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@mylesbailey7208
6 жыл бұрын
Nice video. Good to see Chris doing his thing. Surprised not to see him use more Karate sweeps in the clinch. He used to love those when we were coursing in the playground! Been dumped on the floor by Chris clipping the ankle more than once. Hah!
@PericlesRomeroR
6 жыл бұрын
This is brilliant! Please ignore all those comments talking about disappointment. This is what people need to understand: Aikido needs pressure testing! Keep the good work exploring with Aikido!!!
@aplesmith5544
6 жыл бұрын
Great comments. So many can't grasp or have never been taught the need to adapt to different contexts in different situations. Multiple attacks, attackers won't be compliant, the need to move and continually adapt. Good stuff.
@iatsd
6 жыл бұрын
2:51 that's not "adaptation of Aikido". That's how Aikido is *supposed* to be done; Aikido starts with atemi. It's not reactive. It's proactive and creates the movement, controls it, and directs it.
@triniticoclough6387
6 жыл бұрын
Correct...the main reason the So called Aikido block was not totally effective is due to the lack of continual movement or flow in that example... redirecting the attackers ability to strike. By flowing or moving your able to control your attacker and see whatever defense he has coming. If he was to block that punch and continue to move on his outside gate almost moving around him in a 360 like movement the rest of the mans body would also move with that arm thus breaking his stance or balance removing his ability to generate power to even make a meaningful defense.
@jehl1963
6 жыл бұрын
Also not discussed is the concept of mai (I'm not sure of correct spelling). For example at 1:46, the mai seems to be to large, thus allowing the boxer to turn and hit the Aikido nage. Once you enter I think that you want to me much closer and "crowd" the boxer's torso and right shoulder more, thus taking away his center and not allowing him to turn and punch you. From there you can continue to do any number of techniques. But if you don't get the entry right, it's really hard to make up for the error later. Basically "...keep your enemies closer"
@Tibobo02
6 жыл бұрын
iatsd correct but you can't do something you don't train for. Obviously almost all dojos dont train for what you call "how it's supposed to be done" .
@iatsd
6 жыл бұрын
+Tibobo02 You've experience of "most dojos"? Hell, I've been training for ~30 years and even with my job constantly travelling, I've only trained at a bit under 150 dojo around the world.
@Tibobo02
6 жыл бұрын
iatsd and over 150 dojos you've known, how many of them actually spar ? Ps : i've been practicing aikido for more than 20 years, come on be honest, aikido practicing sparring is a very small minority.
@jamescolekreecanyon
6 жыл бұрын
Good no nonsense realistic training ideas , you’ve got to pressure test / spar , get hit , and to combine with your own martial art , aikido/ wing Chun etc , another great video thanks for posting.
@sadtechie
6 жыл бұрын
Good video. The mistakes described are often made by beginners in Aikido, although seasoned aikidokas make them too. As one progresses in Aikido training, one (ideally) learns never to be on the back foot, but to move slightly out of the line of attack and immediately move forward. This is called "irimi". One also learns the use of strikes or kicks called "atemi" to suppress the attack, soften the attacker and misdirect to create an opening. Once an opening is made, a technique suited to that opening can then be applied. Having said that, many Aikido dojos probably do not practise enough atemi especially with beginners, so there may well be insufficient conditioning or programming in that area. Again, good video. Thanks for posting.
@robrichardson5187
5 жыл бұрын
Life long martial artist, and I thought that was an excellent video. Well done.
@sandsrealestatewest663
5 жыл бұрын
BEST and most REALISTIC video regarding Aikido aka "Bull-shito"... Most ALL Aikido dojos are just simply "hangouts" with a bunch of old people just filling time until their grandkids get back from sports practice, while you train to LOSE a f**king fight with techniques that will get you KNOCKED the f**k OUT within seconds of the first punch being thrown.. Thanks guys..
@umgadan
6 жыл бұрын
Come train in my dojo, my sensei founded it, his father actually did. He has the same ideology as you. In street, there is no oh wait ohh let me do this technique, you have 0.5 seconds to strike or defend. Great job man awesome video.
