the SM that I saw at W&W - I like it. It's good looking. I don't think it's going to be a smash hit like the BB was for tudor back in 2012 just because the competition is so much greater, but overall a very competently designed watch 😀
@koolpep
4 ай бұрын
@@Mike.thiswatchthatwatch Looking forward to see it. I also really liked the Terra Nova line but preferred the time only and Date versions as I am not a fan of a compass bezel. In my mind a very nice evolution of Bremont vs the doomsday scnearios from other people who often never had the watch in hand.
@walterlee4796
4 ай бұрын
Your channel, along with Watch Chris have become my two favorite to watch, excellent point of view as usual. 🙏🏾
@Mike.thiswatchthatwatch
4 ай бұрын
I appreciate that 😊😊
@larryp.450
4 ай бұрын
As a dive master with over 4 decades of experience, I started out with a Seiko Capt. Willard, and other brands before going to dive computers. The lesson I learned early was the value of a crown guard after tearing the crown off of a Certina as I was gearing up for a dive.
@stephenmundane
4 ай бұрын
The best conventional ultra-beater is likely the Casio MDV106 "Duro" -- 600,000 worldwide sales in the last 12 years or so.
@ultimaetsolder
4 ай бұрын
Its too cheap for a beater. Maybe disposable category. Can't take it seriously when Walmart clears it for $14.
@acruzp
4 ай бұрын
@@ultimaetsoldermine has been on around 10 dives so far and it's doing great. It has one single scratch and I wear it daily. I wouldn't call it disposable.
@StandAloneState
4 ай бұрын
@@ultimaetsolderdisposable means you use it a set number of times and it has to be thrown out (like nitrile gloves). What is the wear count and timeline until a Duro breaks/disintegrates?
@fiftyfour2061
4 ай бұрын
Yeah, thought it really odd to make this video without referencing the Duro.
@ultimaetsolder
4 ай бұрын
@@StandAloneState enjoy your $14 Casio.
@robertrocha597
4 ай бұрын
Great insight as always. I love your channel and content. Finally a channel that doesn't just cover Rolex or Tudor but pushes people to buck the trends.
@markikn3183
4 ай бұрын
You mentioned them without focusing on them, but your concluding passage (with which I agree, fwiw) points to why Sinn is successful. A distinctive style, sets them apart from the pack but instantly recognizable as "Premium Diver".
@palfor0
4 ай бұрын
Ah do your videos only come out on Saturdays? Now I can save time from refreshing and checking KZitem every day 😂
@ramjuneja6065
4 ай бұрын
The original JLC Polaris with the memovox and inner rotating bezel insert
@Rodisflawless
4 ай бұрын
That's why I love the Zenith DED. Fantastic looking diver that stands out in a sea of conforming designs.
@petrokersta5293
4 ай бұрын
ISO 6425:2018 Horology Divers' watches is an international standard for a dive watch. Many “true” Seiko dive watches have “Diver’s” on a dial. Meaning they are compliant to the ISO 6425. As is my Marathon GSAR. Then there are watches that have just the design clues of a dive watch. Newer Seiko SKX models come to mind. Steel Rolex Sub is still the dive watch for me regardless of the price. CWC dive watches look great imho. If you want a true pedigree for a reasonable price then there is Zodiac Sea Wolf. One of the OG dive watches alongside Blancpain FF and Rolex Sub.
@johnbrennan592
4 ай бұрын
Very good content, a distinct lack of stealth sales so common on KZitem watch channels.
@johanvandersandt8904
4 ай бұрын
Dive watches are fantastic! Great value and flexibility. Usually more experimental and robust and in spite of mine never going deeper than a meter or two, the reassurance the ISO ratings and water resistance brings make them tough great all rounders and GADA watches! Take care Mike!
@SpaceG95
4 ай бұрын
So, by your definition, my 43mm Aragon DiveMaster 4 EVO with Platinum MoP dial is a true GADA. Tough enough for work and play, yet it has the looks for a suit and tie. A $165 winner 🏆 😊
@nadgeemark
4 ай бұрын
After several years buying and owning dive watches I’ve realised I’ve turned away from the generic submariner look. The ones I’ve kept have been a Sinn, a Zelos bronze and a Marathon GSAR. It has just struck me that, unconsciously, I’ve been drawn to these watches BECAUSE they look different. They may be polarising but they definitely stand out and fulfil their role extremely well. Great discussion. I enjoyed it immensely. 👍🏼
@Mike.thiswatchthatwatch
4 ай бұрын
Glad to hear it 😀
@JimWestrich
4 ай бұрын
Thanks Mike. Loving your vids! Isn't lume (including on the seconds hand) not as well a criterion in addition to depth rating and bezel?