@raywebb2415
6 жыл бұрын
Yes, another great video. I study American Kenpo. As GM Ed Parker once said, a good martial artist combines self defense techniques, Katas and sparing and "Principles" into their training. GM Parker transformed "traditional" Kenpo into self defense style that was proven effect in his period of time of history.
@sherlockinvestigatesjapan8302
6 жыл бұрын
It is important for students to push their comfort zone. It is the ego that mostly holds people back, they do not want to push themselves in the Dojo in fear of failure or embarrassment. An embarrassing failure in the Dojo is a lesson to learn that could save your life on the streets. Although their is no true failure when in the Dojo.
@shihonage
6 жыл бұрын
Adapting Aikido to work in sparring is a fool's errand. It did work for me recently in real-life attack scenario, however. Because in real life, people always strike to connect, and they always telegraph it or give it away by positioning themselves beforehand. Just introduce jiyu-waza with random sloppy reality attacks at the end of every class, and you'll improve your self-defense ability a lot. No sparring necessary, just enhanced jiyu-waza.
@UnexpectedWonder
6 жыл бұрын
The Physicality Channel It depends upon how one spars. I would mos def suggest everyone to spar. It trains the body and mind. You don't have to go Hardcore.
@gaminfuwl
6 жыл бұрын
The Physicality Channel Now you’re talking! Had there been a need for any alterations or improvements to a perfect “system” that’s been tried and tested for centuries, I’m sure it would have been done long ago! Otherwise, the master teachers and practitioners of old would surely have recognized it to be “inadequate” or ineffective to practice.
@ficedulamortis6434
5 жыл бұрын
The problem with that mentality is the fact that you make it like EVERYONE is sloppy, when realistically anyone who’s trained MMA for even a month wouldn’t telegraph like that in a street fight. Train what works against professionals, lest you have to fight someone that does
@Aikibiker1
6 жыл бұрын
One thing you can do is try striking repeatedly until you get a reaction that makes an opening for a technique. I have used short punches to the back/slash kidneys to get my partner to pull in his elbow to guard, which coincidentally sets up a nice kote gaeshi. I recently used the ikkyo undo exercise to take down a resisting psych patient by driving my lead arm into the side of his head and getting an underhook with the trailing arm and driving in and accross deeply. That took his balance and set up a nice shoulder lock takedown. balance. Those are examples of how I use atemi/striking to create openings for Aikido techniques against real resisting oponents.
@iatsd
6 жыл бұрын
Aikibiker1 Didn't you get the memo from all the MMA weenies? Aikido never works ever. ;-) :')
@TRA25
6 жыл бұрын
Aikibiker1 Aikibiker1 In my opinion kotegaeshi is more easily and best used against an overly defensive opponent. If they close up you can easily get enough breathing space to get them off balance and finish the technique. Another thing I’ve been taught to do in the dojo is to attack the inside of the elbow during a jab or cross and then slide my hand up into position for kotegaeshi, it’s much easier than attempting to grab the wrist mid punch because you get a solid grip then get into position rather than getting into position before getting a solid grip.
@trevorthomas4453
4 жыл бұрын
Totally get this , extremely well done and point made clear, I trained in akido for 3 years and left in part as I we did not apply it to realistic situations, after watching Akidoflo , I’ve decided to have another crack , mind you I’m 59 now .
@TRA25
6 жыл бұрын
Interesting about the forward stance, in yoshinkan aikido you get drilled into always having your knee over your front toe and having your weight always forward. My sensei also drills into me that you can never step backwards after a technique or during a technique as you will get hit. That may be one of the slight differences between pre-war and post-war aikido.
@glennrobinson7193
4 жыл бұрын
So much stuff I've seen on KZitem is demonstrating against a docile looking and smaller guy and he's not resisting but cooperating with the instructor, so I really like this.
@stevek3036
6 жыл бұрын
Great tutorial from an opponent's perspective. A skilled boxer is always a very dangerous opponent, very, very fast and very, very quick on their feet. To me the key to aikido is to size up the opponent's 'style' and anticipate their style - and to be equally ready to move in quick - boxers do not get knockout's at close range. A boxer needs sufficient distance to use their bodyweight and arm reach to maximise impact on the opponents head. Body shots will be debilitating but will not cause unconsciousness to the opponent - if you black-out its game-over. My Dad practiced judo and I remember him saying that in a contest he was matched against a Royal Navy boxer - quite intimidating for him but I remember him saying that because he was a boxer he was 'light' on his feet so Dad used a Judo technique to 'land' him. I guess all martial arts have strengths and weaknesses
@stevek4081
5 жыл бұрын
Gotta love the keyboard hard men 😂.
@glennrobinson7193
4 жыл бұрын
This could be the best self defense lesson I have ever had. Good job sir.
@christopherjames375
Жыл бұрын
That Andre is a lean powerful bloke I bet hes a force to be recommended on the mats
@randallmcdaniel1189
4 жыл бұрын
pressure testing any martial art or fighting style is key. As you can see from the end of the video it was just straight ahead punching with little side movement. Liked the video
@liamcage7208
3 жыл бұрын
All good tips. I have 40 years in martial arts and all I have to say is any Aikido practitioner who does Aikido like the person in the video (stands behind their blocks, doesn't use distracting blows, etc) needs to find a new dojo to practice. Shame on any instructor who isn't teaching the things that you discussed by the time the student is a black belt. I firmly believe that no one deserves to be a head instructor unless they've been in real fights and can adapt what they teach to the real world. I know some instructors that disagree but that just shows what they don't know.
@richardsager1723
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you Chris and Andrej. Great information and video.
@troycummings5083
3 жыл бұрын
Great video. Nothing wrong with improving readiness.
@doctormcgoveran2194
4 жыл бұрын
where do you find a pub that wide open with no tables chairs and other people and bright lights to fight under? this guy been hit in the head a lot..that first defense of the right hand punch, was perfect as far as it went..when he stepped to the out side, he could have grabbed with his right , slapped that elbow with his left, and had that arm behind the back in a second. you are correct about the negatives of dojo training. If I start a fight and can pick the spot it is on the stairs in the dark slippery crowded uneven floor.
@ddee51-g2g2
3 жыл бұрын
I don't know anything about martial arts or boxing but I do know that it makes sense to be well rounded fighter. 🤷🏾♀️
@tallras1
6 жыл бұрын
Adaptability is EVERYTHING!! GREAT video!
@uli9084
Жыл бұрын
excellent reality training!
@johnsmith9430
5 жыл бұрын
Very wise demonstration. It's a way to learn Aikido! Broad mind and practice with every benevolent person from other martial arts. How to fight a fighter from a different martial arts style. How to learn the tricks that these people use.
@SlickCat
6 жыл бұрын
I would advise try to punch or kick your opponent as soon as they begin to throw a punch as opposed to blocking. Taking charge of offense is key. I have seen great attackers overwhelm a victim who just tries to block or move.
@devtron274
6 жыл бұрын
This guy would smash the hole aikidoflow team
@christopherjamesjames1682
3 жыл бұрын
Good vidio . Chris nice guy .combining aikido with boxing skills . Smart guy. Reading his opponent
@christopherjamesjames1682
3 жыл бұрын
That London guy looks a formidable opponent .especialy if he is army trained
@PoPMediaPro
4 жыл бұрын
I believe that regardless of the attack... if your opponent is a trained practicing antagonist that will up the game. Real life attacks? This type of practice is what any self defended is aware of... the worst case scenario... run away!
@krumbergify
4 жыл бұрын
Good! This is actually ”pressure testing” is contrast to what for example Lenny Sly is selling. But the ”adapted aikido” is actually basic Wing Tsun :). It even looks like he is trying to follow up with chain punches (3:00)
@ezekielgarza1150
6 жыл бұрын
great video, great explaination, adding striking and live training is so good for aikido
@lionsden4563
6 жыл бұрын
Good video.
@reviews.834
6 жыл бұрын
Please keep posting frequently again. I like a lot your videos. Gambate! Aikido for self defense and aggressive ways of aikido techniques are a must have in my opinion. Keep strong man ! Good video indeed.
@lsporter88
6 жыл бұрын
You're absolutely right. One must train to defend against another trained and aggressive fighter (otherwise it's useless in the real world). Great video.