@Mike.thiswatchthatwatch
4 ай бұрын
Possibly. It could be there with the 200m and the bezel .😊
@chriscardwell3495
4 ай бұрын
Mike I really do enjoy your video insights into WATCHES and obviously the same ideas apply to many other products we buy! Taking your comments on dive watches, it shows why I enjoy my current car and the ideal replacement. Many thanks. The same ideas apply in the medical world although people do not realise the SCOPE available . . . average . . . or . . . ideal.
@richardlocke7264
4 ай бұрын
I like the looks of the Tuseno Shell back diver. Interesting design with the use of a sandwich dial, and incorporating the date. It looks in a rudimentary way like a Rolex sub (the looks say "I'm a drive watch!)...but NO, its design is fresh, and no one would mistake it for a Sub.
@eyeheartsushi2212
4 ай бұрын
Looks really cool!
@roamy3605
4 ай бұрын
I think I agree? I've ordered the V2 and looking forward to delivery. The last thing I need is another diver but I loved the Shell Back design so much that I caved, again.
@pedroramoa-xn6pb
4 ай бұрын
As usual, let's talk about diving watches without talking about Diving, or Divers ( professional or amateur) or certifications and what they mean. Why some watches have the word "diver" written on the dial and others don't. Are divers in general watch enthusiasts or collectors? Do they even use a dive watch or need it? I think people would be shocked about the number of Citizen promaster QUARTZ that actually goes on the wrist of professional divers when they go underwater and they have to take off the smart watch. Love your videos anyway 😉
@robertjones8974
Ай бұрын
Oh look! Captain Obvious is back!
@dissident_mantis7
4 ай бұрын
I must admit Seiko is probably the best right now in terms of churning out both unique and classic divers. I like the approach of using vintage designs with modern upgrades. I think the new 62mas 3 day is going to be a massive hit.
@Mike.thiswatchthatwatch
4 ай бұрын
Still haven't fixed accuracy, but I love their designs and the new SPB453 - wow... 😀😀
@BryanAckermann
4 ай бұрын
I own a pre-redesign Supermarine from Bremont, and it is one of my daily drivers. I held the new green Supermarine a couple of days ago from my local AD, and was very pleasantly surprised - it is MUCH better in person than in pictures - it is really very high quality for about a $1,000 less than the prior version. Yes, it is very traditional, and I am sad to see the unique case design of the predecessors leave the lineup, but properly marketed, I think it will do just fine - the new Supermarine solves for the "Bremont is too expensive for what you get" complaint and is still a very high quality watch in person. I also own a BB58 - different vibe, and now more expensive.
@woozertoo
4 ай бұрын
20+ years of collecting, and I'm finally branching out of my "Diver's" phase 😅
@eyeheartsushi2212
4 ай бұрын
LOL nice
@Mike.thiswatchthatwatch
4 ай бұрын
"They tried to make me go to rehab...." 😊
@vaughan2203
4 ай бұрын
Meanwhile, I branching out of chronos, and INTO divers 😅
@woozertoo
4 ай бұрын
@@vaughan2203 cheaper servicing costs, at least.
@weRchecking
4 ай бұрын
Love your content and style - would very much enjoy to hear your views of the AP Royal Oak Offshore Diver - thanks for all of your content creation
@MS-tg6hc
4 ай бұрын
I plan to be one of the few people buying the Zenith Defy revival diver
@aimonaidark
4 ай бұрын
I just noticed the MG Wing gundam kit on the back. I like building gunpla and because of the intricacies in details on some of the kit, I became appreciative on intricate detailed craftsmanship. This is why I started being fascinated by antique furniture, architecture and finally mechanical watches.
@knovelty79
4 ай бұрын
Important video. Change is good. Encourage innovation. I don't have anything like the extreme diver, but I will have one once it touches down in Las Vegas.