@long-distancerecon6364
5 жыл бұрын
The Best Defense is a GREAT Offense...
@wagutoxD
6 жыл бұрын
Very nice and brave video, guys! Respect!
@Eric-zs9rh
6 жыл бұрын
Chris, great points.
@TimothySamJolly
6 жыл бұрын
Great stuff guys! What's with this 'Green season?' Nice to see how important to assume that multiple strikes will follow after the first evasion.
@caglaroral
6 жыл бұрын
[9:00] At the end I dont see any technique. Just punches over and over. Thats the real fight
@steve-eu4dr
5 жыл бұрын
Best one so far
@UnexpectedWonder
6 жыл бұрын
Chris kept it Real. He sounded like me several times. He mentioned constant pressure, countering, and footwork, which Boxing whether Pro Boxing or Bareknuckle Boxing emphasize. I can relate to his journey of learning various Martial Arts as well. When they were sparring @ the end, Chris was more of a traditional Pro Boxing stance. Ondrej was utilizing a lot of Greco-Roman Wrestling besides some basic strikes. Their backgrounds came through naturally.
@benitomaldonado7080
6 жыл бұрын
Awesome video ! Thanks Aikido Flow 👍
@carybaxter274
5 жыл бұрын
Brilliant! This is very wise and very practical. Definitely the right direction to grow.
@1ばかぶた
2 жыл бұрын
I agree with him, but I do things differently from what he suggests. for example: 2:16 in this situation, I will catch his hand by his armpit with left hand, and on his shoulder with right hand. then I rotate my right foot through my back and in that moment too, I will raise my left hand so his right hand would get pulled to upward. after he fall completely, I would pull his right hand to the front to lock him while I am in standing up position. all of that happened in one or two seconds and I wont mind taking his one punch because it is not a strong punch if he throw it without a good stance like that. if there is a good stance, then it would be a full committed straight and it is even easier to catch 5:27 this type of kick is actually got anticipated by aikido. there is a move to catch this kind of kick, but sometimes anyone would just not be ready like ondrej. if I am in that situation, I would ram my opponent with all of my body and push him down. a side kick wouldnt hit very hard in very close range the rest is the same like what he suggests
@teodorasteluta827
6 жыл бұрын
That shiho nage was't done well, if you learn the aikido tehnics right and you do them fast , they may work very well, at least, at my dojo, we do them way different and we try them with a resisting opponent as well. Btw, I practice modern aikido, not traditional
@PericlesRomeroR
6 жыл бұрын
Teodora Steluta please post a video
@rafaelsantana8167
6 жыл бұрын
I agree
@Sonomatt
6 жыл бұрын
Agreed very poor aikido
@jovan3612
5 жыл бұрын
Is it real aikido?
@steelgila
5 жыл бұрын
2:58 Irimi nage would have been a good choice as a quick response to uke's punch. Nage would have moved in for entering style arm sweep closing up the distance(mai ai) or spun uke around from outside in (soto style) bringing him off balance and throwing. The seemingly archaic traditional moves actually do have practical applications. Japanese martial arts are the out come of six centuries of civil war so everything has been tried and tested even though traditional western boxing would be an unusual art for any eastern martial artist to negotiate.
@bglaidlaw
6 жыл бұрын
Not how I am taught Aikido ... we are told to always move forward, and to anticipate the attack - moving in first when possible. Also, the shihonage properly executed, as with all aikido moves, takes the opponent off balance first, restricting then their options to counter.
@laviloli4710
6 жыл бұрын
This is what my first thought was when I saw Chris defeat the shionage. Aikido is all about control your opponent. A correctly executed shionage doesn´t allow the opponent to act like Chris did.
@AndreiPetre
Жыл бұрын
Great video thank you! Can you suggest the gear you are using for sparing? Those masks are better than I could find with a bit of searching. Thanks!
@ericx2262
6 жыл бұрын
FINALLY a new video
@Aikidoflow
6 жыл бұрын
dont worry we are back.. for now every 2 weeks .jason.
@anamnesisekklesia
6 жыл бұрын
The shionage wasn't implemented properly (I'm not talking about the way, it's supposed to be executed either), if it was, he would have been stretched out, would not have been able to turn around like that. I don't think that Ondrej wanted to hurt him. Yes, the whole don't turn your back on your opponent is still an important little gem. Obviously, you don't want to break each other whilst you're training to much, so we don't torque as much. It is not realistic to assume that you're going to have an excellent technique right off the bat in a fight anyway. If you do, hell that's some really good going. You train to execute these techniques in ways that leave you safe-ish at best as you rank up. You can just take the back turn out because under real street fight situations, you won't really have time to do all the fine motor skill based techniques. Think of every counter attack (atemi?) as a way closer to torquing a technique. Run with the big things irimi nages or kokyu nages and all of that sort of thing. The purpose is for us to vanish so that the opponent wanders where we are, by the time they realise it, the fight is over. Hopefully, we haven't injured them too badly, which refers to well the street. No one wants to get in trouble with the police or anything like that
@rubenvargas3547
4 жыл бұрын
Thanx guys 👍
@jamesespinar6982
5 жыл бұрын
I agree with you cuz they too comfortable inside the class and there's always somebody there to watch on a sparring they really don't teach how to prepare yourself in the streets everyday that's why they steal your money.
@H4I2I2EE
6 жыл бұрын
I know what you mean by realistic. I live in a rough neighborhood. People attack me wearing boxing gloves all the time. All jokes aside. That isn't true, that in Aikido, when you move, you stay in front to be punched in the area of danger, as you put it. Your taisabaki should move you to the side or to the rear of the attacker. Boxers don't know what to do if you get behind them. Taisabaki happens first, not technique first. The deflecting of punches should happen while you are moving. Also there is atemi that is done while moving around the opponent. Atemi is supposed to be done in conjunction with techniques such as locks and what not. There are also strikes to the throat/neck/groin/palm strikes etc. Obviously in the street/self defense situation anything goes. The technique he did should take balance to some degree cuz your entire body influences the attackers body. I think they call it Kazushi, right? The reason you can punch so easily is cuz you are fully balanced while he is trying to execute a technique so of course you can easily resist it/punch him/pull away. The technique should effect your entire body, not just move your arms cuz hips rotate and move up and down as well(koshi mawashi). 5:05 Also stick fighting(bojutsu) helps with reflexes/stamina/how to read people's movements. It's sorta how they describe/use it for in this video, for example. kzitem.info/news/bejne/y4F_2ox_rJeVdqwm16s If you are just trying to get more mma fanboy views then nevermind. Disregard. I gave the video a like though cuz I agree with all your points. I just don't agree that it's what Aikido is lacking.
@theloniousmonkey9047
6 жыл бұрын
I don't know, while I agree that aikido is not always trained as a martially as possible or aikidoka are even always interested in that, but c'mon, this is pretty disingenuous to aikido and I expected more from this channel. Andre seemed to also be calling it in here. The first bit where he's blocking the jab and the boxer comes back with a flurry of punches shouldn't actually happen if Andre completed his entry and executed his irimi nage with any kind of intent. An aikidoka should be aware of where he/she is in relation to their uke at all times and not moving into where they are vulnerable to counter strikes etc., so he should be entering beyond the reach of the oncoming follow up cross. By turning to face him to land the second punch the boxer should essentially be walking into nage's hip/extended arm of his iriminage. Alternately Andre could have gone directly for an Hijishime, from where it would be very difficult for the boxer to punch let alone regain their posture. Bottom line is we have lots of options in aikido. You should make a video about how to actually deal with the boxer/skilled street fighter; this just sort of showed how NOT to do aikido against such an opponent.
@chrisschmeitz1139
5 жыл бұрын
His name is ondrey if i'm not mistaking
@steelgila
5 жыл бұрын
Right. It involves Aikido principles of mai ai(ranging) sankaku(the line of attack and the 'dead zone') hanka waza(shifting gears by transitioning to alternate techniques) and much more.