@nicholasyogatiger
4 ай бұрын
What would you recommend as a watch to wear while surfing or swimming but can also be worn at work or dressed up. Budget $150. I love the look of Blancpain 50 fathoms. Hate the swatch collaboration
@keesmeeuwsen2786
4 ай бұрын
It’s also crucial to have a seconds hand to be able to check that the watch is still running.
@steinhummer
4 ай бұрын
Another profound analysis, thank you, Sir. You always open up new perspectives. One short comment on Sinn's Hydro watches: The development goal was a watch that is readible under any angle under water. The 5000m WD is just a side effect.
@Mike.thiswatchthatwatch
4 ай бұрын
Thanks for sharing 😀
@simonmcguire4290
4 ай бұрын
Excellent take on the industry. I have the older iteration of the Longines Hydroconquest with a green dial and feel, whilst the new version is a nice watch, Longines have played it a bit too safe in my opinion with the updated model and the old watch had more unique styling when pitted against its similar priced competitors.
@gavinwhite9743
4 ай бұрын
Excellent as always. I'm wearing my Sub 14060 on a RubberB strap, very comfortable, very boring and I love it. Reality is, I don't need other watches with this, but have them because I enjoy watches. ( office watch, dress watch etc)
@theaj1nkya
4 ай бұрын
I see what you did Mike, an entire video on Divers and no mention of Omega Seamaster 300M. Well, since you give us an opportunity to state a Non Conventional Successful Diver, let me state the obvious, it is the 300M. While the Submariner design makes it the staple for Divers, 300M to me is the unique and yet massively popular one. A unique case, distinct lugs, distinct He escape valve (also shared in the Omega family though), distinct bezel (docagonal) and a very distinct and easily recognisable movement. This is the most mainstream yet one of the most distinct divers. You can recognise it from its shadow. PS 139 days of no purchase, implies a big purchase on the horizon?
@zaneperron
4 ай бұрын
I mean, does he really need to say anything about the Seamaster? The watch he's wearing says it all...
@theaj1nkya
4 ай бұрын
@@zaneperron great catch. Is it the No time to die version on a Nato?
@zaneperron
4 ай бұрын
Indeed, I know that watch anywhere lol. It's my favorite watch for daily wear. We all have great taste 👍
@Mike.thiswatchthatwatch
4 ай бұрын
Check my wrist 😉
@theaj1nkya
4 ай бұрын
@@Mike.thiswatchthatwatch Perfect mention without mentioning. Nice! 👌🏻
@cheesychester9647
4 ай бұрын
Best way to start my weekend
@MaartenAnna
4 ай бұрын
You can hydrofill a casio 200 h with silicone oil, and have a Water Resistance of 4000m+ for €35,- or so 😂 But my favourite divers are the Aquaracer night diver, 42mm case, and the 63MAS , 38mm case (both of which I built Seiko Mod homages in 40mm for).
@ericp2781
4 ай бұрын
I recently bought the Oris Aquis Bracenet. The relief bezel and super unique dial first grabbed my attention. But I keep finding more details, like the applied indices reflection of light or the subtle changes in the bracelet center link, that keeps holding my gaze.
@karimandkat
4 ай бұрын
Seiko does it well. They do both the conventional designs and esoteric designs at various different price points. Their brand heritage for divers is also top notch which trickles down to all their dive watches even if the specfic model deserves it or not.
@ataberknalcakar
4 ай бұрын
Thanks for the upload Mike
@stevehenrytagami4709
4 ай бұрын
I like a dive watch to be large and well designed, like the Willard or MM300 I also like a small slim skin diver, a black bay or 62 Mas Not interested in luxury in a diver but I am in a sports watch or dress
@EnglishTMTB
4 ай бұрын
One I do really like as a slightly different diver is the Rado Captain Cook. Its immediately recognisable as a dive watch... But then the doomed saphhire and in-sloping bezel mean it catches the light differently and feels both slightly more dainty and yet somehow rather like a nautical instrument in a way that really holds appeal on a watch which associates with water. Been tempted and not jumped, but I don't wear my diver all that much as it is.