@oniaiki
5 жыл бұрын
Aikido is an art based on peace. Not oriented for combat. It may be very effective on the street as self defense with a lot of experience and understanding the technique has to be adapted "out of Dojo". Being said this, it is better to combine it with other martial art that will compliment medium-long distance and ground fighting. It will take a very senior master to make good use of it, and in that case is not only effective but devastating. You are not thorough on the atemi concept. But one of the solution you give is exactly an atemi style strike. Which is already part of advanced aikido. A long experienced aikido master will connect 3 atemis to you in between 2 punches. Enough to go into technique. The way you propose the shihonague is how is taught in the dojo and unlikely to be used in a real fight. Unless the opening is made by atemi. If the point is that aikido the way is taught today is not effective but even self dangerous on an street fight is correct. Masters need to devote time to teach self defense applications. And there will never be a combat application since that is not designed for that. Just combine it with other fighting system and aikido will provide an edge to it.
@zminvestllc9919
2 жыл бұрын
What there missing, is this is sparring not fighting. There is a difference. Everytime Andre retreats, he should just run away. The boxer is right, Andre is chasing his arm, not the opponent, leaving the opponent free to continue attacking.
@alwaleedanwar5208
4 жыл бұрын
Why doesn't an aikido player start attacking the opponent first and have the advantage of surprising the opponent and starting the fight?
@themetalicarus0284
5 жыл бұрын
Interesting vid, but the boxing chap makes a few wrong assumptions about aikido moves etc imo, (standing distance for a start, blending, motion, energy that is going down etc, also a good shihonage will stretch you out and take you off balance). You can't throw punches when your centre is taken out, that and it's easy to hit anything when you have gloves which are THAT big. Just my opinnion.
@VoidedTea
6 жыл бұрын
Why would the Aikido guy conveniently stop in the middle of his technique? And yes, I agree with the others, atemi is vital for a real fight situation. It was taken out of a spiritual version of Aikido but even in older Aikido books written by Morihei students you may find comments like “Atemi is essential for a good irimi”. So in a sense you are correct about the need to adapt Aikido, although it is not much of “adapting” but “restoring” the combat version of Aikido.
@kenokurose
6 жыл бұрын
Curiously the technique that Gozo Shioda used to defeat a boxer was shihonage... also, will this guy wear gloves in a real fight? Does he knows that punching with a naked hand may be dangerous? This is why sumo uses open palm (and there is a lot of knock outs in sumo matches)
@gabrielkesshinsanchez9139
5 жыл бұрын
I like you guys and I understand Aikido, but in aikido you arent supposed to attack, if he can punch just move behind him and take him down. Spar. be fast. in aikido, im sure you know this, you are supposed to be balanced on both feet/
@kurtsteiner8384
Жыл бұрын
I dont do akido but have done jujitsu. Would that be the same for that as akido in a pub so to speak.
@davidwayne9982
Жыл бұрын
I do CANE-DO -- and even at 67, having been mashed between two trucks in 99, and not "normal" yet-- I can easily take you and any boxer down before then can blink.. And i've had guys say- 'but the cane may not take them down right on"-- BS- they just don't know CANES.
@gabrielshirma8400
6 жыл бұрын
una observación... se que el sistema te dicta como hacerle en el caso de que alguien inicie el combate... la pregunta es como inicias tu el combate cuando la otra persona no es estática... saludos
@venomous_spiderx7939
5 жыл бұрын
One thing to point out is knowing range.
@frenzi333
6 жыл бұрын
thanx chris
@StenBackstrom
3 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately many dojos and styles train wrong. If aikido were trained correctly this would be less of a problem. But few masters teach this, from what I've seen at least. I trained for about ten years and encountered several other styles, plus what I see on KZitem now...
@mikerunyan1
6 жыл бұрын
Maybe both of you wearing head gear and gloves... yeah, I’d like to see that
@jbeihl1
6 жыл бұрын
Yeah fighting 101. Hands up. Can’t go wrong with peekaboo stance and good footwork. Mike Tyson is one of the best.
@jonathannoerr5997
5 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately,,, "HE" DIDN'T block in way of "Opposite" of the Attack. He Defended "INTO" your Strike. Adapt by BLOCKING AWAY from the Counter Strike! Using the Initiail STRIKE arm to Block the Counter Strike, while one either Gets Away or Pulls the Attacker AWAY from the Counter all together. Throwing the Power of the Counter STRIKE OFF by having REACH TOO FAR or OVER or UNDER. Unfortunately that IS also part of True Aikido. Isn't It??? Must admit I've NEVER been trained in Aikido! But I've been a FAN and a Student of such for Decades.
@matkasim
4 жыл бұрын
Atemi is emphasized in Yoshinkan style aikido. O sensei once said atemi is 70% in fights. Thats what aikikai has forgotten
@CaioCesar-ui6oo
5 жыл бұрын
Good, but the aikido figther need to use the atemi in every irimi atack!!!!! Look the Nishio sensei vídeos about atemis!!!!
@zminvestllc9919
2 жыл бұрын
1st mistake, when the boxers raises his guard, Andre should attack, not sit there with his hands down, waiting to be attacked. ATTACK, ATTACK, ATTACK TAKE THE BOXERS ENGINE AWAY. BEING DEFENSIVE YOU CANNOT WIN.
@BoyInTheVault
6 жыл бұрын
Excellent video excellent technique however that is not self-defense that's excessive force and murder big fan of the channel love Aikido flow but this gentleman doing his mixed martial arts that not self-defense in any way shape with this young man just showed us was a great way on how to be convicted for thought self preservation is more important than extreme moves against an untrained attacker is a mistake to use this gentleman's mixed martial arts is a huge mistake without question always walk away
@melvinr643
Жыл бұрын
AGREED>>Chris!!!!100%
@long-distancerecon6364
5 жыл бұрын
Fist fight vs the Dojo. Is speed. Your speed to react. And be Precise under pressure and NOT Knowing wtf the enemy is going to do to counteract. So it's NEVER Perfect. Most you will win with the speed and the experience. But it takes Heart to follow through....Even with ALL 3. There is NO Bruce Lee...
@3veggetta
6 жыл бұрын
Anaother reason why sparring is so important.
@Sonomatt
6 жыл бұрын
That was not Aikido 😆
@Aikidoflow
6 жыл бұрын
aikido is not a set of moves!
@Sonomatt
6 жыл бұрын
Aikidoflow no it isn’t, it’s technique and feeling based on basic principles. In your example nage is hardly showing this. He is static and performing a basic entry or block in attempt to perform technique however real aikido will involve atemi right off the batt weather it by physical strike or other. Also stance posture and movement is stiff and not using center or proper legs and bent knees.
@rafaelsantana8167
6 жыл бұрын
aikido does not work???
@scarred10
5 жыл бұрын
Theres no way you'll be getting outside a surprise punch like that.that said, it wont be aikido if it works.
@jonathannoerr5997
5 жыл бұрын
Sorry??? But another MISTAKE in your Opponent WAS. Blocking DOWN! Especially when one considers one of the Basic Exercise Move for Aikido. Which is from the Waist UP TO the Head,,,, Isn't It???? While I Whole Heartedly AGREE how much just Boxing CAN give Aikido fits,,,, once again,,, this demonstration WAS a POOR example of the Aikido. Please forgive this Criticism,,,, but I hope it HELPS a better Aikido vs Boxing Adaptation,,, is all.
@eliolopez3107
5 жыл бұрын
I have always said; the dojo is for theory. Combat is something altogether different. It doesn't matter what art you're studying.
@danniragu7194
5 жыл бұрын
💪
@ralfwilms482
4 жыл бұрын
But ondrej would continue the technique and not just stand there
@attygarland6909
Жыл бұрын
No idea here what the purpose of that video is supposed to be. Almost seems like a diss of Aikido and to show that we have no chance of coming out ahead when up against experienced boxers. ? 🙄
@frlouis3266
6 жыл бұрын
Aikido might actually work in a pub because the chances are high your opponent will be drunk, now on the street...lol
@adila7071
6 жыл бұрын
Not the best video. Ondrej wouldn't make those mistakes that this other guy is discussing. Bring back Azu and Ondrej together again please.
@Aikidoflow
6 жыл бұрын
don't worry we have some great videos lined up for you..but we thought you would like another perspective. jason.
@UnexpectedWonder
6 жыл бұрын
Adil A Ondrej is highly skilled. He was showcasing what a Novice might bring to the table.