@agill2103
4 ай бұрын
The new zenith and the panerai submersible, both look a bit different from the regular divers (tudor, rolex, monta, etc)
@Ullr-Zero-Kelvin
4 ай бұрын
Who is different in the dive space? Has to be Tudor, first they put out the Tudor P01, then the Tudor FXD. Two watches built to be dive tools first.
@jonholt2854
4 ай бұрын
I was not expecting to reflect philosophically about modern customs with the excuse of a talk about dive watches, but then I clearly understood why this channel is so interesting...
@Mike.thiswatchthatwatch
4 ай бұрын
Thank you. Hope you stick around 😃
@canadianwatchmonkey3992
4 ай бұрын
Here is my list of fantastic Dive watches, Longines Hydroconquest, Oris Aquis, Doxa sub 200, 300. Tudor BB58 and 41, Squale 50 Atmos Omega Seamaster, Rolex Submariner. Christopher Ward Trident line is great bang for the buck.
@EnglishTMTB
4 ай бұрын
These are some great, generally pretty conventional choices - and I do enjoy my Hydroconquest, but don't tend to wear it all that much... As a daily, my Formex Essence is a more comfortable proposition, so that gets more wrist time - and my Eterna Kontiki 4-hands is a more interesting/different dial so that tends to get work plenty too (and the bracelet on that is in a totally different league to the HC). There are divers I'd consider buying, but they'd have to be different enough (or much much nicer) to differentiate themselves from that fairly generic diver I already have - an Oris Aquis is a superb watch, but I don't really have much need of one... Something a bit different but not too out there, perhaps, as a "second diver" would be more tempting - I've always liked the Rado Captain Cook, for example, in that it's different enough to give a slightly different vibe whilst still immediately recognisably a dive watch with all the strengths that divers have.
@Mike.thiswatchthatwatch
4 ай бұрын
Lots of good options there 😀
@davidlashmanov4386
4 ай бұрын
Hey, I am diving for the last 20 years multiple PADI certifications, etc) But not earning money by it. And honestly dive computer is the only thing I am using underwater. For the hype or to “show off” that I am a diver (like it is something to be proud of) I would go for Aquastar (because of the history), Farer Endeavor Ocean White (you can use them as a back up time keeping during both night/day dives), almost any Oris (I would go with the depth gauge - at least something useful), CW C60 Elite 1000 (great value/price), or Rolex (because you can resell anytime and lose your money)
@Mike.thiswatchthatwatch
4 ай бұрын
Valid perspective - I would also never expect people to use anything other than a real dive computer... 😀
@TheAussiePencil
4 ай бұрын
I really enjoy your themed videos! I'd be interested to hear your thoughts on other categories: pilot watches, GADA watches, etc
@sasukeam-ih2pt
4 ай бұрын
I think Doxa, Seiko and partly Oris with their vintage divers 65 (vintage 12, 3, 6 and 9 markers) are doing a great job of offering something different.
@hunchoyush8889
4 ай бұрын
Thoughts on Seiko SPB 453 coming out next month Considering buying it as first self bought watch above $170 (aud) Bought a Casio Duro and love it I think it could be a great watch
@Mike.thiswatchthatwatch
4 ай бұрын
The 453 is much like the new black bay monochrome - A small update, with a lot of refinements. Personally I think it looks better than the spb143, but since I already have the 143 I don't find the 453 compelling enough to upgrade to. But if I didn't have either I'd likely go for the simpler looking 453.
@MrFantasypl
4 ай бұрын
As always you're adapt at puting your watcher's thoughs into words.
@Mike.thiswatchthatwatch
4 ай бұрын
Thanks 😊
@rvm1789
4 ай бұрын
Mike -- I encourage you to take a look at Serica, in particular the 5303 COSC Chronometre 300m diver. It has a design aesthetic unlike anything else I've seen -- part Art-Deco'ish, part modern -- and comes with an absolutely sublime mesh bracelet. About as "non-convergent" as any diver I've ever seen. Black enamel dial, dual ceramic/stainless steel bezel, soft-iron cage. Having recently acquired and experienced the 5303, I feel it punches well above its weight. Serica is a young (5 years old) Paris-based company taking an entirely different approach to watch design. Their 8315 GMT is also extremely unique. I'm tempted to pull the trigger on that one too.