@adila7071
6 жыл бұрын
Thanks Jason. Love your videos. I train fairly hard and blend together numerous fighting techniques and principles, including and especially Aikido. Would love to meet you guys one day in England. With love from Toronto, Canada. Sincerely, Adil
@Tigermaster1986
5 жыл бұрын
I know this is an old video, but KZitem just spat it in my face and, well... I somewhat agree with the message behind the video, but the video itself is just make-believe. Intentionally doing the techniques wrong and then declaring that they don't work is really disingenuous.
@hooptyloop727
6 жыл бұрын
The thing he shows with shiho-nage isn’t valid since the tori isn’t performing the technique correctly, since he wouldn’t have been able to do his self defence move if the tori had actually unbalanced him, as you are supposed to. And also aikido isn’t a martial art made for self defence on the street, but more for the principles and self development.
@TimRHillard
Жыл бұрын
So... Basically boxing then. Yep.
@RealVergilSparda
Жыл бұрын
if you arent breaking your opponents balance thas what happens
@mickymorton7148
6 жыл бұрын
it's always good to pressure test any martial arts system you in train..and adapt to your surroundings . now let's think outside this box.. on the street you be wont be faced with a kickboxer or boxer.karate etc or maybe a person who's trained other martial arts .... because that average mugger - robber - attacker isn't trained in that.... he just wants to take from you. & will do anything to get what he wants... either by force or even kill.. now aikido has some great tools.in it's arsenal . which can injure or damage that attacker without fail. even break bones... if you have too ? atemi waza strikes get them in there don't just tap your attacker smash him. now let's look at shino - hage in this video it wasn't applied correctly.... now when it's done they wont have time to counter. because you have already taking there kuzushi ( balance ) now when it's applied nice & tight. if you look very close when it was applied in clip 5:01 it was released.. it wasn't applied which allowed chris to counter it's not programming your nervous system that has nothing to with with it... basically you are re - programming your awareness ? but am not expert I don't claim to be. am been honest & upfront.. as well aikido - jujitsu - aiki jujitsu karate yes you are shown techniques in the dojo that's how you learn... but you take ones that really work for yourself. & you make it your personal self defence.. system ?
@laviloli4710
6 жыл бұрын
There are enough vidoes on the net showing how one martial arts works against another one. This video shows (in a pretty unprofessional way) how boxing seemingly works against Aikido. So I´ve also seen lots of videos showing how Aikido works effectively against boxers if it´s executed as taught by the grand masters. All in all I like the videos of Aikidoflow. But this one is to be deleted, in my opinion.
@hindsman
6 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I was a bit disappointed too! It seems everyone is getting on the "proving" bandwagon. I don't believe Aikido was developed to be used in a fight with a trained/sober fighter. Why not do a video were Aikido is used against the average/drunk idiot in a truly real life situation?? It is much more likely that the average person will be confronted by an off balanced, angry drunk than a trained fighter!!
@iatsd
6 жыл бұрын
David Hinds But then the MMA weenies won't be able to whine about how Aikido is completely ineffective and never going to work under any circumstances whatever yadda yadda yadda.
@hindsman
6 жыл бұрын
iatsd , oh too true 😁
@-westman3619
6 жыл бұрын
I can just imagine a dialogue between O'Sensei and Gozo Shioda: "Master, my techniques was ineffective." "That's because you were attacked by a sober man. Aikido was designed to fight drunks." "What??? Why??? What if-" "No 'What ifs', now as punishment for questioning my methods... do 300 mai ukemi." *O'Sensei snickers and walks off as Shioda begins rolling*
@ThePNWRiderWA
6 жыл бұрын
Aikido by itself does not work really well. What I took from it after 3 years was some of the footwork and the locks. The movements are too large to be effective and depend too much on grabbing . Basic single / double leg takedowns , hip throws are more effective than most of the ones aikido has for myself as I can pull them off under stress.
@WickedJester77
5 жыл бұрын
Im not an advocate of Aikido or anything. Not been trained it that particular discipline. But that whole bit at the beginning where the Aikido user blocks the right hand and stands still to get punched in the face is just silly. No competent martial artist of ANY discipline is going to just stop at that point. No Aikido student has ever been taught that.
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