@jroobz
4 ай бұрын
a seiko dive watch is a thing of beauty. i love my bb58 too
@austin73
4 ай бұрын
I recently picked up an Ocean Crowler Core Diver and for the price, I am beyond happy. It is surprising well finished, its different enough to stand out without getting ridiculous, has serious specs, and gets far more complements than my much more expensive watches.
@trailrunnermike
4 ай бұрын
I agree. I have had one for about two years. I am a professional boat captain and it’s my primary work watch. It’s in for a covered warranty repair. The owner is customer focused, reasonable and an excellent communicator. I would 100% buy another from them, however it’s been almost two months since I have seen it as a part needed to be ordered from a supplier and the brand outsources repairs of all types to an experienced third party.
@gavinBsussex
4 ай бұрын
To me the ultimate dive watch is the 44mm Rolex Deepsea but nobody sane is actually diving with that watch. If you want a brilliant beater watch I have always used a Citizen Pro Master when going scuba diving alongside my proper dive computer. If you want something really nice that is rugged and could be a serious dive watch down at 30m then the Tudor Pelagos 42mm in Blue - the OG Pelagos is an absolute winner - a proper tool watch but brilliantly built and finished. Just some thoughts….
@vincent67239
4 ай бұрын
I have a Deepsea (in D-blue) and, in my [biased] opinion, I agree! The Ring Lock System doesn’t get enough credit for allowing the watch to have such compact dimensions relative to its depth rating. Any other mechanical watch that has a depth rating that is equal to or greater than that of the Deepsea’s is much larger. The compact lug-to-lug length and the way the bracelet hangs straight down from the case allows it to be worn even on my 6.0” wrist with no overhang. You’re also right, though, that I’d never take it diving-it’s jewelry, and I like to take good care of my nice things.
@gavinBsussex
4 ай бұрын
@@vincent67239 yep the Deepsea is amazing and wears wonderfully for a big watch. I have the original 116660, and it is my favourite watch by far. But then again I have 19cm wrists so a Submariner is too small for me anyway.... wear your watch in good health buddy
@gobluerob212
4 ай бұрын
Another great video thank you, thought provoking as always. You're right about a convergence around design but isn't that the same with most retail segments. I would say it's less likely given the amount spent on watches versus shirts or sneakers but what if someone likes the brand Bremont (not me, ruined the logo) but wants something similar to a Submariner. The suits in corporate are saying we need to check a box in our lineup, copy something that works. Yes, it makes a world fairly uniform but the suits leave it up to another brand to be the guinea pig and try something new. If it works copy it. If not, they lean over to the next guy and are like "I told you it wasn't going to work."
@Mike.thiswatchthatwatch
4 ай бұрын
Bingo. It is this corporate decision process that leads to these bland designs... 😀
@shaunpatrick8345
4 ай бұрын
With its sculpted bezel, skeleton hands and cupcake, the Omega 300M is one of those less conventional divers, but it still suits the casual and office wearer.
@karolmisztal7948
4 ай бұрын
Indeed, I also thought “what about the 300M?”. Mike - what’s your take on this diver family?
@BoleDaPole
4 ай бұрын
I'd buy one if it wasn't for that God awful bracelet. They need to release a tapered version.
@patrik3450
4 ай бұрын
He normally criticizes omega, so don’t expect anything there. I get some of his criticism which is justified, but it seems he isn’t the biggest fan regardless. Omega have some really great watches smp300 is that watch.
@TheSlowoldman
4 ай бұрын
I'll be a voice of dissent here, I think the Omega 300M diver is one of the least attractive watches on the market. To me, it is overdone, the waves on the dial look tacky and the bezel is one of the worst looking out there and that's not even mentioning what most think is it's weak point ,the bracelet. The watch does absolutely nothing for me and I am a fan of Omega.
@shaunpatrick8345
4 ай бұрын
@@TheSlowoldman I'm the same on every point, but I can't deny that it's versatile and popular despite being unconventional.
@nathanlikert9866
4 ай бұрын
Little meta-commentary with the No Time to Die on wrist? ;)
@Mike.thiswatchthatwatch
4 ай бұрын
You noticed 😉💪
@VectorSearch
4 ай бұрын
I have a 14060M (4liner), SD4K, BP FF … looking for a beater diver in the $4-8k range (new). What should I get? Was thinking black pelagos fxd. Any other suggestions? Not a big omega diver fan. Though I own two Speedies. Just not into their skeleton hands and PO offerings for their divers.
4 ай бұрын
Your content is so special, deep and entertaining. Its the "luxury content" vs. a lot of beaters (you know who i am thinking about) and below. Did you ever think about doing a book??! Transcribe the audio, correct and add pics and the book of "watches 42" is mainly done. Take the content and train a LLM and then you have the ultimate chatbot for watch nerds. In any case: Please do not stop 😎
@Mike.thiswatchthatwatch
4 ай бұрын
Thanks for the praise. I'll try to keep it up 😀
@bjornclaeys3266
4 ай бұрын
I bought my seiko sne589, because i was looking for 1 watch for everything. I wear it for work, beach, hiking and traveling. I have it with a rubber strap. It is always spot-on: maybe 2 seconds per month. I do not mind scratches on it, this way it ot only tells time, it also keeps it, my memory logbook. I may consider a turtle or a captain willard in the future. I am not a fan of small diameters.
@TheSlowoldman
4 ай бұрын
You need to upload more often, or maybe it's I'd appreciate you to upload more often......whatever, LOL. I really enjoy your insights and look forward to each of your videos. An older diver that is VERY different, not most people's cup of tea, is the Roger Dubuis Easy Diver..... it is definitely out of the box. WAY too big and has a white gold bezel but I love it for the movement, the RD56 (the same Lemania based as the Omega 321 that went to the moon) so from under the sea all the way to the moon it's different. I'll get one someday just because it is different.
@Mike.thiswatchthatwatch
4 ай бұрын
Lol... Don't have the time to upload more than once a week. As for the RD.... Definitely an acquired taste for most people 😀😀
@dalesmith7250
4 ай бұрын
This is why I am leaning heavily towards the Ulysse Nardin Divers (specifically the Diver 44mm). They are a bit on the larger side, but I have a 7.5" wrist so I can wear it comfortably. It is clearly a diver, but it definitely looks different enough - small seconds, circular date window, power reserve indicator - from the conventional design to be appealing to me. And being UN, they have great history and experience in the marine timekeeping world.
@gid-vicious
4 ай бұрын
JLC Polaris is an interesting one. Yama with the bezel lock mechanism
@jeejkee6471
4 ай бұрын
I liked dive watches untill I went diving. They are seriously useless compared to dive computers 😅. Just kidding still like divers, they just look great.
@RabbitWatchShop
4 ай бұрын
You first and second sentences had me like 😠 Your last sentence had me like 😅😆 You invoked my bipolar roller coaster
@davidsandrovitch7635
4 ай бұрын
I'm surprised you didn't mention the Oris Aquis. Oris seem to have managed to do well with something of a unique innovative design, despite the non standard strap attachment mechanism.
@Mike.thiswatchthatwatch
4 ай бұрын
Probably should have... Sometimes I just have to pick a few examples. The video would get even longer if I had to name drop even more 😀
@Sirkelsag666
4 ай бұрын
I would say Squale (1521, Matic, Master) and Sinn are trying in their own way and the Aquaracer is quite a different looking diver. Omega does a good job sticking to the HEV, without it I think it will look much more generic.
@Mike.thiswatchthatwatch
4 ай бұрын
Good options 😊
@darkyeast
4 ай бұрын
What do you think about the echo/neutra cristallo? Quite unique without looking freaky I find.
@karimafeiche
4 ай бұрын
Great Video! I’ve not watched anyone yet put out so much insight about a specific topic. What do you think about Aquastar? Or Yema with their Morteau movement?
@handlehbt
4 ай бұрын
Nice video, as always ! Bremont Supermarine, looks pretty good and I like the date window on it, but its a lot more expensive than Black Bay 58/54; will be quite hard for a buyer to overlook that fact. Not a fan of the new logo and London text though.
@affegorilla1299
4 ай бұрын
I very much like the Blancpain Fiftyfathoms day date desert it’s dial is just so stunning! It combines everything I love in watches ✌🏻
@user-vv1qm5dj9c
4 ай бұрын
Parts of the Seiko, Oris and Longines lineups have you covered in terms of less conventional. As for Tudor (and it leans into premium lux for me) it has to be the P01. It’s fun + ugly.
@blackcoffeeinbed
4 ай бұрын
The relaunched Aquastar Deepstar II with it smaller case, small seconds and gorgeous color ways is doing the retro diver thing just right.
@MarcTsawwassen
4 ай бұрын
Lorier Neptune 4 is a microbrand that played it safe, like you said, and also not. Safe in that the inspiration was well known classic divers. Not safe in insisting on the hesalite crystal. In person that crystal is wonderful IMO.
@threethrushes
4 ай бұрын
I'm a certified rescue diver. I have a Sinn diver and an ORIS. Wear what you want. Deepest I've gone is 32m. My Sinn is rated to 5000m. Go figure.
@eyeheartsushi2212
4 ай бұрын
Which Oris?
@vincent67239
4 ай бұрын
Are scratches truly an inevitability while diving? I don’t mean microscratches from clothing; I’m talking deep scratches, gouges, and dents. I have a Rolex Deepsea, but I’m thinking I’ll probably get a Citizen or Seiko (or maybe Scurfa) just for actual diving. I’ve started taking lessons for recreational diving. I brought a Casio to my first pool session but couldn’t fit the strap over the wetsuit. The strap was too short!
@VMIyanks04
4 ай бұрын
Agreed. Big miss by Bremont this year, not only with the Supermarine but also their entire re-branding campaign. But maybe I’ll pay off in a few years? I still love the BB58 Blue and hope to get that one day. But I really like what Formex and Christopher Ward have been doing the last few years. I love the e interchangeable bezels of the Formex!
@normajeann
4 ай бұрын
I need the timing bezel, weather it's for diving or cooking / grilling something delicious in the kitchen! Plus they look good!
@adolfodelorenzo4773
4 ай бұрын
Excelent video, started to follow some days ago and I love your approach. I believe GO SeaQ brings what you were asking for. Diferent interpretation but still the traditional diver style, great looks, quality & finishing one level up to the others… just price might be a bit too much but I think you get a lot of value. What is your take on this?
@Mike.thiswatchthatwatch
4 ай бұрын
Thanks for the follow. Agree wholheartedly on the SeaQ. It's amazing 😀
@affegorilla1299
4 ай бұрын
I need a U50 for sure 👍🏻
@WestCoastAce27
4 ай бұрын
If only it was about $750 cheaper. I still can’t see the value. Love the unique look.
@affegorilla1299
4 ай бұрын
@@WestCoastAce27 I am going to buy the all black with the hole luminor dial! I love sinn I live in Frankfurt 😜
@WestCoastAce27
4 ай бұрын
@@affegorilla1299👍 - the previous all blk variant of the U50 is what I’d buy but unfortunately here in the States there’s no ability to get any type of deal. I’m hoping my company sends me back to Düsseldorf this yr.
@Mike.thiswatchthatwatch
4 ай бұрын
It's on my list as well 😊😊
@bayaninarciso
4 ай бұрын
Another great video and topic! I think divers is an interesting area for analysis because of its popularity and difficulty. You basically have two companies that dominate the diver market on the largest ends of the spectrum, Rolex at the premium end and Seiko at the beater/budget end. That's left some space in the middle for Omega SMPs and Tudor Black Bays to fight it out, with everyone else on the edge. Finding a niche on that edge is so difficult because so much of the market in conventional divers is already taken. How do you establish appeal? Some microbrands have targeted unique designs while Chinese manufacturers target specs/value for budget, below Seiko. Some luxury brands, like Glashütte Original, aim for the luxury market, above Rolex, but they only need to sell a few watches since their production is so low. Where does that leave other legacy brands? It seems like there's only so much of the pie to go around.
@Mike.thiswatchthatwatch
4 ай бұрын
Agree with you the Rolex, Omega, Seiko and Tudor really dominating. The leftovers is what everybody else seems to be fighting over 😀
@stefpix
4 ай бұрын
The Citizen Orca (also the limited all black / PVD), The Citizen Aqualand JP2000 (+ the full lume dial version) are great dive watches, original, functional and attractive. The Orca may be polarizing. Great legibility. and they are iconic and on the budget side.
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